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Hello, welcome to episode number 82 of the website, coach podcast.
Speaker:And you will have a great Easter.
Speaker:I am recording this just after the Easter weekend.
Speaker:Having eaten far too much chocolate.
Speaker:But I'm also just back from a trip to the lake district.
Speaker:It was glorious sunshine for a couple of days.
Speaker:And then of course we did suffer some rain.
Speaker:And the reason I'm telling you that is because that trip
Speaker:did inspire today's episode.
Speaker:Which is all about getting customers to come back.
Speaker:Now I live in Kent.
Speaker:And the lakes is a long drive.
Speaker:It's six hours on a good day.
Speaker:And believe you and me, it's not often we have a good day driving up to the
Speaker:lakes, especially at Easter weekend.
Speaker:But we go every year.
Speaker:And we stay in the same hotel.
Speaker:Every single year.
Speaker:We have been going now for over 25 years.
Speaker:The first year, and we're just four of us, my parents, my brother and I, and
Speaker:now we're 11 as I've got married and had a family and my brother the same,
Speaker:and my mother-in-law comes with us to.
Speaker:So even ignoring the increase in prices.
Speaker:The repeat revenue.
Speaker:Because of the number of times we've been and the number of people that now come.
Speaker:Has been over 50 times what the original revenue was.
Speaker:That's a lot.
Speaker:It's a lot more revenue from a repeat client than from
Speaker:the very first time we went.
Speaker:So why do we go back?
Speaker:Well, in this episode, I'm going to talk about why we go back and how
Speaker:you can apply similar principles.
Speaker:Now.
Speaker:You probably know that getting repeat business is incredibly
Speaker:helpful for your business.
Speaker:When clients come back to you time and time again, they're likely to spend
Speaker:more money with you over the long term.
Speaker:So it might be booking additional sessions, buying more of your products.
Speaker:It might be upgrading.
Speaker:And of course there is referring their friends and families to your business.
Speaker:And these people are very loyalty view.
Speaker:And especially in, for example, a downturn.
Speaker:They are still more likely to come back and it's just much easier
Speaker:to retain an existing customer.
Speaker:Or to get an existing customer to come back to you than it is
Speaker:to actually get a new client.
Speaker:And.
Speaker:It's a very good base.
Speaker:Level of revenue as well.
Speaker:So if you offer something like, um, At York say a yoga
Speaker:teacher or massage therapist.
Speaker:You know that getting those clients to come back time and
Speaker:time again is incredibly good base revenue for your business.
Speaker:And you can obviously build on that.
Speaker:And actually I do similar in my business.
Speaker:About 20% of my revenue last year.
Speaker:Was from, , the hosting and maintenance.
Speaker:I provide to clients whose websites I have built.
Speaker:And that's a really good, predictable level of revenue
Speaker:every single year that I get.
Speaker:And obviously it's increasing as I build new websites as well, because the
Speaker:retention rate on that is incredibly high.
Speaker:And probably each year I may be loose, say a customer who decide they're no
Speaker:longer going to continue in business.
Speaker:Very very occasionally there might be going to somebody else.
Speaker:But.
Speaker:It's really good.
Speaker:Predictable revenue.
Speaker:And the other thing is with those is those clients when they need additional
Speaker:changes to their website, for example, they come to me to do it most of the time.
Speaker:A couple of them have VA's or tech VA's as well.
Speaker:Most of the time they come to me.
Speaker:And so actually probably a better quarter of my revenue, maybe
Speaker:even a little bit more than that.
Speaker:Is from that client base.
Speaker:That the benefit isn't just, you.
Speaker:There is a benefit to the client as well.
Speaker:So we certainly find this when we go up to the lakes and stay in
Speaker:the same place every single time.
Speaker:Um, because we know them.
Speaker:We know exactly what we're going to get.
Speaker:Any chair we go, we do sort of think, oh, I wonder what changes they have
Speaker:made to the hotel because they do continually invest as it was very
Speaker:interesting to see what they have done.
Speaker:But we know what we're getting.
Speaker:We know, and we trust and we feel really comfortable and competent when we go there
Speaker:that we are going to have a great holiday.
Speaker:Um, And.
Speaker:I think the other thing is that it's something we need.
Speaker:We have the competence to be able to ask for it.
Speaker:They know us as well.
Speaker:So that level of trust really works both ways.
Speaker:So, how do you get kids to come back?
Speaker:Well, the first thing, which is very obvious is to offer a good service.
Speaker:We clearly would not be going back.
Speaker:It's a surface was terrible.
Speaker:Uh, if it was something like a faulty towers or something like that.
Speaker:But we go back because every year the service is good
Speaker:and it's not just a service.
Speaker:It's great.
Speaker:It's the whole environment.
Speaker:And now not every single thing is amazing.
