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Another Word for Paradise (with Serious Rap Sh*t's John Morrison and Josh Leidy)
Episode 57 • 6th March 2024 • Hip Hop Movie Club • Hip Hop Movie Club
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What makes India a burgeoning hot spot for hip hop? HHMC is joined by the hosts of the Serious Rap Shit podcast John Morrison and Josh Leidy to find out. John and Josh are the filmmakers behind the "Another Word for Paradise" film - a documentary following Indian American rapper and best-selling author Lush Life on tour in his homeland.

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Topics discussed:

  • John and Josh talk to us about how this project with Raj Haldar a.k.a. "Lush Life" came together
  • the illness that denied John the opportunity to go to India at the last minute
  • how American audiences can relate to the Indian hip hop scene and its scene-makers
  • how the trip changed all three of them

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Credits

Many thanks to Josh and John for coming on the show!

Hip Hop Movie Club is produced by your HHMCs JB, BooGie, and DynoWright. Theme music by BooGie. Follow @hiphopmovieclub on Instagram!

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Speaker:

Welcome to Hip Hop Movie Club,

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the show that harmonizes the rhythm of hip

hop with the magic of movies.

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We're thrilled to put all that together

to vibe on these films for you.

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I'm DynoWright, podcaster,

filmmaker, long time Hip-Hop

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fan, and I was hyped to attend our guests

event a couple weeks ago.

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On the history of sampling.

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JB Eighties and nineties

Nostalgia junkie, longtime hip hop fan

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and I was just recently turned on

to Indian rapper Brodha V

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by a coworker who lives in Noida, India.

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Yo, I'm BooGie, a deejay, long time

hip hop fan.

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And at the time of this recording,

I'm so hype for tomorrow night's

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in-person event.

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We're doing a in-person screening

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of the classic film

Juice, followed by a talkback with us.

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You around, check it out.

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Today we have the special honor

to speak with the co-hosts

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of the Serious Rap Shit podcast,

Philly guys John Morrison and Josh Leidy.

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(Bring it, c’mon!)

Josh joined Raj Haldar, a.k.a.

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rapper Lush Life on a pilgrimage

back to his family's homeland of India

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to document the hip hop culture

throughout the nation there.

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Their result:

an engrossing documentary to share

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with the world

called Another Word for Paradise.

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In this episode, we'll answer the question

Why is India one of the next

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big spots for hip hop?

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(Bring it! C’mon!) All right.

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Welcome, guys.

Thank you for joining us today.

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Appreciate you.

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Yeah, thank you for having us. Of course.

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So first question I have and

you guys can take turns or what have you.

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How did this trip to India come about?

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Like,

who had the idea for the documentary?

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Was it Raj's idea? Lush Life.

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Are you guys tight with him?

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You want to kick it off?

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Josh or John You wanna go?

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Either one, doesn’t matter.

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You can go, bro. So, yeah.

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Lush Life.

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Raj is a very good friend of ours.

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It's funny because Josh and

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I were actually fans of his music

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before we became friends, and

he was a really big fan of our podcast.

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So he got booked to do a tour in India.

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He'd never performed there.

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His parents are from India,

and he approached us with this idea

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like, Yo,

Josh can fill in some more details here.

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But basically, Raj approached us like, Yo,

why don't we do a tour documentary?

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Why, When I go over here to India to

to perform these series of concerts?

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Yeah,

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basically he was doing a set of shows

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for there was there's a beer company

out of India called Bira,

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and they were doing an April Fools fest.

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So like, they were doing a set of tour

stops that led up to this big

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festival on April 1st.

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And so basically, he he approached us

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middle of February

or something of:

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literally the text was like, Hey,

do you guys want to go do

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a documentary in India

and go shoot a documentary in India?

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And we were like,

No, like, no, I have no interest in it.

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Doesn't make sense. I get those texts

all the time, so annoying!

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But mind you,

we had not made films before.

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Right?

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We've never done anything like this.

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We, we, we were only like we had done

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we had only been doing the podcast

for a little over a year.

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We started toward the end of 2016.

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So it was February of 2018

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when we got asked and I,

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we were like,

Yeah, let's let's, let's do it.

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And so we were like in the

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we started like doing like a shit

ton of research and like, I'd be like

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watching like we didn't know

if we were going to be shooting it.

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Like we had no idea of any, like.

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We just were like,

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first of all, like,

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who doesn’t say yes to that,

that opportunity, right?

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Like, I've never been.

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I've never been anywhere.

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Like,

the furthest I've been is Puerto Rico.

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So I've like, I've never been

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any where,

like really outside of the United States.

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So there was absolutely nothing in me

that was like,

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yeah, no, I don't want to do that.

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Like, it was like. I pass.

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I didn't

Have a passport, We didn't have passports.

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In all fairness, like I had a passport.

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Mine was expired though.

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I had no, but I was like,

what was I going, I get it.

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I mean, I was a hooligan from Philly,

so I, I had really we were.

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So that was February.

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We left the trip left at the end of March.

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So like, we had like a like six weeks

essentially to, like,

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get the stuff prepared.

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Nowadays

you can't get a passport that quick

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because we travel, it's like three month

minimum.

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We've got to pay it at Crazy Premium.

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You guys maybe.

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But we had, we were very lucky.

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Yeah.

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That the beer company

was like footing the bill for all of this.

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So they, like, rushed our visas

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and rushed our, like passports.

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They were able to like,

put a rush on things.

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Hired a film crew, one ground

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in India

to tour around and shoot this whole thing.

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Yeah, because it would have been us

with, like, camcorders of.

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Yeah, like, figure it out.

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They had a film crew that we met with

when we landed.

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We met.

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Well, so then to, like, lead up to

the process, do you want to start telling.

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Yeah, I can jump in here.

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So we get the text from Raj,

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we sit down and we talk about it

and we're like, Yeah, let's do it.

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Let's go shoot a documentary in India.

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This is February.

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I'm also I start

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feeling like a little sick,

like I got the flu

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and I'm like, Man,

this flu, it won't like, shake me.

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Flu turns into, like, a headache.

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It's like a persistent headache.

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And I'm like, Man, this headache is like,

really, like, beat me down.

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Even if you look at my passport photo

I won’t show you...

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But if you look at.

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My photo, I look like dead in the eyes

because I was like, sick as a dog

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trying to get this passport

so we can go to India.

