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Ep 82: Retaining Clients
Episode 8217th April 2023 • Beyond the Kitchen Table (previously the Website Coach) • Marie Brown
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Hello, welcome to episode number 82 of the website, coach podcast.

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And you will have a great Easter.

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I am recording this just after the Easter weekend.

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Having eaten far too much chocolate.

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But I'm also just back from a trip to the lake district.

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It was glorious sunshine for a couple of days.

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And then of course we did suffer some rain.

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And the reason I'm telling you that is because that trip

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did inspire today's episode.

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Which is all about getting customers to come back.

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Now I live in Kent.

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And the lakes is a long drive.

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It's six hours on a good day.

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And believe you and me, it's not often we have a good day driving up to the

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lakes, especially at Easter weekend.

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But we go every year.

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And we stay in the same hotel.

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Every single year.

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We have been going now for over 25 years.

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The first year, and we're just four of us, my parents, my brother and I, and

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now we're 11 as I've got married and had a family and my brother the same,

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and my mother-in-law comes with us to.

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So even ignoring the increase in prices.

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The repeat revenue.

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Because of the number of times we've been and the number of people that now come.

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Has been over 50 times what the original revenue was.

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That's a lot.

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It's a lot more revenue from a repeat client than from

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the very first time we went.

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So why do we go back?

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Well, in this episode, I'm going to talk about why we go back and how

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you can apply similar principles.

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Now.

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You probably know that getting repeat business is incredibly

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helpful for your business.

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When clients come back to you time and time again, they're likely to spend

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more money with you over the long term.

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So it might be booking additional sessions, buying more of your products.

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It might be upgrading.

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And of course there is referring their friends and families to your business.

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And these people are very loyalty view.

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And especially in, for example, a downturn.

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They are still more likely to come back and it's just much easier

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to retain an existing customer.

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Or to get an existing customer to come back to you than it is

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to actually get a new client.

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And.

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It's a very good base.

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Level of revenue as well.

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So if you offer something like, um, At York say a yoga

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teacher or massage therapist.

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You know that getting those clients to come back time and

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time again is incredibly good base revenue for your business.

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And you can obviously build on that.

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And actually I do similar in my business.

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About 20% of my revenue last year.

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Was from, , the hosting and maintenance.

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I provide to clients whose websites I have built.

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And that's a really good, predictable level of revenue

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every single year that I get.

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And obviously it's increasing as I build new websites as well, because the

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retention rate on that is incredibly high.

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And probably each year I may be loose, say a customer who decide they're no

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longer going to continue in business.

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Very very occasionally there might be going to somebody else.

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But.

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It's really good.

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Predictable revenue.

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And the other thing is with those is those clients when they need additional

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changes to their website, for example, they come to me to do it most of the time.

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A couple of them have VA's or tech VA's as well.

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Most of the time they come to me.

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And so actually probably a better quarter of my revenue, maybe

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even a little bit more than that.

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Is from that client base.

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That the benefit isn't just, you.

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There is a benefit to the client as well.

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So we certainly find this when we go up to the lakes and stay in

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the same place every single time.

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Um, because we know them.

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We know exactly what we're going to get.

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Any chair we go, we do sort of think, oh, I wonder what changes they have

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made to the hotel because they do continually invest as it was very

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interesting to see what they have done.

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But we know what we're getting.

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We know, and we trust and we feel really comfortable and competent when we go there

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that we are going to have a great holiday.

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Um, And.

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I think the other thing is that it's something we need.

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We have the competence to be able to ask for it.

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They know us as well.

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So that level of trust really works both ways.

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So, how do you get kids to come back?

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Well, the first thing, which is very obvious is to offer a good service.

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We clearly would not be going back.

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It's a surface was terrible.

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Uh, if it was something like a faulty towers or something like that.

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But we go back because every year the service is good

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and it's not just a service.

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It's great.

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It's the whole environment.

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And now not every single thing is amazing.

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I will be the first to say that, but the things that are important to us

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are, so we like, you know, Good food.

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We like friendly staff and frankly, You know, If it's not the, I

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dunno, the nicest biscuits on the nicest toiletries in the bathroom.

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Then we don't care so much about that.

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So it's a case of thinking about what is important to your clients.

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And making sure, especially the clients you want to come back, making sure

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that you focus on delivering that and doing that really, really well.

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So think about, say what it is for your clients that you can continually do.

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What's important to them.

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And that you can really focus on.

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Is it speed of service?

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Is it friendliness of service?

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Is it cost.

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Uh, what is it that they, that is important to them and that

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you can deliver really well on.

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The second thing.

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It's to build up a relationship with them.

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And there is no doubt about it that we have built.

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Very good relationship with the owners of this hotel.

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And the ownership has changed from the parents to.

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The daughter and her husband.

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Over the time that we have been there, it's a family run hotel.

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Um, and we have a very good relationship with them.

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We have a very good relationship with the staff.

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And there's a lady.

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Uh, one of the waitresses, she's quite senior waitress who has

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been there a number of years.

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And, you know, she obviously recognizes that.

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From year to year.

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And this year, she very sweetly, uh, my nephew who is very into his food.

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Uh, she, um, she gave him a pad of paper.

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And he took the orders one night and she got him to.

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You know, tech going to the kitchen and take the orders into the

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kitchen and then, uh, you know, sort out the cutlery and help set the

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table and those kinds of things.

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And that's because that relationship has been built up and she knows that

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he's really interested in his food and quite interested in the kitchen.

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And what goes on in a restaurant is only seven blessings.

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He's very, very interested in that.

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And so they actually, Nope.

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Took that, and it wasn't difficult for them to do.

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But because the relationship is there.

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They.

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Really made the most of that.

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So, and obviously that just warmed our hearts as well.

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, especially when she.

