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In this next instalment of Fierce Woman Rising, I want to introduce you to the delightful Donna Karpeles. This 60 year old mum of 3, grandmother of 1, shares her very real story of surviving domestic violence, but then loosing herself in the "safety" of a new relationship, and the monotony of her 9-5. Donna calmed her racing mind with medication, and only felt emotion when she drank - which she did - a lot.

Donna's raw, real, down to earth nature makes this story all the more relatable and she shares how the decision to see a naturopath to start to heal her body, turned into something way more than she could ever imagine - unleashing the long since dormant "fire woman" within.

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• How easy it is to loose ourselves to the monotony of day-to-day survival
• Donna woke up to the fact she was using alcohol as a crutch because she didn't know how to feel without it
• The importance of getting really honest with ourselves and understanding our deepest motivators and blockers
• There will always be people who are uncomfortable and don't approve with the changes we make in ourselves - and how to carry on regardless
• In order to be loved again by others, we need to first learn to love ourselves       
• That health is the driver to our wealth & and rediscovered sense of self

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Welcome to fierce woman rising. The podcast

that ignites your inner fire and introduces you to women whose

shattered norms, rewritten rules and embraced financial

independence. I'm Claire, accountant, business mentor,

coach and your guide on this transformational journey. Each

week, I'll be sharing powerful interviews with women who have

embraced a life of purpose and taking control of their

destinies. Learn from their stories. Empower yourself and if

you feel called, join us in rewriting your own story.

Financial independence, joy and abundance are not just a dream.

It is your birthright. Let's rise together with fire and

become the next fierce woman rising. Welcome to another

episode of fierce woman rising today I am really really excited

to share this story with you. I have the beautiful Donna with me

today. And Donna is a 60 year old mother of three with one

grandchild that she is lucky enough to have living with her

along with her daughter and her daughter's partner, which is

just amazing. She is a Divi survivor. She is brand new to

this business, and she is on a mission to rediscover her inner

warrior, heal past traumas and re emerge as the confident and

fun loving woman that she knows she is deep inside. But you

know, sometimes just when life takes over, yeah, we can forget

who we are at our absolute core. What started as a side hustle to

Donner to bring in a little bit of extra income to help the

family coffers has turned into something so much more. And I'm

really really excited to share this story with you. It is so

inspirational. It is so moving. And Donna, I'm so grateful to

have you here. Thank you. Thanks, Claire for having me.

Actually. Yeah, and your first podcast. Isn't that exciting?

Let's elaborate a little bit on that. Tell us tell us and

everyone listening a little bit more about yourself.

Okay, so you've given the basic overall for me.

But yeah, I've come to a stage in my life where I thought I'm

just doing the day to day, you know, I am working in a normal

nine to five job coming home doing to sitting on the lounge

by myself virtually. And yeah. My husband comes in later has

he's to go straight back to bed because he's up so early. My

daughter gets home, she's rushing around with a, you know,

her little boy and yeah, it just feels like I don't I lost my

identity. I lost who I was really, you know? Yeah. When

you've been a when you're as old as me, I suppose. And you've

been through the family thing. You've got the emptiness thing

going on my husband, I had a really good thing going on, you

know, she asked us to and then you know, circumstances happen.

So Melissa moved back and, you know, things have sort of like,

gone back. I don't know, my house isn't as tidy as it used

to be. But that but that's,

I was having a little one there isn't it and

other people and

and, and I saw that I did I lost myself. And I

was feeling pretty, pretty flat. So I went to a naturopath and

she told me that you know, I had a few issues there and she said,

Oh, by the way, you know, do you want to try some water and I

weren't sure what sort of water is you know, thinking it's

coming out of one of those plastic things? Yeah, you know

the screen.

Yeah, yeah. The bubble of things. Yeah.

