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Creative engagement with digital heritage with Dr. Beth Daley
Episode 1635th March 2026 • The Art Engager • Claire Bown
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In this episode Claire Bown is joined by Dr Beth Daley, novelist, creative writing tutor and editorial advisor at Europeana, to explore how digital cultural heritage collections can become starting points for storytelling, exploration and creative engagement.

Europeana brings together millions of artworks, objects, photographs, films, texts and archival materials from museums, libraries and archives across Europe. But access alone is not enough. Beth shares how the platform invites people to move from browsing to creating through prompts, activities, and collaborative spaces.

This episode will resonate with anyone working in museums, galleries or cultural institutions who is interested in using digital collections as a starting point for storytelling, creative engagement and new ways of working with cultural heritage.

The Art Engager is written and presented by Claire Bown. Editing is by Matt Jacobs and Claire Bown. Music by Richard Bown. Support on Patreon

Episode Links:

Dr Beth Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/beth-daley-a032b537/

https://www.europeana.eu/

https://pro.europeana.eu/post/join-our-events-for-writers-and-get-creative-with-cultural-heritage - this one covers all our activities including the following:

https://pro.europeana.eu/event/europeana-writers-room-monthly-creative-writing-workshops - Europeana Writers' Room registration

https://www.europeana.eu/en/stories/six-ways-to-play-with-europeana-story-dice - Europeana story dice

https://pro.europeana.eu/page/seven-tips-for-digital-storytelling - in 16 languages

https://www.linkedin.com/in/beth-daley-a032b537/ - my LinkedIn profile

https://bethdaley.substack.com/ - my Substack page

Europeana's social media:

https://www.facebook.com/Europeana

https://bsky.app/profile/europeana.bsky.social

https://www.linkedin.com/company/europeana

https://www.instagram.com/europeana_eu/

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Transcripts

Claire Bown:

Hello and welcome to The Art Engager podcast with me, Claire Bown.

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I'm here to share techniques and tools to help you engage with your audience

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and bring art objects and ideas to life.

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So let's dive into this week's show.

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Hello, and welcome back to The Art Engager Podcast.

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I'm Claire Bown, and today I'm chatting with Dr. Beth Daley about how

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digital cultural heritage can become a starting point for storytelling,

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exploration, and meaningful engagement.

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Beth is a novelist, writing tutor and editorial advisor at Europeana, a

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platform that brings together millions of artworks, objects, and archival materials

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from organizations across Europe.

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In our conversation, we explore what Europeana is and how people

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navigate such a. Vast digital archive.

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We talk about what happens when access isn't enough and what

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helps people move from browsing to actually creating, contributing, or

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communicating with what they find.

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Beth shares how initiatives like the Europeana Writer's Room and

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story dice provide structured low barrier ways into storytelling.

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And we also unpack seven digital storytelling tips that offer a

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practical checklist for anyone shaping stories online from cultural

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professionals to independent creators.

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So if you are interested in how digital heritage can spark ideas, support

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learning, or open up new ways of working with material from the past, there's

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plenty in this conversation to think with.

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I hope you enjoy our conversation.

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Hi Beth, and welcome to The Art Engager Podcast.

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Dr Beth Daley: Thank you very much.

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It's lovely to be here.

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Thank you for having me.

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We always start with, uh, an opening question, asking you to

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tell us who you are and what you do.

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Dr Beth Daley: Okay, so my name is Beth Daley and I'm a writer, a

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cultural and creative writer, and a Europeana's editorial advisor.

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That's my job title.

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So I work with Europeana on engaging audiences, and that's anybody

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in Europeana's work and content.

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But specifically because I'm a writer, my interest is writing and storytelling.

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I work on engaging writers and the networks support them in letting

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them know that your Europeana exists and how they can use it.

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Outside of your Europeana,

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Um, I've got a PhD in creative writing, published a novel, and

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I've run workshops and, and so on myself as a, a freelance writer.

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So you've got many strands and many skills to your bow.

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Uh, you're a novelist, creative writing tutor.

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You are editorial advisor at Europeana.

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So how do these different strands of your work come together?

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Dr Beth Daley: Um, well, I think the thrust of it is that, um, Europeana

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is this huge database of material that's really useful for telling

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stories and I love telling stories.

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Uh, I am a writer, so bringing those two things together is

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really quite exciting for me.

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Quite an unusual position as well, I think to have.

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Absolutely.

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And for those who are new to it let's talk a little bit about what Europeana is now.

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I've used it many times.

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I've gone down many a rabbit hole, um, on the platform, but perhaps

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you could spell it out for everyone listening what it is, who might

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use it, and how they might use it

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Dr Beth Daley: Absolutely.

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So Europeana is a website.

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It's funded by the European Commission.

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And basically it's a website you can go to search for digital cultural heritage.

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So think of it as Europe's digital museum, or library or archive.

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So it gives you access to, I think currently 61 million things.

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So that might be pictures or photographs or artworks.

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It might be sound files, it might be videos, texts, or books or even 3D models.

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And those cover sort of almost any subject you can think of.

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If you think of all the, the libraries and museums that cover

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these vast range of subjects about, human history and heritage.

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It's all there on one website.

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And the idea is one that you, that it's there, that it exists, you can go and look

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at it, but two, that you can also use it.

