Hey Upper East Siders and all you scandal-loving listeners out there! Welcome back to the Non Judging Breakfast Pod, where the coffee is strong, the waffles are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than ever. Join Leif, your seasoned Gossip Girl veteran, and Steve, the newbie diving into the Upper East Side for the first time.
This week, we dive into Gossip Girl season 2, episode 1, titled “Summer, Kind of Wonderful.” Original air date: September 1, 2008.
Summary
In this conversation, the hosts discuss the events of Season 2, Episode 1 of Gossip Girl, titled 'Summer, Kind of Wonderful.' They delve into the complexities of Nate's secret affair with an older woman, Serena's fake relationship with Nate, and the resulting drama that unfolds. Blair's attempts to make Chuck jealous with her new boyfriend James, who has a surprising secret, add another layer of intrigue. The episode also highlights the struggles of Jenny in the fashion world and Dan's summer escapades, including his unexpected reunion with Serena. The hosts analyze the character dynamics, the writing, and the directing, and they share their predictions for the upcoming season. They also discuss the fashion highlights and give their episode grades. The hosts encourage listeners to join the conversation on social media and announce the upcoming episode review.
00:00 Introduction and Discussion of Nate's Affair
07:41 The Fake Relationship Between Serena and Nate
10:15 Blair's New Boyfriend James
21:20 Chuck's Jealousy and Heartbreak
25:38 Jenny's Struggles in the Fashion World
29:27 Dan's Summer Escapades
32:22 Dan and Serena's Reunion
57:06 Analyzing the Writing, Directing, and Acting
59:54 Fashion Highlights and Podcast Recommendations
01:06:26 Looking Ahead: Season Two Predictions
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Edited and mixed by Leif Capicola.
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Yeah, I'm just gonna bring. Yeah, I'm just gonna come stay at your place and
Steve:bring my. My boyfriend and fucking your
Steve:bed.
Steve:You mind if we fucking the
Steve:loft, where you're gonna come home and sleep?
Steve:Okay, I'll change the sheets.
Leif:They didn't change.
Steve:They didn't change the sheets.
Leif:Hey, upper east siders and all you scandal loving listeners out
Leif:there, you just tuned into the non judging breakfast
Leif:pod, where the coffee is strong, the
Leif:waffles are freshen, and the gossip is hotter than
Leif:ever. My name is Leif, and I'm, your seasoned
Leif:gossip girl veteran.
Steve:And I'm Steve, your newbie, your
Steve:greenhorn. You're, I don't know, Leif. What do you call
Steve:the new kid on the block in gossip girl terms?
Leif:Well, Steve, we're off to season two, so I think
Leif:you're ready to be upgraded to minion status.
Steve:Oh, wow. That's. That is,
Steve:joyous now that Blair seems to be getting right
Steve:back on top. So, it's a good time to be,
Steve:moving upward.
Leif:Sounds good.
Steve:Yeah. Take that, Jenny.
Steve:All right, so here's the deal,
Steve:folks. We have
Steve:a whole podcast we're doing here. Here's the deal,
Steve:folks. Leap is a gossip girl veteran,
Steve:and I'm diving in for the first time. And we,
Steve:together, we're your dynamic duo, bringing you all
Steve:the romance, drama, and
Steve:sometimes questionable fashion choices of this
Steve:iconic 2007 series.
Leif:That's right. Each week, we'll be going through one episode
Leif:at a time, taking a deep dive. we're going to analyze
Leif:all the parallels, obscure references, and,
Leif:of course, the couture catastrophes. And
Leif:also we're going to take a look at some of the behind the scenes gossip and some
Leif:stories from fandom along the way.
Steve:And since we're all about inclusivity here at the non judging
Steve:breakfast pod, there is always room for you at the non
Steve:judging breakfast table. So please
Steve:grab a cup of coffee or a mimosa or some of
Steve:Nate and Chuck's special medicine, and let's get into
Steve:this episode.
Leif:By the time you guys are listening to this, we'll probably have already gone on our
Leif:second trip. But, we just, as of the recording,
Leif:had our first yak life trip of the season.
Leif:That was fun. We had a new record. 36
Leif:paddlers with 35 boats.
Steve:That's awesome.
Leif:Exciting. Yeah. Up on the upper Delaware river,
Leif:and I was, right on the border of New York and
Leif:Pennsylvania. So one side river is New York, one side is
Leif:Pennsylvania, and there's a couple
Leif:of friends of the pod there, we had Shannon, who was
Leif:a guest in episode 17, and I found
Leif:out my other friend Will is actually a listener. So shout
Leif:outs to Will.
Steve:All right, nice. Thanks, Will.
Leif:Shout out to Will.
Steve:yeah, we actually play d and d with some of the other
Steve:folks that were there. I was really excited because
Steve:I, killed Dan this week
Steve:in our d and d game. And it's,
Steve:you know, as a dm, I, don't ever really
Steve:set out to kill people, but it's so satisfying
Steve:when it happens. And, you know, I had a.
Steve:I had a gollum just grab him and
Steve:then grind the shit out of him, and he got
Steve:free, and they were all excited when
Steve:he landed the killing blow and killed the thing,
Steve:and then it exploded into shrapnel and
Steve:basically just eviscerated him. He made his
Steve:save.
Leif:So, another thing. So after I got back from my trip and I was
Leif:super tired on Monday, I tried once again
Leif:to fill a gap in my teen
Leif:drama knowledge in,
Leif:920. I've never gotten past, like, the 10th
Leif:episode.
Steve:Oh, really? The original?
Leif:Yes, the original.
Steve:Oh, wow.
Leif:And, yes, I watched, like, three episodes.
Leif:And thank God for
Leif:blatant Meestro. Pam Badgley, Blake
Leif:Lively, Ed Westwick, Chase Crawford, Kelly
Leif:Rutherford, Taylor Mumpsey. Cause the acting is
Leif:so bad. It's so bad. Not a tuna.
Steve:I remember when 90210
Steve:1st aired, I
Steve:watched the pilot.
Leif:Yeah, I did watch an episode here or there when it
Leif:was on, and I just never really got into it. I was a little too young
Leif:for it at the time.
Steve:Yeah, I was the exact
Steve:right age for that show. That was. That was
Steve:like the. The early nineties
Steve:when I was in high school and really was the target
Steve:audience for it. I. I remember my
Steve:friend and I, every time
Steve:Kelly would come on screen, we would
Steve:do the, the Lenny from Lenny and
Steve:squiggy, where he would bite the inside of his
Steve:hand because we both thought that she was
Steve:a pretty lady. and you also.
Steve:And you also had Tori spelling, who, like, in a sea
Steve:of bad acting, was the
Steve:vortex that made everybody
Steve:else, like, look better. Yeah, she was
Steve:the vanessa of that show. And
Steve:Andrea, who, like,
Steve:narc. What are you doing here,
Steve:Narcisse? Why is this 40 year old at, this
Steve:beach pit?
Leif:They were all 40, but she.
Steve:She was, like, legit. She. They were all in their twenties, and she
Steve:was in her thirties and also was the one that
Steve:really looked, like, older than the rest of
Steve:them.
Leif:So we are here, to talk about gossip girl today.
Steve:Oh, that's right.
Leif:Season two.
Steve:Season two.
Leif:We made it.
Steve:Yeah, I'm. I'm really
Steve:thrilled. I'm thrilled we
Steve:made it. I'm excited to
Steve:talk about the episode, too.
Leif:The, Caesar premiere is titled
Leif:Summer kind of wonderful.
Steve:Yes. is this our first Corey's
Steve:reference? It's a
Steve:Corey movie. Corey Haim and Corey
Steve:Feldman. I feel like there may have been another
Steve:one in there. Was there a lost boys one or something like
Steve:that?
Leif:Yeah, there's the lost weekend. That wasn't the episode.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Yeah, I think this might be the first one.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, the quarries. I loved
Steve:this movie.
Leif:I've never seen it.
Steve:Oh, I. Yeah, this was one of those.
Steve:I saw it. But then also, it would
Steve:just be on all the time, like one of
Steve:those random Sunday afternoon movies.
Steve:So I've seen this movie
Steve:not in its entirety, over and over
Steve:again, but, like, in bits and pieces.
Steve:I've seen it in its entirety several times.
Leif:So the original air date was September
Leif:1, 2008. Nothing really
Leif:special about that date, but, yeah.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Television without pity. Episode description
Leif:reads awkward. Doesn't just
Leif:describe the tortured syntax of the episode title.
