What if you had a roadmap to rediscover your true self and unlock your most authentic life?

On the latest episode of Deeply Rested, host Maegan Megginson explores the transformative power of Human Design with Jessica Rose, a Human Design coach. 

Maegan and Jessica dive into how Human Design offers a lifelong journey of self-discovery, helping you align with your most authentic self and magnetically attract the life and work you’re meant for. 

Jessica shares how understanding Human Design can help you break through the stuckness many of us feel in our personal and professional lives. From discovering your unique energy type to deconditioning from societal expectations, this conversation is a rich blend of wisdom, compassion, and practical advice for living with greater authenticity and ease. 

Here’s a glimpse into what you’ll hear: 

How Human Design helps you reconnect with your true self (00:32)

What to do when you feel stuck in life or work (02:37)

An overview of the five Human Design energy types (18:53)

Why your thinking brain can’t solve everything—and what can (39:37)

The power of trust and surrender in finding your purpose (45:09)

How authenticity creates magnetism in life and business (46:43)

Using Human Design to build self-trust and connection (57:39)

Even if you're brand new to Human Design, this inviting conversation will explain what it is and how it can add meaning to your life. Join us to discover how Human Design can help you step into your purpose, reduce stress, and finally become deeply rested. You can watch this episode on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/iXjYFSHIEqY

Access this free resource for finding your Human Design chart  - https://www.geneticmatrix.com/ 

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[00:00:23] Well, I think human design holds the answer to so many of the reasons why we get stuck and why we struggle in our businesses. And my dear friend Jessica Rose is here to talk us through what human design is, and how it can help us move through areas of stuckness to step into more alignment and authenticity so that we are magnetizing toward us what we want and what wants us.

[00:01:16] She's worked with hundreds of clients, including therapists and coaches, and has shared her insights as a speaker in various corporate and personal development settings. Jessica Rose is the real deal. She is wise, she is kind, she is so full of love, and she is an unending well of wisdom when it comes to how we can become more of our true, authentic, unapologetic selves.

[00:02:37] Maegan: Hi Jessica, welcome to the Deeply Rested Podcast.

[00:02:42] Maegan: Oh my gosh, I am delighted to have you here. You're just one of my favorite people, and

[00:02:48] Maegan: My gosh, it's going to be a lovefest. And also, like, we have some of the most fascinating conversations via voice notes,

[00:02:55] Maegan: Our text thread.

[00:03:00] Maegan: We're so smart. People should listen to our voice notes. Well, guess what? They're listening to our voice note right now. That's what's happening here. Can we just dive right in? Cause we have some juicy stuff to talk about. So we agreed, we agreed that we're going to start this conversation today talking about what happens

[00:03:42] So I'm curious, have you ever experienced seasons in your life where you felt stuck?

[00:03:52] Maegan: Yeah. This is what we in the biz call a leading question.

[00:04:23] And one of the shadow expressions is feeling stuck. And that is probably the word that I have used over and over and over again in my life. Yeah.

[00:05:00] Going through your mind?

[00:05:46] So that was what stuck felt like. It felt like being pressed against a wall that wouldn't budge. And I think the voices in my head told me that it must mean I'm broken in some way. That other person, I know that you said everybody feels stuck, but my observation was not that. My observation is everyone is always moving fast ahead while I'm stuck back here and have no idea how to make those opportunities happen.

[00:06:22] Maegan: So fun. It's a party. Yeah.

[00:06:30] Maegan: I, I like the somatic sensation of pushing. Well, you said being pushed against a wall that won't budge, but I think it's, that's, that's the mental noise, right? Like we're being pushed, but we're the ones doing the pushing, right? We're standing there at the wall like we're pushing this thing that won't budge.

[00:07:04] You're not going to be able to succeed. You know, all your great ideas, someone else is going to beat you to them. So I have that competitive narrative that's cycling through, and then fueling the competitive narrative is, a deep fear of failure, right? Like, oh, this isn't going to work. I'm not going to be successful at this.

[00:07:47] Cause there are moments when I feel like I'm doing everything I'm supposed to be doing. You know, like I'm trying to follow my soul's calling, and it's like. I'm...

