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On this week's Five Random Questions is Sean Dillon, host of the Beyond the Mic podcast. Sean's topics include entertaining elephants, the meaning of hometown, why movies don't really get tio him, and more. Let's jump in!
Answering the questions this week: Sean Dillon
More than 600 episodes of Beyond the Mic with Sean Dillon and he still doesn't know what he wants to be when he grows up. The last time Danny invited me on a podcast of his, it was the podcast's last episode, so his confidence in calling on me again is admirable.
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There are so many things in this world we can choose to be.
We can choose to be unhappy, we can choose to be angry, we can choose to be frustrated, we can choose to be mean, we can choose to bully, we can choose to terrify, we can choose any sort of negativity. But what does that gain?
Danny Brown:Hi and welcome to Five Random Questions, the show where every question is an adventure. I'm your host Danny Brown and each week I'll be asking my guests five questions created by a random question generator.
The guest has no idea what the questions are and neither do I, which means this could go either way. So sit back, relax and let's dive into this week's episode. Today's guest is Sean Dillon.
Sean has hosted more than six hundred episodes of Beyond the Mic with Sean Dillon, an excellent interview style show that flips the format a bit, rather resulting in his guests sharing stories you probably never heard elsewhere.
Now, Sean says he still doesn't know where he wants to be when he grows up, but I have a few suggestions based on one of the things I'm going to ask him in the intro. So, Sean, welcome to Five Random Questions.
Sean Dillon:Always good to be with you, my brother. How's life treating you?
Danny Brown:Well, as we were speaking about in the green room just before the recording here, it's very snowy and cold here in Canada, where I am at the moment, we had about three foot of snow over the last couple of weeks, so that's been fun. How about you?
Sean Dillon:It's snowing in Texas, so you know it's. But not to the same extreme as you.
Danny Brown:When you say it's been snowing in Texas, that kind of boggles my mind a little bit because Texas is one of the last places I'd expect snow. Is that a recent thing or is that something that's always happened?
Sean Dillon:No, there's always been, there's always snow. Now you didn't say if it stuck. That's the difference because for me there's no snow that sticking on the ground. You've got what, three, four feet?
Danny Brown:Yeah, and we're lucky. There's a couple of places just south of us.
So we live in a little place called Port Sydney which is in Muskoka and Ontario, Central Ontario and Canada.
So about twenty km to the south of us is a place called Bracebridge and then about another twenty kilometres after that is a place called Gravenhurst and they've had it five feet tall and you can see them like snowed in. The roofs are, you know, having to be shoveled off Otherwise, they'll collapse. And they had it really bad.
I mean, I'm complaining about my three foot, but black. Last time, they had it a lot worse than me.
Sean Dillon:Well, that's how the world is for us. It's just a little. A little snow drizzles, it'll. It'll melt. And then in the next couple days, it'll probably be sunshine and seventy all over again.
Danny Brown:Nice out in the barbecue, getting old, ribs gone.
Sean Dillon:Always. Okay, I know you've got those five random questions.
Danny Brown:I do.
Sean Dillon:It's almost a steal of the Rocky Eight, one of the features on Beyond the Mic with Sean Dillon. But you know what? You're a good guy.
Danny Brown:You'll let it fly. Well, one thing I do want to bring up, actually, because you mentioned it when we were getting you scheduled on the episode.
You did remind me that the last time I had you on a podcast of mine, that was the last episode of that show after three episodes, and it went defunct. So what the heck, man? What's your issue?
Sean Dillon:I don't know. You're the one who stopped.
I mean, I was willing to be back again in a couple hundred episodes and say, look at all the success that this podcast has had. And then you stopped, and that kind of made me think that I canceled you again. So let's not. Let's make a deal.
You continue to do this for let's go one hundred episodes, then maybe you can, you know, wind it down.
Danny Brown:I will take the blame off you a little bit. I mean, well, I'll take the blame off you, completely honest. It was a video podcast.
It's the first video, a proper video podcast, if you like that done. And I don't like video. I said that on the episodes, actually. I'm far more comfortable doing audio only, and it's just a lot more work.
So I thought this would be a good time just to nix it before, because it was just taking crazy amounts of time. I really enjoyed, obviously, having you on and my other two guests and hearing about your other podcast. But, yeah, video is not for me, mate.
So I will just. I just want to, like, you know, like, video video.