Leif:Serena's playing Nate's beard once again while wailing
Leif:for Dan to come back and tell her exactly who to
Leif:be. Blairs coming close to embarrassing
Leif:herself trying to make Chuck jealous. It's
Leif:working. Dan once again shows up somewhere
Leif:awesome, uninvited and most awkward
Leif:and fantastically awesome of all, Jenny and Eric
Leif:get to party with. Wait for it.
Leif:Tinsley Mortimer. Fuck, yes.
Leif:You know I o m f g x o x o
Leif:u. Gossip girl.
Steve:It's a very enthusiastic,
Steve:endorsement for Tinsley Mortimer,
Steve:who was made fun of in the previous season. Yes.
Leif:And her acting was not too greatness.
Steve:No, it was terrible.
Steve:Robin flipped out, though, because Robin
Steve:recognized who she was immediately.
Leif:Episode written by Josh Saffron.
Leif:Previous episodes from season one were 17
Leif:candles, high society and woman on the
Leif:verge.
Steve:If, I remember correctly, that's b a b. When we both
Steve:gave the same, like, b plus
Steve:minuses.
Leif:Yeah, the first two were. We were right on the line.
Leif:B plus is an a. And then,
Leif:you did a b, and I did a b minus for women on the
Leif:verge.
Steve:Okay. Yeah.
Leif:I did not write down what Shannon gave that episode of.
Leif:I think it was a b. Yeah, I think it was
Leif:directed, by J. Miller Tobin,
Leif:who, previously directed Poison ivy and Blair
Leif:bitch project. Of course. Poison
Leif:ivy, past episode of the season.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:And then we actually did this, apparently, like, Blair
Leif:bitch project even beat. You gave it a b plus. I gave it a b.
Leif:Yeah.
Steve:Yeah. And that's the one that.
Leif:That first episode after the writers strike.
Steve:Yeah, yeah. Okay,
Steve:right.
Leif:That was after, you know,
Leif:everything came out with. Yeah. Chuck and
Leif:Nate. And then Blair
Leif:was, you know, a ruined woman. Yeah.
Leif:At 17.
Steve:And it was also. It was also
Steve:where Georgina started sending messages
Steve:to Serena.
Leif:Yeah.
Steve:So we got our.
Leif:And we got the big tonal shift there.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:But, yeah. Still a decent episode.
Steve:Yeah, it was, except, yeah.
Steve:Yeah, it was the last one before she showed
Steve:up.
Leif:So the episode begins, as always, with a
Leif:gossip girl monologue. Unlike the
Leif:rest of us, sex, lies and scandal never take
Leif:a vacation. Instead, they take the Long island
Leif:expressway and head east to the hamptons.
Leif:Some would say summer is the busiest season.
Leif:Think Park Avenue, but with tennis whites
Leif:and bain du Soleil. The players
Leif:change, but the game remains the same
Leif:as Gossip girl monologues. We see Nate getting hot and heavy
Leif:in a car with a mysterious older woman. We find out
Leif:that this relationship is secret, and Serena is
Leif:covering for Nate. Seems like the woman is the one with
Leif:something to hide.
Steve:Yeah. I mean, Josh Schwartz, way to
Steve:kick the season off with statutory rape.
Leif:Technically, it's legal.
Steve:And, you know, because this whole scene, you have
Steve:that intro that you're like.
Leif:But, yes, it is.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:As we find out later, it is very uncomfortable.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. And at first, you have the, It
Steve:was funny. Cause at first it was like, that's not
Steve:Serena, is it? And then it's like, no, it isn't.
Steve:And then I was like, kinda old. Well,
Steve:but that's par for the course.
Steve:That was my thought was like, she does look older,
Steve:but, like, who? Like, how many people have been
Steve:cast in this show that are like, well.
Leif:I say it was Hollywood. Yeah. You have to be
Leif:between 20 and, like, 32.
Leif:And then you play everything from
Leif:15 to 40.
Steve:Yeah, exactly. And,
Steve:you know, especially when we were just talking about
Steve:Andrea from 90210, and we were. And,
Steve:like, what's his name? That was Jenny's
Steve:boyfriend at the end. Yeah. Asher, who
Steve:looks like he's 25. So to me, it was like,
Steve:oh, yeah. Well, this is probably just some
Steve:teenager.
Leif:That may be a college girl or something.
Steve:Yeah, exactly.
Leif:yes. but then we see Chuck is lounging on the
Leif:beach, apparently back to his old self. He
Leif:convinces his three companions to go top us on what looks
Leif:like a public beach. And Chuck gets a
Leif:blast about Blair coming home from France. Chuck
Leif:momentarily appears to have heart before
Leif:returning, being gross. Serena, alone walks by, looking
Leif:disgusted by Chuck.
Steve:As per usual, he's
Steve:Chuck bass. I mean, it
Steve:was yeah. Chuck being
Steve:everything we've, we've expected him to
Steve:be. So he was just Chuck being
Steve:Chuck.
Leif:Next we see, we find a not so
Leif:lonely boy macking with a cute, random girl in a
Leif:bookstore. Dan is preparing for his future
Leif:job when he changes his name to Joe Goldberg
Leif:Evangeline. A bookstore? What would you. Where you see that
Leif:before?
Steve:actually, I don't know the reference.
Leif:You haven't seen you?
Steve:No, I haven't. I do know. I know that he was in it,
Steve:but, no, I have not actually seen you.
Leif:You really need to watch that.
Steve:Okay, well, I'll get on that.
Steve:it was also just, where did this
Steve:Dan come from? who, like, had no
Steve:friends. Nobody knew him, nobody talked to him. That
Steve:was the whole funny thing about him, was that he was
Steve:a nobody, and now he's just like.
Steve:But again, it was like, you know, you get out of that
Steve:relationship and then you start opening up.
Leif:So, I mean, and there is
Leif:kind of a truth to that. In high school.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Once you date the one hot girl,
Leif:it can open the floodgates.
Steve:Yeah. Well, and you get that confidence, after
Steve:dating someone for the first time,
Steve:there's one of two feelings after a breakup, and
Steve:there's either you get
Steve:the, wow, that really sucks, and
Steve:I'm never going to have that again. But then
Steve:there's also that. No, I'll have something else
Steve:down the line. And when you're in high school, it's a
Steve:lot harder to recognize that.
Leif:And Dan spent the summer interning for a famous
Leif:author, but he is suffering from writer's block before he can go home to
Leif:work his piece, we see Dan kiss a completely
Leif:different girl.
Steve:Jacques. Yeah, he's total
Steve:player now. Like, all right,
Steve:Dan.
Leif:Yeah, he learned from Chuck, I guess.
Steve:Yeah, yeah. And, yeah,
Steve:he. The exact kind of behavior that
Steve:he has. Well, of course, Chuck also
Steve:had other behaviors that upset Dan.
Leif:Yeah, everything's consensual, so.
Steve:Yeah, exactly.
Leif:He's single. It's free to do what he wants. At, Eleanor
Leif:Waldorf's design, little J is being put through her
Leif:paces by Eleanor's second in command, Laurel.
Leif:Laurel scored a best outfit in her lone episode
Leif:in season one, courtesy of yours truly. And
Leif:Jenny tries to put her designs forward, but Laurel just
Leif:laughs in her face. Look out, little J.
Leif:The mean girls in the real world might be worse than the ones in
Leif:Constance.
Steve:Like, so. So, yeah, Laurel was a complete
Steve:asshole. you know, she was really shitty
Steve:toward Jenny. But also, what
Steve:the fuck were you thinking bringing
Steve:your designs to?
Leif:Like, you're like, well, I mean, she is an
Leif:intern. I mean, that's. I would think that's kind of something
Leif:an intern would do. You know, you try to
Leif:learn to. I mean, honestly, working for free, you
Leif:should be getting something out of it.
Steve:Yeah, I just kind of figure, like, my.
Steve:My notion of unpaid
Steve:internships like, that are, like, you're
Steve:sewing hems and, like, sorting buttons like
Steve:they had her doing and not. You're like, you're not
Steve:here. Like, you're here to learn not
Steve:to get. Not to get
Steve:somewhere at the same time.
Leif:I think this was pretty close to the same time
Leif:when the devil wears Prada came out. So, like,
Leif:the bitch fashionista stare at
Leif:all the rage then.
Steve:Yeah, and I get that. And, I mean, they've laced that
Steve:throughout this from. From the start. You know,
Steve:Eleanor is not. Is not a pleasant
Steve:person, you know?
Leif:Or.
Steve:I shouldn't say that, but she is a very in
Steve:command person when she is in
Steve:charge, and I. You know, Laurel was
Steve:shitty. I also just kind of was
Steve:like, you know, jenny, you just made a
Steve:dress at home on a sewing machine, and you expect,
Steve:like, somebody who's, like, really high in the fashion
Steve:industry to wear it to a major event. I thought that
Steve:was a little, lofty.
