Have you ever thought, “Once I get there, I’ll be different”?
Maybe “there” was a new job, a new relationship, a new country. And then you got there and realised… you were still you.
We don’t talk about that part enough.
The truth is, you can change your external circumstances and still get a lot of the same old, same old.
So how do you make a change that actually makes you wake up in the morning and go, "I can't believe this is my life?"
In this episode, we’re digging into what turns a temporary change into lasting transformation, why identity matters so much more than we realise, and why the change must start within first.
Hello, and
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:welcome to another episode.
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:And we have a question for you.
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:Do you know the difference
between change and transformation?
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:We often hear people use them
interchangeably like they are
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:synonyms, and yet not quite.
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:So I'm sure that there have been many
times when you said you wanted a change.
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:Like, you want a new better
paid job that actually has fewer
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:responsibilities and is less stressful,
or you want a healthier body.
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:You wanna be more fit more toned.
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:You want a better relationship,
successful business, and you
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:know it's time to make a change.
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:And yet, is change really
what you're seeking?
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:Because think about the times in your
life when you have made a change,
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:and yet you've ended up exactly where
you started, or maybe things shifted
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:a little bit and yet you're like, "I
thought this was supposed to lead me
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:somewhere, and I feel exactly the same."
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:For example, you may have a different
job, and yet it's still as unfulfilling
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:and it's still as stressful
as the previous one.
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:So maybe you're getting a bit more money.
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:In reality, your life, your
enjoyment, the quality of your
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:life hasn't changed that much.
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:And if that is the case, we're
gonna argue that it's not enough
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:to change, because what you're
seeking The different outcome.
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:What makes your life extraordinary?
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:It's not so much change,
it's transformation.
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:So Dawn, can you share with
us the difference between
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:change and transformation?
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:Dawn: Absolutely.
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:So change is something that
actually happens around you.
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:It's like you change your hairstyle, you
change your clothes, you get new jewelry,
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:so you change your style with that.
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:You get new contact lenses
that have different eye color.
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:You're changing something.
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:That is all external to you.
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:Transformation is something
that happens within you.
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:It is a growth opportunity.
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:It is an internal thing.
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:And when we're talking about
change is external, think
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:about that we don't change.
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:Our personalities are our personalities
by the time we are eight years old.
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:And so those knee-jerk reactions,
reactions, guys, not responses, are
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:formed by the time we are eight years old.
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:And what we do when we respond,
that is transformation.
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:So changing that typical response or
that typical reaction to a response is
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:where we create that transformation.
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:So as you were mentioning
previously, like the new job, getting
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:healthier, those kinds of things.
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:Instead of a new job, you
become a better leader.
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:Instead of losing weight, you are
focusing on valuing your health.
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:What about relationships?
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:Because a lot of people stay in
relationships because of what
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:they experienced as children.
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:They're reliving those
relationships so they can heal them.
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:Well, what about leaving that unhealthy
relationship and that being the change
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:versus your transformation is that you
are actually healing the patterns that
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:you brought into that relationship so
you don't bring it into the future ones.
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:This is what transformation is.
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:And so basically, what we're gonna
look at is a time when changing your
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:circumstances didn't create lasting
results, as Giorgia previously mentioned.
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:There are many times in our
lives where we put something
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:into motion and nothing changes.
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:And oftentimes it's also because we
get discouraged or we don't stick with
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:it, and again, that is focusing on
the change versus the transformation.
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:Giorgia: Let me give you an
example so you understand, and
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:obviously circumstances may vary.
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:All of you have a similar story, I know.
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:Because of things that happened in
my childhood, I used to be a very shy
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:person, and I never had that many friends.
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:I didn't have a job that I liked.
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:Basically my world, because
of shyness, was very small.
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:And I, I didn't like my life.
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:I didn't like the people that
I was hanging around with.
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:I just didn't know how to
make a change, 'cause at the
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:time I was looking for change.
