What about your intuition?

Have you ever come across a decision that is logically right but deep inside you know it feels so wrong?

Have you ever felt like doing something just because you feel like doing it and not because you are compelled to do so?  

Deirdre Wilcox says neural pathways shape our experiences and can either expand or limit them. Deirdre is interested in helping people see things from a different perspective, make friends with their shadows and inner critic, and name their superpowers.

By doing so, they can optimize their experiences and live in a more soul-aligned way. 

Deirdre believes that we all have wisdom and clarity within us that we can tap into through our intuition. We use our intuition in mundane ways, such as choosing what to wear or what feels right to us. Deirdre encourages people to start honing this sense and use it with more confidence and greater application. By doing so, we can cut through a lot of stuff and be more accepting and compassionate towards ourselves, living with fewer apologies. 

In this episode you’ll hear: 

- How Intuition or Gut-feel has shaped and changed her life. 

- Learn to understand the Inner feeling and how to use it properly. 

- The benefits of following your Intuition.  

- The difference between the Inner Critic and the Gut-feel. 

- Learn how to hone this skill and use it in everyday life situations. 

Deirdre Wilcox is a healer, a teacher, a therapist, and an artist. She helps women in her Soul School. She teaches Yoga and Wellness. She started as a Pre-Med student but her intuition and drive to Healing Arts led her to switch to Psychology and Sociology and got her degree in it. She also became a licensed massage therapist and registered yoga teacher. She loves painting and reading books in her free time. Her paintings are exhibited in Pioneer Square, Seattle.   

Where to reach her: 

www.deirdrewilcox.com

one of the.

Reasons I love to do that is because we're all pretty much walking around

perpetually stressed and, you know, confused and overwhelmed and like we're

drinking water out of a fire hose.

And so anything I can do to simplify or make a, a concept feel

more accessible or bring down the noise, uh, you know, I'm all in.

Help optimize the human experience.

Hello and welcome to the Connectedness Podcast.

Just as you might have guessed, I talk about connection and connectedness

on this podcast, our connection with everything in the world around us.

Whether you see it or not, we're all connected.

And it doesn't matter if it's our dog, our cat, our God, our body.

And I'll also talk about some more abstract connections like our career or

our land, our community, our emotions.

Your body life is all about connection.

So the sooner we recognize that, the sooner we can have an

easier, more meaningful life.

I will talk about these connections through different lenses.

Things like synchronicities and coincidences are just everyday

little bits of magic and miracles that we, we usually dismiss.

It's really important that we pay attention to all of this so we can

live an easier, more meaningful life.

So welcome to the show.

I'm your host, Karen Cleveland.

​ Rev Karen: Hello everyone.

Welcome back to this show.

I am very excited to introduce my guest tonight.

I have known Jerra, I don't even know how many years now, actually.

, several.

More than several, cuz it was several pre Covid.

So, Deirdra is , a healer, a yoga teacher, teacher therapist, artist.

And she, she works with people to, , to get to know themselves better through

something she has called Soul School, which sounds really interesting.

And yoga teacher, let's just go ahead and get on with the interview.

Welcome, Deirdra Wilcox.

Welcome to the show.

Thank you, Karen.

It has been many, many years and possibly even a few lifetimes.

Yeah, possibly exactly.

Thank you for being here.

So I, I, let's just start off with a basic background.

Um, you do, so you do yoga, you teach things about intuition and ins, gun,

gut instinct and all these things.

What was your personal, , story to arriving to how, how you are in the world

today and what you teach other people to.

Just like, did you grow up in like a super spiritual house

or did you develop this later?

Um, I didn't grow up in a spiritual house actually.

We grew up in not a strict religious home, but we were raised as Catholic

and you know, we went to mass every week and my family was practicing Catholics.

That said really early on as a little girl, , for sure starting around nine.

I remember distinctly, sitting in mass one Sunday morning and having

this awareness that it wasn't the right place for me and I wasn't

resonating with what was being said.

But even more than that, I started to study the.

Carefully and I came to the conclusion that most of the people

there were not being present.

