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This podcast episode features an in-depth conversation with Charlie Rymer, who shares his profound personal journey through a recent battle with stage three colon cancer. Highlighting the paramount importance of regular cancer screenings, Rymer emphasizes that early detection can significantly alter one's prognosis, a lesson he learned through his own experiences. As he reflects on his recovery and the challenges he faced during treatment, he also underscores the necessity of support from friends and family during such trying times. Furthermore, the dialogue transitions into the evolving landscape of professional golf, addressing recent developments such as the impact of the LIV Golf series and the financial dynamics within the PGA Tour. By intertwining personal anecdotes with broader insights into the golfing world, this episode serves as both a testament to resilience and a clarion call for proactive health measures.
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- Painted Hills Natural Beef
- Birdie Ball
- Kia
- MD Anderson
- Ace Hardware
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It's time for Grilling at the Green.
Speaker A:Join Jeff Tracy as he explores the.
Speaker B:Golfing lifestyle and tries to keep it.
Speaker A:In the short grass.
Speaker B:For the hackers, new sweepers and turf spankers.
Speaker C:Here's Jeff.
Speaker A:Just open up the door, and let's take good times.
Speaker C:Tomorrow's gonna be better than today.
Speaker A:This is an encore.
Speaker A:Hey, everybody.
Speaker A:Welcome to Grilling at the Green.
Speaker A:I'm jt and this is the show that, you know, that we talk to the characters, curmudgeons and carefree souls that the game of golf, something fun and interesting for all of us, all of us who really enjoy it.
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Speaker A:well, he's back, the big timer, our good friend Charlie Reimer, formerly of the Golf Channel and now the roving ambassador there for Myrtle Beach.
Speaker A:Charlie, how are you?
Speaker C:I'm great.
Speaker C:Jeff, how are you doing?
Speaker C:I'm happy that we're in a.
Speaker C:Happy that we're in a new year.
Speaker C: So: Speaker C:I know it's gonna be great for me, and I hope it's good for everybody.
Speaker A:I think it will be.
Speaker A:Well, I got a new hinge, so we're going to do that.
Speaker A:But I wanted to ask you about that.
Speaker A:Last time we talked to you, you were just dragging your butt out of a bout with COVID and that was pretty devastating.
Speaker A:I know, because we talked several times about that.
Speaker A:But then you had another little issue pop up.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm through.
Speaker C:I'm through with issues.
Speaker C:I'm not going to let myself get anything.
Speaker C:No, I was going in just for regular physical.
Speaker C: s it was probably late middle: Speaker C:Late 21, something like that.
Speaker C:And, you know, they sent me to get the colonoscopy, which I'd had before, and.
Speaker C:And that first time woke up, hey, you're good to go.
Speaker C:This time it's like, yeah, we need to talk a little bit.
Speaker C:And so had some issues there, and it took a.
Speaker C:Took a while to sort of figure things out.
Speaker C:And multiple colonoscopies, different kinds of advanced things they try to do with me.
Speaker C:And ultimately they.
Speaker C:They said, hey, we're gonna, we're gonna have to do this thing where we take about a foot of your colon.
Speaker C:And I'm like, well, that doesn't sound so good how much you, you know, leaving for me.
Speaker C:And they're like, oh, you got like another 18ft or whatever.
Speaker C:So I'm like, well, I feel good about that anyway.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And, and, but we thought that they were doing this procedure before what I had, which was a pretty aggressive polyp, actually turned into cancer.
Speaker C:And so the surgery was successful.
Speaker C:I had some pretty nasty complications from it.
Speaker C:Kept me in the hospital for about 10 days.
Speaker C:But one day there, my surgeon who was great, he stuck his head in the door and oh, by the way, you got stage three colon cancer.
Speaker C:And my wife, who's a nurse, you know, we just looked at him like what.
Speaker C:We thought we were getting it before, you know, it turned to cancer.
Speaker C:But all the biopsies that we've done previously were, you know, they were non cancerous.
Speaker C:And so that led to some treatment.
Speaker C:I chose to go down to MD Anderson in Houston.
Speaker C:Those people were just amazing.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker C:And I had unbelievable oncologists.
Speaker C:So I told them that I hadn't been looking anything on the Internet, that I was a fully compliant patient and I wasn't going to negotiate.