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:I thought that change
was the answer, right?
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:And I remember when I was speaking
about going to London, starting
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:my business there, everyone was so
worried because you are so shy, what
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:makes you think that when you go to
London things are going to change?
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:And in my mind it's like, are you kidding?
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:It's London, it's huge.
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:There are so many opportunities, and
once I'm there I'm gonna be different.
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:I'm gonna show up different
because my environment has changed.
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:And what I found is that,
yeah, some things did change.
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:For example, just being in a different
country where I had no friends,
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:where I had no job, where I also had
to deal with the bureaucracy, thank
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:goodness at the time there was no
Brexit, it was really easy to move.
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:At the same time, there are still
some documentation that you have
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:to provide when you move country.
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:And so there was some
opportunities where I was forced
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:to get outside my comfort zone.
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:And so I did some things differently.
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:At the same time, I was still the same
person myself, and even though I was
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:going out and speaking to more people,
I still had this anxiety within me.
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:I still identified very much as
shy and at first so uncomfortable,
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:and as soon as that interview was
over, I was like, "Oh, finally I
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:can just go home and be by myself."
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:So there was an improvement.
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:It was a marginal improvement.
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:So even though literally I was in
a different country with different
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:people, with a different job, in
the place that I loved the most on
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:the planet, my circumstances, my
external reality was very different.
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:Me, I was the same.
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:I was mostly, for 70% of the time I was
showing up still as that shy person.
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:And that was until I found the
leadership training, that me and Dawn
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:always talk about that really starting
changing something inside of me because
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:inside of me focusing on changing my
circumstances because at that point when
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:I was thought, "Okay, I am in London.
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:Things are not changing enough," then
I thought, "Okay, it must be the money.
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:When I make this amount of money, things
are gonna be different, or when I have a
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:partner things are gonna be different."
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:Like you see it's always this
external thing that gets to change.
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:And this leadership was like
looking inside within me.
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:What was I getting from being so shy?
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:Why was I still operating from that
playbook even though I was in a very
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:different space and with very different
people and a different country?
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:So leadership really was the catalyst
that allowed me to change myself.
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:It allowed me to see what pattern I was
playing out, how my identity, the way that
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:I saw myself was impacting my results.
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:Because when you change your identity,
then you change your results.
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:And if you are shy, you're not
gonna put yourself out there.
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:Or as we were saying before, someone
that wants to lose weight versus
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:someone actually values their health.
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:If you wanna lose weight, you may
just end up doing some very unhealthy
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:diets and just barely eat anything,
and then how long is that gonna last?
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:Whereas if you're someone that values
your health, you're gonna be like, "Okay,
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:let me actually see what food work for my
body and what food don't work for my body,
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:and what is the kind of activity that
I actually enjoy doing instead of just
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:killing myself with what I need to do."
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:And so it really is changing the identity
because change focuses on behaviors
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:and transformation focuses on identity.
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:And when I change the identity
from someone that is shy, just
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:introvert, as okay, an introvert
can go to the talking events, and
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:an introvert can speak on stages,
and an introvert can have a podcast.
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:It just making sure that I
have the time to prepare it.
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:So do you wanna share with us,
Dawn, more about why change,
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:just change alone doesn't last?
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:Dawn: Yeah, for sure.
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:So the biggest reason is that when we
focus on change versus transformation,
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:we're focusing on behaviors, changing
behaviors that we have incorporated in
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:our lives versus shifting our identity.
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:And so as we've brought up a couple
of times, is following a diet.
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:And I was talking to Giorgia just
before we started this episode, and I
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:said, "You know, diet starts with die."
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:The reason it starts with die
is because it's meant to end.
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:Right now, I tell people I'm following
a very rigid diet, and it is to support
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:my body continuing to recover from the
incident in the hospital over a year ago.
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:My lifestyle is still healthy.
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:My lifestyle still focuses on having
really good nutrient-dense foods
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:What I eat is still really healthy, it's
just very limited because I'm focusing on
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:healing very specific things in my body.