Hmm.

Really connecting to what was being said.

I felt like they were there out of duty or obligation.

Fascinating.

So the whole thing felt false and I thought, I can't really say

this to anybody, but I'm gonna sit and, and just observe this.

And so, you know, even then I started watching the priests.

And at some point when I was pretty young, I said to my mom, I started

to take issue with, um, why don't we have a direct connection to God?

Why would we need to go through someone in a confessional?

And you know, I had all of these questions.

Wow.

Yeah.

Um, starting at nine or 10 about how the whole thing didn't make

sense to me and that if God was God, then God doesn't need to.

To go into a confessional and talk to someone else who's equally human

and fallible and tell that person, a man what all my issues were, and

then be forgiven by this person vis-a-vis his power with God.

I mean, none of it made sense.

Right.

So it started young.

Yeah.

I mean, nine years old.

That's really young.

I was also sitting in the the church, the Catholic church at nine years old and.

I had none of those thoughts.

I didn't know why I was there, but I definitely had none of those thoughts.

I, I guess I was late to the, to the show, so, okay.

So at nine, so then did you, what, when did you start becoming active?

Like, so you're a yoga teacher, how did that unfold for you?

Um, before

being a yoga teacher, I actually.

Long felt a calling toward the healing arts.

Um, and originally my plan was to go to med school and then I changed my plan.

I still wanted to do something that would be helping to, helping people to feel

better or somehow improve their lives or their experience in their lives.

And when I went to college for pre-med, um, It didn't feel resonant, so I

switched to a psychology, sociology track.

Mm-hmm.

And that was super resonant and I loved it.

And so I got my degree in that.

Okay.

And then, um, it didn't feel right to.

What I used to think of which, and this is no offense to anyone cuz I know many

therapists and love them and I think it's amazing work, but I just didn't wanna

sit in a room still with someone and, and just do that kind of talk therapy.

I thought there was something more body mind focused that would be more productive

and more helpful because we don't just live in our heads, we live in our whole.

Right.

So I went down the track of getting, um, licensed as a massage therapist,

and then from there as a registered yoga teacher because I felt like

I was missing a movement, physical component from the hands-on piece.

Hmm.

And then I did some studying for, um, many years with a amazing teacher

named Judith Aston, and she was combin.

The mind, the body, the emotions, and then bringing in the idea of

the neural pathways that we create with our thoughts, our postures, our

emotions, our activities, and how those neural grooves start to shape

us, um, and begin to more carefully.

Not only shape who we are, but start to either expand or limit our experience

based on those patterns, because we get to default settings and we start

to groove deeply into patterns, right?

And so even when there are other options or experiences, we may

no longer see them because we're too grooved into our pattern.

And so my interest has become through the Soul school, through my private

practice and in yoga, is to basically shake up the snow globe and see

things from a different vantage point.

Get to know ourselves in a different way, make friends with

our shadows and our inner critic.

Name our superpowers so they can be used to our advantage and use those

to help with the shadows so that as we get to know ourselves and we can

clearly name and articulate the pieces, we can then see what needs more work,

what needs sort, um, expanding what needs to be brought down a little bit.

For example, you know, when I'm parked in my small space, as I

call it, if I get critical or judgemental, that's one of my shadows.

So what can I do to work with that so that it's advantageous?

Meaning I can be really discerning in a room and pick up a lot of details.

That's the lighter side, but the darker side as I use that same ability, I have

to look closely at something and then, I could name what's not working about that.

And is that actually really helpful?

Sometimes.

So all of our things are on a spectrum.

I feel like they're, and they fluctuate depending on how well

we're doing emotionally, if we're taking care of ourselves, you

know where we are personally.

So we're fluid.

So how do we work with this Ever-shifting fluid self, even though.

And without question that we have these core central pieces.

So what the core central pieces to me identifying that who are we as a soul,

having a human experience, and how can we optimize that experience so that

we're living in a more soul aligned way.

Hmm.

And.

Is my passion and so I do it in whatever modality I'm working in

or if it's the yoga classroom.

