Best-selling author, keynote speaker, and master coach Christine Hassler drills down on combatting the burden of expectation, adopting a miracle mindset, releasing emotion instead of recycling it, and throwing healthy adult temper tantrums, and explains the distinction between form vs. essence, sympathy vs. empathy, and why strength is overrated.
Christine Hassler is a life coach with a counseling
Host:emphasis known for catalyzing radical self reflection, but
Host:also while offering practical direction, she has really
Host:created this roadmap for life and for people of all ages,
Host:which is kind of about self discovery, self acceptance, self
Host:forgiveness and clarity. And she is a cum laude graduate of
Host:Northwestern University, and she also has her master's degree in
Host:spiritual psychology from the University of Santa Monica. Her
Host:book is called Expectation Hangover, Overcoming
Host:Disappointment in Work, Love and Life, and it's really the
Host:guidebook for how to treat disappointment on the emotional,
Host:mental, behavioral and spiritual levels. And so Christine, it's
Host:great to meet you. Thank you for being on the show.
Christine Hassler:Oh, I'm equally as excited. Thanks for
Christine Hassler:having me.
Host:So can you clarify, like, what exactly is an expectation
Host:hangover, and how did you kind of come up with that term?
Christine Hassler:Yeah. We may love the phrase, but we don't
Christine Hassler:like having them. I came up with it after having so many of my
Christine Hassler:own. And basically it's when it's disappointment, but how I
Christine Hassler:break it down, it's when one of three things happen, either the
Christine Hassler:desired outcome or plan or result that you work so hard for
Christine Hassler:doesn't happen. Things don't turn out the way you planned. Or
Christine Hassler:you get the goal, you have the result, but you don't have the
Christine Hassler:feelings you thought you would have from it, like you get this
Christine Hassler:great job, and then you're like, Wait, where's the pot of gold at
Christine Hassler:the end of the rainbow? Where's the happiness? Or life just
Christine Hassler:totally throws you an unexpected curve ball. You lose a job, you
Christine Hassler:get sick, someone dies. You know those kind of unexpected curve
Christine Hassler:balls. So what I noticed about expectation hangovers is that
Christine Hassler:they are similar to hangover symptoms from alcohol, in the
Christine Hassler:sense that your head is hurting, maybe not physically, but all
Christine Hassler:the thoughts and thinking and obsessing that happens when we
Christine Hassler:have an expectation hangover, we just get really in our head. We
Christine Hassler:lack motivation. There's a sense of regret. We're spinning and
Christine Hassler:confusion. It's just a feeling we want to get over. And people
Christine Hassler:really just want to get out of disappointment, and they'll do
Christine Hassler:anything to basically not feel it. And what I notice is that
Christine Hassler:most people use coping mechanisms that involve
Christine Hassler:suppression and numbing, anything from drugs and alcohol
Christine Hassler:to overworking really super being busy looking for the next
Christine Hassler:best thing. Even in kind of the personal growth community,
Christine Hassler:there's something called a spiritual bypass, where people
Christine Hassler:just try to jump to the silver lining or meditate their way out
Christine Hassler:of it, and don't really feel what's happening. And I'm really
Christine Hassler:passionate about helping people leverage disappointment, because
Christine Hassler:when we talk about disappointment and change, those
Christine Hassler:things are the catalysts that create the most personal growth
Christine Hassler:inside of us. You know, most people have their biggest leaps
Christine Hassler:when it comes to growth when something kind of surprising or
Christine Hassler:bad happens, that's usually what motivates us to do the work that
Christine Hassler:really changes our life. And I've noticed that the most
Christine Hassler:suffering people have is when their expectations don't meet
Christine Hassler:their reality. But there's a real healing opportunity inside
Christine Hassler:of that.
Host:Do you tend to find that the disappointments that we
Host:have, are they based on expectations that usually come
Host:from the outside, that people put on us? Or are you talking
Host:more about expectations that we have, that we created for
Host:ourselves and then things not living up to them?
