Do you ever stop and think who your parents are actually taking their advice from?
Quote for the episode: "The goal is to have them think and evaluate and ask your opinion, if they want to, as needed."
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Joseph Okaly:Hello and welcome to the second episode of the
Joseph Okaly:"Your Parent's Money Mindset" series. Last episode, we covered
Joseph Okaly:how to start having a conversation with your parents
Joseph Okaly:about money. And today we're going to start talking about who
Joseph Okaly:they are likely talking to and taking their advice from now and
Joseph Okaly:how. So today, we're going to cover what you need to know
Joseph Okaly:about how your parents have likely made decisions up to this
Joseph Okaly:point. And what you can do to be respectful of where they are
Joseph Okaly:now, while you know at the same time raising some other points
Joseph Okaly:of view for them to at least consider.
Joseph Okaly:There comes a point where you grow up enough. Probably as it
Joseph Okaly:was for me, once I had my first job working at CVS, where you
Joseph Okaly:kind of see how hard it is to make money. I worked for a
Joseph Okaly:couple weeks, and after all the taxes and fica and all that kind
Joseph Okaly:of stuff, I got a check that I was less than enthused with- my
Joseph Okaly:minimum wage salary. So when you go to the supermarket, for me at
Joseph Okaly:least, I started to see some of the prices a little bit
Joseph Okaly:differently because I now had somewhat of a base, or a
Joseph Okaly:foundation, for how hard it was to actually make money. Previous
Joseph Okaly:to this moment, I, and maybe you, probably just threw things
Joseph Okaly:into the cart, and mom paid for it, right? I remember my first
Joseph Okaly:trip to the grocery store with my mom under this new lens, so
Joseph Okaly:to speak. We are in the dish soap aisle, and she reached over
Joseph Okaly:and grabbed a bottle of Dawn. Right next to it was a bottle of
Joseph Okaly:discounted dish soap that was half the price. And so I said,
Joseph Okaly:"Mom, you know, let's just get this one. It's much cheaper, I'm
Joseph Okaly:sure it cleans plates, it's probably fine." But she would
Joseph Okaly:have none of it. She liked Dawn, she always had Dawn, this was
Joseph Okaly:her soap. And I remember actually leaving the supermarket
Joseph Okaly:a bit heated, as it just seemed so nonsensical, irrational to me
Joseph Okaly:to pay more for the same kind of product to clean your plates.
Joseph Okaly:So what you need to know is that we all have very strong ties to
Joseph Okaly:certain products. And that goes for certain people too. Now a
Joseph Okaly:quick aside, before I kind of finish this transition, I have
Joseph Okaly:to admit that I do myself now buy Dawn. I don't know how much
Joseph Okaly:better it works than the other guys, but it reminds me of
Joseph Okaly:growing up and my mom always had it. So you know, there you go,
Joseph Okaly:they reeled me in too.
Joseph Okaly:Anyway- you can see the point. And if you think about it, I'm
Joseph Okaly:sure you have associations yourself that are very
Joseph Okaly:ingrained. If your parents do use some kind of an advisor,
Joseph Okaly:they likely have been with them for a long time at this point,
Joseph Okaly:and are very, very trusting of them. Which in and of itself is
Joseph Okaly:not a problem. If you are still using someone that you don't
Joseph Okaly:trust, you know, what are you doing, right? But the difference
Joseph Okaly:that I have seen over my 13 plus years as an advisor, is that
Joseph Okaly:generationally how you get there is very different. For our
Joseph Okaly:clients that are in their 50's 60's 70s, we tend to get a lot
Joseph Okaly:less probing questions. It's more of a you know, "You're the
Joseph Okaly:advisor, the expert, so you tell me what to do, and you know,
Joseph Okaly:I'll do it" kind of a thing. It's honestly very easy to work
Joseph Okaly:with, and we were always doing what's in their best interest
Joseph Okaly:anyway. But you know, there's a lot of different advisors out
Joseph Okaly:there. What I love about younger clients in their 30s, though, is
Joseph Okaly:that we do get more questions, which may seem odd at first. But
Joseph Okaly:you know, why do you recommend this? Well, how does that work
Joseph Okaly:exactly? What other things should we be aware of? If this
Joseph Okaly:was your situation, would you be doing the same thing? So not
Joseph Okaly:questions that are necessarily skeptical or argumentative, but
Joseph Okaly:rather really good questions to fully understand the 'why'
Joseph Okaly:behind anything we recommend, which is really fantastic. You
Joseph Okaly:should fully understand the why before you take action.