And, um, doing things that aren't always predictable or encouraging

people when they might be going out of their comfort zone.

And I, I will use a lot of teasing or a lot of humor, and I say, you

know, you might not be comfortable, but it's called a practice.

And this is the wonderful place to explore what you're, to test your

nervous system a little bit to see, you know, do this slightly differently

than you're used to doing it.

Or, um, inhabit the pose or the movement.

Without a preconceived notion of what you can or can't do so that you're

not already setting up a limit or a failure before you even start.

Hmm.

So, um, the Soul School is that on steroids basically.

Really?

Wow.

Well it sounds like that would be a very long involved process.

You know, finding it is the souls alignment.

Yeah, it

is.

It's a lifelong practice.

Yeah.

Well, But actually it's not as involved as you might think.

Um, meaning that yes, there are a lot of pieces to look at and int to

sort out first name and then begin to integrate, but we have a lot more

wisdom and clarity than we think we do.

And that's where for me, the intuition comes in.

I think if we can use that internal sense with more confidence and with greater

application, then we can cut through a lot of stuff and get to really being

who we are, , with more acceptance and more compassion and fewer apologies.

Yeah, that sounds fantastic.

So, So you brought in the intuition, how does that unfold for a person

if they, if they don't know what it is, they don't know how to use it.

So how would you like define it or what would you say it is and, and how

a person can use that for themselves?

I think

one of the places somebody can start.

Honing that sense that we all do in little, in little, um, how can I

say this kind of in a mundane way.

Like for example, every day most people get up and choose to wear whatever

clothes they're gonna choose to wear.

But some days they go for the black because they feel

that that's the right color.

And if you say, why don't you wear the red sweater today?

Nah, that doesn't feel right.

Mm.

You already are doing it.

Why doesn't it feel right?

It just doesn't.

And then you put on the black sweater that you wanted to wear and you're like,

yes, this is the sweater for me today.

Oh.

Or the experience we've all had.

Like if you, you know, borrow someone's coat or someone's sweatshirt and you

put it on and like you're grateful that you have it for whatever reason,

you might need it, but it's not yours.

It doesn't feel right.

You wouldn't keep it, it doesn't have your imprint.

It's not your color.

You just know it doesn't feel right.

And so that feeling of it doesn't feel right.

Is the departure point for what is Right.

So we already can identify that, right?

Somebody will say, I feel like eating pizza tonight.

Well, why don't we do Chinese?

No, I feel like pizza.

Yeah, you just do.

And so it's developing that innate discernment that we have

and a lot of times we just do it.

, Not understanding that we're already doing it.

Like, I don't know, that's just how I feel with intuition.

You just know.

So the way I practice it, or I started years ago is literally with

those things, like I don't think about, how to explain this easily.

Like instead of using my head to make decisions, I imagine that there's a

little magnet and the magnet pulls me in one direction or another more.

So I used to practice by walking around the U District and

different neighborhoods in Seattle.

I would start out with no plan.

Okay, walk out the.

And I would wait, I would say just imagine for fun, a magnet's gonna pull you down

to the right sidewalk or it's gonna pull you down the street to the left.

And so I would start there.

And then at the next choice point, I'd imagine not my head, not like, oh, I like

that street cuz that's where Hogan das is.

And I can get a scoop.

I'd say, I'm just gonna be pulled down this way.

And I would just, Asking, where's the pull?

Where's the pull?

And just find my way.

Using the

pull, would you have an end idea in mind?

Never.

Never.

Okay.

No, because that's already compressing it.

That's already putting a structure on it.

So that was just practicing.

That was just to get my internal sense of being drawn in one

direction more than another.

And the way that you can start to trust that you're being drawn is that

it comes from lower down in the body.

It doesn't come from the head.

So if you're in thinking mode or it feels like you're up in here,

that's rarely your intuition.

The intuition is literally at the gut level and you know, as we're

beginning to find out, there really is, you know, the microbiome.

Um, is the gut and you have those gut feelings.

Yeah.

