00:00 Introduction and Greetings

00:06 DMIN Class Update

02:14 Discussion on Pilate's Wife's Dream

10:01 The Resurrection Accounts

15:00 The Great Commission

19:06 Mark's Gospel and Textual Criticism

24:53 Conclusion and Prayer

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to another edition

of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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Hello again.

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It's good to see you all.

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It's good to have you virtually.

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Thank you.

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You're you had a class for your DMIN.

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How's that going, by the way?

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Give us an update.

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Not a whole lot happening right now.

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Lots of reading.

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I have two classes that I've

currently been working on.

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One is happening over the course of

a week in January where it requires

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a lot of pre-work, and then there's

post-work, and then the other

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one that I'm doing right now is.

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A class that's designed around

creating my formal proposal for

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my ministry research project.

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So I'll have that done by, I don't

know, the end of December at all,

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all the work that I'm supposed to do.

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The professor's like, Hey, sorry

you picked the bad time to do this,

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but this is what has to happen.

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Yeah, there's all the

things that you have to do.

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So it's a good class.

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I'm glad that I'm starting it, but it's

also gonna be kind of inconvenient.

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But it, but a good, but a good

inconvenience, a good thing nonetheless.

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Yeah.

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And you've got some ideas on what

you're gonna do with that project.

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So Yeah.

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I still have I haven't gotten a formal

approval yet, but I really like the idea.

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It seems great to me and I feel

like it serves a need for us,

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and it could be useful for many

years to come if I do it right.

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God willing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I agree with you, you were

talking to us about your idea for it.

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I think it would be really beneficial

for us as a church, which is the

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whole point of a DMIN, and that's

one of the things that differentiates

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a DMIN from a PhD doctor of

ministry, not doctor of ministry.

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Yeah.

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Not a, not a demon.

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No.

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Not a demon.

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Yeah.

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Not the same thing, but the PhD is

more for the academics, so the PhD

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is gonna get super nuanced and,

dive into real specifics on their

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project or their dissertation.

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Because the point of a PhD

dissertation is no one else has ever

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studied this field before, right?

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You're charging new territory, right?

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You're making a unique contribution to

the scholarly field versus a doctor in

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ministry is a practical degree, which is

more geared at, Hey, we want you this to

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benefit you but also benefit your church.

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And so that's why the project is

more geared towards the church as a

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whole than it is towards a specific

contribution to an academic field.

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Though both are accomplished, I

think when it's done well, that's

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right, and I'm excited about it.

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It's been great so far.

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I've really enjoyed doing it.

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A, alongside all the stuff that

we're doing here, I'm chomping at

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the bit to get rolling on this thing.

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So yeah, pray that it goes well

and that it goes quickly and that

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I don't have to take off too much

time from Thanksgiving and Christmas

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to do all these great things.

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Yeah.

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Well, hey, we had a question

written in by somebody who is

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near and dear to your own heart.

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Yeah.

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Do you wanna set this up for us?

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Our most beautiful listener, inside and

out, the holiest and godliest, absolutely.

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The most amazing person that I know.

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And I know a lot of people, lemme

just tell you, I know lots of people.

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You sound like Trump right now.

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I just gotta tell you,

I know lots of people.

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I know lots of people and this one

is head and shoulders above the rest.

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And so she writes in and she wants to

know where In Matthew 27, pilot's wife has

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this dream and she wants to know whether

that dream is from God or from the devil.

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And based on her reasoning,

neither one's a good option.

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Why would God want to interrupt

the sacrifice of his son?

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That was his ultimate plan.

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The devil seems like he

would want to do that.

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Yet, why would, what's

going on behind that?

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Why would he want to enter

into Judas and sell out Jesus?

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It seems that there's a mix up here.

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What's happening?

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Who's provoking the dream

and what do we do about that?

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Yeah, that is a good question, insightful

question, and it's a difficult one

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to answer because we don't really

know the content of the dream.

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Other than it says in verse 19 of Matthew

chapter 27, that his wife, pilot's

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wife sent word to him saying, have

nothing to do with that righteous man.

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For I have suffered much

because of him today in a dream.