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You know, managed to find a Dicky bow for him to wear as

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he was waiting on our table.

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And that is the benefit of having a good relationship because we already have that

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great relationship, but . If we hadn't, it would have made us more likely to go back.

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So building up a really strong relationship with client.

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You want to make sure that you are their number one choice for whatever

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it is that you do, and they're not tempted to go anywhere else.

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That they will stick with you because they know that there is

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a very good relationship there.

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The third thing is.

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Making it easy for them.

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Make it easy for them to rebook.

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And this one.

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Is critical.

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So there is one year in the last something like 27 years.

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So they're two years in the last.

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About 27 years that we have not been to this hotel.

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One of which was COVID and the other was fairly early on and we hadn't rebooked.

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And when we came to book it, it was full.

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We couldn't get the rooms that we needed.

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So we ended up going elsewhere.

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Now, what we do now is when we go, we, as we're leaving, we rebook for next year.

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After we have impact booked for 2024.

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Already.

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And we are not an organized family.

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So that is something that is fairly unique to going there.

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But.

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Before your clients leave.

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Ask us.

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I want to rebook my hairdresser does this.

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My dentist does this.

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People are fairly used to it, but can rebook before they actually leave.

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Or even better.

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You could see whether you can book a block.

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So obviously it doesn't work with something like a hotel, but if you are.

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At yoga teacher or that massage therapist or whatever it might

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be, try and get people to book a block of, uh, sessions with you.

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Before they leave, maybe they have a trial one and then get them to book a block.

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And put the dates in the diary.

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So it's not just going back once, but it's coming back, you know, every two

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weeks, every week or whatever it might be.

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And my other personal experience of this is.

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I used to go to It's glass.

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And I booked for the whole term.

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I couldn't make every single week, but I booked for the whole term

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because that's what you had to do.

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And a new plot, a studio is open near me and.

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Needed just to say I've been going less often because he

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booked them one at a time.

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So I think, oh, well, I won't.

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I'm not going to book.

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Cause I don't know what I'm doing next week.

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If I had booked a block and I knew I booked for every single week,

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I'd be much more likely to go.

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Then as is currently the case where I go really quite sporadically.

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The third thing.

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Sorry, the full thing can't count today.

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Which is related to that is providing an offer that is attractive to them.

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So it may be that you gave some kind of a discount for block booking.

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It may be that by booking straight away, they can get the time

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that they actually want to get.

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Or it may be that you offer some kind of loyalty bonus.

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It doesn't have to be financial.

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It could be something.

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Additional that they might get for being a loyal client.

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But again, it's a case of thinking about what is going to make or persuade

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somebody who is an existing client.

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Come back again.

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What it is that you can offer.

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And the final point really?

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Is to follow up.

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So it may be that they don't book straight away.

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But you can email them.

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Or message them.

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Text message DM over social media.

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And just drops them a note asking if they'd like to rebook and it might

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be that you, again, there is some kind of incentive for rebooking.

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So you might say that I'm getting quite booked up for the next month.

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If they would like a session.

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Um, it might be that you offer some kind of a, again, a loyalty bonus.

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Um, but reminding them of the benefit of coming back to you.

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Is key here.

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So don't be afraid to follow up.

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I know, you know, I get regular reminders from quite a few services

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that I have used in the past.

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Seeing if I want to book again, it might be my obsessions telling me

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that I am due for another appointment.

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Or something like that.

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And usually they go unread in my inbox.

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Together with lots of other emails, which are in my personal

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inbox and it, my business inbox.

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Um, but the fact that they are continually reminding me

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means I will eventually rebook.

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So.

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There are certain services that I use, which I know that

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I'm overdue and appointment.

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And I will eventually book, but if they hadn't been reminding me.

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On a monthly or quarterly basis.

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Then I would be much more likely to forget.

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And I suspect the same applies to you as well.

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So don't be afraid to follow up with people and see whether

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they want to, to rebook.

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And I'd say it depends upon the relationship that you have with them.

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As duke, which is the most important.

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Appropriate platform to do that.

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Is it doing it via email, which is, can be fairly impersonal.

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Um, you could just email all clients in one go.

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Obviously that's assuming that you have the approval from them

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to market to them in that way.

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Or it could just be a very personal DM to somebody that,

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you know, that is a real one-off.

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And I know quite a lot of people who have had a lot of success in giving that.

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So that's it fairly short and sweet this week?

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But I just want to run through the five ways you can retain

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clients, uh, briefly again.

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And so the first is to offer a good service, which is obviously

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pretty self-explanatory.

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But it's a case of thinking in particular about the parts of your

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service, which are important to.

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Any key to your ideal clients?

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The second is to build up a relationship with them.

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You want to be trusted and you want to be liked by them.

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And you want to be then number one choice to go to for

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whatever service it is that you.

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Uh, provide.

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The third is to provide is to make it easy for them to rebook.

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Um, either by doing it.

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On the day or, um, just generally making it easy for them to rebook.

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The force is to provide an offer that they will like, and that may incentivize them,

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or motivate them to rebook either to make sure that they get the best availability

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or alternatively, it might be a financial.

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Uh, benefits to booking, for example, at block.

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Or it might be some kind of a loyalty bonus.

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And the final way is to follow up, say, do not be afraid to follow up.

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So that's it for this week, fairly short and sweet.

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And if you want to know the name of the hotel that I stay

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in, in the lake district.

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If you are looking to go up there, then.

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Feel free to DM me.

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I'm on Instagram at, beyond the KT, or send me an email, say hello

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at, beyond the kitchen table.co.uk.

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And if you're enjoying this podcast, then feel free to

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drop me a note and let me know.

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I always like to hear from people who listen.

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And I will see you again next week.

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Have a great week everybody.

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And don't forget to try and retain existing clients.

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