[00:07:57] Maegan: I expect a reward. Yeah, I expect I expect it to be a very like reciprocal relationship Like you give me a calling... Ah, it's so frustrating. Tell me what it's like for you.

[00:08:19] Maegan: Yeah.

[00:08:24] And that's not the case... I don't think how it works, but also, observationally, there are a lot of people who don't do any of those things and get the things I want. And so the formula was not adding up, and that just made it all worse. I just assumed that everybody knew something that I didn't and that I just couldn't figure it out. That's the story I lived in.

[00:09:07] So now, not only do we feel stuck in like, let's just use our businesses for it. That's where I get stuck the most in my work in the world, right? I'm like so committed to my work in the world is... coming from my, my soul, coming from my heart and not just from my logical mind and when I feel like I'm really following that calling and then it's not going well, I get frustrated, and I start to feel alone.

[00:09:42] Jessica: I think for me, I don't know if this is answering your question, but I'll just speak to what's coming up. I relate in my way to what you were saying about failure and this feeling of wanting to be aligned with your purpose, and I think purpose is such a personal thing.

[00:10:36] And that I have all of these things I'm capable of doing that have nowhere to go and that's been lonely.

[00:11:03] Maegan: It is so disorienting, isn't it, to be in that moment when we feel like we have a little bit of clarity about how we can be of service to the world, and how we can make money, right, to pay our bills and all of it, and then we put it out into the world, and people don't say yes, right. A launch goes poorly, or our client load dries up, or you know that the professional goal we had hasn't been reached. And then we go into this inner cave of self-criticism.

[00:11:40] Maegan: What's wrong with you? What don't you know? Why isn't this working? And like that, that is an inherently isolating experience.

[00:12:05] with other people who can meet me in this way. Because as soon as that... as soon as I'm not isolated with the stuckness and the shame and the fear and whatever else it might be, it's like, it dissipates a little bit. It's maybe I still feel stuck, but I don't have as much mental garbage around being stuck.

[00:12:46] Jessica: Yes, absolutely, and I know we mentioned our voice memos, they saved me this summer. I went into... yeah? It was such a challenging moment, and I want to reframe stuckness at some point because I think, this summer was the reframe for me, but I do think it was that connection and being able to work things out relationally while I was going through it that helped me turn what felt initially like stuckness into a form of surrender.

[00:13:39] Maegan: I'm receiving that and thank you for saying it and I feel the same way. We were both stuck in very different ways, this summer around different things, but there were so many similarities as there always are, right? When we're stuck, regardless of where or what the story is, there are going to be these common threads that connect us to other people who are feeling stuck.

[00:14:28] I think weaving in human design more explicitly is going to be great, you know, I'm just imagining like the 1970s, like, VW bus, like, human design is the bus that will take us from where we are to where we're going.

[00:15:07] Jessica: Okay. But I do want to come back to how it helped you.

[00:15:11] Jessica: You could unstick yourself. Human design is a system of self-knowledge. So it takes aspects of astrology, numerology, the Chinese I Ching, Kabbalah, quantum mechanics, and the chakra system. What it does is, bring all these different principles together and synthesize them.

[00:15:51] So in the human design there are five different energy types. Your life purpose, all of the things that you decided you were going to come into this life to be. How you're designed to genetically exchange energy. With the world around you. And why I love it is because what happens to us is we maybe come in as our most authentic, perfect selves, and then the world kind of has its way with us.

[00:16:43] Often we need to achieve in certain ways, or there are very specific things that we should want. Many of us are talked out of our dreams, we're talked out of our instincts and our intuitions, and we live in a very homogenous culture that says we're all the same. So what works for me should work for you, and most of us are looking outside of ourselves for advice, having other people guide our lives for us, and so then we follow that script, and we do it to the letter, and then there's something off.

[00:17:31] We all have a unique, individual expression that we are here to share with the world. And so how you do life is going to be very different from how I do life. And there isn't a road map the way that we think there is for anyone. We're all here to pave our way. And so, it is essentially, that's what I call it, I think it's the road map.

[00:18:16] Maegan: mm hmm. Wow, that's such an incredibly succinct and poetic description. I, going to have to sound clip that so that I can just send it to people, right? When they're like, what's human design? I'm like, here you go. This is the perfect description.