Yeah. They can i Okay, whatever. Anyway, she goes

no, no, you just try it and see what you think. Anyway, she lent

me a two liter glass bottle you know that get the big apple

juice things it well she filled it up and she said you know,

just whenever you want just come in back through the back door

and you know, just fill it up. Okay. So that was my start with

kangen water. Oh my goodness me now. We're seriously when I

started with the water. I was at eight kilos and feeling really

fat, frumpy. Just really not liking myself. I was eating

chocolates or sweets and I was drinking alcohol because they

were my crutches that's what leaning on, just so that I could

feel something, I wasn't feeling anything. So anyway, started

with the water. And within three or four days, I suppose I

started to notice, notice to change my gut because I have a

terrible gut from all surgeries from previous history with

domestic violence. So I could never eat anything or drink

anything. I say the doctor, oh, my god, I just have a glass of

water. And my gut goes moody. You know, Windy City, you know,

it, attic arts, you know, out of the basement sort of thing. And

my husband would always say, Oh, you have to, you know, forgive

her. She hasn't got a spleen, blah, blah, blah. And you know

that, that really started to grate on me. And it didn't make

me feel any better. But during the water, I noticed that my gut

had really settled down amazingly. And that I started

losing weight within the first week of having it, I'd lost a

kilo. I hadn't changed my diet. And anyway, and I'd lost the

kilos. And I thought, now I am 76 kilos. So I'm pretty happy.

And mind you, I didn't start this until March the water. And

then I got speak to me. And I said, Okay, you have to give me

more information on this water.

What is this magic stuff?

What is it? I don't need, I need it. I really

need it. But anyway, she said, Look, I'll send you a webinar,

you know, and it was on a master class, which we are having on

the 28th and 29th of September, two master class days that we're

having, which will be awesome. I watched one of these. And as

soon as I finished I message Leah. And I said, Well, yeah, I

mean, I want I'm all in let me go. Come on. I want to do this

business.

Can I stop you there for one second, and let's

just let's just recap. Because there's so much of what you've

just shared that it's just like, Ah, this I reckon there's so

much that people would relate with. So you're, you're you're a

woman in your 60s, who is working a job to make ends meet,

pay the mortgage, all that sort of stuff and feeling in this

monotony. And these Groundhog Day, and this, like over and

over every freaking day is the same. I'm just doing the same

thing every day. And then then your circumstances change you

have your daughter and her family move in as well. Because

you're a mom, you want to help her out, obviously. And then

suddenly your space that you've created, even though your normal

that you've created, even though it's not. It wasn't necessarily

lighting you up here, it was the Groundhog Day, it's disrupted,

and they're suddenly left going well, what the essentially, you

know, like, what the hell like, where do I fit? What am I now

like, what, and you're putting on weight and you're feeling

Blair, so you go to a naturopath? I think you know is

what so many. So many people are starting to do now you know,

being aware of you know, our lifestyle and the stuff that

goes into our bodies and stuff that it might not be a case of

going to the doctor's and popping some pills, it's like,

Okay, let's get my body back to some kind of normal, get your

body back to some kind of baseline, and then we can go

from there. So, so that's kind of where we're at, you've been

borrowing, you've been borrowing this water, you've been drinking

this water, you've been losing weight, you've been filling your

spark coming back and you're like, right, give me one. I want

to get me one of these. It's just, I was like, there's just

so much you've just shared in this space of five minutes. And

like, I've got to just recap that That's awesome.

Well, that's exactly what it was like, and

then you know, the DBS that we went through, which was Denise

Turner. She, you know, first of all, I had to go to the platform

and I had to put down my why, you know, really, you really do

have to think about it. Why am I why am I doing this? You know,

my husband said oh my god Another thing you're gonna do

and I said no, I'm serious about this. I've noticed that haven't

you noticed that I'm losing race together? I just thought you're

dieting or something and anyway, he just said yeah, whatever.

wasn't too happy about it. And you know what? Where there's a

will there's a way and will was knocking at my door kicked it

open for me and I walked through it. So

talk about that. Talk to me about the why

I. So for those that aren't familiar, the DBS process when

you're entering this business you go through, you go through

something we call the discovery process, isn't it? And it's like

it's like 10 questions. And it's it really helps us to identify

what it is that we're looking for. Because so many of us

explore opportunities like this, don't we? Because we were at a

point where we're like, we're stuck. We've had enough. We're

fed up and and we can talk about that, can't we, but it's

articulating what we want instead can be hard. And that's

what this process is all about, isn't it? So talk us through,

talk us through your why and what you discovered through this

discovery process.