Sean Dillon:And that's the thing, and that's a question I have for you, is with your work at Captivate and in the podcasting industry, there's been such a big push toward, oh, if you're not on video. If you're not on video. Well, I've been in radio for thirty years. What is the impetus for everyone to feel like, oh, we need to have video everywhere.
You know, audio has its place. You know, if you listen to a podcast and there's no video, you have the ability of putting that image in your mind.
If there's video, it's distracting from it and, and it takes away from what you see.
Like for me, what people can't see is I got a gold record over my left shoulder, I've got a Christmas tree over my right shoulder, I've got my logo over there. But they can't see it. So for everyone else that's just listening, they can imagine that I am in Texas surrounded by thirty inches of snow.
There's a fire roaring in the incredible stone fireplace that's behind me. But what's the deal with video podcasting and why do you think that it's wrong for the industry?
Danny Brown:Yeah, so, I mean, one of my guests on this show, actually, Elsie Escobar, who's the next guest up on the episode that releases on Thursday, it would have been last Thursday, but power outages put paid to that, unfortunately.
She makes a great point about it where a lot of the report in its coming out about this is not always, but a lot of it is about is by people that weren't doing podcasting around the industry prior to twenty twenty. So all they know is what happened after twenty twenty. So obviously a lot of people started podcasting.
Video podcasting became really big because the likes of Joe Rogan got multimillion dollar deals. You know, the call Call Me Daddy, Call Her Daddy podcast obviously got big sponsorship. So a lot of the reporting is been since twenty twenty.
So that's kind of skewing it a bit. But again, it's, you know, audio podcasting for me is more intimate. There's nothing wrong with videos.
If that's your thing and you prefer watching videos and making videos, have at it. You know, it's, it's all good if you prefer audio only equally, all good.
We know thousands and thousands of podcasters at Captivate and they're audio only having great success with their shows. So it's, it's one of these things.
There's always going to be someone that wants you to, you know, sign up to the course to make great video podcasts or hire their agency to edit great video podcasts.
And a lot of times when you see people saying you have to be on video, otherwise you'll be redundant, there's, there can be a certain back issue to that, right?
Sean Dillon:Oh, exactly.
And I had a friend who was asking me if maybe they should change their name because it needs to be explained to people who haven't experienced their podcast. And I'm like, what does Dateline NBC mean? What does the Joe Rogan experience mean? How do I know what Eighty Seven Fifty means? What about the profit podcast?
All great podcasts, but if you don't listen, what is Dateline NBC? If, if you were, if you didn't watch TV and you heard Dateline NBC, you'd still have to be explained it. What's Eighty Seven Fifty?
Well, if you didn't listen, you'd have to still be listen. Having a title that explains everything that you know again takes away, takes away the joy.
If some, if you are doing the SEO, if you're optimizing tags, you know, it's, you know, Bill Shakespeare had it right. What's in a name that we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet. It's all about the content and whether it be video content.
There's some people that are incredible video podcasters. I'm not one of them. There are some people that are great audio podcasters. I strive to be one of them.
And I think as long as you know in your mind where you are and where you want to be, you'll be fine.
Danny Brown:And speaking of where I want you to be, I, I want to give you a new hot seat now. So with that little segue, let's go.
I'm going to bring up the random question generator screen and let's see what we have. Okay, I've never had this question before, so this is good. Sean, question number one. You've been given an elephant. You can't get rid of it.
What would you do with it?
Sean Dillon:I would take it to my in laws ranch down in Fredericksburg and I would let it sit there and enjoy the warmth. And I'm not getting rid of it because it's at my, it's part of family's family's place. It has plenty of room with acreage to live.
I'm going to take care of it. It's going to be fed and well loved.
Danny Brown:And why, I mean, obviously there's like land and it sounds like there's a really good environment there. So it's got the grass, it's got the water, it's got all the stuff that you'd expect an elephant to have. But that's one elephant.
Now elephants, I'd imagine get lonely on their own. Maybe they don't. I'm not an elephant expert.
Would you consider getting a second elephant to keep this elephant company or would that be more in your family?
Sean Dillon:Well, here, here's the thing. I've been given an elephant. Now, if they were kind, they would give me two elephants. It's like I.
It's like if my wife would have all the dogs that she would want, she would take all the dogs that people would give her. I mean, she is the, you know, we have a, A what we call our, our land seal. It's a black lab. We rescued it.
And if my wife had her way, she would have ten dogs, twenty dogs, thirty dogs. She's a dog mom. But again, you want to be able to give that animal the best life.
