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October 21, 2024 - Matthew 17 and Mark 9
21st October 2024 • Daily Bible Podcast • Compass Bible Church North Texas
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00:00 Introduction and Excitement for Logos Bible Software

00:29 Debate on Attending the Live Stream

01:40 Anticipation and Disenchantment in Modern Society

04:25 The Transfiguration in Matthew 17

05:01 Reconciling the Timeline Discrepancy

06:53 Elijah's Return and John the Baptist

09:31 Healing the Demon-Possessed Boy

10:56 Faith and the Power of God

12:14 Understanding John 14:7-14

12:24 Stage Diving Mishap

12:44 Jesus Predicts the Cross Again

13:08 The Temple Tax Incident

14:18 Paying Taxes and Kingdom Principles

14:46 The Transfiguration of Jesus

15:50 Healing a Boy with an Unclean Spirit

17:08 The Power of Prayer

21:29 True Greatness in the Kingdom

23:28 Concluding Prayer and Reflections

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to another episode

of the daily Bible podcast.

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Happy logos, Bible software release day.

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This has like 34,000 people

signed up to watch this.

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I can't wait.

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I will be one of them.

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So, so I mean at the

eight o'clock our time.

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So I'm going to see if I can

fit it in my morning schedule.

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I typically guard my mornings pretty

fastidiously, but I would, I'd like

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to know what they're doing here.

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And I know, I know.

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Briefly, but I'm excited.

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I can't wait.

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I'm all, I'm all for the subscription.

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I am all in.

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Here's take my money now.

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Just give me the software.

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So I registered for this thing, but

I don't think I'm going to be there.

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Why not.

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Uh, because it's a Monday.

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What's more important than this.

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I usually help my kids get out to

school, go for a walk with my wife.

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Did it live stream?

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As you're doing those things.

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Yeah.

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I'd rather spend time with my wife.

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You're doing it.

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You guys watch it together.

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It's super romantic.

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Just not interested in Xi.

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You know what she might.

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And become that way.

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So thank you for it.

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I don't think so.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah.

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So I'll just catch the Clifton.

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It's later.

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I'll get the TLDR version.

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Well, it's probably, it's probably

nothing new that we haven't heard already

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anyway, because we were part of this.

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Subscription plan already on the back end.

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So yeah.

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We've already seen some of the new stuff.

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Weird flex.

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Right.

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You were pat, they expect that we're

pastors, this is our wheelhouse.

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So I'm pumped.

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I can't wait to see, I

want the new resources.

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I'm excited about all

that they have to offer.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, me too.

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There we go.

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You don't sound excited.

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I am.

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I mean, I am, but like, Yeah, I am.

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I'm excited.

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You know why?

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Because you've been dating log us and

you've been kind according accordance.

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No.

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The whole time I've known.

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I don't think it's going

to change what I'm doing.

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It's changed.

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I'm the Lagasse AI.

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Those helps have been super.

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I love them, but we have it.

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I know, but I'm, I'm excited about what.

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In the future.

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So there's a, there's a bigger problem in.

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It's a problem that,

that extends beyond this.

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Okay.

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Seems to be this.

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Anticipation where man, you, you got

the whole kitten caboodle at once.

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And so it was like, I

can't wait for this day.

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And once this day comes.

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We get this thing.

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The most tangible example

I can think of is music.

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Okay.

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So growing up.

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Yeah, it was a band.

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Went into the studio, recorded

their album, mix their album, put

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together the playlist, do that.

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Yeah.

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But then when, when you heard that

this new album was coming out, that

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you had to wait, like occasionally

the radio would get a single that

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was released from that album.

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Right.

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But aside from that, man, you were

waiting for that thing the whole time.

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I feel like today it's like the bands

are like, here's 12 weeks of each song.

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That's going to be on the album

and we're going to release

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them one at a time for you.

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And then by the time the album comes

out, it's like, eh, We already know all

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this stuff because you've been releasing

them one at a time, but it's not as good

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as when you get the whole thing at once

and you get to take it all in together.

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And we're doing that with tech now, too.

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Yeah.

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Uh, and that is piecemeal you're right.

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But I think on the positive side, that

means you're going to get a lot more.

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Nu, uh, more regularly as

opposed to having to wait.

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Now your drip fed the information.

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And I like that.