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So maybe two weeks, I think before we were

supposed to be on a plane.

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I'm sitting in my house

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and my fiancee is like looking at me

and she's like, yo,

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she's like, talk to me.

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Like, I'm like, we wanna talk about

she's like tell me

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about like a TV show

that you that you like.

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And mind you,

this is after a couple weeks of like,

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a persistent headache, Like, I'm like,

I went to emergency.

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They didn't do anything.

Sent me back home.

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So we're sitting in the house

and she's looking at me.

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She asks me to to just talk to her.

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So I'm talking.

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I'm like talking about Atlanta

because I think Atlanta season two

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was about to come out. Yeah, Yeah.

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I'm talking about yeah, I'm

talking to her about Atlanta.

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I'm like, Yo,

I'm excited about all of this show.

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And I think that I'm talking to her

like I'm talking with y'all.

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But apparently what was coming out

was gobbledygook.

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So long story short,

I had viral meningitis.

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So now my brain, my spine was inflamed

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and my brain was swollen, essentially. And

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she looks at me, she's

like, we got to go to the hospital now.

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So we are

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I kind of like

make my way down the stairs.

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And then from there

everything gets like real foggy.

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So long story short, I was in the hospital

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swollen brain, collapsed lung,

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hallucinations, weeks of hallucinations.

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Josh was there.

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He remember I was out of my f--king mind.

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Just as you know

what happens with meningitis sometimes.

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And I came to,

like, came out of all of that stuff,

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and I was in the hospital, and my legs

didn't work, so

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Long story short,

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I had to rehab, you know what I'm saying?

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And it's crazy because at one point

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I'm still a little wonky,

like I'm still hallucinating a little bit.

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I'm still a little bit out of it.

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And I remember talking to one of the neuro

doctors, and I'm like, Yo, my man,

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I'm supposed to go to India in a week,

Can I get my shots here?

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And they're looking at me like, you

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ain’t goin’ to no f--king India, You know,

you're not going anywhere.

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So, you know,

long story short, I did end up rehab in

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a lot of the episodes.

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We took a long break.

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Josh had to go to India. I had to rehab.

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But even like, some of those,

like, post break

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episodes, I'm in a wheelchair

while we're recording that.

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You know what I mean?

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It was a long process

to like, relearn how to walk,

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you know, something

I hadn't done since I was a baby.

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I want to learn how to walk.

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It's like it was really like an ordeal.

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And that kept me from going to India.

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So Josh and Raj went, rocked it out,

brought the footage back

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and literally

we were sitting in my mom's living room

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going through footage

and I'm just in a wheelchair.

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Josh got to help me into the bathroom.

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My mom had to bathe me.

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It was it was crazy.

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It was it was absolutely crazy.

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But, you know, it it it ended up

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being the film that it was

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destined to be because all of that stuff,

it happened.

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Yeah.

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So I think one thing people should know

is, like,

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me and John have been friends

for almost 30 years.

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We've known each other

longer than we haven’t. ‘95?

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Yeah, something like that.

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Yeah.

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So we've known each other

for a very long time.

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So me and him have been best friends

for a very long time.

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So March 2nd was the day

he went into the hospital.

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I got a phone call from his

from his fiancee that morning.

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I was just coming off shift.

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I know it was March 2nd

because it was my son's birthday

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and I was taking him to a Sixers game

that night.

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So I remember like that, I know.

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I remember the day

I remember the phone call.

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She called me and she was like, he's

not making sense da-da da-da.

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And I was like,

All right, well, take him to the hospital.

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I'm going to go home and take a nap and

then I'll get up before I go get my son.

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I'll come to the hospital.

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I had no idea how bad that

was going to be and stuff.

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And it was scary.

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It was scary.

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Like obviously with like John's health,

like it was it was bad.

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It was like he said hallucinations.

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Like I in a room talk at all.

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But we're talking about stuff

that's not in the room and stuff.

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So like, it would it was it was crazy.

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And John, at that point, like,

like now I am a like a, you know, a writer

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and I do interviews on a regular now

and stuff at that point you're talking

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six years ago

now, I had never wrote anything.

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I had never asked the question

in an interview.

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We didn't do interviews on the podcast. So

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that was a thing I did.

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John was the journalist.

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John's the one who's the writer.

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He's the one

who's like the brain of the inspiration.

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I'm more of like the the muscle of. ...

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But he's, you know, it was

it was really scary, the idea that,

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like, you know, we're doing something

I've never done before.

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It was a lot more comfortable to do it

with my best friend.

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Like, All right, well,

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it'll be me and him doing it together

so if we look like idiots.

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We look like idiots together.

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Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's crazy.

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So, wait, before we left to go shoot,

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John had got better,

like you said, about a week before,

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like, really started to come around

mentally, everything like that.

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And I still at that point was like,

I don't know if I feel good

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leaving to do this.

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And he's not with me

because, like, we're doing this together.

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This is our thing together.

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We started our

our media group Culture Cypher

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Media together, and like,

this is our thing.

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How can...I can't go by myself?

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I really felt that way.

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I felt really weird about going

without him.

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And I asked him before we left, I was

like, you know, you can testify to this.

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I was like, Yo, is it cool if I go like,

Do you think it's okay?

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And he told me, like, you have to, like,

I got to go.

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Yeah, yeah.

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He was like, I can't go. Like,

what are you not going to go?

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Like, you have to go do

it for us because I can't go.

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And there's

a scene in the in the documentary

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that I feel like really

it was important to me.

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There's a scene

where I'm tagging a wall in Bangalore

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and like it says John and Josh SRS.

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I saw that like, yeah.

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And for me it was important.

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Like I, I he was there with us

through the whole thing,

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you know, and I mean, and like,

it was impossible.

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I couldn't like my phone was like a brick.

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It was a camera essentially in, in India.

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I had no, like I didn’t

have international calling so like

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I was sending emails back and forth

to like family and friends

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of checking on John

through email and stuff

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and like trying to send some stuff

back to them

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and like when I came back,

I had to like when I came back

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he had been released from the hospital

and he was in the rehab at that point.

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And like I came to the rehab

when I got home, like, look,

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like this is like the stuff that we shot.

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But I like sharing

all that information with them.

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And it was really important for me,

like I us that he's he, he was there

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for this like, as much as like

I could make him there for it, you know?

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And I mean.

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That's amazing story.

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Thank goodness

you made the full recovery. And,

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you know, it all turned out as as it did.

