OUR HOSTS: 

Corinne Foxx - @corinnefoxx

Natalie McMillan - @nataliemcm and @shopnataliemcmillan 

What we're drinking: 2020 Luna Pinot Grigio 

MEET OUR GUEST: 

Scout Sobel - @scoutsobel, @scoutsagency and scoutsobel.com

ABOUT OUR GUEST: 

Scout Sobel is the CEO of Scout’s Agency, founder of The Emotional Entrepreneur, which is a podcast and best-selling book, and one half of the Okay Sis podcast. Scout's Agency provides PR for entrepreneurs, podcasters and brands. She's a trailblazer in the media industry for utilizing podcasts as a powerful form of PR. She's also lived with bipolar disorder for the last 15 years, but after finding entrepreneurship and taking radical responsibility over her emotions, she's now able to live a life of purpose.

TOPIC: 

If you’ve ever thought about starting a podcast, this episode is for you! Today, we’re joined by Scout Sobel, CEO of Scout’s Agency, founder of The Emotional Entrepreneur and co-host of the Okay Sis podcast. 

Scout shares how she got her start in podcasting, why every business woman needs to have a podcast strategy and her top tips for building your network via podcasting. We get into the importance of consistency, the intersection of mental health and business and how to approach work from a healthier mindset. 

Listen in to hear more of Scout’s wisdom on how to emotionally handle entrepreneurship and build up your brand.  

In this episode, we discuss:

• The story behind Okay Sis and The Emotional Entrepreneur podcasts 
• The depth of community and following that you can cultivate by having a podcast 
• Scout’s advice for people who want to start a podcast 
• The reality about ad revenue in the podcast industry 
• The importance of having clear branding and messaging 
• Tips and tricks to be a guest on podcasts 
• What inspired Scout to write her book, The Emotional Entrepreneur
• What she means when she tells people to get ROI on their pain
• How you prioritize your mental health as an entrepreneur
• Her journey with bipolar disorder 
• The people in our lives that lift us up 

END OF THE SHOW: 

Corinne and Natalie introduce Hottie of the Week: Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen

WINE RATING:

2020 Luna Pinot Grigio  = 6 / Mary Kate and Ashley 

WRAP UP:

To wrap up the episode, we play Recent Obsessions. Nat can’t get enough of the Cacio e Pepe Puffs, which are like Pirate’s Booty, but fancier and more delicious. She’s also loving the tooth emoji, especially now that she’s found a dentist who will sedate her for her annual cleaning. Corinne has gotten really into a podcast called Crime Junkie, but be warned that it’s not for the faint of heart. 

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[00:00:08] Natalie McMillan: And I'm Natalie McMillan.

[00:00:19] Natalie McMillan: And each week we cover a new topic and we drink a new bottle of wine.

[00:00:39] Natalie McMillan: that name. I love scout gout, Sobel. What a name?

And this is a good thing. So even if you're not an entrepreneur, if you're just being in the workspace, you got to like balance your mental health and how to approach, um, work from a healthier. Yes. Yeah. A hundred percent. And you already say that our wrap up today. I didn't, but our wrap up today is going to be recent obsessions,

[00:01:19] Natalie McMillan: obsession, which I think we've only done one or two other times.

Yeah.

Let me show it to you. Okay. Let me see. Let me see. You're probably going to get an station like how other, like, it

[00:01:48] Natalie McMillan: so minor. Oh, it's very minor. I mean, that could be.

I said, very irresponsibly, but

[00:02:15] Corinne Foxx: but it is a thing. It's a

[00:02:19] Natalie McMillan: if somebody did that to my car and they called me and said, oh my gosh, I just want to let you know, like.

No, I don't. She might not because it's very, very minor, but like, I would have a lot of respect for you. If I was hurt,

[00:02:36] Scout Sobel: or way too fast, man.

[00:02:42] Corinne Foxx: I was like, it's absolutely my fault.

I will cover all the costs do. And I was like, I really was like, We've got to slow down here. No, I think that's

[00:02:50] Natalie McMillan: You got to get to the potty. I, I, somebody one time, not my, my previous car, my Explorer when I'd first gotten it. And I was so excited about it. Somebody backed into me or something and they scratch the paint off my bumper.

And of course they didn't say anything. They didn't leave a note. Nothing. I cried so much. Oh my gosh.