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I think your drip, that even the updates

now, so you can get regular updates

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instead of having to waiting a two year

for log us, they were on a two year cycle.

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And so now you're going to get updates as.

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As often as they can produce them.

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True.

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But it's, it's just less exciting.

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It's less impactful.

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Apple's running into this, right.

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Because they released the iPhone

16 and everybody's like, eh, Yeah.

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Whereas if you have too much, if you have

like an iPhone 12 and you go to the iPhone

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16, you're like, whoa, this is a massive

upgrade because that's a large feature set

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and you can design and everything else.

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But any more it's it's

such small refinements.

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That it's like.

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Okay.

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Like there's, there's nothing.

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I just feel like there's not

that exciting reveal anymore.

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You're like, no way.

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That's incredible.

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I can't wait to get my hands on that.

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It's like, okay.

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I kind of knew about all this stuff.

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I've heard all of these songs.

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Now I can have them all in one place,

but now that we have streaming music

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and stuff, I mean, that doesn't

even matter that much anymore.

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Yeah.

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It's just.

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Uh, some of the excitement

there's, there's not much,

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we look forward to anymore.

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We're in a society that has kind of

taken away the anticipation well,

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that, that disenchantment that we all

feel, I think is it's more obvious now

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because of what you just described.

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But I think we've all felt that.

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Um, I think that's part

of the human condition.

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We get excited about certain things.

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Looking forward to the

milestones of this or that thing.

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And then we realized, oh man, it wasn't

all that exciting after all right.

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It didn't live up to the hype that

I thought of in my heart and mind.

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And I think that's just

part of us being human.

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Everything that we enjoy in this life

is always going to have a limited impact

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and probably far more limited than we

experienced, because we're not made for

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this life we're made for the next life.

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And, uh, when we see glory,

Um, even small glimpses of it.

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Then, you know, the smallest taste or hint

of it, we get pumped and we get excited.

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Cause if all this is going to really

change things for us, uh, but ultimately

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the only thing that's going to change,

this is the glory of God, which is what

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we get into here in Matthew chapter 17.

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That's true.

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Why don't we turn there right now?

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Let's do it.

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Matthew 17 opens up with the

transfiguration, speaking

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to the glory of God.

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And, uh, this one's interesting

because Matthew says after

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six days, Jesus took with him.

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Peter James and John, his brother, and

led them up a high mountain by themselves.

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Matthew 17 one.

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Mark.

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Is going to agree with that number.

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But Luke, as we've already seen

said it was after eight days.

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And in fact, I bring that up

because pastor rod, you, you pointed

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that out and Luke Scouts, well,

Hey, this is eight days later.

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Pay attention to the time.

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Matthew says six days later.

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So how do we reconcile six

days versus eight days?

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I don't know.

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I haven't answered it.

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That.

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I did not make, I did not clock that.

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So I have, I do not have a quick answer.

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I would have to think about

that and look at some of the

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commentaries I'm missing, you know?

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One of the one response that I saw

that I was like, okay, maybe they

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pointed out number one, Matthew

typically doesn't give time markers.

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And so when he does it's, it's notable

that he, he's not often giving.

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Specific time markers in his gospel.

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Um, and so here he gives six days.

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And so that's a time marker

that, that stands out.

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Somebody said this, they said Luke could

have used eight, possibly, including

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Peter the day of Peter's confession.

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Prior to that, that, uh, that makes sense.

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And the day of the transfiguration itself.

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And so if you take both of

those days, I'm in the front.

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One of the one on the

back, you get eight days.

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It's possible.

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This is.

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It's not gospel.

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Then then there, and most people,

most people would agree that

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Matthew and Luke are taking.

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Mark as her source NQ whatever Q is.

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So whatever, whatever Luke

is utilizing for his, his

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counting of time, clearly there.

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Yeah, you can't say six.

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And eight are the same.

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So you'd have to say, okay, Luke's

using a different counting method than

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what these other two guys are using.

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That that's, that's gotta be the answer.

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The question is, in what ways,

accounting, what is he counting

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versus what is he not counting?

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Yeah.

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Either way it doesn't change the account.

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Jesus goes up on the mountain.

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He's transfigured.

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The account.

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Yeah.

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I didn't even catch that.

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Let's see.

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Jesus goes up on the mountain.