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:Now, other things we could say is,
"I'm reading a book on transformation.
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:I'm reading a book on leadership."
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:Yet there's no coach, there's no person
to support you, there's no person to
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:give you feedback, there's no actually
implementing what is in the book.
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:You can read 100 books and you have
all the knowledge in the world,
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:yet if you're not implementing it,
you're not changing the identity.
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:Same thing if you take another course.
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:I love learning.
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:I love taking courses, and I do my
best to look at them through new
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:eyes, even if it's a course similar
to something I've already taken.
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:Yet, if I'm just taking another course
and I'm not actually focusing on,
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:where is this course gonna lead me?
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:How do I get to shift?
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:It's not really focusing on the identity.
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:And setting another goal.
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:How many times do we set a goal at the
new year or halfway through the year?
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:I'm gonna have my bikini body.
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:I'm gonna go to the
gym three times a week.
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:I'm going to read 52 books this year.
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:Some kind of a goal.
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:I'm gonna climb Mount Everest.
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:Yet you could say you're gonna
climb Mount Everest, yet if you're
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:not putting in the effort to be the
identity of a person who actually climbs
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:Mount Everest, you're just setting
another goal that's not gonna change.
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:And so what I wanna say is that if
who you are being doesn't shift, then
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:the results usually don't either.
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:And I'm sure that many of you
know the phrase, insanity is doing
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:the same thing over and over and
expecting a different result.
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:Nothing is going to change until
you focus on the identity piece.
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:You can change all the behaviors in the
world, yet if you're not focusing on
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:shifting the identity, it doesn't last.
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:Giorgia, would you like to give
a tangible example of this?
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:Giorgia: Yeah.
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:So let's say again that you wanna lose
weight because you're gonna be healthier,
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:you want a better, more toned body, and
you've been doing many different diets.
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:You're doing the paleo and the
Atkins, I don't know whatever the
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:cool kids are doing today, and you
stick with them for a while and you
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:get some results, and then you stop.
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:Then you're like, "Okay,
this didn't really work out.
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:It wasn't sustainable for me.
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:Let's go with the next one."
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:And it's the same pattern.
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:It starts working for a while, and then
something happens, and you're not able to
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:keep it up, and so on and so on and so on.
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:So if the result came from the diet,
in this case, or from an external
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:tool, none of this will work, right?
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:None of this will work.
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:If you keep making changes and
experimenting with different things, and
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:yet the result is the same, and obviously
you're starting and stopping or maybe not
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:really getting that fulfillment that you
thought you were maybe getting from it
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:Then it's not diet itself,
it's who are you being.
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:Because any one of those diets where
there are people that have used any
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:of those diets and they lost their
weight with the diet, and they got
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:the more toned body with the diet.
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:So diet itself works.
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:It works though if you are being the
person that will see through, that
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:is commit to the diet, that actually
is consistent with the diet, that is
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:rigorous, and also that enjoys it.
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:Because, if you pick a diet that you
don't enjoy it's not going to work anyway.
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:And we are talking about
diet, it can be with anything.
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:It can be with business strategies,
or you keep dating the same
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:type of guy, even though he has
different names and different
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:looks, he's the same type of guy.
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:Ah.
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:It's not the diet, or the guy, or the
business strategy, it's who are you
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:being while you implement the strategy,
while you actually follow the diet.
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:Because if that doesn't change,
you will just keep going from one
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:thing to the other and still be
like, "Why is nothing working?"
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:You're not working because
you are not working within.
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:Dawn: The one thing I want to
say is in reference to the diet.
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:The person who says, "I'm gonna do
paleo," or, "I'm gonna do keto," and
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:they're very successful with it, is
usually a mindset shift that this is
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:going to be my lifestyle from here on out.
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:This is not just a temporary
diet that's going to end.
