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Forgiveness A Key To Your Deliverance
Episode 6910th April 2022 • Live Behind The Veil • The Epistles
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Summary:

What does forgiveness really mean?

Can we forgive those who have violated the core of our very being?

Without forgiveness, we cannot be forgiven.

Show Notes:

• Are we harboring anything against another because we cannot forgive?

• Forgive yourself first

• Forgiveness is not agreeing with another, or saying what they did was “okay”, We may not ever sit and have coffee together.

• Forgiveness is for each individual, not the other person necessarily.

References:

Luke 23:34a NLT

Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they don’t know what they are doing.”

2 Corinthians 2:10 NASB

But one who you forgive anything, I forgive also; for indeed what I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, I did it for your sakes in the presence of Christ,

2 Timothy 2:21 NLT

If you keep yourself pure, you will be a special utensil for honorable use. Your life will be clean, and you will be ready for the Master to use you for every good work.

Matthew 6:14, 15 NIV

14. For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

15. But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.


Ephesians 4:32 NASB

Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you.

Psalms 103:12 NKJV

As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us.

Micah 7:19 TLV

He will again have compassion on us. He will subdue our iniquities, and You will cast all our sins into the depths of the sea.


Corrie Ten Boom: Three books

The Hiding Place; Corrie Ten Boom, Her Story; In My Father ’s House


Quotes:

• The first thing you need is to have forgiveness for everyone

• Where do you start?

• It is not excusing what someone has done

• Forgiveness is a gift from God


Take Away:

When we do not forgive we harbor sin in our hearts, as we forgive others only then are we set free to be what God has called us to be.

Transcripts

Lead In: 0:00

Ron: 0:29

Do you have a heart of forgiveness or are you harboring things against yourself and your neighbor? I am Ron your host and, on this podcast, we reach into a heart of forgiveness and a deep understanding of what it means to forgive someone. Without a forgiving heart we literally block everything that God wants to do for us and our very growth in God.

Allan: 0:55

The First thing you need is to have forgiveness for everyone. Christ forgave, “Father forgive them they don’t know what they are doing.” And I think there are so many people out there who are carrying burdens because they have not forgiven somebody, they didn’t forgive their dad, they didn’t forgive their mom, they didn’t forgive their brother, they didn’t forgive that stupid clown at the store that cut in front of them. They don’t have that forgiveness in their heart. We should have forgiveness for everyone just as Christ did.

Dale: 1:31

Where do you start? You start with yourself. That is a thing that Christ did. He started with Himself, He showed us the path, each step He took. The first thing that we have to understand is your heart has to be right and if you don’t forgive somebody else then you are harboring a mill stone around your neck. You’re harboring a stumbling block. If I can’t forgive myself how can I forgive my neighbor. In time I should set down and say God, you and I have got to get this right. How can I pray for my brother if I don’t first seek forgiveness? If I have ought against my brother, oh you know he ripped me off but I am going to pray for Him anyway. Waste my breath, unless we do what you are saying. You know that is a foundational block in us that we are building on. And that’s a foundation block of forgiveness.

Ron: 2:48

Forgiveness is a great, that is a great starting point. It’s an awesome starting point because I think people are stuck. Their thinking of forgiveness as if I forgive this person that means what they did was Ok. But that is not true. I personally believe a lot of people don’t understand God’s definition of forgiveness and what that means to them because if they understood it, they’d be forgiven all over the place. Because it would be setting them free. It is not excusing what someone has done, it’s not saying oh we are going to be buddy-buddy now. It’s none of that. It’s not even saying that you agree with them. It’s a principle of God that when you forgive someone it sets you free, it sets your life free. Boy if you could get that across to people, if they get a revelation of that because then they realize, I harboring stuff to my own hurt. It is not hurting the other guy. He may have forgotten it a long time ago and go on or not cared.

Allan: 4:00

It’s the simplicity, my goodness and I think we cannot give our lives until we got this step. Because if we are not a pure vessel doesn’t matter what we do we are going to be wrong. We have to have this forgiveness in such a depth.

Ron: 4:23

You should say that again Allan because what you said there is a HUGE thing. You said if we don’t get this first step whatever we do, how good we think we are, is wrong because we are wrong.

Allan: 4:40

You can’t give your life until you have this step. Because if you don’t have full forgiveness for everybody as Christ did. If we don’t have that we are harboring something.

Dale: 4:54

There is a step-in forgiveness that can be put either in the beginning or at the end and that is “thank you Lord”. Because I think what we are talking about is we’re talking about the Grace of God. Without that I never would have been able to walk on further with you.

Ron: 5:18

Forgiveness, it doesn’t have to do with me agreeing or liking the individual. I don’t have to agree with them. It’s not part of the principle. The principle is I forgive them and there is an objectivity in it because I am setting myself free from any bonds, any hatred, I am not harboring anything in my heart towards them. And I think as you get yourself free, God will show you what He is doing.

Deborah: 5:51

Yea, I think part of it too is they don’t understand what forgiveness is. They don’t really understand what it means to forget. They think that forgiveness like I think Allan said, forgiveness okaying it, it’s ok, that they did that. I know in my heart that you have to forgive is for you. Forgiveness is for me, it’s for you. It’s not for the other person. Forgiveness is for you because if you don’t forgive, you’re not forgiven.