Speaker:I will be the first to say that, but the things that are important to us
Speaker:are, so we like, you know, Good food.
Speaker:We like friendly staff and frankly, You know, If it's not the, I
Speaker:dunno, the nicest biscuits on the nicest toiletries in the bathroom.
Speaker:Then we don't care so much about that.
Speaker:So it's a case of thinking about what is important to your clients.
Speaker:And making sure, especially the clients you want to come back, making sure
Speaker:that you focus on delivering that and doing that really, really well.
Speaker:So think about, say what it is for your clients that you can continually do.
Speaker:What's important to them.
Speaker:And that you can really focus on.
Speaker:Is it speed of service?
Speaker:Is it friendliness of service?
Speaker:Is it cost.
Speaker:Uh, what is it that they, that is important to them and that
Speaker:you can deliver really well on.
Speaker:The second thing.
Speaker:It's to build up a relationship with them.
Speaker:And there is no doubt about it that we have built.
Speaker:Very good relationship with the owners of this hotel.
Speaker:And the ownership has changed from the parents to.
Speaker:The daughter and her husband.
Speaker:Over the time that we have been there, it's a family run hotel.
Speaker:Um, and we have a very good relationship with them.
Speaker:We have a very good relationship with the staff.
Speaker:And there's a lady.
Speaker:Uh, one of the waitresses, she's quite senior waitress who has
Speaker:been there a number of years.
Speaker:And, you know, she obviously recognizes that.
Speaker:From year to year.
Speaker:And this year, she very sweetly, uh, my nephew who is very into his food.
Speaker:Uh, she, um, she gave him a pad of paper.
Speaker:And he took the orders one night and she got him to.
Speaker:You know, tech going to the kitchen and take the orders into the
Speaker:kitchen and then, uh, you know, sort out the cutlery and help set the
Speaker:table and those kinds of things.
Speaker:And that's because that relationship has been built up and she knows that
Speaker:he's really interested in his food and quite interested in the kitchen.
Speaker:And what goes on in a restaurant is only seven blessings.
Speaker:He's very, very interested in that.
Speaker:And so they actually, Nope.
Speaker:Took that, and it wasn't difficult for them to do.
Speaker:But because the relationship is there.
Speaker:They.
Speaker:Really made the most of that.
Speaker:So, and obviously that just warmed our hearts as well.
Speaker:, especially when she.
Speaker:You know, managed to find a Dicky bow for him to wear as
Speaker:he was waiting on our table.
Speaker:And that is the benefit of having a good relationship because we already have that
Speaker:great relationship, but . If we hadn't, it would have made us more likely to go back.
Speaker:So building up a really strong relationship with client.
Speaker:You want to make sure that you are their number one choice for whatever
Speaker:it is that you do, and they're not tempted to go anywhere else.
Speaker:That they will stick with you because they know that there is
Speaker:a very good relationship there.
Speaker:The third thing is.
Speaker:Making it easy for them.
Speaker:Make it easy for them to rebook.
Speaker:And this one.
Speaker:Is critical.
Speaker:So there is one year in the last something like 27 years.
Speaker:So they're two years in the last.
Speaker:About 27 years that we have not been to this hotel.
Speaker:One of which was COVID and the other was fairly early on and we hadn't rebooked.
Speaker:And when we came to book it, it was full.
Speaker:We couldn't get the rooms that we needed.
Speaker:So we ended up going elsewhere.
Speaker:Now, what we do now is when we go, we, as we're leaving, we rebook for next year.
Speaker:After we have impact booked for 2024.
Speaker:Already.
Speaker:And we are not an organized family.
Speaker:So that is something that is fairly unique to going there.
Speaker:But.
Speaker:Before your clients leave.
Speaker:Ask us.
Speaker:I want to rebook my hairdresser does this.
Speaker:My dentist does this.
Speaker:People are fairly used to it, but can rebook before they actually leave.
Speaker:Or even better.
Speaker:You could see whether you can book a block.
Speaker:So obviously it doesn't work with something like a hotel, but if you are.
Speaker:At yoga teacher or that massage therapist or whatever it might
Speaker:be, try and get people to book a block of, uh, sessions with you.
Speaker:Before they leave, maybe they have a trial one and then get them to book a block.
Speaker:And put the dates in the diary.
Speaker:So it's not just going back once, but it's coming back, you know, every two
Speaker:weeks, every week or whatever it might be.
Speaker:And my other personal experience of this is.
Speaker:I used to go to It's glass.
Speaker:And I booked for the whole term.
Speaker:I couldn't make every single week, but I booked for the whole term
Speaker:because that's what you had to do.
Speaker:And a new plot, a studio is open near me and.
Speaker:Needed just to say I've been going less often because he
Speaker:booked them one at a time.
Speaker:So I think, oh, well, I won't.