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Yeah. Yeah.

And then thanks for sharing that.

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Yeah.

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We're I mean, not to like, spoiling it.

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We're working on a new documentary.

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And then when we went to go shoot

one of the first days to shoot

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the new documentary I had had

I had a couple back surgeries

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a couple of years ago

and on the second back surgery ended up

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getting an infection from it

like bacteria, like a bacterial infection.

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And I had to have an emergency surgery

because I had Klebsiella

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and that shit can like kill you, or like,

paralyze.

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Yeah, Yeah.

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And like,

I've literally said to John, like,

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we really have to, like,

stop making documentaries.

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And we’re like.

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And then have, like, life altering

situations happening every time

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we get ready to start a new movie project.

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This might not be the lane for us.

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Is God talking to us?

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Like, is God saying like,

you guys aren’t supposed to do this?

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I Don't make any movies.

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Yeah, I've got signs in a whole other way.

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But like, this one is really standing out.

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You're really suffering for your art.

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Yeah, right, Right. Yes.

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Yes. Crazy.

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Maybe John had to do a solo.

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Now it was his turn to do the solo voyage.

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Yeah, well, he did.

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He went and shot

while I was in the hospital.

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He went to shoot,

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Shoot stuff while I was in the hospital

like a one thing that I really love is

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and I guess this is comes

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from a situation of like me

and him being friends for so long, right?

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We are

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we we will like.

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Yes. That’s

my brother for real like I like

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I've known him more than half my life.

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Like I've known him more than

I've known him like I haven't known him.

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Right. So for me, it's like, no.

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Like if I'm down, he's

there to take it up.

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If I'm like, That's just how

we're going to always, we’re gonna rock.

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And we're really good at like,

filling in each other's like

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bad spots, like, you know, and I mean,

which I think makes a good team.

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Yeah, definitely.

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So now

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going back to the hip hop

culture in India,

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what what was your biggest takeaway

if you had to just

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condense it into

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small one statement, few words or so,

like what's your biggest takeaway

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that you took from that trip about hip hop

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culture

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Admiration.

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There

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Not as much now, but

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like six years ago when we shot this,

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it was so infantile.

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It was still very small, like to put

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like they didn't have like you didn't

get like hip hop played on the radio.

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They are really

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there wasn't that kind of scene there.

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There it was just starting like, it's a

hip hop night on like a Tuesday, you know?

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And I mean, like it was it's

kind of it was just starting.

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But I admired like

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what they had to learn.

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We interview a rapper in there

Prab Deep in the documentary

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and it's I don't know if it's I don't know

if it me I don't remember

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if it made the documentary.

I don't think it did.

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But he talked to me about

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one of the first

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like exposures to hip hop for him was

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the 8 Mile movie.

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Is crazy to me. Yeah.

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So like they had they had just like,

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just started

really like learning the culture.

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So the culture was still really new,

like dance culture there.

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Like there was the dance culture,

but like the emceeing and like the

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producing beats and all that kind of stuff

is still very, very much in its infancy.

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And so I admired like,

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man, like you guys have.

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So like I,

I'm going to be able to watch this scene

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completely grow from the ground up.

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We there's we talked to Mo

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Joshi in the documentary

and he mentions like,

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you know, and I'm seeing it now is like

because I'm still very much like

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I still have contact

with like the crew and stuff like that

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and follow people from over there

that we interacted with.

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So like, I see now like,

you know, a rapper like Prab Deep

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then has now like his like four records

or five records out

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like,

you know, in the six years and stuff.

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And that was like we had,

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he had just dropped his first record

when we were interviewing.

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He was touring it. So

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he, like

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Mo Joshi in the documentary, says like,

you know,

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a Divine, a Raja Kumari, Prab Deep, like

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they're going to be the rappers

that like the little kids

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that are trying to do it now.

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They're looking up to them.

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And it was really dope to see like a Raja

Kumari

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and a Divine who we didn’t interview,

but he was at

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the April Fools Fest.

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He like, they're signed to Mass Appeal now

and he you know what I mean?

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Like they're going to be the people

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that, like

the younger artists are looking up to.

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And now they're going to continue

to make more of their music.

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And like Mo Joshi’s

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Azadi records that Prab Deep is on

is like ten artists deep now.

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Nice. That's amazing.

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That's cool. Yeah. Yeah.

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And it was like It was their infancy.

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was two when we interviewed them.

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So yeah, it's really like it's,

it's grown so much.

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And that's what I really was like, man.

390

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Like,

you guys are like going to build your own,

391

:

like real culture

and it's going to be so dope to like,

392

:

we would love to go back and experience

it now.

393

:

Seems so changed. Yeah, yeah.

394

:

That's awesome.

395

:

That's a good segue.

396

:

My next question is like, so you said,

397

:

I want them to see

now they're growing a little bit.

398

:

How do we put that in perspective

in American terms?

399

:

Like are they like in the early nineties

of hip hop, you we've had 50 years.

400

:

If you talk about 73 being the origin,

401

:

they're probably in that range like

all right there.

402

:

Yeah, yeah, probably like early

403

:

early nineties mid-nineties era.

404

:

Like that's

probably what era they're going into.

405

:

But I also think it's

406

:

so different now because of like,

407

:

like their exposure is so different,

right?

408

:

Like the way hip hop traveled when we were

kids is not how hip hop travels now.

409

:

And yeah. Yeah.

410

:

So the harmony,

the homogeneity of like of monoculture

411

:

is so prevalent that I,

412

:

I think they have essentially skipped

a lot of levels, right.

413

:

Because because of the ability to like,

you know, like

414

:

so me and John, when we were kids

we rapped in

415

:

like John made beats, I didn’t but like,

you know what I mean?

416

:

Like we we're part

of the culture, right? So

417

:

if we

418

:

wanted to record, you had to know

somebody who had like a microphone

419

:

and ability to actually record you.

420

:

Now, like any kid

421

:

with a phone can do it,

you know what I mean?

422

:

And that's awesome.

423

:

That's that's great because it gives

424

:

a democracy of like

425

:

availability of just like anybody

can do these kind of things now, right?

426

:

So I think they were able to skip a lot.

427

:

Like if you look at like videos

from artists from India, like they look

428

:

just as good as videos here

because like they have the same ability

429

:

to like shoot and do this stuff where,

430

:

you know, artists like,

especially like in our time

431

:

because like one thing

like, as, as Americans,

432

:

I think it's very easy to just be like,

well, like

433

:

India is like a like one

434

:

one thing like is India as opposed

to, like,

435

:

like with Prab like Prab’s from Mumbai.