[00:18:33] Maegan: Many times, I mean, I'm familiar with human design, but hearing you describe it, gets me excited about it.

[00:18:41] Maegan: Yeah, can you give us, a simple breakdown of the five energy types?

[00:19:18] So manifestors are here to be the catalyst to set things in motion. They are the ones that, if they have an idea, they can just move it into action. They don't need anything outside of themselves to take their ideas and put them into reality. So they're the initiators. And that might sound kind of weird to some people because we've all been conditioned to believe that if you want something, you have to go out and you have to make it happen, you have to initiate.

[00:20:08] Does that make sense? Is that clear?

[00:20:11] Jessica: Generators. I am a generator. What makes a generator unique is that its sacral is defined in its chart, so there's a sacral center, and that's like having a battery pack. So generators tend to have a lot of energy. It's like a juicy passionate creative life force energy that wants to go out and express itself and share its enthusiasm with the world. But generators can't initiate We are here responding to life.

[00:20:52] Generators gave that energy away to others. So like a generator in their, I would say they are not self, which is just to say, not living authentically, living in their shadow, might be at a desk job for 30 years feeling frustrated and confused that they're not using all of that passion that they have for their own lives.

[00:21:32] In a world that says you're supposed to initiate and you're supposed to have tons of energy to get things done, manifesting generators can do both of those things. They do have their conditioning as well, for sure. But you'll recognize them in the world because they tend to be balls of energy and tend to have lots of different things going on all the time.

[00:22:20] And it is a beautiful thing to be a projector because projectors, when invited, are initiated usually into positions to be a guide. You are the great overseers. You can see into people's situations and environments very clearly and plug in energetically. And so you can shape that energy and guide that energy.

[00:22:54] Maegan: So true.

[00:22:58] Maegan: Yeah.

[00:23:18] So, that's why a generator with their sacral defined has that battery pack. Where we're open is where we're taking in energy from outside of ourselves and almost amplifying it. So we're, we're taking in the energy from our environment and other people, absorbing it, tasting that energy, and sending it back out, reflecting it out.

[00:23:56] Does that make sense? So they keep us healthy.

[00:24:15] Resist the urge to go read your chart right now.

[00:24:21] Maegan: Come back, yes, and we'll make sure that you know exactly where to go. Because it, as you said, human design, there's a big barrier to entry was my experience to human design because it is, you know, complex, right?

[00:24:43] Jessica: What?

[00:24:53] Okay. Human design, it's a system. It's a map of who we are designed to be, and how we're designed to operate in the world. The simplest way to step into the human design world is to understand which of these five energy types you are and what was so helpful for me, let me take a step back... I'm a skeptic by nature, and I'm finding, fun side note, that a lot of people who are skeptics resonate with the human design once they move through the skepticism barrier, and start to explore it, which is fascinating. But I'm a skeptic.

[00:25:56] But then a mutual friend of ours many years ago said, I think you should, you should explore your human design. And she was like, I know the perfect person to do a reading for you, and it was you. And I was like, okay, it felt like the right time, right? It felt like in my body,

[00:26:44] Okay, if you want X, you, you have to follow these five steps, and you have to do it in these ways. And I was, you know, I'm like an A-plus student, like honor roll, you know, like I

[00:26:56] Maegan: I won the Best at Everything award. They made it just for me in the eighth grade because I was so spectacular. That's like, it's Oh God, like that conditioning.

[00:27:07] Maegan: So deep and it was our first conversation when you were doing a human design reading for me, that I started. to realize, wait a minute, that's not meant for me. I'm not wrong for doing any of those things.

[00:27:43] Jessica: That's right.

[00:27:53] but it was draining me. It was not working for me. And then you were like, well, actually, you're an emotional projector. And I resisted it at first, but then the more I sat with it and explored it, I was like, whoa, this is so uncannily accurate. It's like, you were describing, when you were doing the reading for me, like, I was like, this woman is describing

[00:28:37] Jessica: That's why I went down the rabbit hole I did, because of that same feeling of feeling like something was articulating aspects of my soul that I had never found words for before.