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He's transfigured before them,

um, is close, shot white.

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They hear the voice

Elijah and Moses show up.

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They're talking together.

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Peter says, Hey, let's do this.

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Let's set up tents here.

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We need to be here.

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This is good for us to be here.

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Um, and, and Jesus then says, no, this

is not a, this is not what we're doing.

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This is not the time.

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Um, and they, they go back down

the mountain and Jesus tells them

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to tell no one, the vision until

the son of man is ration, the dead.

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Uh, and then there's this

interesting question.

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The disciples say, why then do

some people say Elijah must come.

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So when Elijah is there on the mountain,

the disciples are thinking here's Elijah.

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This is another sign

that he's the Messiah.

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But if this is only temporary and

it's not going to be a public display,

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the disciples are asking Jesus.

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Then on the way down going, Hey.

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What about L w Elijah was just there.

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Don't the people say

Elijah has to come first.

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And Jesus says, well, Elijah has come in.

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Elijah came in the form of John,

the Baptist that John the Baptist

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was the fulfillment of that

prophecy about the coming of Elijah.

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Now.

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This is interesting because John

himself said it, he's not Elijah.

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John was asked in John

1 21, are you Elijah?

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And he said, no.

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So we have Jesus saying that John was

Elijah John saying he wasn't Elijah.

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And that's a hard thing

for us to reconcile.

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My take on it.

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PR I'm curious to get your thoughts.

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I think that John's response

was more about his humility.

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Then it was about.

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Disagreeing with Jesus.

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I think John was, was making sure that

he wasn't stepping into any role that

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wasn't his to step into other than being

the voice of one calling out in the

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wilderness, prepare the way for the Lord.

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Versus Jesus is saying no,

he was fulfilling Elijah.

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I don't think John had the

wherewithal to understand that he

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was necessarily fulfilling Elijah.

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So I don't think this is a contradiction

where John is saying something that

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he's disagreeing with Jesus about.

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I think Jesus is giving a fuller

picture of John's ministry than

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John himself even knew at the time.

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Totally.

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And then at minimum here,

what we can say here.

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Is that either John is not fully

aware of the role that he's playing.

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Now or he's answering a question

that we might be misunderstanding

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it, they could be asking are,

are, are, are, are you Elijah?

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Reincarnates, that's a possibility.

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I don't know that we can say with

certainty, it's exclusively, not the case.

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So.

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He's maybe answering a

question that we're not asking.

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And so when he says no, and Jesus says,

yes, it's possible that they're both

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talking about two different things.

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John is clearly the alleged cause

Jesus says he is, but when he's

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answering the Pharisees and.

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And are you, are you Elijah?

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Are you the one who has to come?

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Um, they may be thinking in

terms of something different.

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So I would have to say, yes, Jesus is.

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Uh, Jesus is clear.

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He is that.

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And John is that.

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Um, in fact, I would even suggest that

John is self-conscious about this.

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Cause he was living a luscious life.

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Yeah.

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It was doing what Elijah did and

anyone who knew the guys going

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like, dude, this dude is such

an Elijah kind of guy, you know?

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So when, when the guys are asking

him, there must be some old.

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Uh, there's an alternative content,

but there's, there's more context there

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than, than what you and I are seeing.

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Now, at least on the surface of

the text, we would have to say

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John's answering a different

question that Jesus is answering.

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Yeah.

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And in case you're wondering, where does

all this talk of Elijah coming back,

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come from Malakai four or five behold.

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I will send you a lodger, the

prophet before the great and

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awesome day of the Lord comes.

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So that's where all this context comes

from and this discussion of Elijah.

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We'll move on from

there down the mountain.

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And here comes the demon possessed boy,

and we've seen this already, but this

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demon possessed child that, uh, that

nobody was able to heal, but Jesus,

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that they needed Jesus to step in here.

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It's interesting.

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Jesus condemns this generation

in Matthew 17, 17, not only as

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unbelieving, but also as twisted.

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Which is a word that means perverse.

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Um, this is most likely a reference

to Deuteronomy 32, 5 and 32 20.

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Uh, 32 5.

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He says that they are a crooked and

twisted generation and then 30 to 20.

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He says I'm going to hunt my face from

them, for their, a perverse generation.

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And so here, he's reaching back to that

and applying it to the present day.

