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Ep. 15 Financial struggle / Divorce / Suicidal thoughts interview w/ Clinton Johansson
Episode 154th June 2021 • The Borealis Experience • Aurora Eggert
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Your finances deeply affect your mental health. 

Sometimes you just sense this when you get into financial troubles.. and then it gets real uncomfortable real quick..

It is really important for me to emphasize that there is help out there right now

How can you face your troubles and feel more stable and resilient in the future ?

How can you address your debt ?

How can you start saving and maybe even start investing with just little money ?

And most importantly: 

WHO can you trust with your finances (outside of the bank) ??

Enjoy this interview with Clinton Johannesson, financial adviser and inspiration for people from all walks of life

how to contact Clinton Johannesson

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email: cjohannesson09rswc@wfgmail.ca

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Hello, and welcome to the Borealis experience. I'm

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your host Aurora, and I'm very excited to have Clinton with me

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today, we will be talking finances, your financial health

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is so incredibly important when it comes to your relationships,

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but also your own health, your mental health. And this is why I

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want to raise awareness that there are so many people out

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there who have the knowledge and who are willing to help you,

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sometimes even for free, like in this case here with Clinton

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today to make you aware of how to get rid of your debt, on how

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to get a mortgage, and how to be more stable when it comes to

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your finances. And this, in turn, will help you to live a

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more fulfilled life. Hi, Clinton. Here, Hey, are you

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today? I'm doing awesome. I'm very excited to be doing this

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episode with you. Because I know it's very important for people

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to hear your message. And yeah, to learn about what people,

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wonderful people like you are doing out there and supporting

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people with their finances.

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Awesome. Well, yeah, thanks a lot for having me again. This is

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my second episode. So I'm very appreciative. I really like your

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podcast, I've been telling lots of people that they're great.

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And I need to check it out. So yeah, like I said, I'm I'm very

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happy to be here again. And so thanks for having me.

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Yes, thank you for making the time. So let's just jump into

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the most juiciest part of finances. When it comes to debt.

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I think most of us people out there have debt. And how would

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you say? Can debt be aggressive? aggressive? I wanted to say but

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addressed quickly? How can a person feel more stable and

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comfortable when it comes to their debt and trying to Yeah,

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tackle it.

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So I mean, you know, that from one person to another can be you

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know, there's a big difference between them. So sat down with

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someone who was just stressed out with their debt, they didn't

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know what to do. And she only had 15 $100 that she owed, it

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wasn't very much when she was stressed out. And I could tell

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she was very stressed out about it. But I reassured her you

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know, actually, you're actually in a pretty decent situation

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statistics across Canada right now. So, you know, the average

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family is $30,000 in debt. It's probably more than that now. So

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there's, you know, there's a lot of debt problems in Canada. And

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there's just, there's, there's help out there. People don't

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know that there's help or where to look, but there's help, you

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know, whether it's budgeting, you know, trying to show them

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you know where to spend money, we're not to spend money, that's

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great as well. But you know, when it does come down to debt,

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there's different options. So depends on how much debt you

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have, or what you want to do with your debt. But there's a

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lot of different options. You know, bankruptcy, obviously, is

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the last option. You don't want to go that route unless you have

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to, but you know, there's consumer proposals. There's debt

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consolidations, you know, there's loans you can get

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personal loan on, you can even wrap up your more your debt into

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your mortgage, and if you have enough credit, but yeah, there's

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a lot a lot of areas where we can help people adapt. And I've

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been, you know, obviously, the economy here in Alberta, in

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Canada hasn't been the greatest. It's been the worst I've seen

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ever since I've been alive. Um, and yeah, more and more people

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nowadays are reaching out and needing help, because it's

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really, you know, it's a tough situation right now. And I'm

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always happy to help people. And obviously, you know, I sit down

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with people and help them either save money or have more money,

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help them out with their debt, and, you know, changes their

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lives. They're happy about it, they really appreciate it. And

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it also makes me feel good for helping people. That's one of

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the reasons why I do what I do is because you know, financial

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health is important. And it's one way that I can actually give

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back to the community and help out.

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Beautiful. Just for the interview here. We had a little

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chat. We were talking about divorce and how it is very

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difficult for people. Yeah, going, the emotional stress of

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divorce, but then also the financial stress that can be

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enormous. What are the experiences with clients that

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you've made there?