[00:28:48] Jessica: How did you feel knowing you had been living that way all your life and having this new understanding? What process did that kind of instigate or initiate you into?

[00:29:32] And. not because it's actually what I wanted or desired. So I feel like when you presented me with human design, it just took that and deepened it like 10 levels, right? It just got so much deeper. It got so much more expansive. If I hadn't already been doing the work around conditioning, I think it would have been very disorienting.

[00:30:11] I think it would have been like a bigger, more volatile emotional experience.

[00:30:18] Maegan: Exactly right. It happened at the right time because what you were reflecting to me, my whole body was like, we've been waiting to receive this. I love what you said about articulating aspects of your soul that you hadn't been able to put words to before. That's exactly how it felt for me.

[00:30:58] My reading helped me feel how so many of the places I was stuck were directly correlated to ways in which I wasn't operating

[00:31:23] But I'm not nearly as mired in the stuckness as I was before, which brings us to the idea of authenticity. Right? That, and I want to... Because you talk a lot about authenticity, and about how human design, gives us this roadmap back to ourselves. And as we come back to ourselves, we're able to step into the world with more authenticity. Through the human design lens,

[00:31:52] Jessica: Oh, it's a great question. I might give a visual., I kind of picture it like an electric circuit. So if we imagine that, let's say the battery, and we can make it beautiful in our minds, like a gold, sparkly, bejeweled battery, is our essence.

[00:32:54] So the bulb will dim and it won't be as bright or it'll be off.

[00:34:06] It does. I wish I had the budget to hire an animator for the podcast, you know? That's what I was visualizing. So people could watch the video and, like, we could see this whole battery circuitry light bulb. It would be incredible. No, it does make sense. And, it has me thinking about... This might be specific to my experience, but it has me thinking about, The way people feel to me when I perceive them as authentic or inauthentic, and, we're talking again, authenticity through the lens of have I shed my conditioning, right?

[00:35:10] Like it's not something we have to go outside to find.

[00:35:36] the stories we tell ourselves, the belief systems we carry, the untruths about who we are and the world around us where we've been told this isn't possible, or you're not enough, or you can't be this way because, any of those stories or shadow aspects, right, we, we all have a lot of shadows of I can't be this because, or we just, we disown it, we decide it's not okay?

[00:36:04] Maegan: Yeah.

[00:36:38] Maegan: That's right. We're snakes shedding our skin.

[00:36:43] Maegan: One of the things I love about human design is the invitation for this to be a lifelong process. I love that. Wow.

[00:36:52] Maegan: And that can be frustrating in moments when we're feeling impatient or we're, you know, having like emotional dissonance. But when we step back from that, it's like, what a gift, what a gift to be exploring myself.

[00:37:26] That I love that about this system. It just feels so kind. It's such a kind way of meeting ourselves, right? There's nothing wrong with you. You have everything that you need. You are everything that you need. And your work is just to shed your skin and to keep shedding.

[00:38:00] Maegan: And if someone says to you, I'm, I've, I'm done deconditioning, then the next layer they need to decondition is called narcissism.S o, run in the opposite direction. Because we never, like this, again, this is, this is lifelong work. Let's come back to authenticity.

[00:38:39] And often I present them with that question.-- What's your human design? Have you explored it? Are you open to exploring it?-- when they are struggling, They're struggling with something. They're stuck. Just like we were talking about earlier. They're spinning their wheels. They're not getting the results that they want.

[00:39:12] You know, like, how can we problem solve in you and your business? How can we just problem-solve our way to more ease?

[00:39:32] Jessica: And the thinking brain is the conditioned mind, just to be clear, that is where we hold our conditioning.

[00:39:40] Jessica: So if we're thinking, we're operating from conditioning.

[00:39:53] Jessica: No.

[00:40:10] There's just a heaviness. There's a cloudy sky aura around them. And, and it's just like, oof, I can feel that in my body and go, wait a minute, I think we're out of alignment here. Versus when I'm sitting with someone who is in a more authentic place, right?

[00:40:50] That's how it lands differently in my body. Does that resonate, for you?

[00:41:13] It's such a gift to be yourself. Like we spend so much time trying not to be ourselves, but it is like the biggest permission to others when we are ourselves. That we're all safe in the world, you know?

