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Embracing Inner Game for Personal Transformation with Deepak Saini
Episode 131st August 2024 • The One Small Change Podcast • Yvonne McCoy
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In this episode, Yvonne McCoy and Deepak Saini delve into the importance of integrating personal and professional personas, the significance of small changes for health and emotional well-being, and the impact of individualized approaches to success and wellness. Deepak shares his personal journey from being a CPA to focusing on health due to his own health challenges, emphasizing the need for inner game work and addressing limiting beliefs for personal and professional progress. Yvonne highlights her own transformative experience and encourages listeners to embrace change through small positive steps.

Guest Bio:

Deepak Saini transitioned from being a CPA to focusing on health due to personal health challenges, including being morbidly obese and suffering from chronic illness. He now helps entrepreneurs with their health and emotional well-being, advocating for the importance of small changes for personal transformation.

Key Points:

- 05:42 - Importance of tying health choices to personal values and the necessity of individualized approaches to health and wellness.

- 10:18 - Addressing limiting beliefs, emotional regulation, and past traumas as crucial factors in one's success.

- 16:30 - Discussion on the impact of the school system on creativity and the importance of imagination and individuality.

- 24:55 - Action steps and the significance of identifying one's "why" before embarking on a transformational journey.

- 31:20 - Importance of recognizing areas of improvement in one's health and taking small positive steps to work on them.

Main Quote:

"Take one small step, regardless of how minor, as it can lead to building positive habits over time."

Links:

Guest's website: www.deepaksainihealth.com/freebie

Transcripts

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Hello, everybody. We're at it again. I am so

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glad that we're here for the One Small Change podcast.

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And I'm your host, Yvonne McCoy, and I bring over 30

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years of entrepreneurial experience and passion for

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discovering growth through the power of seemingly small

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change. And I wanna thank you for joining me again this week in this

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journey of exploration and transformation. And I'm

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gonna share, and also my guests, will share some

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smaller unexpected change that had, you know,

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a remarkable transformation in their growth, either their personal

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or professional or both. And so my guest today

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is Deepak Shaney. And I just wanna say

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this, we have had some interesting experiences

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together, but I am so glad that he's still willing to talk to

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me. So so, Deepak,

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how are you today? I'm I'm doing great. The weather is nice.

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It's sun is shining. I I'm I'm doing fantastic.

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So I want our audience

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to know what you do and what

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was, you know, and why you do it and kind of what the one small

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changes that had that unexpected

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impact on you. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. Really

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quickly, there's a couple things I I I do. I'm kind of in definitely in

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the health space as people can see there, Deepak say need health, and we'll we'll

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get to how I got here, because that was not my first, first career.

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I tend to work with entrepreneurs, and I have 2 different offerings. And I

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won't get into too much detail, but essentially, my hand high end offering,

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for successful entrepreneurs is is for those who, you know,

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they probably are saying to themselves, I'm a little bit

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heavier than I used to be. I'm a little bit more tired than I used

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to be. I'm not having the type of fun I used to have And that

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maybe is in the bedroom or otherwise, and they're ready to make those changes

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and actually really look at their life. And how many times entrepreneurs can understand they've

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built so busy building their business that they put some of their personal life,

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including their health on the back burner, and they're conscious enough to

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make that change. So that's that's kind of one group. And then the other group

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I work with are people who are more just you know, they have they they

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realize they have limiting beliefs. They have some emotional regulation

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issues, and they wanna handle that. They wanna get rid of some of those negative

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emotions, get some of those, rid of those limiting beliefs,

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and move their life forward either in their personal life or for their, business. And,

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hey, we've all been there, and it's always a it's it's a challenge. So that's

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that's that's who I work with. But, to your to your question of

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one small change, let me just take a step backwards. My first profession,

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as I said, being in the health field is wasn't my first thing. I'm a

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CPA by first profession. I was a I was a

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accountant, in, you know, corporate finance, corporate accounting for over

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20 years. I was someone who always struggled with with my health.