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Yeah, so I mean, obviously, you know, people don't think about

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financial health as a health issue. Of course, it's money,

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you know, people worry about their wage or eating habits, or

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they're exercising all that help, but when people, you know,

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looking at financial health, you know, people that are, are in

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debt, or they're struggling, you know, that causes them stress.

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Stress can, you know, lead to depression, anxiety, you know,

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social disorders, know, a lot of people actually, when they are

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in debt, you know, what changes them as a person, they don't

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feel whole, they don't feel complete. Um, but yeah, and then

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when it comes to marriages, like, I'm not sure the exact

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statistic, but I read recently, somewhere, I think it's like,

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50%. You know, most all marriages in Canada, you know,

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50% of them end up in divorce. And that is a stick. But we've

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been finding, you know, the number one reason why people are

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getting divorced, nowadays is, is due to finances, you know,

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something happens, a guy gets laid off, or, you know, he

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doesn't have work or something, all of a sudden, you know, bills

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aren't getting paid, you know, families not taken care of, and

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it causes stress in the household, you know, there's

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fights, there's all that stuff. So that's, you know, that's kind

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of one area. That's, you know, making divorces, rates go up

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there. And I mean, it's, it's a huge thing, especially today,

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because of the economy. You know, we recently in Alberta had

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the oil crash, you know, a lot of jobs were lost, a lot of

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companies left Alberta, a lot of people were laid off, and in

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return now, because all these people aren't working, you know,

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people aren't spending the same money companies aren't, you

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know, buying stuff. So it affected all industries, such

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as, you know, the construction industry, you know, people like

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I said, and retail and restaurants, you know, no,

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people aren't spending as much money in those areas. So, it's

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affecting all industries. So that's, you know, that's a big

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factor. So yeah, like I said, when it comes to financial

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health, and divorces and stuff like that, you know, finances

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are a big thing. So I mean, I've been following a Alberta Family

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Law page. And I've been seeing a lot of single dads or whatever

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struggling like they're, they're making like $100,000 a year, and

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they're, you know, renting an apartment sitting on a on a polo

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chair, because they have to give all their money to the mom and

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the kids to raise the kids and stuff. I mean, obviously, you

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know, you don't want to your family to go without supplies,

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they need money, meaning no, it's it's not a system that's

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helping people in a lot of people are struggling because of

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it. And, yeah, like it, like I said, that leads to a lot of

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stress. I mean, the I'm not sure if other people know this as

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well, but the suicide rates in men right now are skyrocketing.

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You know, like I say, when people are stressed out, they're

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in debt, they don't know where they're getting money from, but

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everyone's asking him or forcing them to pay the money. They

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don't have it, you know, causes huge stress. And like I say, a

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lot of people are, you know, it's sad. And I see a lot of

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like, single dads were happy people, happy family, man, and

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they will commit suicide because they don't know what to do. So

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obviously, you know, that's something I want to prevent.

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Well there and help people their finances so that they, you know,

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they this, they do see the light at the end of the tunnel. It's

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tough right now, and people just need to understand there's help

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out there. So,

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yeah. Oh, man, I didn't. I mean, I was imagining that mental

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health is strongly being affected about Yeah, through

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COVID and the economy, but I didn't know that there were

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numbers out already. And that is very, very scary.

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So these, these numbers are actually before COVID. So you

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can imagine COVID making everything even worse. I forgot

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to mention that before. But yeah, COVID is the next step

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after the oil crash the recession, the economy crashed,

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and now we have this COVID which is, you know, icing on top of

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it. Right. So yeah, so we would like to set I've been seeing a

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lot of stuff like that. And it's sad, but there's help you know,

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you can reach out there help. There's a lot of advisors out

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there looking to help people and people just, you know, the the

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they aren't getting the help they need or they don't, they

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don't know what's out there. They don't know where to look.

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So

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yeah. And I find it very hard to find people that you can really

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trust because there's lots of scammers out there. You don't

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want to go to your bank because you think they're gonna just do

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it to their advantage. But then the other people that are out

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there pretending to help and then not helping you at all.

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It's it's a jungle out there and it's very scary to To trust

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someone with your money, that's why I'm very happy that we met

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and that I know that the crew behind you is trustworthy. How

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do you get about, like, how do you advise a person when they

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come to you and say, hey, I want to learn how to save money? What

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are the first baby steps that a person can take in order to be

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more stable? In order to address these problems, and instead of

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running away from them?