So that's what my whole thing would be, is give the animal its best life. If it's lonely, we'll have to find a friend.
Danny Brown:And I wonder, I mean, I'm curious why someone would give an elephant. I mean, where would the elephant come from? Is that like you say, you want to give the. The elephant its best life?
So is it a circus that realizes, you know what? This is obviously not a good life for the elephant. This looks a great family.
But I'm wondering how, how would someone get an elephant in the first place? Especially in Texas.
Sean Dillon:Well, hold on here. I mean, come on, someone passes away and you've been willed an elephant.
I mean, I mean, imagine, imagine that you're sitting there in your home in Port Sydney and someone wants to go to Muskoka Lodge, and they say, you know, what we're going to do is, Danny, congratulations, you are the winner of an elephant. You can't get rid of it. You have to do it. Now. Would you be able to give it its best home right there, right now?
Danny Brown:I would not because, like, where we've got like a little bungalow, so even though we've got a decent sized yard, it's not suited for an elephant.
Sean Dillon:Exactly. So whatever it is, I would wanted to give this elephant its best life.
And that's what I think we all need to do, is be able to give our best to whatever it is we do. Our job, our podcast, our hobbies, our family.
You know, if we are giving them our best and their best experience, then not only will they thrive, but will thrive.
Danny Brown:I like that. I'm going to give you extra kudos points for naming Muskoka Lodge properly, by the way. So kudos on that. I like that.
But yeah, it's like, I do like that approach and I've known you for a little while, mate. I see that all the time in our interactions and what you do online and with others.
So I feel we can comfortably tell our listeners if they do have an elephant somewhere that they're not quite doing well with when it comes to looking after. Let's get it over to Texas and it'll be looked after. Agreed.
Sean Dillon:Let's get it to wherever the elephant will thrive.
Danny Brown:Alrighty. I like that. That's a good. A good place to look at where question number two is going to take us. But I like that. Good opening there. Hmm.
Okay, interesting. Question number two, Sean, if you could only speak one word today, what would you say?
Sean Dillon:Love.
Danny Brown:Is that love for others? Is it love for the world globally? What's what? How would you. Where would you go with love?
Sean Dillon:Love. If you're saying I can only say one word, then it'd be love. It's either love or compassion. And that's just.
There are so many things in this world we can choose to be. We can choose to be unhappy. We can choose to be angry. We can choose to be frustrated. We can choose to be mean. We can choose to bully.
We can choose to terrify. We can choose any sort of negativity. But what does that gain? Where do we go? Where do we grow? How do we become better? And that's where.
If we are compassionate and we give love. You know, our first interaction, you. I had a question, and you didn't have to answer it. There was no. There was no obligation by you to say.
I mean, I wasn't a Captivate client. I wasn't anyone that, you know. I said, hey, what do you. What are you doing with. You know, why do you suggest a. And you said, oh, because of this.
And you didn't have to. There was no obligation, but you saw something more, something better. And you want to engage with people and be a better person for them.
And I think if we're compassionate and we give love to everyone, even our enemies. I've got people who don't like me, without a doubt, and thank you. I cannot control their happiness. I cannot control their sadness.
They may be going through worse times than I am, and I'm gone probably through some worse times than other people have. I'm not a millionaire and I don't have all the answers. But if I could speak only one word today, it would probably be love.
Danny Brown:I like that. And also that ties back to the. The elephant question as well. You know, like, make sure the elephant is in a place that it's loved.
One thing that I don't struggle with, that I find interesting is the. I'm going to say conflict but that's completely the wrong word.
But where someone feels they're doing something through love for another person, but that's not actually helping or respecting that person's wishes. Do you think, like, love can be not confused, but can be difficult to gauge because the person is trying to change someone's opinion idea?
Sean Dillon:Love is impossible. Love is impossible to understand. Being compassionate, being caring. There are people that don't want it, and those. I have a friend.
Let me just tell the story because it's a. Basically, we'll answer that question. I have a friend who struggled, struggled through addiction, through divorce, through all sorts of tragedy.
And I was always there for that person. There are several times where he would cuss me out and tell me, I don't need your help. I don't need you.
And yet being compassionate and being loving toward them, when they did finally understand that they needed help and they needed someone to talk to, I was there.