Speaker C:And, and that that my oncologist, he's like, man, I wish you tell all my patients that.
Speaker C:And, and so I did just exactly what they told me to do when they told me to do it.
Speaker C:And, and so the chemo, I, I don't know if you've ever dealt with it, but some folks had asked me about it.
Speaker C:You know, my, my comment is it sucks giant monkey balls.
Speaker C:That's chemo.
Speaker C:And, and so anyway, I'm now, gosh, sneaking up on nine months of being cancer free, which is great.
Speaker C:So all the treatments worked and, and hopefully, you know, it'll, it'll stay away.
Speaker C:There's no hopefully it's going to stay away, but it's, it's been a tough year.
Speaker C:And you know, you get, you know, there's things like you get the cancer free and, and, and you know, I met a lot of folks.
Speaker C:I mean, I never knew anybody that had cancer until I had it.
Speaker C:And you meet a lot of folks on the journey.
Speaker C:You know, it's like golf.
Speaker C:You meet people and.
Speaker C:Sure.
Speaker C:And, and you know, there's all kinds of outcomes in the world of cancer.
Speaker C:And, and you learn a lot about yourself.
Speaker C:I certainly did.
Speaker C:And, and, but it's, you know, it presents ongoing challenges.
Speaker C:You know, like you take the chemo.
Speaker C:Most people that I know that have had chemo end up having neuropathy, you know, so, like, my feet have been numb forever, and numb, you know, in the afternoon, turns into hurt.
Speaker C:Not looking for any sympathy, but it does hurt.
Speaker C:And fingertips are, you know, pretty numb.
Speaker C:And then, you know, you end up having a.
Speaker C:Had to get a hernia.
Speaker C:About half the people have the surgery I have end up getting a hernia.
Speaker C:So I had a alien living in my belly for a while, and when I stood up, he'd poke his head out.
Speaker C:My wife and I call him Little Charlie.
Speaker C:Drew a little smiley face on there, sort of like, you know, Tom Hanks in that Wilson soccer ball.
Speaker C:He was my buddy, you know.
Speaker C:Now apparently, there's some.
Speaker C:They.
Speaker C:They cut some.
Speaker C:Some screen out of a screen port somewhere and put that in there, and Little Charlie's gone.
Speaker C:I sort of miss him, but not that much.
Speaker C:But, you know, just little things like that you got to deal with, and it just.
Speaker C:It just takes a while.
Speaker C:And it's emotional, too.
Speaker C:You know, you just think, well, cancer is sort of like when I got Covid.
Speaker C:I mean, I got it really early.
Speaker C:My kid came home from college, and that's how I got it.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And nobody knew what it was, but.
Speaker C:But, yeah, cancer's.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:There's.
Speaker C:There ain't nothing good about cancer, I can tell you that.
Speaker C:So folks that are dealing with it, you got somebody, you know, reach out to them, send them a text, and, you know, people ask me, I didn't know what to do.
Speaker C:I didn't know what to call or text.
Speaker C:Yeah, just send somebody a text and say, hey, I'm thinking about you.
Speaker C:Because it means a lot to hear from folks when.
Speaker C:When you're struggling and especially going through that chemo or some hurts from surgeries and that sort of stuff, Right?
Speaker A:I know my.
Speaker A:I don't know if I've ever said this on this show, but my sister beat lung cancer and brain cancer.
Speaker A:This was 24 years ago, and she's still going, but she's meaner in a cut.
Speaker A:Cat in a screwing contest.
Speaker A:So, I mean, you know.
Speaker C:Well, that's what it takes, right?
Speaker A:That's what it takes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, Tough.
Speaker A:And, you know, we see this stuff, Charlie, on.
Speaker A:On tv, and when you go into your doctor's office just for a checkup, it's always, you know, you should get screened for.
Speaker A:For colon cancer or prostate cancer, you know, something with the C word attached to it.
Speaker A:And I think most of us kind of like, maybe you do the screening.
Speaker A:Maybe you do the, the smear test or whatever, and you say, I'm good, and then you don't think about it anymore.
Speaker A:But as you said, getting.
Speaker A:Before we came on the show today, you said this getting old is kind of a bitch.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah, and we're not that old, but it creeps up on you.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah, it does.
Speaker C:Well, back.