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So you can use it for learning, you can use it for research, you can use it for

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creative purposes, or you can just go and, you know, have a bit of fun exploring it

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So the way you just described it as a sort of content platform with

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access to all these amazing collections.

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But when someone arrives on the platform for the first time, what do you hope

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they feel invited to do or to explore?

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How might they use this platform specifically?

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Okay,

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Dr Beth Daley: so the first thing you'll see is a search bar.

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And so it's just like any other website you've been on where you, you

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search for something, you think of something you're interested in, you

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type in the search and you get results.

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Let's say I might look for mermaids.

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I might type in the word mermaids and I'll get pictures and texts and all sorts

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of things about mermaids from museums and libraries across Europe and beyond.

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And then there are are filters.

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So you might, you might put a search and it gets you.

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Literally millions of things back.

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So you need to narrow it down so you can narrow it down by where

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it comes from what language that, that the information is written in.

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Even colors that are included in, in the pictures, you can search

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by color, which is quite fun.

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So that's one way, but you might not know what you want to search for.

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So there are other ways as well exploring the collections.

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There's a page called collections, which kind of has curated.

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Um, groupings of the items.

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So you look at thematic things like industrial heritage or

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fashion, you can look at galleries that people have created.

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So that's, um, either our team or partners or members of the public creating their

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own, selections of things and then having them published our website.

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And there's a bit on there that I particularly like, which is

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called Popular Items so you can see what people have been looking at.

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So that constantly changes and it's always, uh, really interesting.

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And if you're a writer, which well we'll get to in a minute, that's

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a great place to go to because you are always gonna get something

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new that you can use as a prompt.

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And in addition to that there's a page called Stories, which is where you

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can find blog posts and exhibitions that our team or our partners

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have written which brings together those items, which can be from.

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But the magic of Europeana is that you bring together collections from

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different countries and different types of institutions so you get a greater

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context about a particular topic.

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So those stories and exhibitions present that to you rather than you having to

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go and look at each individual item.

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So there's loads of different ways that you can explore Europeana, and I would

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say just go for it and have a go because you can't break anything and you'll find

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something that interests you of that.

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I have absolutely no doubt.

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Yeah.

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And I see it very much as this kind of invitation to play as well.

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Yeah, we can, we'll get onto that, I'm sure.

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But also being part of some sort of community, maybe connecting

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personally with some of the, um, objects and items that are there, even

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maybe an opportunity to slow down.

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But we are gonna talk first about using those images as kind

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of inspiration and research for writers almost as a springboard.

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So I think much of your work at Europeana involves inviting people to engage

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creatively with the objects there, with artworks and heritage collections.

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And this is often through writing.

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So let's start by thinking about what is it about starting from

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collections that makes it easier to start writing than when you are

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sitting down with a pen and a paper and you're faced with the the blank page?

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Dr Beth Daley: Yeah, well I think one of the things to sort of remember is

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that writers have always used libraries.

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Libraries have always been a place that writers can go for information to search

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things, but also for community as well.

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And so if writers have used libraries, you know, as long as

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libraries have existed, why not?

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Why wouldn't they wanna use an online version as well?

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So that was where our sort of thinking started from.

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And, um.

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I think there's two main ways to, to use the collections.

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One is for inspiration and one is for specific research.

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If you are looking, you know, if you're writing a book and you've got

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specific questions about, let's say 18th century, uh, fashions in France, you

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could go and find something like that.

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But in terms of inspiration and, and how to get started with a piece of writing.

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I think it's, it's wonderful because you look up something,

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you bring up a, a random search or you just pick something from that

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popular item section, for example.

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And there's the starting point.

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You don't have a blank page, you have a starting point already.

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You have an image.

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Um, and you might have a little bit of information.

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How much information there is about an item.

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Very much depends.

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Some have a lot, some don't have much, but you've always got something to begin with.

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So you can just, I, I love free writing so you can just set your timer for,

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let's say three minutes and say, okay, I dunno what's gonna happen, but I'm

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gonna use this image, or I'm gonna watch this video and I'm gonna just

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see what happens and I'm gonna write.

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And I'm always.

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Fascinated because this is what we do in the events we run, is that

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you give one prompt one visual artwork, for example, and everybody

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comes up with something completely different, which is just wonderful.

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So I said there were 61 million things in Europeana, and that means

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there is 61 million stories to tell because all of those things have,

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well, let's, it's infinite 'cause they have more than one story.

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But that's so many things that you can use as a starting point.

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Um, I think it's really interesting.

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You can find things that you know you just didn't know were there.

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If you think about all the things that are in, um, museum stores that they don't

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get a chance to put in the, the physical museum, like lots of those things are in

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Europeana because they've been digitized.

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Maybe partly because they can't go on display or, you know, for other reasons.

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And so you can have access to stuff that you wouldn't normally have access

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to, sort of in physical, real life.

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So.

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It's a treasure trove.

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It's a world of wonder, I think.

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Dr Beth Daley: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So it's, it's really thinking about kind of removing that pressure of

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having to come up with something from scratch and the object or item

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or thing that you are looking at is there, is that kind of inspiration.

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Um, and as you say, it can bring up all sorts of things, can spark curiosity

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and you know, it can bring up all sorts of different perspectives as well.

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But you also mentioned that there's 61 million items there.

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So with large digital collections or with any digital collection,

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and I find this myself that I tend to go down a bit of a rabbit hole.