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And so he's frustrated not only with the

faithlessness of the disciples who are

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unable to cast out the demon themselves.

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But also just with the general

perverseness of the world and the

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faithlessness of the world and the

immorality around him at the time.

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Um, I don't think this is a twisted road.

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I don't think that refers specifically

to the disciples, but more to

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the culture and world at large.

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So he's talking to the father then.

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Do you think that he's included

in the saying, look, I.

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Um, I'm seeking for a healing and

I, your disciples going to do it.

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Is he talking to him?

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Well, it says he answered,

but I think he's.

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I think it's a broad, I think

it's an indictment against all

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within earshot, so to speak.

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I think it's, this is, this is the

situation which he finds himself in.

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Yeah, I, I would, I would

have to agree with it.

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I don't think he's talking

to the disciples because.

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They have faith.

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Um, they, they, they, they

have very small faith.

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It seems.

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Uh, even though he does say here

at the, at the, at the end of that

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paragraph, I truly, I say to you, if

you have faith, like the grain of a

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mustard seed, you will be able to say

to this, not move and it will be done.

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So it's interesting.

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Now it seems like an out of place,

like where is this coming from?

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Kind of response.

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Uh, yeah, I, I agree.

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It seems like the best way to apply

this as he's talking to the totality

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of people saying what's going on.

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Um, and part of this we learned also

from, uh, from the mark in the, the,

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the mark in parallel is that there's

prayer involved in our per that prayer.

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That's an un-involved.

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That also raises a couple of questions

about mine, but we can get there with me.

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I looked at that chapter.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Yeah.

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That verse 20 is interesting.

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Um, That's one of those.

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How do we avoid the name it and claim it

response here, because it seems like if

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you have faith in, and this is something

that the prosperity preachers will take

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in and rip out of context, because when

the miracle doesn't happen or when you

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don't get the promotion that you're after.

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The indictment from the prosperity

appreciators you didn't have enough faith.

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You need more faith.

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If you have enough faith via faith,

like a mustard seed, you're going to

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be able to do all these great things.

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Right.

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It's not that it's, it's this

it's faith grounded in God.

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Has it out at its disposal.

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The power of God, if it's

after the will of God.

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And that's, that's what he's saying here.

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Look, we, we can see God do great things.

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If our faith is, is in the power of God

in, in accordance with the will of God.

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We're going to talk

about that a little bit.

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What we did, I guess on Sunday.

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Um, in the text that we, uh,

we covered this Sunday, we did

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tell us about the sermon again.

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Yeah, it was great.

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It was awesome.

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It was that, uh, Uh, John 14

versus seven or eight through 14.

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And he talks about Jesus granting

us anything that we ask in his name.

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So we're going to talk about that.

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And in that context, when.

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And you were stage diving

at that third point?

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No one is crazy.

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I know.

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I wish that they had caught me.

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And so I'm in the.

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Got a cast.

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And the braces and the, yeah.

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The crutches too.

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Yeah.

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And wheelchair, I didn't expect, but yeah.

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I'm sorry, man.

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I'm just going for the extra sympathy.

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I don't really need the wheelchair.

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Um, if I had faith like a mustard

seed, I I'd be walking in.

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Well, after this verses 22 through 23,

we get another prediction of the cross.

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And so the gospel

writers, it's interesting.

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They record these though at the time,

they didn't understand what they meant.

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And it says in the text,

they were greatly distressed.

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And so we kind of move past it quickly

because it's like, here's a few verses

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on him talking about the cross again.

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We're like, oh yeah, we understand that.

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They didn't know.

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And so they're distressed.

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They're going, what in the

world is he talking about?

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What does this all mean?

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I'm trying to move past

it as best they can.

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And then in verses 24 through 27,

you get this address of the temple.

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Uh, tax and I think Jesus flexes

here a little bit, because he asked

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the question about, Hey, does the

king have to pay taxes to anybody?

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And the disciples go, uh, no, they don't.

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And he says, okay.

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Yeah, but still, so it's not.

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To cause controversy

where it's not needed.

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Go ahead and go to this fish,

pull out the coin and, and pay

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the tax for, for all of us.

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So, eh, Jesus' point there.

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He was like, Hey, I'm not

beholding to your, your system.

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I'm not beholden to your

financial needs system.

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I'm the king.