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:So when we shift that mindset to
lifestyle, that's where change really
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:starts to happen, transformation
starts to happen in our lives.
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:Giorgia: Transformation
is identity based, right?
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:So by following the diet long enough,
it just becomes who you are, and at
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:some point this is just the way that
you eat and so you don't get to question
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:anymore, you don't have doubts anymore.
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:This is just who you are.
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:It's the difference between a temporary
change and lasting transformation.
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:So you wanna share with us
what creates transformation?
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:Dawn: Yes.
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:So transformation starts with awareness.
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:That's the first thing.
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:Paying attention to what's going on
around you and what is going on inside
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:of you when you want to make a "change."
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:Why do you want the new job?
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:Why do you want to lose weight?
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:Why do you want a new partner?
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:Why do you want the new house?
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:Starting with understanding and becoming
aware of the reason behind the change
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:supports with the transformation.
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:Then you create a new
perspective, Changing your
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:perspective on the situation.
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:So Giorgia brought up a good
one in reference to a partner.
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:You attract the same type
of person every single time.
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:It doesn't matter, the looks change,
the height changes, the eye color
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:changes, body build changes, yet
underneath they're the same guy.
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:And now you've shifted and
said, "I'm aware that I keep
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:attracting the same person."
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:And you dig underneath that, and you
shift your perspective into, "I'm
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:gonna see what else is out there."
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:And that's where you come in with a
different response instead of reacting.
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:So what this means is stopping the
old habit of a fast emotional reflex,
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:meaning that when somebody triggers
you, you react to what they say and you
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:speak before you've actually thought
about how you wanna respond to this.
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:And then the focus would be changing
how you answer at that moment in time.
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:So I'll give an example here with me
is that up until leadership, I almost
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:always reacted when I felt triggered
by something that somebody said.
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:I would almost always get defensive
and feel like I needed to explain my
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:side, defend my side, and sometimes
it would become a heated argument.
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:Now, when I feel triggered, especially
with someone that is really close to me
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:I do my best, because we are creatures
of habit, and this is something that
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:I have had with me my entire life.
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:I do my best to pause and to get
myself centered before I respond.
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:Now, if this is a real time conversation,
it is a little bit more difficult
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:than an email or a text message.
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:Now, when it's a text message, oftentimes
I will wait until I feel like I have
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:digested, I have stepped back and paused
long enough to come back to that person
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:completely neutrally, and that means
without any emotion towards the situation.
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:No finger-pointing, no
argumentative phrases.
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:Nothing like that, just
these are the facts.
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:When it's an email, also again, easier.
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:Now, when it's face-to-face with
a person or even video, like
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:Giorgia and I are doing right
now, I may say, "You know what?
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:I need a few minutes.
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:Let me step away."
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:And I calm myself down, and I come back.
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:And if it still seems to be
that there's charged energy,
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:I'm like, "Can we table this?
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:Can we come back to this when
I feel calm and centered?
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:Because right now we're
gonna get nowhere."
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:And I think that's really important,
is that we choose that different
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:response versus reacting, and
the response is transformation.
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:Reacting focuses on change
as well as it's your pattern.
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:It's the same thing you've
done your whole life.
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:Then we go into new choices.
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:Now, you might think that a different
response and new choices are
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:the same thing, and they're not.
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:So what having a new choice means is
that you decide on a completely different
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:direction or action for your life.
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:So this would be like you draw
in the same person all the time.
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:It's the same guy every single time.
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:He's just dressed in different
clothing and different hair color,
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:and you're like, "Why do I keep
attracting the same person?"
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:Or we could even go to, "Why do
I keep getting the same kind of
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:job with a really crappy boss?"
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:Or, "Why do I keep doing something over
and over again and never finishing it?
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:Why don't I ever set boundaries?"
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:Okay?
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:Taking a different direction in all
of those Decide what makes you happy.
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:You're probably going into a job because
it's for the money, and you're not going
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:for what you're passionate about or
what you're actually naturally good at.