Leif:This is where just, like, with dad's writing, when we see
Leif:little snippets of it, we have to
Leif:suspend this belief. We have to just accept that
Leif:Jenny is, like, this genius designer.
Steve:That's fair. That's fair.
Leif:So back at the loft, Jenny gets to work
Leif:on her button assignment, and she and Dan
Leif:discuss dinner plans. Allison's in town,
Leif:but thankfully, we don't see her. Jenny asks
Leif:about the big breakup, and then Dan leaves to get
Leif:food.
Steve:Yeah, they're all, Alison's at South
Steve:Pacific. And, yes,
Steve:thank you for not making a cameo.
Leif:But good that they explain that the kids are just
Leif:living by themselves all summer.
Steve:Rufus isn't just on tour.
Leif:Yeah, but the real reason. They probably just didn't want to pay the
Leif:actress to come back.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Back at the Hamptons, Serena calls Chuck
Leif:out about prepping for Blair's return.
Leif:Serena thinks he has no chance with
Leif:Blaire. Chuck comes back with a burn. That about
Leif:Serena being alone and in a fake relationship,
Leif:that's got a sting.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. And I also
Steve:love in this that. Well, first of
Steve:all, Chuck's hair is
Steve:awful.
Leif:I thought it was much better this season.
Steve:Oh, I thought it was awful in that swing, that
Steve:scene where it was, like, all slicked down and, like,
Steve:I. Yeah, I actually hated
Steve:that. But I also love that he
Steve:sees right through Nate and Serena. Like.
Steve:Like, he's. And when we also know Gossip girl
Steve:sees through it, too, because gossip girl had even
Steve:said, like, yeah, they're so hot and
Steve:heavy. Why is she always alone and he's always Mia?
Leif:Blair arrives on the bus. What?
Leif:WTF? Smiles, knowing they had
Leif:Chuck and her as her new boyfriend exits after
Leif:her. Oh, poor Chucky. Ain't karma
Leif:a bitch? We know Blair Waldorf is
Leif:Chuck.
Steve:Does that, like Batman sling off the
Steve:screen, too?
Leif:Oh, yeah. this is definitely the season of,
Leif:Batman for. For Chuck.
Steve:He is vengeance.
Leif:everything he says from now on is pretty much all
Leif:whispers. The rest of the series,
Leif:he just whispers. And it's the. It's the COVID
Leif:of the bridge taxi. Because, he did slip up, like, once or twice
Leif:in season one.
Steve:Wow. I. You know, I never actually picked up on
Steve:it.
Leif:So that is the end of the first act, and we move into act
Leif:two. Blair and Serena are poolside discussing
Leif:Serena's lack of summer romance. Blair is bringing the
Leif:quips. A hot lifeguard is the legacy kleenex.
Leif:Use once and throw away. And the
Leif:only thing lamer than dating Dan Humphrey is.
Steve:Morning.
Leif:Dan humphrey.
Steve:Yeah. Robin actually loved the kleenex
Steve:analogy. She, cracked up with that. She
Steve:also loved the. The sitting shiva
Steve:reference. And she said the reason you're
Steve:still sitting shiva, for Dan
Steve:Humphrey, is that you haven't found somebody to get over
Steve:him.
Leif:Chuck walks by, and Blair instantly switches gears
Leif:to talking about her new boyfriend Jane's.
Leif:We then find out Chuck has the rando from the
Leif:finale, fired. Sounds like James is coming
Leif:to family dinner. Blair says she has to pick
Leif:up something from Nate first. I recognize blair's
Leif:skinny face when I see it.
Steve:It's funny because I can't help but think that
Steve:this dude from the season
Steve:finale just got fired
Steve:because the. The message boards were
Steve:like, no, this dude stupid. And so it's like,
Steve:well, shit, I guess Chuck's gonna have him
Steve:fired, and he's gonna introduce Blair to someone else.
Leif:Yep.
Steve:Also, a little bit on. On
Steve:Leighton Meester and her acting, we. We
Steve:talk about it all the time.
Steve:She's. Blair is really
Steve:bad at pretending and really bad at
Steve:being awkward. And
Steve:to me, it's one of those acting tricks. It's
Steve:actually a lot harder to do
Steve:in that kind of moment to
Steve:be a good actor and then acting
Steve:badly. It's sort of like
Steve:a singer trying to sing out of key. Or
Steve:like the scene in the jerk where Steve Martin
Steve:can't. Can't keep time
Steve:to intentionally be off
Steve:beat or off time is actually
Steve:more difficult than actually keeping the
Steve:rhythm sometimes. Or so like this.
Steve:This is just another one of those display of acting
Steve:chops where her bad acting is
Steve:actually really good acting.
Leif:M. Yeah,
Leif:shut. Rufus is on the tour
Leif:bus talking to Jenny. They are worried about Dan.
Leif:Rufus tries to encourage Jenny in her fashion
Leif:career, and Jack Jackson catches a stray in the
Leif:process. Rufus, suggests reaching out to
Leif:Eric for help getting. Getting into the white party.
Steve:Yeah. It was also nice that Rufus
Steve:did a little bit of parenting here. You know, it was nice
Steve:to see. I felt like it was the old Rufus
Steve:again, being, like, the good dad,
Steve:even from a distance. And, like, it's
Steve:funny because you almost get the sense that they're getting more
Steve:parenting from him on the road than they are from
Steve:Alison, who's there, who's
Steve:fucking the.
Leif:The neighbor still?
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. Who's. Who's, like, out on a
Steve:date with her boyfriend that she is still
Steve:with.
Leif:That's cr. Like, was he living there with
Leif:them? That's kind of weird. I don't know.
Steve:I had that thought. Like, is he. Does he also have his own
Steve:place? Because, like, if I'm Rufus,
Steve:right? And, like,
Steve:yeah, I'm just gonna bring. Yeah, I'm just gonna come stay at your
Steve:place and bring my. My boyfriend and fucking
Steve:your bedev.
Steve:You mind if we fucking the loft,
Steve:where you're gonna come home and sleep?
Steve:okay. I'll change the sheets.
Leif:They didn't change the sheets.
Steve:They didn't change the sheets.
Leif:Dan walks into a bar to meet with his boss,
Leif:who proceeds to fire Dan after he continues to make
Leif:excuses about night writing his story.
Steve:I love that Dan gets that taste of the industry, too,
Steve:that both Jenny and Dan, who
Steve:had these, who both have
Steve:a fantasy of working in
Steve:these high pressure,
Steve:you know, type of, type of careers where Jenny wants
Steve:to be in the fashion industry and Dan wants to be a writer.
Steve:And now they're both getting a taste of what that really
Steve:means. And it is, shut up and
Steve:do your job. And it is,
Steve:do your job or you're not going to have one. M.
Steve:which, of course, like, the shut up and do your job aspect
Steve:of Jenny. We know how that plays out, but
Steve:that is a lot of what the fashion industry
Steve:is going to be. That's, you know,
Steve:what internships often are.
Leif:And it is, I think it's good setup for what's going to come
Leif:from the season for both. Eric takes a call from
Leif:jenny. Eric makes her squirm for a minute before
Leif:forgiving her and agreeing to help.
Steve:Speaker one. I love this. I loved this
Steve:reconnection. I love how eric played it. I
Steve:love how it just felt so true to
Steve:who Eric is. He's just. And, you know, I don't
Steve:have a lot of friends, and so I need every backstabbing,
Steve:lying one that I can have. Like, he said that.
Steve:How do you deliver that line with so much love?
Steve:Is. Is so. It was
Steve:so great. And I really loved that reconnection.
Leif:I also did like seeing him with, hanging out with Chuck and Nate as
Leif:well.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. I loved eric's
Steve:presence in this episode. Yeah. The later
Steve:scene with them, is fantastic.
Leif:The lifeguard shows up to pick up Serena
Leif:in a chimera. Ew.
Steve:Not ironically, an
Steve:unironic camaro.
Leif:Serena reminds Blair to keep up Nate's cover
Leif:story that he and Serena are dating.
Leif:So let's get into this cover story.
Leif:I don't get it. Are, all three of them hanging out for some
Leif:reason? Why do they need this cover
Leif:story?
Steve:Yeah. Why? Yeah. Like,
Steve:Nate. Nate. I get Nate needing a cover
Steve:story to keep off of the back of.
Steve:Like, he's dating a married woman, but,
Steve:like, Serena.
Leif:But they're not dating. They're just fucking.
Steve:But they're just fucking. Yeah.