[00:41:50] Oh. What's going on here? Right. And I get sucked into that with them. But then, the inverse is also true. And I'm in a room of people who are calm and at ease and just embodied, then my nervous system's like, oh wow, this is, this is great. Like this, this is a room I want to hang out in.

[00:42:10] Maegan: What I find so beautiful in experiencing this work, both in my own life and in the people around me I'm going to go backward a little bit. I did an Instagram post where I kind of articulated this, where I said, you are living your purpose.

[00:42:49] And the more that we receive them and we're healed by them in some way. And I see that happening all the time. We think that we might be living, I don't like the word smaller lives, but you know, sometimes people aren't ambitious, and they don't have big goals, big dreams, but the effect that they have on the world around them is so deep, and we're not even aware of it most of the time, that we have that effect.

[00:43:18] Maegan: Well, and it connects to what we were talking about earlier around isolation and connection, right? That, yes. You are the medicine the world needs.

[00:43:49] And that doesn't fit. Feel good, right? We're not designed to live in caves and not to have contact with other living, breathing beings. And I see this so often with business owners in particular, right? Like I know so many business owners who are well-connected in their personal lives. You know, they have friends, they have partners, and their relationships personally feel rich.

[00:44:28] Jessica: Yeah. What I love maybe most about human design is the way that it has challenged every idea I've ever had about life and how life works.

[00:44:52] It's all a fabrication in my eyes.

[00:44:58] Jessica: And now that I understand energy differently, I see how things unfold in the most unpredictable, creative ways that when we are trying to be in control through the mind, when we are trying to strategize our way somewhere, or we interpret what's happening around us as I must be failing and I need to fix it somehow, and we create that disconnection.

[00:45:44] Your purpose isn't something you have to work on. Right? It's not something you have to excavate. Like, it's here. You're living it out right now. And that looks so different for all of us. So different. And there is no one size fits all. And there is no such thing as, like, a roadmap to success. It doesn't work.

[00:46:27] And I would love for you to describe that to me. Explain it to me, please.

[00:47:01] And so why I think I was talking about, you know, the way that we think we need to solve problems in terms of strategy and the mind and thinking in terms of failure and success.

[00:47:27] Like, if I had looked at it through the lens of my past self, it would have been stuck. But this time, I was approaching it very differently. I melted into it. I truly surrendered to it. I allowed it to be still.

[00:48:01] Why are you pushing against it? And I was like, why am I? It's like, how do I know how things are supposed to go? Why do I think I know how it's supposed to go and how it's supposed to happen? And can I just trust? Can I just trust? Can I just be here and trust? And so when I think about resonance, when I think about authenticity, I think of it as just being. We don't have to do so much. Can we just be? Can we just be in this moment and allow whatever expression of ourselves to come forward in this moment? And that is who we are. Right? And so if I can just surrender to being and not push my life to happen in a certain way, it means that everything that resonates with my being will find me. Does that make sense? So, I lived there for a while and I'll share this part of it that I have been single, like really single, for like a good, six years or so. I went through a really hard divorce, so I was in a very long-term relationship, and I went through a very difficult divorce and had a lot of healing to do. And it got to the point where I was feeling stuck. It got to the point where I was feeling broken like there must be something I was doing wrong. I was being told I was doing things wrong in terms of the dating world and, could not bring myself to do things that felt inauthentic to me. And the outside world was like, well then you're never going to meet someone ever.

[00:50:18] So I was supposed to be doing something this summer that didn't end up happening, which kind of created this, like, empty portal. So I'm like, I'm being given this portal for a reason. If I don't push against it and try to make more happen, what if I just sit in it and use this time? And then guess what happened?

[00:50:38] Jessica: Very, very completely unexpectedly without anything I did

[00:50:46] Jessica: A very special person showed up.

[00:50:50] Jessica: And so effortlessly, so easily, it felt so magical, and is truly everything I was asking.

[00:51:17] Leaning into trust, leaning into surrender, not doing so much. Not believing that I have to control every aspect of my life to create what I want. This was such a juicy example for me of just honor yourself.

[00:52:03] So I used that as the thread of, like, the example of, okay, well, it's working here. Can it work in other places, too? So I'm buying in now. Took me this long.