Like I said, Before, my why is because I've

been doing nine to five for 44 plus years, working nine to 595,

raising three kids working full time, and just had to refinance

my mortgage. And it's just like, Oh, my God, it's never gonna

stop anyway.

It was supposed to happen at this stage of life.

I was supposed to be mortgage free by now. Yeah. And

that's what my husband was saying. So I just

said to him, Well, look, I'm gonna do this business. But my

why is to stop working. And for my husband stopped working,

because he's just got some health issues that are really

not, you know, making they're making them and, you know, he's

got your hips and he's got the arthritis coming in. He says,

Oh, yeah. All this stuff. Oh, well would say and I'm thinking,

yeah, you're just a black, right? That's just what you do.

You just moan about it, don't do anything about it. But anyway, I

went through this, this discovery process, and I

realized that I actually have a fear of money. And money was for

horrible people. You know, growing up in the 60s, like I

did, people that were had money looked down on people like me

that grew up in the suburbs of Sydney, I grew up in Fairfield.

And yeah, people look down on us. And I You're a Westie. You

know, all that sort of shit. You know what I mean? It's like, ah,

anyway, I have dreams of traveling. I've always had

dreams of traveling Claire, I, you know, I want to go to Egypt,

I want to go and dig on a site for dinosaur bones. I want to go

and explore. I mean, the first part of my years, you know,

growing up in Sydney, I really didn't do anything. I suppose I

traveled to Byron Bay, back in the hippie days. That's what I

call my up days smoked few cones and stuff. But that's what you

did up there. You know, you and we go surfing. That was what we

did.

Free, free spirited, free thinking

lifestyle before all that baggage of exactly. And it is

really thrust on our shoulders. Yeah. And

I want to go well, not back to the smoking

pot. But I want to go back to my up days of traveling,

you want to feel like that again, you want

to I burn and God can do and

doing the the discovery process. That's what I

found. I was missing, I'd lost me. And I thought it's all come

down to not having money. And I thought I don't, I don't want to

be the person that has money. Because then I'll lose all my

friends. And I'll be a alternative to a nasty person.

You know, I didn't want to do that.

Yeah. Isn't it funny how our ego so I call our

ego can keep us our ego is great. Like our our ego keeps us

nice and safe. But it also stops us stops, that inner child stops

that inner fire within us from coming out to the surface

because it's like, oh, hang on a minute. If you do that, then

it's gonna mean X, Y and Zed and then I'm not comfortable

anymore. So I better put a whole heap of shit into your head to

make you stop to make you not do that anymore.

Yeah, you're not doing you're not doing your

normal day to day stuff. So but yeah, after, like, the domestic

violence I really sort of like I come out. I thought now I can

beat this i did i i beat him. He's gone long out the picture.

But when I found my husband, I sort of like relaxed and let go

to and that fire woman as I've so now being called in It has.

She's She disappeared, because I felt safe and someone was going

to look after me. And I didn't need that, that drive that ego

to go somewhere to get going. And in actual fact, I think I

should have kept her because that's what attracted him to me

was my fire my drive my, my wild child. And, you know, he being

in the Army was very regimented. Me being the wild thing, I

think, you know, it's union,

opposites attract? Yeah, you've been a

ying

and yang. And, yeah, I just felt comfortable

and just let it all go. And I let him control everything,

well, not control. Well, yes, control everything, you know,

where we live, what I can do, where I can go, you know, I had

to sell a car because we were running out of money. And I was

my first car that I'd ever bought brand new car, and I had

to sell that to help, you know, pay for the mortgage or pay

something that was done. And then I got a cheap $1,000 car to

run around with. And, you know, this is all been happening over

the last 25 years. So 26 years can't remember now. It's my

life, I've been, you know, relying on something. And I this

is what I found in the discovery process, I had let go of my

reins and given control of my life to somebody else. And it

was really starting to grate on me, grate on me so much that

anxiety and depression set in and, you know, things from the

past kept coming up, coming up. And then I kept thinking of him

that wild child, he might, you know, leave me and it's just an

absolute nightmare going on in my head. So I started taking the

pills the doctor gave me to quiet me out. And that was it. I

was lost or feelings. The only time I felt anything was when

I'd drink alcohol. So which isn't good for your body. But

anyway, this is in the discovery process. I found this out. And I

had to write a letter to money and to apologize to money. And I

thought so stupid. But I did you find it stupid, you know? Yeah.

