Ever feel like marketing advice demands you pick just one niche—but your caseload says otherwise? If you love working with a range of clients and fear that niching down means giving up what you enjoy, this episode is for you.
In this special "Ask Anna" edition, I answer a question therapists ask all the time: "How do I market my practice if I don’t want to give up variety?" We dig into the real issue behind that question (spoiler: it's not actually about variety) and explore how to create a clear, compelling message without boxing yourself in.
You’ll learn about the "Red Thread" framework I teach inside my programs—a strategy that helps you tie together your range of interests so your marketing feels both focused and freeing.
Here’s what you’ll learn in this episode:
1️⃣ Why the fear of picking "wrong" keeps so many therapists stuck between joyless clarity and vague marketing
2️⃣ How the "Red Thread" helps you connect the dots between diverse client types and a cohesive message
3️⃣ The four types of Red Threads (person, problem, outcome, and approach) and how to discover which fits your practice best
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About Marketing Therapy
Marketing Therapy is the podcast where therapists learn how to market their private practices without burnout, self-doubt, or sleazy tactics. Hosted by Anna Walker—marketing coach, strategist, and founder of Walker Strategy Co—each episode brings you clear, grounded advice to help you attract the right-fit, full-fee clients and grow a practice you feel proud of.
Hey there.
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:Welcome back to Marketing
Therapy episode 18.
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:Today we're kicking off what will likely
be an intermittent series called Ask Anna.
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:So this is where I'm going to be answering
real questions I get from therapists,
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:whether that's in our dms email inside
my programs, or from the clients
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:that I've worked with over the years.
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:Because let's be honest, if one person
is asking it, hundreds are quietly
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:wondering the same thing, right?
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:And today's question, it's funny,
when I put out our first ask for
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:the Ask Anna episode, I got this in
three different places, different
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:versions of the same question.
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:It is truly one of the most common
ones that I get, and quite frankly,
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:one of the most misunderstood.
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:So today I'm answering a question
I received from Melissa via
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:email and Robin in our Facebook
group among many, many others.
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:And that question is essentially,
what do I do when I like variety?
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:Does it mean that I can't
market myself effectively?
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:Do I have to pick just one thing?
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:What do I do if I enjoy variety?
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:This comes up constantly.
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:I am regularly, I'm talking weekly
coaching clinicians on this in our
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:Confident Copy program, and this comes up
with therapists who are brand new and with
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:those who are seasoned, been in practice
for years, and it makes a ton of sense.
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:Because when you hear people
talk about marketing or niching,
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:it's often presented in this all
or nothing black and white way.
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:It's like your only choices are pick one
population, stick with it forever, you're
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:married to it now, or give up on having a
clear niche or a specific message and just
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:throw a laundry list of issues out there.
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:Here's what I wanna say and what we're
gonna talk about in this episode.
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:This isn't really about variety.
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:This is about the fear that if you
choose wrong, you're either gonna
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:lose clients or you're gonna lose joy.
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:Am I right?
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:If you're sitting here listening
right now and you enjoy working with
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:this wide variety of clients and you
feel like all the marketing advice
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:has told you, you can't do that.
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:If you want to be effective, then you
feel like you're left with two choices.
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:Lose clients because you're not marketing
effectively or lose joy because you're
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:burnt out serving only one of those
populations in the name of marketing.
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:So what you're really asking, what Robin
and Melissa, and so many of you are really
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:asking is, how do I market myself without
sacrificing the parts of my work I love?
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:That's exactly what we're
gonna talk about today.
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:Because yes, you can
have a dynamic caseload.
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:Yes, you can love doing
multiple things and yes, you
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:can market yourself effectively.
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:You can attract full fee
right-fit clients while doing so.
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:Now first I wanna look at what's going
on underneath this primary question
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:because when someone asks, what if I like
working with lots of different types of
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:clients on the surface, that sounds like
a branding issue or a messaging issue.
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:But when you dig a little bit deeper,
it's not really actually about variety.
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:It's about fear, which so many
of our marketing challenges are
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:when we're honest with ourselves.
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:Fear that if you get too specific.
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:You'll lose out on clients.
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:You could help fear if you narrow
in, you're gonna box yourself
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:into something that doesn't feel
sustainable or leads to burnout.