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So it's very interesting to start with.

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I'll start looking at one thing that will lead to somewhere else and somewhere else.

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And before I know it, a few hours have gone past.

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Yeah.

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So what helps move people from just looking at the material which in

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itself is a very pleasurable activity, to actively doing something with it.

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Dr Beth Daley: That's a great question and I'm so pleased to hear that you

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enjoy, uh, this kind of exploration.

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And I think that's the first thing.

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Enjoy the rabbit hole at least for a while because you can find, like

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I say, things that you didn't know existed and get some really good

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inspiration from what you find.

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There are a few, ways that you can collect or maybe start to narrow

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down what it is you're looking at.

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So I would encourage people to create a free account on Europeana so that

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you can make your own gallery so you can keep the things that you really,

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really like and come back to them.

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And then maybe start to think about I create galleries depending on themes

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and depending on what I'm working on and what I'm i'm looking at, you can hold

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onto it and come back to it later and go, oh yeah, I really loved that one.

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I'm gonna do something with that.

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Um, but we also put together we have created events and programs that people

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can join in with so that they can have a goal and have an outcome and get together

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and, and do something with other people.

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So for example, we have our monthly Europeana writers Room.

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So you can come along to that and, um, I will do the rabbit hole for you.

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I will have a theme and present you with some visual artworks or

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objects and give you prompts so that you can start something there.

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, We also take part in 'gif it up' every year, which is a contest using

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open collections, Europeana and others to create animated gifts.

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So if you are technically minded like that, you might want

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to use that as your outcome.

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Um, we also sometimes run collage workshops or we have a, a collage book

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you can download and use to make collages like coloring books, which are very nice.

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And if you are very technically minded and you would like to use some of this stuff.

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Uh, for, for example, video games or web uh, projects, we have APIs as well

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so that people can import particular searches, what have you, from the

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Europeana massive dataset and, and include them in, in some kind of

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creative digital project like that.

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So there are lots of concrete ways, um, that we offer that you can do something

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practical with your rabbit hole findings.

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I guess with your experience, the platform has been going for a

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number of years now, um, and there's lots of different formats that you

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offer, but have you learned more about the different kinds of support people

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need to be able to engage creatively with digital heritage in this way?

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Dr Beth Daley: Yeah, that's a good question and I think the first thing is.

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People knowing that the resource exists, that Europeana is there for them.

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And after that, you know, creative people will do creative things, uh,

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you know, if given the resource.

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So that's the really big one, I think.

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The second thing is knowing about licensing, which might be a bit

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boring, but it's really important if you're gonna do something,

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uh, especially professionally with culture, heritage content.

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So on Europeana, every single item has, a rights statement.

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So that means you can see if it's in copyright.

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If it's in the public domain or if it's one of the sort creative commons licenses

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that lies somewhere between those things.

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So you can see whether you can use it.

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And there's a really useful filter, uh, when you're filtering down your results

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that literally says, can I use this?

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And your options are divided into Yes, yes.

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With limitations, I think.

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And possibly you'll have to contact the.

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The provider to find out.

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So Europeana doesn't own these items.

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The, the museums and libraries and archives own the cultural heritage items.

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We just display them and give access to them.

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So we are not in charge of the licensing.

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So we show what can be done with that item.

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And then if you wanna know more about it, you have to go through

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to the providing institution and see what you can do with it.

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But I think about 50% of the items on your piano are what we call open licenses.

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So you can use them, but either in the public domain or they are licensed such

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that you are permitted to use them.

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And it is always good practice to say where you've got them from to credit

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them, um, and to license whatever you're doing with that in the same

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way as those licenses allow you to.

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So that's really important, knowing about licensing.

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Um, and then like you said earlier you can go down rabbit holes, but

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you might want more structure.

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So that's support that we offer and that we are continuing to develop.

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So we are starting to work on more tutorials, um, and workshops and having

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these downloadable resources like the collage book that I mentioned, and we

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have story dice, which are particularly useful for writers and, uh, people working

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with young people perhaps in education, um, working on creativity or writing the

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story that are really useful for that.

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And like I say, we're working more on this area, so if anyone has any thoughts

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about what they would need to be able to implement Europeana's resources in

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whatever field they work in, do get in touch because we'd love to hear from you.

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So you've mentioned, uh, some of the creative tools and activities

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and structures that Europeana has created alongside the collections on the platform.

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Um, can we go back to the writer's room?

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'cause I think this sounds, uh, super interesting, kind community for

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writers happens on a monthly basis.

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Can you tell me a little bit about what kind of space it is and

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what does meeting regularly make possible for the participants?

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Dr Beth Daley: Okay, so the Europeana Writer's Room happens once a month,

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usually on the first Wednesday of the month, and it's a session that takes

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place on Zoom, uh, facilitated by myself.

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And every month we have a theme.

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Um, so the one coming up, uh, that I'm working on right now is about creativity

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from uncertainty because there is so much uncertainty and anxiety in the world at

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the moment, and I thought it would be nice to, let's just explore that little

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bit using culture, heritage collections.

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So what we do is meet together on Zoom and we go into, we use

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something called Mentimeter.

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Which is, an online, experience, user QR code or, or a link to get into it.

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And the prompts and the questions appear on your screen or on your

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phone, and you can answer on there.

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And then all the results show on the zoom screen so that we can

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all see what we've done together.