Speaker:I'm not going to book.
Speaker:Cause I don't know what I'm doing next week.
Speaker:If I had booked a block and I knew I booked for every single week,
Speaker:I'd be much more likely to go.
Speaker:Then as is currently the case where I go really quite sporadically.
Speaker:The third thing.
Speaker:Sorry, the full thing can't count today.
Speaker:Which is related to that is providing an offer that is attractive to them.
Speaker:So it may be that you gave some kind of a discount for block booking.
Speaker:It may be that by booking straight away, they can get the time
Speaker:that they actually want to get.
Speaker:Or it may be that you offer some kind of loyalty bonus.
Speaker:It doesn't have to be financial.
Speaker:It could be something.
Speaker:Additional that they might get for being a loyal client.
Speaker:But again, it's a case of thinking about what is going to make or persuade
Speaker:somebody who is an existing client.
Speaker:Come back again.
Speaker:What it is that you can offer.
Speaker:And the final point really?
Speaker:Is to follow up.
Speaker:So it may be that they don't book straight away.
Speaker:But you can email them.
Speaker:Or message them.
Speaker:Text message DM over social media.
Speaker:And just drops them a note asking if they'd like to rebook and it might
Speaker:be that you, again, there is some kind of incentive for rebooking.
Speaker:So you might say that I'm getting quite booked up for the next month.
Speaker:If they would like a session.
Speaker:Um, it might be that you offer some kind of a, again, a loyalty bonus.
Speaker:Um, but reminding them of the benefit of coming back to you.
Speaker:Is key here.
Speaker:So don't be afraid to follow up.
Speaker:I know, you know, I get regular reminders from quite a few services
Speaker:that I have used in the past.
Speaker:Seeing if I want to book again, it might be my obsessions telling me
Speaker:that I am due for another appointment.
Speaker:Or something like that.
Speaker:And usually they go unread in my inbox.
Speaker:Together with lots of other emails, which are in my personal
Speaker:inbox and it, my business inbox.
Speaker:Um, but the fact that they are continually reminding me
Speaker:means I will eventually rebook.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:There are certain services that I use, which I know that
Speaker:I'm overdue and appointment.
Speaker:And I will eventually book, but if they hadn't been reminding me.
Speaker:On a monthly or quarterly basis.
Speaker:Then I would be much more likely to forget.
Speaker:And I suspect the same applies to you as well.
Speaker:So don't be afraid to follow up with people and see whether
Speaker:they want to, to rebook.
Speaker:And I'd say it depends upon the relationship that you have with them.
Speaker:As duke, which is the most important.
Speaker:Appropriate platform to do that.
Speaker:Is it doing it via email, which is, can be fairly impersonal.
Speaker:Um, you could just email all clients in one go.
Speaker:Obviously that's assuming that you have the approval from them
Speaker:to market to them in that way.
Speaker:Or it could just be a very personal DM to somebody that,
Speaker:you know, that is a real one-off.
Speaker:And I know quite a lot of people who have had a lot of success in giving that.
Speaker:So that's it fairly short and sweet this week?
Speaker:But I just want to run through the five ways you can retain
Speaker:clients, uh, briefly again.
Speaker:And so the first is to offer a good service, which is obviously
Speaker:pretty self-explanatory.
Speaker:But it's a case of thinking in particular about the parts of your
Speaker:service, which are important to.
Speaker:Any key to your ideal clients?
Speaker:The second is to build up a relationship with them.
Speaker:You want to be trusted and you want to be liked by them.
Speaker:And you want to be then number one choice to go to for
Speaker:whatever service it is that you.
Speaker:Uh, provide.
Speaker:The third is to provide is to make it easy for them to rebook.
Speaker:Um, either by doing it.
Speaker:On the day or, um, just generally making it easy for them to rebook.
Speaker:The force is to provide an offer that they will like, and that may incentivize them,
Speaker:or motivate them to rebook either to make sure that they get the best availability
Speaker:or alternatively, it might be a financial.
Speaker:Uh, benefits to booking, for example, at block.
Speaker:Or it might be some kind of a loyalty bonus.
Speaker:And the final way is to follow up, say, do not be afraid to follow up.
Speaker:So that's it for this week, fairly short and sweet.
Speaker:And if you want to know the name of the hotel that I stay
Speaker:in, in the lake district.
Speaker:If you are looking to go up there, then.
Speaker:Feel free to DM me.
Speaker:I'm on Instagram at, beyond the KT, or send me an email, say hello
Speaker:at, beyond the kitchen table.co.uk.
Speaker:And if you're enjoying this podcast, then feel free to
Speaker:drop me a note and let me know.
Speaker:I always like to hear from people who listen.
Speaker:And I will see you again next week.
Speaker:Have a great week everybody.
Speaker:And don't forget to try and retain existing clients.