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You know, Ivan, you didn't know me back then, but I was morbidly obese as

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a as a teenager, a £100 heavier than I am now. Autoimmune

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condition, my my entire life, I get chronically sick, you know,

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3, 4 times a year for weeks on end. You know, you're just

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getting better, and you just think you're moving forward and get sick again. That was

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essentially me my almost my entire life. But what really was my

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turning point was, 2014. My youngest

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daughter, excuse me, was just a baby, and I hurt my back. Hurt my

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back so bad, I, couldn't bend over at the waist. I had no flexion.

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So I couldn't essentially do anything. Couldn't golf anymore. I couldn't run.

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Very painful to move. Very painful getting in and out of a chair. That

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includes the toilet. But I couldn't pick out my youngest daughter out of her crib.

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So that was my turning point in trying to heal myself and find

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the modalities to heal myself. And, I mean, we can take this line of

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thinking if you want, but, I like to say the western medical system wasted 18

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months of my health and had no answers for me. I found all you know,

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alternative means, alternative modalities, if you will, heal

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myself, and that started my transition of just thinking differently

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and what was actually available for me in in my life. And I realized

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I was thinking very, scarcity mindset, very small. And when I

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opened my mindset of what's possible for my health,

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that's what everything kind of started from changing that, and that what led me to

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doing what I'm doing today as as far as the profession. I I don't

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know that I ever shared with you that at one point I was

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£440. No. You did not share that.

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And lost a 150. Well, actually, I lost more than that, but

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I kept off a 100 and 50. And my small change

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that made that happen was that, I was gonna be a

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grandmother, and I wanted to be an active

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grandmother with my grandchild. I did not my grandmother, who I

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love dearly, I jokingly said was 5, you know, 5 by

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5. She was 5 foot tall and 5 foot ground. I mean, she just, you

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know, was a little butterball of love. But I didn't

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I didn't want that to be me. And so I think, you

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know, part of the big thing that

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came out of that is we we we know how

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most of the time. We just don't have a big enough why, and that's what

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I think taps into your vision. And that is, for me, the you

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know, I had gone to doctors. I had done all kinds of stuff. I'd done

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all kinds of stuff. I'd done all kinds of diets and, you know, what have

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you. But the fact that I had

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a grandchild coming was the big why that

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I you know, the change that I needed, why it was actually important to

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do this. Yeah. Yvonne, I just thank you for sharing that. I did not know

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that for how long we've we've known each other for, like, over a year now.

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I never heard that first. So thank you for sharing that. And, 2 things I'll

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say. Number 1, yes. Many of my clients, that come to me

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for any of the work that I do is either, a, they've become grandparents

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or recently become grandparents or they've become parents, and they wanna

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like that. It's the it's a wake up call for sure. And I love that

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you said the why because, again, for me, that's what it boils down

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to was my why. I wanted to be able to be able to pick up

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my youngest daughter and and and and be active with my older daughter. You know,

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I'm the I'm the kind type of dad, you know, at least when they were

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younger, they're they're too big now. But, you know, who'd, you know, throw the

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kids up in the air and spin them around and all these kind of things.

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I'm like, I couldn't do that anymore. So so my why

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at at that time was just to, like, be able to do those things again.

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And now my why to this day is basically the same, essentially the same. It's

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like, I remember how crummy life was. That was 10 years ago. I remember

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how crummy life was when I couldn't move and do those things, and I never

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wanna go back there. So all my personal practices for my own

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health line of in in that fashion. And, again, that's the first thing

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I talk with my clients regardless of what they're coming to me for or how

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we're working together is, like, what is your why? Mhmm. Why do you wanna

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make this change? So I love I love that you brought that up. Yeah. And

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and I think part of that has to do I think the other piece that

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was really important for me was that I

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needed to find I I I one of the misconceptions that I find

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all the time is that or at least that I had was I had a

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purse a a professional persona, and I had a

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personal persona. And what I've discovered is

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when you come up with philosophies or whatever you're

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doing and you can incorporate in them into both,

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you are so more you're so much more relaxed because there's just

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one one you. Right? And not only

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that, it reinforces itself in a lot of

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different ways. And so for me, what the one of the weird exercises that I

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came up with, mental exercises, was I said, when did I

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when did I feel like I was at my best? And it was I was

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21, and I came up with 3 words. But but the most

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powerful one was from a friend of mine who knew me when then, and

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she said you were the most adventurous person I'd ever met.