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We see examples in scripture of God

speaking to people through dreams,

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and certainly we have seen examples

in scripture of demonic possession and

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oppression, which can impact people.

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And so the.

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The two potentials there.

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I understand that.

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I don't think Satan knew that the

cross was gonna be the death blow.

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And she even points that out

when she says, you know, why

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would he then have entered into,

to Judas to carry out the plan?

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Is Satan not being omniscient?

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Could not have known.

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The rest of the story.

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And so Satan was not aware

of the resurrection impending

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three days after Christ's death.

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I think Satan was believing that he had

won at the cross and at the crucifixion.

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So that's where I would say I, I would

hesitant to attribute this to a demonic

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being at this point because of that.

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But then again.

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What would Jesus, or what would God

be doing here other than, and this was

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something that I noticed with pastor

Mark as we were recording yesterday, is

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through the trials, there are so many

times when other people outside of the

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disciples, outside of Jesus' own words,

testified to the innocence of Christ.

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And so here in her dream, she says, have

nothing to do with that righteous man.

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And so even there you have from pilot's

wife who really, this is the only

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interaction with her that we get.

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She's even another voice testifying

to the fact that he's righteous.

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And so maybe my best read on it

would be, this is another example

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of where when PIL goes to the crowds

and says, I find no guilt in him.

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His wife is saying,

Hey, be careful because.

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I don't think he's guilty.

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My, this dream that I had

implies that he's righteous.

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And so it's again and again and again,

God, through these voices saying he

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was the innocent sacrifice, which was

important for us, for the purpose of

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the atonement and so forth and so on.

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Your analysis assumes that Satan does

have access into our dream state.

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Is that possible, or is that only

true for unbelievers or is that,

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can a Christian have a dream that's

influenced by the demonic, whether.

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Directly, indirectly, something like that.

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Does the devil have

the ability to do this?

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And that's where getting into

the realm of understanding what's

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taken place in the dream state and.

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The ability to influence those thoughts.

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And would that require possession

or is that something that can

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be influenced from the outside?

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I'd say that is above my pay grade

in general, but I would say if you're

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giving yourself over to things that are

evil, if you're giving yourself over to

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things of the occult and other things

like that, or even for a Christian,

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somebody who's, taking a keen interest

in those things and in horror movies

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and things like that you are putting

yourself in a position where what you

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take in is gonna influence what comes out.

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And I think what you take in can

also influence your dreams can also

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influence what thoughts you are

having and entertaining overnight.

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So, she's not a believer and so I, I

would say, I think I'd be more comfortable

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saying he has the ability to influence

the dreams of unbelievers than believers.

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But I do think believers can have their

dreams influenced by things that are

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sinful and ungodly if they're filling

their minds with too much of that.

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Yeah.

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It seems to me like you would be able

to be influenced in some capacity.

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We don't know what the

spiritual realm looks like.

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We don't know what it feels like.

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We don't know how it operates, but

we do know that there are forces that

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are working against us and there are

forces that are working for us now.

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It's not a mutual battle where

it's good versus evil and

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who's gonna prevail in the end.

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We know that God controls all things.

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I don't think it's a stretch,

though, to suggest that.

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The devil being the active agent that

he is with his minions are working at

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all times to do damage to the church

and to his people any way that they can.

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So I can't deny it, I can't dismiss

it, but neither can I say with

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a hard, fast fist on the table

saying it's, this is the way it is.

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But I am cautious and I'm aware of that.

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With regard then to Pilate's wife,

is it possible that the Lord gave

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him the dream or gave her the dream

in order to provoke Pilate, who is

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not necessarily a good guy to say?

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Make sure that you don't involve

yourself with this to the degree

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that you might otherwise do.

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In other words, maybe this is a mercy of

God to prevent Pilate from doing this.

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Not that he's not guilty.

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Right.

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He still is.

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Right.

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He still held account.

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In fact, that's what I think

Peter says in Acts chapter one,

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two, or he says that it was.

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Through Pilates inherited

that Jesus was given over.

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So I don't think he's immune

from guilt, but he's less guilty.

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Mm-hmm.