Christine Hassler:It's absolutely both. You know, we
Christine Hassler:have the double whammy of expectations, all the societal
Christine Hassler:things and checklists that we buy into in terms of our belief
Christine Hassler:system, and then this incredible pressure we put on ourselves. I
Christine Hassler:noticed that people, especially really intelligent, successful
Christine Hassler:people, they motivate themselves by being hard on themselves and
Christine Hassler:placing massive expectations. And the tricky, kind of sneaky
Christine Hassler:thing about that is, it works, you know, like I used to
Christine Hassler:motivate myself by being very hard on myself, and I kind of
Christine Hassler:didn't even realize it, you know. And I'm not talking about
Christine Hassler:being hard on yourself, like you're a loser, you suck, like
Christine Hassler:it's not doesn't have to be that severe, subtle, like you could
Christine Hassler:have done that better, or your friends more successful. Or, why
Christine Hassler:did you say that? You know, just these subtle things that are
Christine Hassler:this critical voice inside of us, and it's effective. You
Christine Hassler:know, we get things done that way, but we have these massive
Christine Hassler:expectations and standards that A, we may not live up to, and B,
Christine Hassler:once we do live up to them, then we consistently keep raising the
Christine Hassler:bar. And so when is enough enough? Like, when are we there?
Christine Hassler:When do we finally accept ourselves as enough? And that's
Christine Hassler:the problem we run into when we live a life driven by
Christine Hassler:expectations versus values and vision and really accepting and
Christine Hassler:acknowledge our acknowledging ourselves for who we are and the
Christine Hassler:unique impact we're here to make.
Host:How do you balance that? Is there a middle ground that is
Host:kind of what we're seeking? Or is it something different than
Host:that?
Christine Hassler:Yes, so both complacency and overdoing come
Christine Hassler:from a place of sort of lack of self love and insecurity and
Christine Hassler:trying to compensate for something and not feeling enough
Christine Hassler:in some way. You know, we put these high driving standards on
Christine Hassler:ourselves because, on some level, we don't feel like we are
Christine Hassler:enough and we have something to prove. And on the opposite end
Christine Hassler:of the coin, like when we are get complacent and like we stop
Christine Hassler:doing. Then again, that's coming from a feeling of like not not
Christine Hassler:feeling enough or worthy enough of pursuing our own dreams. So
Christine Hassler:at the root of this, really, is our relationship with ourselves
Christine Hassler:and how we perceive the world, and how we perceive ourselves in
Christine Hassler:that world. So what it comes down to, in terms of that middle
Christine Hassler:point, is really investigating, you know, how do we define
Christine Hassler:success like, what's our definition of success? Is it
Christine Hassler:externally based, or do we have a definition that's more
Christine Hassler:intrinsic? And the biggest thing from expectation hangovers that
Christine Hassler:I've learned is that it reorientates people, myself
Christine Hassler:included, from an outside in perspective to an inside out
Christine Hassler:perspective. We start to realize that coming from our own values,
Christine Hassler:our own, what I call superpowers rather than expectations, is not
Christine Hassler:only more balanced way to live, but it just feels a whole heck
Christine Hassler:of a lot better. So it's more of a reorientation and a pivot in
Christine Hassler:terms of how we perceive our life and how we take action than
Christine Hassler:it is trying to balance between the two I love that, you know,
Christine Hassler:we're so destination, obsessed in our world and getting there,
Christine Hassler:and it's like, actually, what we truly, you know, enjoy the most,
Christine Hassler:if we allow ourselves and stop putting so much pressure on
Christine Hassler:ourselves, is the process and what we learn about ourselves
Christine Hassler:and the qualities that come out of us while, while we do things
Christine Hassler:and and, you know, the feel, because we think We're after
Christine Hassler:form, but what we're really after is essence. We're chasing
Christine Hassler:feeling more than we are outcome. But because we kind of
Christine Hassler:don't know that, and because our society, or even our educational
Christine Hassler:system, is so goal based, we lose connection with that. How
Christine Hassler:do you want to feel? Let's not worry about the form. You know,
Christine Hassler:the universe, God, whatever your spiritual belief system. It