Speaker C:Back to the screening part.
Speaker C:The latest.
Speaker C:The latest conversation I had with.
Speaker C:With my oncologist, Dr. Kopetz, out in MD Anderson, who was just, gosh, I mean, I couldn't ask for a better doc.
Speaker C:You know, he's like electrical engineering from Vanderbilt and medical from Johns Hopkins, residency at Duke.
Speaker C:He writes, does articles, he does interviews, he teaches while he sees patients, and he's just incredible and one of the best in the world.
Speaker C:And I asked him, I said, doc, you know, I feel blessed that I got a good prognosis.
Speaker C:And had I not got my screening and you guys caught this early, I get the feeling that all of these conversations and treatment that I've had with you would have been very different.
Speaker C:And, and my options would have been limited and not very good.
Speaker C:I said, is that correct?
Speaker C:He said, absolutely, that's correct.
Speaker C:And, and so.
Speaker C:And I think in particular for men, there's something embarrassing about getting a colonoscopy.
Speaker C:And it's.
Speaker C:Guys, it's.
Speaker C:It.
Speaker C:Believe me, it's not that big a deal.
Speaker C:And, And.
Speaker C:But I do recommend to get that first appointment.
Speaker C:If you get that first appointment, it gives you your best chance to having a clean pipe when they.
Speaker C:In there.
Speaker C:You know, just my take on that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker C:But it's.
Speaker C:It's vital to get these screenings because if they, if you got an issue and they get it early, the tools available to them are numerous.
Speaker C:And, and if you put it off, put it off.
Speaker C:Put it off until it's hurt or you're bleeding.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:The tools available to them are very much limited, and your prognosis is going to be a lot different.
Speaker C:So that's just, you know, I feel like that's my, My mission moving forward is let people know.
Speaker C:Get your cancer screening, you know, for whatever is available, whenever they say you're supposed to get it.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker C:Let those screenings do their job and they.
Speaker C:They really will save your lives.
Speaker C:I'm convinced it saved my life.
Speaker A:Well, I'm sure it did.
Speaker A:We're going to take a break here on Girling at the Green, and we're going to be back after the break with the big timer, Charlie Reimer, right after this.
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Speaker A:This is an encore.
Speaker A:Welcome back to Grilling at the Green.
Speaker A:I'm JT and today we've got our buddy Charlie Reimer with us.
Speaker A:You know, we're on all the platforms.
Speaker A:After it finishes on the radio, we convert it to a podcast so you can find it on most all of the podcast platforms and it's pretty, pretty easy to find.
Speaker A:And of course we've got Facebook and Twitter and all that jazz.
Speaker A:But anyway, we're talking with Charlie here.
Speaker A:Since you haven't been on the show for a while, a lot has transpired.
Speaker A:We're going to switch from medical to golf.
Speaker A:Medical is medical golf.
Speaker A:I think probably some of us need a psychological help.
Speaker A:I'm not sure about that, but wow, what I miss.
Speaker C:Is there something going on in the world of golf I should know about?
Speaker A:So I just, I don't think I asked you this last time you were on the show because it was quite a while ago.
Speaker A:But a lot has happened with live golf and the, and the tour and even the LPGA Tour.
Speaker A:Why don't you give us the, The Charlie Reimer 2 minute overview and then we'll get into some specifics.
Speaker C:Well, if I, I would have practiced a lot harder and played a lot more seriously if I'd have known there's going to be the kind of money that's available to these players now.
Speaker C:I mean, wow, I look at some of these numbers and it's just astronomical and creating really generational wealth.
Speaker C:And, and I, I guess my, my main observation would be that, that the whole, the whole thing with the, with Phil Mickelson and the ship nut interview and the way Phil sort of tackled it and, and, and being a little stronger Phil than even he is made the whole thing a lot nastier than maybe it would have been.
Speaker C:And, and having said that, it was still going to be pretty nasty.
Speaker C:You know, the PGA Tour is, is since its formation is all about been keeping, you know, everybody tight together.
Speaker C:You know, we're all on the same program.
Speaker C:He goes back to, you know, Arnold Palmer, and if you.
Speaker C:If you acted up in a.
Speaker C:In a Pro Am, it was sort of like he was a.