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Maybe this is a mercy of God to spare

him of the full wrath that he otherwise

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would've obtained if he had been

active in the condemnation of Jesus.

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In this case, he's only passive, which

still to me means he's guilty, just less

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guilty than he otherwise would've been.

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Yeah, I could see that a hundred

percent because he does multiple

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times after this attempt to,

get the crowd to release Jesus.

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Yeah.

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And he is unsuccessful in it.

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But contrary to God's desires

though, which is again where

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her question comes from, right?

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This is not what God wanted,

but still it prevented.

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So here's what I think.

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God knows and has decreed.

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This is going to happen, but doesn't

necessarily mean that it has to be Pilate.

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That he has to be the one to say,

I condemn this man to be guilty and

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he's going to be this, this, and this.

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He pushes back on the Jewish

Sanhedrin and the Pharisees

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to say, you guys decide this.

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You make the decision.

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Well, and even, it's John's account

where Pilate is talking with Jesus and.

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He says, don't you know that I've

got the authority to release you?

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And Jesus says, you would have

no authority unless it was

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granted to you from above.

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Therefore, greater is the sin of

the one who betrayed me to you.

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And so even there, there's evidence

of you've got Judas and you've got

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Pilate, and both of them are guilty.

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And yet Jesus is there implying that

one is more guilty than the other.

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Right?

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Which shows us that there are

gradations of guilt even as there

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are gradations of punishment.

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You can be more or less guilty

in your life as you go about.

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Your walk with Christ.

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And I think that's true for everybody, not

just for the unbelievers, but all of us.

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The measure of our knowledge will also

have an impact on the measure of our.

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Our reward and also our loss

of reward depending on our

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obedience to those things.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, good question.

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Excellent question.

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Excellent question.

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It was so good.

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Yep.

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I almost fell over.

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It was so good.

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Yeah.

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Hey, our favorite listener,

in case you guys are wondering

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who wrote that question in it.

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No, no, no.

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Let 'em figure it out.

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We'll let you figure it out.

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If they, if they're still guessing,

they don't deserve to know.

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That's true.

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Yeah.

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By the way I got a gift in the mail.

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Oh yeah.

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So somebody happened to send me a

lid for my head, something that,

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that goes on top, a little hat there.

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And it says something on the front

of it that I don't want us to get

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an e for explicit on the podcast.

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So I'll be careful on that one.

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But it says.

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World Series Champions,

Los Angeles Dodgers.

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Oh, the woo woo woo.

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Yeah.

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So anyways whoever said that to

me, thank you so much for that.

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I appreciate the sentiment.

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I appreciate the thought on that.

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It matches your back

tattoo with JohE Tani.

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It's, you know, I'm surprised.

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I was debating getting that, but then I

finally was like, you know what, this hat,

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this is, it just ties it all together.

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This is it.

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Amanda was for it.

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I'm glad it's there.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Or not.

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Or not.

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Hey Matthew 28.

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Mark 16.

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Matthew 28.

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We have the account of the

resurrection of Christ.

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And as it opens up here, we read about

two Marys showing up at the tomb.

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And I think there's a caveat here

that's necessary to understand how

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all of these different accounts of

the resurrection coalesced together.

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'cause it says in 28, 1 that

Mary Magdalene and the other

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Mary went to see the tomb.

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Now, in the other accounts, we found

out that there were other women

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beyond just these two that went.

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And I think that's important because.

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Is one of Jesus's first resurrection

Appearances that we don't have

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recorded here by Matthew actually is

Jesus' appearance to Mary Magdalene.

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And she, it appears,

stays behind at the tomb.

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The other women run back to go

tell the disciples, which is what

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Matthew's implication is here.

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And as we read this, it would seem

that maybe Matthew's implying that

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they all left, but because of the

other accounts of the resurrection,

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we know that Jesus actually

encounters Mary Magdalene in the tomb.

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She's weeping because she

thinks that the body has been

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stolen and we will get there.

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But remember she talks to the

gardener and she says, Hey, you

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know, where did you put him?

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Just tell me where the body is.

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And she finds out this

gardener is actually Jesus.