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:Finishing the hobby that you start
or the project that you start.
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:Learning to set those boundaries so
you actually support yourself, and it
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:also supports the people around you.
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:So what this means, the new choice,
is changing what you do next to create
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:that shift that you really truly desire.
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:And then lastly, it would
be consistent action.
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:Transformation is not one big thing.
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:It's many small decisions along the
way that reinforce who you're becoming.
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:It's just like Giorgia mentioned, I
don't know if it was in this episode
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:or a previous one, that it's all about
the little steps that we take, the
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:little things that make the big win.
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:If we look back at our lives,
when we die, there's just a
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:dash on our obituary, right?
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:And that dash is every single
tiny decision that we made
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:from our birth until we died.
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:And what a more beautiful way to
acknowledge our life than through
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:focusing on transformation versus change.
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:Focus on who we are becoming.
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:Focus on who we want to be and
how we get to be that person
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:Giorgia: So how do you
know that you transformed?
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:So, remember when I shared my
story before I moved to London,
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:yet I was still shy and scared of
leadership, and I changed my identity.
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:So when I was identifying as shy,
even doing a podcast like I'm
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:doing right now, was unthinkable.
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:It would give me anxiety.
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:The thought of hosting a master
class in front of just two people
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:would trigger a full-on panic attack.
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:I'm like, "No, I'm not doing that."
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:Now we've been podcasting for a year.
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:I have done master classes in front
of 200 people, and I felt excited.
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:Instead of feeling like "Oh
my God, this is so hard.
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:How do
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:I get out of this?
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:I am scared.
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:What if something goes wrong?"
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:I'm like, "Yes, I actually get to do this.
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:It's a piece of cake."
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:Not that I'm doing everything perfectly.
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:Obviously I'm still learning, I'm
still always evolving and improving.
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:There's just no anxiety,
doesn't feel hard anymore.
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:Or as a recovering people
pleaser, just saying no.
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:It's like, "My God, if I say
no this person's gonna hate me,
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:and I wanna be there for them.
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:What do I do?"
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:Now I'm like, "Okay, I'm gonna set
a boundary," and I don't feel bad.
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:I don't feel that guilt anymore
because I know that what's good
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:for me is also good for them.
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:Or speaking up when all the times I
didn't raise my voice, I didn't give
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:my opinion because I thought, "Oh
my God, what if I upset someone?"
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:Now I'm like, "Yeah, I'm gonna give my
opinion and if I upset you, I upset you."
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:Just with the understanding that if
you upset someone, there's a reason.
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:There's a conversation to be had.
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:There's an opportunity there.
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:So instead of thinking about, "Oh
my God, I'm gonna be … I'm gonna
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:lose everything if I speak up,"
I'm like, "Okay, I may ruffle some
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:So I trust that whatever
happens is the right thing that
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:So it's about responding differently
without the emotional charge, without
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:the guilt, the shame, the fear,
the anxiety, overwhelm, that causes
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:you to play small and to shrink.
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:Dawn: So one thing I want to say is
I met Giorgia shortly after she had
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:finished leadership training, and we
were coaching together over on this side
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:of the pond for a company called IGL.
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:And I can see the shift, even though
she'd already done leadership, just
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:from then to now in her ability to
set and be firm with her boundaries,
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:and to speak up and share her point of
view, share what's coming up for her.
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:It's this huge transformation.
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:Even though she'd already done
leadership, and she'd already been doing
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:those microsteps to make those shifts,
to transform to be a bold, powerful
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:leader, it still is this progression.
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:It was those tiny steps every single
day that led her to this place
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:that I feel completely comfortable
setting a boundary, and when I set a
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:boundary, my boundary is my boundary.
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:You are not stepping over that line.
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:And there are some times where I will
push that freaking line, I tell you what.
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:I have a very different personality,
and I understand the boundary
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:aspect, and sometimes I'm like,
"Is this really a boundary, or are
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:you just not playing full out?"
