Shownotes
It's Supernatural, Season Seven Episode Three the Girl Next Door. We love this episode until we hate it so much that it is painful. Why Dean Winchester? Why? What is wrong with you. BUT we go deep deep on Kitsune! Which are nothing like what was in this episode. And even find a way to work in Babymetal!
Research Links
- Daji - Wikipedia
- Japan’s ‘killing stone’ splits in two, releasing superstitions amid the sulphur springs | Japan | The Guardian
- Tamamo-no-Mae - Wikipedia
- Myōbu – Yokai.com
- What Does the Fox Say? The Meaning Behind the Kitsune Mask - MyAnimeList.net
- Megitsune (English Translation) – BABYMETAL | Genius Lyrics
- 7 Types Of Kitsune Spirits In Japan | by Graveyard Goon | Medium
- Kitsune - Wikipedia
- Far Eastern Fox Lore on JSTOR
- Nogitsune – Yokai.com
- Kitsune – Yokai.com
- Kitsune – Mythical Creatures Guide
- The Kitsune: Meaning, Types & Powers | Japan Avenue
- What is Kitsune? Types - Tales & Everything You Need to Know – Japanese Oni Masks
Transcripts
Jerk:
Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast. I'm Diana.
Bitch:
I'm Liz. I was like, what is my name? Who am I?
Jerk:
Who am I? What am I?
Bitch:
What am I? What are we doing here?
Jerk:
What does it all really mean?
Bitch:
I think, I think we're here to talk about a television show.
Jerk:
Yes, I think you're right. Season seven, episode three, The Girl Next Door.
Bitch:
Aww, girl next door. You sound so sweet.
Jerk:
Oh, it does. Sucks if you got tricked by that.
Bitch:
Right? Honestly, like if you think about like, you shouldn't date the person next door. Like I have not met my next door neighbors, but I don't wanna date them. Pretty sure it's a bad idea.
Jerk:
I think I tried to date a neighbor once.
Bitch:
Oh, no, I have I've dated somebody in the same apartment complex.
Jerk:
Yeah,
Bitch:
That was not good.
Jerk:
it's complicated
Bitch:
It's not good.
Jerk:
too. It's complicated.
Bitch:
It's not it's not it's not a good idea. I think I had one apartment complex. I was in college where like everybody was begging, right? Like, that's kind of what happens in apartment complexes in college, right? Like
Jerk:
Sure. I mean, yeah. I feel like that's what happens then.
Bitch:
Yeah.
Jerk:
This was not then.
Bitch:
Oh,
Jerk:
This
Bitch:
oh, okay.
Jerk:
was later. This is grown up Diana who knew better.
Bitch:
Yeah,
Jerk:
Pre-Dave.
Bitch:
I
Jerk:
So,
Bitch:
hope. Well, I don't know. I mean, y'all, I
Jerk:
to
Bitch:
mean,
Jerk:
be clear. To
Bitch:
to
Jerk:
be
Bitch:
be
Jerk:
clear.
Bitch:
clear
Jerk:
It
Bitch:
that it was not Dave, to be clear, it was not
Jerk:
was
Bitch:
babe.
Jerk:
not Dave. It was not babe and it was before babe. So.
Bitch:
Oh, so what does Dave have the best big D in Dallas? We're going to talk about what Diana
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
did today and why she knows who has the best big D.
Jerk:
I know. Of course I know. Yeah, yeah, you know, the best of Big D is a big celebration about the best culture, nightlife, shopping, whatever, all the things of the city of Dallas. And one of the places I happen to work for is the recipient of an award named I got to be on the news and sit by a giant sign that said best of Big D. Best of Big D is what it said if you caught it just right.
Bitch:
You got it just right. That's the first picture I got was best big D. And what was funny is I sent it to one of my friends, uh, and without even commenting, she comes back, she's like best big D. And I was like, yeah, we're not letting her forget that one for a while.
Jerk:
Yeah, so but yeah, that's a fun, fun early morning surprise.
Bitch:
That's very exciting,
Jerk:
Definitely
Bitch:
yeah.
Jerk:
had to change my hair washing schedule for it. But you know, sometimes you do these things. I
Bitch:
Oh,
Jerk:
don't
Bitch:
the sacrifice.
Jerk:
know. It's such a sacrifice.
Bitch:
Although like, I really like I was hoping I want you to get a segment or to come back and do a cooking segment because I just went into a cooking segment on a morning show.
Jerk:
Really?
Bitch:
Those just seem like they're ridiculous.
Jerk:
Do
Bitch:
And
Jerk:
you
Bitch:
I
Jerk:
want
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just
Jerk:
to
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want
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know
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to
Jerk:
what
Bitch:
do
Jerk:
I cooked
Bitch:
one.
Jerk:
today? I cooked, I don't know if your family ever did it, the old school taco salad with Catalina dressing and Doritos. It's a
Bitch:
I
Jerk:
classic.
Bitch:
don't know why I made a face. I mean, that sounds
Jerk:
It's a
Bitch:
delicious,
Jerk:
classic.
Bitch:
but no, that is not something my
Jerk:
Really?
Bitch:
family made. It is
Jerk:
Oh,
Bitch:
not. Although like, I was like, hey,
Jerk:
definitely had that
Bitch:
I
Jerk:
this
Bitch:
made
Jerk:
morning.
Bitch:
something very similar to that today, except that it had like turkey. It was like ground turkey and chicken with black beans and arugula and brown rice. So kind of like yours.
Jerk:
That sounds way healthier. Mine was like ground beef with taco seasoning in it. Got lettuce,
Bitch:
Look,
Jerk:
tomato,
Bitch:
somebody
Jerk:
beans,
Bitch:
sent
Jerk:
all
Bitch:
me
Jerk:
the things.
Bitch:
like a dozen cookies and a bunch of cupcakes, which
Jerk:
Well, it's
Bitch:
I then
Jerk:
somebody's
Bitch:
proceed.
Jerk:
birthday,
Bitch:
Yeah,
Jerk:
so I mean.
Bitch:
so I ate all of them and then felt horrible for like a day.
Jerk:
Aww.
Bitch:
And I was like, I just need something green.
Jerk:
Yeah,
Bitch:
There needs to
Jerk:
that
Bitch:
be
Jerk:
happens.
Bitch:
green in my stomach.
Jerk:
That happens. But yeah, so now we had the old school classic Dorito taco salad for dinner. So I'm pretty stoked
Bitch:
Oh, that's
Jerk:
about
Bitch:
that
Jerk:
it.
Bitch:
was your dinner. I was gonna say,
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
yeah, I will probably have something similar. Honestly, just like, I'll have that food because I haven't put up most of it from lunch. Like I put up the things that were going bad, but like the rice is still in like the Instant Pot because
Jerk:
Yeah,
Bitch:
I did not have time to get to that. Yeah.
Jerk:
it happens. That happens. Uh, what else is going on with you? You're on vacation countdown.
Bitch:
Oh, yeah, but it's in that point where you can't see the light and everything is you're just buried. I have like a bookcase or thing that's like halfway built in my room right now. It's just like just the frame is there and on you like the cat comes in. She's like, what? What is happening here? I'm like, I had to go do other shit. Like, I got part of it. But what is exciting is that this weekend? Maybe it's been out for a few weeks. I don't know but icons unleashed or unearthed whatever on vice has a special on fast and the furious and So it's being narrated by Chad Lindbergh who I love and everybody in the SBN family loves because it's fucking ash So ash who WV did not know was also in the first fast and the furious and he played not Jesse But he died so he dies in the first one and he dies in supernatural and he talks about how
Jerk:
Oh.
Bitch:
he's a person who
Jerk:
Dies
Bitch:
often
Jerk:
and shows.
Bitch:
dies because he has a face that when something happens to it you feel bad.
Jerk:
Oh, I mean, I guess that's
Bitch:
And
Jerk:
something
Bitch:
it's
Jerk:
to be known
Bitch:
just
Jerk:
for.
Bitch:
true. I feel bad every time he dies and I'm just, I love him. I would like to be snuggle buddies with Chad Lindbergh. So it was very nice to watch him talking about my favorite show. And so favorite movie series or whatever, but it's really amazing. Like I highly recommend because of the second one, like they talk about, like it's all Tyrese and it's
Jerk:
Ooh.
Bitch:
Tyrese like talking about how the second one got made. And he's so fucking cocky. And I love it. Like I love him to death. Like he's just he's just perfect. So
Jerk:
that's hilarious.
Bitch:
anyways, that's. the if you need things for a mind break. That was a very good mind break. Just like, oh, it's not even watching Fast and the Furious. It's watching things
Jerk:
to get
Bitch:
about
Jerk:
about
Bitch:
Fast
Jerk:
the best.
Bitch:
and the Furious. But like, there's a lot of it like, it's, I don't know, like, it's all the behind the scenes stuff about like, how a lot of the stunts were made, and which is all just super like, if you like cars and stuff, like just
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
figuring out like, how each car was made and like how it was different for each movie, and like figuring out what was CGI and what was it, like
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
that's also really neat to know.
Jerk:
That's cool. That's cool.
Bitch:
Alright, ready?
Jerk:
Whereas my mindless TV and yours are very different, though, because I just finished watching Swiping America, which is a dating show. That's why Max was really enjoyable.
Bitch:
Yeah, I saw that I was like, is this about like you getting murdered on a dating app? And then
Jerk:
You don't
Bitch:
I saw
Jerk:
get murdered.
Bitch:
it wasn't so then I didn't watch it.
Jerk:
It's not about getting murdered, not dating. It's a reality dating show.
Bitch:
Yeah, it's super funny. So I really want to do a talk or something more career-wise on how women or just people in general can leverage basically open source intelligence to find out things about the people on their dating app. And the first guy that I asked if he wanted to participate in, who also works in my industry, like unmatched me. Like first he asked me like, what are you going to do with the information? And I guess I waited too long to answer him because I was working. And so like a couple of hours later, I looked back and he is unmatched me. I guess he was like hoping to see, like for me to be like, can I see your dick? Not. I want to like, I want to do like this thing about all the information I can find about you. Of course,
Jerk:
Yum.
Bitch:
with that fucker doesn't realize is that I already found his goddamn information from his name and his and his leg. I think he had his first name, his last initial and a picture. And he had like, I work in my industry at this place you can't know. So I found that out in like a minute. I was like, Oh, look, here's the company you work at. And then I was like, okay, let's find out where you live. Let's find out what your cell phone number is. Let's find out how much money you make. And I didn't even tell that dude that I found out all that information. And
Jerk:
surprise.
Bitch:
I would have like, like suppressed that information. But since I don't have to ask his permission because it's on the fucking internet, like.
Jerk:
Oof.
Bitch:
Yeah, someone's gonna get a painful wake up. So you should have you should have hung out. Mr. Dude from Austin If you
Jerk:
Oh.
Bitch:
watch my pot if you watch this podcast You know, we may meet again
Jerk:
Oh my gosh. Ridiculous.
Bitch:
Okay, damn it. I'm trying to put it off, man, and I can't anymore. All
Jerk:
Now
Bitch:
right, let's talk
Jerk:
we gotta
Bitch:
about
Jerk:
get
Bitch:
it.
Jerk:
we gotta get we gotta talk about this.
Bitch:
Well, I'm really excited about lore, so I will use that to get
Jerk:
to get
Bitch:
me
Jerk:
there.
Bitch:
through. To get
Jerk:
Okay.
Bitch:
me through. All right. And also this is the girl next door and it was episode three. And what else is very important about this is that it was directed by Jensen Ackles. So this was always, this is I think a second one that he did. And so the last, the first one he did was last season, season seven. Don't hit me. Um, but. like in the last season, they filmed this first, I think it was, I'm such a bad person
Jerk:
They
Bitch:
this
Jerk:
did film
Bitch:
week.