Christine Hassler:will, it will take care of that. But if you really focus on the
Christine Hassler:feeling of what you want to experience in life, and get an
Christine Hassler:energetic alignment with that feeling, then the form takes
Christine Hassler:care of itself. I mean, it's people all ask me all the time,
Christine Hassler:like, how I've built my career, and it's truly been, you know,
Christine Hassler:the work I've done on myself and being really clear about my
Christine Hassler:values and what I want to feel, and looking at the things that
Christine Hassler:have gotten in my way, limiting beliefs that don't work ways
Christine Hassler:I've tried to compensate. You know, in the book, I talk a lot
Christine Hassler:about compensatory strategies, and my biggest one was, as I
Christine Hassler:mentioned, overachieving. And the reason why that developed is
Christine Hassler:because I was teased and bullied a lot as a kid. I had this this
Christine Hassler:belief that I was unlikable in some way, something was wrong
Christine Hassler:with me. So my life was about proving myself, and that was
Christine Hassler:great. You know, as a straight A student, went to great college,
Christine Hassler:moved out to Hollywood, because if you're insecure, you move out
Christine Hassler:to Hollywood and have this really successful career at a
Christine Hassler:young age, was making all this money. And like, it was like,
Christine Hassler:when does a happy feeling come in? When does a confident
Christine Hassler:feeling come in. And I had a in a year, I had a lot of very
Christine Hassler:severe things happen, where I ended up on my knees, kind of
Christine Hassler:just going, like, what, what do I do? And had what I call a
Christine Hassler:spiritual awakening that wasn't like super it wasn't like this,
Christine Hassler:like angels coming down, or anything like that. It was just
Christine Hassler:this internal realization of, wow, like all the things I'm
Christine Hassler:looking for on the outside, could they possibly be inside of
Christine Hassler:me? That was when I, you know, had the pivot. So I think it's
Christine Hassler:just like we get So sort of hypnotized by the way we've been
Christine Hassler:conditioned. And to me, the process of awakening is really
Christine Hassler:about looking at our programming. Because the great
Christine Hassler:thing about our brain is it's totally malleable, and we have
Christine Hassler:the potential to change it, and to do that, we have to change
Christine Hassler:our thoughts, and we have to change our perception. And I
Christine Hassler:love one of the definitions of a miracle. It's a change in
Christine Hassler:perception. So even if you're in an expectation hangover right
Christine Hassler:now, are you willing to bring a miracle mind to it by just
Christine Hassler:changing how you look at it?
Host:Alright, so I want to go back to overcoming
Host:disappointment for a second. How do we overcome those
Host:disappointments when they do happen?
Christine Hassler:Yeah, absolutely, you're going to be
Christine Hassler:disappointed, because you are human. We all are human. And the
Christine Hassler:thing about the human experience is we learn through contrast.
Christine Hassler:That is totally how we learn. And I think that people try to
Christine Hassler:avoid, sort of the dark, the disappointment. And I'm all
Christine Hassler:about leveraging it and milking it. I remember when I was going
Christine Hassler:through my divorce, one of my coaches said to me, Christine,
Christine Hassler:milk this for all it's worth. Don't just try to get over it,
Christine Hassler:like, really go in because there's there's gold here. And
Christine Hassler:that was that was really true. And with so much of the work in
Christine Hassler:terms of what became expectation hangover, because it wasn't just
Christine Hassler:about healing from the disappointment of the divorce,
Christine Hassler:it was everything that that triggered inside of me, and that
Christine Hassler:was one of the biggest growth opportunities of my life. And so
Christine Hassler:the first thing to answer your question is to move into
Christine Hassler:acceptance of it, rather than resisting it, rather than
Christine Hassler:judging it, rather than trying to control it, rather than
Christine Hassler:trying to change it, accept what is I love a quote from Byron
Christine Hassler:Katie, I might be paraphrasing a bit. But it goes basically
Christine Hassler:something like, when you argue with reality, you only lose 100%
Christine Hassler:of the time. So acceptance is, is not about, Oh, I love it, and
Christine Hassler:I have to, you know, have this positive attitude about it. I'm
Christine Hassler:not about that, but just going into, all right, this isn't