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:Fear that you're gonna cut off
part of your identity, something
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:you've enjoyed for many years.
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:Possibly fear that you're gonna cut off
part of your income and end up stuck
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:in something you don't actually enjoy.
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:So this fear often gets masked by
a kind of internal tug of war that
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:I see, and I hear this often when
coaching clinicians in confident copy.
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:They say things like, I know I
should be more clear, but I don't
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:want to pick just one thing.
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:I want my caseload to feel sustainable,
but I also want it to be full.
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:I want to enjoy my work, but I
also want clients to actually
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:find me and pay my full fee.
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:I want to sound like a specialist
or an expert, but I don't want to
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:abandon the things I'm good at.
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:And the result of all that tension
is most therapists default to
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:trying to say everything at once.
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:I see this often when encouraging
folks to share their niche
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:statements in our Facebook group.
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:They will try and pack absolutely
everything they could possibly
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:do as a therapist into their
niche and into their marketing.
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:They write a homepage for their
website that lists every single
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:demographic they could serve.
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:Every presenting issue,
every modality they use
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:they initiate networking conversations
where that new person they've met
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:likes them, but they have no idea who's
actually the right fit to send their way.
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:It is these therapists trying to
hit every single note just in case.
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:Let me cover my bases,
is what I see So many do.
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:But here's what I want to gently
say, and this is ultimately something
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:that I think the people asking this
question already know that when you
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:try to speak to everyone in the same
sentence, no one really hears you
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:because no one feels truly seen.
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:Your favorite clients, the ones
you absolutely love working with.
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:That light you up.
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:You get excited when you
see them on your calendar.
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:They're not looking for a
therapist who says everything
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:or claims to work with everyone.
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:They're looking for someone who gets them.
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:Someone who can name what they're going
through in a way that makes them stop
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:and think, are you, in my head, it
feels like this was written just for me.
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:That's the type of experience clients in
this market in particular are seeking.
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:They don't know that.
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:But when we see what actually resonates
and what doesn't, that's the type
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:of experience they're looking for.
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:And when you try to hedge your bets
and just speak to everyone, spray and
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:pray, as we say, you dilute the thing
that would actually make you stand out.
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:This episode is about a lot of
different things, but if there's only
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:one thing you take away, I want you
to remember that there's a reason.
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:That clients choose you.
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:Even if you serve teens, couples, people
with trauma and eating disorders, this
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:big variety of clients, there's a reason
every single one of those chooses you.
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:And if you are using your marketing to
spray and pray, and you are not hitting on
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:that reason, that thing that leads them.
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:To choose you, then you will sound vague
and you will dilute the expertise that
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:your clients are ultimately looking for.
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:So often I see clinicians make this
mistake and the cost is massive.
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:They get on consults and feel
like they're auditioning for
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:jobs they didn't even apply for.
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:Can you resonate with that?
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:Have you ever been on a consult where you
feel that way or clients aren't actually
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:a fit, but they take 'em on because they
did reach out and they need someone?
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:Sometimes they even have a caseload that's
technically full, but it's not energizing.
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:It's not exciting.
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:It's not lighting them up and
reminding them why they got
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:into this work to begin with.
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:Oftentimes, I'll also see in these
clinicians kind of this low key anxiety
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:about raising their rates or putting
themselves out there because they're not
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:sure how to do that without losing people.
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:That's what they're operating from
is this fear of losing people,
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:of excluding, and so they end up
staying small in their marketing.
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:And oftentimes there's
this weird sense of shame.
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:You know, you see other therapists
out there being super successful and
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:maybe enjoying variety and somehow
they've got something you don't.
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:And so it can really feel like
you should be able to better
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:explain the work you do by now.
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:I think that's the real tension here.
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:And here's what's extra tricky.
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:A lot of therapists try to solve
this by doing what the internet
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:tells them to do or chat GPT.
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:So they force themselves, they
pigeonhole into one population or
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:one age group, one issue in the name
of niching, and then they end up
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:attracting only that kind of client.
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:And while the marketing feels a little
bit clearer, the work feels flat.
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:And repetitive and limiting.