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I'm not the one that

they supposed to give.

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I'm the one that's supposed to receive.

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And yet he's still going to do it

just to, to make sure things don't

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get out of hand before the hour.

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Then the sons are free.

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He says in verse 26, Or Christian's okay.

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Not to pay their taxes.

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Uh, sons are free.

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He says sons of the kingdom.

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Um, Our sense of thinking, right.

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Living, living in the kingdom.

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We're not yet living in the kingdom.

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We are sons of the kingdom,

daughters of the kingdom.

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But right now we live in

the kingdom of this world.

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And I think that the, what Jesus does

is demonstrate an example that says,

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Hey, While you're here in this world.

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Abide by the principles in this world.

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And so we'll do that.

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So go pull the corn out of

the fish's mouth and give it

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because that's what we do.

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Right.

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And just a couple of chapters.

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He's going to have another kind

of confrontation with those guys,

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and they're gonna say, Hey, is it

lawful to pay taxes to Caesar or not?

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So they're trying to pit

Jesus against himself, right.

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By making him trip all over his words.

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But later on, we're going to see

in Romans chapter 13, Paul says.

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Pay taxes.

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Taxes or wrote.

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So on the one hand, if you

can avoid paying taxes, we

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talked about this before then.

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Great.

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Do that.

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If you can legally get around

it, then, then don't do it.

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Use your money for kingdom stuff.

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Right.

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But if you're called to

pay taxes, then pay taxes.

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Yup.

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Yep.

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All right, Martin.

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Martin opens up again,

the transfiguration here.

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Um, And is this the one that

you wanted to talk about?

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Was there something else in there?

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Um, Start us off.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Let me turn my pages here.

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Martin 91 through 13, we

get back into the transfer.

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Your figuration here.

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Um, mark makes some interesting notes

just about the appearance of Jesus.

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Uh, there, he says his clothes

became radiant, intensely white.

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So it was no one on

earth could bleach them.

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I often think, I think it's the king

James version talks about the no

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fuller could make them a fuller was

apparently one that bleached garments.

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Alondra guy.

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Yeah, that word always sticks in my mind.

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I don't know why, but it does.

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Um, but yeah.

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Just the radiance of Christ,

the brilliance of him, we had a

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door and in the gymnasium at our

college, we had chapel in the gym.

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And so there were no lights because there

was no windows that would come through.

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So it was very dark in there.

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You leave there and you'd

open up this door and it.

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Brilliantly bright outside the

Southern California center.

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We call it the Chicago glory door.

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Because you were blinded when you

walked up there, that's kind of

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what's going on here with Jesus.

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They can't bear to look at him

because he is so brilliant meeting.

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Enlightened.

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My question actually comes to the

bottom of this pericope P here.

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Jesus heals a boy with an unclean spirit.

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Okay.

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That's what I titled that

section, just so you know.

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Okay.

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That's very clever.

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Thank you.

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He needs to reach out to you.

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Well, you know what, it's funny.

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Cause we, we, we title

things very similarly.

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You guys do, I'm noticing that's

really interesting how these

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coincidences keep lining up.

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Verse 29 says he said to them,

this kind talking about the.

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The demon that inhabited the

boy, the unclean spirit, right?

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So this kind cannot be driven

out by anything but prayer.

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Who's prayer.

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I mean, it was for sure.

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Surely the disciples were praying

in some way, shape or form to say,

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Lord, please cast out this demon.

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Um, is it the father's prayer?

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Is it the disciples?

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Prayer?

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And there's also a, there's a

little number here next to my

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Bible that says, uh, it says also

fasting could have been added.

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That seems to be a pretty later addition.

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In fact, a quick recommendation

as I'm thinking about it.

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Cause this.

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Really helpful when I was studying this.

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Do you have any familiarity

with the languages?

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The Nat Bible would be a great addition

for you to have new English translation.

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:

Yeah, the, the notes in particular,

the, the, the translation itself

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is fine, but it's the notes

in that Bible that give you.

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A lot more insight.

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If you care to know about,

uh, about manuscripts and why.

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Particular reading was

chosen over another.

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So if your Bible has a little

number next to verse 29 saying, and

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it adds and fasting it's because

it's very likely a later edition

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and not original to the text.

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So that said.

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Now tell us about this

prayer situation or.