Leif:They're not together anywhere else.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. It is just a secret
Steve:hookup.
Leif:So why do they need to cover? Yeah, it makes more sense for
Leif:Serena. Cause she doesn't wanna get hit on constantly right
Leif:now.
Steve:Exactly. She would be. And the fact
Steve:that only one dude hits on her, and it's this lifeguard
Steve:who she could not give a shit
Steve:about. She is so not
Steve:interested in this date.
Leif:Yeah.
Steve:And it's funny because I feel like this
Steve:date was only written in to
Steve:have them talk about the Nate
Steve:relationship and the Nate, you know,
Steve:shoe front, this whole thing. And I say that
Steve:because later on, they definitely have a continuity
Steve:error where Serena talks about how
Steve:great, James was
Steve:at brunch that Serena wasn't at.
Leif:I missed that. Speaking of Nate, is
Leif:once again getting hot and heavy with the older woman from
Leif:before. How much older and how married is
Leif:she?
Steve:Too old and too married is my note.
Leif:Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:But, yeah, we. We start to get inklings of the, This
Leif:is probably someone that's much older and
Leif:probably in a relationship.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:So. Guy.
Steve:Well, I think at this point, they. Oh, no. Yeah.
Steve:Ah, I guess they haven't said it out loud yet.
Leif:At dinner, Chuck is interrogating Blair's
Leif:new bow. Eric and Cece call him out.
Leif:But he responds to tip in typical Chuck
Leif:fashion. Hey, everybody. Grandma's back. When
Leif:Chuck sees the heart on Jane's sleeve,
Leif:he gets up to leave, clearly distraught.
Leif:Chucky boy.
Steve:Aw, Chuck
Steve:has feelings. I actually have two notes
Steve:on this scene. the first is that, the way
Steve:that Chuck tries to subtly weaponize
Steve:homophobia when he's like,
Steve:you know, you. So how was Harold and,
Steve:oh, what's his boyfriend's
Steve:name? Like, really felt like he
Steve:was trying to, like, oh, let's see how this dude reacts
Steve:when we bring up. And of course, James is like, oh, yeah,
Steve:they were great.
Leif:What was he weapon? I thought he was just trying to fish
Leif:to see if he knew the name.
Steve:Oh, I see. I saw it as he was trying to fish to
Steve:see if he would have a reaction to the gay
Steve:parents. That was how I read that.
Steve:But I, That might just be.
Leif:Yeah, I don't really get that, but it's possible. to me, it was more he was just
Leif:fishing to see if he was there.
Steve:That makes sense.
Leif:He was, like, checking up on Blair's story.
Steve:That tracks. The other thing that I want to say about this, and
Steve:this might be something that you were going to tell me earlier,
Steve:but I felt throughout this entire episode
Steve:that Lily was unavailable. And
Steve:Cece was written for Lily. Yes.
Leif:And Cece, ah, is way out of character.
Steve:And Cece is entirely out of
Steve:character. And just. Welp, I had a whole change of heart because
Steve:I survived cancer, which. Okay, like, I'll take
Steve:it, but that. But the entire thing,
Steve:like, needed Lily.
Leif:Like, yeah, so I'm
Leif:pretty sure this is when she had her kid.
Leif:Okay, but this is, like, the first half. Many times
Leif:throughout the series, where she just kind of disappears
Leif:for real life reasons, usually to do with the kid.
Leif:apparently it was a very messy divorce, and the guy lived in
Leif:England.
Steve:And I remember you.
Leif:Vicious custody battle going on.
Steve:And it's such a shame because, like, man,
Steve:again, it was written for Lily. You can see
Steve:it all over the place, and she would have fucking killed
Steve:it. And Cece doesn't. Yeah, Cece
Steve:is just not good in this.
Steve:I have a later note on her, but we'll get to that
Steve:later. Yeah.
Leif:Just doesn't fit her character.
Steve:No, not at all. Does she revert back to old
Steve:Cece later on? Like, is this
Steve:who she is now, or does she
Steve:go back to being an asshole when Lily's around?
Leif:She definitely goes back to being asshole, but
Leif:she's a little more. She's definitely softened out
Leif:from her first appearance, but she definitely reverts
Leif:more. She goes back more to character.
Steve:I would assume that it's one of those things that
Steve:when Lily's there, she goes back to her old character, and when
Steve:Lily's not, she's written for Lily.
Steve:But we'll see. We'll keep an eye on
Steve:that.
Leif:Blair follows after him. Looks like we know
Leif:Blair had to get what Blair had to get from
Leif:Nate. Chuck is devastated and walks away again.
Leif:Blair hides her tears. This are just
Leif:fucking idiots.
Steve:They are. They are. But this fucking scene.
Steve:The colors, like, the color
Steve:palette of this scene, the green,
Steve:the green background with the pink
Steve:across the, behind Chuck and the
Steve:water behind Blair and the way that they
Steve:shot it with the. The close ups
Steve:to really catch their. Their reactions and then
Steve:these broad shots of this
Steve:beautiful outdoor
Steve:little garden area, I
Steve:just. I was blown away, and it's a very
Steve:emotionally powerful scene. Like, I got. I
Steve:got wrapped up in it. It was really good.
Leif:Yeah. Very good chemistry
Leif:still.
Steve:Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was,
Steve:unbelievable.
Leif:Back of the table, Blair grabs the heart pin from Jane's
Leif:sleeve, an obvious plant, as he wasn't even aware it
Leif:was there.
Steve:Yeah. Oh, I didn't feel a thing. Neither did
Steve:I. Oh,
Steve:man.
Leif:I love Blair's lines.
Steve:Yeah, that. It was such a good
Steve:line, and it was so. It
Steve:seems like such a throwaway, but she
Steve:just fucking stuck the landing so
Steve:well.
Leif:Nate and his lady friend are basking in the
Leif:afterglow when her husband gets home early, and Nate
Leif:is forced to run out of the house in only
Leif:underwear. Serena and her date almost
Leif:hit him as he was crossing the street. Nate
Leif:is busted.
Steve:She's clearly done this before.
Steve:Yeah, she clearly has an escape
Steve:route. She
Steve:was way too calm.
Steve:Okay. It is a code. Husband, I'm going to need you
Steve:to choose either through the window or, was the
Steve:other option under the bed m or the closet or something
Steve:like that. And, like. And, you know,
Steve:she just went into, like, husband returning
Steve:protocol mode, and. And
Steve:Nate was like, what the fuck?
Leif:Sarita and Blair are walking down the street, and she
Leif:admits she doesn't even like James. That and that
Leif:Chuck ruined her summer mother.
Steve:Chucker. And that chuck
Steve:bastard. Yeah. I love it.
Leif:I love it. Chuck bastard also.
Steve:Yeah. This is where. This is where the scene where Serena
Steve:compliments James, where
Steve:Blair calls James boring to Serena,
Steve:and Serena's like, well, at brunch the other day, he
Steve:was great. He was talking about this and this, and he said
Steve:all. And I was like,
Steve:lar, you weren't at brunch. You were
Steve:on a date that you two already referenced earlier in
Steve:the scene.
Leif:Nate and Chuck are walking down the same street, and Chuck
Leif:says he is avoiding Blair and the white party and going back to
Leif:the city early.
Steve:Aw.
Leif:yeah, he thought he was going to get Blair right away.
Steve:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:And then the two sets of best friends just happened
Leif:to bump into each other. Serena questions Nate about
Leif:the affair, while Chuck questions James
Leif:backstory. Now Chuck has his scheming
Leif:face on.
Steve:Mmm. yeah,
Steve:I love it. Like, what college does he go
Steve:when he and blair get into the bickering over Bristol college George
Steve:stuff?
Leif:Briston. Georgetown.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah, it was so great. And then he's like,
Steve:eric, you were there.
Steve:And then like, okay, we gotta see what we can find on
Steve:him.
Leif:And I do some research during junior.
Steve:Yeah. And I love how Eric just does.
Steve:Like, I love how Eric is like.
Leif:What else is he going to do?
Steve:Yeah. Yeah, I would like. That was his attitude. Like, yeah,
Steve:sure. Fuck yeah, I'll do this.
Leif:yeah, I love. At the end of the scene,
Leif:chase gives us a little eye roll. Like, he's like, oh, my God.
Leif:What are you doing, Chuck?
Steve:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:Like, let him do comedy. Let him do,
Leif:comedy.
Steve:Yeah, please. Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:Dan is bitching to his dad about getting fired.
Leif:Rufus knows all about writer's block and the Vander
Leif:Woodson woman.
Steve:Yeah. Like, oh, it took me twelve years to finish
Steve:a song. that's not what
Steve:your kid needs to hear right now, though.