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And at £440, just going up and down the stairs

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was, like, there was no adventure. There was no sponsorship.

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And so everything after that, I would say both in my

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work and my personal, how can I make this adventuresome? How can I

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make this, you know, my husband said I was the most intriguing woman

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he'd ever met? So it was kind of like, I was writing these really dull

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reports, and it was like, how can I put something kinda quirky in

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it and intriguing? And I'm sure they edited it out,

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but it made me feel good. And so

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that's, you know, it kinda combined what I was looking to

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achieve in my personal life along with my business life.

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So that I was living it, you know, 247 in

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in, you know, all parts of it. Yeah. We

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we have to live our truth regard regardless, you know, we have to live our

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truth. We can't be living a persona or what have you. And if we

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and if we do and sometimes for a short period or whatever the purpose, in

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the end, it's not sustainable, and, eventually, it'll bite us in the butt.

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So the the question my audience is predominantly

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predominantly entrepreneurial women. And so one of

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the things that I'd like to find out from you is

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as you went into these different modalities,

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what were some of the things that you found that

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surprised you or that helped you a lot?

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Yeah. Great question. Like you said earlier, Yvonne, you

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said something to the fact of, like, I knew what to do. We all

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know what to do from a conceptual

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level. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna answer this a little bit

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in 2 ways in 2 different aspects to give a complete

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answer. So from a from a from a physical kinda

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health point of view, yes, we all know what to do. But, again,

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tying it to your why, as we just discussed, you

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know, what's what's truly important? What's gonna sustain us when, you know,

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that it becomes hard to make that this that decision. Right? That's putting down that

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second glass of wine or passing on that cake or whatever the case

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may be in in that in that sense. So really, really tied to that. But

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also it's like there's no one size fits all. There's no one perfect diet

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for everyone or nutrition plan or exercise plan or whatever. It's

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really getting to that nuance. Again, with my with my clients,

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I you know, we're really

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I'm really big proponent of of testing and not that testing is the be all

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end all, but, you know, it's it's having, you know, your genetic

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markers, your microbiome, having your metabolics,

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blood work, etcetera, tying that to your lifestyle goals,

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your ethnicity, your cultural norms,

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your family's dynamics, etcetera, and tying all these,

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together. That's that's the secret sauce because it just can't be, like, do this or

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do that if that doesn't resonate or from a epigenetical point

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of view is not it'll it will never work because it it's not a it's

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not a a line for you. So that's that's one because that's kind of the

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physical. The other part is actually the inner game, if you'll, which

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is what I'm really leaning into more so now. And, you

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know, not only from my my with my clients, but also myself, and I'm continues

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to do this work on myself because, hey, no one's perfect. Deepak's really not

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perfect. Is, you know, what are the limiting beliefs? You know,

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what are the things holding me back? What are some of the emotional

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regulation things while much approved or not not perfect? Not and then not that they

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ever will be perfect. And I and I like to say this as well, regardless

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of where you are on your journey and how and and your success level, and

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and success can be defined many different ways. Right? And our personal relationships can be

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money in our businesses, etcetera.

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And, Yvonne, we know some of these same people or who we would both consider,

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you know, like, oh, they're so much more successful. I aspire to be them when

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they hey. They all have limiting beliefs themselves.

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Sometimes they're the same things we struggle with or this or the scale is different.