Speaker C:The fraternity captain, and he would talk to you, hey, you know, we got to keep all this together.
Speaker C:And as a game is evolved, it's.
Speaker C:It's the.
Speaker C:And the money has grown, it's clearly changed a lot.
Speaker C:You just have to market yourself as a personality if you're going to really make a lot of money.
Speaker C:And even before Liv came along, you know, those days were gone because it's all about what you do on the golf course.
Speaker C:You put yourself in a bubble and go out play golf and doing the other things that, you know, guys like Arnold Palmer had to do or Peter Jacobson had to do to really make a lot of money.
Speaker C:You know, that's a distraction from golf.
Speaker C:So the game was already changing anyway.
Speaker C:And then.
Speaker C:And then it's pretty clear that the PGA Tour wasn't paying the players enough because Somehow they've found 100 million for this and 100 million for that.
Speaker C:So some of the points that Phil Mickelson actually made, maybe not in the best way, were actually right because there was clearly money there that wasn't being distributed to the players.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And, you know, so many things have changed, you know, not only in golf, but in sports in general.
Speaker C:And you look at name, image and likeness.
Speaker C:Look at what that's done for college football and the transfer portal and all of that.
Speaker C:Now golf is going to be a game where it's, you know, used to be got to make the cut to get paid, and, you know, people got to get their head around that.
Speaker C:But every other sport, you, you know, you step on the field or the court, you get paid.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:Golf never been that way, but now it's sort of, you know, coming around.
Speaker C:And I guess the whole thing that, you know, beyond being jealous of what the players are making, you know, the.
Speaker C:Whether you jump ship or you didn't jump ship, you know, the amount of money that you're making is you may be tripled, and that's pretty impressive.
Speaker C:But the thing that probably bothered me the most about it is, you know, some of the guys that said, hey, PGA Tour, I'm out of here, and then they got to live and then come back and sue the PGA Tour, I'm like, if you're going to leave, leave.
Speaker C:You know, Kevin Na did it that way.
Speaker C:Dustin Johnson did it that way, you know, initially, they got it right.
Speaker C:Thank you.
Speaker C:VGA Tour.
Speaker C:I've got this opportunity over here.
Speaker C:I'm going to go do this.
Speaker C:And they're not trying to, you know, have it both ways.
Speaker C:And I think that's.
Speaker C:That's a little bit of a problem.
Speaker C:And, and it'll be interesting that the folks that I talk to and what I read and outlast, and I've always been a Greg Norman fan, but I wonder just if he's enjoying this a little bit more than maybe he should, you know, some sometimes having a little vengeance rather than making good business decisions.
Speaker C:That just, you know, an observation.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker C:It's going to take a while.
Speaker C:I mean, it's.
Speaker C:I think it's going to end up being good for fans because most of the time now, when you watch golf, if Liv ever gets on tv, you're going to be seeing more of the best players together than we've ever seen in the past.
Speaker C:I think that's going to be good for fans.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:But there'll be some things that shake out that won't be so good, I'm sure, as well.
Speaker A:Well, I, I.
Speaker A:You know, you made a comment earlier there about there was money available.
Speaker A:Let me tell you what I parallel that to.
Speaker A:In the state where I live in Oregon, they were always.
Speaker A:Years ago, they were always throwing more massive bond measures or tax increases at us, and they would fail.
Speaker A:And then three months after the election, they'd say, oh, by the way, we found $100 million sitting over here in this account that we didn't know we had, and that'll take care of that problem.
Speaker A:And it's kind of like, come on, guys, you know, deal with this in an appropriate business like fashion, and nobody will bitch too much.
Speaker A:But this miraculous appearance of these large amounts of money, and they say, boom, here we are.
Speaker A:Okay, we can do this.
Speaker A:Now, to your point, why didn't they do that 15, 20 years ago?
Speaker A:Is, you know, it's kind of got me scratching my head, and I just doesn't.
Speaker C:Yeah, it doesn't smell.
Speaker C:It doesn't smell right when they do it.
Speaker C:And the other thing, too, is technically the players, the members on the tour.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:So if you look at most of the other major league sports or all the other major league sports, you've got owners, and you've got players that are getting paid well.
Speaker C:The, the, the players are the owners.
Speaker C:And, and so I think a lot of staff on behest of the board.