If you don't have that compassion and if they don't want it, you still give it, you still have it available, you still leave your heart open and you try to be a better person. I have told this to so many people, and it's. And it's almost a mantra for. For me, we are all broken.
Nobody has it all made people seem to think they have. You know, oh, Danny, he's got all the success in the world, but you have failures that you obsess about.
I want to try to give more than I take, love more than I hate and listen more than I speak. I'm broken. We're all broken. But I'm trying to be better the next day.
So there are going to be people that do not want me to be compassionate to them or to give them love. I've got to keep giving because there'll be one day that they'll need it and they'll want it.
Danny Brown:Would you say being present or being available is the purest form of love.
Sean Dillon:Then Listening is the purest form of love, Danny. That's what it is. How many times have someone said to you, all I wanted was someone to listen to what I had to say?
It's not a matter of if they are right or wrong about what they have to say.
How many family dinners have we all sat through with that uncle that said the most horrible or terrible things in the world, but all he wanted was someone to listen to him?
Danny Brown:Yeah, the family dinners are a great example. And it's always the uncle, for some reason. I'm not sure why, maybe, but we should just stop Inviting uncles to dinners. Avoid all the drama.
But I like that drama is going.
Sean Dillon:To be there no matter what.
Danny Brown:Yeah, no, no, I like that. And like you say, it's how we respond to that drama.
You know, do we enable it, do we enhance it, or do we understand where it's coming from and try converse about it?
Sean Dillon:Exactly.
Danny Brown:I like that. I like that a lot. Well, that was a nice question there and a really, really nice answer. So thank you for that, Sean.
Sean Dillon:I appreciate you. What you got next left?
Danny Brown:Let's have a look at question number three. Okay, Sean, question three. And I feel I may know the answer to this based on the answer you just gave. But question number three.
Have you ever cried at a movie?
Sean Dillon:Oh, never. Never ever.
Danny Brown:Really? Yeah. You're laughing. Okay, that was gonna throw me for a loop if that was correct.
Sean Dillon:If a movie does its job and can give a way to convey a story, an emotion, a feeling, then it should. Now I'm not going to say that Terminator made me cry. I'm not going to say that Saw made me cry.
But if the movie has a message, a meaning, and it can convey it with an emotional thing, and I don't know what that is, it depends on each thing, it depends on each movie. But if it can convey a emotion and it can do it in a way, yeah, it can make you cry.
Danny Brown:So I've got two little bonus follow ups here then just on that. What was the last, the first one, what was the last movie you cried at?
Sean Dillon:I've got the funny answer and then the real answer, the funny answer, Old Yeller. You know, it always gets me right here.
Danny Brown:I think that's a given though. Old Yeller.
Sean Dillon:The thing is, is that I don't watch a lot of. My wife is the one who wants to go and watch those heart wrenching movies and I just want to go see things blow up.
So, I mean, I can't remember the last time I cried at a movie, but I know I've cried at movies.
Danny Brown:Is there one you mentioned that, you know, you want to see things blow up? Did you? Maybe not so cry, but so much.
But I'm thinking of something like Saving Private Ryan at the, the end of that, where all hell is breaking loose and then it's Tom Hanks in a single shot. Like you get emotional with these kind of movies too? Or is that you're. You're still in ensconced in the action?
Sean Dillon:I think you're ensconced with the action. I mean that right there, you know, it all Depends, but I think you're right there. Yeah, I. I just don't. I. It's one of those things where I.
Just looking. No, I can't. I can't really say that there is a. A movie. No, I thought about it.
Danny Brown:That's all good. We've got Old Yeller, and we've got. Maybe we have to make an elephant movie. But nothing happens to the elephant, obviously.
It's like the John Wick movies.
Sean Dillon:Oh, yeah, of course, of course. To do something. To do to the elephant.
Danny Brown:No, no, no. I want to put that out there.
Sean Dillon:Elephant, nothing. What did that elephant do to you? Have you ever ridden an elephant, Danny?
Danny Brown:Oh, no, I have not. No. I get scared of horses. I'm sure I'd be okay with elephants for some reason, but I got bit by a horse when I was a lot younger, and since then, I.
I just loathe. Not loathe them. That's horrible. Very scared of them. So I'm loathe to go near them, I should say.
Sean Dillon:Okay.
Danny Brown:Have you?
Sean Dillon:I've. I've never. I. I've. I've been. Been near elephants. I've petted elephants. I went to the Barnum and Bailey Circus and.
And fed the elephants, but I have never cried in an elephant.