436

:

So like,

he has his thing, like his whole style.

437

:

He's Sikh.

438

:

So like, there's, like,

there's a difference to him

439

:

compared to a Divine who's from Delhi and

440

:

it's a different there's just different

culture.

441

:

It's very similar to like,

you know, Chicago, New York or Philly.

442

:

A million people.

443

:

Yeah, Yeah.

444

:

You know, and that's the thing too,

where like, they're,

445

:

they are the numbers of like people

that were listening to hip hop

446

:

then compared to what the numbers are

now, are just astronomical.

447

:

Yeah, it's almost like you wish

you could buy stock in Indian hip hop.

448

:

Like, I know that.

449

:

There's,

there's There's such a market, right?

450

:

Like, there's, like

John says there's a billion people there.

451

:

Like what?

452

:

What you can, the fraction

that you have to hit to like

453

:

do really well

compared to like what our market would be,

454

:

you know what I mean

it is completely different

455

:

and I think there's

456

:

I definitely think there's a

457

:

an aspect that like they were so

458

:

so able to like jump

459

:

like jump levels

460

:

they were able to hit

what was the the Mario shit

461

:

the, the, the world skips or whatever.

462

:

You able to do a lot of that because

of like technology, you know what I mean.

463

:

Yeah. And there's not...

464

:

Yeah. Warp zones. Yeah.

465

:

There's not that in like

466

:

the present day landscape, there's not

467

:

that reliance on labels,

you know what I mean?

468

:

In order to, to distribute music,

even even the,

469

:

the steps that you need to take from,

470

:

you know, an idea to market

471

:

have been like a lot of that stuff's

been cut out.

472

:

You know what I mean?

473

:

You know, I remember

reading The Source magazine and people

474

:

talking about meeting A&R’s on the street,

you know what I'm saying?

475

:

Like an A&R,

476

:

you know,

477

:

showing up at a club or a show

and here to emcee.

478

:

And you got to, you know,

479

:

they got to take that rapper to their boss

and get a demo budget approved.

480

:

And then you got to,

481

:

you know, record the demo

and then you got to get that approved.

482

:

Then you got to do a single deal

and then maybe you do an album deal.

483

:

That stuff is not a thing anymore.

484

:

Even on major labels,

that that process has been

485

:

greatly

486

:

expediated out of this.

487

:

The word I want to say,

but it's sped up that process.

488

:

So when you're doing it

independently, it's is doubly sped up

489

:

because you don't have any,

you know, gatekeepers or anything

490

:

you any corporation

that you have to go through right.

491

:

So, Josh, you kind of read my mind.

492

:

Well, I was going to ask next

493

:

in the documentary, you went to three main

areas, Bangalore, which was described

494

:

as like a Silicon Valley of India, Mumbai,

495

:

you talked about with Prab Deep

and then New Delhi.

496

:

So you said the styles of hip

hop are different in all areas.

497

:

And is that just because there's different

either languages or dialects?

498

:

I guess, yeah.

499

:

There's, I think, over 100 dialects

spoken in India.

500

:

I think I could be wrong on that,

or it may be higher.

501

:

There's a ton of dialects.

502

:

I want to be really respectful

because I'm not like, Yeah,

503

:

I'm not like a master, right?

504

:

But yeah, so it's just regional, right?

505

:

Like there's,

506

:

like Bangalore when we So

Bangalore is the first city we went to.

507

:

That's the,

the documentary is essentially cut

508

:

like just essentially cut the same way

we did the trip.

509

:

It's we did we did that.

510

:

You know, it's linear. Linear,

I guess. That's right. Right. Yeah.

511

:

Yeah. Linear.

512

:

So I just basically just because

esthetically I want to cut it

513

:

where we were, where different clothes

in different light, different

514

:

like I don't know, like for me visually

that would have like threw me off.

515

:

The film follows. The trip as it.

516

:

Yeah. You filmed it in sequence.

517

:

Yes. Yeah.

518

:

And it's edited a little out.

519

:

Like there's a couple of things

that happen in different orders

520

:

and stuff like that, but like the

the cities are done the same way.

521

:

So Bangalore was the first city we went to

and it's like we were there

522

:

and like a Tuesday night and we were like,

Hey, let's like go out,

523

:

get drinks and like,

you know, enjoy the night, enjoy the town.

524

:

And they were like, It's Tuesday in Bangalore. Dude like there's nothing happening.

525

:

Like, it is A closed city.

526

:

Like this isn’t a party city.

Mumbai is a party city.

527

:

You go to Mumbai

there’s like we were at like this.

528

:

What's...”God's Plan” had first dropped.

529

:

Drake's “God’s Plan”

and we went to some club in Mumbai

530

:

that had like sand floors,

531

:

like beach, Like it was a beach.

532

:

It was insane.

533

:

Like it was full of like, models.

534

:

I have like,

did not belong in this place, but.

535

:

Like, leer bar or was that the other?

536

:

No, that was not the leer bar.

The leer bar was back. So.

537

:

So I will tell this story. Okay.

538

:

John brings up the leer bar.

539

:

Okay.

540

:

A leer bar is essentially a

is like a version of a strip club.

541

:

It's like a sanitized version

of a strip club.

542

:

The first night we were there,

we asked the where everything was

543

:

and they were like, there is no party.

544

:

There's there's a there's a bar down

the street called Rough Riders.

545

:

And next door

there is a like a diner type thing.

546

:

And you can go like, get something to eat.

547

:

And they go to there, go there

and they get something to eat.

548

:

You get some drinks at the bar.

549

:

So we're like all right,

We go down to Rough Riders, we walk.

550

:

It was we're walking up.

551

:

There's just like a bunch of dudes

hanging outside

552

:

and we're like,

What is this place like, this is weird.

553

:

We go in and it's dark

554

:

and there's just really loud

music and like, we walk in that

555

:

there's like a dance floor

kind of in the middle of the floor

556

:

and then like a, like a gate essentially,

like around that floor.

557

:

And then there were some seats along there

where you could sit in along the floor.

558

:

And then outside the gate

there was like stand up bar tables.

559

:

So we just like post up at the bar tables

in in the middle of the floor.