Speaker C:The PGA Tour has gotten too aggressive in what they're doing and somewhat bullied the players.
Speaker C:And really, a lot of the players are asking, like, well, you know, you exist to create money to pay me.
Speaker C:That's what you exist for.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:And that wasn't necessarily the case.
Speaker C:It's going to have to be the case moving forward.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:You know, and that in my day, Greg Norman was number one in the world.
Speaker C:John Daly was a big story.
Speaker C:Those are the guys that drove golf.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And I think that the PGA Tour got away from rewarding the star players and.
Speaker C:And had more emphasis on playing opportunities for the folks farther down the pack.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And that's clearly a strategy that.
Speaker C:That didn't work.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And I mean, the PGA Tour is the ultimate and trickle down.
Speaker C:You got to take care of the stars, and the rest of us are the Washington Generals, and we get the scraps.
Speaker C:I mean, that's just.
Speaker C:That's just the way it is.
Speaker C:And that's gonna.
Speaker C:That's gonna be the way it is moving forward.
Speaker C:Good, good, bad or otherwise.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:We're gonna take another break.
Speaker A:We're gonna be back with Charlie.
Speaker A:Mr. Charlie Reimer.
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Speaker A:So how's your golf game?
Speaker A:Are you able to play now since the surgeries and stuff?
Speaker C:Well, my grilling game is better than my golf game.
Speaker C: h golf this year and well, in: Speaker C:I didn't play much golf and.
Speaker C:And then I've had some more surgery in December and.
Speaker C:And I've never gone this long really without playing golf in my whole life and.
Speaker C:And I'm.
Speaker C:I'm itching to get out there and play.
Speaker C:I'm going to take a trip to Hawaii for a couple weeks into January and the beginning of February.
Speaker C:The first week I'm taking my whole family out there.
Speaker C: emo Tour rhyme or Hawaii trip: Speaker C:And is celebrating me beating cancer and.
Speaker C:And I'm going to take my clubs and hopefully get a chance to play with.
Speaker C:With my boys.
Speaker C:I cashed in a gazillion frequent for the trip and then I'll stay the following week.
Speaker C:I'll actually do a show for Golf Channel that benefits Children's Miracle Network hospitals that it causes, I believe dearly in Ace Hardware sponsors is called a shootout.
Speaker C:So hopefully we'll get to play a little golf in Hawaii and this hernia will come poking out in the middle of my stomach again.
Speaker C:So, you know, you don't golf.
Speaker C:Something I've always been able to do.
Speaker C:It's always been there and you get burned out.
Speaker C:And I'm to the point that I really miss it and can't wait to get back out and play a little bit.
Speaker A:Bada boy.
Speaker A:I'm glad to hear that for you.
Speaker A:I had one of those little guys, Jeff Jr. For a while a few years ago, and they put that screen in there too and made a world of difference because a little bugger, if he wasn't having a bad day, he got really sore on me.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Hernias are.
Speaker C:They're real common and everybody is ask, no big deal.
Speaker C:It's a hernia.
Speaker C:Well, if you hadn't had one, it hurts.
Speaker C:The surgery is.
Speaker C:It hurts for a couple of weeks.
Speaker C:No doubt about that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I had been able to lift more than 10 pounds and.
Speaker C:And my wife's like, well, that's no big deal.
Speaker C:You never lift more than 10 pounds anyway.
Speaker C:She didn't make a point.
Speaker C:But swinging that golf club for the first time, it'll take a little while to trust it, I'm sure.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:And I thought you Know, I.
Speaker A:It was kind of a day surgery deal.
Speaker A:And I got home and I was all kind of dressed up like a Christmas goose, you know, and all that stuff.
Speaker A:And they said, well, shouldn't be too bad.
Speaker A:I went to get up the next morning, I woke up and everything from my chest to my toes hurt, you know, and.
Speaker A:And they said, oh, you'll be able to get up and move around.
Speaker A:I thought you lying.
Speaker A:I won't tell you what name I got.
Speaker C:Yeah, I got one of these, like a big.
Speaker C:They call it a binder.
Speaker C:It's a big Velcro thing around the middle section.
Speaker C:And my wife's a nurse.
Speaker C:She was helping me put it on the first day, and she's like, you look like a pig in a blanket.
Speaker C:Thanks, baby.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker A:Well, one of the back to.