[00:03:13] Natalie McMillan: I was so upset. So I would very much appreciate it if somebody was like I'm so if somebody apologized to me, I was like, I'm so

[00:03:22] Scout Sobel: Like I'm a, like, I am

[00:03:29] Scout Sobel: Yeah. Well, now I really

[00:03:34] Natalie McMillan: Drinking this epi. Okay. We're drinking the 20, 20 Luna Pinot Grigio from Napa. I feel like this is the first one in a long ass time that hasn't been like in a different language. We have had a lot of those. Yeah. This one just Luna, like I said, it's a different language.

Yeah. But you know, from Napa peanut breaching our

[00:03:57] Natalie McMillan: very excited town. It's a 2020. Are you going to say interesting. I'm not. I was actually going to say, wow, why was that? Let me, let me do a little. Why was that? Why was that a great descriptive? Yeah, it's very

I think if you're been a long time listener, or even if you're a newbie hello tour, and you am eyes, by the way they're growing, we love you guys genuinely loved. So you know, that we both were. A million different hats in business where we have the podcast. Nat has her own jewelry, candle art.

We do a lot of

I'm very, very excited to have scout on so we can both learn how we can be bosses and lead with our hearts, which I do think we do. We do. We do. I, you know, I always love a good tip. I want to be school. Yeah.

Emotional entrepreneur, which is a podcast and best-selling book and she's the cohost of the popular, okay. SIS podcast. She's a trailblazer in the media industry for utilizing podcasts as a powerful form of PR. And after starting Oasis, which focuses on female guests, scout fell in love with spreading women's stories and identified the rising popularity and influence.

Podcasting. So she started Scouts agency with an emphasis in podcast PR for women, entrepreneurs, podcasters and brands. She's also lived with bipolar disorder for the last 15 years, but after finding entrepreneurship and taking radical responsibility over her emotions, she's now able to live in.

I love that.

[00:06:31] Corinne Foxx: she's impressed.

We got to welcome her on.

[00:06:46] Corinne Foxx: good. By the way, I feel like I just have to say this off the top scout is on my baby names list.

Why can't I can do that.

So I just named you guys after me and I'm like, okay, you go mom.

[00:07:39] Corinne Foxx: that was.

[00:07:40] Natalie McMillan: yeah, I think you could totally name your kids scout.

[00:07:47] Natalie McMillan: Definitely. So we just want to jump right into it. So first and foremost, you're a big leader in the podcasting space. You've got emotional entrepreneur. You've got okay. SIS, can you share with our listeners kind of how you got into podcasting and how it's impacted your life?

Okay, so that must've been 2017, very random. I was living in this kind of loft industrial apartment with my husband who was back then my fiance. And we lived next to a wholesale produce store. And in that wholesale produce store, they sold all of the produce to the nice San Diego restaurants, et cetera.

But since we were neighbors, they gave us a discount and allowed us to come in and shop. So I was there every day, getting whatever, you know, greens. And I got to know the women who worked there really well and suddenly they opened a podcast studio in the produce shop, which is the randomest thing in the world.

[00:08:50] Scout Sobel: again? The studio is literally right when you walk in, like as you're going through the hallway to get to. All of the produce. There's just this podcast studio that they put there. They wanted to like, you know, have a YouTube channel and, you know, good for that digital media personal brand for the wholesale priority store.

So I asked if I could get in there and they said, sure. And they produced my podcasts for free, basically, because it was kind of a test. They didn't know what they were doing in this space. And that's how I got in. I wasn't even a listener of podcasts. It wasn't exactly a thing. Back then he was starting to kind of become something that people did, but, uh, very quickly, not quickly about a year into hosting that I got a little bored.

I wasn't treating it like a business. And I really attribute that boredom to the fact that they were doing most of it for me. And I just showed up and I really believe in the beginning of a project. Doing everything yourself is what gets you really connected and loyal to the project. So it was feeling stale.

I wasn't running it as a business. And that's when I asked my sister to come on my podcast after some Rosay, as we were laying by the pool for her birthday. And the podcast was very mental health, spiritual based. And me and my sister went into the business center and just talked about the bachelor for like an hour.

Yeah. Electric and fun. And so I knew that me and Mads had to do something together and that's how, okay, this was born and, okay. This was the thing that really opened my eyes to the power of podcasts day. You know, we were two Jewish sisters with no online presence, our careers weren't really going places.

