It's a new season, which means Ben from Last Time On joins Laura and Xhafer to discuss the final BSG season opener. Ben is down for a Mr. Beast challenge. Laura proposes a twinkle-light connection. Xhafer gets distracted by word choice. This episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 4, Episode 1: He That Believeth in Me.

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Hello and welcome to Who Are You?

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We're a reasonably well done sci-fi watch

cast by a couple of former strangers

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who are now friends and watching

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I'm Laura.

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Xhafer: I'm,

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The Plan: and I am Ben.

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Xhafer: Hey Ben, how you doing?

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I say like, we didn't record an episode

of LTO within the last 12 hours.

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uh, Thanks for joining us for the fourth

time on a season premiere episode.

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Laura: Yeah, he's our season one guy.

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The Plan: yeah, it's,

it's been a fun tradition.

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It's not always the best episode

of the season, but it is the first.

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Xhafer: I.

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Laura: True story.

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Xhafer: for Caprica?

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We haven't talked about it yet.

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Laura: I was gonna suggest that.

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The Plan: Yeah.

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Laura: only one season though.

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Xhafer: I'll go now.

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The Plan: I'll be honest,

I'm excited to watch Caprica.

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I've never seen it before, and so

I've been like, all right, when

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you guys get to it, that is when

I'm going to finally watch Caprica.

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So

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Laura: Yeah.

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The Plan: excited.

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, Xhafer: We have uh,

season four episode one.

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He did believeth in me actually, I

don't know if you noticed, Laura.

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We got in, we got a letter in the mailbox.

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Laura: Oh, no, I didn't notice that.

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You want to talk about it?

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You wanna tell me what it says?

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The Plan: Was it a

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Xhafer: I,

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The Plan: and desist?

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Is it

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Xhafer: it was,

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The Plan: Is he back?

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Laura: Oh, no.

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Ronnie d has heard about us.

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Xhafer: no, no.

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This one's from Mr.

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Beast.

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I

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Laura: okay.

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Xhafer: um, I assume not the Mr.

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Beast, but Mr.

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Beast 6, 6, 7 who

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Laura: Hmm.

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Xhafer: If you are the Real Mr.

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Beast, let us know that we will

take million dollar sponsorships.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: just pass that along.

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Laura: I will shill whatever you need.

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The Plan: I will compete against

these guys to watch, see who

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can watch the most Battlestar

Galactica without falling asleep.

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Uh, You know, or whatever.

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Endurance challenge, we locked three

podcasters in an empty grocery store

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with only season five of Babylon.

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Five.

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Laura: I'm down.

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Xhafer: Yeah, for sure.

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It's just an excuse to hang out.

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Um, God.

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Can you imagine?

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It would just be bits,

it would be so many bits.

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We'd drive ourselves crazy, but I

think we could make it work as long

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as, and we just keep leaning in

and leaning in and leaning in after

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like day five or six of leaning in.

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Laura: Yeah,

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Xhafer: We've either gone completely

insane or there is no repercussion.

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no middle crowd.

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It's one of those

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Laura: I'm sure Mr.

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Beast's editing team can get at

least a few episodes out of that.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: Yeah, for sure.

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okay, so this is in response

to our season three finale

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Laura: Oh, no.

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Xhafer: specifically

the reveal of the final

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Okay.

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Xhafer: Okay.

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You guys did a great job

of recapping the episode.

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Thank you.

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have to ask what the

frack actually happened.

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These four people followed this song

into the bowels of the ship, when

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they meet and say they're cylons,

the heck were they following?

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What is the significance of the spot

on the galactica that they came to?

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How did this particular spot

come to have the significance?

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How does this thing

trigger their memories?

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of these obvious questions.

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And not only does the show not

address them, you guys also did

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not, I surely hope that you are not

going to say it's science fiction.

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It doesn't need an explanation that

would be such Felger carb, which is OG

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Battlestar Galactica curse word we found.

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Laura: Oh yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: not have known that.

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I did not know that when we

watched first got this email, but

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I do now because of living Lent.

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there's a little bit more, but

I wanna address the question.

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Um, one.

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I didn't bring up some of these things

because they could possibly be spoilery.

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And this is a first watch through,

so that's why I didn't bring it up.

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I would, if Laura wanted to bring it

up, she could have, and I would've

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just encouraged conversation.

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But why does this room

in particular matter?

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I actually have a very, I feel

like this is a very strong theory

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: on why they meet

in this room in particular.

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And that's because it's the only room

in Galactica with four doors where

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they could all enter dramatically

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Laura: about to say that as a joke.

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Xhafer: Uh, Is a hundred percent a joke.

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Yes.

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it's the only reason that it makes sense.

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It just, I think it's the only room

they had set up that had four doors and

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they, I think it's probably actually

two other rooms that they just did a

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quick redress on because there aren't

a lot of four door rooms on the ship.

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I, I can't think of any other ones.

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And you need them all to come from

different places so they can dramatically

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walk in without running into each

other in the hallway beforehand, which

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would ruin the drama of the moment.

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The Plan: Besides it being the only

room that all four people could

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enter dramatically, did, do you have

theories, any thoughts about why

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the song, why were they drawn here?

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Laura: the song seemed to be the

thing that was signaling them.

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And I don't know if I was just

like, I, mm, filling in gaps in my

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head, the, of things that weren't

actually like, you know, confabulating

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something, making something up.

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But I was like, thinking.

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That this was, this, the place that

the music was coming from, and they

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were all drawn to it by the music

they were hearing in their heads.

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But I don't know if that's

actually true or not.

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Now that Mr.

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Beast has brought it to the

forefront of my mind, I,

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The Plan: my theory is that Mr.

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Beast was a writer's assistant on

Battlestar Galactica and asked all

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these questions and was told Shut up.

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Um,

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Laura: I'm sorry about that.

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Mistreatment, Mr.

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Beast, that must have been hard for you.

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Xhafer: Oh, wait, wait,

wait, wait, wait, wait.

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I've noticed the signature on

this email is actually Father

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Beast, so maybe it's Mr.

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Beast's dad, which case, please

tell your son we're willing

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to do ridiculous things for a

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Laura: right.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Xhafer: Like everyone's got a

price minus a million dollars.

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Make it happen.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah,

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The Plan: yeah, everyone's got a price and

I'm worried how low mine would actually

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Laura: yeah.

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Right, right.

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Okay.

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Is that all of Mr.

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Beast's points?

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Have we addressed

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Xhafer: Um, I feel like there's a

scene in a drama where a man comes

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home, finds one of his kids, has

left him a treasure hunt in the form

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of yarn trailing around the house.

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He follows it around, winding the yarn

up as it twists around and things until

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he finds it tied to the leg of the

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Laura: uhhuh

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Xhafer: Upon seeing the yarn tied

to the table with no other clue,

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who he sudden realizes that his wife

has been sleeping with the guy next

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door, that is the end of the email.

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Laura: now?

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I kind of wish that the silent reveal

had been them following different colored

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strings of yarn all around the ship.

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The Plan: They could have like, even

talked about, like the, the myth

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of Ariadne or something, you know,

drop even some more Greek stuff

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Laura: Oh yeah.

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Love that Greek shit.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: shit.

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Laura: That good Greek shit.

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Xhafer: Good That good?

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Good.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I don't know.

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I kind of

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Xhafer: I.

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Laura: think this, maybe

we're not done with the song.

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I don't know.

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I would be interested.

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I Well,

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The Plan: The finale.