And probably the gut feelings are, because there are so many neural

connections between brain and gut.

Between heart and gut.

Heart and brain.

Right.

And so the gut feeling is a true physiological phenomena.

Right.

Right.

So like we came with all of these apps, we just have to activate

'em, download 'em, and use 'em.

That's right.

Hit the activate button.

Yeah.

So, you must have people that say, I can't tell the difference

between my, my head and my gut.

Do, do you All the time.

Okay.

Yeah.

And it's hard for us to trust that because we aren't raised to.

Right.

Right.

We don't live in a place that encourages it.

You know, we, we always say, what do you think?

Exactly.

And I'm more likely to ask, what's your sense of it?

Mm-hmm.

Because it invites you to come from a different place.

Okay.

And so when it is coming from your head, there can be a sense of

being, um, A little bit primed, a little bit activated a little bit.

Um, there's more tension.

There's more of like a, almost like an amperage that comes from the head.

It's questioning, it's not sure when it comes, if it's coming from your

intuition, and you have that sense of knowing always there's a sense of calm.

It's just, even if it's this fast of a calm, Okay.

It's, there's a resonance.

There's a peace.

There's a trust, right.

You don't doubt it.

Mm-hmm.

It's just in the calm space.

You're like, yes.

That's the thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The challenge is we have such a hard time getting to that calm, quiet space that

we spin out in our head all the time.

Spin and spin and spin.

So,

So true.

So how would you advise someone that, um, says, you know, I got

this job offer across the states.

You know, I'd have to move 20 hours away.

I don't know if I should hack up and move.

I don't know what's best.

How would you, and they, and they, and they say they can't trust their intuition.

They don't know what their intuition is.

Um, any ideas or tips on how they might be able to get clear with that?

One place to start would just be to go ahead and humor the

head and get that off the table.

So I would ask the head or the busy mind person to write down

all the reasons you wanna go.

Mm-hmm.

Write down all the reasons you don't wanna go.

Just write both of them down.

And then once you do that, look at it for a.

A lot of them are going to be more secondary or

superficial than others, right?

So circle the top one or two on each side, and then consider if,

you know, run the line a moment.

If you go there are these wonderful things, and if you don't, there are these

losses, but there are also these gains.

So there's loss or gain on both.

The gain, is it what you really want?

If the job offers you $40,000 more per year, but the the loss is that you're

gonna be lonely, you're gonna be away from your grandma who you love so much

and doesn't have much time left on earth.

You're not gonna be able to stay with the horse that you love.

Someone will take care of your horse, but you won't have contact with your horse.

Right.

You know those things.

Suddenly that 40,000 doesn't seem very important.

Right?

Right.

Or

it could seem important, but for a limited time, okay,

I'm gonna do it for two years.

So there's a lot of discernment that happens.

I think the, the back and forth is our fear of committing to one or the other.

Hmm.

So in your mind's eye, play it out.

Commit.

I see myself saying, yes, I'm gonna take the job.

And for the first moment you feel elated, like, yeah, I made a decision.

Seconds later, there's a cascade of anxiety of all the reasons, like

you're freaking out that you said yes.

Probably not your job.

Yeah.

Because if you commit and say yes, and there's some nervousness, but overall

there's more excitement than nervousness, then it's probably the right job.

So it's the excitement versus the nervousness that even if you're out of

your comfort zone, more of you is pretty psyched to try this new thing than not.

And if most of you is really anxious and stressed out about it, And you're

kind of talking yourself into it.

Yeah.

But those health benefits.

Yeah.

But that 40,000

probably not.

Right, right.

So the, again, though you're back to the cerebral.

Yeah.

The worrying and the excitement, the heart, the soul that recognizes this is

an amazing opportunity, let's go for it.

Right,

. Rev Karen: What do you like to study as,

what interests you kind of on the outside to further your own personal growth?

I

have been, A chronic and obsessed student for so many years that

I've come to a place currently where I really don't want too much input, and

I think it might be a pausing place.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

But I really have done over the top studying and.

Retreats and classes and Yeah.

Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Because I'm curious and I love to learn, right?

Right.

Um, so currently what I'm doing is just being, with all that I have

learned and the practice is to.

Be able to speak about it, to work with people, to not keep so much of it inside.

Cuz I feel like for years and years I just did it for my own enjoyment, but never

broadly shared it or talked about it.

Mm-hmm.

So the practices, the application of all that I've learned.

Yeah.

That's my current teaching is learning to do that even at, you know, the learning

curve of feeling uncomfortable or.

You know, thinking people are kind, think, God, she sounds like a wackadoo.

I know for me it, it goes in cycles.

Yeah.

You know, I, I learn a lot.

I learn a lot, and then it's just like, need some time to

integrate and to think about it.

You know, which way am I gonna go from here?

And actually, I just, I have to ask this question.

Have you ever done the Clifton strengths, um, person or I don't know if it's

not a personality strengths test?

Uhuh?

No, because, um, it sounds like you might be like me, one of my

top five strengths is learner and.

What it means is that I like to learn, but then I like to

teach people what I learn, so.

Mm-hmm.

So it sounds like you like to learn, but then your application of that learning

and maybe helping others with it as well.

, Deirdre: yeah.

You know, that, that resonates.

That's interesting that you say that.

Um, and one of the.

Reasons I love to do that is because we're all pretty much walking around

perpetually stressed and, you know, confused and overwhelmed and like we're

drinking water out of a fire hose.

And so anything I can do to simplify or make a, a concept feel

more accessible or bring down the noise, uh, you know, I'm all in.

Help optimize the human experience.

But you know, to your, to your question, I do read a lot.

I love to read and so, I will randomly pick something up, or if I feel pulled

to go in a bookstore, I will just walk in the bookstore back to the magnet thing.

Mm-hmm.

Um, then I'll just allow myself to be drawn to an area and then I'll just wait

till a book pops out and then I'll open it and inevitably there's something there.

So that's a lot more fun way for me to learn now is just to be guided

or just to let spontaneity and serendipity get me where I need to be.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I like that Serendip.

So speaking of books, do you think I have you, you have, have you written a book?

You haven't written a book, have you?

I

have not written a book,

but do you have a book in you?

Is there something you want to teach people via a book?

I

have this, um, Guiding principle in my life that when

I hear something three times, I really start to listen then.

Okay.

And so the reason I started to laugh is because I've heard this just recently.

And so I'm beginning to ask, do I have a book?

Oh.

Because I keep getting asked if there's a book.

Wow.

Or I'm going to write a book.

So right.

Thanks to the environment around me and people like you.

There could possibly be a book.

Yeah.

There, it sounds like there might be.

Maybe there is, you must have picked up something in the field,

obviously, and it could be something that I resolutely don't wanna look at,

and so others have to say it to me.

It's just when I, when I come across people that have that really

love to help people, um, and they're not in it just because they want to

force what they know on other people, but they want to the other people to,

to thrive and they want to help them do that, then sometimes the more people

you can reach, you know, the better.

Mm-hmm.

And it, you know, one-to-one is awesome and it might.

The best, most effective way for some people, but it's

not accessible for everyone.

And I'm not gonna tell you how, what your career holds, but it was just a thought,

so, oh, come on Karen.

Tell me.

Yeah, right, right.

So I think that is what's on the table though, you

know, on, on the soul level.

Mm-hmm.

You know, is.

Exactly what you're saying.

It, you know, it's, I love the work I'm doing in the, in the small groups in

the soul school, but, um, how can I make it more accessible to people who maybe

don't have that kind of, you know, time or financial resources or aren't able to.

Right.

Um, my resistances though that sometimes if we get a lot of, um, tips or

little easy book or a pamphlet, yes.

It opens doors.

Then we can mistakenly think we're developing a skillset that does take time.

Mm.

And focus and daily practice.

Or you know, that we need to put a little bit of traction on the tires.

And because we live in a culture that wants everything to be quick and right

away, and we aren't as good on the longer path of study and application.

Right.