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:And the clients who do this, who
narrow themselves in the name of
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:marketing, they miss the richness
of the variety they once had.
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:Maybe you're someone who enjoyed variety
in a group practice or community mental
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:health setting, and then launched your
private practice and quote unquote
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:niched because you were quote unquote
told to, and now you're like, I miss.
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:Those age groups, I
miss those demographics.
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:I miss treating those issues, and you
can start to feel a little bored or a
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:little burnt out, and then it feels like
you're back to this black and white thing.
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:Well, I either stay here or I go broad
and I go back to being vague and generic.
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:I want to tell you right now
that there is a third option
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:one where your message is clear.
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:And your caseload is energizing and your
clients feel seen in your marketing, not
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:just as a checkbox on a list, oh yes,
I qualify for this item on the laundry
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:list, but as a real human with real needs
that you are uniquely equipped to help.
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:That's what I wanna talk about next as we
get into really answering this question.
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:How do I maintain variety in my marketing?
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:So this third alternative, what do you do
when you enjoy working with a wide range
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:of people, but you still want to attract
full fee, right-fit clients without
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:being scattered or generic or boring.
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:You find your red thread.
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:Your red thread is a concept that
if my confident copy students
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:are here listening, or maybe
you're a magnetic niche method
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:student, you know all about this.
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:Your red thread is about tying together
the variety of clients that you enjoy
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:and finding that thing, that reason that
those clients pick you regardless of which
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:bucket or category they may fall into.
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:Because here's what I
believe about this work.
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:I believe you can have as
much variety as you want.
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:I believe you can have a
beautifully diverse and interesting
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:and sustainable caseload.
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:You just need a message that
ties it all together, and that
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:is what the Red Thread does.
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:It's the through line, the theme that runs
underneath all the work you love to do.
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:It's what makes you not a generalist,
whatever that is, that's your red thread.
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:It's what gives your practice focus.
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:Even if all your clients don't
all look the same on paper.
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:Now, there are four kinds of red threads
that we see most often and that we
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:have seen be incredibly effective,
particularly in the private pay space.
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:You don't have to memorize these, but
when you hear them, I'm guessing one
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:or two might instantly click for you.
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:So there's four types of red threads.
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:The first is a person based.
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:This means that you work
with a type of person.
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:Even if the circumstances for
that person are different.
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:So that can be high achieving women, new
parents, helpers, neurodivergent people.
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:The details vary, but it's this
identity thread that's consistent.
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:So if you reflect on the variety that
you enjoy, the clients that light you up.
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:Is their common denominator.
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:Something about who they are.
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:Then there's a problem based red thread.
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:This is the traditional version
of thinking about a niche, and
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:that's where you help people
through a really specific struggle.
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:So traditionally that's, well, I do grief
or I do trauma, but it can actually be a
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:lot more creative than that if you want.
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:It can be anxiety that's rooted in
perfectionism or overthinking people
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:pleasing a disconnection from yourself.
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:Relationship issues.
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:So in a problem based red thread, you
can work with teens and couples and
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:adults, but they're all navigating
the same internal challenge.
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:That's the theme in
this type of red thread.
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:Now the latter two red threads that
I'm gonna share here are especially
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:powerful if you have a wide range
of clients you enjoy serving.
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:So when I am coaching clinicians
through this in confident copy and we're
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:deciding how to articulate their red
thread and how to put words to their
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:niche, if they have what feels like very
disparate specialties, usually one of
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:these is what we lean into most heavily.
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:So the next one is outcome based.
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:So this is you focusing on
the result or the outcome.
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:People want out of therapy, even
if they're coming from different
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:backgrounds, different demographics,
different presenting issues.
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:Your clients want to feel more
confident, more connected.
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:They want to experience long-term change.
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:They want to restore a sense of
joy or balance in their life.
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:They wanna heal the root cause.
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:The desire here is the common thread.
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:And that can be really, really
powerful if you have a wide range
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:of presenting issues because you as
a clinician are likely leading them
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:to some similar end point, right?
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:So reflecting on that can be powerful.
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:And then finally is the
approach based red thread.
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:So this is the one that's
about how you work.
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:So if you notice the first three person
problem and outcome, they were about your
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:clients and what they have in common.