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Being a musical is really a, oh

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Laura: that's,

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The Plan: have

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Laura: that's the last

minute that everyone hates.

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Xhafer: minute that everyone,

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Laura: No, we aren't totally done with the

song though, because it shows up in this

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episode right at the beginning, right?

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Xhafer: right?

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Uh, Yeah.

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There's a little bit,

there's a little trail of it.

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We're not done with the song.

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I'll

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Spoilers or whatnot.

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I don't, that's, it's a minor

enough where I won't give the

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circumstances or anything.

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We're not what, we're

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah, because

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Xhafer: It will come back

in a way that you do not

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Laura: we're gonna have it very quickly

here, at least in this episode, and I

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think it's only in the beginning, but

we'll find out if there's more later.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Well, we can get into

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Laura: I

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Xhafer: so once again, Battlestar

Galactica, season four, episode one.

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He that boli in mo

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the intro change to finally admit

that they don't have a plan anymore.

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Good for

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Laura: I was like, new intro.

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Who this?

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The Plan: It's mostly just to

remind you that Simon exists.

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Laura: Right?

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Right.

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Xhafer: Yeah, it's true.

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Laura: Is it me?

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Okay.

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So.

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I did some traveling when I had to watch

this, and so I was watching on my iPad

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screen, but everything looked a lot

sharper, like in the effects and such.

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Is that just iPad screen effect or do

we think there was some extra CG budget?

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Xhafer: Um.

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The Plan: there was budget.

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Xhafer: I know that production for

this season was split in Twain.

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But I also know that was

because of the writer

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Laura: Right.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: So I don't know if they uh,

they wouldn't have been spending

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more money at this point to use

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Laura: Right, right.

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I don't know.

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I thought it looked really good.

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We'll see when I go back to tv,

watch for the next episode if I feel

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like everything is still very sharp.

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Xhafer: Yeah, you might need to

adjust the settings on your tv.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I don't

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The Plan: Hmm.

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Xhafer: I dunno, I don't know.

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yeah, we open on Lee and Starbuck talking.

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her signal is making it to CIC

and they're trying to figure

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out what the hell is going on.

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As 200 Raiders take off and a huge

space battle begins Kara immediately

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dives in and starts blowing

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: While Adama orders Saul to launch

more fighters, he has a daydream of

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killing Adama that plays for just long.

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Not in like a way that is like it's

too long because of the edit, but

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in a way where it holds on it too

long to make you uncomfortable on

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: And they do a

really good job of it.

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I'm not criticizing the length of the

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: noting that it's designed to

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Laura: But this is where the

music is definitely playing.

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That music is playing while he's

hallucinating shooting Adama.

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The Plan: And I mean, this is the most

relatable thing Saul has ever done.

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Like who hasn't been

yelled at by their boss.

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And J just had that seven second fantasy

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Laura: Mm

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The Plan: and then you snap

back to it and go do your job.

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Laura: mm-hmm.

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You just disassociate

for like 10, 15 seconds.

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It's not a big deal.

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The Plan: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Anyone who could fly is ordered

to reserve Raptors to help defend the

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fleet, meaning the nuggets, including

Anders are going up and he has similar

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concerns on betraying his friends.

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Athena, almost overhears,

Anders Anterial talking

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: A plus.

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Laura: but not quite.

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Uh, Who the hell else would you be?

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Like, get your butt in the air.

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You dumb dumb.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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I haven't seen you at the s meetings.

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The Plan: important to note.

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She doesn't notice anything

weird about Anders or Tyrell.

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Xhafer: Well, Caprica six tells us in

this episode, I don't think she can notice

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anything weird about the two of them.

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Laura: Yeah.

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She can't think about it.

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Xhafer: that if, this was a

human character, they might think

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something is up, but because

it's Athena, it flies under the

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Laura: She can't think something is up.

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Yeah.

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That's interesting.

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Especially interesting since one of

my things was like, Tyrell should

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go talk to Athena about this.

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I mean, maybe he still should, like, maybe

she just won't remember anything about it.

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Of course, he might also

accidentally murder her, but

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we don't know that for sure.

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Xhafer: I, I mean, not being

able to think about it and being

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confronted with it are different

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Laura: Hmm.

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Xhafer: so we'll see how that goes

when it surely happens at some point

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: that's too ripe

a fruit to not pick.

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The Plan: point out one of

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happens in this space battle.

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I love it when the Raptors launch

missiles like that just is so cool

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when you're just like, oh, right.

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It's not just, Hey, they

sit back and scan stuff.

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Laura: Yeah.

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The Plan: can do stuff.

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Laura: Yeah.

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The, the space battle looked really good.

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I liked it way to open a season, but you

know what sucks to open a season with

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Xhafer: what,

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Laura: fucking ball tar going

away with a bunch of women, gross.

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Ugh.

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Xhafer: But yeah, the ladies take

ballar to an unused compartment.

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The Plan: Why does that

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Laura: Why does that exist?

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Thank you.

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The Plan: is there an unused compartment

on like important secure place in the

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Laura: Uh Huh The most military of

ships, like, like, you know, down

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below in Babylon five, you can kind

of like head canon that a lot because

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it's like, well, it's a, it's actually

like an outpost and it's not, it

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doesn't belong to the military.

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It's more like a little

city and blah, blah, blah.

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This is a military ship.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Like

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The Plan: out?

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There was a bunch of people

living on the enterprise,

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Laura: Yeah.

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The Plan: like, oh, we found a room nobody

was using and just have been living here.

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Xhafer: honestly, it's more

like finding a bunch of people.

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We were living on the defiant,

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: like the enterprise at

least has families and people and

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: like this is, this is a warship.

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Laura: Uh.

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Xhafer: uh,

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We get the space battle.

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The PXI blows up with its crew of 600

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Laura: Yep.

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Xhafer: big

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Rosalyn's also asking how they found them.

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And I would also like to know this,

but we don't really get an answer.

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But we've got 50 plus missiles inbound.

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Just an unbelievable amount of missiles.

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Xhafer: Anders is talking to himself.

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His call sign is long shot.

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If he

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Laura: Oh, I did miss that.

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Thank you.

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Xhafer: CIX is using hardball.

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Laura: Mm.

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Yeah, I like it.

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Xhafer: He tries to do the

Viper thing but has a rough go.

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He is unable to fire his guns.

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A Raider gets him dead to rights, but

they make eye contact and they both

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do red eyes at each other, and then

it just leaves him the fuck alone.

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Laura: seems like Anders does

not know he is doing red eyes.

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Right.

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Xhafer: Yeah, I I imagine it's

much like orgasm spine, like

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you're probably not aware of that.

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Laura: Do we think that six

is not aware of orgasm spine?

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Xhafer: I, I, I think you'd make

an active effort to cover it up if

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Laura: Mm, that's true.

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Xhafer: also, man, what a plot point

to just leave and never touch again.

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Here, here it is, sci-fi pilots

being just that little bit of

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extra horny looking at you.

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Babble on five in the list

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in frictionless sheets

while we're at it anyways,

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The Plan: I want to ask, do

we think there are any of our

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human silos running this attack?

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Laura: Oh,

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The Plan: they know

why they're breaking it

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Laura: like the other seven.

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The Plan: Like is Cavel there

being like, we gotta go.

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Or is he there while all the

centurions and everything automatically

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jumps him away and he's just

like, what the, what is going

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Xhafer: on Ben.

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The Plan: think, Laura?

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What do you think's going on?