[00:52:18] Jessica: Yeah.

[00:52:44] Jessica: Thank you.

[00:52:53] That, like, we aren't going to magnetize what is meant for us until we give ourselves space and permission to do the work of becoming more of ourselves. And that's lifelong work, right? So again, just really fighting against the part of the mind that wants to say, okay, I'm ready. How do I do it?

[00:53:43] and remind ourselves that this is a lifelong journey. And where am I on the journey right now? And what can I surrender right now? And what layer of conditioning can I shed right now? With each piece and part that I shed, space is created for more of the authentic me to come through, and I have to slow down and create space in my life to meet the new part of me.

[00:54:21] Jessica: I would flag, or just gently challenge, the idea that any of it is not meant for us.

[00:54:43] They're the best because it's just information. You're collecting data and you're like, okay, where am I not honoring myself?

[00:55:07] Maegan: Yeah, what do I need to shift or deepen to get closer to who I am? That's such a loving way to think about it. One of the most powerful lessons I've learned to date is that there's no such thing as mistakes, right? That the very concept of mistake is an illusion, right?

[00:55:43] Oh, that's wrong. When I slow down and breathe and remind myself, just like, wait, there's no such thing as a mistake. That wasn't a mistake, that choice I made six months ago. So instead, let me get curious, right? Everything you're describing is a process just chock full of curiosity. Hmm, why is this?

[00:56:04] Maegan: Because we're talking to business owners here today, right? And I want business owners to hear that to do this work and to weave this work into your business, you have to slow things down. Create some pockets of space to meet yourself and to permit yourself to weave who you are, and to weave your process, into your business plan.

[00:56:59] Jessica: Every type has a very different way of moving energy. And so I think to me, you know, every aspect of human design applies to every aspect of life. So whether that is, I just spoke about my love life, but before that, it was being used in my business. As a generator, again, I can't initiate. And every right opportunity that has ever shown up for me in my business showed up for me.

[00:57:50] And then that led to the next thing and the next thing, and it's been a surprising unfoldment. So, I see life, the universe, God, whatever you want to call it. It's so much more creative than our minds can be. And we don't always know what's best for us. And often when we are trying to control every aspect of it, it limits it.

[00:58:38] But the more that we can loosen our grip and invite in this more cco-creative process with life itself, I have found the more results you get.

[00:59:10] Maegan: Sure does.

[00:59:28] If you feel like letting go of a particular idea or a sense of control is terrifying to you, I would like to lean in a little into that, to that space, and see what kind of new energy or new possibilities that might bring. Allow life to show you a little bit more of what you're here to do rather than dictating to life how it's supposed to be.

[00:59:52] Jessica: It doesn't.

[00:59:57] Jessica: Not in my reality.

[01:00:23] Okay. If I'm designed to be a guide as a projector, right? I'm designed to respond to invitations and to be a guide. Hmm. How can I apply that to the infrastructure of my business? Just to be clear, for people listening, you still have to put forth the effort of, you know, creating and maintaining the structure of your business.

[01:01:15] And my human design, you know, body graph and my readings, they help, they're like a compass, I suppose, they're like a compass that helps me know what to experiment with and how to experiment with it. And I'll also add that you said earlier, a part of the chart, and this is where I love encouraging people to get readings with you, is understanding your purpose, right?

[01:02:05] So there's all of these nuggets that do directly apply to how you're operating your business, and what kind of work you're doing inside of your business. And Just to bring it all around to this being the Deeply Rested podcast, What I am finding is that the less you struggle the less you feel or believe like you're stuck, and the more rested you feel as a business owner.

[01:02:42] Jessica: I mean, everything is energy. That's how I now see the world, is through energy. When I explain being a projector to people, to people, there's the example that projectors are meant to magnetize toward them. Like people are drawn towards you. So it's like a magnet. If you turn the magnet around and you're trying to push yourself and other people, it pushes people away.

