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This is the Joy At Work podcast, and I'm Lucia Knight.
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Here's this week's question from a listener.
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I'm 62.
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Is that too old to change career?
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And is it too old to work with you?
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Ah, this question takes me straight back to a client
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conversation about four or five years ago.
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Let's call him Cathal.
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He was one of my Speedy Sherpa clients, and he had just turned 55, and as big
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birthdays do, it got him reflecting.
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Looking ahead in a way that are busy lives normally don't allow.
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Cathal asked me if I knew anyone in their sixties who was still employed
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full-time and actually enjoying it.
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I hesitated because in that moment I couldn't think of a single person, not
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one, not someone who was still employed and genuinely loving their work.
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And it was a wake up call for me.
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Had I become so focused on the 50-year-old corporate toast trend
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that I'd called out in 2017, that I'd quietly written off the idea of thriving
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in full-time employment after 60?
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I knew plenty of self-employed 60 somethings doing brilliant work.
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But working for someone else full-time, loving it?
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That was different.
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So I told Cathal the truth, I don't know anyone yet, and I asked him to
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stay focused on our work while I quietly kicked off a new research mission.
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I went looking for what I started to call the unicorns.
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People in their sixties who were still employed, still curious, still
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thriving, and after weeks of awkward silences, countless conversations,
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tapping networks and whispering, Hey, I'm hunting for unicorns, to anyone
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who'd listen, eventually they appeared.
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There was Chris 66 thriving inside one of the world's biggest companies.
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Kathy, still growing and leading in pharma and public roles.
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Peter, who moved continents at 65 to start a brand new
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career in a brand new industry.
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Graham, John, Philippa, Neil, Lydia, every single one of them defied that
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tired idea of corporate toast at 50.
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Now, were they?
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Unicorns.
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Maybe not, but they were rare.
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Rare enough that I still believe the corporate toast trend is real for way too
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many people, in way too many companies.
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But let's come back to the question, is 62 too late to change career
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or redesign your work life?
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No, it's not even late.
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Our generation and the ones behind us aren't just working longer.
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We're wanting to work longer, but we have to start being smart about it.
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Our strategy has to look different.
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What I discovered in my research is that those thriving in full-time
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work in their sixties and seventies.
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Don't follow the old rules.
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They've rewritten them.
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They're international career designers.
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They make deliberate choices.
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They play a different game and they value different things.
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I wrote a meaty article about this.
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It's not a light read, but worth it.
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I'll pop it in the show notes.
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It's the results of 11 deeply personal interviews, and here are just a few
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patterns that emerged across industries, disciplines, personalities and roles.
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They say yes more than they say No.
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They're not just learning new skills.
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They're learning about themselves constantly.
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They don't see their careers as ladders.
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They see them as ecosystems.
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They don't chase titles.
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They chase meaning and satisfaction.
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They choose to care deeply about the problems they work on.
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They asked great questions across generations, disciplines,
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roles, and companies.
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They make their experience useful by staying vital,
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curious, and obviously valuable.
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And maybe most importantly, they build relationships with deep
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trust, curiosity and respect.
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And a wild amount of generosity.
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Not transactional, networking, not what can you do for me connections.
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These are people who check in with no agenda, who remember that day you
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did that brilliant thing, and the day you messed up and ask them for help.
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They keep relationships warm.
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For decades, while also juggling deadlines and life like the rest of us.
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Honestly, I learned so much from them.
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So to our listener and to anyone wondering if 62 is too old to change
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careers or design work differently, we think career joy in our sixties
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is rare because we don't see it in this no news is good news world, but
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maybe we're not looking hard enough.
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If we want to be paid well to do meaningful work for as long as we
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choose, not as long as we're allowed, don't shrink dreams to fit age.
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Redesign our work lives to include those dreams because at
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62, you don't need permission.
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You need a plan.
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And I happen to know just the woman who can help you design it.