And all of a sudden, two months or three months into running this, I'm in a hotel room with Vanessa Grimaldi who. Just quote-unquote one in the bachelor and I'm like, whoa, there's something incredibly powerful here. Then I started recognizing how powerful being a guest stays. And then I kind of was like, this is a new form of PR.

And then six months later, I started my agency. So when you ask how it's changed my life, it's, um, in more ways than one, it's given me my career, it's given me my network. I have women in my corner that I am friends with, that I support that they support me, that I never thought I would ever be able to be in communication with.

It's given me a community and audience. Literally everything that I am is due to podcasts. Wow. I

[00:11:28] Scout Sobel: with like a two-by-four.

Anyways, that that's our story with that. But you said. You realize that podcasting was a form of PR for you as well. And I'm curious, why do you think people need a podcast strategy to promote their brands and their businesses?

People are looking at your photo for probably. If that people size up your Instagram profile very quickly to figure out if they want to follow you or not. And if someone does follow you, they're engaging with you potentially like at the most 10 minutes a week, if that, if they're watching your stories every day and it's fragmented attention, it's not dedicated attention.

So there isn't necessarily a concentration. Depth that's happening with people in their communities, even on YouTube, like people talk about, I'm not a YouTuber, but people talk about like getting the right thumbnail, right. To get attention where for some reason, in a world where things are quick and a lot of information is getting thrown at us and we're scrolling onto the next, onto the next, onto the next, I was noticing that people were listening to people, talk on podcasts for up to an hour, you know, Yes.

I believe the audiences and the community members across the board on a numbers level are smaller in comparison to Instagram, but they hold more weight. So 15,000 listeners on a podcast is going to hold more weight than 15,000 followers on Instagram. So once I started seeing the level of attention that podcasts communities were given towards the podcast, they were listening to.

It was kind of this no-brainer. And then additionally, I was having conversations with women that were vulnerable and intimate and in depth. And I got to know them. I wasn't getting to know their logo type font. I wasn't getting to know their branding messaging. I wasn't getting to know the curated photo of them.

It was off the cuff, natural, who they were sitting in front of me and that kind of connection and exploration really enticed me. That was solidified when I would have these female guests on. Okay. SIS and I would want. Our community, follow them online, buy their products, sign up for their newsletter, become a member of their community, listened to their podcast.

It showed me that people want to do business with people. So we want to know the people behind the brands that we're consuming and to that people want more depth. Like we just want more. So if you're listening and you are a female brand or a female entrepreneur, you don't have to start a podcast to have a podcast strategy.

Although I also really think that's the best thing in the world. I'm sure YouTube can attest to that. Yeah. Being a guest is also an incredible way to talk to an audience that isn't like, oh, you got 15 seconds or you got 30 seconds on an ad with them. So it's, I mean, there's nowhere else in the digital media landscape where it's this deeply engaged.

A hundred

It's so much more authentic. You feel like, even though when you're, you're a listener, like you're a part of the conversation and you're like kind of responding in your head, you know?

It's crazy. It's crazy. And you can do it while you're at showering while you're walking while you're working out.

[00:15:38] Natalie McMillan: much. Mine is

[00:15:46] Corinne Foxx: so to go back to like with brands though, or if you are wanting to start your own company or something like that, what would you say is like the first step to creating a plan to kind of achieve your marketing goals through podcasting?

You can jump into being a guest immediate. But if you are just out of college or you've been working the corporate America grind, and you're now becoming an entrepreneur and he just started being a guest on a podcast, might not be the first step for you because you need a little bit of traction. It's like writing a book.

You have to have a little bit of the life experience before you write the book. So you have to have material to really talk about and dive into that's your own. So if you were starting a bit. And you are a new entrepreneur, start a podcast. It's gonna bring a bunch of different things. First of all, don't worry about downloads and don't worry about ad money and money in the podcast.

World is stupid unless you have a ridiculous amount of downloads. It's $25 part. Every thousand downloads you get. It's not worth it. If you're a new, personal ran female entrepreneurs, start a podcast, harness your community, harness the purchasing power of your community to buy your services, your product, engage in your business.

Versus getting them 10% off, some vitamin or something and getting $25 in return with that. You're going to create a D. Community, no matter how small or how large doesn't matter the size, you're going to be able to exercise your thought leadership and your mission. So you're going to be massaging your message constantly.