Christine Hassler:ideal, but I'm going to stop fighting. I'm going to accept
Christine Hassler:it. And then after acceptance, you move into really letting
Christine Hassler:yourself heal and feel on the emotional level. And I'm sort of
Christine Hassler:kind of taking you on a little tour of the treatment plan in
Christine Hassler:the book, because this is the order that I go in. And what
Christine Hassler:I've realized in my own life and working with 1000s of people at
Christine Hassler:this point, is people don't like to feel like to feel good. We
Christine Hassler:like to avoid the feelings of shame, of anger, of hurt, and
Christine Hassler:it's important to feel that emotion is energy in motion. So
Christine Hassler:when we suppress emotion, it's like trying to keep a beach ball
Christine Hassler:underwater. You know, you can keep it down for a while, but
Christine Hassler:eventually it pops up. And it might pop up in the forms of
Christine Hassler:irritability or a health concern or like not being able to access
Christine Hassler:your intuition, or whatever it may be like that suppressed
Christine Hassler:emotion is not good for us, mentally or physically. And so,
Christine Hassler:you know, I teach in the book How to release emotion rather
Christine Hassler:than recycle it, because most of us don't learn know how to
Christine Hassler:process our feelings. We tend to judge it, analyze it, want them
Christine Hassler:to go away. And there's ways to release emotion where you find a
Christine Hassler:place inside of you that's having the emotion, and you also
Christine Hassler:find a place where you have compassion and you just allow
Christine Hassler:yourself to feel without any judgment. There's actually a
Christine Hassler:process in the book called a temper tantrum technique, where
Christine Hassler:I'm sure you've seen a child have a temper tantrum. And the
Christine Hassler:thing is, children know how to feel, so if a kid gets upset,
Christine Hassler:like you'll see they get upset, they start to cry, then they may
Christine Hassler:be yelling and screaming, kicking, and then they kind of
Christine Hassler:start to whimper, and they kind of go into that, you know, and
Christine Hassler:then they start to slow down, and then they may rock a little
Christine Hassler:bit, and they start to soothe themselves, and then they want
Christine Hassler:ice cream, and then they're fine. They know how to ride the
Christine Hassler:wave of emotions. And as young people and our parents, you
Christine Hassler:know, did the best they could, but our emotions were kind of
Christine Hassler:interrupted. We were told, shake it off, big boys, don't cry. Or
Christine Hassler:we were like, soothes with food or something like that. And
Christine Hassler:then, you know, later in life, we try to soothe our emotions by
Christine Hassler:eating. So we found these kind of ways to suppress and as
Christine Hassler:adults, we have to look at all, right, how do I really release
Christine Hassler:my emotion? And so, you know, I basically teach you how to have
Christine Hassler:an adult version of a temper tantrum, so that you get the
Christine Hassler:emotion up and out. And there's also other techniques, writing
Christine Hassler:techniques and things like that, but the key is let yourself feel
Christine Hassler:without judgment. And this isn't about identifying with your
Christine Hassler:feelings. This isn't about sitting around and being a
Christine Hassler:victim, victim. Thinking gets us nowhere when we're like, why did
Christine Hassler:this happen to me and my life is so hard? It's not about feeling
Christine Hassler:sorry for ourselves. Sympathy and empathy are very different.
Christine Hassler:Sympathy has pity on it. Empathy and compassion has love and
Christine Hassler:forgiveness and understanding on it. So compassion, if we look at
Christine Hassler:the word, I'm well into the meanings of words. So passion
Christine Hassler:actually means suffering, and CO means with so it's really being
Christine Hassler:with suffering. It's the difference. And we can do this
Christine Hassler:with other people too. It's like how we, you know, in my work
Christine Hassler:with people, when I work with them on the emotional level, if
Christine Hassler:they're experiencing emotion, I don't console them, I don't try
Christine Hassler:to fix them, I don't go in and offer them advice. I just hold
Christine Hassler:this loving, compassionate space for them to feel with no
Christine Hassler:judgment. And learning how to do that for ourselves is key to
Christine Hassler:really overcoming disappointment, because we've
Christine Hassler:got to move through the feeling part.
Host:What are some of the common, like, emotional mistakes
Host:that you see people making over and over again?