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Yeah, so it's, I'm glad you brought that up, because there's

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a huge trust issue when it does come to advising. I mean, you go

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to a bank, you think they have your best interests at heart,

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but they don't, you know, their, their, their main job is to make

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the bank money. So they're, you know, they're selling you

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credit, they're selling you things that might not even help

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you, they're probably, you know, helping you get into that. So,

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it's a great thing that you brought that up, because that's

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the first place people go is banks. But you know, there are

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there are people out there that work for companies, and they're

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being pressured by their managers to know, sell, sell,

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sell. So I mean, you're right, you know, trust is a huge thing,

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just because a person's helping you say, getting the life

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insurance or investments, you know, they're out there to, you

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know, they're there to make money for themselves. So you do

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see a lot of, you know, pushy people, salesmen and trying to,

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you know, take advantage of people. So, it's, it's a big

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factor, you got to trust the adviser you sit down with. So

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that's why, you know, you want to make sure you're, you're

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sitting with a nice and friendly person who's very transparent

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and open. And he's actually, you know, he cares about you, he

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wants to make your life better. So that's awesome. You bring

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that up? And then second point. So yeah, like, what can people

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do? So first off, it's kind of like, it's like, it's very

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similar to your mental health, your physical health, you know,

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first of all, you need to identify what the problem is. So

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the first thing is, what, why am I in debt. So the first thing

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you can look at is, you know, take a look at where your

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money's going, no create, first of all, like, you need to track

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what you're spending your money on. And then that way, that

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creates a baseline a starting point, okay? Okay, I'm spending

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money here, here. And here. So this is where budgeting comes

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into play. You know, okay, well, I'm spending a whole bunch of

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money on you know, liquor and booze or cigarettes, and money,

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you know, for food, and here and there, you know, diode all the

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time. So now you know where your money is going, you can make a

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plan to cut certain things out. So that's the first step, the

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second step is even harder. So once you know you know, what

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you're spending your money on, and what you know, what you need

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to cut out and stuff like that. Now you have to create a budget

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and follow it. Because you know, a lot of people realize, Oh, I

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spent too much money here, there. But they never put a plan

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in place, or they don't think about it later on, it just they

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keep going back to their same routine. So that's why you know,

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writing it down, making sure you see where your money's being

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spent it what you spend your money on, then then once you

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identify the areas where you need to cut back, then you can

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create a budget, but then you have to be disciplined, you have

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to follow that budget. So I mean, a lot of people use life

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coaches, or, you know, financial advisors, just to say, Hey, you

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know, I have this much money, what should I do with it, you

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know, obviously, we're gonna say you make sure your family is

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taken care of your bills are paid first, you know, your food

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bought. And so you want to prioritize things and make sure

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you're spending your money, the right amount, the right places.

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So that, you know, that comes down to like I said, discipline,

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you want to make sure all these things are dealt with. And then

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the last thing you want to look at is okay, now you have extra

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money, then what can I do with it? So, yeah, all that good

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stuff.

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And when it comes to investing, so now we looked at, okay, where

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is your money being spent? Where can you be a little more

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careful? Where can you cut back? And with the little bit of money

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that you have? would you advise that people who just struggled

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recently that they think of investing that money? Or is it

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safe to just keep it on the savings account and to wait

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until you have more saved up? Do you know what I'm Yeah,

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yeah, so that's a good question as well. I mean, there's a lot

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of areas where you can invest your money so first off, you

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need to get kind of educated on what options are out there. So

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obviously, the first place a person is going to go to is a

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bank you know, savings account because they think it's the most

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secure places, you know, there's there's just better options in

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the bank. So I mean, you put your savings account at a bank,

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you know, high interest savings account, you're probably getting

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a quarter of a percent growth, which isn't much. So I mean,

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people there's there's a rule out there called the rule of 72

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It's the rule of compound growth, it was brought up by, it

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was actually designed by Albert Einstein, he was gonna call it

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the eighth wonder of the world. But anyways, the way it works is

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you take your annual rate of return kick, the number 72,

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divided by your annual rate of return, and that will tell you

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how much your money doubles. So obviously, if your your money's

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in a savings account at a bank growing at a quarter of a

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percent, I'm not sure exactly what they think it's, you know,

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it's probably like, one or 200 years before your money will

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double right. So there are better options out there.