560

:

There's a bunch of like 20

something year old women

561

:

in some of them in saris

and then some of them in

562

:

just like nightclub clothes, like

563

:

just out on the town

and they're just dancing.

564

:

And as you start to, like, coordinate,

565

:

you go, It's just a bunch of

old men sitting around here,

566

:

old men standing around too.

567

:

Looking and leering.

568

:

Yes! It's. So.

569

:

As our guide for the trip.

570

:

Deepak, he was a dope dude.

571

:

Shout out to Deepak. He was

572

:

he worked for Bira and he was like,

573

:

my God, I think this is a leer bar.

574

:

And we're like, What's that?

575

:

And he's like, It's like a conservative

version of a strip club.

576

:

Like older people come in here,

like the older uncles come in here

577

:

and watch the young girls dance,

and you can tip them like when they come.

578

:

You you have to give the security money.

579

:

He gives you back money

580

:

from the hotel that it was, right?

581

:

And it said like Rough Riders Hotel.

582

:

Like Rough Riders use only like a hotel

use only or something like that.

583

:

But you you get that and then you could

throw that onto the girls and stuff.

584

:

And so,

like, we're in there and we're like,

585

:

All right, well, if we're here,

we're going to have a good time.

586

:

There's nobody touching anybody.

587

:

It was a fairly respectful and shit.

588

:

So we're just like having a good time.

589

:

And girls

kept coming over and looking at me,

590

:

partially

because tattoos are not huge in India.

591

:

Like tattoo culture isn't real big

592

:

and big, bushy

beards are not like, really like it.

593

:

So the combination was like,

really like weird to them.

594

:

Like, where are you from?

595

:

Yes, there was

very much that kind of thing.

596

:

So we're

597

:

like, Wow, this is like a weird vibe

or whatever, But whatever.

598

:

We're in India, we're having a good time.

We're going to enjoy it.

599

:

We go next door, we go get some food.

600

:

I see some of the girls

601

:

who were in the bar like trickling in

with some like with some guys and stuff.

602

:

And I'm like, you know, they're out.

603

:

Just paying no mind.

604

:

The next night, the night you see in the

605

:

the first night

you see in the documentary,

606

:

we go to the Humming Tree

to do a performance.

607

:

Raj performs.

608

:

As we're in the green room,

we're like hanging out.

609

:

We're talking.

610

:

The woman who runs, one of the women

who runs the Humming Tree

611

:

came back and was like,

What did you guys do?

612

:

Like, you know, talking to us like what

you guys do yesterday or whatever.

613

:

And we're like,

yesterday was our first day.

614

:

We went to Rough Riders and she was like,

You guys went to a whorehouse?

615

:

ha ha ha ha And I'm like.

616

:

ha ha What?

617

:

She was like, It's a whorehouse.

618

:

And we're like,

Well, no, what are you talking about?

619

:

Like, it's though it's the.

620

:

It’s a leer bar.

621

:

Yeah, like. It's a leer bar.

622

:

And then, like, all of a sudden, like,

623

:

the money that said hotel use only,

you know,

624

:

that kinda shit, like,

a lot of shit started to, like, make sense

625

:

of. So, like, that was the.

626

:

First night I was at a whorehouse

627

:

the first night in India

and had no idea about it.

628

:

But it is very much a

629

:

it's different from city to city.

630

:

Mumbai is very like a

631

:

very like party ish.

632

:

Very like

633

:

the dichotomy of like rich and poor is

634

:

wildly on display in Mumbai.

635

:

Like you. It's very easy.

636

:

There was a scene that we cut of

like a Lamborghini

637

:

that's just like parked next

to like shanty houses and shit.

638

:

That’s wild.

639

:

That's where you met the Slum Gods,

the guy that was really

640

:

teaching the youth.

641

:

Akash Dhungar. Yeah. Yeah.

642

:

The that was really cool

that these kids have very little means

643

:

and they're giving them a source of pride

and confidence is with hip hop.

644

:

It’s cool. Yeah.

645

:

It was my favorite part of the trip,

and I actually tried to get us to not go.

646

:

We had met the first night, you see, like

647

:

the first the first day we had already met

with a breakdancing crew.

648

:

Right.

649

:

And we had actually

when we did our research, me and John, me

650

:

and John and Raj were doing our research

before the trip.

651

:

Slum Gods came up, right, John?

652

:

I'm pretty sure we talked about them.

653

:

So we had reached out

to make contact with them

654

:

because they did tours

through Dharavi as well.

655

:

Right?

656

:

And so

657

:

when we were getting ready to

658

:

go, they were like,

Yo, it's going to be like a two hour ride.

659

:

Everything is like,

traffic is insane in India.

660

:

You can see it in the documentary.

661

:

Everywhere you go is like an hour

and change like everywhere.

662

:

And I was like, I really don't

want to go like, drive to this.

663

:

And then we had another shoot to do.

I was very tired.

664

:

We were ripping and running.

665

:

I mean, we were up from like the crack

of dawn, shoot all day, perform at night,

666

:

sleep for

667

:

an hour, hop on a plane to the next city.

668

:

So it was very like I was just like, Dude,

I was tired, it was hot.

669

:

I was like, Man,

I really don't want to go to this.

670

:

We already did a break dance crew.

671

:

Like, maybe we shouldn't go.

672

:

And I forget, I think it was the director

was just like, Yeah, we should go.

673

:

We definitely should go see them. Like,

it's going to be cool, I'm telling you.

674

:

So we're like, All right, let's go.

675

:

And we went and I mean, it was definitely

676

:

the best experience we had there.

677

:

The the ending of the documentary

678

:

where Raj is rapping

that was shot with the kids and Dharavi

679

:

when we shot as we were shooting it,

I remember standing there watching it

680

:

and going like, this is going to be

the end of the documentary.

681

:

I remember you telling me that.

682

:

So and then when we. Way before.

683

:

Yes, when we got the footage

684

:

and we were we were sitting

685

:

in the car

riding to the interview with Himesh

686

:

and we were

687

:

we were looking at that

and me and Raj were like, this is the end.

688

:

This is it. Like this is it.

689

:

And that's like just looking at it, going

like, this is it.

690

:

And it was one of the things

that was like, that things were falling

691

:

in place in my head finally of like,

how the

692

:

the film would be built

and that kind of stuff.