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:Sometimes you are your niche, so it
could be your method, it can be something
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:very specific like E-M-D-R-I-F-S, brain
spotting, relational life therapy,
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:or it can just be your style, your
environment, your direct, honest, no BS
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:approach, your inclusive environment.
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:Clients are drawn to you in
this case, not just for what you
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:help with, but how you do it.
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:So those are the four kinds of red thread
person problem, outcome, and approach.
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:And at this point, I have coached
thousands of clinicians in this
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:framework and seen the way that it can
liberate clinicians who have felt bound
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:by the traditional niching advice.
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:And enjoy rich variety while still having
a very clear and focused message that
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:establishes them as an expert, as a
specialist in the minds of their clients.
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:Now, most of the clients I work with often
see themselves in more than one of these.
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:So if I just ran through this and you're
like, well, I see similarities in all of
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:them, you're absolutely not alone in that.
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:That's very, very normal.
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:In Confident Copy, we help you figure
out which one or two are going to create
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:the strongest foundation for your niche.
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:Because yes, there are likely themes
in all of these, but which one or
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:two are really the cornerstones for
you to base your marketing upon?
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:And here's the key there.
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:We always come back to
the client's perspective.
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:What are they looking for?
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:What do they think they need help with?
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:What's going to make them stop scrolling?
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:And say to themselves, this feels
like me for your example, maybe your
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:red thread is your somatic approach.
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:You realize that that's the common theme.
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:But if your clients are mostly
showing up, just saying, I wanna feel
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:less anxious in my relationships,
we need to lead with that.
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:They aren't necessarily
seeking out somatic therapy.
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:And so the approach based red thread
might not be the best fit there.
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:Can you see what I mean?
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:So you're still using the somatic work?
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:But your marketing is speaking to what
your clients are actually aware of
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:right this minute that my friends is
how you enjoy variety and still have
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:focused effective marketing, particularly
when it comes to private pay clients.
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:Now, once we identify a red thread,
it's one thing to know this, it's
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:another to bring it to life, right?
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:So here's how we do that.
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:We start by writing a niche
statement that reflects your variety.
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:We need to make sure that we
are calling out those distinct
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:groups, but still feels cohesive.
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:It's the kind of thing where every
single one of your ideal clients could
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:read it and feel like, yes, that's me.
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:So it's about figuring out a way to
language the work that you do in such
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:a way that every single client would be
like, are you speaking directly to me?
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:That's the cool part of a red thread.
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:'cause that's actually possible
when we figure out what yours is.
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:After that, we look at
your website structure.
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:Okay?
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:So we need to make sure that there is
a clear path for each of the different
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:types of clients that you work with.
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:It's not that we are just
mashing them all together and
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:marketing to them all at once.
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:We need to make sure that there's a
home for each one of those different
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:specialties on your website.
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:We don't want anyone to
feel like an afterthought.
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:We want everyone to feel like they
belong because you are speaking to
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:them specifically, and that happens
primarily through your website structure.
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:Then we bring that red thread into places
like your homepage and your about page,
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:the more universal pages of your website.
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:That way, no matter who lands
on your site, they feel seen.
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:They feel like you get it, and they trust
that you're someone who can help them.
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:So that red thread becomes a theme
for all of the marketing that you do.
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:And then the specialties underneath
that, those different demographics or
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:presenting issues that you enjoy, those
become the pillars of your marketing.
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:So sometimes you lean into
your red thread more heavily.
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:Sometimes you lean into those
pillars more heavily, but they
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:all work together as a system.
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:'cause here's the thing, you
do not need a single narrow
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:niche to get full fee clients.
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:What you need is a clear and cohesive
message that shows people what makes
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:you the right therapist for them.
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:Because again, if there's anything
you take away from this episode,
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:I want it to be the reminder that
there is a reason people pick you.
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:There is a reason you are the right
therapist for the right client.
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:Once we figure out what that something
is, we unlock the power of your marketing.
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:The thing I love most about this
red thread framework and putting
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:it into action with clinicians
is watching the shift in energy.
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:That happens when therapists
see it come together.
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:It actually just happened
today in Confident Copy.