Jerk:
it out of order. We knew that we talked
Bitch:
Yeah.
Jerk:
about that because the
Bitch:
The other one,
Jerk:
there's another
Bitch:
the
Jerk:
one's
Bitch:
other last
Jerk:
late
Bitch:
week
Jerk:
mislabeled
Bitch:
was,
Jerk:
in
Bitch:
yeah,
Jerk:
some
Bitch:
so
Jerk:
of the
Bitch:
I
Jerk:
stuff.
Bitch:
think they filmed this first. I was like, I wouldn't like, I'm second guessing myself, but I know, you know,
Jerk:
Either way,
Bitch:
um,
Jerk:
either way, they filmed this
Bitch:
no,
Jerk:
before they filmed
Bitch:
it's
Jerk:
the
Bitch:
right
Jerk:
last
Bitch:
in
Jerk:
episode.
Bitch:
my notes. It is right in my notes. Okay. All right.
Jerk:
Ha!
Bitch:
th,:Jerk:
Until it's
Bitch:
until
Jerk:
not.
Bitch:
you want to like take it and set it on fire and
Jerk:
Yeah,
Bitch:
pretend it never existed.
Jerk:
correct. Correct. Yeah. I guess we'll circle back to that. But yeah, super enjoyable until it's super not enjoyable. So we pick up this episode where we left, the last episode we left off with Sam and Dean in the ambulance. They were all beat the fuck up by Leviathan Edgar. So
Bitch:
I wish
Jerk:
Dean.
Bitch:
that they'd had a really great sound for that. Like, you know, like coming back, like we started off in the hospital
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
and I wish we had like a soap opera, like, you know, like, you know, that kind of like
Jerk:
Like the
Bitch:
19,
Jerk:
waking up again.
Bitch:
like the:Jerk:
So
Bitch:
dramatic,
Jerk:
seeing the light,
Bitch:
like, yeah.
Jerk:
seeing the light
Bitch:
Or like
Jerk:
awake.
Bitch:
Pigs in Space. Like
Jerk:
Oh.
Bitch:
I wish there had been like a Pigs in Space intro as like, you know, when they were in like veterinary hospital
Jerk:
Uh-huh.
Bitch:
and that is zoomed in.
Jerk:
But instead we just get weird lights and basically Dean is in and out of consciousness a little bit because he is having his legs set right then. And that's all sounds very painful. That's what I'll say about that. But basically he, they are at Sioux falls general. He doesn't know where Sam is. He's getting his leg reset and they are giving him a lot of drugs. So he is in and out of it. Um, but he does not want to be at Sioux falls general because that's where the monsters are as we know.
Bitch:
This is terrifying, especially to like wake in and out of consciousness like in a drug phase and like, because the first like they show him he's like he's got this happy morphine face on he's like,
Jerk:
And then he's like, oh shit.
Bitch:
and he's like, ah, and then he's like, ah, yes.
Jerk:
Yeah, that's quite the roller coaster to be on.
Bitch:
Well, because he doesn't happen to get right because it's like Bobby, you're alive. And he's
Jerk:
And then,
Bitch:
like,
Jerk:
yes, well, we
Bitch:
I'm
Jerk:
get
Bitch:
a
Jerk:
Bobby's
Bitch:
morphine.
Jerk:
alive after he falls out of bed because his entire leg is in a cast. This is a full leg cast. I don't think they do those frequently.
Bitch:
No, I had one when I was a little bitty girl because I don't think it was just an ankle, but it was because my leg was like that big. Was that a little
Jerk:
Right.
Bitch:
bitty leg?
Jerk:
Little Billy Leg.
Bitch:
A little
Jerk:
Like
Bitch:
bitty
Jerk:
this is
Bitch:
leg?
Jerk:
like from hip to toe. Like full cast. It's a lot. But yes, Bobby's there. That's the most important thing. Bobby's alive. Thank
Bitch:
Hooray!
Jerk:
God.
Bitch:
Okay, Bobby not dead.
Jerk:
And he's like, look, there's definitely a monster. I definitely have a broken leg and I'm definitely real high on drugs. So he's, I was like, cool. We got to get you out of here. He goes to find Sam and to tell like those Dean some crutches and said, meet us. It's
Bitch:
Suck
Jerk:
very
Bitch:
it up,
Jerk:
not
Bitch:
motherfucker!
Jerk:
helpful. Not helpful. Um, so we cut to our Dr. Gaines, AKA Dr. Sexy, AKA Leviathan and the head nurse. Disgusting dessert. Ew.
Bitch:
Cool.
Jerk:
But he gets a phone call. Oh
Bitch:
Oh no, the Winchesters!
Jerk:
So I will say go ahead and give like here now, but we do get a lot of cut back and forth in this part, but even worse this episode to talk about is hard because we're gonna hit flashback central in a little while.
Bitch:
Yeah, but I think I think I got my pace going. I don't know. Maybe
Jerk:
We'll
Bitch:
we'll
Jerk:
see.
Bitch:
see. All right. And so we've got Bobby wheeling out Sam Dean on his crutches, Leviathan are chasing them.
Jerk:
Yeah, it's a lot of like sleuthy running around escapee scenes and just in time, Dean's able to get in the ambulance, Bobby's got Sam in the ambulance and they tear out.
Bitch:
Yeah, it's a very tense moment.
Jerk:
It
Bitch:
As I
Jerk:
is.
Bitch:
told Diana, I may have watched this episode on a speed, like one and a half speed, so this, this chase actually was faster and
Jerk:
Ah!
Bitch:
kind of funny. So as you're like Bobby,
Jerk:
It's
Bitch:
like
Jerk:
like
Bitch:
running
Jerk:
Benny
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down
Jerk:
Hill
Bitch:
the hall.
Jerk:
music.
Bitch:
I saw,
Jerk:
Is it in Benny Hill music or something in the background?
Bitch:
yes, I love how much we can change what is happening just by changing that background music. So we, they've made it and we get like a Leviathan splat. Let's start. Splat.
Jerk:
Yeah, splat. And we are now in Whitefish, Montana at a cabin. And we've got all our guys, we got Sam, Dean, and Bobby are all there. And they apparently have gotten really into a telenovela, which is adorable. But basically
Bitch:
that
Jerk:
it's...
Bitch:
Ricardo has committed suicideio.
Jerk:
So, they're just trying to get a feel of what's going on, what other hunters are reporting, and it's weird with a side of bloody. I thought it was funny.
Bitch:
That also reminded me of like a Bloody Mary. That was like what he said, that I was like, yes, that's how I like to order my brunch.
Jerk:
Weird with the sign
Bitch:
It
Jerk:
of
Bitch:
was
Jerk:
plenty.
Bitch:
a bloody.
Jerk:
But basically they figured out that leviathans are like shapeshifters, but they're into eating people and they can't be killed. Which sounds problematic. That seems not good, but Yeah, and Dr. Gaines has not shown back up to work. So we know now that good old our leviathan doctor has abandoned his post at the hospital. While this is going on we get a real good Sam zone out and it's really kind of like this, this is, this, this is kind of setting the tone for the Dean and Sam relationship in this episode, I would say. So we know that Sam had a pretty bad head injury, head trauma. Um, and now he's zoning in, he was already having some head issues arguably, and now he's zoning out and Dean is just like convinced that Sam is about to fucking crack, like he
Bitch:
and
Jerk:
is
Bitch:
being
Jerk:
about to fall
Bitch:
very
Jerk:
apart.
Bitch:
mean about it still,
Jerk:
He's not
Bitch:
right?
Jerk:
being very
Bitch:
Like,
Jerk:
nice and he's
Bitch:
I'm just
Jerk:
not trusting,
Bitch:
like...
Jerk:
he's not trusting Sam at all about how he feels.
Bitch:
But I also feel like Sam is being like really honest. Like he's like, yeah, seeing it, seeing Satan. Yeah, Lucie. Yeah,
Jerk:
Yeah, but I know it's not real, so it's okay. Yeah, yeah.
Bitch:
I mean, he's not lying about it, which I feel was fine. You know, and I think Dean needs to shut the fuck up.
Jerk:
Yeah, but we find out this Calvin they're staying at was Rufus's place. But there's he's obviously not stayed there in years. I mean, Rufus is dead, but had been there in years. All this left was sea rations and dust. But we also find an important piece of information about Bobby, whose place was burned down, that, yes, all many of his books might have been one of a kind. But of course, fucking paranoid Bobby had copies stashed everywhere.
Bitch:
Bobby, paranoid bastard, has copies of all of his one of a kind books,
Jerk:
Duh.
Bitch:
which is amazing.
Jerk:
So Dean sends Sam to get him pie so that he can gossip with Bobby about how he's over analyzing Sam.
Bitch:
this but also because you want to buy.
Jerk:
Well, I mean, sure, you want to pie too, you know, but basically Bobby kind of calls him out, though. I appreciate that. He's like, look, why don't we just take this day to day? He says he's fine. He's fine. Or he's admitting what's going on. Sitting in here and like freaking out, not doing anybody any good. And Dean does not listen. advice. So, and while Sam's at the store, he also sees a newspaper article about the ice pit killer. So he gets a copy of the newspaper and uses a Lemme Kill My Sturk credit card to pay for it.
Bitch:
He sure does. All right. So he uses that card, which raises an alert at a call center, a credit card cards card center, right? They're monitoring fraud. And
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
this is the thing. The alert comes up on Limmy's. So this is why I told you to pay attention. to what year this was in. This
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
was:Jerk:
What
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his
Jerk:
if he,
Bitch:
own credit
Jerk:
what
Bitch:
card.
Jerk:
if he wanted to kick it in whitefish? I've heard it's lovely.
Bitch:
I've heard this lovely and I remember like, what
Jerk:
There
Bitch:
are
Jerk:
was
Bitch:
my
Jerk:
just a big
Bitch:
fright...
Jerk:
music festival there, like last weekend.
Bitch:
I did not know that. But one of my friends, like one of his stories about the time that he met Lemmy, he was in line at a convenience store and like Lemmy was buying a loaf of bread. And I think he made some comment about like, sometimes she's gotta buy a loaf of bread, like
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
something that Lemmy would say, right?
Jerk:
Right.
Bitch:
And so also like other Lemmy stories real quick, he also once dropped his hotel key into my friend's drink and she did not go to his room. But I think that's just a cool story to have.
Jerk:
story either
Bitch:
she
Jerk:
way.
Bitch:
turned down Limey. But anyways, but I'm like, so what if Limey like, it's just, did they kill Limey? Like, how do they know? Like, but also I appreciate that they have learned enough of their patterns to have
Jerk:
the alerts.
Bitch:
the, yeah, the alerts for all of their aliases.
Jerk:
I'm impressed. But yeah, I was.
Bitch:
That means those shows like they are catching on to technology like well, like the beginning I was like, oh, like they've already figured out cell phones. Right. So now like, but now clearly they know how credit card fraud works. It's a lot for a little thing, but yeah.
Jerk:
Yes, so we get our super excited call center employee who is definitely Leviathan calling other looked calling Edgar to go track him down because they know the Winchesters. So Sam shows back up and instead of pie he gives Dean cake. I'm just, I'm not either. Now, if I'm in the mood for one and I get the other, I'd be slightly disappointed, but I'm not mad because pie and
Bitch:
He
Jerk:
cake
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still
Jerk:
are both
Bitch:
brought
Jerk:
delicious.
Bitch:
you cake. Like if he did not bring you dessert, that would be like, but sometimes
Jerk:
Happy Road!
Bitch:
they just don't have pie, Dean. They don't have pie and you got cake and you don't even eat that whole piece of cake. Fuck you, I would have ate that in like a second.
Jerk:
Fuck yeah, sounds good. White cake with rice cake makes me so happy. Anyways, so we find at night now, Dean's sleeping and Sam's gonna read this newspaper article about the ice pick killing, these
Bitch:
So he's just like sitting for this news, like waiting for
Jerk:
waiting.