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So we can create, uh, like word clouds to answer a question

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or short answers to a prompt.

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So it might be I put up a picture and say.

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Just simply how does this make you feel?

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And people put some emotions up there, or, um, we've got one coming up on women

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in mythology, so I've been thinking about the kinds of questions I could ask there

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About, um, Scheherazade the 1001 nights and how each of her

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stories ended in a cliffhanger.

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So I'm gonna ask people to write a cliffhanger, you

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know, just a short sentence.

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And then we, we have a little look at them and we just kind of.

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Enjoy the fact that everybody has put in something different.

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And so they're kind of warmups.

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And then we go to sort of free writing.

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So we usually have three five minute free writes.

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Again, themed on whatever the theme is we're talking about at that moment.

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And people have five minutes quiet to write on their own.

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So that's not in the Mentimeter, this is not shared, it's just is for themselves.

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And then if they wish to, they tell me in the chat, you know, how they've

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got on whether they enjoyed it which ones they got stuck on, which ones

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kind of flowed better for them.

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Sometimes people share what, a little bit of what they've written,

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but they, they don't have to, that.

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Not why we are there.

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The purpose of it is to give people a chance to get over their blank

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page, a chance to have an hour of creativity in their month, and we find

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we get some really lovely comments and feedback to say that just simply

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that is really valuable for people.

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And I think especially, you know, people who are working really hard,

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really busy, maybe even at technical jobs or whatever, they, having an hour

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of creativity is hugely valuable to them and more so than they kind of

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think when they join at the beginning.

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So the writers' rooms are a low barrier to access.

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I think they're really easy to join in.

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It's a really gentle space for people to come.

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And.

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The different themes every month being that there's always new stories

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to tell and keep people coming back.

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And we've only started this in September, 2025, so we're developing, a group

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of people who are returning, which is really nice to see while still

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getting new people every time as well.

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So it's developing and it's, it's really.

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Really lovely to see that people are enjoying it and that they're starting

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to use Europeana for this purpose.

Claire Bown:

Yeah, it's such a, a lovely idea that kind of safeguarding

Claire Bown:

that time, even if it's an hour a month to be creative, to explore

Claire Bown:

some wonderful images or whatever you might be bringing up for them.

Claire Bown:

I love the sound of that.

Claire Bown:

And you also mentioned the story dice.

Claire Bown:

These are really playful.

Claire Bown:

Can you perhaps describe them to our listeners who may not

Claire Bown:

be able to see them right now?

Claire Bown:

And.

Claire Bown:

Tell us a little bit about what you were hoping these story dice

Claire Bown:

might make easier for people, uh, encountering digital heritage.

Claire Bown:

Dr Beth Daley: Absolutely.

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So these story dice we launched on World Storytelling Day last year, and it is a

Claire Bown:

PDF download that you can get from the website that you then cut out and fold up.

Claire Bown:

And what you end up with is six cubes.

Claire Bown:

Cardboard or paper, whatever you printed them out on with a

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different picture on each side.

Claire Bown:

So they're dice and they've got pictures on each side.

Claire Bown:

And each dice has a different theme.

Claire Bown:

So there might be one with characters.

Claire Bown:

So portraits from the collections of people, different genders, different ages.

Claire Bown:

We've got one with, uh, again, uh, portraits, but they're.

Claire Bown:

That's for different expressions, different moods.

Claire Bown:

We've got one with landscapes and weather.

Claire Bown:

We've got one with transport.

Claire Bown:

There's one with some lovely random objects on it.

Claire Bown:

So you can roll the dice and choose an image and well, it's open-ended, so

Claire Bown:

how you use it is completely up to you.

Claire Bown:

But they're really good for individuals or for group work.

Claire Bown:

Um, let's say you could use it to, for, for storytelling or you could use it some

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kind of problem solving or discussion.

Claire Bown:

And on the website we've got, um, six examples of different ways to use them.

Claire Bown:

And that webpage is translated into all the Europeana Union languages.

Claire Bown:

Um, and the story dice itself don't have any text on them, so there.

Claire Bown:

Uh, easy to use for anybody in any language, which is great.

Claire Bown:

So for an example, you could roll all six dice and then try to write a story

Claire Bown:

or tell a story that includes the images that are on the top when you throw them.

Claire Bown:

Or maybe you're in a group and the first person rolls one and they

Claire Bown:

start the story, then the next person rolls another one and incorporates

Claire Bown:

whatever they see on that one.

Claire Bown:

There's also a few games on there.

Claire Bown:

Uh, there's a way of using it like as a Beatle drive kind of game, or maybe it's

Claire Bown:

consequences, you know, where everybody adds a, a to a story as you go along.

Claire Bown:

But like I said, it's open-ended, so it really is up to, um.

Claire Bown:

To facilitator or person using them to see where it takes.

Claire Bown:

And also just really beautiful.

Claire Bown:

So if you just print them out on a nice card and have them in your

Claire Bown:

room or in your office, there was something tactile to sort of be around,

Claire Bown:

they're, they're really beautiful.

Claire Bown:

So wonderful resources that you developed.

Claire Bown:

I think you've also got some longer form support as well, training

Claire Bown:

courses, residencies, awards.

Claire Bown:

Can you talk a little bit about those options as well?

Claire Bown:

Dr Beth Daley: Yep, sure.