And the third best thing in the world is you can build a network beyond your web. So, if you are in the motherhood space, you could have every mommy blogger you've ever followed on. You could have the doctors that talk about early childhood development that you absolutely look up to. You can have the New York times bestselling author of parenting books, and all of a sudden you started a mommy business, and now you have like 30 people in your corner because they were on your podcast and you connected with them.

You know, don't go to the meetups, don't join the online groups, invite these people and get an hour of their time. And then what I believe is the most beneficial point that people aren't talking about is make sure that that interaction between you and the guests continues on after the hour. Are you following them online?

Are you engaging with their content? Are you supporting. When they have a launch, are you posting it to social? Are you emailing them twice a year? And just saying, Hey, here's, what's going on with me. What's going on with you? You can develop these relationships that in my opinion, there's just no other world where you can have direct access to people like this.

And of course not, everyone's going to say yes to you, but starting a podcast is going to propel your brand and your career. Yeah.

And it is like a very cool, yeah.

[00:19:25] Corinne Foxx: actually even have your phone off? That's true. Good point. That is so true. You're so it's yeah, you have to be so present.

You're dedicated. Yeah. Wait, one thing I also wanted to bring up that you were saying, you know, just giving your example about being, maybe being in the motherhood space, like how important do you think it is to find your niche as well?

Okay. So I started with no niche other than talking to female entrepreneurs and we kind of separately, me and my sister found our own niche within that space. So. I don't necessarily think you need to have a super, super specific niche. I think that you need to have a clear brand and a clear message, but at the same token, I also think that evolves by putting yourself out there.

Right. Creating the content over and over and over again until you find what works for you and your community. Sometimes you think your community wants to hear you talk about motherhood when really they actually want to talk about your infertility journey and they really want you to go all in there.

So allowing space for what the community wants. Yeah.

[00:20:56] Corinne Foxx: so great about that with your brand. With me.

I just love like connecting with yeah. With everybody.

[00:21:05] Scout Sobel: Don't start a podcast. If you're not going to post every week, I get really tough love about that. I'm like, it's not worth it because podcast listeners are like TV listeners. I don't know why I keep using the bachelor cause I want to watch. But, you know, every Monday, I don't even think it's on Mondays anymore.

Every Monday, you know that at 9:00 PM, the bachelor is going to be on, or I know on Sunday night, the righteous gemstones are coming on or Friday shark tastes coming on. Like that's the type of ritualistic listening that podcast listeners get. So. Please. If you're going to start a podcast, just commit to doing it once a week or every other week, whatever feels good to you.

But consistency is the most important, important part. If you're going to start a podcast

Um, so you have the okay sales podcast. You've got emotional entrepreneur podcast. You have your book, emotional entrepreneur, but you're also the CEO of Scout's agency. It specializes in putting. Women on podcasts. So what are some like behind the scene tips that you might have for people that are listening?

And they're like, Ooh, like I kind of want to put myself out there in the podcasting space, but maybe they don't have the ability to have an agency or something. What are some little tips and tricks

They're just asking for advice. The first thing they say is I want to be on like Joe Rogan's podcast or something like that, or, you know, some of the really, really top podcasts. But I think if you've never been in the space, it is going to be to your benefit to go on smaller podcasts. First one, because you're probably going to be super fucking nervous.

I don't know what it is about. Every time someone goes on their first podcast, they like can't speak. They get really nervous. They're sweating. It's it's, it's something. I, my husband did. It was his first podcast and I was in the other room and I was like, oh, this is not. I go. And he came out and he was like, I have so much respect for you.

I was like, yeah, because your first one, you really get some stage fright. So go on the small one. Small ones first, do your research, find out what those are get really. I mean, it's very hard to be completely knowing what the landscape cause there's like millions of them. But look for podcasts that you feel as if they have a similar size audience to you or in a similar demographic or at similar places in your career and go after those one first, you can DM them.

Then you can email them. You can offer a swap. I have a podcast, but starting small and giving yourself time, you know, I've been in this space for over four years and just this year, did I start getting on top podcasts? You know, so give yourself time, give yourself practice. I promise you you'll be so happy if you've practice on a couple of smaller ones before you start pitching to bigger and bigger ones.

So that's what I would probably recommend to do for.

[00:24:18] Scout Sobel: side. We love it.

[00:24:31] Scout Sobel: Writing a book was my first career goal.