Bitch:
Dean to go to bed to like read a newspaper.
Jerk:
Yeah, he like hid the newspaper, it was crazy. So
Bitch:
It's real dumb.
Jerk:
ck and it's Lincoln, Nebraska:Bitch:
Yeah, and so he does, they give you some, some facts about Kitsune. They say, you know, they look human until they sprout out claws and they stab you behind your ear to get your brain. And also he does say, you know, like maybe if uncle Bobby sent a book in English and like, so we know like they bring that like Bobby is putting there. Like,
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
I just think there's a really, like, this
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Fun
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is
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flashback.
Bitch:
part of the reason that this episode isn't bad. because
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
I enjoy like this nostalgia with Sam is actually pretty.
Jerk:
It is. And it leads to Sam's, we're calling this leads to Sam packing a bag and leaving Dean a note and sneaking out.
Bitch:
And that's when they show the cake and it's not finished.
Jerk:
It's only half-eaten
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And it makes
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cake and
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me
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it's just
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mad.
Jerk:
sitting out. It's just sitting out. He didn't even put the cover back on it. It had a cover.
Bitch:
What makes
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Cake
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Liz
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waste.
Bitch:
mad? Don't waste the cake!
Jerk:
Don't waste the cake. So now we cut to a random graffitied alley where a man is selling a bag of white powder to a woman and has raised the price and she does not have enough money. And he then tries to offer a trade for her and then they're sirens and they both run away except he gets tackled and he did.
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and still doesn't have any drugs.
Jerk:
She still doesn't have
Bitch:
Nobody
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any drugs.
Bitch:
follows her story. What happens to her, the woman who was...
Jerk:
I don't know.
Bitch:
Oh man, so it's kind of like, it looks like he trips and falls and dies, right? Like it's not
Jerk:
Kind
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really
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of.
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like,
Jerk:
It's not an obvious. It's
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you
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something
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can't
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like
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tell.
Jerk:
it's a weird fall and obviously he did.
Bitch:
And he's just like...
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So when Dean wakes up though he sees a note from Sam. Says, uh, back in a few days I'm fine, Sam. Which I'm just gonna say I don't care how many times he tells Dean that
Bitch:
I'm
Jerk:
he's
Bitch:
sorry.
Jerk:
fine. Writing that he's fine is not helpful. I'm fine. I'm fine. Fine.
Bitch:
I'm fine. I just like, especially this like, giant like
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Block
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moose
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letter.
Bitch:
hands writing, like, I am fine. Do not worry. Sam okay.
Jerk:
So Dean is convinced he's been making a reference to, he's waiting for the other shoe to drop. So he calls Bobby just his other shoe because he thinks he's so clever and he's so mad and about
Bitch:
And
Jerk:
all
Bitch:
Bobby
Jerk:
this.
Bitch:
is like, what are you talking about? Cause Bobby is like, I don't remember you making this analogy two days
Jerk:
No.
Bitch:
ago, but I also think it's adorable and it's just a really funny line delivery. And he is talking about, uh, then he was like, what if he is a road tripping with Lucifer,
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
which also I want to watch that TV show. I would
Jerk:
And
Bitch:
definitely watch that reality show. That
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that
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sounds
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one
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way better than swipe, right? Road tripping
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swiping
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with
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America.
Bitch:
Lucifer. Whatever.
Jerk:
So, but Sam has turned off his cell phone and his GPS and took baby. Uh-oh. But Bobby's like, okay, we've got shit to do. Let's let him chill for it. Let's you want you chill for a few days. And then once you get your cast off, we'll go find him. Okay. So, of course, Dean's going to cut his cast off because he's a dummy.
Bitch:
Yeah, and there's just a part of me as I know what happens to your limbs inside a cast. When also cats, cats like they smell bad, they're
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
s, like especially those like:Jerk:
The
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cast.
Jerk:
old ones.
Bitch:
This is not good and you can't just like walk on your leg. Your leg is a little shriveled like.
Jerk:
Yeah, it's all sad, even if it's just been a few,
Bitch:
It's
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it
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like
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has
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walking
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been a while.
Bitch:
on a pickle. It's like someone put a pickle in your head and you have to walk on it. Like...
Jerk:
That's an analogy. Wow.
Bitch:
I may also be hungry and thinking about pickles.
Jerk:
So we've got Sam's at the police at a police office, police station asking about the ice pick killer. And it's like kind of hinting that he's seen a similar case with the same memo. And this cop is like not really bummed that this drug dealer got killed, but it is very confused how Sam knows details about the death. But
Bitch:
That's something that we kept because the killer's not supposed to know that. We
Jerk:
Mm-mm.
Bitch:
kept that out of the papers. Like you're the killer, Sam.
Jerk:
Right. But this cop's also not super suspicious. So Sam's
Bitch:
I'm sorry.
Jerk:
able to go talk to the to the coroner pretty easily. But he's also getting a whole lot of missed calls from Lars Ulrich, which is not Lars Ulrich, but it's actually Dean calling him. And Dean's able to get out finally, and he's driving a wood paneled Wagoneer. Lucky him.
Bitch:
Mine says Dean Hathaway.
Jerk:
Of course. But the store clerk is able to identify that Sam was there. And Dean finds yesterday's paper and finds the story. So now he's got a good hint of
Bitch:
Son
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what's
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of a bitch!
Jerk:
happening. And back at the coroner's office, Sam in the corner confirmed a piece of the midbrain, specifically the pituitary gland being missing.
Bitch:
Also, this coroner is very excited that like, hey, we don't normally get murders here. We also never like never get a serial. He's very excited to have
Jerk:
So
Bitch:
a serial
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excited.
Bitch:
killer.
Jerk:
So excited. I don't... I mean, I guess I get it, but it also seems like a really dark thing to be excited about.
Bitch:
Well, if you're a coroner,
Jerk:
I guess keeps you
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I
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busy.
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mean,
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Job
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it's
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security?
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like, I mean, it's
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Oh
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kind
Jerk:
no.
Bitch:
of the same thing. Like if like when I come up, like if there is a really big, like criminal group that I'm going after,
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
it is more fun to do that than like,
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Little
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you know,
Jerk:
hokey stuff.
Bitch:
like, you know, yeah, like
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I
Bitch:
low
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gotcha.
Bitch:
level. So I get it. It's like, oh, we get massive things, but also like you're a little weird man, but also you're a coroner. So I guess you're a little weird man.
Jerk:
get with Sam, our back to the:Bitch:
I think so. And also it's just, you know, seventies libraries, like, or eighties libraries, I guess, and Sam eighties libraries.
Jerk:
98 it said come on
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Oh, sorry, no, sorry. Oh, no
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it's not
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way.
Jerk:
that nostalgic but it is kind of
Bitch:
It feels nostalgic, though.
Jerk:
I think
Bitch:
I mean, because that would be the age that I would have been those are the libraries that I was in doing my like research, right? Like
Jerk:
Well,
Bitch:
not
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we
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I wasn't
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were
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researching Kitsune
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through the,
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but
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no, and through the early:Bitch:
Yeah,
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in
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also
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Bozeman.
Bitch:
one thing too, I want to say like, as we start going into this really like the color of the flashback of
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
this, I really appreciate that. And I'm a bad podcast person because I didn't read the back of my supernatural book this week again, because sorry, shit's busy right now. But I'm sure there Jensen had a say in this but I just think it's a really great choice. I like that it's very like 70s like oversaturated like with a bit of sepia in it
Jerk:
It's yeah,
Bitch:
like.
Jerk:
it's got a little sepia, but it's not like all sepia because that'd be really hard to watch
Bitch:
Yeah, no, I just, I think the flashbacks are really pretty.
Jerk:
Yeah, I agree. And so we've got him doing his murder wall in modern motel in Bozeman. And we've also got a flashback to him doing Xs on a map back then. So we kind of get a really interesting parallel of then and now of him drawing these maps
Bitch:
It's
Jerk:
and marking
Bitch:
it's kind
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locations.
Bitch:
of like
Jerk:
It's really cool. Yeah.
Bitch:
it's adorable. Yeah. Look at all your little red murder bats. I love you.
Jerk:
And we see also, I like him ordering triple red-eye coffee from the coffee stand outside the library as a child.
Bitch:
I also love that the guy at the coffee stand is not blinking at this young child ordering all this espresso.
Jerk:
a lot of espresso, a lot of espresso. So, but young Sam is quite distracted.
Bitch:
This clearly did not distort his growth.
Jerk:
No, young Sam is distracted though by a blonde girl
Bitch:
Oh,
Jerk:
walking
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oh,
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in.
Bitch:
and one of the things that he's figured out before we get to his eye fucking or his eyes I call it his first Sam's first boner
Jerk:
Aww.
Bitch:
is That young Sam and his war on his murder map has figured out that all the vicks are off Owen parks on the highway, which does sound very serial killer like 70s serial killer
Jerk:
It does.
Bitch:
like
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
parks off the highway Yeah
Jerk:
Attracts. Yeah. And now he's going to go drink way too much caffeine and look at the chick.
Bitch:
And I fuck his first love. Oh. But she's into him.
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
She
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But
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is.
Jerk:
he's also now going out to stake out in modern time. He's also going to stake out parks because he wants to see where else they're going to strike next.
Bitch:
Yeah.
Jerk:
But
Bitch:
So I stopped saying like we just talked about like, so here we go. Like, this is where we start in the really
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The back
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like
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and forth,
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the
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it's
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back
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a lot.
Bitch:
and forth.
Jerk:
It's
Bitch:
Okay.
Jerk:
a lot.
Bitch:
So what, how do you refer to, I call them current Sam and young Sam.
Jerk:
Oh, I just said flashback.
Bitch:
Okay.
Jerk:
Flashback, I just wrote that a bunch. Flashback. It's not flashback. It's looking current. So flashback Sam is talking loudly on the phone about how you have to stab it in the heart in the library.
Bitch:
You're seven to the heart!
Jerk:
He says it a lot and he gets shushed by the library. I'm surprised
Bitch:
That's
Jerk:
he
Bitch:
library.
Jerk:
was allowed to talk on the phone that loud, that up until that point anyways, honestly.
Bitch:
and that's like your first cell phone, right? Like that
Jerk:
Oh yeah.
Bitch:
probably wasn't getting, like you had to talk loud. They probably
Jerk:
It's true.
Bitch:
couldn't hear you.
Jerk:
That's fair.
Bitch:
And that librarian hates him.
Jerk:
Oh yes, she does. But he is very upset and he wants to, but he also wants Dean to tell him how to talk to girls. Oh,
Bitch:
Oh.
Jerk:
oh. So, she hits this scene. I just wanna hear you, how you talk about this when he approaches her.
Bitch:
Oh, Young Sam says hi and she tells him to go away. She can't talk to boys and he leaves.
Jerk:
No, go away immediately. I was like, damn brutal
Bitch:
Yeah, yeah, it is like it was it was it was a hardcore immediate shutdown.
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
But also but she came back so fast because originally was just like the no. But then she is like,
Jerk:
Like,
Bitch:
but wait is because
Jerk:
here's why it's not you. It's
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I
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just,
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can't
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I'm
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talk
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not
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to
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a Lactone
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boys.
Jerk:
Poise. Yeah. Which helps.
Bitch:
And so it was like, I'm interested, right? She's like, please don't leave me like, like this. But then she goes, what the fuck are these guys that are who the fuck are these kids?
Jerk:
These are some random bullies follow her out
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They're
Jerk:
and
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raving bullies! Those bullies
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those
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were gonna
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rapey
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rape
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bullies.
Bitch:
this girl!
Jerk:
I don't know. It was really uncomfortable. I'm like, what is happening? These are young children in the middle, like right by the library. This is very
Bitch:
What the
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open.