Claire Bown:

So we have something called the Europeana Academy, which offers free online

Claire Bown:

courses for a whole range of things.

Claire Bown:

So behind that Europeana EU website is a massive network of professionals and

Claire Bown:

processes and structures that makes.

Claire Bown:

Europeana happen.

Claire Bown:

So there are courses that are really technical that relate to some of

Claire Bown:

those processes, but there are also, um, storytelling courses.

Claire Bown:

So we've got one, uh, that introduces you to Europeana collections and stories.

Claire Bown:

And then we have another about how to tell great stories and, uh, and even

Claire Bown:

to write the Europeana if you want to.

Claire Bown:

And we, they are on the Europeana Academy constantly.

Claire Bown:

You can log on and take them, but we also every quarter run.

Claire Bown:

Uh, zoom sessions where I'll lead you through those courses so you can go and

Claire Bown:

do them and come back and feedback and ask questions and talk to, you know,

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a cohort of people who are doing at the same time, which is really nice.

Claire Bown:

So there's that one.

Claire Bown:

Every year we run a digital storytelling festival, which takes place this

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year on the 19th and 20th of May.

Claire Bown:

And that is an online, it's like a conference to do with.

Claire Bown:

Digital storytelling.

Claire Bown:

So we invite speakers from, not just from the culture, heritage sector, but from

Claire Bown:

beyond as well, that are doing really interesting things in storytelling.

Claire Bown:

And with that also includes workshops and sort of social moments like quizzes

Claire Bown:

or, uh, we've had sessions where we listen to, uh, music together and

Claire Bown:

answer questions as we go through.

Claire Bown:

And from that storytelling festival.

Claire Bown:

We heard from our audiences that they'd really like, uh, the

Claire Bown:

opportunity to dive in deeper.

Claire Bown:

So we've got the workshops in that festival, but they'd

Claire Bown:

like to do something more.

Claire Bown:

So we developed the online Creative Residency, which is in its fourth year

Claire Bown:

and has just opened for applications.

Claire Bown:

They closed on the 20th of March.

Claire Bown:

And that is where we have, uh, we invite participants to, um.

Claire Bown:

To use your piano collections on a particular theme in a range of

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formats to produce something new.

Claire Bown:

So this year our theme is science, which is very broad, and we have

Claire Bown:

formats such as creative writing where people can, uh, produce, uh, some

Claire Bown:

poetry or prose or something else.

Claire Bown:

And things like stop motion animation, gif animation.

Claire Bown:

We've got video, social media.

Claire Bown:

We are developing, uh, walking tours this year, in fact.

Claire Bown:

And final one.

Claire Bown:

Is collage art, so you can apply for any one of those uh, formats

Claire Bown:

on your work with a mentor.

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I'm the mentor for the creative writing section, and over a couple of months in

Claire Bown:

the the summer we were in workshops, we help people navigate the website, learn

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about the licensing I mentioned earlier.

Claire Bown:

Learn how to use that cultural heritage to, to create something

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in their chosen format.

Claire Bown:

And then we hopefully see that published on Europeana or on a, on

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a, a relevant social media platform or YouTube or what have you.

Claire Bown:

And that means that the participants get, they, first of all, they get to,

Claire Bown:

they get to learn together with a group.

Claire Bown:

They also get one-to-one skill building with a, with an expert

Claire Bown:

in that area, which is, uh.

Claire Bown:

Is really valuable to them.

Claire Bown:

And particularly we found that students and young people don't

Claire Bown:

necessarily always get that one-to-one mentoring anymore at universities.

Claire Bown:

It's changed quite a lot since, since I was at university, so

Claire Bown:

having that opportunity can be really, really valuable to them.

Claire Bown:

Yeah.

Claire Bown:

And there was one more that you mentioned, the awards, the Europeana

Claire Bown:

Creative Climate Action Award.

Claire Bown:

We have run for the first time this year, applications are

Claire Bown:

closed and we're in the middle of judging, so the Europeana network.

Claire Bown:

Which is one of those one of those structures behind the Europeana,

Claire Bown:

uh, sort of initiative has uh, lemme start that one again.

Claire Bown:

So the Europeana has, uh, something called the Europeana Network Association,

Claire Bown:

which is a huge network of professionals who are interested in culture and

Claire Bown:

heritage, or in technology or in both.

Claire Bown:

And they can join the network and contribute to sort of the

Claire Bown:

Europeana initiative as a whole.

Claire Bown:

And it has, a selection of communities and one of them is about climate action.

Claire Bown:

So we have joined forces with the Climate Action Community this

Claire Bown:

year to run our first ever ANA Creative Climate Action award.

Claire Bown:

So what we did was we created a gallery of images on Europeana that related to

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nature and climate, and then we asked people to respond to them in the less

Claire Bown:

than 500 words of poetry or prose.

Claire Bown:

And we are in the process of judging those and we hope to have

Claire Bown:

an exhibition with the winners, uh, for a Earth Day later this year.

Claire Bown:

And hopefully to run something similar again in the future because

Claire Bown:

we've had a really good response.

Claire Bown:

People like to have that specific way of interacting with the collections

Claire Bown:

and producing something, but they also like to be able to interact with, I

Claire Bown:

guess the issues of today, like the things that are relevant to them.

Claire Bown:

So climate action is one of those things.

Claire Bown:

So using this historical heritage material, but.