Danny Brown:Not even Dumbo, but I guess. Dumbo. Yeah. Kind of sad movie.
Sean Dillon:You're. I think. I think. I think the. The. The best elephant movie that you have to bring up is. Is Dumbo. So, you know, but remember, Dumbo.
Dumbo could fly without the feather.
Danny Brown:Yeah. And I still prefer the animated, like the old cartoon version versus the remake. The remake was fine, but the old animated version was classic.
Classic Disney.
Sean Dillon:Perfect.
Danny Brown:Perfect. Speaking of perfect, we have perfectly reached the midway stage, so let's have a look and see what comes up for question number four.
Okay, question four, Sean. What's the craziest or most out of character thing you've ever done?
Sean Dillon:Nothing.
Danny Brown:So nothing out the wheelhouse.
Sean Dillon:Look, there is. I have dressed up as Santa Claus. I've been in the eagle costume. I have danced for kids who were sick at a children's hospital. There is. It's life.
If you are afraid of living, why are you here? If you are afraid of stuff, why. Why are you living? I think there are things that I won't do. I won't skydive. I won't.
You know, I don't like heights, but. As in, you know, out of character stuff. For the longest time, I wouldn't. Well, here. Here's the thing. For the longest time, I wouldn't do interviews.
I wouldn't do interviews because I hated people asking about me. That's why I started being on the mic is so I could ask other people questions. And I had a podcaster ask me, why don't you do interviews?
I said, not about me. Why don't you talk about yourself? It's not about me. It's never been about me.
So I think the craziest or most out of character thing that I would ever do would be actually talk about me and my history.
Danny Brown:Kind of like what we're doing now, but not. Well. Yeah, I guess a little bit. But you mentioned obviously dress up, so I like the fact that you dress up.
And obviously the work that you did there with the hospital and the kids at the hospital was amazing. You mentioned you dressed up as an ego. Now, was that the bird eagle or was that like a Glenn Frey or a Don Henley kind of deal?
Sean Dillon:No, we're talking full eagle costume for Fourth. Fourth of July.
Danny Brown:Oh, wow.
Sean Dillon:Walking down three miles and in a hundred five degree heat in eagle costume and then passing out, you know, as the craziest. Yeah, I've done it.
Danny Brown:I couldn't imagine. I mean, obviously the eagle makes sense for the fourth of July, but I couldn't imagine in the Texas heat. I've not been to Texas. Have I been to Texas?
No, I haven't, but I've been to, like, Florida that's really humid and sticky there. And, like, the. The thought of putting on a feathery, big, heavy costume. Fair play to you, mate. That's.
That's, you know, a better man than me when it comes to. Well, that for sure.
Sean Dillon:It's the fourth of July. We'll do anything for independence.
Danny Brown:I can't say anything because I'm a Brit, obviously, so anything I would say would be probably, you know, like, bad. So. But that's cool. Like I said, I couldn't see it. So I guess maybe the most out of character thing would be doing something very, very opposite.
Like you say, you know, being on a show where you're talking about yourself and your history as opposed to being the host that brings these stories out of your guests.
Sean Dillon:Exactly.
Danny Brown:Well, I appreciate you coming on the show and the one that you caused to go defunct previously, even though we said it wasn't really. I've got it.
Sean Dillon:I did not cause you stop doing the show, Danny. Stop making the excuse you couldn't handle, the pressure you couldn't handle when the lights hit you. And we know the truth. We know the truth.
I'm rubbing my hands together because I know we are one question away from me asking my question to you. So I have got a doozy for you.
Danny Brown:Well, see, now I'm genuinely nervous. I will say if anybody's curious about the show that Sean and I were talking about, there are three episodes up on YouTube.
If you go to my podcast channel and I'll leave the links in the show notes, you'll find it there. It was called My Other Podcast Is, and the video version of that is up there with the three episodes.
And you can see exactly what Sean was talking about where I stared like a deer in the headlights of an oncoming truck when the camera started recording. Well, in the meantime, let's have a look at. I feel I want to string this one along though. In the meantime, let's find out what question next.
Number five is interesting.
Okay, Sean, and I don't know if you've been like, from Texas or not, but question number five, Sean, would you leave your hometown forever or stay in your hometown forever?
Sean Dillon:I've never lived in. I've lived in so many places. New York, Texas, Ohio. So I've. Growing up, I never knew what a hometown meant.