Bitch:
fuck is happening?!
Jerk:
It was very distressing.
Bitch:
And what town is this? Nebraska?!
Jerk:
Montana, we're still in Montana. They're in Bozeman. Oh no, wait, this is Nebraska. You're right. I'm sorry.
Bitch:
Great.
Jerk:
This is, you were right. I was wrong. Sorry. The new,
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But so
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the new
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either
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case
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way Yeah,
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is in Montana. The old
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this
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case
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was in Lincoln, Nebraska,
Jerk:
is Nebraska.
Bitch:
but either way it's still fucking Nebraska. Like it's not like I don't know some Death slum or something like why are you these teenage boys trying to rape this girl in broad daylight? What the
Jerk:
Death
Bitch:
fuck Nebraska?
Jerk:
a death slum a death slum. Okay, but yeah, I know it was fucked up and these kids are like what like 13 or something and it's supposed to be like the approximate age range here. I don't
Bitch:
Yes!
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know. Yeah
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What is happening? This
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Very
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is not
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upsetting
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a safe town.
Jerk:
Lincoln, Nebraska
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You need to
Jerk:
is
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leave.
Jerk:
not safe
Bitch:
You leave right now.
Jerk:
So Sam walks up and little scrawny Sam Manages to beat the fuck out of these two boys as he should
Bitch:
Cha!
Jerk:
So, and they...
Bitch:
And she thinks this is sexy because she was the damsel that was rescued. But also, I don't care. Watching guys get gas is still hot.
Jerk:
Agreed.
Bitch:
All right.
Jerk:
In current, we see a woman in the woods, a blonde woman, Sam's following her, and she's going to watching this drunk guy that cannot open his car door. And it is really like I don't understand the scene either. Like, what is
Bitch:
Why
Jerk:
happening?
Bitch:
is he off this park and how did she know
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Where
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that
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did
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this
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he
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drunk
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get drunk?
Bitch:
guy was like, he's just gonna be in the wood, strong clank, and she's supposedly killing bad guys?
Jerk:
I
Bitch:
So, was...
Jerk:
don't
Bitch:
what? I don't get this
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know.
Bitch:
one.
Jerk:
Very confusing, but Sam confronts this woman and we realize she's wearing the same necklace that Amy was, this young, the young girl from Lincoln. Oh, shoot. So this is her grown up. And he's about to stab her. And they, you know, they have a little banter back and forth, but he's basically like, nope, there's too many parallels from before. And she's trying
Bitch:
Well,
Jerk:
to
Bitch:
she
Jerk:
deny.
Bitch:
recognizes him too. And
Jerk:
Okay, I know
Bitch:
so
Jerk:
they know each other she's
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they
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like,
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know
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oh
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she's
Jerk:
shit
Bitch:
just like, oh shit, like, which would she, and well, he does say hi, Amy. And like, I don't know, I would probably be like, who? What?
Jerk:
I don't know what you're
Bitch:
I
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talking
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guess,
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about, that's
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well,
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not my
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she
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name.
Bitch:
did kill her. Yeah, eventually, yeah, she would remember him, I think.
Jerk:
Yeah, I feel like she would too. That was pretty
Bitch:
Yeah.
Jerk:
intense. But they're just kind of they kind of banter back and forth like, Oh, you got tall. And he's like, I know what you're doing. You're a fucking murderer. And she's like, no, I've got a job, a house, two cats and a normal life. I don't know what you're talking about. You're wrong.
Bitch:
Cats making normal. Like I got two cats.
Jerk:
I have
Bitch:
You can't hate me, I got two cats.
Jerk:
two cats. I am a kind person. I
Bitch:
I'm
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have
Bitch:
a
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two
Bitch:
kind
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cats.
Bitch:
person, I've got cats!
Jerk:
So we go back to Flashback and they are at Amy's place and she asks him about playing doctor. I was like, what? And that is not what happened. She was just, he had, he was getting a black eye and so
Bitch:
But she
Jerk:
she was
Bitch:
was flirting,
Jerk:
wiping that off.
Bitch:
for sure.
Jerk:
But she was. I was like, okay, ma'am. And she wants to know how Sam was able to beat those guys up, which is valid because he was much smaller. And all he came up with is I watched a lot of Bruce Lee movies.
Bitch:
Sure, okay.
Jerk:
Sure dude.
Bitch:
But then she goes, she's just like, you thirsty? And she's like, would you like a soda? And then she gets her soda out of her organ fridge
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
and she just like has to push her pituitary glands out. Wait.
Jerk:
Just stay away. Jar's a gland.
Bitch:
But frankly, like the fridge also looks cleaner than the fridge in my house that I just
Jerk:
Well,
Bitch:
moved
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yeah,
Bitch:
to. It's
Jerk:
so,
Bitch:
a nice clean fridge.
Jerk:
there it is.
Bitch:
I appreciate
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And.
Bitch:
also appreciate that the fact that the pituitary glands are like they're in a nice little jar.
Jerk:
Contained.
Bitch:
Like they're not like
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They're not
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this
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just
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is
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like
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how they're
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laying
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stored.
Jerk:
around.
Bitch:
Yeah.
Jerk:
I just strewn about.
Bitch:
I feel like she watched whatever Recon thing is for Fridge Organization.
Jerk:
I guess they also thought that they live on they don't need much else, right? I
Bitch:
There
Jerk:
don't know.
Bitch:
was other things in the fridge though, right?
Jerk:
Yeah,
Bitch:
There was like, you
Jerk:
a couple
Bitch:
know, there
Jerk:
things,
Bitch:
was
Jerk:
but
Bitch:
fridge
Jerk:
not a lot.
Bitch:
and soda. Yeah.
Jerk:
So, but he puts the soda on his face to help with the swelling because it's cold.
Bitch:
Oh, good catch. Because we see that. Yeah, I like that symmetry. Yeah.
Jerk:
Mm-hmm. And we've got the Goo Dolls two days in February playing in the background. And I only mention it because Sam mentions it.
Bitch:
Yeah. And they kind of goes into the Sam Winchester has shitty taste in music. Um,
Jerk:
Hmm.
Bitch:
, well, he's in:Jerk:
So 79,
Bitch:
So
Jerk:
I thought, yeah.
Bitch:
that's valid. Especially at that time when he didn't have like Spotify, you were like stuck with the radio. I would have said the exact same
Jerk:
Oh,
Bitch:
thing.
Jerk:
yeah, that's a lot. And then they commiserate about basically how both of their parents drag them all over the place and pull them all over. And they travel all the time. Mom follows the wind. And Dad has to work, travels for work and blah, blah. They've both seen the biggest ball of twine. Sam's seen it twice and she's seen it three times. And they share this soda. And then they talk, he talks about being a new kid and a freak. But then. Amy's response is that, you are a freak, but so were Hendrix, Picasso, and me, the coolest people.
Bitch:
All the coolest people are freaks. Picasso, no, take that one off. Sorry, sorry, take that one off, take that one off. All right, so the coolest people, like we still, Hendrix is still cool. All right, so we got Hendrix, all the coolest people are freaks, then make out.
Jerk:
Make out, make out, make out. So cute.
Bitch:
And we get teenage kids making out, which is adorable. But
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
unfortunately,
Jerk:
Go back to
Bitch:
we
Jerk:
modern times.
Bitch:
go back to modern times.
Jerk:
And Amy is telling Sam that she had to spike those three guys this week, which is what she calls killing these guys, but she can't explain why. And she just really wants Sam to trust her. And I just feel like this is an interesting two pieces. Number one, it's kind of an interesting parallel to Sam insisting to Dean that he just needs to trust him that he's okay, except people aren't dying. So. That's one little time, but just
Bitch:
Fair,
Jerk:
asking
Bitch:
fair.
Jerk:
someone to trust you, though, that asking someone to trust you over and over again and that person not being able to trust you. Thought that was an interesting parallel. And then also she just won't tell him why, but he does hesitate and listens.
Bitch:
Yeah, because before like he's like, you know, we get into this, you're not a bad person or whatever. So, but she won't tell him why she shubs him. But also, I mean, I don't blame you. Like you haven't seen this dude in how many years, like now he's here. He's got a knife. You're like, I don't know if I can trust you. I'm just going to shove you.
Jerk:
But he gets some stuff out of her pocket and her eyes flash a real cool color after she clocks him and then she disappears, runs away. And now Dean is tracking Sam pretty effectively. Now he's at the corner and he's pretty, you know, so good job. He's made it there next. And he sees the dead drug dealer asks what Sam asked about, which come down
Bitch:
No,
Jerk:
to.
Bitch:
no,
Jerk:
Well.
Bitch:
first he asked the quarter if the guy did anything to the corpse, which is an interesting turn of phrase, sir.
Jerk:
That's probably not the right way to phrase that.
Bitch:
But also the coroner looks excited and freaked out, like he was like freaked out, but kind of like, is this a friend?
Jerk:
Maybe, maybe. But yeah, basically they've got, they identify the pituitary gland, which confirms Dean's suspicion that this is tied back to that previous case. And so Dean kind of knows what they're after and decides to call Bobby and because he knows they're chasing a kitsune and it is rare and they hunted one back in 98 and Bobby doesn't even remember it because it did not make the highlight reel.
Bitch:
And it's bullshit. And I'm gonna tell you why. It's time for lore. Alright, so we're going to talk about Kitsune. And so if you could not tell that is a Japanese word, I apologize in advance for any terrible Japanese pronunciations I make during the next few minutes. So Kitsune translates from Japanese to English as Fox. And these are probably one of the better known portions of mythology of Japan. Uh, like they have made the world talk about all the ways they have become in part of pop culture. So the fact that Bobby was like, I don't know what this is, is fucking bullshit. Bobby would have known what this was. And part of the reason is they just take little bits and pieces. This is not a Fox. Amy's not a Fox. She's a Foxy lady, but she's not Fox. All right. So. So obviously, because they're foxes. The first thing that I want to talk about, though, is not the foxy part. I want to talk about a goddess slash god, and that's Inari. And that was a Shinto deity. And they were closely linked to rice, agriculture, and fertility, prosperity, and industry. Their origins go way, way back. And they've kind of like, sometimes they were goddess, sometimes they were god, just kind of changed around. but the kitsune are often regarded as their messengers or her servants or his servants, their servants. And so they're believed to be spiritual beings that are closely connected to them. And so therefore they protect their shrine. And so their shrines are known as inari jinja. Oh shit, I looked at the pronunciation, I had it earlier. And also, by the way, the Google translate version for Japanese just sounds like a girl who's about to start giggling. And it made me feel like... I was being very inappropriate every time I was like, echoing what she said. I was like, this is, get a different voice dudes. All right, so they, so if you go to any of their shrines in Japan, they're known by the red torii gates. You know, the ones that are like,
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
they're the real, you know, pretty identifiable. So they're just fox statues. And that's what people, the kitsune statues are left at the shrines as token. of respect or asking for wishes or prayers things like that but they're cute as fuck because they're little foxes
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
little foxes
Jerk:
Yep.
Bitch:
and they usually have stuff in their mouth and like and the things like they're red and they're just they're just pulled on to the little lantern or little pearl and it's just they're fucking cute.
Jerk:
See ya.
Bitch:
So this is why I was very excited about this lore like all the pictures of things like all the lore pictures were just great this time they're just they're all super cute. Fun fact also, in addition to leaving the statues at Inari shrines, they also leave Inari sushi, which is sweet fried tofu stuffed with rice, because it is thought that fried tofu is a fox's favorite food and that the corners of the tofu resemble fox ears. Now, I love fried tofu, but I don't really like I'm not sure if I see that would be like a fox thing. Like, I mean, not like I hang out with a lot of foxes, but...
Jerk:
I think they'd be pissed if you tried to feed them that.