Speaker A:Back to golf away from Charlie's and my medical woes, I'm.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:One thing I'm kind of pleased with is the LPGA is getting a little more coverage.
Speaker A:They're getting a little more money.
Speaker A:We have a LPGA tournament here in Portland.
Speaker A:It's been around here for 50 years.
Speaker A:Literally 50 years.
Speaker A:I'm happy to see that because I just think the girls need a little more coverage.
Speaker A:Granted, the big tour is the big draw, and I get that, but some of these girls are pretty dang good sticks, and they can whoop on you.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The quality of play on the LPGA Tour in terms of depth is definitely increased dramatically.
Speaker C:And from my days at ESPN and then Golf Channel, I would probably.
Speaker C:At least the first 10 years or 15 years, I'd probably cover about 5 LPG LPGA events a year.
Speaker C:And, you know, at that time, there wasn't 25 or 30 ladies that were making a decent living.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:And you're playing the number one tour in the world.
Speaker C:And to make things work financially and you can't really, you know, a lot of them couldn't really afford a hotel room.
Speaker C:They're staying with host families and traveling together.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And it was.
Speaker C:It was really sad to see.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And so every time I ever got a chance, when it came up purse levels, listen, they got it.
Speaker C:They gotta.
Speaker C:We gotta raise them for.
Speaker C:For ladies golf.
Speaker C:And I'll use the example of the usta, the men and the women will get paid the same amount of money if you win the US Open and tennis.
Speaker C:And I said, you know what?
Speaker C:The USGA needs to lead on this.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And, you know, they.
Speaker C:They never would.
Speaker C:I got a lot of kickback and, And.
Speaker C:But now, finally, those burst levels are starting to, to rise and, and I'm thrilled to see it for the ladies.
Speaker C:And, you know, there's a lot more than 30 out there now that are making a real good living for, you know, being one of the best in the world.
Speaker C:If you're, if you're top 100 in the world in anything, you ought to be making a great living.
Speaker C:They weren't.
Speaker C:Now they are.
Speaker C:And, and I, I think it's wonderful to see what's happening with LPGA golf worldwide.
Speaker A:Yes, I do too.
Speaker A:So, you know, we, they used to call it golf silly season, and now we've got some made for TV events like the, you know, the father son deal, the, the match, if you will.
Speaker A:I wanted to get your take on those.
Speaker A:You know, we just saw Tiger and Rory played Jordan and Justin and it was fun.
Speaker A:I will, I watched it.
Speaker A:I thought it was a lot of fun.
Speaker A:They throw some digs at each other and they, you know, don't concede putts when they, when they normally would.
Speaker A:Just fun things like that.
Speaker A:I want to get your take on those.
Speaker A:And do you think it's good for the game?
Speaker C:Yeah, I think it's good for the game.
Speaker C:Especially when you're starting to involve Tom Brady or Tom or Peyton Manning.
Speaker C:You're bringing some, some celebrities in.
Speaker C:I enjoyed watching those matches.
Speaker C:I don't know how long they'll have a run.
Speaker C:You know, it seems like when the first two or three, everybody wants to see it and it's new and it's shiny and, and it seems like maybe the viewership is down a little bit on that.
Speaker C:Maybe they, you know, need to look at tweaking it a little bit.
Speaker C:But the, and you mentioned the father son, which is Grand Lakes Orlando, my former home course, when I was with Golf Channel in Orlando.
Speaker C:Really neat place with the Ritz and the JW Marriott there.
Speaker C:I mean, the father son just can't miss tv, you know, but just, but nothing else.
Speaker C:Just for Tiger Charlie Woods.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:And, and so I, I think those events are fun.
Speaker C:I, I, I remember and I miss it.
Speaker C:I was thinking this Thanksgiving, I, I didn't really find a whole lot of golf I wanted to watch.
Speaker C:I mean, I remember the old Skins game, you know, it go out.
Speaker C:You know, you'd play the stadium course at PGA west and nobody ever seen anything like that.
Speaker C:And all the top announcers were there and Lee Trevino was there running his mouth and that was sort of, and I mean that in a positive way because nobody runs his mouth better than Lee Trevino.
Speaker C:He's one of my heroes.
Speaker C:But it was just sort of can't miss tv and that of course, that sort of ran its course.
