We're tackling every gardener's favorite activity: weeding. I know, prob not your fave. But mom and I both take a crack at reframing this maligned garden activity. Let's get on our knees and start plucking!
Want to see pics from the garden? Instagram: @freshclippings
Show art by Alison McKenzie
Production guidance from Evan Roberts
Episode music from Blue Dot Sessions:
Our Son the Potter (Love and Weasel)
Bossa Boa (High Horse)
Gamboler (Pglet)
So there's water falling from the sky, but don't worry.
Topher:My weather app says it's not raining.
Topher:So must be something else.
Topher:The rain is actually one of the reasons I was so excited to move
Topher:to Portland every time it rains.
Topher:I just picture all the plants just freaking out like, yes.
Topher:Ooh.
Topher:Yeah, this is awesome.
Topher:Like they just look like they're having the best time.
Topher:So what I didn't anticipate is that the plants you put in the ground are
Topher:not the only ones who love the rain.
Topher:The weeds love it to.
Topher:And they are making a very aggressive play for basically my entire garden.
Topher:So that's what we're going to address today.
Topher:We are weeding.
Topher:It's not always the most glamorous part of gardening, but I have some
Topher:strategies to make the most of it.
Topher:So come on, let's get outside.
Topher:getting wet, but it's not rain.
Topher:okay.
Topher:So let's get some existential weeding conversations out of the
Topher:way pretty quickly first, you know, most people hate weeding.
Topher:I hear ya.
Topher:I think the reason people hate it is because it's an
Topher:endless task and we hate those.
Topher:Like it's so much better to have something that is just like great.
Topher:That's done.
Topher:Weeding has never finished I'll talk about about some of the strategies I personally
Topher:have to make reading more enjoyable.
Topher:Um, hint, it's mostly psychological sort of slight of hand,
Topher:basically fooling yourself.
Topher:Um, and then.
Topher:Second thing, like really what is weeding?
Topher:You're getting rid of plants that you don't want to be there.
Topher:like there's no real actual scientific definition of weeds
Topher:because they're all just plants.
Topher:. So it's going to, up to you about what you want to get rid of and what you don't to.
Topher:First trick for me.
Topher:And weeding is like, just start with the most obvious thing.
Topher:Like as soon as you step outside, just look around and be like, what needs to go.
Topher:Uh, and so for me, the first thing that leaps to my eye is, um, almost
Topher:these waist high nettle looking things with sweet little yellow flowers that
Topher:have sprung up underneath my makeup.
Topher:So we're going to start there.
Topher:and.
Topher:As soon as you start the task, we'll just kind of like take, take you away with it.
Topher:say, like, okay, for the next 45 minutes, I'm just going to hang out in my garden.
Topher:I'm going to enjoy the sunshine and.
Topher:Just take out all the plants that are kind of ruining my plan or making it
Topher:inhospitable for the plants that I've invited to the party to live peacefully.
Topher:a lot of times I like to.
Topher:Call somebody, uh, when I'm waiting and then, because this is not an
Topher:intellectual enterprise by any stretch.
Topher:So you can be running your mouth while you're lifting plates for the ground.
Topher:Um, and it's kinda nice cause it's, you know, you're outside, you're pretty
Topher:relaxed, but your hands are busy.
Topher:So it makes for good chatting.
Topher:So that chatting tip actually brings up something for me that I've been meaning
Topher:to talk with you guys about, which is that I'm going to put my mom on the show.
Topher:Um, my mom and I talk about lots of stuff, but we will always start
Topher:or in conversations with two things what's going on in the garden.
Topher:And what are you eating?
Topher:. Um, the earliest memories I have of gardening are all connected to my mom.
Topher:So, uh, I actually talked with her about it recently just about
Topher:like, Hey, I'm doing this thing.
Topher:Would you join on the podcast?
Topher:So I thought I'd share some of that here.
Mom:All right.
Mom:So tell me
Topher:what.
Mom:What is your, what are you looking for from
Topher:me?
Mom:It's funny because I don't really even listen to podcasts.
Mom:I used to listen to wait, wait, don't tell me which that was hilarious,
Mom:but then it was harder during COVID, you know, cause people were closeted.
Mom:Literally it didn't have this.
Topher:I was gonna ask, uh, we're enjoying spring and the weeds are
Topher:enjoying spring quite a bit over here.
Topher:So I'm going to do a lot of weeding this week.
Topher:And I wanted to ask for weeding tips.
Topher:So is
Mom:this like, are we in it now?
Topher:Yeah,
Mom:cause I was just going to tell you,
Topher:I do
Mom:tend to be a lazy Wieder I'll tell you though.
Mom:One thing that I have figured out, uh, it is to me, it's kind of that old
Mom:kitchen time saves nine kind of thing.
Mom:Because anything that you don't, that you don't take care of now then
Mom:tend to have lots of little babies.