Bitch:
I was, I don't know, like, I don't know, fried tofu's fucking delicious, but anyways. All right, and so, but legends about them have been around like thousands of years, right? And so because of that, there are things that I'm gonna talk about that apply to some folklore traditions and not to others, but that's just the nature of you have lore that goes around a bunch of places and gets taken by a lot of people because it's very popular, so you'll have a bunch of different things. So I want to talk about the types of Katsunifers and there's a lot of them, so we may not get to all of them because we have to go to sleep at some point. So Zinko, these first two are kind of the main ones. It kind of depends on who you ask, but kind of if you're going to categorize them, I would think of them as good and mischievous, right? So the good foxes, those are usually known as the Zinko and they're benevolent, they're celestial. So they're like the spiritual Inuska foxes and they're messengers and they're the protectors of the shrines. And so they're usually depicted as just being very, very helpful. And the Yako, they're the field foxes, are sometimes called Nokatsune, and they're mischievous or malicious. So they're not necessarily like bad, but they're very self-serving. And so that can like, you know, you're very selfish, you know, like sometimes. It doesn't work out great for everybody. And these are known for being tricky, like tricksters and other things like that. And, oh my God, I almost forgot to say the most important thing about Katsuni. And this is me, hopefully come on to Google docs, Google docs. You've got to, you've got to save me because we've talked about Katsuni before.
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
And we talked about them in season two episodes, something, and oh no. Okay, come on, come on Google. I'm trying to get there really fast because I, there it is, okay, there, okay, I'm opening it. And I meant
Jerk:
Thank
Bitch:
to
Jerk:
you.
Bitch:
ask you if, can you find it? I had the best introduction for this and I was gonna say, do you remember the last time that I talked about them?
Jerk:
I
Bitch:
We
Jerk:
do
Bitch:
don't.
Jerk:
remember you talked about them, but I don't remember the specifics of
Bitch:
I,
Jerk:
the when. That's
Bitch:
yeah.
Jerk:
what I mean.
Bitch:
So we talked about them in episode 15, which was the first time we met the trickster and that was Tall Tales.
Jerk:
Oh
Bitch:
So
Jerk:
yeah,
Bitch:
that was the last time we talked about
Jerk:
aww
Bitch:
them.
Jerk:
trickster.
Bitch:
I know I love them. So, but I talked about them because this was the lines I said, which I just wanted to bring back because they were amazing. So the Kitsune, a Japanese fox trickster, often in the form of young women who lead men to sexy time, and then they drain them of their vitality. upon having their deceptions discovered and the true form revealed, they often break wind as they make their escape." So that just, if you don't like remember this, it's like
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
a and then and running away. So this is why it's very glad to get to get back to get back to them.
Jerk:
Yes.
Bitch:
So, all right. So the chievious, right? Tricksters is the young
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
one farting and run away. But the yaku tend to be more their field foxes, right? So they're not celestial, I think is the point, right? The other
Jerk:
Okay.
Bitch:
one's like, we're pretty, like,
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
heavenly things. They're like, I'm gonna fart and run away. And so they can retain their physical form when they shape-shift, but they're usually just doing that to kind of, like, they're not really doing it for power, they just do it because they think it's funny.
Jerk:
Okay.
Bitch:
So I have a lot of respect for that, you know? There's another, oh also if you see, we'll talk about masks in a minute, but if there's a lot of consuming masks and if you ever see a fox mask with the with a leaf in the middle of the forehead, that is a Yakko.
Jerk:
Mm-hmm. Oh. So they're identified, OK.
Bitch:
Yep. The third type of Kitsune I want to talk about are the Miyobus. And these are also benevolent. They are usually the wives or female attendant of the gods, gosh, goddess and Nari. And so they're usually depicted as beautiful, intelligent women. And as Fox spirits, they have white fur and full fluffy tails. and they are symbols of good luck and they're often
Jerk:
Oh.
Bitch:
found in shrines and sacred places. They are often left saki, the inari sushi, and fried tofu as well. And yobo actually means enlightened women. So one of the things I think is really interesting about this is really kind of thinking about the women's place in Japanese culture and like how that comes and goes like, and we'll see this when we get kind of get to the legends more. about when it's a woman just being trickster and cunning and when as a woman being a devious evil person, right and I think that kind of Goes into saying and how women are viewed in society, right? Like sometimes like I'm an evil trickster Satan, you know, but I'm you know, or I'm just like I'm really smart bitch And I'm getting what's coming, you know
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
anyway, so Uh, there are probably, uh, one of the, yeah, there's like seven more types of Katsune and I'm just going to base pass them. The ones I think are really great. They're all great. Not, not just going to be, uh, so the Kazi Katsune are born with an affinity to wind chakras and they're incredibly fast and they can like have powerful wind based stuff, uh, there is, let's
Jerk:
Do
Bitch:
see.
Jerk:
they
Bitch:
I think
Jerk:
break wind?
Bitch:
that's why I wanted to say that. Right. Uh, the Kukan. they have mastery over the element of space, which means they can manipulate space to create illusions and teleport themselves and others. And they can also trap enemies and spatial bubbles. And a lot of this stuff, you're starting to sound very cartoony and like anime stuff. And that's why because anime and manga like have taken a lot of shit because of this and made them like, so the legend, like the Lord, like this old
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
like thousands of your legends become a modern thing. And the modern thing is influencing the old thing. And I always
Jerk:
And now it's the culture.
Bitch:
Yeah,
Jerk:
It's
Bitch:
it was
Jerk:
crazy.
Bitch:
really cool. So there's a bunch of different kinds of them. I highly recommend y'all look them up. But so pretty much I would think the main thing is think about you got some that are benevolent, you've got some that are mischievous, none of them are really evil. Like even like we get to the stories where they are evil, they're not really that bad.
Jerk:
Right.
Bitch:
They're just kind of like, yeah, you know, they're selfish.
Jerk:
Okay,
Bitch:
Yeah.
Jerk:
that makes
Bitch:
So
Jerk:
sense.
Bitch:
let's talk tales. Okay, because
Jerk:
Hmm
Bitch:
we all know I want a tail. And so tails represent the power of a Katsune and the more tails one has, the more powerful it is. So.
Jerk:
Is that like Tales in Sonic? He had three tails in the news.
Bitch:
I'm pretty sure that's one of the reasons that came for that. I actually didn't see Sonic reference in here because he's a hedgehog, but
Jerk:
Well, no,
Bitch:
I
Jerk:
but
Bitch:
bet.
Jerk:
Tails was his sidekick.
Bitch:
Yeah. Oh, so the tails is lazy as a fox and he had three things. Yeah. I am. Yes. Then yes, I'm actually convinced that has some, that's this. So typically though, like the reason they say, like you get one, like the more tails you have, the more powerful they are, but theoretically
Jerk:
Hehehehe
Bitch:
you're supposed to get them like one every hundred years, you get a new tail. but the most you can have is nine. So like, if you see like, and that is called a kiyobi no katsune, which literally means nine tails. And so there, I will say, again, on the mask thing, when I was looking at katsune masks on Amazon, there was one picture of a dude in a mask
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
and he didn't have any clothes on besides the mask. Like they didn't show him naked, but it stopped like at his chest level and there was nothing above the chest. which I was like, that man has a tail, but it's a butt plug. And that is all I can think of right now when I'm thinking about the tails. It's just like, oh, you got a knot in there, but they're really pretty. So there's a lot of, like, you see depictions of these in older Japanese art, like things that have been selling, like the, this is something that has been a part of fine art and, you know, modern
Jerk:
Yeah, like cartoon
Bitch:
lowbrow
Jerk:
and
Bitch:
art. I don't know if you call cartoons
Jerk:
yeah, I
Bitch:
lowbrow,
Jerk:
love them.
Bitch:
but.
Jerk:
Oh no.
Bitch:
But I just I think that's very interesting, right? That you've got this spiel of from the something that appeals to the masses to like the finest art of that selling at Sotheby's. Like and so there's a piece of art that sold at Sotheby's of one of the legends that we'll talk about where you can see all the tales on it's really cool. All right. So blah, blah. OK, so they fear their enemies. The dog. So their enemies are dogs. So we love dogs, but foxes don't love dogs.
Jerk:
weird but
Bitch:
So,
Jerk:
foxes
Bitch:
okay.
Jerk:
are kind of dogs though right?
Bitch:
But they're kind of dogs, but they're not, right? So like dogs get really upset when they're around legs. If you have a dog and like a person comes in or something comes in, they're like, ah,
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
be careful that may be a Kitsune. They also don't like men of faith because apparently like some of them have the power to amass them. I think that's just the meaner ones. I don't, I don't like that. So also if you want to find out is somebody shape shifting into a Kitsune, you can tell by their mirror. you can see their real reflection in a mirror or you can get them drunk.
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
So if you get them drunk, they will often reveal their new thing. So speaking of that, so getting my notes say speaking of powers as I was, oh, I forgot an important thing. So when rain starts falling on a sunny day, it means that a marriage between a kitsune and a human have taken place. And it's usually a good omen. And the children born from this union would have a human appearance with special powers inherited from their mom. That's what I said, so they get the powers there. Which in Southern terms is called the devil is beating his wife. So interesting that in Japan, that's a sign of good fate. Like that's a good omen if it's raining all the sun's out. I never minded it. I always think it's cool.
Jerk:
honey.
Bitch:
But usually I'm just like, can I get something darker? Can you please just bring me some clouds?
Jerk:
No,
Bitch:
So.
Jerk:
I like the sunshine.
Bitch:
Uh, whatever. Daystar. All right. So one of their most well-known powers is that of possession. So well-known that it has its name and that is Kitsune Natsuki. I'm sorry. I'm very sorry, Japan. So, but that means it literally translates to possession by a fox spirit. And very interestingly enough, like this is for the long time, but we kind of talked about this with the Middle East and the possession of the gen. This is something that in Japan and other Asian countries around here, that mental illness was often a lot
Jerk:
Mmm,
Bitch:
of times
Jerk:
yeah.
Bitch:
blamed on Fox possession.
Jerk:
Okay.
Bitch:
And it's something that is so inherent in the culture that, you know, even up to like modern day, like, you know, the, I can't wait to not put their name in here. So the cult in Japan that ended up doing all the bombings. in the, I want to say the 90s, it was that cult of the people in the university to have this possession by foxes, right? That was one
Jerk:
Interesting.
Bitch:
of the things that's coming up. So it was still being blamed for stuff even in modern times, right? And so, but it was often really believed to be something that was affecting young females as they thought that the fox would come into them through their fingernails or the space between their boobs. So. cleavage like, get soon they can just like hit, Diana's not watching me like just punch my cleavage but
Jerk:
You
Bitch:
I
Jerk:
did
Bitch:
am.
Jerk:
punch your cleavage.
Bitch:
Yep.
Jerk:
I was going to say so it's the I was trying to find the I found the cult leader. The cult leader was Shoko Asara. And that was the ones that did the sarin gas bombings.
Bitch:
It's, it starts with an A and
Jerk:
Om,
Bitch:
then. I'm sure it's not yet. I'm Shinriko. Um, I think, I don't know, we're pronouncing it wrong. Sorry, Japan, but yeah. Anyways, so, uh, go listen.
Jerk:
Om
Bitch:
Yeah. Go listen last podcast. They, they did, uh, they did a whole thing of that. All right. So I just think that's something that it's like became so like, there's also another term called Katsune gao, which means Fox face. So girls who were possessed were sometimes thought to have like their facial features become like a fox so they would have narrow faces, high cheekbones, eyes that were closer together and then eyebrows. But that also became something that was a beauty standard in Japan as well.
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
It's so interesting to me that it's a sign of mental illness but also a sign of a standard. Right?
Jerk:
That is.