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And what, what role does pre.

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And is this, does this mean that

I should be praying more every

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day so that I can cast out demons?

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Does this mean that the father didn't

pray for the son does mean that the

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disciples and they were trying to

cast out the demon weren't praying.

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I mean, help us understand some of

the things that are behind that.

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Yeah.

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I would take option C in that I think

this is a reminder to the disciples

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of their dependence on Christ.

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And even Kim coming down from

the mountain being transfigured

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showing who he truly is.

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I think it's a reminder of their

dependence, their need for him

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in all of his glory and all of

his power, their need for God.

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It would it.

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I think that the text on a bold

face reading of the text or bald

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face reading the texts, I think.

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Would imply that they weren't praying

anymore, that they were going out just

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thinking, well, we can cast out demons,

we've got the ability to do this.

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:

So I cast you out and maybe

they're saying in the name of,

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:

or whatever, but there's not the.

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There's not the spiritual dependence

on God, God getting the glory for this.

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That there should have been.

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And so Jesus is reminding them

slash rebuking them saying,

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Hey, look, this is only some.

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:

Uh, this is only doable by prayer.

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You need to remember that you

need God to be able to empower

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:

what's taking place here.

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:

Yeah, I think that's a great read.

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And I just feel like so many times

Christians understand the power of prayer.

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We just don't understand

the practicality of it.

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We we, in our minds, we say, yeah,

we, we, we can pay lip service to

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what, what it should do in our lives.

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But so often we all struggle and we

fall short of even our desires to pray.

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I guess, man, this,

this text encourages me.

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There's things that could

not happen in my life.

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Even as a Christian.

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Unless my life is well-oiled

with the oil of prayer.

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You know, if I, if I think of my, my

Christian life as a, as an engine.

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That's meant to run.

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That engine needs the spirit or the

oil of the spirit to keep it going.

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And that oil is, is obtained.

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I guess, if you will, in prayer

as I take my word, the word of

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God, and as I'm using that word to

inform my prayers and to shape them.

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That's going to help my engine run well.

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So if your engine is feeling

like it's just kind of running

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through mud, perhaps you need to

spend some more time in prayer.

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Asking God to open up that engine

and unleash you because this is

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such a critical part of our lives.

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And yet we, and we know that we

know everyone who listens to this

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knows exactly what I'm saying.

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Yes, that's, that's so true.

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And yet we also can say, we probably

struggle to get in the kind of

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prayer that we'd like to get.

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Man that's that's so well related

to what we're talking about or what

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we did talk about this past Sunday.

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Um, tell us again what

that sermon was because.

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go ahead.

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One of the points that we're

going to be talking about.

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There is doing bold things for Jesus.

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Um, when Jesus is going to tell

the disciples, you're going to

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do greater works than I've done.

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Uh, that's, that's an amazing statement.

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And then the third point is about

how prayer is connected with that.

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Anything that you ask in

my name that I will do.

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And so it's, it's connected there

and we're going to bridge those two

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:

points together with this quote from

RA Torrey, who says all that God is.

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All that God has is at

the disposal of prayer.

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All the God is in all that he has

is out the disposal of prayer.

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Prayer can do anything that God can

do, and as God can do everything,

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he says, this prayer is omnipotent.

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That's an amazing concept that if

we lived in the reality of that, We

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would be on our knees constantly.

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Yeah.

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If we were aware of the fact that prayer

is omnipotent, and to your point, you

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used the word unleashed a Christian.

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I love that because.

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I mean, if we would pray that

God would do things through

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us, in us, in our lives, then.

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And then we would be unleashed.

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We would be doing those

bold things for Christ.

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And doing greater works even than

we saw during his earthly ministry,

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not qualitatively greater, but

just greater in the scope that we

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would do them in the power of the

risen Christ and by the spirit.

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:

And so it's, uh, yeah, I

would agree with you, man.

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We need to be as, as you've.

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Been talking about recently,

we want to be a praying church,

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not just a church that prays.

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We want to have it be something that

characterizes who we are, not just

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something that, that occasionally we're

like, oh yeah, we should be, uh, we should

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:

pray because we're a church that prays.

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No, we want to be a praying church.

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:

How do we get that from who who's that?

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Who said that initially you quoted

somebody and I forget who it was.

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Was it a.

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Was it the guy from watermark.