693

:

You can see like, and like,

I'm sure like if you watched

694

:

the documentary

knowing now, like I was unbearably nervous

695

:

through most of that documentary

of like being on camera, I'm not like,

696

:

I'm not a person who like to be on camera

or anything like that. So

697

:

I, I, I was

698

:

very like, like uptight about it.

699

:

But the going to Dharavi was crazy.

700

:

I'm still in contact

701

:

with, like, the little girl who's doing,

like, the head spinning there.

702

:

Okay.

703

:

She, we follow each other on IG.

704

:

Like in, like now they're out

in like the suburbs of India doing,

705

:

still doing like the Slum God stuff and

like she still like breakdancing, though

706

:

all of them are still,

they're still doing that stuff. And

707

:

you know, that's where they like slum guy,

the Slumdog Millionaire.

708

:

Like that's where that's based.

Yeah. Movie. Yeah.

709

:

So like that

we talk about it in the documentary.

710

:

That's why they're like reclaiming

that in like, you know, they're

711

:

the Slum Gods as opposed to there's,

712

:

you know, one thing

me and John and Raj talked about a lot

713

:

was not doing poverty porn.

714

:

I think it's very easy when you're doing

like a travelog, especially in a country

715

:

like India, where there is such

a dichotomy between the rich and the poor.

716

:

Yeah. you know, it's really easy to do

717

:

like poverty

porn to get like points, right?

718

:

Yeah.

719

:

We set in like, we will not do that.

720

:

We talked about that a lot.

721

:

Yes, we were adamant not to do that.

722

:

We did not want to do that kind of thing.

723

:

And I don't think

like we do that with that.

724

:

I think we try to show like

it is very helpful in this beautiful thing

725

:

because I think that's what it is

that we really wanted that to come across.

726

:

Certainly I thought so too. Yeah.

727

:

That was well done for sure.

728

:

Yeah.

729

:

Did you get

730

:

did you get a sense

of how popular American rappers

731

:

are to the Indian population over there,

or did you not really get that sense

732

:

because you were like an engrossed

in their hip hop scene?

733

:

No, we

734

:

heard because I heard like,

they're obviously like any performance.

735

:

There's always like a DJ set

at any performance, right?

736

:

So like, no, they are playing like regular

hip hop and we would we go at night.

737

:

We literally went out like every night

after

738

:

we were there, like, you know, listen,

what were you going to do?

739

:

Like not go enjoy the time you were there?

740

:

Like,

when am I ever going to get back to India?

741

:

Like, I don't know if I'll ever be able

to go back. Right?

742

:

So I'm going to go Joy, every minute

I was there.

743

:

And so we would go out every night.

744

:

We'd be in bars and clubs and shit

like that.

745

:

And American hip hop was huge there.

746

:

Like I said, one

747

:

Drake’s

God’s Plan had just dropped in like

748

:

it was playing all everywhere we went.

749

:

It was playing.

750

:

So they were playing the current,

the current stuff.

751

:

Not like. Okay.

I was just curious about that.

752

:

I know

753

:

what I, you know, based on your word,

but I know

754

:

God's Plan came out around that time

because I remember being in the hospital

755

:

and I was going to do a MRI

756

:

and they put me in the machine

and they asked me

757

:

like I went in with head trauma.

758

:

They got to like, lock you in.

759

:

So I'm like, in this thing and I'm doing

like 40 minutes at a time, like MRI's.

760

:

And they asked me like yo, Do you want to

listen to music in the headphones?

761

:

I was like, Yeah, sure is like

762

:

the, the

763

:

attending like technician was like,

what kind of music do you want to hear?

764

:

I was like, you know something, chill,

play some jazz and then a God’s Plan.

765

:

I asked for a jazz

and he just played Drake anyway.

766

:

He literally.

767

:

Every time I hear that song.

768

:

I picture myself in that.

769

:

In an MRI machine, it’s not pleasant.

770

:

That's funny.

771

:

Yeah.

772

:

You know what?

773

:

They were playing a lot. There was.

774

:

I am just.

775

:

I can't live in

776

:

that song. I think had just dropped.

777

:

So that was huge.

778

:

Yeah.

779

:

Like they played that a lot

while we were there.

780

:

They were playing a lot of current.

781

:

Like I said, look,

I think the, the homogeneity of like

782

:

monoculture is like so huge at this point.

783

:

Like, yeah, they were playing like a lot

of, like the modern stuff.

784

:

I like to

give the listeners like a comparison too.

785

:

So as far as like Prab Deep,

who you know, was at the top, was up

786

:

and coming, now you see he's dropped

like four albums and yeah,

787

:

which American rapper style does

he most sound like,

788

:

If you could possibly compare,

if there's any comparison,

789

:

he's got a good stage presence,

I saw, you know.

790

:

Yes, he's a great performer,

amazing performer.

791

:

Honestly,

792

:

Maybe Childish Gambino,

like a lot of their early

793

:

stuff, reminds me of like Bonfire and

794

:

what's the name of that record?

795

:

I love that record.

796

:

I can't think of it.

797

:

It's also like that off that album.

798

:

But like a lot of that early stuff

and then like there's

799

:

newer stuff that's very much like later

Childish Gambino.

800

:

He really kind of reminds

me of Childish Gambino.

801

:

Nice,

802

:

cool.

803

:

This couple more questions

and then we can wrap.

804

:

So the record label owner and the manager

of Prab Deep, it was Mo Joshi.

805

:

He was. Yeah, he was delightful.

806

:

He was just a fountain of information.

807

:

Like, I got to listen to him British guy.

808

:

We there's.

809

:

That interview's like an hour long.

810

:

Oh wow.

811

:

A lot of that interview's cut, but

812

:

it literally is just like it.

813

:

We talked and just talked and talked and

talked and talked and talked and talked.

814

:

And like you said, yes, he.

815

:

He would talk forever.

816

:

Yeah, he was.

817

:

He was great.

818

:

He was fantastic, too, with like,

819

:

you know, we use a couple other songs

in like the movie.

820

:

So, like he was really cool about like,

just letting us, like, rock out with that.

821

:

It's actually funny, too,

822

:

because there's like several versions

of the actual documentary.

823

:

There's a version that lives on

Quincy Jones’s streaming

824

:

service Qwest TV, that's

825

:

that doesn't have some of the songs

cause like, we like, I pulled some stuff

826

:

because it was like, well, we're,

you know, I didn't want to like

827

:

licensing stuff. I was worried.