Bitch:
Kind of interesting, right? Other some less terrifying powers than possession. A Kitsune being is Fox fire, which is a Fox fire. And so that's like bursts of like fire, light or lightning, but also seldomly used aggressively, usually just used for their own amusement or for psychological manipulation, which I like. In most paintings and depictions of Kitsune or individuals possessed by them, a mysterious and enchanting element can often be absurd. And that's a small white ball nestled in their mouths.
Jerk:
Hehehehe
Bitch:
It can also be in their tail. But it's pretty much like an orb, right? It's a globing orb. And so that is sometimes a symbol of the deity Inari as associated with her. And some say that these magic pearls are the sources of the Kitsune powers, or sometimes they're also used to store their powers. Or sometimes, you know, just a pretty pearl.
Jerk:
Oh, it's just a pretty pearl.
Bitch:
in their tail or in their mouth. It's better in their mouth though. It's just cute. I don't know, foxes with stuff in their mouth. It's just fucking cute. I don't know why this is. So the other power though, I think they're also very well known for is shape shifting. And so this is something that's gonna come into two legends I wanna talk about, but you're gonna really kind of give you that contrast. And so typically when they shape shift, they're gonna go into the form of a young, beautiful woman. Sometimes they do go into young boys or old men, but for some reason never middle-aged men. I think just because like maybe in like no matter what culture you're in, middle-aged men are just fucking boring. I don't know. But anyways,
Jerk:
Oh
Bitch:
I don't know why they didn't want to do it. They just don't. So two of the more well-known Katsune legends. The first we're going to talk about is Kutsu... Fuck man, I had it, I had it, I swear. Kutsunoha, Kutsunoha. So I listened to all the stuff, and I was like, you know what, a young nobleman
Jerk:
Japanese is a challenging language. I will be
Bitch:
named,
Jerk:
frank with
Bitch:
even
Jerk:
you.
Bitch:
Romanized, like it's still
Jerk:
Yeah,
Bitch:
just like,
Jerk:
very challenging.
Bitch:
so there is a, and I'm gonna say about his name. So a young nobleman encountered a military commissioner hunting foxes for their livers as medicine. And he battles the hunter, and he frees a trapped white fox. Later, the fox and human form as Kutsunoha tends to Yasuno's wounds and they fall in love and they marry and they have a child who inherits his supernatural powers. Remember talking earlier about the that when a Kutsune and a human breed later child has powers and stuff. So years later though, like he still doesn't know like that his wife is a fox. He knows he's a fox, he's not a fox. So years later
Jerk:
Hey!
Bitch:
though they're looking at flowers. I'm looking at chrysanthemums and her true nature is revealed. Right. And so she's like, I gotta go. So basically though, it's she leaves, she leaves a feral, feral poem, farewell poem, and tells Yasuna to meet her in the forest. And so he goes, he searches for her. She appears at a fox and he's like, that's cool. I love you anyways, honey. And they go home and like they live together. And her son has the ability to understand animals. And there's a lot of different ways this goes. Like, the kind of the main idea of the story is that there is a guy and a fox. And the fox is like, he thinks the fox is a woman. They get married, they have a kid. Finds out that the chick is a fox, she goes away, but he
Jerk:
Now
Bitch:
keeps
Jerk:
he's got
Bitch:
a baby.
Jerk:
he's got a baby. That's half Fox
Bitch:
But, and
Jerk:
ish.
Bitch:
usually though, he's okay with her. And like at the end, he is like, no, I don't mind that you're a fox and you come and you just live with me now.
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
And that happens in a lot of them. And so
Jerk:
Oh,
Bitch:
I think
Jerk:
that's
Bitch:
a
Jerk:
nice.
Bitch:
lot of the interpretations who is like, this was the idea of country versus city or low
Jerk:
Hmm
Bitch:
class versus higher class. Right. And so
Jerk:
Okay.
Bitch:
that you had a, the rich guy marries a chick who is up to his standards, finds out that she's deceptive, like
Jerk:
Right.
Bitch:
a fox, like a sneaky. And then like, but for the most part, he accepts her for being different, which I think is a really great.
Jerk:
That's a lovely story.
Bitch:
I love that version of the story, right? It's like, hey, we're different. Like I tricked you, sorry, but you love me anyways, right?
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
cool. So Tamama Nome was born:Jerk:
magical supreme power.
Bitch:
Magical supreme power, actually I wrote supreme magical, but I like magical supreme power is better. And she was an expert at manipulation. to use her charms and wit to advance her standing in Influence World Affairs.
Jerk:
What? Influence of world affairs?
Bitch:
Why is that bad? All right, so the first time we run into this is Da Ji in the Shang dynasty. That's China So Da Ji was from a noble family who was invaded by King Zhao of Shang and he took her as his prize But he was just fascinated with her and he would do anything to please her so she liked animals So he was like I will make you a zoo look at all your fun animals and then she was like I like music and he was like And then she was like, but I'm also filthy. So he gets a bunch of musicians who write her a bunch of songs with dirty, dirty lyrics. And then he constructs what becomes known as the Lake of Wine and Forest of Meat.
Jerk:
Oh.
Bitch:
Ah!
Jerk:
Can
Bitch:
So,
Jerk:
we go there?
Bitch:
yes. So this is a place they've actually dug up. So there are things. They're like, there is a pool. This thing was not used for water. Maybe it was used for wine. So but apparently there was just like a lake it was filled with wine and alongside of this We're just a bunch of meat that there's so much meat that was hung. It was like a forest So I'm just picturing like Spain with all the humongous, you know And like
Jerk:
Hamon.
Bitch:
we can we just like swim up and just be like, I don't know I'm just like nibble off like our piece of meat like while we swim in our wine Yeah,
Jerk:
And just take a straw in the wine.
Bitch:
so I was swimming in the wine so you're not swimming in it, but okay, okay
Jerk:
No.
Bitch:
these that yet these
Jerk:
You don't
Bitch:
things
Jerk:
want to share the wine pool. I'm sorry.
Bitch:
Okay, I have taken a wine bath though. So yeah, I
Jerk:
No.
Bitch:
did that in Argentina.
Jerk:
No, that's right.
Bitch:
So, okay, this is not great. So she thought that torture and executions were hilarious.
Jerk:
Oh,
Bitch:
And
Jerk:
that's,
Bitch:
yeah,
Jerk:
that's not great.
Bitch:
I know.
Jerk:
Not great.
Bitch:
So in one of the stories, she saw a farmer walking across ice barefoot. So she ordered his feet to cut off so she could understand why his feet could walk across ice.
Jerk:
That's terrible.
Bitch:
That's not good. She's also credited with the invention of a method of torture known as the bronze toaster, which does not sound like, it sounds like a lovely appliance on
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
your, but it's not, it's not a lovely appliance. So this is a bronze cylinder that was covered with oil and that was heated because there's a charcoal underneath it that was slowly heating it. And
Jerk:
Mmm.
Bitch:
so like you had to like walk on top of this cylinder and like keep moving it. So like your feet didn't burn and
Jerk:
Oh
Bitch:
then
Jerk:
no.
Bitch:
eventually you fall into the truck. So that
Jerk:
Mm-mm.
Bitch:
was her apparent, some people say that she was executed on his order on King, King Zhao's orders after the Shang dynasty fell or that she committed suicide by strangulation. Next, she, but she just like, I'm not done. I'm a nine tailed fox, bitch. So she comes back
Jerk:
with magical supreme powers.
Bitch:
magical supreme powers. So she's next seen as Lady Kayo in India, who was the consort of King, Kama Shipada. And so with her beauty and allure, she exerted control over the king, driving him to devour children, slay priests and commit unimaginable atrocities.
Jerk:
Well, that's not
Bitch:
Eventually,
Jerk:
good.
Bitch:
whether due to a scarcity of children to consume or a calm, but shipata is a growing inclination towards Buddhism, she went back to China. All right. So then we see her again during the Zhou dynasty in China as Bao Xi. and there she rode to prominence as one of China's most alluring figures. In 779 BCE, she became King Yao's concubine and she manipulated him into deposing his wife and becoming the new queen.
Jerk:
Oh, well, like you do.
Bitch:
Despite her captivating beauty, she is referred to as having a resting bitch face, if that was possible in the tenet of his sense. She never displayed a smile, which I just assumed meant she had resting bitch face. So, but her husband did not care. So to please his new found queen, he committed heinous acts, leading his nobles to abandon and betray him. Eventually he meets his demise, she gets captured. Oh, but she escapes, spends many years in hiding. All right. So she goes away. We don't know much about her. Then she comes around again in the 700s where she is, I don't know if this is BC or 80, but she becomes, she resurvaces as a 16 year old girl named Wacomo. or Wakamu and she deceived the leaders of, oh, so we've also jumped centuries against, I'm sorry. So we're in the Tang dynasty now. And so, I don't know, she does stuff. She joins a crew. She sets sail over Japan. She hides there for 300 years. She comes
Jerk:
Hmm.
Bitch:
back in the:Jerk:
Huh.
Bitch:
So now she's a baby. And
Jerk:
guys.
Bitch:
so Just yeah, you know, so she now she's been found by a couple on the roadside. So they found an abandoned girl. They named her Miko Zume and she's just grows up. Everyone's like, she's super smart. She's very talented. The emperor is like, you are very impressive. Come to court, become my servant. So she becomes, it goes to court and everyone's like, we love her. And then Japan's like, yeah, she's so cool. Then she has a recital when she's 18. And then like, when that happens, there's a sudden storm. punches a room into darkness and a bright light just like pops out of her and they're like, what?
Jerk:
That would be upsetting.
Bitch:
But everyone's like, you're awesome. Woo, wait, like girl. And the emperor's like, I'm going to marry you. No, just kidding. You become my consort. So he was just like, you're my consort. And then she gets the name Tamamo no Mei. And so then it's certainly after she becomes his consort, he becomes ill. And so, uh, despite prayers, like his health deteriorates and then they're like, oh no, you're a kitsune and you've been shortening his life to gain power. And she's like, yeah. No. And so he was like, all right, like, if you're not evil, come join me in this ritual. And she's like, okay, I'll do that. And then like after like, we're in the middle of it, she's like, haha, just kidding. And they're like, you're sorry, you're a fox. And so then she vanishes in the court goes into chaos and commotion. And so she just goes away. But after she leaves, knew the spread that women and children near a province just start disappearing. And
Jerk:
Huh.
Bitch:
the court sorcerers are like, it's Chamamonome! And they're like, we must kill her! So they summoned the best warriors in the land and they go and they go try and find her and they take out an army of 80,000 men! And so
Jerk:
lot
Bitch:
they
Jerk:
of people.
Bitch:
finally, they find her and they're like, yes, you were easy to find. You have nine tails. It is very hard to not see you nine tailed Fox lady.
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
And so, but she's still like, I'm a Fox bitch. And so she outsmarts them because you know, in the army,
Jerk:
but she
Bitch:
she's
Jerk:
does.
Bitch:
just like, we're so tired. They're like, she's like, haha, I'm, you know, I'm a Fox. And so they're like, they were like, we're going to keep working and keep working. And finally, one of them like has a dream, right? He's like, okay, I'm going to have a dream. And in the dream, a beautiful young girl appears and she's just like, please save me. And the warrior says, no, I am a warrior and I'm strong and I will find you. So he does. So he goes out, he finds her and they capture and he shoots two arrows, one through her flank and one through her neck.
Jerk:
Hmm
Bitch:
And then the other one, other soldier, like slung his blade and killed her. But she didn't die because she's a fox. Ha ha.
Jerk:
Obviously.
Bitch:
who touches it until March of:Jerk:
What?