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myself, you know, I can set up tax free savings accounts,

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getting a DC portfolio is doing five to like 12% rates of

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return. So first of all, you need to know your options. I

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mean, obviously, there's another way to invest is trading A lot

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of you know, trading starting to get really popular, but people

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are not aware of that is very risky, you know, you can

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actually lose most of your money when it comes to trades, if you

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don't know what you're doing, or you don't manage your money

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properly. You know, things can happen, and you can lose your

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money quick. So you know, first off, you want to find someone

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that's, you know, very knowledgeable in investing area,

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and you want to make sure that you're investing in a nice safe

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place, but you're also getting good returns, because what's the

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point of saving money if it's not growing? So one thing I

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wanted to talk about is inflation, like, because of our

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economy right now, is not doing very well, people are getting

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laid off, no one's getting more money, they're getting less

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money, but cost of living is going up every year. So we're

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there's a huge problem with that alone. But I mean, if your money

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is not growing more than 3%, to stay on par of that inflation,

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your money is not necessarily growing, it's actually shrinking

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it dying, right. So you want to make sure that you're you're

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talking to an advisor, you want to look at some a lot of

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different options, the ones that best fit your needs. So we

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actually have a statistic across Canada, you know, sitting with

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an advisor talking with an advisor, you'll probably have

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five times more money in retirement. So there's lots of

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you know, there's lots of areas to invest, a lot of them have

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different risk tolerances with them. But you just need to find

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which one meets your needs, you know, to be risky investors who

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are okay to take those big, no gains and losses, hopefully

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getting those good returns. But then there's some people who are

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very conservative and like, they don't like seeing ups and downs

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in the markets, they just want to see a steady up. So you can

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look at, you know, guaranteed interest accounts, gi C's, stuff

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like that. So like I said, it just depends on what type of

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person you are, what your tolerance is. And then but

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sitting with an advisor, they can show you all those options,

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and then we can find a vehicle that helps meet your needs.

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Yeah. Awesome. What would you say is the minimum amount you

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need in order to start investing? Like just very, very

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plain answer if it's $100? Or no, it has to be over $1,000?

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What What is the amount where you would say no, that's

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realistic to start investing.

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Okay, so that's a very interesting point you bring up

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so obviously, like I said, today's economy is not very

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well, you know, people are struggling. Yeah. So, statistics

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show in the 1980s and 1990s, people were saving about 18% of

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their saving their money into savings. Nowadays, that's more

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like 3% so there's a huge, huge decrease there. You know, on

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average, when we sit down with a client, I sit down with clients,

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we say, as a rule of thumb, it's good to invest 10% of your

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income into savings, or your financial plan. So let's see

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more of that comes down to a lot of things even with personal

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development, you know, running a business, they tell you you want

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to whatever you make for the year, you want to invest 10% of

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it back into yourself. So you know, reading the books, taking

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courses, personal developing, becoming a better persons and

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that's, you know, similar with savings, whatever your income

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is, there's no specific dollar amount, but it's whatever your

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income is, you know, on average, you should be saving around 10%

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people who can't save 10% at least start the habit because,

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you know, some people just you just need to start that habit

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first because once you start that habit, it could be a very

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small amount so people can afford it you know, we're

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looking at maybe 5% investing into yourself but just want to

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start that habit because once you do start that habit so

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you're saving $25 a month you know, after a year or two you

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say hey, you know what this has been drawing this has been

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working well but I can afford more money and so maybe you want

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to put in $50 away so it's it's a habit you want to create

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because you want to create discipline. You don't want to

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get into a habit of you know, saving for a year and then going

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spending all that money. Yes. So you it's your money you want

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with it, but I think the most important thing is to at least

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start something. start somewhere. Yeah. Something

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Something that you obviously even afford. But like I said,

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you just want to start that habit, create good habits so

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that it just, it just becomes part of your life.

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Yes, beautiful. You said. And like you said at the beginning,

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it's just like for mental health and your physical health, you

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have to have that consistency. And that sense of I want to even

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say self worth, to know that it is not only a rich people's

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thing to invest money and to make more money, people with

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less money, can start and put money aside and create that

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habit. And then get there one day, this is, this is very

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critical to say. I wanted to ask you, when it comes to your

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finances, and finding an advisor out there, how can people like

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hi met you coincidentally here on my Facebook? But how? We will

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make sure to put all the links and all your your contacts in

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there. But how do people otherwise find people like you?

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Because you're not out there advertising it on TV or radio?