It's the first thing I remember wishing for a future version of myself. I was in elementary school when I just knew that I wanted to write a book with my other entrepreneurial pursuits. I am definitely guilty of jumping in without thinking when I have an idea that I want to go forward. But writing a book was something that I knew had to be done a certain way, and I had to come at the right point in my life.

That are creative. Non-fiction with a poetic prose. And she's like, no one wants to read your memoir. No one knows who you are. Like reassess it much sweeter than that. Um, but that's what she meant. And I said, okay, you're right. I'm. A Grammy nominated 65 year old retired person. Right. So I decided to really think about some of the motifs that I'd been talking about in my podcast.

Some of the things that I was really excited about kind of melding together. And I knew that I'm someone who writes really short things. So I've always been able to write short stories, but I've never been able to write long stories. So I knew that for my first book, I had to organize it in a way that was short thing.

So I said, okay, we're going to do a lot of chapters. I knew that for my first book. I didn't want it to go all in on one concept. I wanted it to be more of a broader general overview. So I started really thinking about. What is my unique point of view? What do I like talking about and what do I help people with when they come to me?

And it really was this intersection of mental health and business that I had started really talking about on my podcast earlier that year. So that's where the concept of the emotional entrepreneur came from. It's 25 lessons that are. Inspired by my journey, living with bipolar disorder since I was diagnosed at the age of 20 and it's emotional and mindset tools that I found myself needing and using in business.

So

[00:27:04] Scout Sobel: Yes, that's my favorite wine. Why? Because I feel very clever that I came up with that term.

Um, but I, I say this in the book, I was on the phone with my fine on the way to my office for Scott's agency. And she was extremely nervous because she had a job where she had two. Presents in a certain way. And whenever she had to present, it just, it ate her up inside. It wasn't in alignment with her. And she was really struggling with this part of her job.

And it was causing her a lot of anxiety that was really, really detrimental. And as she's talking to me about this, I'm realizing that I have anxiety not day two, because. I'm waiting for my client to email me back. And I'm like, I don't know if she liked what I did for her something. And then I realized I was like, wait a minute.

Like, we're both anxious, but the anxiety that you're having is regressing you backwards, or at least keeping you stagnant from being fulfilled while my anxiety is propelling me forward in a career that I love. So if we both have to experience anxiety, Don't you want that anxiety to move your life forward versus keep you going backwards or still are stagnant or stuck.

And so it was this aha moment for me that we will all have pain, no matter what we do, no matter if we are living out our purpose, no matter if we were in our dream career in our dream marriage. With our dream scenario, which I completely credit my life to today, I am living my absolute highest level of dream and pain will still come.

So the pain that you experience, if you have to experience pain, it should be propelling you forward. It should be because. You're uncomfortable to put yourself out there on a podcast, but you're going to, because you believe in the fact that you're going to be a food blogger one day, the pain that you experienced should be okay.

I'm going to invest in this coach right now, and I'd never invested this much money, but I know that I need the support in my business. That should be your anxiety. Your anxiety should not be. I don't want to walk through that door one more time. I don't want to open my inbox one more time. So if we all have to experience uncomfortable emotions, make sure and audit your emotions to align with something that is benefiting your future self.

So getting an ROI on, uh, on your pain means putting yourself in uncomfortable growth oriented situations that make you feel. Shitty like you want to throw up, like you have some doubt or you're not confident, or imposter syndrome comes up or you're afraid you're going to lose money, whatever it is. But you know, that those decisions are in pursuit of a better future.

Yeah,

[00:30:06] Scout Sobel: sounds like the coolest fucking thing in the entire world.

Right?

And the fact that I almost didn't go and I went to Italy by myself and it was just like, why

[00:30:42] Corinne Foxx: she was alone. And I, you know, and so it's like, I actually feel more fulfillment in the fact that I overcame those emotions than even accomplishing, you know, walking down.

Uh, I don't even know it was accomplishment to walk

[00:30:54] Scout Sobel: it's a fucking accomplishment to be a Dolce and Gabbana.

We talk a lot about mental health on the podcast. I'm curious why you think, or I guess how you prioritize your mental health as an entrepreneur and how you think other entrepreneurs can begin to prioritize their own mental health.