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So even though Matthew only records

two women, there were other women that

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the other gospel accounts record there

for us, including Salome and some

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others that I believe were probably the

ones that ran back to the disciples.

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Meanwhile, you had Mary Magdalene who

had an intense devotion to Christ

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and the world has taken that and made

that something that it shouldn't be.

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Dan Brown, da Vinci Code,

some other things like that.

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Marriage was.

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Insanely grateful for Jesus.

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She's the one that's anointing his

feet with the expensive perfume.

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And so I think that's why

she lingers at the tomb.

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But as I was reading through the gospel

accounts this time I stopped and I had

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to think to myself, okay, how does all

the, do all these things fit together?

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'cause Matthew seems to imply

that these two women went,

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and then both of them left.

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But then Jesus appears

to marry another time.

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It's hard to put all these things

in concert together, but I think

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that's what's happening here

in the resurrection accounts.

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Yeah, I was just gonna ask you about

that because it is challenging to

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harmonize the four gospels into one story.

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Yeah.

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Into one unit or one experience, and in

particular, John chapter 20, speaking

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of Mary Magdalene says, now, in the

first day of the week, Mary Magdalene

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came to the tomb early while it was

still dark, and saw that the stone

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had been taken away from the tomb.

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So what's happening here?

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Is this just a focal point on Mary when

there's others with her and it's spending

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unique time looking at her experience?

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Or is this, did she come back

after the disciples came and went?

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What's happening here?

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And the short answers we're not sure.

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Right.

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There's questions about the timing

of these events and whether this

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came first and that came second.

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And I think the point for us to realize

here is that scripture, especially

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with the four gospels, they're all,

telling about the same story, but again,

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they're using different perspectives

or vantage points to elicit the kind

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of response they're looking for.

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Now, they're not being loosey

goosey with the details.

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They're not making stuff up, but

they are focusing on certain events.

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Again, whether it's one angel.

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Or there's two one gospel writer

is focusing on the one angelic

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being, whereas the others are

looking at both of them, right?

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It doesn't mean they're liars or

that someone's just being inaccurate.

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But truth doesn't demand precision.

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Truth can still be true even if

you're just using approximations.

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Truth can also still be true,

even if you're saying, I saw this

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and not that that doesn't mean

that you're being loosey goosey.

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The way that the writers

approached telling the story.

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Right.

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And we saw that earlier in the gospel

with the Garrison Dimani acts too.

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Was there one Demoniac?

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Was there two?

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One or two?

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Yeah.

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How do we deal with that?

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Yeah, so well, from here we

have the the guards report.

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The guards report about.

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What has happened and the Sanhedrin

bribes of the guards to tell a lie.

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And you just wonder what the Sanhedrin

must have been thinking at this point.

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They have the firsthand account from the

guards, and again, second Corinthians

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four comes to mind here because of the

God of this world blinding the eyes

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of the lost to keep them from seeing

the glory of the light of the gospel.

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The Sanhedrin was kept, at

least a lot of them were.

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Not all of them.

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We saw this because remember Joseph.

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Arimathea was a member of the Sanhedrin.

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You also had Nicodemus who was

there at the burial of Christ.

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And so not all of them, but a lot

of them are so stubborn in their

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unbelief that even in the face of this

report of the resurrection, they're

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gonna tell the guards to tell a lie

in order to cover this thing up.

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And surely they saw Jesus, I'm sure

the Sanhedrin did throughout his 40

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days as he was going about, or at

least they encountered others that did.

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And so it's fascinating and it just

reminds us again of the necessary act of

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God that is regeneration to give somebody

the faith to be able to believe in Christ.

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Right.

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And this is interesting for a number

of reasons because it's one of those

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things where if my family could just

see someone being raised from the dead.

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Surely they would believe, right?

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If my friends could just see that

this had taken place and here we have

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it, that that's not necessarily true.

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Human nature is such that it's not

just evidence that we're looking at,

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there is a heart condition that either

encourages or prohibits our faith.

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And for those who are born again,

that is made alive by Christ through

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the spirit, we have the eyes to see.

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We can see things like this and

say, yeah, I wanna believe this.

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I trust in this.

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This is where my hope lies.