Leif:Like, wow, at least it's only been a couple months for him.
Steve:Yeah, but just like, imagine being
Steve:like, hey, I wanna. I'm an aspiring writer.
Steve:And then your dad, who is, like, a
Steve:professional writer of a different sort,
Steve:is like, yeah, once I had writer's block for twelve years. It's
Steve:like, shit, am I gonna have this for twelve years?
Leif:well, he remembers what
Leif:uncorked that writer's block for his dad. So he's
Leif:like, I have an idea.
Leif:Back at Cece's house, nate, Chuck and eric are playing
Leif:polo and discussing the holes in James backstory.
Leif:Eric has gotten as far as he can, so Chuck calls
Leif:his personal PI.
Steve:He has a PI on speed dial.
Steve:Yeah. I love Chuck and
Steve:eric's relationship, and I just love
Steve:how. How eric is just
Steve:all in. Like, oh, you want me to do some digging on this
Steve:random dude? Sure, bro. Like, I'm here
Steve:for it. And I also love, like, he,
Steve:like, you know, they're hanging out with Nate.
Steve:I love that Nate and eric are hanging out now because of
Steve:this. I love eric having friends, you
Steve:know? Yeah.
Leif:It is nice to see him doing much better this season.
Steve:yeah.
Leif:He did much better than he was in the first season premiere.
Steve:Yeah. Especially at this point in last season, he was in much worse
Steve:shape.
Leif:So good to see.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Serena and nate have a conversation about his
Leif:affair, and Nate is fucking dumb.
Leif:it's pretty sad when serena has to mansplain to
Leif:you.
Steve:Yeah. I love the serena and nate
Steve:friendship. I think that they are just really
Steve:sweet together. I love how they
Steve:interact and how they're just there for each other. I think it's
Steve:sweet.
Leif:Blair gets text from Chuck announcing that he's coming to
Leif:the white party after all. She looks like she is
Leif:smelling a foul, older odor as she invites James
Leif:to the white party.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:She was about to break up with.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:And. And it was funny for one more night.
Steve:Yeah. And he was also about to
Steve:confess to her. Yeah. As well.
Steve:That, like, had he just talked, but. But also,
Steve:had he told her then, I think that would
Steve:have had a very different impact on where
Steve:they ended up.
Leif:Yeah. You know, but also, like, if Blair was going to
Leif:break up with him now, like, what was her plan for when school
Leif:started?
Steve:Yeah. Yes.
Leif:I guess he wanted to. He was keeping them
Leif:around because Chuck was specifically coming to the party to confront
Leif:about lying about, Princeton. Georgetown.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Leif:Dan arrives in the Hamptons via the jitney and
Leif:hops in the nearest cab. Dan's on
Leif:the scene. Finally.
Steve:Yep. Yeah. Good
Steve:job, Dan.
Leif:Yeah. And that is the end
Leif:of act two. We move to act three. The white
Leif:party is popping off thanks to some not so
Leif:clever product placement.
Leif:so, yes, as Josh Schwartz discovered in
Leif:his second, batch of shows. So he did this
Leif:show and Chuck at the same time.
Leif:You can get some money for, product placement.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:a lot of subway on Chuck, and we have
Leif:vitamin water all over the place here.
Steve:Yeah. It was catered by vitamin
Steve:water, pretty much like.
Leif:Well, yeah, the vitamin water white party.
Steve:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:And there's stacks of them.
Steve:Yeah. and
Steve:also,
Steve:Laurel, when she was ripping apart Jenny's
Steve:dress was like. And that's eggshell.
Steve:And this party, there is a lot of off white
Steve:in eggshell.
Leif:Most of it's off white.
Steve:Yeah. Like, tons of people are wearing things that
Steve:matched what Jenny was wearing.
Leif:Jenny arrives with Eric and gets a
Leif:WTF stare from Laurel.
Steve:Wait. Oh, yeah.
Leif:It's like, bitch, what do you. Why do you care if she's there?
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Why. Why do you care?
Steve:Yeah, I actually think I have that as a note later on, too,
Steve:like. Like, are you security?
Leif:Are you security?
Steve:Yeah. Why is this such a big deal to you? And, like,
Steve:when she does confront Jennie, which we'll talk about, but, like, that was
Steve:my way.
Leif:And looked the. At the list.
Steve:Yeah, yeah. She, like, did race. Like, it took.
Steve:She. It would upset her so much that she took
Steve:time out of her. Of her enjoyment at this
Steve:fucking party.
Leif:yeah. Catherine makes a snide comment
Leif:today, and Nate just asked Serena to get him
Leif:drunk.
Steve:Yeah. She was mad that
Steve:Nate was there, and she just, you know, you tried.
Steve:Are you trying to get me a divorce? And
Steve:Nate wants to get drunk? Yep.
Leif:Why are we doing this story?
Steve:Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
Leif:Cece is getting ready for the party when who knocks on
Leif:her door? Daniel Humphrey, that's who.
Leif:Dad helps her put on her pearls. Cece is a
Leif:changed woman. Is now playing Cupid for Stan and
Leif:Serena.
Steve:Yeah. She's all about this relationship that she
Steve:was absolutely all against for
Steve:many reasons the last
Steve:time we saw her.
Leif:Yeah. You didn't want her to stop her
Leif:from being with the advocates for happiness. Yeah,
Leif:that had nothing to do with her happiness.
Steve:Yeah, yeah. Nothing.
Steve:yeah. And again, this whole
Steve:scene just felt like they needed Lily, and they're,
Steve:like.
Leif:Definitely ready for Lily.
Steve:Oh, shit. Well, how are we going to have
Steve:Cece take him to the party? Well, we'll just
Steve:say that cancer made her nice.
Leif:Yeah. Blair is becoming
Leif:more and more transparent. Her attempts to use James to
Leif:make Chuck jealous. Even James finally gets the
Leif:hint and walks away.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Where are you? Screwed up. Took it too
Leif:far.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. And again, this is Layton being
Steve:great at bad acting, too.
Leif:Laurel confronts Jenny about the being at the
Leif:party. She is still being a total bitch to Jenny
Leif:for no reason. Then Eric sets Jenny up
Leif:for the alley oop slam by bringing over
Leif:socialite Tinsley Mortimer, who
Leif:absolutely loves Jenny's dress.
Steve:Yeah, so. So Robin gave an audible squeal when
Steve:Tinsley, mortal Mortimer came over. But, like, we
Steve:were just saying about Laurel, like, it's one thing to be an
Steve:asshole at. At work, right? Where, like, you are the
Steve:boss and it is your job and, like, you are under pressure and,
Steve:like, you were more of an asshole than you needed to be, but it was
Steve:kind of understandable in a situation where you're
Steve:at work, but, you're not at work. Like, what do
Steve:you give a shit so much that you're wasting your party?
Steve:Time to go look at the guest list and to also
Steve:be like, and how do you know
Steve:somebody that would be at this party?
Steve:It's like I go to fucking Constance.
Steve:I go to a fucking rich Upper east
Steve:side school. You don't think I don't don't
Steve:know anybody at that fucking school. I
Steve:dated Ash Ashton.
Steve:I dated Asher. What's his
Steve:name? Yeah.
Leif:yeah. Well, over the top from Laurel.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:James calls Blair out for using him.
Leif:Chuck is sitting in the shadows and steps in as James
Leif:walks away. Blair is still too hurt
Leif:to make things work.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. And this is where James just lands
Steve:a crit on. On Blair, too. Where
Steve:isn't this where. Where he turns to her and is like,
Steve:Was this all about, like, am I really boring,
Steve:or are you just so obsessed with yourself that you just didn't
Steve:take the time to learn anything about me? And it was
Steve:just like, you could just see her just
Steve:like, I just get stabbed in the gut and just
Steve:like, oh, fuck. And then.
Steve:And then for Chuck to immediately be like, see, we
Steve:belong together. You're just like me. And it's like, no, I'm
Steve:not.
Leif:Nate and Serena are still talking about the affair.
Leif:Serena starts making out with Nate to make Katherine
Leif:jealous. Unfortunately for Serena, Katherine
Leif:isn't the only one who gets jealous. At the ruse, Dan
Leif:conveniently arrives just in time to witness the
Leif:guests.
Steve:It's so, like, it.
Leif:It's, like, so t drama.
Steve:And it's so. It's like the steamroller.
Steve:Like, it's like the steamroller and Austin powers
Steve:where you see this happening for, like,
Steve:you know, 30 yards away.
Steve:It's like, wow, they're going to start kissing,
Steve:and then I doubt Dan's going to see
Steve:that, even though it doesn't mean anything.