Joseph Okaly:So what you can do is again, respectfully, if you have opened
Joseph Okaly:the lines of communication so to speak for financial type items
Joseph Okaly:as we described in that last episode, you can then progress
Joseph Okaly:into some of these why questions to maybe have them more fully
Joseph Okaly:evaluate their positions. So here you can lead into questions
Joseph Okaly:such as- how confident were you that you could retire? When they
Joseph Okaly:did their kind of evaluation, what did they assume for
Joseph Okaly:longevity? How long did they assume you were even going to
Joseph Okaly:kind of live for, to not outlast your money? You have annuities,
Joseph Okaly:you know, do you know how they work exactly? Do they guarantee
Joseph Okaly:money for both of you? Does the remainder go to the kids? Does
Joseph Okaly:it go to the insurance company? When did you last review your
Joseph Okaly:beneficiaries? Do you have contingents or backups listed?
Joseph Okaly:If something were to happen to me, you know, would the money go
Joseph Okaly:to my children, or would it go, you know, to my siblings? Do you
Joseph Okaly:know which pieces of what you have transfer directly to your
Joseph Okaly:beneficiaries, versus the items that have to go through your
Joseph Okaly:will? As a quick aside, it's a lot of them. Any retirement
Joseph Okaly:accounts, or any directly titled like TOD beneficiary accounts.
Joseph Okaly:If they have multiple advisors, why do you have your money kind
Joseph Okaly:of spread out with all these different people? If they don't
Joseph Okaly:know what other pieces of your situation are out there, isn't
Joseph Okaly:it kind of hard for them to know everything they have to to make
Joseph Okaly:sure they're giving you good advice for your overall
Joseph Okaly:situation? So you obviously don't want to ask all these
Joseph Okaly:questions at the same time in repetition. And overall, you
Joseph Okaly:know, if you don't know the possible answers to these
Joseph Okaly:questions either, that's okay. So we're going to cover them
Joseph Okaly:later in this series, but I think you can sense the weight
Joseph Okaly:some of them hold.
Joseph Okaly:Shouldn't you know the longevity assumptions that were used at
Joseph Okaly:any evaluation done? If you have annuities, shouldn't you know
Joseph Okaly:how they work, and who they might ultimately go to?
Joseph Okaly:Shouldn't you know if your beneficiaries are correct? And
Joseph Okaly:what assets you have would actually go through your will,
Joseph Okaly:and what assets wouldn't? Now these are all, as far as I'm
Joseph Okaly:concerned, rhetorical questions. The answer is yes, yes, yes. But
Joseph Okaly:this is just a great starting piece for taking that next step,
Joseph Okaly:to really have them start thinking. So the first set of
Joseph Okaly:questions from the last episode, were building that bridge. Now
Joseph Okaly:that the bridge is, you know, structured to some degree, ask
Joseph Okaly:them questions for them to kind of think about and evaluate- do
Joseph Okaly:I really know everything that I should about how I'm organized?
Joseph Okaly:So a quick recap of today is- don't underestimate the trust
Joseph Okaly:your parents likely have in w oever they're working with. T
Joseph Okaly:ey likely have a very, very l ng relationship with them at t
Joseph Okaly:is point. Secondly- is while y u may be used to asking why b
Joseph Okaly:sed questions, your parents m y not be. They didn't grow up w
Joseph Okaly:th the internet to, you know, f ct check or self research e
Joseph Okaly:erything. If the professional s id it was this way, then a lot o
Joseph Okaly:times you kind of just went w th it. Lastly- if you are able t
Joseph Okaly:ask some of these more t ought provoking questions, p
Joseph Okaly:ease be respectful. Again, the g al is to have them think and e
Joseph Okaly:aluate and ask your opinion, if hey want to, as needed. The
Joseph Okaly:quickest way I guarantee you to get shut out is to go up and
Joseph Okaly:have them have their kid preach down to them- so try to a
Joseph Okaly:oid that.
Joseph Okaly:As always, thanks for tuning in today. If you are able to
Joseph Okaly:implement what we cover, then that is just fantastic as
Joseph Okaly:lways. You now have less to orry about than before and can
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Joseph Okaly:ext episode is "What About Mom? urviving Spouse = CFO", where
Joseph Okaly:e're going to cover how a urvivor spouse, statistically
Joseph Okaly:enerally the wife, have not istorically always been in the
Joseph Okaly:oop with the finances, yet ar often thrust into this role and
Joseph Okaly:of course, what you can do abou helping them in that dynamic. S
Joseph Okaly:until next week, thanks fo joining me today and I loo
Joseph Okaly:forward to connecting with yo again soon
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