That, that's the thing I need to sort out for myself.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So how do you separate, um, how do you balance work and life or, you

know, work and pleasure work and whatever, whatever you do besides work.

And it doesn't sound like it's work, work, like someone going to a nine

to five in the office, but there still must be some need for your own

creative outlet downtime kind of thing.

Absolutely.

I am really an introvert.

I, and if I didn't have that time, I wouldn't be able to do the work I do.

Mm-hmm.

Um, so when I'm not, you know, working with people, um, in the various

capacities in which I do, um, one of the things I love to do is, A,

as I alluded to, I love to read.

I just find reading, relaxing, and it transports me to a different place.

Mm-hmm.

Um, but I love to do art.

You know, I'm an artist and I do a lot of work with mixed media, and so that is

an entirely different part of the brain.

I'm not interacting, I'm not talking, I'm really just listening to my own intuition.

If I'm looking at a piece, like today I was working on a tree

that I'm working on, and I.

Don't think about where that string and that paper goes.

Just start putting it down and just trust that when you finish

putting it all down, it's gonna be exactly the way it needs to be.

Stop thinking about it.

And I'll spend time doing that.

And so I belong to a, um, a gallery, the core gallery in Pioneer Square, and

I'll have another show there in July.

And so these trees and.

Spirit guides and things will be in that show.

And so nice, nice.

I stay in connection with that part of me.

The art is another way of expressing that, but it's a way that it's just for

me at home, by myself with my animals.

Um, I'm crazy for animals and so my animals are a big source

of joy and connection for.

Mm-hmm.

I love to travel, um, that feeds my soul and gives me entirely

different experience of life.

Yeah, of course.

We haven't been able to, um Right, right.

Looking forward to traveling, being back in my world.

Um, and I like to just spend time with friends in sort of a one-on-one or

small group situation so that there can be time to connect more than in.

A busy, social, superficial way.

You know, those, those things ground me to be with people I love and trust

the art, the animals, um, sitting quietly and doing absolutely nothing

for 30 minutes, but taking in the changing light outside the window.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Nature trees, I'm insane for trees, so they're a big part of

my world in balancing myself.

Oh, nice.

I like that.

I.

I love the evergreens on my property.

In fact, one of my part of my morning practice is to sit

and connect with my trees.

Mm.

So, oh my gosh, how wonderful.

Yeah.

Yeah, my trees, um, I have what I call my sister tree on the property, and,

um, she has gotten me out of some tricky situation, so I appreciate her a lot.

And that's, that's never been shared with my listeners before.

So there you have it.

I love that you have a sister tree.

What kind of evergreen is she?

A cedar, a sequoia, cedar.

A favorite?

Yeah.

I have a grill kinship to cedar.

Yeah,

me too.

. Is there anything you just, you like, you know, if you could teach everyone

in the world something right now, it's like anything you wish everyone knew?

I wish everyone knew how to use their breath therapeutically

to help themselves feel however it is that that would most benefit

them to feel in the moment.

Oh, interesting.

Because their breath is, Our most powerful therapeutic tools we come

with, and it isn't just be aware of the breath, but really connecting to

ha not just the fullness of the breath, but you can use breath to feel more

energized, to feel calmer, to feel more imbalance, to feel more grounded,

to feel warmer, to feel cooler.

You know, there's, the breath has so many, um, applications, and if

we just got the basic concept down that a longer, more mindful breath

and the four parts that we inhale and there's a natural pause there and we

exhale, there's a natural pause there.

If we even followed the four parts of the breath cycle consciously for three

breath, Randomly a couple times a day, it would start to change our picture.

Just that little bit.

Really?

Yes.

And we would also understand that we inhale the oxygen from the trees.

Yeah.

Exhale.

Our carbon dioxide, they take that in or carbon dioxide, they take it in.

It's a reciprocal relationship.

The trees take our breath and we take their breath.

Yeah.

So if we even thought about that part of the breath too, that it's.

Absolutely in connection, isn't it?

In connection to everything else?

Yes, but more in connection to our intuition.