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:And so that's more my reasoning for
pushing her a little bit harder.
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:At the same time, when she's very clear,
"No, Dawn, this is really, truly a
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:boundary," I'm like, "Okay, then we get
to work around this," kind of thing.
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:So this is the thing other people notice
before you do that you have transformed.
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:I've mentioned this before one
time when I was in the States.
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:This was, 2023, last time I went back,
and I was talking with one of my nieces.
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:And she was sharing with me a
lot of things that were going
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:on with her in her life, and I
said, "Would you like my support?
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:Can I share my experience?
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:do you just want me to
listen and hold the bucket?"
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:And she's like, " where
did you learn this?
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:I don't remember you ever
asking me these questions."
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:She goes, "Never has anyone
in our family asked me this."
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:And I said, "Well, I did it in this
leadership training that I completed.
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:And I've learned that I can
be a really good listener.
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:I also understand that innately I
want to fix people's problems, and not
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:everybody wants someone to give them
that kind of support to tell them how
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:to fix what's going on in their life."
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:I can give an example last night
where someone was wanting to fix
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:what was going on in my life, and
I got really frustrated when I kept
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:I already have the way that I'm
going in my life and it's working."
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:And where I was three years ago,
two years ago, or even a year ago is
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:nothing like where I am right now.
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:Because it has taken those little steps
every single day to support myself
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with the decisions that I'm making.
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:And that's what really matters.
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:Now, there are people, that
person hasn't known me very long.
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half years ago that are like, "Gosh,
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:your transformation is insane,"
that have never done leadership,
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:that can see how much I've been
investing in me and transforming me.
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:Not focusing out, focusing in.
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:And it's really important
that we also focus in.
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:And with 70% of the world being people
who are more supportive in nature,
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:they wanna focus out naturally.
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:They want what's in it for everybody,
and they rarely focus within
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empathize with this because you are
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give ourselves that love, that grace,
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focus on our own transformation as well
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:Giorgia: Absolutely.
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:Well, thank you for sharing
your experience of me as
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:well, and also your story.
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:And what I really want to land with
people is, again, the leadership
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:training that we did is transformational.
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:I always say that there is
a before and after Giorgia.
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:And I do see the training as the moment
that I was really born, because there
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:is the physical birth, and the training
really helps you unleash the real you.
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:At the same time, what I really want
to land is that if we just look at
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and end all, and I just have to go
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:through the steps, and I will be
transformed, and my life will be
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:transformed, yes, that's the catalyst.
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:That
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gives the opportunity to transform.
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:It really is making the choice every
single day, even after the training has
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:ended, to keep implementing those tools,
because already from the first day of
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:the training to the last day of the
training, there was a huge shift in me.
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:And then from the day that we met to now,
it's been, again, another huge shift.
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:And it's because since I learned these
tools, I have been practicing them every
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:single day, and I can see that you've been
practicing them every single day as well.
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:And my experience with you is a lot
more trusting, in life, in the process,
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:Whereas before, especially with
your stuff, it used to be so hard.
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:Now that you are learning to give yourself
that grace, it's beautiful to see, really.
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:It's so beautiful to see.
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:Dawn: Thank you.
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:I think that, one, this summer being
as hot as it has been in Italy, and for
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:those of you who don't live in Italy,
Giorgia obviously is from here, so she
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:Giorgia: Do not go to Italy in the summer.
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:Please don't.
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:Please don't.
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:Dawn: I mean, it has been 105, 110.
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:The temperature has been astronomical,
and way earlier this summer than usual.
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:And I'm very grateful that I actually
have something called a split, that
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it all the time though, because the
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:other thing is in Italy electricity
is also astronomical in cost.
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:So- I think that is one thing though, the
heat saying, "You're gonna slow down."
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not really beating myself up because
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last year, Giorgia, you know that I
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I was a month behind of everything.
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when I got out.