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It but everyone has them. So this I think these are things we continuously need

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to work on. And what I find, the more I I'm steeped in this community

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and the more I work with entrepreneurs, the more it actually comes up. It's that

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inner game that's actually holding them back. It's the limiting beliefs. It's the

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emotional regulation, trauma, even past traumas,

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and that type of thing. So that's been a I I don't wanna say a

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wake up call because we intuitively all know this, but now that I do more

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of this work and I work more and more with people, You know, I

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I'm I'm working I was working with someone this morning. We talked about in, you

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know, their procrastination. I know what I need to do to build my business. I

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know I need to make the phone calls. I'm just stuck. So it's okay. Well,

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let's break this. Let's break it and get you from procrastination to motivation.

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Well, the thing I you know, one of the things that I say to people

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is it's progress, not, you know,

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perfection. It's kinda like peeling the onion. And and every

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time you get a little bit better, you hear different things. You may have

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I mean, I just somebody that I did for another podcast, they

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said something on the podcast that I'm sure they've said to me for the last

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year. And I finally went, oh my god. Is

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this is this is what you've been talking about? And I think

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the other thing is you're absolutely right. I mean, I think, you know,

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what I see so often is people

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and whether it has to do with food or whether it has to do with

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their business in a program, they try to follow a guru,

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you know, and follow the steps. But what I say is you need

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situational awareness. You need to feel confident enough that you

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can adjust and tweak and make it work for you.

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Do you know? And so one of the the weird things that has just

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happened is I made a big push

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to get my cholesterol down. It wasn't bad, but my husband's was a little bad,

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and we went to more plant based eating. And so I

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just got a call from my doctor that my iron is really low

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because we'd given up a lot of meat. We haven't adjusted accordingly.

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And it's like, it was never real high to

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begin with when, you know but I said to my husband, I think that's

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probably why the last couple weeks I've been saying, I really want you to cook

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some meat. I really want some meat.

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And so Your your body will send you the signal. Will sending me the signal.

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And it you know, it's kind of like it's, you know, the making those

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adjustments. And the other weird thing is, you know,

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I used to when I first lost my first £100, I did a lot of

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health coaching. And, you know, people are like, I have to give up

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this and I have to and I'm like, no. You you know, make a decision

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about something you can live with. You know? I

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mean, I could not give up chocolate or coffee for the rest of my life.

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I mean, it maybe, but not a you know?

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And the weird thing is I have found this brownie that I

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that I make that's high in fiber and

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it's got walnuts in it and has chi chia seeds

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and oatmeal and stuff like that. And I have it every night

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and it does not spike my blood sugar. I mean, when I talked to my

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endocrinologist, he was like I said, I eat it between 8 and

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9 every night. He goes, your blood sugar looks fine.

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And my, you know, my a one c has been going down, and I don't

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crave the other junk food. It's like, you know, I've

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got my brownie every night. You know. And so it

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seems counterintuitive, you know, I don't have a whole sheet

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cake. I have a little dish, you know, but it seems counterintuitive,

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but it works for me mentally and physically, you know,

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because I've adapted it. I tried it once with bananas, you know,

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because I need potassium and that just made my sugar go up. And

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so you you have to be able to be your own advocate, and I think

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that's what we've kind of lost. And I and and to tie this back

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just in general, it comes from my explanation

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of us coming out of an industrial society because

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our educational society teaches

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you not to be creative and think out of the box. It teaches you to

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follow instructions and be a follower. And

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so now we're in the Absolutely. Now we're in the information

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society, and we have lots of information, but we don't know how to

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filter it or to implement it. Yeah. You may have key point there. There's

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so many things you just said there, Yvonne. So, yeah, the last last point,

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filter. That's the most important thing. Filter the information.