You know, Lubbock is the closest thing to a hometown for me. I've lived more in Lubbock these last thirty years than I ever did in any other town in any other city for any length of time.
I mean, the longest time I lived in any city was maybe two, three years.
Danny Brown:And would you. So you mentioned you obviously you live in Lubbock and Lubbock, Texas. That's where Buddy Holly is from, correct?
Sean Dillon:Correct. Buddy Holly.
Danny Brown:Buddy Holly, one of my all time favorites. You weren't born in Lubbock, were you? So would you class Lubbock because you've lived there the longest?
Your actual hometown or the place you were born as maybe your hometown and now Lubbock is your adopted hometown. Do you even define it like that?
Sean Dillon:I wouldn't define that at all. I think that home is where your heart is and I think that's where it's different.
You know, if my hometown is wherever my wife and my kids are, you know, I'm going to be going up in a couple weeks to watch my son graduate from Cincinnati. And for that moment, that time, that's going to be where my home is.
My home is where my family and where my family is, whether it be in Cincinnati, whether it be in Cleveland, whether it be in New York, whether it be in Dallas, whether it be in Lubbock, whether it be Oklahoma City, whether it be, you know, J. Oklahoma I think we all go, well, I was born X and that's where my home.
I think we put too much stock into where we think we're from, but we're really from wherever the people that we care about and love are around.
Danny Brown:It's like the Marvin Gaye song, like, wherever I lay my hat, that's my home. And I like that. Do you feel that sometimes because you mentioned, obviously family's very important to you. Clearly.
Do you think your hometown identity changes as you have children?
So maybe if it was just you and your wife pre kids, maybe less of a hometown identity because you might have liked to travel or go to different places and then with kids, maybe it's more settled.
Sean Dillon:Nope. Nope, not at all. My wife, Joanna, is one of the saltiest, sweetest, wonderful women in this world. She encourages me to be a better man each day.
She lifts me up when I am at my lowest. She picks me up from. She pulls me down from when. When I think I'm better than I should be. She keeps me grounded.
And she is probably the best thing in my life. Next to my rescue dog, Sunny. I'm just checking if she was going to walk back, walk back in.
But as Jo is my life, Shelby is my life, my daughter, Ryan is my life, my son. It's not a matter of, you know, one person. One person does not define a life.
The people and friends and family, you know, sometimes family isn't about who you were born with. Family could be, you know, I've got friends who are in Oklahoma and they've watched me at my lowest and they've helped me at my.
Helped me to become who I am right now. And I didn't choose them. I didn't get to. I didn't get to choose them as family, but they're part of my family.
Sometimes family are the people that you are related to and the people that you choose to bring into your life.
Danny Brown:And I think that's a perfect way to tie everything together from our conversation because it ties perfectly back to when you mentioned you shared that story of when you were there for your friend. Even when sometimes your friend was trying to push you away, didn't want you, but you were there.
And I'm sure he looks at you as family as well, Sean, so I appreciate that answer, mate.
Sean Dillon:Thank you always, Danny. Now.
Danny Brown:As is our want to make it fair on every guest, I put you on the spot for thirty, thirty five minutes or whatever. It's only fair. I'm going to dread saying this line, as I always do. But it's only fair that I now throw the question chair over to you, good sir.
Sean Dillon:What does creativity mean to you? Is it free flowing or does it involve your heart and soul?
Because we have to be creative to create podcasts like Beyond the Mic with Sean Dillon or Five Random Questions or my other podcast or all the great podcasts that are out there. What does creativity mean to you and how does it make you a better person?
Danny Brown:I think, I think it's a bit both you'd mentioned there. Is it about the creation process or the freedom? And I think if I think artists and movie makers and like singers, bands, etc.
That I, I love, like go watch, et cetera, there's always something that's distinctly them. You know, the directing style of Jan De Bont, for example. He might not be everybody's cup of tea, but you know what you're going to get with him.
You know, the musical style of Bjork, you know, if you listen to her albums and it's. I think it's creativity. Creativity is what that person brings that might be different. Or is that individuality?
I think of my, like you shared, you know, about your family. And I think of my two kids when they were younger. And any kid I feel is probably like this, where they're creative from a very young age.
They'll try anything, though. Nothing's out of bounds for them. Nothing's. Well, that can't be done because of whatever, you know. And they'll always color outside the lines.
They don't care about lines. And I feel creativity is what we are as people until it's taught out of us. And that may not make sense.