Claire Bown:

Interacting with a relevant sort of modern problem is, has been really valuable.

Claire Bown:

So a huge range of tools, activities courses,

Claire Bown:

platforms, residencies, wards, all the things that you described there.

Claire Bown:

And I think it was really useful to kind of go through them all, um, because

Claire Bown:

now I'd like to really think about the listeners of this podcast, many of whom

Claire Bown:

work in museums or heritage organizations, and how might they think of using or use

Claire Bown:

Europeana as a resource when designing their own creative or story storytelling

Claire Bown:

activities around collections.

Claire Bown:

Dr Beth Daley: That's a really great question.

Claire Bown:

I think what some of the things that we've learned about designing

Claire Bown:

these creative engagements.

Claire Bown:

Is that, um, and things that then other people could do too is that

Claire Bown:

it's important to allow people that time to explore the collections.

Claire Bown:

You know, you mentioned loving doing that and going down that rabbit

Claire Bown:

hole, and I think it's important that you get chance to do that.

Claire Bown:

To build familiarity with the collections and the themes that

Claire Bown:

you might be interested in.

Claire Bown:

Um, we like to give people that chance to understand, you know, the search functions

Claire Bown:

and, and the copyright you know, the right statements that they might need to know

Claire Bown:

about before they embark on their project.

Claire Bown:

We also like to make the sessions and the interactions really practical.

Claire Bown:

So that you are giving participants some, some space and some dedicated time to, to

Claire Bown:

learn or to create or to make something.

Claire Bown:

We also encourage exploration in sort of small iterative ways.

Claire Bown:

Like I said, the writer's room is, it has these very small little, uh, warmups

Claire Bown:

and then free writes, um, so that you can build, um, on a theme and, and

Claire Bown:

develop a bit of confidence, I think, as well, rather than going straight into a

Claire Bown:

huge endeavor, you can go step by step.

Claire Bown:

So yeah, it's more about the process than the end result some of the time.

Claire Bown:

Um, I think being able to use cultural heritage collections means that your

Claire Bown:

participants can explore their own interests as well, and their own

Claire Bown:

backgrounds and their own cultural heritage and incorporate that.

Claire Bown:

So I think it's nice to be open to what their participants will bring to

Claire Bown:

a session or to a project rather than necessarily give them everything and say,

Claire Bown:

right, your, these are your boundaries.

Claire Bown:

Allow them to bring their own experiences to those projects as well.

Claire Bown:

And I think that's super interesting as well because, it's less

Claire Bown:

a case of opening up the collection for people to have a good dig around and more

Claire Bown:

about thinking, okay, we have that, but what, what can we offer on top of that

Claire Bown:

might enable people to engage in different ways with what we have in our collections?

Claire Bown:

And you've also developed this set of seven digital storytelling tips.

Claire Bown:

Can you briefly explain something about those and why those were created?

Claire Bown:

Dr Beth Daley: So yeah, we have seven tips for cultural heritage professionals,

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but they are really applicable to storytelling in all sorts of settings.

Claire Bown:

So you don't need to be a cultural heritage professional

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to, to benefit from them.

Claire Bown:

I'll tell you about where they came from.

Claire Bown:

We had what we call a task force, so kind of like a working group of, of

Claire Bown:

professionals from our network that I mentioned earlier, um, who came together

Claire Bown:

to explore the idea of Europeana being a powerful platform for storytelling.

Claire Bown:

Um, which is something that the Europeana, um, commission had called it.

Claire Bown:

And I thought to myself, well, what does it mean to be a powerful

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platform for storytelling?

Claire Bown:

How can we develop this?

Claire Bown:

So this task force of, I think about 26, 28 people from different countries

Claire Bown:

all around world came together online during COVID, actually it was

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our first fully online task force.

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And we.

Claire Bown:

Looked at storytelling experiences digital storytelling

Claire Bown:

experiences online that we liked.

Claire Bown:

That was a single criteria was go out and find something that you enjoy or

Claire Bown:

you react to emotionally and recreated a long list of these experiences.

Claire Bown:

So they might have been videos that might have been exhibitions,

Claire Bown:

there might have been little games, there might have been social media

Claire Bown:

series of posts, anything like that.

Claire Bown:

And then we sort of analyzed them.

Claire Bown:

And we came up with a short list of three sort of very different experiences.

Claire Bown:

And we looked at, okay, well we liked them.

Claire Bown:

That was our criteria, but what did those, uh, creators of those

Claire Bown:

experiences do to make us like them?

Claire Bown:

And outta that, we came up with this sort of trend of approaches.

Claire Bown:

That creators tend to use and we enjoy their experiences.

Claire Bown:

So these, I think the seven things that are not rocket science.

Claire Bown:

They're, uh, very straightforward and they're really, really good

Claire Bown:

checklist, I think for when you are starting a storytelling project.

Claire Bown:

And that might be your.

Claire Bown:

Developing a website or you're developing a presentation that you're gonna do, or,

Claire Bown:

uh, you know, writing, writing an article.

Claire Bown:

And you can use 'em as a checklist at the beginning, but also if you start to get

Claire Bown:

stuck, you might think, well, something's not quite right, but I'm not sure.

Claire Bown:

You can come back to this list of storytelling tips and go, okay, I see.

Claire Bown:

Now I, I've missed out that one.

Claire Bown:

Not that you would use all seven necessarily every time.