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Again, that's why it's good to listen to

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many viewpoints and not just listen to 1 channel or 1 guru

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or 1 coach and, you know, just again using myself. You know, I've

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I've multiple coaches that I work with for different things. And and and even in

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those specific realms, I look at

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various, opinions as well, and I can bring that to the person that I'm actually

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paying to to work with me for whatever that the case may be. And you're

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absolutely right. The the the education system or the system in

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general is meant to good worker bees who worked in factories in the 19 forties

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fifties. We don't live in that age anymore. Exactly, like you said. And

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I and I love, you know, you know, back to your your brownie examples. Like,

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there's no one size fits all for someone. Right? Like, just

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one ingredient in your brownie could be the thing that spikes them. It doesn't spike

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for you. Awesome. Amazing. They found the thing. For somebody else, they totally could be

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something that spikes their blood sugar or causes them inflammation, or or

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what have you. Right? So we gotta we gotta, you know, figure all these things

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out again. It's highly individualized. There's no one size fits all.

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And and I guess back to my last point to that, something you brought came

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to mind earlier, and I I don't wanna interrupt you. That's why I'm a big

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fan of, like, going back to a book. You know, every maybe 2 or 3

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years later and reading the same book again, even though you might have your highlights

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and flags and whatever someone does, or at least that's what I do,

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you're in a different place. You're a different person now, and the way you

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think and the questions you ask yourself are different. And now you're

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like, oh, now I really understand what the author is saying, or maybe

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not. It's just like, oh, I have a different perspective of what they're saying now,

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and something different come up. So, you know, you can see behind me, you got

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all these books and even the top shelf you can't see, you know, that I

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and I just periodically, you know, every couple years go back to them again and

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just get new things. Well, that's that that's my thing where I say, every

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once in a while, you just need to go back to basics. Go back to

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where you started. Right? And take a look and

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see what your frame of mind was and and and

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and and it's funny because one time I made a list of every all

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the tools that I had created, and I had, like, a list of about

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36. And when I went back and I looked at them, some of the

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ones that I did in the beginning were the best

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because they weren't, you know, they were very simple and it's like, I

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can add to this. I can now see why this

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works, you know, because I'm smarter, and I can I can add to

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it? And it's funny because I go back and I go, boy, that was

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good. This makes so much sense. I'm gonna start

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using this again because you're bringing more you know, you started with a

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certain perspective, a certain I wanna say it

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it was kind of an uncluttered perspective before you

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got so involved in other people. It was really yours.

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And now you have other things that you can bring with it. So it you

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know, when you go back to the basics and you enhance it, it's even better

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than it was before. So I absolutely agree with you

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on that. And I think,

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the industrial mindset, unfortunately,

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I think has a lot to do with

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our limiting beliefs. You know, you

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know, I one of the examples I always use

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is, you know, for a long time, even now, I don't think

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anybody in my family knows what I do. They don't quite understand what Yeah. I

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don't think they know what I do either. My family. Don't worry don't worry about

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it, Yvonne. And and and so forever my mom would say, you know,

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because I have a Wharton MBA and and, you know, so her thing is why

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don't you just get a job? You know, because that's the

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industrial way. You go and you get education and you get a job and you

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work there. It you know, it used to be that you worked for 30 years,

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but now you don't. And so, you know, even if if you do

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get a job, part of your responsibility for

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yourself is to educate yourself as much as you can from what's

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available at that job. So when, for whatever reason, you

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have to leave, you've got a better product in yourself.

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Do you know? And and and, you know, because those skills are

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portable. But, but I think the mindset is

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I have to do it this way. Nobody wants to hear what I have to

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say or, you know, it's not my job or it's

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outside my role kind of thing. And I and I and I see that

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all the time because it it's like

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it's it's like somebody grinds away the thing that makes

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you unique, You know? You started out with this wonderful

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individuality, and when you're finished, you're just a little round pebble.

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Yeah. I mean, it starts with our school system. Right? Like, there's

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no 5, 7 year olds who are stressed

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out and blah blah blah. No imagination. No

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creativity. Right? Like, we beat it out of people. Don't

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sit at your desk. Don't move. Start start the wall.