Speaker C:But what's going to be interesting is next year, this Monday night programming that Tiger is involved with, that Roy's involved with, they're going to be in arenas, it's going to use technology.
Speaker C:The live TV.
Speaker C:Mike McCarley, who was my president when I was at Golf Channel, is running.
Speaker C:There's a lot, a lot of smart people involved in this, this Monday night stadium simulator.
Speaker C:I don't, I don't have any idea how they're going to do it, but I think that's going to get a lot of eyeballs and especially if you look at how many young people are coming to the game through topgolf and simulator golf and all that sort of thing.
Speaker C:So I think that's got a chance to really ignite a lot of young people in the game just because it's completely different than anything we've ever seen.
Speaker A:Well, and they grew up with technology.
Speaker A:You and I didn't.
Speaker A:We were behind the learning curve when we got our first cell phone.
Speaker A:And you take a 15 year old now and he's been or she have been doing it since they were two.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker A:Not just with video games on the TV or.
Speaker A:But they have phones, they have laptops, tablets, what have you.
Speaker A:I think it's a smart move myself.
Speaker C:Yeah, I do too.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:When I was a kid, the only two toys I had were my Tonka truck and my Pee Pee.
Speaker C:That was it.
Speaker C:That's all I needed.
Speaker C:I didn't know I needed anything else.
Speaker A:You know, growing up on the farm, it was usually me on the end of a long handled cleaning instrument.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:They're out there with a wheelbarrow that was shoveling it.
Speaker A:Shoveling it.
Speaker A:Those were my toys.
Speaker A:Like that.
Speaker C:Things that have change.
Speaker C:You still shoveling it.
Speaker A:Different tools, but it still works for some reason like that.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's.
Speaker A:It's all good.
Speaker A:We're going to take another break and when we come back, Bruce Furman is going to jump in for a second and give us his golf tip of the week.
Speaker A:Then we're going to talk to Charlie about some things.
Speaker A:And then the after hours, I created a lightning round, which I do on my other shows, and I finally did it for the golf show.
Speaker A:And we're going to put Charlie through the lightning round in the after hours.
Speaker A:So we're going to be doing that.
Speaker A:We're going to take a break here on grilling it.
Speaker A:To green.
Speaker A:And we'll be right back after these messages.
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Speaker A:This is an encore.
Speaker A:Welcome back to Brilliant Green.
Speaker A:Today our is the world famous Charlie Reimer is our guest.
Speaker A:But first we're gonna get a little golf tour from Bruce Fuhrman, the director of golf at Langdon Farms.
Speaker B:Okay, this is Bruce Fuhrman.
Speaker B:I'm the director of instruction out at Langdon Farms.
Speaker B:I'm going to give you a tip to how to put spin on your ball.
Speaker B:You see the pros, a lot of times the ball will spin back sometimes way too much.
Speaker B:And a lot of times amateurs can't do that very well.
Speaker B:There's a number of things that it takes to be able to put spin on the ball.
Speaker B:First, the course factors have to be in your favor.
Speaker B:You have to have softer greens because of watering or rain.
Speaker B:The green needs to be banked more into you.
Speaker B:You need to be have the wind either negligible or into you, not downwind.
Speaker B:And then what kind of ball are you using?
Speaker B:There's different types of balls that some spin a lot more than others.
Speaker B:Some are harder, more for distance.
Speaker B:Those are definitely harder to spin.
Speaker B:And then there's some club factors, particularly with your wedges.
Speaker B:Are your wedges more on the new side where you have good grooves or are they worn down?
Speaker B:If those, if those grooves are worn down, it's a lot harder to spin the ball.
Speaker B:So one thing also that you have to do is to hit center contact.
Speaker B:Hit the ball right in the sweet spot.
Speaker B:And if you do that with some clubhead speed, that helps you hit backspin.
Speaker B:The angle of attack, as we call it, must be the correct angle.
Speaker B:So you have to hit down on the ball, hitting the ball first.
Speaker B:If you hit the turf a little bit first, you're not going to get much spin.
Speaker B:You can certainly hit too much down on the ball, so that can be a problem.
Speaker B:And if you hit too much down.
Speaker B:That'll hit high on the club, and it won't have too much spin.