Allan: 6:32

I want to give a classic example of a woman who has been raped. Like Ron said there is no way she is going to love him. There is no way she is going to understand the spirit realm behind what’s going on. In fact, it is going be everything in her being to forgive that person for what he did to her. There’s going to be individual situations God bless that this podcast will go out to a multitude of people, and we will have the words that would help them to find the way to learn to forgive. You know in scripture in the Disciple’s prayer, the Lords Prayer it says if you have ought against your brother go to that one. That woman who was raped is not going to go to that dude and say hey I forgive you I’m sorry it isn't going to happen. Not that way. So, she’s going to have to get help with that one. There are so many facets like we are talking about and I don’t want it to be too complicated and I don’t want it to be out here in the ethereal realm out there somewhere. I want where that woman who feels violated can love herself again because of giving to the Lord the fact of what that guy did to her. That’s what I want to see. I want to see people free and learn the effects of forgiveness.

Ed: 7:59

Yea we know the effects of forgiveness is right in the Lords’ prayer. Forgive me of my trespasses as I forgive those who trespass against me. It’s got to be a total thing. You don’t want to stand there before the presence of God and all of a sudden God says, why didn’t you forgive him? You held on to that and because if you were to let go of that would have freed you. Now maybe it wouldn’t have freed him but you were the one that I was concerned about. Forgive me as I forgive those who trespass against me. Then I can hold nothing against anyone for any reason.

Deborah: 8:49

I was thinking about Corrie TenBoom I don’t know if you know who she is?

Allan: 8:53

Yea, oh yea, very well.

Deborah: 8:55

But Corrie TenBoom I remembered meeting her up in Canada when I was going to school. We went to a church, she was talking from her wheelchair but she was talking to us about what she went through. And she said when she met the Nazi that was responsible for putting her in the concentration camp and was responsible for her father’s death and her mother’s death. She said God had to put something into my heart to forgive him because I did not have it. I had to go before the Lord and cry out for forgiveness of that man. When he came and he was a Christian. He came to her asked for her forgiveness. She had to say she forgave him. And she was able to forgive him because the Lord had prepared her heart to do it. Can you imagine? I can’t even imagine. That’s the depth it has to go the depth of our being. It is not something that is easy all the time especially when someone has been raped or someone has been violated and someone knows that they have. And there is no doubt in their minds that they have been. But then the Lord says what are you going to do? Are you going to forgive them?

Ron::

So that is a great example, does that mean that lady because she has forgave that man. Does that mean that they are going to sit down and have coffee together?

Deborah::

No, not necessarily, no but she had to relate to him, she had to talk to him.

Ron::

Right she had to talk to him. But I am just saying is forgiveness does not mean that you agree with what he did. It doesn’t mean that it hurt any less. It doesn’t mean that it wasn’t evil. It doesn’t mean that you are going to be friends now and have a relationship. It just means that you are setting yourself free. And in that case specifically you are setting him free because he is asking for forgiveness. So, it is setting you both free.

Deborah::

But she had to forgive him before she met him. She had to forgive him to the depth of her being and then when he came up to her then she was able to say I forgive you.

Allan::

Because the Lord was real to her to begin with and she understood the principle but she didn’t have it in her heart at first. She had to ask the Lord for that capability. That’s where I think we really need to touch on people’s hearts is ask the Lord for this because actually forgiveness honestly who else can put what happened in the sea of forgetfulness. I can’t, I going to remember what you did for ever probably because that’s a human brain. But it’s God who puts it as far as the east is from the west. Forgiveness is a gift from God I believe. Just like His love is a gift from Him to us. We don’t learn how to love without knowing His love for us. We can’t forgive without knowing His forgiveness for us. He who has been forgiven much, loves much.

Ron::

That is really super important because the whole issue that we are bringing up here is we are not talking about little offences, we’re talking about big offences. And these big offences you can’t forgive them in yourself. There is just no way. You’re lying to yourself if you say you can. Because if it is a big offense it’s a big offence and you know somebody being raped. Somebody killing one of your family. These are big deals even if they are little deals honestly you can’t really forgive anybody out of yourself, you can say it but real forgiveness is a thing of heart and also if you really forgive somebody you’ll probably come to a place where you forget. Because you let it go, you let it go to that depth. And how can you do that honestly. You cannot do that as a human being.

Deborah::

The Holy Spirit has to help you with it.

Allan::

You know another thing that could be really helpful is that movie the “Shack”. When you have a meeting with the Lord it is not that hard to forgive because He gives you the ability. What happened to his daughter should happen to no person. No person should have ever experience that. He should never have experienced that, but the Lord brought him through it and I think that’s what important to realize about that show is how the Lord brought him through it. And He will do the same for each and every individual who asks Him. Lord I don’t have forgiveness in my heart for this person. Give it to me because I love you enough that I don’t want to miss out on our relationship because of a circumstance or because of an issue.

Deborah::

That is such a key.

Allan::

Yea, I think that’s where it is going to come from is our relationship with the Lord. It’s the only way to honestly get to the heart of forgiveness.

Lead out::