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Lines. Color Color in the lines. Yeah. Exactly. You know, the grass

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is always green. You know? I mean, that was what my remember my mom saying

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to me. You know? The grass can't be purple, but, you know,

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those kinds of things. Alright. But before we run out of time, can you give

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us a couple action steps that can help us that people can

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actually start using? Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.

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So a a couple things here. So, maybe just go let me go a little

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bit meta and then kind of burp boil it down to some action stuff. So

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I guess the number one is I'm a big proponent

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with my clients or otherwise and certainly for myself is just, like, really, really

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focusing on what is true what do we truly want and

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what is maybe truly missing. So maybe that's doing we need to

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do some inner game work. Again, we're talking to entrepreneurs primarily here,

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and, you know, there's tons of tactics and marketing and all this stuff. But if

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you have limiting beliefs, none of that's gonna make a difference. Yeah. But yeah.

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No. I shouldn't say that. You're gonna you're gonna make some progress, but you can

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make so much more progress if you, you know, had your inner game in

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check. So, you know, whatever that is for you is really be aware of

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of of that at a at a high level, at a meta level, and then

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kinda work your way down. I'm a huge proponent of, like,

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you know, doing certain things to just, like, reset ourselves. So maybe that's

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taking a breath. Maybe that's meditation. Certainly

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doing some exercise. You're feeling struggling with a problem? Go

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outside in nature and go for a walk. Trust me. The the solution will probably

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come to you. Just do basic things. And if you can do these

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basic things, so much of

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our anxieties and our tensions and our conflicts will just melt away.

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And, yeah, there's gonna be other other stuff, and we gotta do some more advanced,

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things. But just do do the basics.

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Clean water, clean air, eat healthy,

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move a little bit, get out in the sunshine, and just

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learn to breathe properly, meditate if if you want to or

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Tai Chi or whatever is your thing, and have your

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problems resolved right there. And and you know what?

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I I think what people need to understand is

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there are things in each of those that you can do. So for

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instance, you know, I admit that I have some

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mobility issues. But, you know, if I go online,

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I I have a 10 minute Tai Chi seated Tai Chi that I can do.

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That's great because if I have, like, 20 minutes before the next

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call, I can slip that in. Do you know? I mean, that was the one

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thing that I learned was to have a variety. If you say you're gonna exercise,

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have a variety of ways that you can do that. So if it rains, you

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go, I can't go outside because it's raining. Well, you've got something else you can

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do, you know, or you can buy a raincoat, which is what I did when

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I got a dog. The dog still had to go out, and I and I

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used to say that was my exercise thing. So, Having

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a dog is a great exercise motivator because you have to get outside. And even

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if it's a slow pace and only 5 minutes, you're still

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moving. And you cannot hang your clothes on it. That's

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the other that's the other thing that's really important. That's been my experience. They don't

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like when you drape your clothes on top of your dog. That's right. The last

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thing is, what's the freebie? What's the gift you're

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gonna give us? Yeah. Absolutely. So it you know, kind of to my

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my last point there, it's it's a guide, for the

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successful entrepreneur. 7 7, action steps,

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that you can take. And so at the beginning, just to kinda read read about

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them and why why they're beneficial, not only to your health, but also

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to your business. And then at the end of it is 30 days of

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tracking. So of these habit changes or habits we wanna implement. So

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now I'm gonna be perfectly clear. Do not try all 7 at once. You

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are just you're setting yourself up a failure. Choose 1, maybe 2.

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No more than 2 at a time. Choose 1 or 2.

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Track it for 30 days. If it resonates with you, great. Keep doing that. You

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built a new habit. If it doesn't, that's fine too. Go back to the beginning,

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pick another one. And at the end of some period of time, of those 7,

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maybe there's a handful, maybe there's all 7, you picked up a new healthy habit

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for you that you can incorporate, into your life.