Speaker B:But we do want to have a, we call the downward angle of attack where we hit the ball first.
Speaker B:And so that means your weight has to be on your front leg.
Speaker B:The handle has to be forward of the club head, and you're going to catch it right in the middle of the club face on a slightly descending blow.
Speaker B:And if you do that, that'll create spin, and that'll stop the ball.
Speaker B:I hope that helps.
Speaker A:Thank you, Bruce.
Speaker A:We appreciate that.
Speaker A:And like I said, if you want to find out more about Bruce, you can go to the langdonfarms.
Speaker A:Click on instruction.
Speaker A:And there is Mr. Furman himself.
Speaker A:You can book a lesson or do a clinic with him, or you can even write him a note, and I'm sure he will answer it.
Speaker A:So we're with Charlie today.
Speaker A:And if I was to ask you what was the one biggest thing you think that's happened outside of live golf for the last couple years in golf, what would that be?
Speaker C:I mean, I still think that most watchable thing in golf is Tiger woods doing anything, you know, is he going to play?
Speaker C:Is he not going to play?
Speaker C:When he shows up an event, even if he's not playing, he gets all the eyeballs and, and just, just watching him trying to put it back together and get competitive and show, you know, little glimpses of, of who he was and maybe who he might be again, I, I, that's just the number one thing in golf, all things Tiger woods, you know, and we were talking about the father son in a previous segment, you know, and, and watching Charlie and Tiger, you know, I mean, Tiger's a show in golf, and, and, and there's really not a close second.
Speaker C: there hasn't been for, since: Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:And, and it, it's, you know, he doubles or triples just about everything that, that he does.
Speaker C:And, and it'll continue to be that way as long as he shows up to play an event here and there.
Speaker A:I'm rooting for him.
Speaker A:I hope he can get, I don't know if it's possible with the damage he's got to that after the car wreck.
Speaker A:But I'm rooting for him because I just like to see him play on the regular tour till he's 50 or what, whatever he chooses.
Speaker A:But, but like you said, I'm, I'm guilty of that, too, Charlie.
Speaker A:When I know Tiger's doing something, I'm watching.
Speaker A:That's, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:And, and you know, people will.
Speaker C:I can remember being at Golf Channel, and every now and then I'd make the mistake of checking my phone in the office.
Speaker C:And, you know, it would be, you know, you, You.
Speaker C:You don't show enough of Tiger Woods.
Speaker C:We don't care about these other players.
Speaker C:And then it would be somebody that said, I don't care about Tiger Woods.
Speaker C:Show all the other players.
Speaker C:I'm gonna not watch if you keep showing Tiger.
Speaker C:And I go, yeah, we'll see how that works.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And, you know, you're gonna.
Speaker C:You might say you're not gonna watch, but you're gonna watch Tiger.
Speaker C:I mean, you just are.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And it's.
Speaker C:I can remember for years was the lead analyst for radio for.
Speaker C:For the Masters.
Speaker C:And Tiger coming back after the fire hydrant, my broadcast position was right behind 18 green, which is really close to one T. And just, you know, the whole world stopped and watched Tiger, you know, his first T ball post fire hydrant, you know.
Speaker C:Yeah, it was just, just, just.
Speaker C:Just amazing.
Speaker C:Then I was there on the call when, you know, when, when.
Speaker C:When he won a couple years later with Mike Tirico was a host and.
Speaker C:And, you know, right in front of me.
Speaker C:Tiger woods is one of the most unprobable major championship maybe ever won.
Speaker C:You know, it's just.
Speaker C:It's just drama about him all the time at all times.
Speaker A:We'll be back next week with another edition of Girling at the Green.
Speaker A:I'm gonna get.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:I. I've got a partner in my barbecue show now, Leanne Whippen, who's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker A:She lives down in Florida.
Speaker A:Maybe we'll all meet at your house and.
Speaker A:And do a cooking show there one day.
Speaker A:How's that?
Speaker C:Game on.
Speaker C:As long as we can do some eating afterwards, I'm in.
Speaker A:Oh, it'll bring a shirt.
Speaker A:That's the only thing I can say.
Speaker A:Bring a clean shirt.
Speaker A:Thanks for being with us today.
Speaker A:And remember, go out there, play some golf, and be kind.
Speaker A:Take care, everybody.
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