Anyway, I had to apologize to it because I found being in this

business that Wow. With money. I can do things. I can travel. I

can go on retreats. I'm going to Japan next year, for the 50th

anniversary of the business. I am able to save money now going

on a cruise in November. What else am I doing? Oh my god. It

see. And this is the thing I found my wild woman since we did

our retreat in Byron Bay. I've come back a new person and the

water. The EU con. You know, the EU cons amazing. Can I say

people with beside us or arthritic joints? Try it. It's

really, really good. No, truly, you know, I think I was telling

you about it how good it is because I've had knee

replacement and I've got bursitis in my hip. So I have my

econ every day and I can sleep and not have to worry about

that. So yeah, I am. I'm totally blessed. All I can say to Leanne

is Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for introducing me to the

water first, or being my naturopath first, I suppose.

Because you Natalie, and she's beautiful. She's an absolutely

gorgeous soul. And I trusted her and, you know, I thought I had

everybody kept saying did people tell you it was a scam?

Oh, yeah. And people still do and people very

close to me. You know, people very close to me and my family

and you know, who have known me for a really, really long time

have said some really hurtful things. And before even finding

out any information whatsoever. It's just jumping to conclusions

about what what this business is. And unfortunately I think

that is that does come from, you know, the 70s 80s and a lot of

these like total scam, Ponzi schemes, pyramid schemes,

particularly in the UK where I was from and they're in a

certain generation of people. There's this inbuilt fear and

there's this inbuilt distrust of anything that breaks away from

the norm. And so what I was saying To be doing was breaking

away from the norm and doing something risky and and whilst I

appreciate all of the comments and concerns come from a genuine

place of love and care. What really upset me was the fact

that well, you're just making assumptions and you're not doing

any due diligence, you're not doing any research, you're not

finding out anything and you're not trusting me. You know, I'm a

42 year old woman now I'm gonna get to the for Christ's sake,

you know, do you really think I'm gonna risk my professional

reputation? My family's upbringing for something that is

an illegal scam? I'm like, I don't think so. I'm not that

frickin stupid. But yeah, so and I think, I think it's something

that we've all got to, I don't want to say embrace that sounds

like the wrong word. But we've almost got to, we've almost got

to expect there are going to be people that are not mature

enough in their thinking. And I am going to say that purposely

not mature enough in their thinking to open their mind to

something different to something that breaks breaks the norms.

And yeah, it's up to us to then trust in ourselves enough to

keep forging forward regardless. That's the way I see it.

That's right, you know, and like, my husband

got scammed, you know, with the Bitcoin so lost nearly 50 grand

in Bitcoin, which, yeah. Was, I've never told that anybody was

a bit much, you know, and I'm gonna cry now. Sorry, I'm

gonna apologize.

Yeah, so doing this, and I said, it's not a

scam home, it's not. Look, you're, I'm not paying out money

for nothing. I'm actually paying out money for a water filtration

system, you know, and the water, you should look at me, I look

how much weight I've lost. And look how much healthier I'm

looking. And I'm not using the alcohol as a crutch anymore. You

know, I feel better in myself, that in itself,

is worth it. And that is exactly what I said

to my mom, I was like, That in itself is worth it. I'm the

same, I've dropped about eight kilos, I look younger, I feel

more vibrant, I feel more energetic. And that in itself is

enough. Like we have rented. We've got rid of so many toxic

chemicals and cleaning products and like beauty products for me

in our house. Because the Ka provides it all does it all. We

you know, that in itself is enough. And the fact that we can

then earn ourselves an income and living more than a living we

can earn a means to allow our dreams to come true from it.

That's just a freaking bonus in my eyes.

Yeah. But I also love you know that within the

platform that there is all this stuff to learn about yourself.

Yes, your mindset. And oh my god, I'm doing one on money

mindset. Because I wrote the letter to money to say I'm

sorry, and forever doubting you. And now whenever I get money,

whether it might be five cents, or you know, I might pay a bill.