And I think Instagram was around for like a year to give you some context on the times. And I thought that I was crazy. I'm done for, I didn't think I was going to have a future psychiatrists and therapists didn't know if I was going to be able to function. I dropped out of college, flew home, went throughout Asia and patient.

Crazy, you know, suicidal ideation, psychosis, hypomania, a very long painful process with a medication that never worked and, and left me not great. And so for me, it wasn't until I found entrepreneurship that I saw. A framework that I could be successful in. So I quit every single job. I equipping a gelato, scooper, a hostess.

I was an intern at interview magazine C magazine. I took my classes at UCLA. I couldn't hold on to anything. And. Once I found entrepreneurship, it was like a light bulb switched. And all of a sudden I went from the girl who couldn't function to the girl who was overly functioning to the girl who couldn't stop to the girl who was excited and fulfilled and found something to fight for that was outside of herself because inside was a black shit hole, to be honest.

Right. So. Once I found entrepreneurship, I found that there was something in this lifetime that could excite me, but once I kind of walked down that path a little bit more significantly more specifically when I started Scouts agency and all of a sudden I was in charge of my financial situation. I was in charge of my husband's financial situation.

Since he's getting his PhD, I had employees, I was. And how emotional business was. And that was coming from someone who had been on a large healing from living with the mental illness that took her down. And so all of a sudden I realized that women weren't getting into the game. They weren't getting into the game.

Not because they didn't have resources, not because they didn't have the education, not because they didn't have the finances to fund huge things. Women weren't getting into the game because they were afraid of what other people would think they were afraid of their imposter syndrome. They had anxiety about, about uncertainty and revenue.

They couldn't figure out how to handle the unknown and walk out of a predictable, safe job to something that. Extremely uncertain and volatile a little time. So I recognized early on that I had gotten to a place where my mental health was stable. Ish. I could be functioning, but I had to master my mental health on a level that I didn't even anticipate if I wanted my business to move forward.

So the reason I grew my agency to a six figure agency in year one was not because I know anything about sales and marketing. I've never even worked in the PR space before. I've never been in a client-based industry. I had no idea what I was doing, but the reason I did it was because I looked at my people pleasing tendencies.

And I said, if I don't get these under control, and if I don't learn how to set boundaries around my clients, and if I don't learn that I'm worthy of the results that I'm getting. And if I don't learn how to have a healthy relationship with someone that is paying me to do something, my business will burn to the ground.

Okay. So I have intense people pleasing. Where does that come from? And how far into my childhood is that rooted? And that's what I prioritized in the beginning, not reading every sales book, which you know, what I was doing as well. But for me, I recognize that entrepreneurs are successful when they handle manage and tend to their mental.

And if you don't, yes, you can be successful, but I promise you, your success will be 10 times fold that the paths will be clear. The channels will be open. The energy will be aligned when you feel emotionally secure, confident, and stable within your business. So for me, entrepreneurship is a mental health game.

It's not a numbers game, it's a mental health game. And so that's, that's where I was like, okay, God gave me this mental illness to prepare me for this moment.

[00:35:55] Corinne Foxx: There's so much gratitude around to yeah. And I love how you were so aware of like, yes, I could read the sales book. Yes. I could do all the research, but if I don't understand how I react to things and how I come into this space, I'm not going to be successful. And I think having that deep understanding of yourself, which continues forever, right.

We keep changing, right. Is such an important part of your business plan.

And so a lot of what I do here is psychology. How do we let these women know that we are behind them, not in a way where the boundaries aren't placed and we're working over our contract and we're, you know, that's unhealthy, how can we put up supportive boundaries so that they know we got them, that they got them, that their account is making progress, that there's support all around and that they're heard.

So. There's so many moments in business that have nothing to do with results or how much money someone makes or what an ROI is or who placed what order, but rather just emotionally, are we all on the same wavelength? Yeah.

Like, and I think that that's, you have to being like a boss

[00:37:33] Natalie McMillan: whatever. Like you have to have those tools in place to be good at that type of position, you know?

I had a team member come to me and just say, I need your emotional support right now. Like I. Feeling worthy of this, or I'm not feeling as if I'm managing this right. And coming to me so openly and transparently about the struggles they're having in their work. That always go back to something emotional.

It's never, that they're not capable. It's more that they're not sure that they, that they're worthy of the type of results that they're already getting and whatever it is. Right. And we sit and we have an honest conversation. We go into a meditation and we talk about how we can reframe this and how we can find the self-confidence to move forward.