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Laura: Am I, am I allowed to?

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Xhafer: Of course you're

allowed to throw conjecture.

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Uh, You have, you, you haven't

watched the next one yet,

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Laura: Nope.

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Hmm.

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Xhafer: Because I believe this

question is answered within the

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first 10 minutes of the next episode.

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I haven't watched it

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: but I believe it's

very, I believe this is answered

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very quickly into the next

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Laura: I,

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The Plan: Which is why this is

the only time we can talk about

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Laura: I really hope that it's just

like, yes, there have got to be other

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human silences on these ships, right?

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Because I think they said there's

three base ships or something.

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There's a, a multiple number of

base ships, and those have got to be

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just crawling with the other seven.

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And I hope it's just that

they're all really confused.

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And they're all just like, the fuck,

all of our equipment just turned on us.

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How can this happen?

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Oh my God, we don't know

what's, what's going on?

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And then, then probably some, some

motherfucker, it's probably a cavel

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now that you say it is like, Hmm,

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Xhafer: a

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Laura: hmm, you know, this is, this might

have something to do with that thing.

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We boxed all the threes over, you know?

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Xhafer: five plot.

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Armor confirmed the Raiders

retreat and jump out immediately.

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And then we go to theme.

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We've got our survivor count 39,698.

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Our last count was in the sun, also

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: 41,399, making for a loss 1 7 0

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Laura: Oh, wow.

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Xhafer: So we had 600 on the Pyxis.

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1100 some on other ships.

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The Plan: a big chunk of the hoop ship.

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Laura: Oh yeah, that was

one of those cool scenes.

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Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: we are also plus one for Cara and

minus four for Thai tier, Anders and Tory.

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Laura: Yeah.

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So

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The Plan: Hmm.

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Laura: that gives me a point towards,

Starbuck is not a salon if she is

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included in this number, if the

count still thinks she's human.

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Xhafer: they included.

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The Plan: included Saul, Tyrell, Anders,

and Tory when we thought they were humans.

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Xhafer: Yes.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: They, they counted

up until this point.

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Laura: I don't know.

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I am still on Team Starbuck is human.

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We can

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Xhafer: I

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Laura: put a Faren Hume

on there if you want.

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The Plan: Oh my.

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Xhafer: Hooman.

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Laura: I'm, I'm still there.

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I'm not convinced of anything else yet.

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I think this show's gonna try really

hard to convince me of something else.

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The Plan: You mean like by having

her point a gun at the president?

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Maybe more even.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: we'll see guys has taken

down below and fucking a, it even

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looks like Byron's pad down here.

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It's the same like red

and oranges and golds and

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Laura: There's Twinkle Lights everywhere.

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Xhafer: right?

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The Plan: Aaron, I need you to drop

in the entirety of the Byron Song.

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Laura: No, you could play it in

the background when we describe it.

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Ah, yeah, there's a little Gaia

shrine like in the middle of the room.

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Xhafer: sure

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Laura: It's gross.

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The Plan: And it's like 93% women

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: Yeah, there's, there's like four

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Laura: Yeah, there's some dudes.

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The Plan: universally, no egos, you

know, it's, it's all, it's all pretty

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Laura: That's true.

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That's true.

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Xhafer: I mean, that's pretty

true of most of the survivors

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of humanity at this point.

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It's almost like everyone who survives

the genocide is a actor in Vancouver.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah, that's true.

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That's true.

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you know, I wondered if the

Twink, the twinkle lights are

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probably just Twinkle lights.

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But after watching that episode of OG

Battlestar, where one of baltar's robots,

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I do believe it was Lucifer, had the,

like helmet that was clearly just stuffed

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with twinkle lights to convince us

that that's, you know a thinking brain.

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Xhafer: a.

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Laura: I was like, man,

I really want that.

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The Twinkle lights here to be a reference

to the Twinkle lights in Baltar's robots.

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But that's probably a stretch, but

it's fun for me to think about.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Lands on the deck and everyone

is all, what the fuck?

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And rightfully so, Ty asked

Thea and he, if he believes in

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miracles, and he's just like,

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The Plan: Where are you from?

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Your sexy thing?

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Laura: I don't believe

that he said that to salt.

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Xhafer: Oh, okay.

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Laura: Their relationship

is not that kind.

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But there's a lot of things

between miracle and silent.

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I think.

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I,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: uh, But we, we go and we

check her out with guns though.

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Xhafer: Yeah, for

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Laura: with guns,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Star BES learns.

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It's been two months here.

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when the Admiral isn't happy to

see her GAAS gets told that his

513

only option is to hang out with

these people and he is not pleased.

514

And this is when,

515

The Plan: hates me.

516

It's like, yeah,

517

Xhafer: yeah.

518

Laura: yeah.

519

Because he's all like, okay,

when are we leaving the ship?

520

When are we going to do the ship?

521

And they're like.

522

There's no other ships, man.

523

It's just us.

524

Xhafer: Yeah.

525

Six PT shows up and we learn.

526

He hates this.

527

He thinks they're all crazy.

528

He has no interest in being a cult leader.

529

And six PT kind of like lures him into

a prayer prose as somewhat observes.

530

and when she says her prayers

feel empty, he tells her to stop

531

praying to the gods and start

Praying to the one true capital G.

532

Laura: Mm-hmm.

533

Xhafer: And she starts

undressing them both.

534

But I was too busy looking up promulgate

because that was such a clutch word choice

535

and I was not familiar when Gaia said it.

536

So I ended up missing like a third of

this scene and I just looked up and

537

I'm just all like, oh, this is bad.

538

Laura: Yeah.

539

I just wanna say that six PTs, new

suit that she's wearing for this, I

540

don't know why we're going with suit

now, but it is absolutely smashing.

541

I hope it comes back.

542

maybe because we're getting religious

now, so we've gotta cover up a little bit.

543

So we're gonna wear a little suit.

544

Xhafer: Wear a little suit.

545

It's like a little missionary

suit thing, you know?

546

It's

547

Laura: No, she needs like a little

matching red hat and then she's

548

a real church lady, like bam.

549

But

550

Xhafer: for

551

Laura: yeah, no, we're

gonna do this thing.

552

I guess the one true God is guy's penis.

553

Xhafer: Ding.

554

The Plan: j fair, you, you seemed

weirded out by this, like you've

555

never gotten down in the middle

of a room full of other people in

556

front of a tri a shrine to yourself.

557

Xhafer: I'm not gonna

answer that question.

558

Laura: Hmm Hmm.

559

The Plan: because you don't want to admit

to having a shrine of yourself and not

560

because of the gr the, the public sex

561

Xhafer: I'm not gonna answer that

question find Like I have a painting

562

of me that a friend, a friend made it.

563

I have a painting of me.

564

The Plan: them?

565

Xhafer: I didn't pay them.

566

That was a gift.

567

The Plan: I know.

568

Laura: Is that, is this a

podcaster thing that we have

569

artworks of ourself in our house?

570

Xhafer: I mean, I don't know.

571

I, I don't think it's that weird.

572

It's, I it's not like it's, I mean,

okay, so I've got a painting of

573

me and I've got it in my basement

next to my suit of armor that I

574

Laura: Mm-hmm.

575

Xhafer: from my LARP days.

576

Is the, that a shrine to me?

577

I don't consider it a shrine.

578

To

579

Laura: Is

580

Xhafer: my

581

Laura: well follow up question.

582

Is that where you have the public sex?

583

The Plan: And how many

twinkle lights are around it?