Leif:yeah. Back from commercial break. Dan
Leif:is back to judging Serena, but get some instant
Leif:karma when the two young ladies he was macking with back
Leif:in act one show up and call him out right out in the middle of
Leif:the rant. His rant arena.
Steve:Yeah. He's a real dick, especially
Steve:when he slut shames her. Yeah. When
Steve:she's like, I'm surprised, and he's like, well, I'm
Steve:nothing. And, like, I will
Steve:say the one point where.
Leif:I hate how Serena just, like, goes, like,
Leif:goes along with it.
Steve:Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one
Steve:thing where I understood where Dan was coming
Steve:from is the point of
Steve:you can't tell me why. And it's
Steve:always a. There's always something you can't tell me, and there's
Steve:always another reason behind things, but
Steve:also, like, get over it,
Steve:Dan. Like. Like, shut up about it. Yeah.
Leif:Stop being a fucking judge, Rachel.
Steve:Dick. Yeah. And stop being a fucking hypocrite.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Like, so,
Leif:Dan was definitely being a dick, and. But
Leif:I will say those other girls
Leif:didn't really have much leg to stand on because they were
Leif:there with other dates, too. So it's like, clearly there was
Leif:not a monogamous relationship.
Steve:Right, right.
Leif:And did Dan deserve to have them throw their
Leif:drinks on that nice seventies suit?
Steve:Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Well,
Steve:and. And also to that point,
Steve:like, why would Dan
Steve:be surprised to
Steve:see Serena and Nate hooking up?
Steve:Dan knows what's on the gossip
Steve:girl message boards, and if she. He doesn't,
Steve:Jenny does.
Leif:maybe he's been not paying attention.
Steve:This summer, but do you think Jenny
Steve:wasn't? You think it was never brought up that,
Steve:hey, it looks like Serena and Nate are dating each other.
Steve:I feel like it was way too public for Dan
Steve:not to know.
Leif:I feel like Jenny would have not told him
Leif:if he was purposely, like, being,
Leif:like, staying out of it. I feel like Jenny
Leif:would not have said anything.
Steve:I don't know because I feel like Jenny was also really trying
Steve:to get the info on. On stuff,
Steve:you know, he was.
Leif:But, she likes to get the info. She doesn't give the info.
Steve:Yeah, that's true. I'm just. I just
Steve:find it difficult to believe.
Steve:I mean, yes, there are reasons that he wouldn't have known and he
Steve:wouldn't have seen it, but I just feel like the
Steve:way that gossip girl is used in this
Steve:that he should have.
Leif:But, you know, he is a loner. He's,
Steve:Well, but he. But he wasn't.
Leif:But these are not upper. He's, like, hanging out in Brooklyn
Leif:now with the writer chicks. The writer
Leif:groupies.
Steve:Yeah. Fair.
Leif:yeah. In the quiet
Leif:hall. In a quiet hallway, Katherine and Nate begin making
Leif:out. What is with Nate? And letting the mother figures
Leif:walk all over him? I'm sure doctor Freud would have
Leif:something to say on this subject. Maybe they are setting up
Leif:Nate's season six storyline to be a
Leif:tragedy in which he kills his dad and fucks his mom.
Steve:Yeah, I'd watch that.
Leif:Yeah. Well. Well,
Leif:not really, but. Well, yeah, I'd read about
Leif:it.
Leif:Serena is helping Dan wash the vitamin water
Leif:out of his. Out of her grandfather's vintage suit.
Leif:Dan admits he was trying to chuck the pain
Leif:away this summer. Serena can't resist
Leif:the Dan in a muscle tank, but, right at what did
Leif:it better, though?
Steve:like, it's a cute makeup scene. But
Steve:why is it, though?
Leif:Hold on.
Steve:Hold. Well, it's cute.
Steve:Like, they're kind of talking, and they're cleaning
Steve:the thing, and they're going back and forth.
Steve:But, like, I was also like, why? Why are they
Steve:getting back together? And my only guess is
Steve:that the message boards over the summer were like, why the
Steve:fuck did you break them up? But,
Steve:like, why are they getting back together? Like,
Steve:the breakup was going to bring
Steve:about new stories and new.
Leif:But I feel like the show is also telling us that
Leif:it's not the right time for them to get back together.
Leif:Like, they're getting back together, but they didn't talk through their
Leif:issues at all. It's clearly still just a
Leif:physical attraction thing. It's like, like I
Leif:said, when he takes off his shirt, she's
Leif:like, ready to
Leif:go.
Steve:Yeah, yeah. Also, this is where
Steve:I have the other note that Cece is
Steve:practically a muppet.
Steve:Like, she just looked like, she reminded me
Steve:of the. Of the dark crystal muppets.
Steve:The way that she just kind of, like, is
Steve:she, like, turned and she had this, like, turn and walked
Steve:off screen, and, like, it was, like,
Steve:so muppet esque, but, like.
Steve:But, like, creepy muppet esque.
Leif:And it was like,
Leif:I like the actress play Cece. I just think her. She
Leif:was written out a character this episode.
Steve:Yeah. And I think that it made it, and I think
Steve:that she played the other Cece
Steve:better. I think she played Cece
Steve:great. I didn't think she played Lily very well.
Leif:Blair, apologizes to James. He admits his
Leif:fake backstory. At the same time, Chuck is
Leif:finding out the truth from his PI. James is
Leif:actually Marcus, a real british
Leif:lord. this is the most ridiculous
Leif:scene ever.
Steve:I. So before he
Steve:confessed in. In the earlier thing, when he's like,
Steve:I have a secret I need to tell you, too. To
Steve:Blair. When they were discussing the whole college thing,
Steve:I turned to rob and I said, he's a british
Steve:lord or a prince or some fucking shit like
Steve:that. Boom.
Leif:Yep. But,
Leif:unfortunately, I think his american accent's a little better than his british
Leif:accent. The actor is actually american.
Steve:Yeah, well, yeah, but,
Steve:like, that changed.
Leif:Mid sense was so ridiculous.
Steve:I was there laughing. Yeah, it was so
Steve:bad. And
Steve:just so, like, yeah, this guy's
Steve:gonna be a fucking prince, isn't he? Or some
Steve:stupid fucking
Steve:any. And he's, I'm assuming, gonna
Steve:be around at least for another episode, because the
Steve:episode, next episode title I did see.
Leif:Yes, he's gonna be around for a little bit.
Steve:I'm okay with that.
Leif:But that is the end of act three, so we move
Leif:into the epilogue. Jenny shocks
Leif:Solaro with her loyalty Jenny turned down
Leif:an offer from Tinsley to continue working at Waldorf
Leif:designs.
Steve:Yeah, little, j takes
Steve:the high road.
Leif:But why?
Steve:Why? Like, I
Steve:mean, it seemed like you had something
Steve:that. I don't know, I just felt like she didn't really
Steve:owe anything to Eleanor at this point because
Steve:they shit on
Steve:her, you know, like, go where
Steve:you're appreciated and where they actually respect what
Steve:you're doing.
Leif:But I I don't really. It was part of
Leif:that Parsons internship program,
Leif:so maybe that means something. I don't
Leif:know.
Steve:Yeah, I feel like it was played off to
Steve:be like, Jenny takes the high road sort of thing. Like,
Steve:Jenny. Jenny's gonna forgive Laurel, and
Steve:Laurel's gonna learn a lesson, you know, like.
Steve:Like. And really, I,
Steve:might, like. I was kind of like, fuck Laurel in this
Steve:situation.
Leif:Chuck admits to Blair that he was scared and begs
Leif:her to stay with him, but he can't emit those
Leif:three words, eight letters. Blair gets
Leif:in the car with Marcus, and they drive away.
Steve:Yeah.
Steve:this is another one of those, like, just super
Steve:well shot scenes. The directing and.
Steve:And the acting and that especially, like, the
Steve:face acting. The up m close. Close shots are
Steve:just. They capture just so
Steve:much. and. And again, the
Steve:chemistry between Ed and
Steve:Leighton or Layton. again,
Steve:just. It just. It was a heart
Steve:wrenching scene. And when she goes and gets in the car,
Steve:it's like you feel for Chuck even
Steve:though he fucks up. Like, he's.
Steve:He's in his. He's in his bed of his own making,
Steve:but you feel for him.
Leif:Nate gets a note from Katherine as she is
Leif:leaving with her husband. Looks like the fair
Leif:is still on.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, meet me at a
Steve:hotel.
Leif:So guess that story's
Leif:still happening, too.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was
Steve:like, oh, that was my thought, too. Like,
Steve:this is still going to have. This is still going to go on.
