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Episode 331st November 2021 • The Best 5 Minute Wine Podcast • Forrest Kelly
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Breaking news.......Think about this, if you had the first bottle of wine ever commercially produced in America. Like, what would that bottle be worth? That bottle would be in the Smithsonian? Here it is the very first bottle ever produced in America or in France or in Australia or wherever. That's the first bottle that would be important. We missed the mark by hundreds of years in most countries, but I'm doing that. I'm going to make the first bottle, so I want to. The very first thing that we're going to do is make one barrel, which will be the first barrel, and then we're going to bottle those wines in a special bottle and kind of sell those to collectors who want to have a piece of the first barrel ever produced in a country of wine, which I think is kind of cool. First of all, I want to thank you for that breaking news. I think that's a great idea to plan that out, and it just might be lucrative for you as well, because looking at some of the most expensive wines sold. You've got charity cases, sometimes half a million dollars French wine, a bottle, a single bottle, three hundred thousand plus. Do you have any idea who might be interested in buying the first case or the first wine from the country of Bhutan? I would guess it would be places like, you know, the Wine Museum and Adelaide Australia. You know, people who the collectors like the Koch brothers, I don't know if they would be interested or not, but you know, the Koch brothers have historically bought interesting bottles of wine like, you know, the famous fake Thomas Jefferson bottles and so on and so forth. So I think it would be one of those wines that you would not open, right? You would say. But obviously, the very first bottle we would probably give to the first few bottles in the series would probably go to the country itself for them to save and posterity sake and their museums. I wanted to ask you about the highest elevation, where some countries and vineyards profess that they have the highest. Reminds me of a question from Alice of Muskogee, Oklahoma, who's a listener to the podcast, and she asked, I'm interested in knowing how different grapes and different grow based on different climates and different altitudes, and how that affects the different quality of wine produced. That's a good question. So what is your take on focusing on the elevation, not focusing on the elevation? So there's a huge debate about that. The Argentineans would say they've got the tallest. There's one in Tibet. It's about 11,000 feet. They would say that they've got the tallest. There's a lot of arguments about it. I could definitely have the tallest vineyard, the highest altitude vineyard in the world if I want it very easily. To me, I think that's sort of like a gimmick. And my goal is to not do gimmicky stuff. My goal is to try to capture the beauty of Bhutan in a wine bottle and share it with the world. And if that happens to align with the perfect plot at 13,000 feet, I would plant it in a heartbeat. But I don't. I don't think that it will. We've got the tallest. Yeah, like, we'll leave that to the people who want to do that sort of gimmicky marketing stuff. But hey, you know, we're still dialing things in and figuring out what works well where. So we may find that there's an awesome ice wine vineyard that we can plant Vidal at 13,000 feet and makes this glorious ice wine. And if so, then yeah, I'll do it, but not because it's high. Thank you for listening. I'm Forrest Kelly. This episode of The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast was produced by IHYSM. If you like the show, please tell your friends and pets and subscribe. Until next time pour the wine and ponder your next adventure.

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Welcome to The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast, I'm your host, Forrest Kelly, from the seed

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to the glass wine has a past.

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Our aim at The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast is to look for adventure at wineries around

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the globe. After all, grape minds think alike.

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Let's start the adventure.

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Our featured winery is, we conclude our interview with Michael Juergens, who was bringing

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the first vineyard to the Kingdom of Bhutan.

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So you've been working on this project for some time now?

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Michael, where are we in the time frame of getting your product into the bottle?

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Well, so if we make our first bottling next summer, then the whites would be available

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kind of early 2023 and the reds would be available kind of mid-2023.

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We don't necessarily know exactly how the wines are going to shape out, though, so we may

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want to do more experimental fermentation like micro ferments the first year just to get

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a sense of how the grapes are developing different vineyards.

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So best-case scenario you know whites will be available in about 18 months.

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Worst case 30 months.

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I actually have a really cool idea, and I haven't shared this with anybody yet, so we'll

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break it live on here on your podcast.

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Oh, wow. Never had breaking news before.

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Ok, hang on a second, Michael.

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Let me find my breaking news sound effect?

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Where is it? Ok, here we go.

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Breaking news.

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Think about this, if you had the first bottle of wine ever commercially produced in

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America. Like, what would that bottle be worth?

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That bottle would be in the Smithsonian?

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Here it is the very first bottle ever produced in America or in France or in Australia or

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wherever. That's the first bottle would be important.

Speaker:

We missed the mark by hundreds of years in most countries, but I'm doing that.

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I'm going to make the first bottle, so I want to.

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The very first thing that we're going to do is make one barrel, which will be the first

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barrel, and then we're going to bottle those wines in a special bottle and kind of sell

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those to collectors who want to have a piece of the first barrel ever produced in a

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country of wine, which I think is kind of cool.

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First of all, I want to thank you for that breaking news.

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I think that's a great idea to plan that out, and it just might be lucrative for you as

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well, because looking at some of the most expensive wines sold.

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You've got charity cases, sometimes half a million dollars French wine, a bottle, a

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single bottle, three hundred thousand plus.

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Do you have any idea who might be interested in buying the first case or the first wine

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from the country of Bhutan?

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I would guess it would be places like, you know, the Wine Museum and Adelaide Australia.

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You know, people who the collectors like the Koch brothers, I don't know if they would be

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interested or not, but you know, the Koch brothers have historically bought interesting

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bottles of wine like, you know, the famous fake Thomas Jefferson bottles and so on and so

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forth. So I think it would be one of those wines that you would not open, right?

Speaker:

You would say. But obviously, the very first bottle we would probably give to the first

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few bottles in the series would probably go to the country itself for them to save and

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posterity sake and their museums.

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I wanted to ask you about the highest elevation, where some countries and vineyards

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profess that they have the highest.

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Reminds me of a question from Alice of Muskogee, Oklahoma, who's a listener to the

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podcast, and she asked, I'm interested in knowing how different grapes and different grow

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based on different climates and different altitudes, and how that affects the different

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quality of wine produced.

Speaker:

That's a good question.

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So what is your take on focusing on the elevation, not focusing on the elevation?

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So there's a huge debate about that.

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The Argentineans would say they've got the tallest.

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There's one in Tibet.

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It's about eleven thousand feet.

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They would say that they've got the tallest.

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There's a lot of arguments about it.

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I could definitely have the tallest vineyard, the highest altitude vineyard in the world

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if I want it very easily.

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To me, I think that's sort of like a gimmick.

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And my goal is to not do gimmicky stuff.

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My goal is to try to capture the beauty of Bhutan in a wine bottle and share it with the

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world. And if that happens to align with the perfect plot at 13,000 feet, I would plant

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it in a heartbeat. But I don't.

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I don't think that it will.

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We've got the tallest.

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Yeah, like, we'll leave that to the people who want to do that sort of gimmicky marketing

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stuff. But hey, you know, we're still dialing things in and figuring out what works well

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where. So we may find that there's an awesome ice wine vineyard that we can plant Vidal

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at 13,000 feet and makes this glorious ice wine.

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And if so, then yeah, I'll do it, but not because it's high.

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Thank you for listening.

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I'm Forrest Kelley.

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This episode of The Best Five Minute Wine Podcast was produced by IHYSM.

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If you like the show, please tell your friends and pets and subscribe.

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