How can we hear our intuition if we can't calm the snow globe and settle it?

Mm-hmm.

There's shaking it up so you get out of your pattern.

Mm-hmm.

But there's also settling it so you can see what's actually there.

Mm.

And the breath is that it's settling the snow globe.

So you can see what's actually.

Oh, I like that analogy.

That's, yeah,

and the other thing, whether people believe it or not, and I'm

sure many don't, but I do feel like we are all guided at all times.

We may not be open to the guides or to hearing the guides, but.

They are there standing by, and if we just would invite them or acknowledge

that help from all that is, or however you see it, it doesn't need to be labeled,

but that at all times there is guidance.

Yeah.

And is that something you teach in any of your classes or with

any of your clients, or that's just for

sure.

That's all part of Soul School.

Okay.

Okay.

And when I work one-on-one in my, um, body work and emotional support

practice, I absolutely remind people that they're guided, that they can trust, you

know, start to trust their intuition.

I say, well, what does your body say?

And if I can get past their head, mm.

And ask questions in a certain way, then they'll, it's surprising what they say.

And I say, you did, you hear what you just told me about your ankle?

You know?

So actually they know more than I do.

I know nothing I can just facilitate or draw it out.

Right, right.

I don't have any answers for them.

Yeah.

Wow.

That's fantastic.

Any, anything else we should have covered that I neglected

to ask you that I forgot about?

You are, um, you are just full of fantastic information.

You are, you asked a lot of really good, hard questions, so

you give yourself credit for that.

Um.

No, I think I've said what needs to be said.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I, I just would, I would just ask people to, particularly when the inner

critic is going crazy, to just for a moment, remember the spark of the

divine that's in each of us, and just to say to the inner critic, thank you.

I've heard from you.

I, I, I know what you.

And I'm gonna put you on pause.

I'm gonna redirect to my soul self.

Thank you.

Because we all have that critic raging so much of the time, and

that also is interferes with our intuition, our capacity to feel guided.

We're not being guided.

Right?

True.

Who would wanna guide us?

We're such a mess.

So true.

So true.

So for the listeners that are curious about working with you, what, are

you, do you only work locally?

, or do you work online at all?

And why don't you tell people where in the world you.

And how they can find you online?

Well, in the, on the planet at the moment I'm in Seattle

and, um, online, they can find me at my name deirdre wilcox.com.

Um, and their.

Is some information about, I run a, um, a class called

Quiet Mind on Friday mornings.

It's 30 minutes of breath and meditation.

Each one is different each week.

Anyone can join from anywhere.

It's a Zoom class.

Okay, the link is there.

Um, it tells where I teach yoga classes in Seattle proper.

Um, although there's a.

Class yoga just for men, that's online.

Okay.

Um, that anyone can join from anywhere at any time and.

Then the private sessions of course, would only be able to happen in Seattle.

But what I do for people that aren't in Seattle is people either

call or we do a Zoom, um, in terms of problem solving something for

them, it could be a physical issue.

It could be just wanting a safe sounding board to start to figure

out some pieces to put in place.

I wouldn't call it coaching necessarily, but more a deep listening and then

using my own intuition and what they've said to just reflect back to

them what they already have, but may not know they have information wise.

Okay.

So I do, um, more and more of that on the phone or via Zoom.

Okay.

Yeah, so that's another way to reach me.

And then the sole school is actually not even on my website.

My website needs to be updated, but I am gonna start another group soon.

Um, one or two groups depending.

Um, and we usually meet on Sunday afternoons, one time per month, and

we commit to doing it for six months.

And then you can stop and reassess if you wanna continue.

Nice.

All right.

Yeah.

So to contact me or ask me about any of those things, that information, the

email, my phone number, you know, someone can call or text, however anybody wants

to reach me in the dream time, maybe.

, Rev Karen: I'll, and I'll have all the

so it'll be, , linked with the show.

So thank you for sharing that.

And thank you so much for being on the show.

I really appreciate it.

Very

interesting.

I appreciate you asking me.

Thank you everyone for listening, and I look forward to

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