Leif:Apparently, Dan is finally writing his
Leif:story by a beachside campfire as Serena walks
Leif:up with an unsure look on her face. So I'm
Leif:not sure if that was intentional or if that was just Blake cabbing
Leif:gas.
Steve:Yeah, I didn't. I had that
Steve:thought. So the first time I'm watching, I was like, she's
Steve:going to turn and walk away, and he's just going to be sitting there all alone.
Steve:and why? And then she doesn't, and I'm like, oh,
Steve:okay. They are going to get back together, but why?
Leif:Because they're 17 and they're
Leif:extremely attracted to each other,
Leif:which definitely tracks.
Steve:And I do believe. My
Steve:instinct is saying that the message board that Josh
Steve:Schwartz is love affair with the
Steve:message boards may. Must have played a
Steve:role somewhat because I believe you said
Steve:that, like, at the end of the season,
Steve:at our last episode, that they. The
Steve:message boards were like, why did they break up? Like, dan,
Steve:you idiot. And so I wonder if
Steve:there was some fan.
Leif:Yeah, I guess we'll see.
Leif:We'll see.
Steve:But I just feel like a lot of this.
Leif:I mean, do you think they're going to last?
Steve:I feel like they will for a little while, anyway. I feel
Steve:like putting them back together like this. I
Steve:feel like. I feel like
Steve:I give them to at least the midseason finale.
Steve:Like, halfway through the. Through the season, if not
Steve:longer.
Leif:Chuck is drinking away his sorrows alone
Leif:at the bar.
Leif:Yes, this is the feeling. This is a season of sad
Leif:Chuck.
Steve:Bat Chuck.
Leif:Yes. Serena and Dan embrace on the
Leif:beach as fireworks go off and fell in love
Leif:without you by motion picture soundtrack plays
Leif:for the final time as the screen goes to
Leif:black.
Steve:I should have said, I'm best man.
Steve:yeah, I kind of feel like it kind of left us
Steve:back where we were in season one.
Leif:Yeah. They still have not resolved any of their
Leif:issues.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. I feel like. I felt like there
Steve:was such resolution at the end of season
Steve:one, and there was also.
Steve:And there was resolution at the end of season one, and
Steve:this shake up of Dan and
Steve:Vanessa and Serena and Nate, and
Steve:I didn't want the dan and Vanessa thing to happen.
Steve:Apparently, Vanessa wanted the dan and Vanessa thing to happen,
Steve:but then realized that Dan wanted the dan and
Steve:whoever in Brooklyn thing to happen, and Vanessa
Steve:wasn't having it. Yeah.
Leif:Yeah. yeah. So we heard about Vanessa, but, yeah, thankfully,
Leif:she was not on screen.
Steve:Yeah. Sweet. Yeah, we had
Steve:off screen Allison and Vanessa, and
Steve:honestly, ladies, your best performances.
Leif:So besides, I see you're saying mid
Leif:season breakup for, dance arena.
Leif:What else we got? Chuck and blair. What's going to happen with
Leif:them?
Steve:Eventually. Eventually,
Steve:Marcus is going to have to realize that for
Steve:all that he can give Blair, her heart is
Steve:somewhere else. Like, I feel like that's where that is going
Steve:to end up, and so it'll end up with
Steve:Chuck and Blair. M again.
Steve:I still kind of want Vanessa and Nate to happen.
Steve:We have to have a Vanessa. I think
Steve:that she's definitely where she.
Leif:Was at her best.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. I can
Steve:tolerate her. I can tolerate Vanessa when
Steve:Georgina Sparks is around or when
Steve:she's with Nate, but they seem to happen at the same time,
Steve:so.
Leif:But please get rid of Catherine.
Steve:Yeah, that. Come on. Like, why are we.
Steve:And then, like, I'm. Maybe.
Steve:Maybe that now we're in 2024 and
Steve:looking back at, like, the.
Steve:The number of. Of, like,
Steve:teachers and male high
Steve:school students, like, female teachers or, like,
Steve:the. Where you
Steve:hear that on the news, and there. There was the
Steve:time where it was where the
Steve:guys would make the jokes of, like, oh, ha.
Leif:Ah ha.
Steve:Lucky. Like, man of my teacher, whatever. But,
Steve:like, if you really think about that shit, it's
Steve:traumatizing. And, like, it really can, like,
Steve:have huge, fucked up,
Steve:long term impact on. On a. On a
Steve:young kid like that. And I feel like
Steve:this show doesn't have the.
Steve:The. Doesn't have the
Steve:weight to. Doesn't have the strength to carry
Steve:that weight.
Leif:Yeah.
Steve:You know, I feel like this needs to get wrapped up
Steve:quickly before it gets creepier and
Steve:grosser.
Leif:Yeah, well, we'll see how that
Leif:goes. So that is it for our
Leif:episode this week in
Leif:fandom. We went back into the wayback
Leif:machine to take a look at the television without the pity
Leif:forums. We got Dan is still a
Leif:jackass, but prettier.
Steve:Okay. Yeah, there's a little better.
Leif:How old is Marcus?
Steve:Yeah, I mean, once again, like, Marcus
Steve:definitely looks like he's
Steve:at least late twenties. Yeah.
Leif:I mean, he was saying he was in college, but then at the end,
Leif:he's like, no, I don't go to school.
Steve:Not actually in college. I'm not
Steve:actually in college. No.
Leif:Unsure about Cece's 180,
Leif:as we talked about, as kind of odd.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:Dan and Serena getting back together won't
Leif:last.
Steve:Yeah. I also feel like, why get them back
Steve:together? Just to break them back up? Which is why I said, even
Steve:if it doesn't last, I think it will at least
Steve:last until, like, that mid season
Steve:finale. Yeah. Christmas episode.
Steve:or big episode around then.
Leif:Can't get enough of Chuck and Blair.
Leif:Yeah. As we talked about, they had the
Leif:episode.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah.
Leif:And Eric. They're happy. Eric's
Leif:happy.
Steve:Yeah. like we said, like, you know, it's just
Steve:I love that little guy. He's such a great guy to root for,
Steve:and he's such, like, a lovable
Steve:character who. Who is also
Steve:just one of those super sincere kids who doesn't
Steve:judge people by anything other than what's
Steve:in front of them. It's like he's, like, a smarter Nate,
Steve:you know?
Leif:Yes.
Steve:And a more. And a more, Like,
Steve:yeah, yeah. More perceptive, empathetic, and
Steve:more empathetic. That's the word I'm looking for.
Leif:So moving on to grades. It's the
Leif:first episode of the season, so you get to go first.
Steve:All right. Well, I gave this one.
Steve:I'm going to actually give it a. I gave it a b
Steve:plus, and I was. That was shaky even there.
Steve:I was, I started at an a and then just kind of started, like,
Steve:listing my. The things that bothered in it started
Steve:dropping the score there. There is
Steve:great directing in this episode. I
Steve:think the director got great performances out of
Steve:the. Out of the cast. I feel like the
Steve:shot choices and the. And
Steve:the general, like, directorial
Steve:choices were really good, but
Steve:there was some really predictable and
Steve:sometimes weird writing. The cc
Steve:thing is one of the big pieces that I
Steve:think kind of held the episode back. And
Steve:again, like, I thought it was weird to get Dan and Serena
Steve:back together, especially if the idea is to get
Steve:together, get them together just to break them up again,
Steve:and especially if they break up over all the same dumb
Steve:shit. Why are we. I
Steve:hate when a season two of a show is a season
Steve:one redo.
Leif:I mean, I get it, but it definitely
Leif:makes sense for teenagers to do
Leif:something like that.
Steve:Yeah, it does, but.
Leif:But we don't. We don't want to see it.
Steve:Yeah, but, like. Yeah, I. Like,
Steve:I taught it. I taught middle and high
Steve:school long enough that, like, I. Yes, I recognize
Steve:the reality of it, and it's boring there, too.
Steve:It's boring in real life, too.
Leif:So I have very similar thoughts, but I
Leif:actually went, a bit lower. I'm gonna give it a c
Leif:plus.
Steve:Cool. Yeah.
Leif:The directing was okay. The acting was
Leif:good in some scenes, but it was
Leif:okay overall. And the writing was
Leif:just mediocre.
Steve:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:The c plus, I can't argue that.
Steve:Like, I think that's a fair grade. but I. You know, and
Steve:I also kind of felt like. I feel like
Steve:after the writers strike, I started getting a taste of what
Steve:Gossip girl not.
Leif:I think this episode on the positive,
Leif:it did do some good setup. I think it
Leif:set up some stuff for the season.