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Fantastic. I I absolutely believe in trackers. I don't know what your

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tracker looks like, but I have to tell you, and this is another

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thing about picking something that works for you. I am not a journaler. I don't

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want a food journal. You know, it's kind of like I know what I ate,

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and I don't wanna write it down. And the other part is it

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if I if there's a lesson I learned, I don't know how to find it

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in a journal. So I have a tracker too that

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I will share with you a different time. So here's the here's the

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the question. Here's the the teaser. When was the last time

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that you did something new for the first time?

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When was the last time I did something new for the first

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time? Great question. Let me think.

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Last Thursday. Last

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Thursday, I did I did I did something something new. Yeah.

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Do you wanna share? You wanna share. Yes. Absolutely.

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I'm a huge proponent of

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and I think there's there's great research coming out of many places at John Hopkins

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and and others as well of using the right the

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right psychedelic medicine in the right dose for the right

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intention and purpose. And I wanna be very clear about this right intention,

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purpose dose. I had the opportunity,

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last Thursday to try 1,

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psychedelic medicine that I had never tried before,

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in in, again, the right setting in in a heart heart opening,

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heart centered way in a in a in a in a mastermind,

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setting. And, Yeah. I did I was not expecting that.

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That was not on on agenda, so to speak, but it it was

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offered and and and and it made sense. So I I I tried it, and,

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yeah, it was it was fine. It was there was a little bit

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of a, a carry forward for a couple couple days, which was

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maybe not the best, but, totally open to open to trying. Because, again, I'm I'm

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a bit of a self experimenter, and I totally believe in the work you can

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do in p s, PTSD and and other things like that.

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So if these are things and, again, I don't I don't do that myself, obviously.

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But if I'm going to recommend that to a client,

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you know, with the right person and the right professional, etcetera, I wanna be able

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to share my experience. I don't like I'm not gonna test every single thing out

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there. But but, you know, I I I want I wanna be able to have

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that, experience that I can personal experience that I can relay with my

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clients if I feel that's gonna serve them, in the best way. So, yeah,

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that's that's something new that I tried. So that that really is something new.

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So thank you for sharing that with us. So,

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I just wanna make sure that everybody knows. I I I kinda

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hate to wind this up because I realized that we have ground that

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we've never explored. So we probably could go on

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talking for quite a while. But this is only a 30 minute

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show, and so I have a couple of things that I need to make sure

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that I say, and that is be sure you subscribe and share,

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and, you know, tell people about the podcast. I would love it. It's it's my

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way of trying to give back to the community and, you know,

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fueling your quest for growth and impact. And you can always,

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join me for the One Small Change podcast, every week, which comes

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out on Friday. So the last

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thing is if you had, you know, like, last words of

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wisdom to share with everybody, what would it be?

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I would say if you really

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take a moment and reflect upon yourself,

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you'll probably find that there's something that's you feel is missing

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or lacking, could be in your health, physical

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health, could be in your mental health, emotional health, whatever the case may

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be. Take one step. Take one small step.

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Doesn't matter what it is. Doesn't matter what it is. Take one positive step

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and try something out and just incrementally work on whatever your

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whatever is it is for you, and I think that's all. Don't don't

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grandeur of I need to lose a £100. Just lose 5.

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Or I need to run a marathon, get off the couch.

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What whatever whatever the the the the case is, for

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you, just take one small step, and I think that's those habits

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and those small steps build on each other. And I think then over the long

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term, where we are in our grander. So, yeah, just take

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one small step. I absolutely

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believe in that. You know, if you know, I often say

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if you keep doing what you're doing, you're gonna keep getting what you got. So,

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guys, this has been fantastic. I hope everybody got as

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much out of this as I did. And I want you to remember that change

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can be simple, but it isn't always easy. And it does require a

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certain amount of courage and resilience and a

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willing willingness I have lip lock today,

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and a willingness to step outside your comfort zone. So I hope you will

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join me again for one small change and see what innovative possibilities

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you can come up with. And until then, stay curious.

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This is Yvonne McCoy. Join us next week. Bye.

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Bye, everyone.

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