584

Xhafer: So, fun fact, there actually

is a mattress on the floor in front of

585

it right now, but that's just because

I need to get it thrown out and I

586

Laura: No.

587

Xhafer: it up the stairs.

588

And that's just where it

589

Laura: Uh Mm-hmm.

590

The Plan: Why does it

need to be thrown out?

591

Because of what it's seen?

592

Xhafer: It's, it's true.

593

Anyways Kara is confirmed to be not

asylum but they do this, but they're

594

just like, they're not sure still, but

they're like, she's definitely a human.

595

But also, is she a human still?

596

They, they're very like back

and forth because they're

597

like, Baltar s detector sucked.

598

Maybe she's not a hu we don't know, but

also we definitively know she is, but

599

also like fuck, it's like it's enough.

600

They, they know enough that she's

human enough to be all like,

601

okay, well she's human, but not

enough to actually trust it.

602

Laura: Yeah.

603

Xhafer: it.

604

It's like, I don't know, do

you take her blood and throw

605

it at like a cancer sample?

606

Like what is the test

607

Laura: Right.

608

Xhafer: and.

609

The Plan: they're also

like, she could be a clone.

610

Fuck.

611

I dunno.

612

Laura: Yeah.

613

Xhafer: she says that at one point, this

614

Laura: Right, right.

615

But everybody's missing the like.

616

Middle ground in this is that she

was just kidnapped by the CYS and

617

had some shit implanted in her

brain and or they took her to Earth.

618

I don't know, like stuff

619

The Plan: her blow up?

620

Laura: I, I just

621

Xhafer: why is her ship brand

622

Laura: mm-hmm.

623

Well, silence could

give her brand new ship.

624

I, yeah.

625

I'm, they keep not mentioning

something that seems like

626

somebody should mention it.

627

Xhafer: speaking of which, they

discuss the shit being brand new.

628

Rosalyn suggests that they throw Kara

in the bri, she can't be trusted.

629

Full stop.

630

Laura: Mm.

631

Yeah.

632

Xhafer: Yep.

633

The Plan: The, the thing that bugs me

right here is Rosalyn is very much like

634

okay, we were supposed to come to this

Nebula, and then we would find the path.

635

Starbucks shows up and like, I know

the way to earth, and she's like, no.

636

Just gonna keep wandering this way.

637

I'm not going to leave the path.

638

And it's like, but this

is the end of the path.

639

This is the end of where

you were supposed to

640

Laura: Uhhuh.

641

The Plan: Um, like she has no idea.

642

She is just mad that somebody

else might have the idea.

643

Laura: Is she,

644

Xhafer: Yeah,

645

The Plan: this is the dark side

of Rosalyn where it's just like,

646

Hey, once she became president, it

was anybody else's Ideas are bad.

647

Laura: yeah.

648

I wonder about if she hasn't

consumed enough scripture or

649

whatever to digest that possibly.

650

There's, there's someone supposed

to lead us now and that is

651

Starbuck, or she hasn't done enough.

652

Kamala, I guess.

653

Xhafer: Could use some more Kamala

654

Laura: Yeah, me too.

655

The Plan: She, she has very much,

I'm not high enough for this shit

656

Laura: Mm-hmm.

657

The Plan: Uh.

658

Laura: Yeah.

659

Yeah.

660

Or, or you know, it could be, as

Ben is suggesting that her sense of

661

power is threatened by that and she's

ignoring something in scripture.

662

She's gonna totally miss

it because of pride.

663

I guess that seems like

a thing that happens.

664

Xhafer: Back in guy's cult one of the

moms here has a kid in metal lab who

665

is doing so poorly, so she brings him

to the cult site 'cause he's gonna die.

666

She's looking for answers in her faith

for the uh, looming death of her child.

667

Laura: Mm-hmm.

668

Xhafer: Yep.

669

The Plan: sucks.

670

Xhafer: Yeah,

671

Laura: yeah, I think at, at this point

they're talking about it being like viral

672

encephalitis and I wish I knew anything

about that to know like how this, like is

673

there a chance of getting better without

674

Xhafer: better.

675

Laura: being in a hospital?

676

I don't know.

677

The Plan: With their medicine, who knows?

678

Xhafer: Yeah.

679

It seems like they've, like, I don't know.

680

They're medicines all over the place.

681

It is.

682

It is different than ours in notable

683

Laura: Yeah.

684

The Plan: But it also does

685

Laura: I.

686

The Plan: anywhere near advanced enough

687

for how far in the future,

like technology they are.

688

Xhafer: Yeah.

689

The Plan: for s like multiple

planet colonizing super society,

690

Laura: Mm-hmm.

691

The Plan: I would expect there to be

more like, Hey, we've cured cancer stuff

692

Laura: Right.

693

Like it's, it's breast cancer that Rosalyn

has that in the, in the beginning and

694

then it's come back and it's like, wow.

695

I was hoping we could

have like conquered that.

696

Xhafer: Well, Laura, as you know, it's

not really as much of a concern for men.

697

It, I it is, but sometimes to

698

Laura: Mm-hmm.

699

Xhafer: know that men can have

breast cancer, but I'm, I'm more

700

referencing the fact that we just

don't take women's health seriously,

701

Laura: For real.

702

Xhafer: I was about to go for a joke,

and that I just got sad midway through

703

and couldn't commit to the bit.

704

So I.

705

The Plan: Coward.

706

Laura: Too real.

707

Too real?

708

Xhafer: I don't really

feel that bad about it.

709

It's just sad.

710

The Plan: it slide this time.

711

Laura: Yeah.

712

Xhafer: The, the final four are talking,

the song is stopped for all of them, but

713

Laura: For now,

714

Xhafer: is still high.

715

They reaffirmed that they are

not going to portray humanity.

716

The Plan: Saul has a

literal I'm built different

717

Laura: Uhhuh, he says, he says that he

couldn't be programmed to help Cylons.

718

And I'm like, oh, Booy, that

feels a little like chek

719

off's overconfident statement.

720

Uh Oh.

721

The Plan: He also pulls out his gun, um.

722

Xhafer: yeah, and I pulled out my gun.

723

Yeah.

724

Rosalyn visits Caprica six

to ask about the final five.

725

says she can feel them.

726

They are close.

727

Laura: Rosalyn thought that, that Caprica

six saw them in the opera house, but she

728

says that she can't, that she's, she's

programmed not to think about them.

729

And then Rosalyn does

that whole, like, well,

730

Xhafer: Just to compare to now

731

Laura: yeah.

732

Xhafer: why you hit yourself,

733

Laura: Well, how do you rationalize that?

734

You're, you're thinking

about them right now?

735

Like, how do and uh, yeah,

that's when we get, I,

736

Xhafer: doesn't work like that, obviously.

737

Laura: Yeah.

738

She can feel them, all of them.

739

Xhafer: Gator here does not trust Uck.

740

All

741

Laura: Huh.

742

This is kind of an

interesting reaction for me.

743

It feels a little out

of character for Gata.

744

Xhafer: Why would it be?

745

The Plan: GATA just got put

through the ringer by the

746

Laura: Uhhuh.

747

The Plan: and then put through

the ringer by the resistance.

748

Laura: Uhhuh.

749

The Plan: him being just like,

and now I've gotta deal with

750

this third branch of bullshit.

751

Like now I've gotta deal with the woman

who came back from the dead, who's

752

pissed that we all think it's weird.

753

come on.

754

Laura: Yeah.