Claire Bown:

And then, you know, when you get to the end, have I hit all these points

Claire Bown:

or is there anything that's weaker?

Claire Bown:

So I'll tell you very briefly what they are.

Claire Bown:

You can go on, uh, a website and find all sorts of different formations of them.

Claire Bown:

We've got a video, we've got infographics, we've got them in many languages.

Claire Bown:

Um, so I won't go into huge detail of them now, but things like be

Claire Bown:

personal and I think we often forget that we can do that as professionals.

Claire Bown:

I think.

Claire Bown:

We maybe start to, we we're good at storytelling when we're younger because

Claire Bown:

it comes naturally, it's a very human thing, but through education and

Claire Bown:

through professional structures, we kind of lose that ability to connect

Claire Bown:

with ourselves, I think, as well.

Claire Bown:

And the human elements, this is all about bringing the human

Claire Bown:

element back into it, really.

Claire Bown:

So be personal.

Claire Bown:

Why do you connect with the story?

Claire Bown:

Who in the story can you connect with?

Claire Bown:

How can you connect with the audiences?

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Uh, be informal but expert.

Claire Bown:

So that's about being accessible.

Claire Bown:

So we don't wanna inundate people with too much academic or technical language sort

Claire Bown:

meet people in the language that they use.

Claire Bown:

Really important for cultural heritage is about telling hidden stories.

Claire Bown:

So lots of the collections that we have across Europe and the world tell history

Claire Bown:

from quite a one-sided perspective.

Claire Bown:

So have a look and see whose voice is not being heard there.

Claire Bown:

What else can you tell, which is quite hard if it's not there front of you.

Claire Bown:

But you can also use your audiences to help you discover and to

Claire Bown:

contribute to telling those stories.

Claire Bown:

Uh, specifically for, um, visual storytelling, illustrate your points.

Claire Bown:

So you can use the culture heritage material, or you could

Claire Bown:

use video, you could use diagrams.

Claire Bown:

You can break up your story with illustrations and signpost your journey.

Claire Bown:

So this is all about letting the audience know that they're in good

Claire Bown:

hands, that they're being taken through the journey with a, you know, they've

Claire Bown:

got a good leader to take them through.

Claire Bown:

So that might be to do with.

Claire Bown:

Navigation on a website, making sure your navigation is sensible and easy to follow.

Claire Bown:

Might be to do with headings and subheadings, making sure that A,

Claire Bown:

they exist and B, they useful, which is also really good for, you

Claire Bown:

know, SEO and that kind of thing.

Claire Bown:

Then the last two, you know, be specific.

Claire Bown:

This is one that always surprised me a little bit.

Claire Bown:

'cause when we looked at the examples, my instinct would be that people,

Claire Bown:

these storytelling experiences that were successful would kind of

Claire Bown:

give you a, a big picture and maybe then hone in on something specific.

Claire Bown:

But they didn't, they did the opposite.

Claire Bown:

They started with something maybe specific and they held onto that maybe expanding

Claire Bown:

and contracting and going in different directions where they always held that

Claire Bown:

very specific goal or idea throughout.

Claire Bown:

Um.

Claire Bown:

And with writing as well, I would say lean on the detail.

Claire Bown:

That's really useful.

Claire Bown:

That's what brings writing to life.

Claire Bown:

So be specific.

Claire Bown:

And the final one, which I think is again, really difficult for professionals

Claire Bown:

sometimes is to be evocative.

Claire Bown:

So just because you are producing something professional doesn't

Claire Bown:

mean it can't be, uh, emotive.

Claire Bown:

Doesn't mean you can't play little bit or experiment with language.

Claire Bown:

Um, or structure, uh, I think just to have a go and what you do when you're

Claire Bown:

preparing a story doesn't have to be what, what goes out in the end if

Claire Bown:

indeed you're working on something that has a, a publication as an outcome.

Claire Bown:

So give yourself time and space to experiment and try things

Claire Bown:

and, uh, yeah, be evocative.

Claire Bown:

So they're really good for, for helping you scaffold your story,

Claire Bown:

but also to help you experiment.

Claire Bown:

So, bye.

Claire Bown:

I love these tips and I think they're really useful still several years

Claire Bown:

on after we put them together.

Claire Bown:

So I'd encourage anyone to go click on the link, find the seven storytelling

Claire Bown:

tips from Europeana, and, and I hope that they'll be really useful for people.

Claire Bown:

Yeah, I can see there would be, and we'll put the

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link in the show notes as well.

Claire Bown:

I think it's very widely applicable to lots of different situations

Claire Bown:

and circumstances as well.

Claire Bown:

And I think they're so useful in helping people think about how stories are

Claire Bown:

communicated, not just what stories.

Claire Bown:

So when we are thinking about information in that way, how are we

Claire Bown:

sharing the information, not just what information we are sharing?

Claire Bown:

And it's always worth bearing that in mind.

Claire Bown:

You mentioned there for that kind of task force that you work across

Claire Bown:

countries and languages and cultures, and this must mean that you must have

Claire Bown:

learned a huge amount about designing these kind of creative invitations

Claire Bown:

that can work at scale at Europeana

Claire Bown:

Dr Beth Daley: So yeah, our website exists in all the EU languages.

Claire Bown:

We have our network, which has people from all over the world and it, and,

Claire Bown:

um, yeah, so there is so much culture and so much languages and experience

Claire Bown:

to be represented in the collection.