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And then secondly, what are the books that you would recommend

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us reading in order to become more aware of our finances and

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spending habits? But first of all, how can we we find advisors

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like you?

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Yeah, so that's one of the big things that kind of disappoints

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us about most financial companies and firms and banks.

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So there, there are some big names out there. I don't want to

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mention names because I'm not here to badmouth anybody, but

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you know, some of the big banks, some of the main financial

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companies that you recognize the names, you know, they won't even

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sit down with you unless you have 100 or $200,000 sitting in

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a checking account. Yeah, so first off, you know, there's,

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there's people out there who know, they're only looking for

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high net worth people. So that leaves you know, the middle

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market and everyone else out of it. So there's no money in it

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for advisors to go help broke people. So that's kind of one

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disappointment. They're huge. Yeah, so I mean, myself, you

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know, I see our company is see huge disconnect there. So I just

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like want to meet if people have good conversations, you know,

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I'm not here to push yourself or anything on people, but by just

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by talking to them, you find out that they're struggling either

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with a job or their finances, and I just, you know, I just try

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and provide solutions for people, you know, like, hey,

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maybe you should sit down, maybe I can help you out. And I mean,

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I'm not picky, I'm not gonna go, it doesn't matter, if you have a

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lot of money or less money, I actually want to help. Those are

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the people that need to help the most. But the you know, there's,

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there's a lot of people out there, even even people that

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have their finances in order, you know, we can even help those

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people out. Because, like I said, looking at a second

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opinion, you know, you sit down with the first advisor, you take

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their advice, and you think they're golden, but they only

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told you about their options. There's other options out there.

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So it's, it's good to have a second opinion, you know, get

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second opinions from other people, because there's a lot of

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options out there people aren't aware of. Um, so there's that

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one thing as well. Another thing too, you know, when sitting down

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with some advisors, they, you know, they have a fee, you know,

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people need to pay a fee to sit down with them. And I mean, if

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you, you know, a lot of their expertise is valuable, but you

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got to pay for it. Like, there's broker fees on top of

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everything, right. So obviously, it's no more more of the wealthy

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people that they're taking care of. And we see a big problem

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with that. So like I say, I just, you know, I look for

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people who are struggling, people that need the help.

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There's a lot of people out there who think they have their

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finances in order because they sit down, but I'm like, you know

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what, there's better options out there, let's take a look at your

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financial plan. They might be set up, but I can show them

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better options, that either helps them save more money now,

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or I can put, you know, couple $100,000 more on their

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retirement account so that they have saved more money or just

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have more money. So yeah, like I said, it's another thing to you

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know, you're not going to get help with your finances unless

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you reach out and ask people so it's not just you know, those

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companies reaching out to you, you know, sometimes you gotta,

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you know, bite the bullet and be like, Hey, you know what, I

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could use some help. And then go look for it yourself, right?

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There's a lot of resources out there, but you just you just got

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to be careful who you talk to you like you said, he, it's all

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about trust. So I mean, you go to a company, a big company or

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bank, you know, you're sitting down with an employee that you

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Don't even know. So they're just there to do business with you.

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Whereas, you know, I like to get to know people, I like to learn

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about your friends and family, see how your summers going? I

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keep in touch. And I like to create that friendship bond and

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that trust relationship, because I want them to know that I am

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there to help them on the eye, you know, their needs come

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first. And another thing too, you know, there's like a lot of

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banks and those big companies, once they sit down with you and

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help you out, you know, they've made their money. No, they're

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not, you'll probably never hear from them ever again. No

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finances change, like even six months or a year your finances

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changed. So I make it a habit to at least follow up every three

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to six months, you know, first of all, to keep that

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relationship. You know, I like I like to actually be friends with

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people I help. I'm just that type of person. But you know, I

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like to see how things are going, Hey, is anything changing

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your life and you need help in this area? You know, these

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things happen? And I'm always there to help people. So yeah,

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like I said, it's just people just aren't aware that there's

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help out there. They just either need to find those people or

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reach out. So

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yeah, no, that's very, very good. And what about some books

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that you read? That changed your mindset when it comes to

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finances? Can you read? So?