And I'll put on the bill I write actually write on the printed

out because I get them sent to me as emails. And I print them

out. And then I say thank you for the money. And thank you for

the service that you gave me so often, even though it's a bill

and we all go when we got a bill. But I actually think the

people that gave me that service. And you know, I always

say thank you to people in the shops or anything, it's a treat

to be grateful. And I found in other studies that I'm doing

that being grateful and thankful. You just wake up every

morning and you just say thank you. I'm alive. Yeah. You know,

and I've just since doing this with the water and this other

study that I've been doing, you know, with epigenetics and

everything like that. It's amazing how we carry our parents

thoughts with us. Because that's in your genes. And to break that

cycle, it's going to take you 21 days, you know, an inner child,

you know, you only have to say something to a child three times

and then it becomes a habit and that's what you know. And that's

actually my daughter told me that she told me that she said

Mom, do you know if you tell Roy something or allow him to do

something three times that he That's okay. And he can do that.

And she's trying to teach him all these things and he comes

grandma everyday she's knowing apparently but no, seriously,

I'm it's gonna be awesome to see what his life's like because he

he'll be one in November since like my when I got my export

machine could have made June maybe I got it in June I think

because I joined the business in May 23. And he has virtually

been on the water since then. So all his formula bottles are made

straight from the machine there's no need to boil that

water because it's just pure and students have it he's never had

a tummy upset or anything like that he's got a cold Yes. But

that's just because he started daycare but you know, and I got

my an Esper today. Oh, exciting. For everyone who doesn't

know and an ESA is another product by the

company that we that we align with. And it's a it's a mineral

shower, essentially. So it's a unit that goes into your

bathroom, and the water passes through charcoal filters and a

whole heap of other magical things. I don't even understand

the science I don't need to I just know it's frickin amazing.

Skin hair, everything about it. You just feel a million dollars.

It's like you've been in this like luxury spa every morning.

It is so amazing.

You know what I I noticed that when we were

away, that everybody that has the an Esper spa, all your skin

was glowing. And I thought, I have to get this thing because I

know your glow from it, you know, inside out, but you know,

we've got the water inside and it's doing all it seems and I

just thought I saved some money. And I got the shower. Now my

husband will die when he gets home.

My husband was like, What the hell is this

contraption now? And I plugged mine in myself because it's all

just, you know, screws in and stuff like that. And he, he

turns it on. And he was like, What have you done? leaking

everywhere because I hadn't tighten things up and nap and

stuff like that. And it's like, Oh my God. So he goes through

his shed and he gets his stuff and tightens it all up and

things and he said to me the other day, he was like, you

know, he's sort of admitted this the tough tradie he's like,

actually, you know, skin and hair does feel pretty good with

that shower. How much?

Thank you. Thank you very much tick, tick.

factly

minds now do I put it into the bathroom where

my grandson has his bath? Because you know, I'd love to

see him have lovely skin everything? Or do I just be

greedy and put it in my own ensuite so

to be angry as being functionally selfish.

I like that. Actually functionally selfish. I

like that. Yeah, that can be me. Yeah. Because it is all about

me. And that's what I've decided. It's I've done enough

of the everybody else thing for 40 odd years. Yeah, but it's

time for me. So yeah. And, and that's what I love about the

business. There are so many of us that have got different

stories to tell. But, you know, I thought I will. I did. I was

really hesitant to go and when, you know, cash said, Come on

join us.

This is our retreat. We're just standing by

Yeah.

Yeah, I went. Anyway, I said to my husband, I

got off the thing with cares. And I said to my husband, can I

can I go to a retreat and Byron and I went, hang on. I'm going

to retreat and Byron. I knew it then because he just looked at

me. But I said I'm going to retreat and Byron. It's in two

weeks time I'm booking my airfares and everything like

that. And while I was booking I went and got myself a Qantas

club card so that I could sit in the Qantas club when I travel

now because, you know, I thought I'm worth it. I can do this. I'm

a businesswoman now and that's how I am thinking of this now.

Yes, it is on the side hustle at the moment. And look, I've got

to be realistic until I actually start making sales to other

people and that I need my other income to pay my bills. to pay,

you know, mortgage and food and everything like that, so I'm not

being stupid about it. But it at the moment is a passive income.