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And for others, they see this and

they scratch their chin and say,

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well, right, maybe this, maybe

that, maybe you know, atmospheric

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conditions and maybe it's swap gas.

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Who knows?

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No one can know possibly.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And that's, yeah, because we still think,

yeah, exactly the same things today.

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If only they could see, a,

after this we get Jesus's

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commissioning of his disciples.

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And this is where we take our church

mission statement from, which is to

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make disciples by reaching people for

Christ, teaching people to be like

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Christ and training them to serve Christ.

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And so here we get that from the

Great Commission passage here

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because we see that laid out for

Jesus when he commends people to go

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and make disciples of all nations.

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There's the reaching component.

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And then he goes on and he says that they

need to be baptizing them in the name of

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the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit,

and teaching them, there's the teaching

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to observe all that I have commanded you.

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There's a training that's implied

in that as well as we think about

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that, and then behold, I'm with

you always to the end of the age.

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Just that encouragement for the disciples,

knowing that the ascension was nearby that

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he was gonna go to be with the father.

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And he's just reminding that his

presence would be there even through

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the spirit, as we talked about in John

chapter 15, that he was gonna leave

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the helper behind as he ascended.

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But here's the mission of the church right

here in the Great Commission passage.

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Two questions that people

might have about that.

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And the first would be this.

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Jesus isn't talking to the church,

he's talking to the disciples.

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He calls 'em a disciples.

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He doesn't call 'em apostles.

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How do we know that this is

instruction for the church?

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Because that's the rest of the story.

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That this is what the disciples go

out and do and we're about to get

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there in our reading, in the Book of

Acts, we see the birth of the church

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there, that this is part of Jesus'

plan is to cause the church to happen.

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And we see that.

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Through the day of Pentecost.

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Even what takes place on the day of

Pentecost, there is an act of God whereby

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these tongues of fire descend upon the

disciples and they proclaim the gospel.

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And then it says they were

added to that church that day.

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3000 souls, right?

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And then later on in acts were up to

5,000 men just a couple of chapters later.

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So the church is clearly God's plan,

and so the disciples understood in the

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application of the Great Commission,

that that was gonna be the church.

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And we have followed in

those footsteps ever since.

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Some churches will have the

catchphrase or something similar.

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And this is my second question.

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Love God, love people,

something like that.

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Yeah.

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And they focus heavily

on those two things.

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And Es especially.

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Expressing those things

via things like good works.

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Like, oh, we go and clean the

schools during the summer.

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We donate X amount of

food to the food pantry.

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We give it out for Thanksgiving

and things like that.

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So we love God, love people.

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It would they take issue with this passage

and say, well, yeah, we see this, but

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here's how we see this in application.

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Is that a bad way to look at

the way that church functions?

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Or are we missing something?

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Are those two things the same,

different compatible, incompatible.

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Yeah.

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I mean, there, there's

a call to that, right?

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Jesus, even in the Sermon on the Mount

said let others see your good works and

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give glory to your father who's in heaven.

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So there's an element to where

we should be doing good deeds.

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We should be salt and light and even

there's a, social component to that.

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The problem is when we look at

the social component of that and

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overemphasize it into this is

what the role of the church is.

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The role of the church is

to reach people for Christ.

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The role of the church is

to be the mouthpiece of God.

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Romans chapter 10, even to see lost

people, repent and believe in Jesus

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Christ as their Lord and Savior.

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And so while the church

shouldn't necessarily.

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Necessarily neglect those pursuits of

being a light and doing things like we do

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with Fall Fest and other things like that.

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And being involved in our community.

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That's not the mission.

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And when we make that the mission,

what we've done is we've made the

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church the world maybe a more pleasant

place to be as the ship is going down.

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Right.

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As our sending pastor always used to

compare it, we're on a ship that's sinking

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and there's lifeboats, and as believers,

we know where the lifeboats are.

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Mm-hmm.

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And so you may.

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Go into the sinking ship and realize the

restaurant needs to be swept and mopped

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and to only care about the social gospel,

is to go out and sweep the floors of the

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restaurant while the ship is going down.