828

:

So, like, there's that version.

829

:

There's a version that has

830

:

that has the one that's on

831

:

YouTube is in three parts

and it has like some extra stuff in it.

832

:

And then there's a whole version

that we've said

833

:

that was in the film festivals

that's like its own thing.

834

:

That's like just a full film in one piece.

835

:

So there's actually like

several different,

836

:

like little versions of the film,

which is actually kind of cool.

837

:

That's cool.

838

:

So one other thing about Mo Joshi,

he referenced Sez on the Beat

839

:

as being super integral to the growing

popularity of hip hop in India.

840

:

Like he's the guy that helped

841

:

spawn the popularity.

842

:

Is there a US equivalent of Sez

843

:

like what Sez has done

for hip hop in India?

844

:

Is there someone the U.S.

845

:

is that like

846

:

Dre or P-Diddy?

847

:

I actually have somebody in my head.

848

:

I wonder, John, do you

can you think of somebody like.

849

:

Yeah, I don't know, because I don't know

that there's any single equivalent

850

:

Marley maybe. You know. Yeah, yeah.

851

:

You know who I was thinking about?

And it's more current.

852

:

I get like, not current guys, but I can't.

853

:

I was thinking Timberland because, like,

he, like, kind of, like, launched

854

:

that whole kind of Virginia sound wave

type thing that came out.

855

:

A lot of people took his style, too.

856

:

Yes. Yeah.

857

:

Sez...Sez.

858

:

I don't think

it's like as big in the scene right now.

859

:

And that's partially

860

:

just because like he's doing other stuff,

like he's moved on to do other stuff.

861

:

But he was like

862

:

when we were there,

863

:

his name was the name

we heard brought up a ton.

864

:

Nice.

865

:

He was like one of the first big,

866

:

like non like rapper names

to kind of come out like he's like a big

867

:

he's like, he's the big first producer

to come out of India type thing.

868

:

Hmm. That's cool.

869

:

So other final question is

870

:

how do you think this trip changed

Lush- changed Lush Life?

871

:

How did it change him?

872

:

He was in the element.

873

:

He was enjoying it.

874

:

I mean, obviously,

you know, when he's before, he's like,

875

:

this is always, you know,

because he hadn’t been there ten years.

876

:

That's his homeland.

877

:

And he embraced the audience.

878

:

They seemed to embrace him.

879

:

Josh, I don't know if you talked to him

about this.

880

:

I haven't spoken to him about this.

881

:

So I spoke to him mostly about like,

you know what the trip overall is like

882

:

me and him.

883

:

Me and him came very close,

like me and John said.

884

:

We were like

885

:

friends at the time.

886

:

Like, we were like super close.

887

:

John, like, interviewed him and like,

had spent a little more time with him.

888

:

I had like, hung out with him

a couple of times.

889

:

I mean, John had hung out with him

a couple of times, but like we were

890

:

I was still kind of not really like,

891

:

you know, didn't really know him that

well when we went.

892

:

Raj is now one of our closest friends.

893

:

We it was a great experience to like.

894

:

It was something

that was he expressed like

895

:

he had toured obviously with his music.

896

:

He was like, I've never had a schedule

like that where we were up

897

:

all day, shooting all day,

then recording it, then

898

:

like performing at night

and then like being on the road

899

:

and then like doing that over and over

and over and over, day after day.

900

:

I do think he

901

:

got I think it gave him

902

:

I know he said,

like when the first night in Bangalore,

903

:

there were some people who knew his lyrics

and he

904

:

he said, it felt surreal

905

:

to like hear

like people in India rap his lyrics,

906

:

That’s

907

:

dope. Yeah.

908

:

And then like doing the actual

big festival because that was huge.

909

:

That place was like,

I don't think you don't even really get

910

:

the scope of it in the film.

911

:

I think I think we didn't

get a really one of the things was like

912

:

that was like

we the shout out to the film crew,

913

:

they were fucking running on fumes

because like when we slept

914

:

for like an hour or two, they were up

like transporting like trans- like,

915

:

like moving the footage

from one drive to another drive.

916

:

So they would have like space for the new

the next day.

917

:

Like they didn't sleep for like seven

days, man.

918

:

They ran ragged.

919

:

So toward the end

920

:

we were like,

we ran with more of a skeleton crew

921

:

and we so I don't we didn't really

I don't think

922

:

we got as much of the festival

as we really wanted, but

923

:

the festival was packed and like,

924

:

I know, like being in India and rocking in

925

:

India was huge for him

926

:

and I'm sure like kind of felt

927

:

like a culmination of sorts

for him to like, go to India and perform,

928

:

go to the homeland

and the motherland and like,

929

:

get to rock

and do something that you love.

930

:

It was really dope

and we got to experience

931

:

so much cool shit over there,

932

:

you know, they got to like,

933

:

teach me how to eat different shit there.

934

:

I'm very like,

John knows me, I'm a super picky eater.

935

:

I was super scared to go there and eat

936

:

because I'm so picky.

937

:

I have a really questionable

stomach too like.

938

:

And I was like

super scared over there eating and

939

:

so it was

940

:

I know, like it was one of the things

like John is way more adventurous.

941

:

He would like love that shit

way more than I would have

942

:

As long as it ain’t beef or pork.

943

:

Yeah, like we would.

944

:

It's great over there.

945

:

I mean, like, we didn't.

946

:

Dude, we caught when we went

947

:

to Mumbai from Bangalore,

948

:

we got up super early

and we were in the airport

949

:

like 730 in the morning

and we're like dying.

950

:

We're like, yo, we got to like,

we had been drinking all night,

951

:

Like we were drinking beer for free

because the beer company sent us.

952

:

So like we had all the beer

we could drink.

953

:

Been like,

although weed could smoke and shit.

954

:

So it was like a haha magical trip.

955

:

And so, like, we got out, we were at this,

956

:

we were at the airport

and the only thing that was open

957

:

was like this Indian restaurant,

not Indian restaurant.

958

:

And it would just...restaurant,

I guess, in India.

959

:

And like they were, we're serving

like regular Indian food and stuff.

960

:

And I was like, Yo, I can't do spices.

961

:

It's like 7:00 the morning.

962

:

I was like, And Deepak was like,

Yo, I can't

963

:

do I don't want to do spices right now

either. Let's let's get some KFC.

964

:

So we got some KFC and it

the worst decision,

965

:

it was so haha Airport KFC

at 730 in the morning was a bad choice.