And I actually by getting myself my Nessebar, I have now getting

a commission from that. So exactly, I'm getting money back

for buying myself something. So I think that that's just

awesome. And you know, I didn't have the money to start with IVA

Claire, I told you, I didn't have the money. So I got a loan

for it, and it is 220 bucks a month for my aid. And all I can

say it's money well spent. And you know, look, the kids are

today, they all want to do that. What is it, pay, pay, pay plus

pay? I like this

zip pay type thing. Yeah. And the idea

that they're willing to do that, for what a

dress or something that they might wear once or something,

but there are a new phone

or whatever. Yeah.

But I just thought, Oh, this is a laybuy

system. To me, this is what we used to have the laybuy. But you

never got the goods until you paid for it. But this way I'm,

I've done a loan. And I must say the interest is better than in a

bank. And we can get in the bank if you want to. But I am quite

happy. My daughter loves the water. My son in law loves the

water. And I know my grandson does because he just you give

him his little sippy cup, and he likes to just drink his water.

So

everybody, little kids actually enjoy

drinking water, you know. And that's, that's yeah, that in

itself is amazing. Like, there's, there's so many things

that I could pick up on, on what you've said. But I think the

biggest the biggest thing that's really shone through to me, and

I'll be interested to hear what listeners think as well, but the

biggest thing that shone through to me is that what started as

what started as something very practical and as much as or

here's, here's a product that is going to help your body turned

into something else practical, it's like Oh, and by the way,

you can actually earn an income from it, you know, so the

practical head is like, okay, tic tic, but what you found,

since jumping in, is that there's actually so much more to

it, and the woman that you are allowing yourself to become

because of it is, you know, going back to the you that you

knew way before way back in the day before life happened before

layers of crap in and just general adulthood and

responsibilities and pressures and past experiences and

memories and people's opinions and your beliefs about yourself

and your the self talk before all that shit piled up. You

know, you're this is now allowing you to crack through

all of that. Yeah. Now, I want you to come back out again, how

many businesses do that?

And I've worked in quite a few businesses,

multinational companies that spruik all this love and you

know, all these pillars of whatever they want to call them.

And don't actually practice it.

tick box, isn't it corporate? tickbox

Yeah, and they don't you know, and I've spoke

to other people that are the same and they're just going oh,

wish I had your guts. And I said, Well, I didn't have any.

It's just that after I did the my discovery process and if

there's something that I'm not sure on now, I can go back to

that or talk to one of you girls and yeah, I look I am absolutely

beaming. I haven't felt this good or alive in years and I

just want to say thank you everybody. Because you allowed

me to come out of my I don't know what it was my depression,

my anxiety hibernation hearing. Yep. And you know, I would hide

under frumpy clothes. I have got some really frumpy ship my

cupboard which I don't know if you could see but this is a new

dress that I've got on I

just beautiful, colorful, vibrant,

energetic, and that's just how I am this is

what my husband fell in love with. And he said to me, Oh, you

look good. Like isn't that

just freaking amazing? Like we are in a if we

are in a funk and I was messaging someone about this

just this morning if we are in a funk, we have got to get

ourselves out of that funk. First, we have got to love

ourselves before others can love us, we have got to give to

ourselves before others can give to us. We've got to be trust

ourselves before others can trust us. It always starts with

us, doesn't it? And so if there's something that we want,

that we don't feel we're getting it is feedback to have a look at

how we're not giving it to ourselves. So now you're out of

that funk, you're coming out of the other side of you're hiding

and you're loving yourself, you're loving on yourself, your

husband can see you again. How amazing is that?

No. And that and that also, like attracts like?

Yep. So if I'm loving myself, he's gonna love me. And it's,

it's like with everything, and I just can't thank this business

enough for helping me, you know, pull me out. And make me

actually think and question my Why Why am I doing this? Why do

I allow myself to beat up on myself? You know, for things

that I had, you know, I couldn't control or stop a person from

doing what they did to me all those years ago. If I tried to

tell anybody, he would threaten to go after them and hurt them.

So I had to get out of that situation myself. And that's

where that that enemy came out again. And I was doing that for

five years on my own. And then I, like I said, met my husband,

and he fell in love with that. And she went and hid again. But

she's coming back out. And she's coming out with a vengeance. So

the the Yeah, I am totally blessed. I have to say I am. I'm

not a religious person, but I do believe there's gods. Yep.