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:I have been working over the last week
with a newer student on figuring out her
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:niche, and today it clicked and she said,
I know my clients can see themselves in
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:these words, there's a sense of relief and
excitement kind of sitting up straighter
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:and being like, yes, I found it.
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:I found it.
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:Those light bulb moments
are the best because.
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:It is, it's liberating from the
traditional advice they've gotten that
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:they have to make themselves small
or box themselves in to be effective.
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:That's what this work is about,
helping you own the work you
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:do best and then reflect it in
a way that actually connects.
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:When therapists land on their red
thread and really start to put this
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:concretely together, everything begins
to shift and not just in theory,
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:I've seen it over and over again.
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:They start getting inquiries from
RightFit clients, people who actually
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:feel aligned with their work, who
are willing to pay their full fee.
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:Without a ton of
handholding or convincing.
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:I think one of my favorite things I hear
from Confident Copy students, and I've
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:heard this from a handful of them, is
they get on consult calls and clients
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:read the website, copy back to them,
like proving how deeply they connected
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:with it and the consults, they often
start to feel easier 'cause the person
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:on the other end already feels connected.
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:They already feel seen.
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:They already know what they want.
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:And they already trust that you're the
therapist who can help them get it.
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:Your marketing did this heavy lifting
in this initial rapport building
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:that when you get on the phone,
you're already 50% of the way there.
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:I love hearing from clinicians after they
unlock this too, that they feel confident
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:raising their fees, that they don't feel
like they have to niche down further in
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:order to justify that they see the value
of what they're offering and they've
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:put words to it, and that is empowering.
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:And even beyond the marketing
wins, there's something
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:more personal that happens.
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:Right?
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:And this is, again, getting back to
the fundamental fear that is underlying
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:this common question about variety.
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:It feels like you have to sacrifice
either clients or joy, right?
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:The fear that you're missing something.
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:All of a sudden, you don't
have to sacrifice your joy
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:in the name of marketing.
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:You don't have to erase the nuance
of your work in order to sound clear.
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:You can be the versatile, dynamic,
multi-passionate clinician that you are
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:and still run a premium ful fee practice.
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:I think that's the greatest win of all.
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:No longer defaulting to a niche
that doesn't fit or staying stuck
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:in that vague middle zone that
isn't really helping anyone.
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:You start speaking clearly, you
start showing up powerfully, and
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:your marketing finally reflects the
depth, the variety, the richness,
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:and the quality of your work.
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:So I've been chatting for a while,
but hopefully offering a helpful
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:answer for anyone who has been
sitting here thinking to themselves,
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:how do I do this well, when I enjoy
so many different types of clients?
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:So Melissa, Robin, I hope this
was helpful for you and I hope it
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:was helpful to anyone else that
has wrestled with that question.
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:If this conversation has hit home for you,
and if you have been trying to figure out
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:how to talk about the work that you do
without shrinking it down to some box, or
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:if you've been holding back from marketing
because nothing feels quite right, I want
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:you to know that we can help with that.
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:And that's actually exactly what we do.
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:Inside of Confident Copy.
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:We help therapists like you define
your red thread, shape it into a
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:niche that still honors your variety,
and then most importantly, bring it
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:to life in your marketing in a way
that actually resonates with those
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:clients that you love working with.
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:The ones who are ready, who are
full fee, who feel like a yes.
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:From the very first email you get from
them and if you've been stuck in that
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:place where you're trying to sound clear,
but end up feeling boxed in, please
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:know today that there is a better way.
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:So over the next few weeks, I'm
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:the scenes of Confident Copy.
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:What happens, the power of the coaching,
the community, the curriculum there.
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:If you're not already on our
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:There's a link in the show notes to
join the wait list for Confident Copy.
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:By joining the wait list,
you get an extra discount.
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:But you also qualify for a
continuing support bonus that I've
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:never offered in this way before.
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:That allows us to continue working
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:the Confident Copy Program so
I can really help you implement
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:as you move on from the program.
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:Now, whatever it is that you choose
to do, whether I see you in Confident
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:Copy, where I would love to support
you or not, please know that you
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:don't have to give up variety,
nuance, or joy just to market better.
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:There is a better way and I would
love the opportunity to show it to
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the very least, by continuing to hang
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I'll see you in the next episode.