755

It,

756

Xhafer: And I mean, gada

is chronically ignored,

757

Laura: mm-hmm.

758

Mm-hmm.

759

Xhafer: Like Gita's not in the

room where they're all like, oh,

760

well she's probably a human, but

we still don't trust her, really.

761

he's just like, help her figure

out her shit is his orders.

762

And it's all like, I don't

wanna spend time with

763

Laura: Yeah.

764

Yeah, I guess I could see that.

765

I was just thinking, you know, 'cause he

was like shadow all over by having been

766

the re resist, you know, the resistance

is inside man, and I just thought maybe

767

he could have a little empathy for

like weird shit happens and especially

768

Xhafer: shit doesn't happen.

769

That's, that's his whole thing

is it was obvious all along.

770

was, you know, it's, everything

is very black and white for him, I

771

Laura: Mm.

772

Okay.

773

Xhafer: And it's people treating

things gray that upsets him.

774

Laura: Mm.

775

The Plan: it doesn't help that

Starbuck has no actual answers to

776

Laura: Yeah.

777

Xhafer: Yes.

778

Laura: is actually normal

for Starbucks though, like

779

The Plan: yeah, no, it is on brand

for her, it's like, who is the worst

780

person we could have like actually

know the directions to Earth Starbuck.

781

it's like had Helo disappeared and come

back, he would've been like, pointer dog.

782

Like I, you just follow him a

puppy nose and we go to Earth.

783

Um,

784

Laura: I,

785

I wonder how much Gada knew on New

Caprica about Leo Obin fucking with Uck.

786

Did he know anything about it?

787

Yeah, I think you're probably right.

788

I bet Leo Obin was keeping that

one really close to the chest.

789

'cause I feel like if he

knew something about it.

790

The Plan: everybody's asking Starbucks

questions and she's like, dude, dude,

791

I can't explain, but I got a new Viper.

792

Laura: Yep.

793

Xhafer: Yeah.

794

The Plan: That is for anybody

795

Laura: Mm-hmm.

796

The Plan: to LTO and, and

knows, knows our drops.

797

Laura: Yeah,

798

The Plan: We also get my favorite moment

from this whole episode where she's going

799

to Adama like, why don't you trust me?

800

Why won't you listen to me?

801

You said you loved me like a

daughter, and he is like, yeah.

802

So I'm completely

ignoring your thoughts and

803

Laura: Mm-hmm.

804

The Plan: and doing

whatever I wanted to do.

805

Laura: Yeah.

806

Haven't used,

807

The Plan: to the

808

Laura: haven't you seen

how I treat my son?

809

The Plan: Lee now.

810

Laura: Yep.

811

Hilo does try to be

812

Xhafer: Does

813

Laura: kind of nice and understanding

to Starbucks, so that's good.

814

He's still Himba.

815

But yeah, Adama does tell Starbuck like,

I'm sorry you are giving me nothing here.

816

And until you can gimme something, we

have to keep doing what the president

817

wants to do, which is like run away.

818

Xhafer: Yeah.

819

She's like, the farther we

get from the eye of Jupiter,

820

the more I lose this feeling.

821

We're going the wrong direction.

822

Adama questions her brand new ship.

823

It doesn't matter how much he

wants to trust her, he can't

824

bring himself to do it though.

825

Lee and Papa Dama watched the

footage of Starbucks ship blowing up.

826

Laura: Mm-hmm.

827

Xhafer: Bill, thanks Lee

for joining the fight.

828

He's offered his commission back, but

he's gonna transition to politics.

829

It sounds like

830

Laura: Uh, Ugh.

831

Xhafer: the government

has reached out to him.

832

Laura: Yeah.

833

The government, do you mean Rosalyn?

834

The Plan: Yeah.

835

They put feelers out and it's like

there are like six jobs and none

836

of them are more important than c.

837

Laura: Yeah.

838

Yeah.

839

Xhafer: Yeah.

840

Laura: I am just like, okay, all right.

841

This is a weird choice,

842

Xhafer: Yeah,

843

Laura: but I guess the, the Warriors

are all very well rounded and

844

just good for everything, right?

845

So,

846

Xhafer: I mean, Lee's first law will

be making it illegal for a, a child to

847

serve on their parents' Battlestar, so,

848

Laura: I mean,

849

The Plan: But by making it

so that your dad has to quit,

850

Xhafer: oh, yeah.

851

The Plan: I.

852

Xhafer: Gais in the cult room

prays for the boy offering himself.

853

He says he's done too much shit.

854

He is beyond redemption, but

this kid is like in innocent.

855

He's done nothing.

856

Gaas rebukes one of the cult

ladies as he shaves no more Mr.

857

Bearded Gaas.

858

When another refugee comes in to talk

about his son who died on new Caprica,

859

when he refuses to beg for his life, when

this guy grabs him and asks for death,

860

this surprises the guy giving the cult

lady enough time to escape by beating

861

the shit outta these guys with a pipe.

862

The Plan: Yeah, it gets rugged.

863

Laura: I feel like I've heard of

this guy mentioned Kevin before.

864

Am I crazy?

865

I thought in a previous episode we heard

about some refugee talk about Kevin.

866

Maybe I just have deja vu.

867

But we did see him stalking

Gaius throughout the episode.

868

Xhafer: Yeah.

869

Laura: How did she get this pipe?

870

Xhafer: she She like grabbed

it from, it's like a plunger

871

or something, A space plunger.

872

It seemed

873

Laura: Space plunger is built different.

874

Yeah.

875

Xhafer: Yeah.

876

The Plan: so Kevin was killed the start

of season three, and it, I guess, came

877

up into the episode collaborators,

878

Or season three, episode

five is when it came up that

879

Laura: Somebody talking

about their son, Kevin.

880

The Plan: did it.

881

Laura: Yeah.

882

The Plan: like he was in on the

list of people killed or something.

883

Laura: Yeah.

884

Okay.

885

Thank you for telling

me I'm not crazy, Ben.

886

The Plan: Nope.

887

You're not crazy.

888

Laura: she also tells Gais that she was

able to beat these guys up because she

889

felt God's love flowing through her.

890

Xhafer: Yeah,

891

Laura: Yeah.

892

Okay.

893

Xhafer: If you insist.

894

Laura: right.

895

You're the one with the pipe like.

896

The Plan: Yeah.

897

I'm not gonna argue with you.

898

Now.

899

Also, I do like that throat Slit Baltar

has the same voice as James Callis when

900

he's in through the Three Musketeers.

901

Uh, I.

902

Laura: You know, I didn't think about

it in the moment when I was watching

903

it, but now that, because throat sl

Gaas has like lower huskier voice,

904

The Plan: he

905

Laura: That's the same kind of

voice he put on for his act for

906

Tyrell of being from ERO on.

907

Xhafer: Yes

908

Laura: So

909

Xhafer: it

910

Laura: I don't know if that

means anything, but it's fun.

911

It's fun to know.

912

But miracles in down below

Derrick is all better now.

913

Xhafer: Yeah.

914

Magic fucking healed.

915

He is a, fine, like very, very, very

916

Laura: Mm-hmm.

917

Xhafer: Anders and Starbuck

talk at the memorial

918

Laura: Oh yeah.

919

Xhafer: She tries to reconcile of

her apparent view of things, her

920

apparent death and resurrection, her

six hours versus their two months.

921

There's lots of contradictions here,

and he's like, if you're a cylon,

922

you've like always been one, right?