Steve:Yeah. Although I think some of the stuff it
Steve:set up is also sort of, like, you know,
Steve:they, like, some of the things that it does set up are, like,
Steve:the nate thing, you know, and the,
Leif:Yeah, yeah.
Leif:Stock watch. Who do you got going up?
Steve:All right. Going up. I feel like this was a
Steve:very up heavy episode.
Leif:Oh, really? I was the opposite.
Steve:Really? I have. I have most people going up
Steve:by the end of this episode. I have most of them going up.
Steve:Actually, I had Blair going up because now shes
Steve:dating a prince. Dan and Serena
Steve:going up because they got back together. And good for
Steve:them. And Dan can write again. And good for
Steve:them. Jenny going up because shes gotten
Steve:some of the respect to Laurel and she got offered a job
Steve:from Tinsley Mortimer.
Steve:Marcus because he landed Blair
Steve:cece for not being a complete and total fucking
Steve:asshole for now, Rufus
Steve:for some solid road parenting.
Steve:And as much as I. Well, you know what? No, I'm going to take
Steve:that one out. I'm not going to give Nate an up
Steve:because Nate.
Leif:Ah. So for me, the only ones I had going up were Eric and
Leif:jenny. Eric. Eric has some friends
Leif:now. And Jenny got back with Eric and, you
Leif:know, full one over on her boss and
Leif:impressed Tinsley Mortimer.
Steve:I actually meant to have Eric too. I didn't write it
Steve:down, but I would. I also had Eric going up because
Steve:Eric, like you said, was just fucking awesome.
Leif:I almost was going to give Dan going up because he got
Leif:laid a couple times and. And also got back together with
Leif:Serena, but then I just realized that was my damn bias showing
Leif:through. And he was a total douchebag in this episode.
Leif:And getting back to Serena is obviously the wrong move
Leif:here.
Steve:That's fair. That's fair.
Leif:Who do you got going down?
Steve:I had, well, Chuck
Steve:start. Chuck starting the season
Steve:in the negative again because he just kind of lost
Steve:everything.
Leif:Laurel.
Steve:Laurel stock went down because laurel was an
Steve:asshole and got, shown up by little jay.
Steve:Catherine. Her stock is going down
Steve:for being a pedophile
Steve:and mister catherine for being married to a
Steve:pedophile who's cheating on it.
Steve:That's all we. That's all we have of his name. We don't know
Steve:his name yet.
Leif:yeah, it would feel more flat.
Steve:Yeah. Yeah. Mister Catherine. Is that
Steve:it? Yeah.
Leif:For me, I had Blair going
Leif:down because she is with
Leif:a prince or a lord, but she doesn't really love
Leif:him. And she just acted like a fool
Leif:this whole episode. Oh, yeah,
Leif:Chuck, obviously you mister sad man. All
Leif:episode. He's going, way down. Dan,
Leif:for. Yeah, like, like I said before, he's just a total douche all
Leif:episode. And he shouldn't be getting back together with Serena now because they have not
Leif:worked through their issues. Yeah, Serena for the
Leif:same reason. Fair
Leif:Marcus going down because
Leif:she failed your test and then you still fucking got with her.
Leif:What? What do you think,
Leif:katherine?
Steve:She said something to me that no one else
Steve:would ever say to me.
Leif:Yeah, him. And they m need to see the same therapist.
Leif:I think
Leif:they like those domineering women.
Leif:Katherine. And nothing needs to be said there.
Leif:She's going down well.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:in more ways than what.
Steve:Yeah, clearly Nate. Yeah.
Leif:Because he's just back to being exactly where he was in
Leif:season one.
Steve:Yeah. I should have had Nate going down, too, if I didn't say
Steve:that I originally had him as going up. And I
Steve:don't know where I think that I meant to write eric, but I put
Steve:Nate.
Leif:And then also I have Laurel.
Steve:Yeah, Laurel sucked.
Leif:Who do you have your best outfit?
Steve:I. It was. That
Steve:green scene was so,
Steve:like, so impactful to me. I have
Steve:probably Chuck's suit, but I really listed it as
Steve:a pair with Chuck and blair, the two of
Steve:them, because I felt like that whole color.
Leif:Palette, you want to give them both a half point.
Steve:Yeah, I'm going to give both Chuck and Blair a half point
Steve:because I felt like they both really,
Steve:I felt like that
Steve:complete visual is what made those outfits.
Leif:Okay. So, yeah, the fashion
Leif:was actually one of the best parts of this episode for me. Yeah, there were
Leif:several. Great. I liked Blair Blair's floral
Leif:dress when she was riding the bike. I liked Blair's Marc
Leif:Jacobs, scallop dress at the party. Nate,
Leif:Nate's the look, his party look was the one I would most want to wear
Leif:myself with, like, the relaxed sweater and just the white
Leif:t shirt and pants.
Steve:I had the thought when I saw him in that outfit, I was
Steve:like, that's probably like a
Steve:$500 t shirt and, like a
Steve:$1200 sweater.
Leif:It looked really comfortable.
Steve:It really did. But I had the same thought. Like,
Steve:that's exactly what I would want to wear. And that's probably
Steve:like, that's probably like, yeah.
Leif:But in the end, I had to give it to
Leif:Serena's Oscar dollar at the white dress. Yeah.
Leif:It was from the 2008 collection, like a
Leif:theta style.
Steve:What I thought was really funny when I was watching this the
Steve:second time, I flashed back to the last
Steve:episode, the season finale with much ado
Steve:or much I do about nothing. Where
Steve:I gave Lily's dress
Steve:the nod for the fashion, for the best
Steve:outfit of the week. And you were like, yeah, I just
Steve:don't really like white dresses that much. Then the
Steve:next episode, it's like an entire white party.
Steve:I was like, well, you're going to have to pick.
Leif:Yep.
Steve:Although they're, you know, like you said those other
Steve:outfits and, and like you said, this episode
Steve:was just very visually
Steve:appealing and I felt like they really captured
Steve:that a lot. I feel like that's this
Steve:show, though. I feel like this show does a lot to
Steve:be visually appealing. Yeah. And not just, you
Steve:know, these pretty actors, which there are
Steve:definitely a lot of pretty actors,
Steve:but they just really make every
Steve:scene something to draw your eye
Steve:and something to stand out.
Leif:Anything you want to plug or recommend this
Leif:week?
Steve:I can't think of much other than
Steve:my Twitter or not my Twitter, my, TikTok,
Steve:and my Instagram. Steve dot Marshan.
Steve:M a r c h I o NDA.
Steve:And aside from that, you know, I
Steve:did start watching the, sympathizer on
Steve:HBO, and that's a neat
Steve:show. It's a Vietnam
Steve:spy era or Vietnam era
Steve:spy thriller of a north
Steve:vietnamese spy who is in
Steve:America. And it's. It's a really cool.
Steve:It's a really cool story.
Leif:Try and check it out. for me, I started out.
Leif:I actually finished, X Men 97.
Leif:Really, really liked it. Definitely recaptured the
Leif:feeling of my youth. I was definitely a nineties kid watching
Leif:the X Men series.
Steve:I love how his will was like a fucking
Steve:St. James Bible.
Steve:When they bring out Xavier's will and it's like this
Steve:fucking, like a tome.
Steve:Yeah. Who has a
Steve:bound will?
Leif:I just really hope they. They're gonna go and they're gonna do
Leif:the onslaught story, because I know they could never really do that
Leif:in live action.
Steve:Yeah.
Leif:But it. It's not very popular, but I liked
Leif:it. It was near the end of my comic collecting run.
Leif:but, yeah, it's. It's. It happens after
Leif:Wolverine gets his adamantity and ripped out by
Leif:Magneto. And then
Leif:Xavier, wipes Magneto's mind, but
Leif:part of his, like, the evil part of him gets into
Leif:Xavier and then creates this super being
Leif:nice and.
Steve:Like, destroys the whole Marvel universe
Steve:again. Yep.
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Leif:And we will be back next week to talk about season
Leif:two, episode two, never been
Leif:Marcus. The max episode
Leif:preview reads, nate learns the downside
Leif:of an affair with an older woman.
Steve:I think it's really funny when the title and the
Steve:description actually don't. Don't m
Steve:match up. Yeah. Because
Steve:clearly something else is going on in this episode.
Leif:Also, I used the max episode descriptions,
Leif:which, yeah, were written way after the show came out, so
Leif:they're not afraid to drop spoilers in them.
Steve:Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And I
Steve:actually tend not to read them. I hear
Steve:you read them when we're here, but I don't read
Steve:them when I'm, I often. I see the episode titles
Steve:usually because you can't help but see.
Leif:Well, until next time, you know you love
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