What do the writers' room of Succession, ABBA's recording studio, and Michelin-starred kitchens have in common?

According to social psychologist Ron Friedman, they all run on the same playbook—and it’s completely counterintuitive. Friedman analyzed over 100,000 data points for his new book, Superteams, and discovered that elite teams aren’t the ones that collaborate the most or put in the longest hours.

In this episode of Beyond the Mic, Ron goes past the data to share the messy reality of high performance. He opens up about why academia pushed him out the door, what a former telemarketer who minored in European history learned about himself, and the exact rule that slashes calendar bloat overnight.

Plus, stick around for the specific question that had Ron wondering what host Sean Dillon was going to throw at him next.

Hit play for a Beyond the Mic Short Cut with Dr. Ron Friedman!