Claire Bown:

So we do try to, to reflect that as well in our experiences.

Claire Bown:

And with our creative sessions we do look for participants or centered approach.

Claire Bown:

We also have people who are like zine workshops, for example.

Claire Bown:

And we encourage people to sort of bring their own stories and values and

Claire Bown:

cultures to the sessions so that they find something meaningful to their.

Claire Bown:

But like also as I mentioned with the hidden stories element, there are

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marginalized voices and perspectives that are entirely missing from

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cultural heritage, um, collections.

Claire Bown:

We do have a group within the Europeana Foundation that works

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on diversity and inclusion.

Claire Bown:

We have we contribute to Women's History Month, black history

Claire Bown:

month pride month with our.

Claire Bown:

Activities and with our editorial as well.

Claire Bown:

So we're always trying to look for ways to make sure that people feel that

Claire Bown:

they're represented in cultural heritage.

Claire Bown:

And as I mentioned earlier, the seven tips and the st story dice

Claire Bown:

resources that are translated into, into many languages as well.

Claire Bown:

So yeah we are conscious of the, the diversity of the audience and do try to

Claire Bown:

make sure that everybody can access and is represented and feels welcome and is safe.

Claire Bown:

We also it's quite interesting, have, um, inclusive engagement guidelines

Claire Bown:

for all of the events that we run, which we share at the beginning of

Claire Bown:

an event which I'm not sure so many organizations do yet, at least.

Claire Bown:

Um, so that is a really nice example I think of making sure that people feel

Claire Bown:

included and safe in our activities.

Claire Bown:

I love that.

Claire Bown:

So if a listener is listening to this and they're thinking, oh, I'm really keen

Claire Bown:

now to go and visit Europeana, what's one simple thing you'd encourage them to try?

Claire Bown:

Or where would you like them to start?

Claire Bown:

Dr Beth Daley: I think just dive in.

Claire Bown:

I mean, like I said earlier, you can't break anything.

Claire Bown:

It's a website.

Claire Bown:

So go to Europeana.eu, type something in and see what happens.

Claire Bown:

And yeah, I'll reiterate that I really like the today's popular

Claire Bown:

items section, which you could find on the collections page.

Claire Bown:

Or just go to the stories and dive in.

Claire Bown:

You can follow us on social media.

Claire Bown:

That's maybe a really easy way you don't have to think of

Claire Bown:

what you want to search for.

Claire Bown:

We'll share things that they're interesting and sort of timely

Claire Bown:

or relevant, um, as well.

Claire Bown:

So yeah, you can find us on places like Facebook and Blue Sky and LinkedIn and

Claire Bown:

Instagram and say, yeah, follow us.

Claire Bown:

Brilliant.

Claire Bown:

And what are you excited about for the coming year?

Claire Bown:

What's coming up for you?

Claire Bown:

You've mentioned the digital storytelling festival.

Claire Bown:

Anything else that you are working on?

Claire Bown:

Dr Beth Daley: I am looking forward to showcasing the winners of the

Claire Bown:

Climate Action Award because that's our, I say our first creative

Claire Bown:

writing contest of that kind.

Claire Bown:

So I'm really excited about that.

Claire Bown:

And also working on the online creative residency.

Claire Bown:

We're working this year with review as well, which is a, a platform that does

Claire Bown:

showcases ekphrastic writing, which is just writing inspired by artworks.

Claire Bown:

So that's where the online residency writing outcomes will be published.

Claire Bown:

So that's quite exciting.

Claire Bown:

And of course, as you mentioned, the Digital Storytelling Festival

Claire Bown:

on the 19th and 20th of May.

Claire Bown:

Brilliant.

Claire Bown:

So, um, how can people find out more about you?

Claire Bown:

Where are the best places to go?

Claire Bown:

You already mentioned social media, we'll put all the links in the

Claire Bown:

show notes, but is there anywhere else that people should go to?

Claire Bown:

Dr Beth Daley: Yeah, I mentioned if you wanna follow Europeana,

Claire Bown:

you can follow our social media.

Claire Bown:

I would suggest that you also, uh, sign up for our events newsletter

Claire Bown:

so you can join, uh, the events.

Claire Bown:

And if you want to follow me specifically, you can find me on LinkedIn and substack.

Claire Bown:

Brilliant.

Claire Bown:

Uh, thank you so much for joining me today to talk about amazing

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work that you do at Europeana.

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And yeah, thank you for having this chat.

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Dr Beth Daley: Thank you.

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So a huge thank you to Beth for being on the show today.

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You can explore Europeana, find the story dice, the writer's room, and

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the seven digital storytelling tips via the links in the show notes.

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I'd really encourage you to click through and try something simple this week.

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Perhaps start with one image and a five minute free write.

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If you've enjoyed this episode or if any of the previous episodes of The Art

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Engager have supported your practice, please consider supporting the podcast.

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You can become a friend of the podcast on Patreon, or you can pick up a

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Available wherever you buy your books.

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That's it for today.

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I'll see you next time.

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Bye.

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Thank you for listening to The Art Engager podcast with me, Claire Bown.

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You can find more art engagement resources by visiting my website,

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thinking museum.com, and you can also find me on Instagram at Thinking

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Museum, where I regularly share tips and tools on how to bring art

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