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It's like, okay, well , the people in

the restaurant may enjoy that for a

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brief amount of time, but ultimately

they're all gonna perish because you

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didn't tell them where the lifeboats are.

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And so as Christians, we have to be sink.

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This is the key.

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This is salvation.

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Yeah, that's a really

good way to put that.

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And perhaps you might even argue

the best way to love God and to love

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people the best way to do good to them.

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Is by making disciples of them.

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Yeah.

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To help them love the Lord for sure.

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And to glorify him with their

obedience, their faith-filled obedience

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that is not their trying to earn

salvation obedience, but a response

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to his graciousness by saving us.

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So the goodest good work we

can do is by sharing Christ.

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Mm-hmm.

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And by making disciples and helping

them to love Christ as they should.

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Here according to Matthew 28.

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Yeah.

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Well, let's flip over to Mark

chapter 16, where we get another

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of the resurrection accounts here.

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And this is going to be a unique one.

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Mark's gospel is the shortest of all of

them, and his resurrection account is one

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of the shorter ones that we have as well.

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In fact probably Mark's gospel

ended after verse eight.

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Now there may have been a longer

ending to it but whether or not we

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possess that is what's in question.

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And so you'll notice much like in

John chapter eight with the one.

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Story of the woman cotton adultery,

that here you've got bracketed out

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a section in the ESV that says some

of the earliest manuscripts do not

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include Mark 16, nine through 20.

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And so what that breaks down to

essentially is we have two key

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fourth century ad manuscripts.

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That, so we're talking three hundreds.

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That, that do not include the

longer ending here of Mark.

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That's what it means by some

of the earliest manuscripts.

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There are some manuscripts that

date back to the fifth century

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and later and after that, so

later manuscripts that do have it.

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And you might think, well, why

do we have it in our Bibles?

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Then?

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There is some evidence from early church

fathers, people like Justin Martyr Tian

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and EU, who do include references to

the longer ending of March chapter 16.

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But there's others that,

that exclude it, right?

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So.

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We have to figure out

what to do with this.

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And in a church tradition eventually

emerged that attributed this longer

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section to a man named Aris, who

purportedly was a disciple of John.

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So maybe he heard from John that

Jesus said some things like this.

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There's some things in the longer

ending of Mark that you read that

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sound like other sections of the

gospels or sound like even some of

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the great commission language here.

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But then there's other things here that,

that we struggle to, to really wrap our

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minds around and apply like the handling

of poisonous snakes and things like that.

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So.

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There's some other

technical elements here.

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Even the vocabulary, the style that is

a little bit different than Mark's style

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and the rest of the gospel that would

lead us to think that this probably

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wasn't original to Mark's original account

of the gospel, so why put it in there?

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Part of the reason is if you look at

verse eight, they went out and fled from

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the tomb for trembling and astonishment

had seized them, and they said nothing

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to anyone for they were afraid.

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Period like that doesn't feel

like a good ending to the gospel.

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And so you can think why somebody would

be tempted to say, okay, well there

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must have been something more to it.

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And as good intention as it was I

really wish if this wasn't original,

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that they hadn't added it at all.

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If that's the case, then

this is not scripture.

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Correct.

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Properly speaking, we're not saying

that this is actually the word of God.

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We're saying this is maybe adjacent

someone that c cared and concerned

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themselves as saying, this needs

to be finished and I'd like to

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complete the gospel of Matthew or

Mark rather, by adding a few elements

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that maybe these are true, right?

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Maybe they're true.

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Maybe, maybe that's what

Jesus said in some context.

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But here's the thing when it comes

to what we take away from this, that

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means we really shouldn't build.

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Any theological basis on

verses nine through 20.

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Right.

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There, it's good that we have them here.

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We're not trying to hide anything.

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Christians are not trying

to nefariously rewrite the

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scriptures or change things up.

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We're just, we're trying to

be honest with the data here.

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Yeah.

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And the data is stacked against

these verses being included in the

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original manuscripts of the Bible.

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And that's important consideration when

we're talking about what the Bible is.

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The Bible is not words in the page.

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The Bible is a collection of

manuscripts that were the original.

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Autographs that's what they're

called from the original authors.