Bitch:
Her story does not end. The foxy lady comes back. So in March of 22, the rock known as the Seisho Seki, or Seki, I don't know, Google Translate did not have an analysis, but that translates to the killing stone. It's split in two. And according to The Guardian, visitors to the area, which was a popular sightseeing spot, recoiled in horror at the weekend after witnesses posted photos of the fractured stone. And someone on Twitter said, I feel like I've seen something that shouldn't be seen. A post that attracted almost 700,000 likes, 700, 170,000 likes, which the guardian felt the need to quote, which I thought was a weird thing to put in an article. Anyways, so while some people speculated that the demon spirit of Tamamo Nome had been resurrected after a thousand years. local media said cracks that appear in the rock several years ago and rain water got inside and like we can do, but whatever. So the demon she's,
Jerk:
Could have
Bitch:
she's
Jerk:
been
Bitch:
not
Jerk:
Nadine.
Bitch:
a demon.
Jerk:
Could
Bitch:
She's a night tail Foxy bitch.
Jerk:
have been
Bitch:
She's
Jerk:
foxy
Bitch:
out
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lady.
Bitch:
Foxy ladies coming out. All right. And I know I said this was long, but I have to, I had to bring this back to baby metal because I sent Diana
Jerk:
Uh-huh.
Bitch:
a video of if you don't know Diana, do you want to explain who baby metal is?
Jerk:
I mean, it's Japanese female metal band, but they sing. I
Bitch:
Are they a metal band? I don't know.
Jerk:
mean, it's kind of like pop electronica,
Bitch:
So it's basically like three girl, like
Jerk:
very
Bitch:
the
Jerk:
anime look.
Bitch:
legend of baby metal, there has been many, there have been different people who have been, and I can't make their fox thing, they have a fox sign. Like I said, do the devil horns, they got fucked up one time, so they were like, oh yeah, it's the fox symbol. So they make a sign, like their hand symbol, like their
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
fans do,
Jerk:
It's like
Bitch:
is
Jerk:
a little
Bitch:
the
Jerk:
fox.
Bitch:
symbol for the Katsune. It's a fox. And so they're basically, their kawaii metal band is pretty much the- the tale of most Japanese bands where they're just like, we wanna put some chicks in front of something, what can sell records? Metal!
Jerk:
Okay.
Bitch:
So like.
Jerk:
It's metal adjacent. It is not metal, you're right.
Bitch:
No, it's like a pop like it's literally
Jerk:
It's pop
Bitch:
like
Jerk:
track
Bitch:
a mashup.
Jerk:
over a metal guitar.
Bitch:
It's a it's a pop track over metal, while these cute girls dance around and
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
do things. And if you watch their mega hit, mega Tsuné, and the whole song is about fucking kitsune. And so they have a part in there where they just go, but basically that means careful, like playful and carefree nature. the mysterious boxes. So I also like you can see Kitsune is real fast like in pop culture in like Pokemon. So we've got the Mulpix, they've got nine tails. They're all over anime, they're all over manga and just in pop culture in general because they're foxy bitches. And so that's the story of that's when the Kitsune are and what the fuck is this shit?
Jerk:
Not nearly
Bitch:
What?
Jerk:
as cool.
Bitch:
What is this? I love you, Amy, but
Jerk:
Oh, yeah, but yeah. All right. So speaking of Amy, we are back at her house and she is frantically packing and Sam has followed her because she dropped a piece of paper with her address on it. I'm confused, but whatever.
Bitch:
It was in her pocket.
Jerk:
I know,
Bitch:
So
Jerk:
but it's
Bitch:
when
Jerk:
still
Bitch:
he
Jerk:
weird.
Bitch:
grabbed
Jerk:
Like
Bitch:
like
Jerk:
why
Bitch:
he grabbed,
Jerk:
do you carry your own address around in your pocket? That's
Bitch:
I don't know, like it was the, it was the 20, it was the 20 teens or whatever. So.
Jerk:
Sure. Either way. But she's like, she's like, look, I see I wasn't, he's like, yeah, you weren't lying, but I also see that you got fresh blood on you. And she's still going in circles saying that you can't explain, but you know me. So we get a
Bitch:
He
Jerk:
flashback.
Bitch:
also points out that she's going by Amy Pond, which was one of the Doctors in the Doctor Who series. So that is a supernatural fans often take this as a crossover. Let's see.
Jerk:
Okay. Well, we get another flashback to the end of their kiss and the soda spills and Amy's frantic to clean it up because basically she's talking about how her mom's got a really bad temper and she's really not sure if her mom's a good person at all. But Sam insists that he knows Amy now and knows that she is a good person. And neither of them wanna be like their parents.
Bitch:
Yeah, she's like, I don't want to be like my mom. She's kind of a psycho. And he is like, my dad's kind of a drunk. So they're not really saying what their parents are, but they're still kind of bonding over our
Jerk:
Problems.
Bitch:
childhood sucks.
Jerk:
Yeah. So
Bitch:
Make out.
Jerk:
Sam's gonna, back in modern, he's like, she finally like has to let Sam know what's going on and she opens the door and there is a young boy who is her son, Jacob. And basically she's like, look, I'm in the PTA, I'm a fucking mortician, so I don't have to kill people typically. But my son got real sick and the only thing to make him better was fresh glands. So I had to go kill a few. But we're done, he's better now, it's fine, it's fine.
Bitch:
It's fine. Look, I mean, like we're trying to like live by the moral code that you're making us like, we need
Jerk:
But
Bitch:
this
Jerk:
yeah,
Bitch:
for
Jerk:
what is she? What is she?
Bitch:
Yeah, but she is like, I think, you know, she's
Jerk:
She's
Bitch:
like,
Jerk:
still
Bitch:
hey,
Jerk:
killed,
Bitch:
I'm eating.
Jerk:
she's still killed.
Bitch:
She killed to save because like, hey, like we're trying to eat what you can. And you know, but unfortunately, that's risky, right? Like sometimes you get bad food. And the only thing that's going to do is and she was like, I was trying to do it moralistically, right? She
Jerk:
Tryin'.
Bitch:
was taking out bad dudes. Like she's like, I'm gonna do it. And then she also like, I think Sam says this later though, but what would you do for your kid?
Jerk:
Yeah,
Bitch:
It's your fucking kid.
Jerk:
I know. So we get our flashback and the wrap up here basically is mom is home and this is bad because first off, we know Amy's not supposed to talk to boys at all. But we, as the viewer, have figured out that Amy's mom is probably what Dean and John are hunting, that Sam has been helping them research. So he has to get slammed in the closet to hide while Amy and her mom talk. And basically she's like, mom tells us that a couple of pros and a piece of crap in Paula have caught up with them. Just funny.
Bitch:
No, we already don't like her. She's talking shit about baby.
Jerk:
I know. And she like, and so they got to move. There's time to move again. They got to get on the road. And, uh, Amy has like, you know, winds back like a teenager does. And her mom says, like really in pain. I'll do what I say, or I'll let you starve.
Bitch:
Her mom's a cunt. By
Jerk:
I
Bitch:
the
Jerk:
was
Bitch:
way,
Jerk:
like,
Bitch:
I have no problem with her mom dying.
Jerk:
your
Bitch:
Kill her
Jerk:
mom
Bitch:
fucking
Jerk:
is
Bitch:
mom.
Jerk:
not nice.
Bitch:
Her mom is not a good person. No.
Jerk:
But to protect Sam, because mom's about to discover him, Amy turns real fast. She's like, no, never mind. You're right. Well, we'll go. We'll go. Why don't you go put gas in the van and we'll pack. And thinking that she's just sent her mom out so Sam can make his escape. But really, mom knew that. Well, but really, Sam is now upset. He's going to come out of the closet looking. real upset with Amy because now he's like,
Bitch:
And he's
Jerk:
what
Bitch:
got
Jerk:
the
Bitch:
his
Jerk:
fuck?
Bitch:
knife out. Like
Jerk:
He's
Bitch:
he's
Jerk:
got
Bitch:
like,
Jerk:
a knife. He's
Bitch:
I got a giant
Jerk:
like,
Bitch:
knife
Jerk:
he's
Bitch:
out.
Jerk:
like, he's going to stab Amy now because mom's gone. Like, what the fuck are you doing? But she's realized that he's a hunter. He realizes that she's what they've been hunting. So this is all bad. And he's they both know they're supposed to kill each other. That's very sad.
Bitch:
But she's also like, you know, like, well, like, do we have to do that? Do we have to do these roles that, and this is where Romeo and Juliet too, like,
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
do we have to do the roles that we have put
Jerk:
Yeah,
Bitch:
before us? Right. Do you have
Jerk:
because
Bitch:
to kill me
Jerk:
she's
Bitch:
because
Jerk:
like,
Bitch:
you're
Jerk:
I've
Bitch:
a hunter?
Jerk:
never killed anybody before and I don't want to hurt you.
Bitch:
So do we have to do this now? No, I don't think so.
Jerk:
Well, we cut back to the motel and Sam is opening, trying to open his motel door and gets punched in the face, which is really funny, by the way.
Bitch:
And it was really funny. And then Dean tells him a new rule. You still my baby, you get punched.
Jerk:
That sounds reasonable, right?
Bitch:
That is reasonable. You still my girl, you get punched in the face.
Jerk:
Yeah. So and funny, we get that parallel from the flashback scene where Sam then uses a can of soda as ice for his face on his black eye.
Bitch:
I love you pulling that out. Yeah. That was so good.
Jerk:
It was a nice parallel. Well done.
Bitch:
Yep.
Jerk:
But Dean's just like berating Sam about like, meh, you're losing your mind. You're not healthy. I'm mocking you, blah, blah. Lucifer, da, da. And Sam like really pretty calmly like, is like, look, I took care of Kitsune. So I've been fine. I've been on this job. It's fine. And Dean's like, well, then where's the body? And he's like, there is no body. I let her go and she's gone. Okay, so we know that
Bitch:
Ah.
Jerk:
Sam decided not to kill Amy because he believed her and trusted her.
Bitch:
Okay.
Jerk:
Good. So we get our flashback and Amy's mom was waiting all along because she was like, I knew you wouldn't be nice about us moving. So
Bitch:
No, no, no. She said we can
Jerk:
throw
Bitch:
never
Jerk:
a bitch fit.
Bitch:
blow town without Amy throwing a bitch fit. So we're gonna go peacefully. Well, who is this? And she is just like the like the woman that makes you not like women. It's
Jerk:
No,
Bitch:
like, oh!
Jerk:
you can't you can't have friends. He's food. And she hits Amy, which is real bad. And we see her pull her hand back. She gets her crazy black claws. Her eyes go real like kind of crazy, cat eye black, weird. And right when she's about to kill Sam, Amy stabs her mom from behind. Whoa.
Bitch:
Yeah!
Jerk:
Killing your mom is pretty bonkers, even if your mom is bitch.
Bitch:
Everyone's a bitch. Like, I kinda feel like she's not wrong when she plays this card.
Jerk:
I'm just saying. So yeah, because
Bitch:
What she did for him.
Jerk:
yeah,
Bitch:
She
Jerk:
she's
Bitch:
killed
Jerk:
played
Bitch:
her
Jerk:
that. She's
Bitch:
fucking
Jerk:
like, I killed
Bitch:
mom.
Jerk:
him. Yeah, she killed her mom to save Sam's life. So yeah, she's asking him to trust her. And so he did. OK. And so Sam has now shared this with Dean. And Dean's still like, well, you never told me about that. And Sam's like, well, I've never told anybody. So he's just. Dean is still confused about letting this go because it's still a monster, even if it's, you know, even if
Bitch:
He
Jerk:
it
Bitch:
doesn't
Jerk:
was to
Bitch:
call
Jerk:
save
Bitch:
her
Jerk:
the
Bitch:
a
Jerk:
kid.
Bitch:
monster, he calls her a freak.
Jerk:
He does.
Bitch:
And this kind of explains why, maybe why Sam hates this word so much, like.