Mom:I find myself, despite my laziness, I find myself working pretty good.
Mom:Uh, seriously during this time of year, because it makes a huge difference.
Mom:there's that.
Mom:And there is also the fact that one minute weed is another man's really
Mom:pretty flower, like dandelion.
Mom:A lot of people absolutely hate dandelions, but they make
Mom:good soup and they sure send up some pretty flowers, you know.
Topher:Have you made dandelion
Mom:soup before?
Mom:Oh, heck yeah.
Mom:When, when I was living in Germany, there were so many, um, dandelions
Mom:sat on the playground that I made.
Mom:All my kids pick dandelions.
Topher:Yeah.
Topher:How do you make that?
Topher:What's in dandy land?
Mom:Not tremendously pleased with it.
Mom:I have to be because it's kind of bitter, you know, but it's
Topher:been Tricia.
Topher:What did you just make them boil weeds and water and drink?
Topher:It sounds very punitive.
Mom:I had the mom spring green, hot plates in and yeah.
Mom:And then they came.
Mom:Hey, Brian, good German bread and butter.
Mom:All of those things, the desserts, the bread and butter went a lot
Mom:faster than the dandelion soup I do,
Topher:well, isn't she just the gym.
Topher:I'm so excited.
Topher:Have her as part of this podcast, sometimes I think
Topher:we'll be asking her for advice.
Topher:Like, I don't know how to do something or what her perspective, sometimes
Topher:just chilling out, talking about gardening, seeing what's going on
Topher:and her garden and Albuquerque.
Topher:Um, so yeah, I don't, I've been racking my brain to think of like
Topher:a more cogent way to talk about how we're bringing mom into the picture,
Topher:but I couldn't figure anything out.
Topher:So now you've met her.
Topher:You're acquainted.
Topher:You'll be hearing more from her.
Topher:So heads up
Topher:so this mysterious sprinkles I was complaining about
Topher:earlier, pretty much dried up.
Topher:We're getting some occasional sun shower stuff, but overall it's
Topher:turned into a pretty nice day.
Topher:Uh, there is actually a reason why I'm at.
Topher:Well, it's reading besides the fact that it's raining a lot and
Topher:probably I couldn't avoid it.
Topher:Um, it's actually easier to weed when the ground is wet.
Topher:Uh, cause this stuff just kind of comes out easier.
Topher:Um, I hate waiting and dry soil cause the soccer's just kind of dig in there
Topher:and it's much harder to get them out.
Topher:Okay here.
Topher:This is case in point for the dangers of weeding.
Topher:Uh, I mean, it's basically a gardening gateway drug because I'm waiting, then
Topher:I'm getting rid of the monster Clover kind of blocking some area of my garden bed.
Topher:And then all of a sudden, now I'm holding a bag of micro Clover seed.
Topher:And all of a sudden I'm planting that wasn't in the plan.
Topher:It's a dangerous slippery.
Topher:Give a mouse, a cookie type of situation where now suddenly I'm
Topher:planting seeds in the ground.
Topher:I've gone off the rails, but I things in my hand already fell.
Topher:Let's just get this done.
Topher:Finding Clover is great because you just sprinkle it and then
Topher:that's kind of the end of it.
Topher:You're not even really gardening.
Topher:It's more like you're seasoning something pinch of Clover season with Clover today.
Topher:Next thing, you know, I'm going to be getting in the car and go
Topher:into home Depot or the nursery
Topher:I'll wake up from a fugue state in Boise, Idaho, volunteering for
Topher:some sort of utopian plant commune.
Topher:oh, well, bless it repeated.
Topher:I can't possibly do any more because I ran into a seat and I'm
Topher:not going to make a shopping trip.
Topher:So let's just call an end and, and, uh, I've got a big pile of weeds.
Topher:Now it's going to go in the compost and it starting to look like it's
Topher:getting serious about rain again.
Topher:And even if that weren't the case, I'd just pretend it was the reason I'm ready
Topher:to be done with weeding for the day.
Topher:They hope that.
Topher:Some of the stuff helps you guys, but also like, I dunno, let the weeds grow.
Topher:It's up to you.
Topher:What's your garden?
Topher:Alright, I see a few more stragglers.
Topher:So I'm going to pick these up while we're saying goodbye,
Topher:because reading is never done.
Topher:Um, but yeah, if you haven't, uh, followed us on Instagram, we're fresh clippings.
Topher:I'll post a picture of the weed pile cause wow.
Topher:Never seen one of those before.
Topher:Right.
Topher:Um, it's been a pleasure as well.
Topher:Thank you so much for joining me on planet time.
Topher:Look forward to seeing you in the garden.
Topher:Again, soon,
Topher:all this one's roots are wow.
Topher:It's like one of those zits that they pop just keeps.