966

:

I definitely get away with just like a

nice rice bowl or something. But

967

:

we got that and like it was

968

:

it was the worst turbulence

we I've ever experienced flying

969

:

and we flew when we were flying from

Bangalore to Mumbai in this tiny plane.

970

:

And I was it was the only

971

:

I was legitimate, like scared,

like I was like, you know, we're gone

972

:

because it was all mountains

around us and shit.

973

:

Like at least

what I could see was like mountains.

974

:

And I was like, Yo, if we crash, we're

going to crash into mountains and die.

975

:

Like,

I legitimately was scared on the plane

976

:

and it was not helped

977

:

because I had like a belly full of greasy,

978

:

nasty fried

chicken at 7:30 in the morning.

979

:

So it was an adventure.

980

:

It was an amazing trip,

I'll say that. Definitely.

981

:

Yeah. And look like it was awesome.

982

:

I'm glad. I'm

so glad you guys put this on film. That

983

:

Wright,

you know, discovered you guys on this

984

:

art of sampling show

and we able to link up.

985

:

Thank you for sharing these experiences.

986

:

Yeah.

987

:

Thank you for having us.

988

:

Like, it was

989

:

like, just.

990

:

Just putting it all together

in, like, you know,

991

:

we had to learn to make a documentary

to do this.

992

:

Like, we didn't know how

to do any of this stuff.

993

:

We were supposed to start working

on this documentary in:

994

:

It was the end of 2018, 2018

when Raj then gets the book

995

:

deal or Raj’s just like book comes out.

996

:

We because Raj,

like Raj is a children's book

997

:

author as well, like a best New York Times

bestselling author.

998

:

His career is like going crazy.

999

:

Yes, we were sitting down

:

00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,200

to like, edit this film, and the book

was just getting ready to come out

:

00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,520

and he just was like getting

:

00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,680

constantly called out of the like

as we're sitting down going over footage.

:

00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,720

And so, like when the pandemic hit,

like me and Diane kind of just decided

:

00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,400

like, well,

if we're ever going to make this, like,

:

00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,480

we got to like, make it, is

this just going to set the footage?

:

00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,800

We'll sit here

and no one will ever see it.

:

00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,040

And so, like I taught myself Final

:

00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,920

Cut Pro and me and John wrote

:

00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:01,200

and went over footage and did like,

just did a whole bunch of shit.

:

00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,200

We just taught ourselves

how to make a documentary.

:

00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,200

And, you know,

we were we're very proud of this project.

:

00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,080

I mean, it's definitely changed.

:

00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,120

Like our the shape of what we're doing.

:

00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,720

We're, we are working on a new film

project now.

:

00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:18,560

We have a few other projects in the works

as well.

:

00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:23,400

Like this is like really kind

of like changed our lives.

:

00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,080

That's amazing.

:

00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,960

Yeah. So I

:

00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,040

implore you all

to watch Another Word for Paradise.

:

00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,040

We can put the YouTube links,

or if you have a better link,

:

00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,040

we could put it in the show

notes. Definitely.

:

00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,840

Yeah, I would just do the YouTube.

:

00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:37,720

YouTube this way.

:

00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:38,360

Yeah. Yeah.

:

00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,240

Easiest way.

:

00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:41,920

We we enjoy it. I've been telling

a lot of people about it.

:

00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,360

My son has gone to school for film

and I got to. To.

:

00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,120

Show him as an example.

:

00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,720

He would enjoy it as well.

:

00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:49,960

Yeah.

:

00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:56,280

Yeah, I, I mean, like it is,

I rewatched it today for this podcast.

:

00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,800

I had to sit in in a long time

:

00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:05,080

and I obviously watch it with like,

you know,

:

00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,440

I should like cut that scene

like a fraction of a second earlier.

:

00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,120

Like all that stuff has like now

in my head you know what I mean?

:

00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,800

I'm like, all going to cut that one

like just a fraction of a second.

:

00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,760

They're like, faded

that song out just a little better here.

:

00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,160

But I mean, like,

:

00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,800

I still really, really,

really proud of that project.

:

00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,640

We have a we're going to be doing

another thing here in Philly.

:

00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,520

You know, we'll we'll definitely keep

you guys, we'll let you guys know.

:

00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:37,880

We're definitely doing another thing

about this film here in Philly soon.

:

00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,440

So we'll get well,

you know, we'll, we'll just check us out.

:

00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,600

Serious Rap Shit,

social media's Instagram and Twitter.

:

00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,400

@SeriousRapShit.

:

00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,600

And you know, if you want to follow us

there, we'll

:

00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,720

there's there's going to be some new stuff

coming up.

:

00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:54,240

Like I said,

we have the new film. Fantastic. Great.

:

00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:55,520

Yeah. It's going to be dope.

:

00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,160

Yeah, we'll definitely promote that.

:

00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,600

Thank you.

:

00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,480

Never thought I'd make a film like,

you know, I mean, you're

:

00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,040

talking about two dudes who grew up

:

00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,240

the furthest thing away from Hollywood.

:

00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:11,840

None of that stuff ever? Like, we.

:

00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,280

We didn't dream about this.

:

00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,760

Like, we didn't dream about this.

:

00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,960

We dreamt of it, but, like, they didn't

think this would happen, right?

:

00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,680

Like, this is something, you know, we

we never thought would happen.

:

00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,600

You know,

:

00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,440

we're very we're very thankful.

:

00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,720

And like,

you know, I talk about this all the time.

:

00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:33,280

I mentioned it at the

The Art of Sampling talk.

:

00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,240

We're very grateful to be like

:

00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:40,840

to be a part of the culture that we love

and like that we admire

:

00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,760

and to be a part of that

and to contribute to it

:

00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,160

is a feeling that I can't like

:

00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:53,160

really even like, explain now.

:

00:53:53,240 --> 00:53:54,240

It's a great feeling.

:

00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:55,840

Yeah, sure.

:

00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,440

Yeah, yeah. All right. All right.

:

00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,520

Thank you all so much.

:

00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:00,480

Yes, thank. You.

:

00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,000

It's just nice to meet you. And. Yes.

:

00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:03,720

Yeah, Thank you.

:

00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:05,640

We’ll be in touch.

Thanks a lot, you guys. Yeah.

:

00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,040

Thank you. So, thank you.

:

00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:12,280

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00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,360

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