There's a higher beam

and Aryans, you know, oversee, you know,

whatever you want to call them. There's people that look out for

us. Yeah, well,

maybe the vibrations. I've got, I'm on

that higher vibration now. So I'm going to attract that to me.

And I think in this business that also teaches that, you

know, and I think I'm hearing it from one spot, now I'm hearing

it from another spot. So it can't be woowoo or anything like

that. And I've been doing my other training now, this will be

my third year, which has really helped me to come out. But the

breakaway for me was the retreat. Yeah. You know, meeting

or everybody face to face able to hug people. And, you know, I

picked Joanne up from Byron Bay. And within 10 minutes of driving

in the car, it was like, we're all buddies. You know, like, she

was my sister from another mother. And we, and that's the

thing, this this community that we're in, it's a beautiful

community. And it's, it's not about money, or Oh, look at me,

I'm, you know, earning X amount of dollars, because there was

lots of different people in that group. There was people like me

newbies, people like you that have been in there for a little

bit. But nobody worries about that. Everybody's there to help

everybody else up. And it doesn't matter if it's within

the business side of things. It's personal. It's

health. Yeah, anything in our stuff. Yeah.

Yeah,

you know, there is always someone there to

listen. And because we've got people, not only women, there's

men in there as well. And, you know, there is always someone

there that can help you. And I am totally blessed to to be

within this business. And I thank you, Claire for letting me

talk today.

It's been an absolute honor. I was just gonna

I was gonna ask you one final thing. If there are, if there

are women listening to this, if they're ananas listening to this

thinking to themselves are you know, I'm too old for this. My

life is set now. I couldn't I there's no way I could do this.

What would be your advice to them?

My advice? Well, actually, there's a woman in the

business who's 72. And she is thriving. I would don't listen

to what your husband says. Because or your partner. Let's

just don't listen to your partner. Listen to your inner

self truly. If it feels right for you, and you've never had

it. How would you put it? If you If you doubt yourself, you'll

keep on doubting yourself and you're being stuck. Why if you

You let other people tell you how to live. And you keep

listening to the naysayers in your life, you'll be stuck where

you are, which is what I did. Because it was easy to be that

way and knowing what's going to happen rather than jumping out

which I did jump full feet in, just jump in, go for it. Be that

young teenager again, and go for it. And look. I actually was

talking to some people yesterday, I went to the Henty

Field Day. And I had some conversations. I've got to send

some information out today. I love Yes. And my hairdresser

today she goes, I don't know you're going to send me this

stuff. And I'm actually when I finished this, I'm going down to

drop her some water. And tell the the other hairdresser that

said the one that owns the business, about the Nessebar

absolutely get those in this was in the cell,

oh my god, everyone is going to be loving their hair.

You know, they're just going to be they

can do it as a spa treatment for their hair. So anyway, look.

Trust your instincts. Because if you don't, you're just gonna be

sitting back there on the couch, just go on. And then on your

deathbed, you'll just say, Oh, I wish I had done this or I wish I

had done that. Because that's how I was and no more not. Now.

Instead of spending that 50 bucks a week on

alcohol to drown your sorrows and numb all that out. You're

repaying your you're repaying your investment in yourself,

your health, your wealth. And and let's face it your next

generation because you've led the way you've shown the courage

you've gone first, that's going to rub off on your daughter

that's gonna rub off on her son, and that's gonna rub off on all

the generations to come. So you're breaking the cycle,

because you're the one who was brave enough to go first. And I

love that.

Yeah, and you know, we're water snobs. We

really aren't that water. Like, you. That smells horrible. I

just can't drink it. Now, water snob, apparently, there's coffee

snobs, and you'll be even more a coffee snob.

When you make it with the water. Yeah, with

your coffee or tea.

You'll never have tap water in your jug

again. Oh my god. It's so funny plays. If anything, just just

have a look. It doesn't cost you anything to look. It doesn't

cost you anything to ask. And that's what I did. I pasted it

first. And then I talked. And I talked and I kept having an

honorarium. And then I went up. I'm doing this. So do it. Yeah.