And we look at the evidence of our capabilities that our track records, and we break through that imposter syndrome together by. I don't think many businesses, the CEO is leading their team through meditation and telling them they're worthy. And you know, like, I don't think that happens most

[00:38:57] Scout Sobel: the boss that

I will strive to me at the end of every okay. SIS podcast episode. You always ask if you could brag about one thing in your life and don't be humble. What would you brag about? So we want to flip it onto you and ask you the same

What's coming to mind right now is my marriage. I've been with my husband for 10 years and he was the catalyst for me, healing and changing. And it's hard to be with someone with a mental illness and everybody gets this version of me. The one that's kind of walked through the fire and then can talk about the wisdom and the lessons that I learned, but the fact that him and I have chosen each other every single day, regardless of the challenges that we face is pretty extraordinary.

I like to think that what I build here is just me, but without him, none of this happens. So, and I

[00:40:24] Scout Sobel: I it's the first thing that came to mind because I was like, oh, like, you're bragged about. My business, but that's yeah.

And so, wow. I hope to be able to say that I'm with my. Boyfriend it'll be my husband

[00:40:51] Natalie McMillan: has stood by you. And so my gosh,

[00:40:53] Scout Sobel: sweet. Oh, we're declaring it right here. Now. You just said it out loud. So yeah. Hey, we're manifesting

Every woman has a baby nameless on their phone. I mean like, and that is it's very high

[00:41:22] Corinne Foxx: You're a hundred percent invited. You are a hundred percent invited. Of course,

[00:41:27] Scout Sobel: name? Adam.

We stand at him.

All right, we'll let you go. But

[00:41:38] Scout Sobel: you. Thank you ladies. And

[00:41:44] Scout Sobel: Well,

going

[00:42:03] Natalie McMillan: Yes. And then I was really thinking like good thing that you've always been such a stickler on.

Always having an episode. I'm

[00:42:15] Natalie McMillan: it's important to you. Well, yeah, to me, it's like, if, if the shit hit the fan or something, I'd be like, ah, you know, it's, we can miss a week.

Make magic happen with my schedule. I'll be like, oh, I'm going to be, I don't have time for those four weeks. So let's record eight episodes today

[00:42:35] Corinne Foxx: We have. So we hope that you guys learn more about scout, everything that she's doing, why it's important to have a podcast strategy, the importance of balancing your work with your mental health and how to emotionally.

Entrepreneurship or just any job that you're in. Yeah, we really do like have a responsibility. I think. When you're showing up in a workspace to also like, be the best version of yourself, you know? Cause you affect so many people and like she's the CEO of this company. And if she didn't show up her best self, like that's, there's such a trickle down effect

And also the self awareness because people that are not self-aware and don't work on their own mental health and themselves project a lot. So imagine being an employee of somebody who projects all their shit on to you.

[00:43:22] Natalie McMillan: a lot of people's reality. It's a most people's realities, I think, which is unfortunate, which is unfortunate, but I feel like women in our little demographic here, we're changing the

If you guys have a shitty boss, Oh, you could sit in this episode, like, oh my God, I love that. Or send your team like, oh my God, such a great episode. Learned so many

[00:43:42] Corinne Foxx: mental health

[00:43:45] Corinne Foxx: Oh, okay. Okay. Now let's circle back on this. What does it Luna?

2020 Pinot Grigio. Napa valley

[00:44:00] Natalie McMillan: Gosh, I'm excited about our hotties it's Mary, Kate, and Ashley, big time entrepreneurs left the acting

[00:44:10] Natalie McMillan: mental health. Oh, I'm sure. And I also love that. They're just

Literally leave me alone, leave

[00:44:29] Corinne Foxx: also. Oh, wait, which is your family friend? Yes. Good old Trent, but Elizabeth is Elizabeth Olson.

Yeah. So Hey fun fact. We love them. Yeah. We love Mary Kay nationally, but do we love the wine?

[00:44:48] Scout Sobel: Ha, I

[00:44:53] Natalie McMillan: mouth. It's a lot happening. It's a lot of notes. Is it spicy? Is it spicy to you? This is a white wine.

It's a white wine. That is, I'm confused by it. To be honest, I'm confused by it. I don't it's like I can't, I couldn't. I mean, it's this an unreadable Warner? I'm wondering like, oh, let me take one more step.