[01:03:34] It has an effect that you may not be aware of. The clearest you can be, and the cleanest you can be, where your energy is going and the intentions that you're setting right from the very beginning, and slowing down, like you said, to be conscious of what you're building moment to moment to moment, I think ultimately, even if it doesn't make sense to your mind in terms of its results, ultimately it's going to resonate like we were talking about and attract

[01:04:12] Maegan: Yeah, I mean, it's taking longer for me. So that resonates. And that's one of those places where I was saying earlier, I can fall back into stuckness, into the story of stuckness, right? It's like when things feel like they're taking longer. Then they're taking other people. That's where I can go into a little bit of that tantrum y space.

[01:04:51] It's the path of deepening. And that isn't work that can happen quickly. We need space for it. We need time for it. We need energy for it. I hope that people leave this conversation today feeling just like kinder to themselves. Right? Like, can you, can you be kinder? Can you be more loving?

[01:05:36] Jessica: Yeah, I agree. And if we can loop it back just to wrap up stuckness for a second and reframe stuckness, I think stuckness is an invitation to slow down, and to surrender or to maybe reexamine what is inauthentic about the way that you're approaching the moment.

[01:06:00] Jessica: And challenge yourself, if possible, in that moment of stuckness to find a gentler way. Whether that's just patience, whether it's trust, just leaning in a little bit more into

[01:06:31] Maegan: Stuckness is an invitation to slow down.

[01:06:36] Maegan: Me too. I hadn't put that catchy phrase to it, but it is forever embedded in my memory now. Stuckness is an invitation to slow down. Yeah. And an invitation to connect. Right. To connect with yourself, your higher self, to connect with loving others, to connect with the community.

[01:07:02] Jessica: No.

[01:07:12] Jessica: You're so sweet. Thank you.

[01:07:20] Jessica: So grateful for you,

[01:07:23] Light in energy, light in just... You just are a light in this world. I, I can't I can't say enough kind things about you and the way you've supported me and the readings that she's done with, she's done readings with my husband, Jonathan. And that's been fun too with my clients.

[01:07:58] And she knows just the reader to send them to. I, I can't help myself. I love it so much. So can you tell us, one, where is your Recommended place for people to go to get a copy of their body graph, and two, how can they book a reading with you?

[01:08:32] Maegan: genetic matrix.com is the one you like.

[01:08:42] So genetic matrix.com and you can check out my website by design withJess.com and feel free to check it out or send me a message and you can book a reading through the site.

[01:08:58] Jessica: Yeah, so my readings tend to go very deep. I have never received a human design reading from someone else. I just was nerdy about my chart, which is how I learned about it and taught myself. So, I can't compare it to what other people do, but I tend to go very deep. My readings are 90 minutes, we will talk about energy type and depth, and we talk about your profile.

[01:09:45] So I spent a lot of time, learning about that and developing that to share with people. And we look at your channels and your centers. It's big, it's deep, it goes deep, and it's really fun, and I think it helps put into context why you are the way that you are, and it's a big permission slip.

[01:10:22] Jessica: They probably still don't know what any of those words meant.

[01:10:34] Jessica: And I'll just explain it to you.

[01:10:49] Oh, it's so sweet. So it's partially, for me, that yummy weighted blanket. I'm being affirmed, I'm being validated, but it's also uplifting and it, like, piques my curiosity because I'm hearing things about myself that I'm like, Oh my God, is that true? Oh, I think that's true. Oh, okay. And then there's, I feel like a hunger and an excitement.

[01:11:32] Jessica: Something new. I'm still learning about myself. Like, I'm still getting layers and layers of my own... This stuff, it's like, it just goes so deep into human consciousness. Right? It's, it's, it's so deep. And, I like to articulate people's highest selves. That's my goal. I just want you to understand all of your potential and everything that you have the resources to be.

[01:12:16] So how do I move into stillness at this moment? How do I transmute this energy into its potential? And I think that can be powerful too. So

[01:12:30] Jessica: Oh yeah.

[01:12:32] Jessica: I would love to talk about that.

[01:12:49] So that's a great way to get into Jess's world as well. We're going to put all of these links in the show notes. Jessica Rose, everybody. Thank you so much for being here.

[01:13:05] Maegan: Gosh, thank you. I love you

[01:13:08] Maegan: Oh, I feel it. And this folks, you need these, you need these relationships in your life. If you don't have them, find them. They are so enriching. Thank you.