I'll try explaining it without going long winded rambling.
I find that either as parents, as educators, as adults, we can take creativity away from kids and that stops them being creative in later life because you take the fear out. You say you have to color between the lines. It's, it's silly. You're making a mess, it's smudgy.
You've got to stop believing in this book because you're, you're ten years old now. You shouldn't be reading this book now. You're too old or whatever.
So I feel like creativity, and this might not make sense, but I feel like creativity is our ability to just go wherever and it makes us feel right and good and if others like it, great.
Sean Dillon:So do you feel that creativity is the absence of fear?
Danny Brown:Yeah, I would say so. I think that it kind of bridges that bravery because if you talk about fear.
You've got to have the yin yang and obviously you've got fear, bravery, that kind of stuff. But I feel so. Because it's not caring if no one likes it. It's not caring if someone's going to put you down.
It's not caring if one person thinks it's good, but the rest of the world thinks it's horrible. It's your creation, it's what you thought of, it's what you like, it's what you've brought to the world.
I don't know if that answers your question, mate. I feel like I've kind of gone on a little tangent trying to. And I think that's the thing with creativity. It's. Is it definable?
Sean Dillon:I never said there was a right or wrong answer. I mean, come on, five random questions. Every question is an adventure. And, you know, we have to be brave to be creative.
Danny Brown:I would agree. What would you just. If I'm allowed to throw it back at you, what would you define as creativity?
Sean Dillon:Oh, he wants a sixth.
Danny Brown:I'm not going for a sixth question. You can say, hey, Danny, I've only got paid for five. Get out of here. He didn't get paid, by the way. I'm too cheap getting paid.
Sean Dillon:Creativity to me is the ability of sharing skills, talents, your emotions, anything that sets you aside from another person.
Because there are things that we are good at. Me, asking questions, listening. Those are things that I'm good at. Woodworking. No, you try to ask me to be creative with woodworking.
That's just asking for a hospital visit. You know, you helping people be a better podcaster. You're incredibly creative at that. You're incredibly passionate about that.
I think creativity is wherever you find the passion to share skills that you have and that you're good at with others.
Danny Brown:You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to use Decript's overlord or underlord tool, and I'm going to flip my voice onto that answer and I'm going to make that my answer and I will whatever you online and try and counter that. No, I like that. That's a great definition.
Sean Dillon:Well, you know, I've been back up recording, so I've got. I've got the. I've got the proof here. Right there.
Danny Brown:Exactly. I don't even use Descript, so I. I can't even nick your voice there for that. But I like that. I like that.
I'm going to take that and take a pinch of that as well. But yeah, I like that, well, I get. I mean, thanks for the question and like I say, I. I find it hard to define it, but I like your answer.
So Sean, I really enjoyed this. I'm going to say as much as I enjoyed all the chat and I did and that's the last time I'm going to reference that. That's the last time.
But I really enjoyed this. I knew I would. I always enjoy talking to you, mate.
For people that want to listen to any of the six hundred or all of the six hundred episodes or plus episodes of Beyond the Mic.
Also maybe your sports podcast and stuff that you do, which I'll leave the links to in the show notes or just connect and hang out with you online or even maybe come and visit you in Texas sometimes. How can people best connect with you and listen to all the cool stuff you do?
Sean Dillon:You can find me on BeyondTheMike.com or anywhere you can find on podcast Beyond the Mic with Sean Dillon. S E A N D I L L O N. I'm always available on the Goodpods app and you can also find me at Beyond the Mic Captivate fm.
Danny Brown:We have to make that URL easier for you, mate. Well, I will get like a nice little short URL for you, but yeah, and as always, I will leave these links in the show notes.
So whatever podcast app you're listen on or if you're listening online at the website, be sure to check out the show notes and everything will link out to Sean and all the cool stuff that he's doing. So again, Sean, I really appreciate you coming on today and taking part in Five Random Questions.
Sean Dillon:Danny, it's always a pleasure, my friend.
Danny Brown:Thanks for listening to Five Random Questions. If you enjoyed this week's episode, be sure to follow for free on the app. You're currently listening on or online at FiveRandomQuestions.com.
And if you feel like leaving a review, well, that would make me happier than a continuation of this show after a hundred episodes after having someone on who's clearly a jinx as a guest. I'm joking. But seriously, if you want, if you really want to leave a review, it would make my day. Until the next time, keep asking those questions.