Love it. Donna, thank you so much for anyone and

everyone who has resonated with your story. I'll put all your

social links in the show notes to this episode as well so

people can reach out and connect with you. And I'm sure you'll be

alright with that.

Yeah. Thanks. i Yeah,

I love it. I absolutely love I love talking

to you. I love hearing your story. I think it's really

inspirational. Thank you so much.

Thank you so much. Bye, bye.

Isn't she just a delight, like seriously, I

really got to know Donna at our recent retreat in Byron Bay and

we were sat around the pool soaking up the sun and she was

just telling me about her, her younger days, her abusive

relationship, how she, you know, was beaten within an inch of her

life. How she got through that and found her now husband and I

was just like, Oh, my God, you have to share your story and you

have to speak about it more because that is people will

relate to that people. There are people who have been through

similar things to to Donner and and if you are one of those and

you are listening to this, then you know, I know that she would

be happy for you to reach out and and chat things through but

I just absolutely love her attitude. Now I love so much

about everything that she shared. And I think it's really

really relatable particularly to women in their 60s. You know, I

see that as my mom's generation. We just we I'm not there yet.

You get in a place of well, this is just it now you know, this is

this is where I'm at. It's too late to try anything new. I just

have to you know make the best of where I'm at. And what I love

about Donna and her story is that she hasn't settled for that

she's she's still looking for opportunities and and something

that started off in the more practical space of helping her

body get back to a natural flow state has now emerged has now

emerged that's the wrong word. What's the word I'm looking for,

flowed into something that is going to earn her an income as

well and means that she doesn't have to work a nine to five

until she's 7075 years old in order to pay the mortgage. And I

think that's just absolutely fabulous. I think what I love

about this business is the fact that we all go into it for

whatever practical reason we go into it. For donner, it was

health. For me, it was an extra income on the side. But what we

soon discover very, very quickly is that there is so much inner

work that comes from being an entrepreneur and having your own

business, and we are 110% supported in that space as well.

And doing that inner work allows us to shine even brighter to

impact even more lives, impact, even more people feel better

within ourselves, that ripples into our close relationships and

our families, I just can you just love the comment where

Donna shared how her husband made reference to the fact that

she looked good. I think that is so so beautiful. And when we

like I said at the time, when we start loving on ourselves, when

we start appreciating ourselves, it allows other people to

appreciate us too. So so so good, I trust you got oodles and

oodles of value out of that episode. And something that she

spoke about a lot was the power of the discovery process and

answering really quite confronting questions as to what

it actually is that we want. And this is something I talk about a

lot, you know, it's really, really easy to talk about all

the things in our lives that we don't enjoy, and that aren't how

we want them to be. But when it comes to talking about things

that we want instead, that's where many of us are stumped. So

if that's you, and and you're curious about what this

discovery process looks like, and how you can be a part of it,

and how you can go through it, then just reach out. And and

I'll let you know, at the end of the day, it doesn't even you

don't even need to go into this business to do to do that

process. Yeah, that's a valuable step to do on its own. And if

you decide Well, no, I don't want to I don't want to go into

high ticket affiliate marketing and and forefinger commissions

from posting on my socials, I want to I don't want to do that

I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing, that's fine. But you've

still opened your eyes to something, you've still created

new neural pathways, you still started to articulate the life

that you want. And when you can actually articulate something,

you can have it because you begin to see opportunities that

you couldn't see before because those pathways in your brain

were just closed off. So it's an incredibly valuable, valuable

process. And I would encourage anybody who is not feeling 110%

content with their life right now to to go through it and

answer their questions and get some clarity on where you want

to take your life and what sort of vehicle you're going to need

to look for in order to get there. All right, that is enough

for me all of Donna's contact details are going to be in the

show notes to this episode, along with all of mine, and a

link to my fierce woman rising masterclass or you can message

me and I will send you a link to that masterclass message me the

word masterclass Donna, and I will send you the link to that

class. It will tell you all about high ticket affiliate

marketing, what we do, why we do it, why we love it, how we do at

how much we earn and how you can get into that discovery process

and start exploring for yourself. Okay, thank you so

much for lending me your ears. I will be back with you for

another episode next week. And until then, bye bye