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and we're gonna make you pause."
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:And I did.
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:I mean, guys, . there were days I had
five-hour naps, and you're probably like,
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:And I would wake up feeling bad
at first, like, gosh, how did
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obviously needs this."
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:Thank my body for telling me that I need
this, and that I gave myself permission
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and just wake up whenever I woke up.
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:And fortunately, I'm on the
downwind, I think, of all of that.
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or two versus three, four, five-hour naps.
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the support of Giorgia, Abi, and
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supported me to give myself that
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:And that trusting, as you said,
like bringing up the trust thing,
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:trusting that my body knows what it
needs in this moment, in this time.
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and three months ago, I was trusting
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and I ended up in the hospital dead.
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as there was a bit of stubbornness of
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:Giorgia: Bit?
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:Dawn: Here.
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:Yeah, just a little bit.
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:A little bit of stubbornness in that
I don't like the medical system here.
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:I unfortunately haven't had the best
experience, whereas there are other
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:people who have amazing experiences.
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:Emergency situations,
they've been pretty good.
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:The day-to-day, not so much.
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:Or once you're not in that
emergency situation anymore,
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:to me it hasn't been great.
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:And so that was the other thing of
me resisting going to the doctor
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:and having somebody check me out.
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:Giorgia: It wasn't just that
though, it was continuing to
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"Well, actually, let me do a bit less.
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situations that are not healthy
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:right now so that I can…"
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:the medical thing I
understand coming from Italy.
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:Just that stubbornness to me was
more like, "No, I want to operate
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:at maximum capacity even though
my body doesn't work well."
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:That too.
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:Dawn: That too.
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:And- and guys, some of us
who always operate at maximum
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:We don't even realize it until our
bodies shut down and say, "I can't."
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this summer and I'm so grateful that I
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me, and they're understanding.
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:And they're like, "Finally, you're
taking a freaking pause, girl.
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:We've been telling you
for weeks, if not months.
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:When are you gonna slow down?"
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:And I did, and thankfully they
have just been my cheerleaders the
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"Take as much time as you need."
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:And you also get to have
those people in your corner.
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:When it comes to transformation,
so gearing back towards the
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:When we talk about change, change
says, "What do I need to do?"
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:And I'm purposely using that
word need, and please go listen
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:to our episode on need because
it's a pretty, pretty cool one.
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:Transformation is asking,
"Who do I get to be?
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:Who do I get to become?"
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:And that's really the crux of what we
want to support you with understanding
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:the difference between the two.
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:What do I need to do
versus who do I get to be?
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:One is a way of being, and as we've done
an episode on be, do, have, we are human
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:beings who do things to have things.
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:Not human doings who have things
to be things, or human havings
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:who do things to be things.
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:The be is always first.
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:And so who do we get to be
to create the transformation
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:that we desire in our lives?
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:Giorgia: The main thing we wanna land
with you is that your freedom isn't about
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:just changing your exact circumstances.
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:It's in becoming the kind of person
who can create different circumstances.
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:Because change's just a one-time event,
transformation though is a process that
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:actually transforms who you are being.
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:And while anyone can experience change,
not everyone allows themselves the
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:process to be transformed, become the
person who can create your reality.
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:And so if you've been listening to
this, and you've been making lots of
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:changes, none of them seems to stick,
none of them is landing you where
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:you actually wanna be in your life,
you're not creating the results you
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:want in your life, then get in touch.
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:We will put the details in the
show notes below, get in touch.
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:And we are launching a new program
that will support you exactly with
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:this, to transform yourselves into the
person who can create what you want.
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:And within 90 days, you are going
to get the first tangible outcome.
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:So if in 90 days you want to lose some
weight, or you want to start a business,
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:or you wanna get more clients, we're
gonna support you in becoming that
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:person, transform to the person who
can have that, and by 90 days your
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:goal will actually become your reality.
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:So get in touch with us and
let's talk about what this
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:process can look like for you