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Maybe.

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That sounds right.

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I don't know.

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I say that.

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:

I think that's it, because I think we

heard him during one of the sessions.

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:

Yes.

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:

Anyway.

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Yes, it was from the CLC conference.

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Church leaders conference conference.

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PJ T T P T P J P book.

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Luda?

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No, no, it wasn't him.

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TA TA a teak.

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That's the guy.

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I'll be pastures with

initials for their name.

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They are.

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R a Torrey.

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Uh, T P a T a T Robertson.

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Uh, PJ PJ.

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Yeah, PPG.

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:

All right.

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:

Um, Anyways.

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:

Yeah.

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:

So that's my read on it is they needed to

be reminded of their dependence on Jesus.

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Yeah.

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:

Mark nine.

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:

He goes on another

prediction of the cross.

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We talked about that he.

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He's predicting this.

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:

Then mark.

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It includes this debate about

who's the greatest in Jesus'

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:

response is, Hey, you know what?

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:

The first will be last in

the last shall be first.

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:

And it's a paradoxical paradigm.

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:

That, that doesn't make

sense by our world standards.

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:

And so right after he's talking about

the cross and dying, they're going to

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:

hate, but who's going to be the greatest.

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:

And Jesus turns that on its

head says you want to be great.

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:

Be the least serve people at Philippians.

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:

Two comes to mind that

the parallel is there.

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:

Of what it looks like.

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To be the least of all.

652

:

Um, Yeah, 38 through 41, uh, who is

whoever's forests is, is not against us.

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:

And so we've talked about that briefly

before, but people are casting out demons.

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:

The disciples are like,

Hey, tell him to stop.

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No, they're there for us.

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Not against us.

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:

Let them go.

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:

Uh, what comes to mind?

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:

There is Paul again, in Philippians,

when the disciples are like, Hey, people

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:

are preaching the gospel to spite you.

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:

And he's like, whatever.

662

:

As long as the gospel is actually

being preached, let it go.

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:

Um, I'm happy for that.

664

:

Um, And then it ends with a section

on, on radical sanctification.

665

:

If, if your right hand causes

you to sin, cut it off.

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:

Your eye causes you to sin.

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:

Tear it out.

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:

It's better to enter life

maimed than to enter hell hole.

669

:

Is the idea there that, that radical

treatment of holiness pursuit of holiness.

670

:

Uh, is, is, uh, taught by

Jesus in numerous places.

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:

This is just the latest.

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:

I just want to highlight once more.

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:

I know I said this the last

time, but it's, it's so good.

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:

It's worth repeating.

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:

Uh, Jesus.

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:

Doesn't tell them not

to strive to be great.

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:

He doesn't tell me no guys,

you're thinking about it wrong.

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:

Don't be great.

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:

Yeah.

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:

I mean, he does kind of in a way,

but he doesn't dismiss their.

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:

They're holy ambition.

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:

He just defines it.

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:

So don't dismiss your desire to be great

in the kingdom, just to find it correctly.

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:

And that greatness is going to look

a lot like serving people, keeping

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:

the, keeping people your priority,

and making sure that your love for

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:

God and your love for people is.

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It's so evident in your life

that when you die, this is the

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:

thing that people point out.

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:

They're going to point

out your love for others.

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So don't, don't dismiss greatness.

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:

Define it biblically.

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:

Yeah.

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:

Yeah.

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:

I agree with you a

hundred percent on there.

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Be great the right way.

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:

That's right.

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:

The Jesus way.

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:

All right.

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:

I'll let's pray.

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:

And then we'll be done

with another episode.

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:

God, thanks for this.

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:

Thanks for that.

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:

Uh, encouragement there at the end.

704

:

We, we want to be a great church, but we

want to be a great church the right way.

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:

We want to be a church full of servants,

a church full of people that are,

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:

uh, after the exaltation of Jesus

with their entirety of their lives.

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:

And, and if we do that, if we aim

that direction, then we will be a

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:

great church in your estimation.

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:

So we pray for that.

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:

We pray that we would all have that

United mind to pursue that, that we

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:

would be, uh, the paradoxical paradigm

as we live that out amongst one another

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:

in our church and amongst the world

around us, we pray in Jesus name.

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:

Amen.

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:

Amen.

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:

I'll keep her in your

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