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That's what we'd call scripture.

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And the process of copying that,

that scripture into multiple

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forms, vellum being one of them.

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Animal skins, papyrus being others.

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People copy these things and copy these

things and do the use of techniques

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that we refer to this category

of thinking as textual criticism.

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It's an academic discipline whereby

you take all these copies that we have

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and then try to distill which of these

are the earliest and most reliable.

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Now it's really like I, I

oversimplified that a lot.

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But that's essentially

what's happening here.

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So when we look at verses like

this, that should not spark fear

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in your heart for the Bible.

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That should give you more confidence

that we're learning all the time

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which of these manuscripts are more

accurate and less accurate, given

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the fact that their age, their

location, and what's written on them.

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There's a lot of factors included in that.

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So all that to say this is still the

word of God verses nine through 20.

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Maybe not so much, right?

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Yeah, yeah, that's a great point.

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There's nothing that

we're hiding in there.

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You can read it for yourself

and see nowhere in there.

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Does Jesus deny to be God or anything?

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Anything like that?

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Yeah.

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There's no secret.

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There's, yeah.

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The Gospel of Thomas,

gospel of Peter, right.

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These are, those are spurious

accounts of the gospels that are

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they're called gnostic gospels.

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Those are not the same thing.

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Not even close, right?

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We're not saying, oh, the gospel

of Thomas used to be in the Bible.

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We took it out because we didn't like it.

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Not the way this process worked at all.

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Gospel of Peter, gospel

of Thomas Gospel of Mary.

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All of these are forgeries.

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They're written far later Yep.

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Than the actual gospels are written and

they're, I think they're fan fiction.

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Yeah.

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Really.

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That's what we'd call that today.

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There are people who were bored and

this is how they entertain themselves.

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They create stories that

weren't the real thing.

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And if you read any of these,

you'll find out in short order.

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This doesn't even sound like the Bible.

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Right.

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Not even close.

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It's weird.

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And I think, okay, fine, if it's

entertainment, great, but it's not

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anything close to what scripture is.

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Yeah.

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Very weird.

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But real quick, I know

we're long on this but.

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Because we just brought those up.

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Would you say that it would be a good

thing if somebody's curious about those

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things for our church to read those?

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Depends on what you mean.

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In a formal way, like the daily Bible

reading plus the gnostic gospels.

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Not so much that, but somebody's

like, okay, what is the gospel

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of Thomas, if you're interested.

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Sure.

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I mean, there's, again, we're

not hiding anything, right?

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So, Christians don't fear truth.

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We lean into it hard, right?

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We depend on that.

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Jesus says, I'm the way,

the truth and the life.

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So we're not gonna say.

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Don't do it.

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We prefer that you don't think about it.

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Is there always danger in interacting with

material that leans heretical and on the

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worst side, heretical on the better side.

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Unorthodox sub orthodox.

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Even We would say it's probably

not the best use of your time, but

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if you're interested and you find

yourself gravitating toward that, you

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got an itch that you have to scratch.

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Okay?

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Prayerfully go into that and read it.

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But remember, these are older

documents that are proven to be.

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Fake.

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They're forgeries, they're not true.

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So whatever you do with them, don't

start thinking about them as scripture.

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Yeah.

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Good word.

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Alright, let's pray.

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Lord, we thank you so much for what

these chapters record, which is the

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empty tomb, the resurrection that

Jesus did emerge from the grave.

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Otherwise, what we're doing is.

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Is pointless.

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As Paul says in one Corinthians 15,

it's vanity and so what we are so

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grateful for the resurrection of Christ.

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We wanna be a church marked

by faithfulness to the great

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commission that carries out our

mission of making disciples by

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reaching teaching and training.

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And so help us to be faithful in that

even as we are winding down on this

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year and thinking about the next year.

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I pray that you would make us

fruitful in this next year and this

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next season for reaching people.

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And and become a stronger

overall as a church.

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And so we wanna be a

faithful bride of Christ.

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We pray this in Jesus name.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Keep in your Bibles, tune in

again tomorrow for another edition

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of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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See you.

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Bye.

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PJ: Yeah.

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I would agree with

everything that you said