923

So like, all that good stuff you did

means that you're still a good person.

924

Even if you end up being a

cylon, that's it's gonna be okay.

925

And she's all like, if I found

out you were salon, I would

926

fucking kill you right now.

927

And he's all like, oh well it's

a good thing that I'm not then.

928

Laura: Oh,

929

Xhafer: right.

930

Laura: this is, this is so awkward.

931

So awkward.

932

I thought Callie was gonna be a problem.

933

Oh, man.

934

It looks like Starbucks is a problem too.

935

The Plan: Now, Laura, does it play

into your, Starbuck isn't a s that

936

she's not getting anything from Anders?

937

Like he's not hearing the music when he's

938

Laura: Mm-hmm.

939

The Plan: because like you, you could

be believing that the reason she didn't

940

show up as the the fifth of the final

five is because she wasn't there.

941

She was

942

Laura: Sure, sure.

943

The Plan: And now, oh, we hear

the music again and now Starbucks

944

shows up, but she's there with

Anders not hearing anything, not

945

Laura: Nobody's hearing any music.

946

I don't know.

947

I just, I just don't think she's a asylum.

948

I just don't, I'm gonna

stick to my guns on this one.

949

Especially,

950

Xhafer: mean like

951

Laura: especially if, if

super secret six silo.

952

Is still on the board.

953

You've said it's that.

954

I'm

955

The Plan: Rosalyn was on BA on Galactica

956

Laura: sure

957

The Plan: come down to

the secret meeting room.

958

Laura: she didn't, but she had shit to do.

959

The Plan: So did Ty.

960

Laura: I know, I know.

961

The Plan: shit.

962

Laura: Yeah.

963

But she had a, she had a

reaction when they jumped in.

964

She was physically unwell,

which could be the cancer.

965

That's what they want me to think.

966

but the, the fun stuff of like

Starbuck being a human, pulling a

967

gun on Rosalyn being super secret,

six island, kind of reversing it

968

with the Boomer Adama situation.

969

I don't know.

970

I just, I want that to be true.

971

Xhafer: I also, just to throw it out

there, Laura, a a point of evidence in

972

your favor, if she was a silent and she

was a silent the whole time, then what's

973

up with all the medical experiment stuff

974

Laura: Yeah.

975

Why do we need her ovaries?

976

Like

977

Xhafer: Yeah.

978

Uh, Like all of that entire thread

suddenly loses any semblance of making

979

Laura: mm-hmm.

980

Xhafer: because even if they

didn't know when they grabbed her,

981

they probably would've found out

982

Laura: Figured out like, oh, this

part of the, the robot isn't right,

983

or This part of the hum isn't right.

984

It looks more robot, but,

985

Xhafer: She doesn't have the

thing that you can plug those

986

fiber optics into in her wrist.

987

The Plan: Now, on the other hand,

we do see Starbuck immediately then

988

go to do something a human can't do.

989

Pull a pin from a grenade with your

990

Laura: oh, yes, but.

991

The Plan: She,

992

Laura: thinks that we can, though.

993

The Plan: her teeth out across the hall.

994

So Slon teeth.

995

Laura: Media thinks we can though,

so I don't think that counts.

996

I'm not worried about that at all.

997

The Plan: So I'm just, she's not a slon.

998

While she was gone for two

999

Laura: I

00:43:10,095 --> 00:43:12,135

The Plan: visited a Slon dentist.

00:43:12,940 --> 00:43:13,150

Laura: Mm.

00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:14,290

Yeah.

00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:15,100

Yeah.

00:43:15,220 --> 00:43:18,819

If they can put some really good

ones in here, get 'em a little wider.

00:43:19,059 --> 00:43:19,539

I'll go.

00:43:21,223 --> 00:43:21,673

The Plan: Oh yeah.

00:43:23,739 --> 00:43:25,209

Laura: I love good Teethies

00:43:25,938 --> 00:43:30,138

The Plan: Starbuck now beats

up all of Rosalyn's guards.

00:43:30,528 --> 00:43:32,088

Is that Robit strength

00:43:33,758 --> 00:43:33,978

Xhafer: It

00:43:34,109 --> 00:43:36,059

Laura: yeah, I think they

want me to think that I,

00:43:36,348 --> 00:43:39,828

The Plan: Starbuck always being

better at everything than everybody.

00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:42,839

Laura: I mean, canonical

part of the s but character

00:43:43,278 --> 00:43:44,808

The Plan: We need a sniper Starbuck.

00:43:44,808 --> 00:43:47,418

We need somebody to beat up everyone in a

00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:47,909

Laura: uhhuh.

00:43:47,928 --> 00:43:48,768

The Plan: Starbuck.

00:43:48,978 --> 00:43:50,718

We need somebody to make a latte.

00:43:51,108 --> 00:43:52,398

Also Starbuck.

00:43:56,279 --> 00:43:56,969

Laura: Yeah.

00:43:57,359 --> 00:44:01,829

No, she has like a little migraine when

we do another jump and that's when she

00:44:01,829 --> 00:44:04,979

loses it and starts beating everybody up.

00:44:05,529 --> 00:44:09,099

Some of those were her guards,

not just like Roslyn guards.

00:44:09,462 --> 00:44:15,009

So when she throws the grenade, is that

a distraction grenade or is that an open.

00:44:15,024 --> 00:44:15,344

Xhafer: that an

00:44:15,504 --> 00:44:18,684

Laura: Adama's Quarters, door grenade,

00:44:20,074 --> 00:44:22,894

The Plan: It looked like

a smoke grenade for aura

00:44:23,069 --> 00:44:23,519

Xhafer: Yeah,

00:44:23,949 --> 00:44:24,299

Laura: Uhhuh.

00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:25,409

Xhafer: for

00:44:25,794 --> 00:44:26,304

Laura: Okay.

00:44:27,174 --> 00:44:27,684

Yeah,

00:44:27,749 --> 00:44:28,199

Xhafer: Agreed.

00:44:28,584 --> 00:44:30,174

Laura: easy to get in Adama's quarters.

00:44:34,464 --> 00:44:37,254

I feel like this is not the

first time it's, someone's

00:44:37,254 --> 00:44:39,894

gotten in there pretty easily.

00:44:40,647 --> 00:44:41,817

But Rosalyn's in there.

00:44:41,907 --> 00:44:43,437

She's, she's laying down

00:44:44,307 --> 00:44:44,727

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:44:44,997 --> 00:44:46,167

Laura: she need a little nappy nap.

00:44:47,206 --> 00:44:49,096

Xhafer: Yeah, a little nap.

00:44:49,381 --> 00:44:50,221

The Plan: Which was alluded to

00:44:50,417 --> 00:44:50,837

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:44:51,271 --> 00:44:55,226

The Plan: when Lee was just like, so

is the president still in your room?

00:44:55,337 --> 00:44:55,757

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:44:56,296 --> 00:44:57,146

The Plan: He's like, yeah,

00:44:59,862 --> 00:45:00,402

Laura: Yep.

00:45:00,912 --> 00:45:03,372

Mom and dad still together?

00:45:05,121 --> 00:45:05,341

Xhafer: Yep.

00:45:07,019 --> 00:45:08,999

Laura: and she goes to.

00:45:09,524 --> 00:45:12,674

Thomas quarters and just pulls

again on Roslyn, and that's it.

00:45:13,094 --> 00:45:15,369

Episode, scene,

00:45:15,508 --> 00:45:15,728

Xhafer: Yep.