Christine Hassler:Yeah, so one I briefly mentioned, which is
Christine Hassler:the victim being a victim. This happened to me. The world
Christine Hassler:happens to me. Like, I'm not going to get through that like
Christine Hassler:and identifying with it. And it even can be subtle, but it's
Christine Hassler:sort of like allowing the emotional level to get to that
Christine Hassler:place of just kind of feeling sorry for yourself and losing
Christine Hassler:hope and losing faith, because that's that's really paralyzing.
Christine Hassler:And the other one, in terms of the other extreme too, is being
Christine Hassler:strong, like I'm not going to feel I'm fine, like I'm just
Christine Hassler:going to push my way through that. And what that does is it
Christine Hassler:perpetuates what we talked about a little bit earlier in terms of
Christine Hassler:that inner critic, like, when we don't allow ourselves to feel
Christine Hassler:we're denying ourselves the truth of our experience, and
Christine Hassler:again, like, in some ways, that's rewarded. Like, how many
Christine Hassler:times have we heard, Oh, you're so strong and being strong is
Christine Hassler:overrated? You know, I'm a big fan of Renee Brown's work on
Christine Hassler:vulnerability. You know, vulnerability is not weakness.
Christine Hassler:It's authenticity. It's being real. It's like, this is really
Christine Hassler:what's happening to me, and this is what you know, I'm willing to
Christine Hassler:learn from it. So that doesn't work. And then distractions,
Christine Hassler:like distracting ourselves from it, and in the ways I mentioned
Christine Hassler:earlier, in terms of I'm going to overwork or I'm going to
Christine Hassler:watch too much TV, I'm just going to numb it out. I'm going
Christine Hassler:to drink more eat or whatever it may be. And then another thing
Christine Hassler:is to the kind of like spiritual bypass and pep talk thing, you
Christine Hassler:know, trying to get to whatever I'm learning and I'm growing,
Christine Hassler:and it's all fine. And it's sort of like being strong with sort
Christine Hassler:of like this positive attitude. And again, that gets rewarded as
Christine Hassler:well. And the key to all this is just not allowing ourselves the
Christine Hassler:authenticity of our. Experience and the truth to feel and know.
Christine Hassler:When I do retreats, can I take people to beautiful destinations
Christine Hassler:and help them overcome their disappointment? Because I'm
Christine Hassler:like, Well, if I can take them to like Costa Rica, maybe
Christine Hassler:they'll be willing to deal with some things in a beautiful
Christine Hassler:environment. And the biggest thing I see is just people you
Christine Hassler:know, are scared. They're just scared to feel. And if we don't
Christine Hassler:feel and the emotional levels is the first part of the treatment
Christine Hassler:plan. Next we have mental, behavioral and spiritually. But
Christine Hassler:you know, the emotional one is where I see the most resistance.
Christine Hassler:And here's the thing, if we don't feel the anger, the shame,
Christine Hassler:the guilt, whatever it is, we don't get to the other side of
Christine Hassler:that. We don't feel all the juicy stuff. We don't feel the
Christine Hassler:love, the joy, the creativity, the connection, you know,
Christine Hassler:especially for women, underneath our anger is our fire and our
Christine Hassler:passion and our zest. So many women suppress anger and they
Christine Hassler:end up irritable and they end up kind of emasculating men and
Christine Hassler:they end up just snippy, and that's not like who we are as
Christine Hassler:women. You know, we're warm and compassionate and loving and
Christine Hassler:creative, but when we suppress this anger, because we've been
Christine Hassler:told that we aren't allowed to be angry, and we don't really
Christine Hassler:have healthy outlets for anger. We're missing out on tapping
Christine Hassler:into our passion and our fire, and it's so important for us to
Christine Hassler:tap into that.
Host:Wow. Expectation Hangover is the title of the book,
Host:Christine. Where do you want people to go to learn about you?
Christine Hassler:Well, you can go to ChristineHassler.com and
Christine Hassler:you can get the book on Amazon, or lots of ways to connect. I
Christine Hassler:love connecting with people, so please reach out.
Host:Awesome. Well, this was super insightful. Thank you for
Host:making some time here, and we wish you the best.
Christine Hassler:Oh, I thank you so much.