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Yeah, there's some good books. So one of the book that comes to

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mind is called and a lot of people don't know this is out

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there. But it's called the 10s 10. Secrets Canada Revenue

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doesn't want you to know about. So just an example. I mean, it's

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a small book that I think it's really hard to find, but I think

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you can get it on Amazon. But I've heard it is a little bit

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harder to read, because obviously the government

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doesn't, you know, they want your tax money, right. So it's

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just a book, it's a book money. It's a book that teaches you how

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to, you know, cool strategies that people use to save money on

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taxes. So just an example, you know, life insurance is there to

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protect your family and stuff in case something were to happen,

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but some of life insurance products, I have come with an

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investment portion attached to it. So these are called

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insurance tax shelters. Yeah, it was another way to tax shelter

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your money, you know, felt the government getting their fingers

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in it. That's just one, you know, one tip, I think that's

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secret number eight, secret number nine, you know, is being

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self employed, you know, being an employee, and you're getting

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taxed, 30 to 40%. But if you were to, you know, you say you

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worked a trade or you did a specific job that no one else

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can do, you could actually break off for that company, start your

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own company. When you're self employed, or a business owner,

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you get taxed. 15 20%. So right off the bat, you're getting

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taxed less being self employed. I mean, there's, there's pros

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and cons between being an employee and self employed.

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Yeah, but one of the big ones is, you know, your how much

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you're getting taxed. So I mean, as an employee getting taxed, so

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you make $100,000 a year, you're getting 35% you're only taking

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home. 65,000 Yeah, but if you're making $80,000, and you're

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getting taxed 15%. You know, you're you're taking home the

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same amount of money. Yeah. Yeah, so there, that's a good

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book as well. Another one is, there's a guy called Darren

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Hardy. And he's wrote some books. I believe the three most

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popular ones he's written are called the entrepreneur

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rollercoaster that's more so how to run a business and you know,

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just be a good person, all that stuff. But the other books that

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really helped me Oh, it was called the compound effect.

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Hmm, very good.

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So that book was huge in my personal development, not only

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does that help, you know, people's finances or success, it

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also helps with your relationships and lifestyle. So

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remember how or I told you about what you know, people struggling

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with debt, what's the first steps you can do? When I say,

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you know, first off, write down what you're spending your money

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on, so that you can create a baseline, then you can create

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waste to what you need to cut out and then you can make a plan

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to move forward. I've learned all that from the compound

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effect. So as it's to do with, you know, money and finance, but

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also to do with your lifestyle as well, you know, relationships

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with people, your bad habits and stuff like that. So that was a

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huge one. It teaches you more of a discipline, you know, how to

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how to be more aware of what your money on or you know,

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anything to do with that. So that was a good book. And

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there's another one called living your best life ever by

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Darren Hardy. I haven't read that book yet. But it's more

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like a peak performance kind of thing. kind of deal. So, Darren

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Hardy is I think he's the president or owner of a magazine

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called Success Magazine. And yeah, he's just, you know, he

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started out as a realtor. He did some of these, you know, I think

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he used to sell water filters and stuff like that. I think he

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did Amway for a bit, but he ended up being the realtor

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because that's what is found. business was but then he, you

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know, he branched off and now he goes off and he interviews

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wealthy people, people that are making lots of money or

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succeeding in life. And he picks their brains, because he wants

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to know how people become successful. And then he writes

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the books and he teaches everyone else how to be

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successful. So those are some of the books that I read that

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helped. finances and stuff like that.

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Very, very good. Man, this was very precious I feel for all of

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us listening, like for me as well, like a lot of stuff that I

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was not really aware of. And, yeah, very precious information

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you shared with us, I will make sure that all your contact

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contact info in the show notes. So don't wonder if people are

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starting to reach out to you hopefully, if they, I would

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really appreciate that. I'd be happy to help more people

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obviously. Yes, no. And especially in those tough times

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that we are all trying to navigate through. And yeah,

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we'll also put your book recommendations in there because

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I feel they're very insightful and put help more people out

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there. Thank you so much for being with us today. And yeah,

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we'll talk very soon again.

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Awesome. Yeah. Again, thanks for having me. I hope you I hope you

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found lots of value out of that. And I hope a lot of your viewers

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can, you know, take some tips, and I hope that helps them as

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well. So thank you so much.

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Thank you so much for listening to this interview. I hope it

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brought to you yeah, inside and hope when it comes to your

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finances. Don't feel alone with this well together in this. And

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yeah, as you heard, there's people out there who are willing

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to help you willing to make you feel and be more resilient with

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your finances in the future. subscribe, rate and review this

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