00:45:17,179 --> 00:45:17,529

Laura: scene.

00:45:17,807 --> 00:45:18,617

Xhafer: Scene.

00:45:20,297 --> 00:45:21,017

All right.

00:45:22,097 --> 00:45:23,687

Well, that's that.

00:45:24,377 --> 00:45:29,357

We should probably rate this one

on a scale of one to 12 colonies.

00:45:29,357 --> 00:45:31,877

How we feel about it, Ben, as our guest.

00:45:32,357 --> 00:45:32,897

Of course.

00:45:32,897 --> 00:45:33,692

You're going first.

00:45:34,867 --> 00:45:34,987

The Plan: I.

00:45:37,085 --> 00:45:42,515

I have a lot of the problems 'cause

this, this one on a two be continued.

00:45:43,205 --> 00:45:43,425

Xhafer: Yes.

00:45:43,685 --> 00:45:47,732

The Plan: it, it's not a numbered

episode, but it is clearly a, we

00:45:47,732 --> 00:45:49,442

have not finished the thought.

00:45:50,432 --> 00:45:55,562

And is, that is one of those things

where it's like, it's usually not

00:45:55,562 --> 00:45:58,382

satisfying until you resolve that chord.

00:45:58,832 --> 00:45:59,462

Um,

00:45:59,643 --> 00:45:59,933

Laura: Yeah.

00:46:00,482 --> 00:46:04,112

The Plan: we have a lot of

questions that our characters are

00:46:04,397 --> 00:46:04,892

Xhafer: Are not

00:46:05,012 --> 00:46:05,192

The Plan: with

00:46:05,597 --> 00:46:05,947

Xhafer: great.

00:46:06,332 --> 00:46:06,842

The Plan: to

00:46:06,903 --> 00:46:07,323

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:46:08,102 --> 00:46:09,332

The Plan: so far.

00:46:10,412 --> 00:46:14,312

And so it'll be one of those things

where it's like, Hey, maybe the next

00:46:14,312 --> 00:46:16,682

episode resolves these chords nicely.

00:46:17,642 --> 00:46:23,042

But where it is, ah, this is like, hey,

we get a really great space battle.

00:46:23,582 --> 00:46:25,982

We get some fun character stuff.

00:46:26,972 --> 00:46:32,312

But points for not answering any of

our questions and negative points

00:46:32,312 --> 00:46:34,142

for going like, Hey, you know what?

00:46:34,142 --> 00:46:37,952

Everybody's favorite part of

Babylon five was, let's do

00:46:37,952 --> 00:46:39,842

that again in our last season.

00:46:40,022 --> 00:46:40,412

It's like,

00:46:40,883 --> 00:46:40,963

Laura: Hmm.

00:46:41,132 --> 00:46:42,152

The Plan: come on guys.

00:46:42,482 --> 00:46:44,162

You all are sci-fi writers.

00:46:44,252 --> 00:46:45,242

You know this shit.

00:46:45,542 --> 00:46:48,032

Like no one wants this.

00:46:50,762 --> 00:46:52,382

and so I'm gonna give this a seven.

00:46:53,518 --> 00:46:54,358

Laura: Wow.

00:46:55,563 --> 00:46:55,683

I.

00:46:55,907 --> 00:46:56,477

Xhafer: that's fair.

00:46:56,477 --> 00:46:58,157

It's a pretty middling episode.

00:46:58,817 --> 00:47:00,767

Think I would also give it a seven.

00:47:01,543 --> 00:47:02,143

Laura: Okay.

00:47:02,143 --> 00:47:03,913

I guess I'm just more generous.

00:47:04,037 --> 00:47:05,267

Xhafer: with it, but I don't

00:47:05,418 --> 00:47:08,173

Laura: I, I don't mind not

answering any of our questions yet.

00:47:08,203 --> 00:47:12,403

'cause literally like we did

a big space battle and then

00:47:12,692 --> 00:47:13,082

The Plan: Yeah.

00:47:13,393 --> 00:47:15,103

Laura: that took up a lot of time.

00:47:15,182 --> 00:47:15,792

Xhafer: literally,

00:47:15,793 --> 00:47:21,013

Laura: then we've got Starbuck

Mystery that's not easily handled.

00:47:21,313 --> 00:47:23,563

Um, I don't know.

00:47:23,653 --> 00:47:26,653

I'm, I'm feeling interested.

00:47:26,873 --> 00:47:32,303

Can somebody tell me somebody who can

Google when Boomer shot Adam dama?

00:47:32,333 --> 00:47:33,263

When was that?

00:47:33,833 --> 00:47:35,093

What episode number?

00:47:35,202 --> 00:47:36,432

The Plan: was the season

one finale, right?

00:47:37,167 --> 00:47:37,467

Xhafer: I think

00:47:37,613 --> 00:47:38,183

Laura: Okay.

00:47:38,303 --> 00:47:38,843

Yeah.

00:47:39,263 --> 00:47:41,813

I feel like we're doing

a lot of poetry here.

00:47:42,683 --> 00:47:43,643

I really do.

00:47:43,703 --> 00:47:46,073

'cause this is the season four opener.

00:47:46,073 --> 00:47:47,753

We're pulling a gun on Rosalyn.

00:47:47,753 --> 00:47:50,666

I don't think we're gonna shoot

Rosalyn, but I think they're

00:47:50,666 --> 00:47:52,316

gonna have a good conversation.

00:47:52,316 --> 00:47:52,766

Hopefully.

00:47:53,808 --> 00:47:54,168

I don't know.

00:47:54,168 --> 00:47:56,118

I'd give this like a nine.

00:47:56,838 --> 00:47:59,238

I'm ready for more set up.

00:48:00,018 --> 00:48:05,448

Hopefully we do answer a few questions in

the next episode because when we drug out

00:48:05,448 --> 00:48:10,668

some of that shit with Deanna in season

three and her quest to see the final five,

00:48:10,728 --> 00:48:17,568

that was really annoying when it just drug

on for episodes and episodes and episodes.

00:48:18,858 --> 00:48:19,818

So I don't want that again.

00:48:20,598 --> 00:48:21,798

Give me some answers.

00:48:22,328 --> 00:48:25,226

Xhafer: Well, you might get

some in the next episode.

00:48:25,226 --> 00:48:28,916

Season four, episode two, six of one.

00:48:29,576 --> 00:48:31,976

The silences are in, the

final five are in the fleet.

00:48:32,281 --> 00:48:34,111

Some want cavel to stop.

00:48:34,111 --> 00:48:35,341

Lobotomizing Raiders.

00:48:36,346 --> 00:48:40,156

And Starbuck tries to convince the

others the fleet is going the wrong way.

00:48:40,392 --> 00:48:40,992

Laura: Hmm.

00:48:42,227 --> 00:48:42,517

Okay.

00:48:43,186 --> 00:48:44,686

Xhafer: Sounds kind of mildly answer.

00:48:45,591 --> 00:48:48,741

Laura: Izing Raiders though, huh?

00:48:48,771 --> 00:48:50,066

We haven't heard about that yet.

00:48:51,325 --> 00:48:51,775

Xhafer: Nope.

00:48:52,026 --> 00:48:52,746

Laura: I am interested.

00:48:53,851 --> 00:48:54,141

Okay.

00:48:55,152 --> 00:48:55,662

Xhafer: All right.

00:48:55,752 --> 00:48:56,742

Well, Ben, thanks so much for joining us.