Jerk:
Yeah. And, and, and he's also like, well, she's dropping bodies. So we got to drop her. And he's like, it's simple. But Sam's like, nothing in our lives is simple. And he is fucking right. Nothing is simple. And I thought we had already had this great area discussion like two seasons ago or three seasons ago with
Bitch:
Yeah,
Jerk:
Dean.
Bitch:
that's why this why
Jerk:
So
Bitch:
it's not
Jerk:
it's
Bitch:
my favorite thing. Like,
Jerk:
kind of annoying.
Bitch:
we've already like he's already done like he has moved past this Dean moved past this. Why are we doing this again?
Jerk:
Because it's all about Sam and it's about his lack of trust of Sam. And that's what it's about and that's what made me mad about it. Because he doesn't trust Sam's judgment to have let her go. Because he didn't trust Sam to go out on his own. Because he doesn't trust Sam's mental health.
Bitch:
But even if you don't trust his mental health, like I'd be like, this seems legit, this is fine. Nothing's just fine, but you know what I mean. Like, I
Jerk:
It's
Bitch:
don't
Jerk:
not fine,
Bitch:
know.
Jerk:
but it's over. So whatever it was kind of the deal. I don't know. So back in the flashback time, Sam tells her that she's got to like, she's got to go on the run, take her first bus out of town, find some cash and he'll take care of his mom's body, which is awful. But then also, but she also asked him to go with.
Bitch:
She does! But he says no, and that's just really sad. I wish we could have had a really great spinoff there.
Jerk:
So obviously Sam's pretty upset that Dean's used the freak word in this way again. And Dean obviously knows better and there's and so Sam calls him out for it. But like it's not just about Sam has always been kind of a freak, like as far as like Dean's always kind of implied. But now we've got like all this like the hallucinations and the hell stuff on top of it, which is probably not fucking helpful. But it sounds like, look, I've tried to be normal. I'm not normal. I'm a grade A freak, but I'm managing it. So what the fuck? And he's like, look, Amy found a way to manage, so come on. And Dean is says, he's super skeptical looking, but Sam asks Dean to trust him. Dean concedes and just agrees to trust him. And Sam is surprised by this. And Dean
Bitch:
Well...
Jerk:
replies with, you gotta start somewhere. And then we all feel like a little better for a minute. But it gets
Bitch:
Well,
Jerk:
worse.
Bitch:
and he also, yeah, but also like he does tell Dean that her kid was dying, right? Which to me, like, again, let me go back in the moral compass of this, but that's a pretty big, like, hey, Dean, this is family, right? You're all
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
about family. This
Jerk:
What would
Bitch:
is,
Jerk:
you do? Yeah, you'd have to.
Bitch:
he killed, like, and like, clearly like nobody, like, saying there's, you know, this moral judgment on people, but like, she was trying to do this in the least distructful way that she could. But Dean won't, like Dean, this is what Dean just fucking lies.
Jerk:
Yeah, he pretends that he's being sweet to and being in turning a corner and going to trust Sam. But no, we find out that instead Dean convinces Sam that they've got to go to Spokane to stay in a motel overnight before they go meet up with Bobby. And Dean's got to go fill his prescription. But instead, Oh, what is he doing? He's going to go find Amy because Dean was lying about trusting his brother fucking tricked him about trusting him when all his brother asked him to do was trust him and instead of saying, no, I don't or hey, I trust you, but I don't agree with you or anything else. He pretended to agree with his fucking brother and to trust him. So it was a lie. How many layers of like fucked is that to say you trust someone, like assure someone that is begging for your trust and your confidence to think of that.
Bitch:
This whole thing is so shady. All of it is just shady. It's gross. It makes me not like Dean at all.
Jerk:
Now.
Bitch:
Like this, like I would break up with Dean Winchester right here, right now.
Jerk:
Yeah, because he's in Amy's hotel room and waiting for her when she comes in and identifies himself as Sam's brother and that she's missing. People are looking for her, but Sam does not know that Dean is there. He makes sure to tell her that at least because guess what's going to happen. Oh, he doesn't believe she's not going to kill again. So he's like, yeah, I know the other shoe is going to drop. And he stabs her.
Bitch:
Fucking hell, Dean. How many
Jerk:
She's
Bitch:
of
Jerk:
just
Bitch:
Sam's
Jerk:
chilling
Bitch:
girlfriend,
Jerk:
in a hotel room and just kills her.
Bitch:
how many of Sam's girlfriends are you gonna have to fucking stab?
Jerk:
Oh
Bitch:
Like,
Jerk:
god, right?
Bitch:
it's just, it's just, ugh. It's just gross. And then what's worse is like he does this like right in front of her kid.
Jerk:
Yeah, because her son is standing at the fucking door watching all this go down and sees Dean with the blood and everything. And he asks this kid, Jacob, I guess his name was, said, do you have somewhere you can go? And the kid nods, asks if these kids ever killed anybody, shakes his head no. And Dean says, if you do, I'll come back for you.
Bitch:
You just told that to a child? Like, what is wrong with you? What the fuck is wrong with you, Dean
Jerk:
Dean
Bitch:
Winchester?
Jerk:
Winchester is off his rocker. And the kid, though, says, "'Only person I'm gonna kill is you.'"
Bitch:
That's right, you killed Bill this
Jerk:
Woof!
Bitch:
shit
Jerk:
Ah.
Bitch:
motherfucker. You come back for him, Jacob.
Jerk:
They
Bitch:
That's
Jerk:
just.
Bitch:
the next Winchester series. All right, Jensen Ackles, you already directed this episode. Here you go. Next episode, next series. Jacob's coming for you, man, motherfucker.
Jerk:
Fuck yeah. We get them, they depart and it's awkward and sad. But back in Whitefish, where this, where they kicked off out, that where the cabin was our credit card dude is what I was calling him. Yeah, I worked for the credit card company has
Bitch:
I call him our film guy. Whatever.
Jerk:
confirmed,
Bitch:
Yeah.
Jerk:
confirmed that the Winchesters were there and that is alias tracking is working. And so talking to Edgar on the phone about it. But first, he's going to eat the counter guy. smothered in nacho cheese.
Bitch:
Because everything tastes better with cheese. And it's gas station nacho cheese, which is even better because it looks like Rico's, which by the way, if you don't know Rico's is made in San Antonio, Texas. We should go like, we should go tour the factory.
Jerk:
That's it. Do they do tours? Do you get samples?
Bitch:
I don't know. Yeah.
Jerk:
and we get the crazy Leviathan mouth.
Bitch:
Yeah, Canada.
Jerk:
Ugh.
Bitch:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Jerk:
So upsetting. I really enjoyed this episode up until Dean was a dick. Basically, up until he was a dick to Sam in the motel room. I was enjoying this episode. So
Bitch:
Yeah.
Jerk:
I don't,
Bitch:
Cassie couch.
Jerk:
I've got a few things. I don't have
Bitch:
Yep.
Jerk:
a ton to say, you know, there's quite a few characters, but not like I wanted to really kind of focus on
Bitch:
any
Jerk:
critical ones. So we'll start with, I think we've touched on Young Sam, but if we have, it's been a very long time.
Bitch:
This, yeah, this is I think the fourth or fifth episode that he
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
has played young Sam's Winchester.
Jerk:
So once again, it's Colin Ford. I won't go through all of his stuff, but one of his most recent things still, I'll just reference it to, he's been in multiple episodes of Walker. So,
Bitch:
Yeah, which is cool. I like
Jerk:
yeah,
Bitch:
it.
Jerk:
because it's cool. Yeah. Cause he's playing a member of the Walker family. So it's cool. We've got a young Amy is played by Emma Grabinski and she has done a, not a ton of stuff. She did a handful of episodes of the RL Stein haunting hour series. Adult Amy Pond is played by Jewel State. She's been in single episodes of shows like X-Files Castle, Detectives, and Quantum Leap, the new version. She was a recurring character on Firefly called Kaylee Fry. She...
Bitch:
Okay, no, okay, no,
Jerk:
No. I don't watch firefire, I'm sorry. But I knew to mention it.
Bitch:
no
Jerk:
hen he played a stoner in the:Bitch:
No, that was good. Yeah.
Jerk:
I didn't watch it, but I've heard about it.
Bitch:
He's
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
also really, I don't know. He's my type. He's a little
Jerk:
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Bitch:
skanky. He kind
Jerk:
Huh.
Bitch:
of reminds me of Ash. I don't know. He's like evil Ash.
Jerk:
Okay. I can see that. It's like kind of demeanor.
Bitch:
Yeah,
Jerk:
Okay.
Bitch:
I just
Jerk:
Cool.
Bitch:
kind
Jerk:
Cocky.
Bitch:
of like this cocky, super smart guy that everyone kind of underestimates. Yeah, I like that. So,
Jerk:
Ah.
Bitch:
well, thank you for that.
Jerk:
Mm-hmm.
Bitch:
Yeah. Sorry, I'm gonna laugh about that for a while. That goes into the thing. I forgot what it was you sent me this weekend. I was watching Airplane
Jerk:
Yes.
Bitch:
and you sent me a message about it. I was like, I just assumed you hadn't seen this.
Jerk:
Come on now. I've seen some of the classics.
Bitch:
Anyway, so this episode, why did you like it? What was, why did you enjoy it until it got shitty?
Jerk:
Well, I thought it was fun in a way. I mean, I know like there's people being killed, but it was fun because we were seeing, it was fun because it was an interesting mystery and it was presented in a cool way with the flashback versus the current parallels. That was really fun and interesting. It was a very Sam centric episode. Dean was basically annoying at it the whole thing, which is really funny that this guy directed himself being fucking annoying.
Bitch:
Friday?
Jerk:
You're gonna direct yourself being annoying and a dick the whole episode? Like, the fuck. That's a real weird choice.
Bitch:
But also, I mean, granted, really interesting to go through because he said, like, you know, I think he picked this episode, I'm not sure, but go back into like why he did this. Like, I would think though, it's probably easier to direct yourself in something that we're not liked, right? Or you do something bad. I don't know. At least
Jerk:
I guess.
Bitch:
for me, it would be like, what, how am I supposed to be nice? Like, I don't understand how that works. And he's like, oh, yeah.
Jerk:
I don't know. It was it was it was Dean was so off putting it really killed the episode for me at the end.
Bitch:
No, I mean that just that ruins everything. And also when we got another, once again, you can't date Sam Winchester. Like at first it was like, you can't fuck him. And now it's like, you can't even kiss him
Jerk:
You
Bitch:
and
Jerk:
came,
Bitch:
you die.
Jerk:
if you kissed him, if you kissed him
Bitch:
You
Jerk:
two
Bitch:
kissed
Jerk:
decades
Bitch:
him when
Jerk:
ago
Bitch:
you were two
Jerk:
or 15
Bitch:
decades
Jerk:
years
Bitch:
ago.
Jerk:
ago as a teenager, you gonna die. Like what the fuck? Ugh. Yeah.
Bitch:
Yep. Also, I know that we went really long on the Kitsumi thing, but I did forget to mention that something that'll matter later, that the maths are really important. Then maybe you have to watch our intros to figure out why the master report. So yeah, anyways, okay, I'm just I'm done. I don't want to talk about this episode anymore.
Jerk:
Uh-uh.
Bitch:
Like, I love young Sam. I love young Amy.
Jerk:
I like Amy.
Bitch:
Amy should have lived. She was
Jerk:
Yeah.
Bitch:
a cool mortician chick, you know, like cool mortician chicks and Sam was right to let her live. I don't know. This is, you know, I don't know what ethical quandary she want to fall under, but she... I don't know. I think Amy shouldn't have stabbed her.
Jerk:
Mm. Mm-mm.
Bitch:
Don't date a Winchester.
Jerk:
Terrible plan.
Bitch:
Yeah, we'll plan. All right. Anything else?
Jerk:
Well,
Bitch:
All right. Cheers, jerk.
Jerk:
cheers bitch.