[00:45:35] Natalie McMillan: interesting where you have to keep drinking it.

You're like

[00:45:39] Natalie McMillan: happening right now? Yeah.

[00:45:45] Natalie McMillan: think we've had one other one on the show. I'm going to give it a six as well. That's going to stay very

[00:45:54] Natalie McMillan: experience. Cause it's like, is my mouth bleeding?

I don't know. I think it'd be good in the summer.

[00:46:05] Natalie McMillan: Yeah. You guys need to

all right. This is the part of the show. We play a little wrap up game, and this week we're doing our racism obsession. I want songs for are. I don't know what

[00:46:39] Corinne Foxx: does in a jingle. We will lit I will learn how to do a backflip.

Yeah, same. And I'll put it on the

[00:46:47] Corinne Foxx: Okay. So now what is your recent obsession? I have

[00:46:51] Corinne Foxx: between. It's actually called recent obsessions. Okay. Grizzly S at the end

Those are good trader

[00:47:12] Natalie McMillan: I don't know it, but I do know that I eat two to three bags of. It's that

[00:47:19] Corinne Foxx: I'm going to go to trader Joe's after this, you

I didn't

[00:47:34] Natalie McMillan: those ones were, I gave you the spicy ones. I didn't

[00:47:39] Natalie McMillan: Oh, what did I give you? The regular ones are the spicy spices. Oh, the regular ones. I liked them a lot. Okay. You'll like the car, it's like a Pirate's booty, but it's like, so that's my first random recent obsession.

And then my other one more random. I love the tooth emoji. It is so cute. And I would love to find more ways to incorporate it.

[00:48:09] Natalie McMillan: you know, I found a dentist that will. Tickling my teeth.

[00:48:14] Natalie McMillan: because I will throw up

I mean, at least partially you want laughing gas?

Perhaps

[00:48:39] Corinne Foxx: this. This sounds like she is getting a root canal or something. By annual I leaning. Here's the

[00:48:49] Natalie McMillan: because I had so many traumatic tooth experiences as a child. I can't, it's like ingrained in my D I, you needed

[00:48:58] Natalie McMillan: on end or something. You know, I had a root canal when I was

I understand that. But this is holding you back. We can go back to your recent obsessions. You could use the tooth emoji when you texted me. Hey, can you drive me to the.

I want to get a tattoo of a tooth. I don't

[00:49:24] Natalie McMillan: amazing shiny tea, then me,

[00:49:30] Natalie McMillan: young for the podcast year. I'll show you the truth real quick.

Okay. Like how cute is the tooth?

[00:49:41] Scout Sobel: looks a little legs.

[00:49:45] Scout Sobel: Love it.

[00:49:51] Corinne Foxx: Okay. So mine is actually another podcast that I am obsessed with.

You have, I think you've already listened to all of it. Crime junkie. Oh,

Oh,

So I should know better, but I love it. If you guys are into true crime and just want these quick little one out. 30 minute long, horrific story, always horrific jump over to

Oh, Noonan.

[00:50:43] Natalie McMillan: do you charge him with murder? Because, but the guy asked him to do it. It was this big, complicated

So those guys are doing a short film and this guy goes missing. Right? And so they, the last place this guy was supposed to be was at this, whatever at the shed that this guy lived, that he was never a shed. He was like, oh, I don't know who this guy is. You know, do you want to read my screenplay? The screenplay was.

About this guy who poses as women on the internet and Laura's guys into his shed and then chops them up until a little bit, and then, um, like hides their body. And they were like, sir, did you do this woman on the internet and shop this dude up in the little pieces? And he was like, no, what are you talking about?

And it was like very specific. Like he uses a mask and they like found

[00:51:46] Natalie McMillan: you like that? That's kind of funny. Somebody died. I mean, of course it's not, you know, not funny, but it's just ironic. Oh, it was very, very

[00:51:57] Corinne Foxx: literally spelled out, but it was a screenplay.

He was like,

Did you do this? Oh, well that's

[00:52:35] Natalie McMillan: No. And I'm thinking maybe, I don't know if we can do it cause it's a desktop, but in the title of this week, maybe we can have a tooth emoji.

Oh.

[00:52:44] Natalie McMillan: that. I'll try that out. See if we can give it a shot, if it makes it

I'm like what? Never, never, never. And we will be back next week with another episode. Love you. Love you guys. Bye .