00:48:57,612 --> 00:48:57,732

Laura: I,

00:48:58,247 --> 00:48:59,682

Xhafer: Tell the people

where they can find you.

00:49:00,006 --> 00:49:05,486

The Plan: Well, you can find me right here

on this wonderful podcast Network family

00:49:05,486 --> 00:49:11,969

with last time on where we are currently

our way through uh, Downton Abbey.

00:49:12,029 --> 00:49:13,559

I hope you're happy, Laura.

00:49:13,649 --> 00:49:15,389

I hope you've been enjoying the coverage.

00:49:15,529 --> 00:49:16,129

Laura: is fun for me.

00:49:17,699 --> 00:49:19,199

The Plan: I'm, I'm glad

you're enjoying it.

00:49:19,462 --> 00:49:21,502

I, I, I, I don't hate it.

00:49:21,592 --> 00:49:25,402

I'm just, it's so slow and like.

00:49:26,302 --> 00:49:27,222

If if

00:49:27,442 --> 00:49:28,437

Xhafer: If anybody had,

00:49:28,482 --> 00:49:31,782

The Plan: conversation at

the pace Downton Abbey has in

00:49:31,782 --> 00:49:33,402

Battlestar Galactica, everyone

00:49:33,547 --> 00:49:34,747

Laura: Everyone would be dead.

00:49:34,747 --> 00:49:34,957

Yeah.

00:49:36,042 --> 00:49:36,342

The Plan: Mr.

00:49:36,342 --> 00:49:36,612

Gada.

00:49:36,612 --> 00:49:37,512

What's that, Andres?

00:49:38,352 --> 00:49:40,962

have a terrible secret and I can't

00:49:41,192 --> 00:49:41,412

Laura: Uh,

00:49:41,979 --> 00:49:43,479

The Plan: It's a traits contact.

00:49:43,659 --> 00:49:44,589

Well, where's it coming from?

00:49:44,589 --> 00:49:45,099

Who is it?

00:49:45,150 --> 00:49:45,440

Laura: boom.

00:49:46,089 --> 00:49:47,019

The Plan: I won't tell you.

00:49:47,449 --> 00:49:49,849

Or I'll tell you after we get

back from London and then we get

00:49:49,849 --> 00:49:50,899

hit by nukes and we're all dead.

00:49:50,899 --> 00:49:51,319

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:49:52,269 --> 00:49:52,469

Xhafer: yeah.

00:49:52,684 --> 00:49:53,074

Laura: Yeah.

00:49:53,374 --> 00:49:53,884

No.

00:49:53,974 --> 00:49:59,111

If, call the midwife had actually wrapped

up by this time, I would've chosen that.

00:49:59,141 --> 00:50:02,651

'cause I freaking love call the

midwife and I think everyone

00:50:02,651 --> 00:50:04,181

should watch at least some of it.

00:50:04,845 --> 00:50:08,595

The Plan: I've seen several

episodes of Call the Midwife and

00:50:08,595 --> 00:50:10,395

I can't tell you anything about

00:50:10,446 --> 00:50:10,666

Laura: Uh,

00:50:10,755 --> 00:50:10,905

The Plan: it.

00:50:11,272 --> 00:50:16,845

Except the, there's the, is it, I

forget, is it the buckles or the buttons?

00:50:17,295 --> 00:50:17,415

I

00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:18,250

Laura: There are buckles.

00:50:18,250 --> 00:50:18,550

Yeah.

00:50:18,555 --> 00:50:18,755

Mm-hmm.

00:50:19,995 --> 00:50:22,755

The Plan: I always call them the

buttons by accident and glow is just

00:50:22,755 --> 00:50:24,165

like, I have no idea who you're talking

00:50:24,185 --> 00:50:24,475

Laura: Yeah.

00:50:24,585 --> 00:50:26,505

The Plan: And it was like,

there's, they're the family

00:50:26,505 --> 00:50:28,095

with with the, the, the shop.

00:50:28,275 --> 00:50:29,115

You mean the buckles?

00:50:29,115 --> 00:50:31,605

I'm like, I'm sorry, I went

with the B fastener word.

00:50:32,211 --> 00:50:33,411

I'm not that far off.

00:50:33,441 --> 00:50:33,951

You shouldn't be.

00:50:33,951 --> 00:50:36,501

So like, Ben, you don't

remember anything about my show.

00:50:36,501 --> 00:50:38,901

I'm like, I was 80% of the way there.

00:50:38,901 --> 00:50:39,651

Gimme some credit.

00:50:39,981 --> 00:50:43,101

Laura: To be fair, it's just

so somebody doesn't come in the

00:50:43,101 --> 00:50:44,811

discord like, oh, the midwife sucks.

00:50:44,841 --> 00:50:46,821

It has jumped the shark folks.

00:50:46,851 --> 00:50:51,771

It's, the quality has completely

declined and I could tell you where

00:50:51,771 --> 00:50:54,981

I think it jumped the shark, but

we can do that on the discord.

00:50:54,981 --> 00:50:56,421

So come join me there.

00:50:57,380 --> 00:50:57,800

Xhafer: All right.

00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,750

Well, thanks so much for joining us, Ben.

00:50:59,750 --> 00:51:02,185

As always, as someone we have.

00:51:03,222 --> 00:51:09,882

Some 250 episodes of us talking

on the internet and 20 years

00:51:09,882 --> 00:51:11,442

of conversations between us.

00:51:13,122 --> 00:51:14,202

always a pleasure.

00:51:14,232 --> 00:51:15,432

Thanks so much for joining

00:51:15,443 --> 00:51:15,863

Laura: Yeah

00:51:16,836 --> 00:51:17,646

Xhafer: Uh,

00:51:18,797 --> 00:51:19,847

Laura: and this morning right

00:51:21,276 --> 00:51:21,546

Xhafer: yeah.

00:51:21,606 --> 00:51:25,206

Well, we recorded this morning, but

we just like hung out yesterday.

00:51:26,586 --> 00:51:27,066

Just played some

00:51:27,317 --> 00:51:27,767

Laura: jelly

00:51:27,936 --> 00:51:28,566

Xhafer: Shot the shit.

00:51:29,293 --> 00:51:31,793

anyways Jeremy Siegel, we

should say thank you to you.

00:51:32,243 --> 00:51:33,773

Thanks so much for

composing our theme music.

00:51:33,773 --> 00:51:34,853

We appreciate the hell out of it.

00:51:34,853 --> 00:51:37,793

Find more of his work at Jeremy

Siegel, 40 two.bandcamp.com.

00:51:37,863 --> 00:51:40,203

Laura: and thanks to angry

duck time machine on Instagram

00:51:40,203 --> 00:51:41,048

for the podcast artwork.

00:51:41,736 --> 00:51:44,736

Xhafer: Aaron, thanks so much for

editing this podcast because frankly,

00:51:44,976 --> 00:51:50,556

I haven't had to in years, and if I

had, that'd be a lot of fucking stress.

00:51:50,556 --> 00:51:51,546

So thank you so much.

00:51:52,307 --> 00:51:55,877

Laura: Of course, and thanks to you,

the listener, for being here with us.

00:51:55,907 --> 00:51:59,987

If you wanna talk more season four,

you can talk more about the stuff

00:51:59,987 --> 00:52:02,837

that's already happened if you go

to Spoiler Town on the Discord.

00:52:02,837 --> 00:52:06,047

But if you just wanna talk about

what's happening now, hang out

00:52:06,047 --> 00:52:07,847

with me in current with pod.