The Mikes are headed to Hollow Earth, to help Kong and Godzilla defeat an evil whip carrying ape...and also give Kong a root canal.

That's right! Mike Field and Mike Butler are discussing the newly released "Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire"

The Mikes will discuss their love of Monster on Monster action, the lack of Godzilla, the surprisingly likeable "Diddy" Kong, and Dan Stevens hamming it up in the best way.

Special thanks to our newest Patron at the Executive Producer tier, JD_Advanced! Welcome to the FC Community!

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We don't have a now showing, I just. Oh,

you just see that?

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But we don't have now showing.

We we don't do a now showing.

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We don't do a thing.

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We just do. Hi. Oh my God, man.

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Hi, I'm Mike Butler

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and I'm Mike Field, this is ridiculous.

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And you're watching forgotten cinema

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now showing where we're talking

Godzilla x Kong.

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Is that really is that really the.

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You have to say it's the X is the X silent

and why wouldn't it be.

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And Kong because the lost versus Kong,

then it would have an ampersand

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or a plus sign.

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I don't know, as an X-Men and

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I know X can't give it to you.

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Oh yeah, DMX reference so

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I mean, this should really just be called

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Kong The New Empire

for how little Godzilla is really in it.

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Whoa, whoa. Okay.

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So welcome.

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Yes. Mike and I watched this movie

last night in Imax.

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I mean, it was loud.

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I don't know if it I it's tough

because I've seen a ton of stuff in Imax,

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so I never really

I maybe I've, I've lost the wow of of Imax

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or the only time I only ever the only time

I ever really remember like oh wow.

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That's awesome.

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Was ghost protocol is Mission Impossible

ghost protocol.

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When the screen goes up as he steps out

onto the side of the building.

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that's the only time

that I really was like,

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all right, Imax,

what about in the beginning? Yes.

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Tron was,

when the city, goes up at the end.

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Yeah. Tron.

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You're talking about Tron legacy.

Tron legacy? Yeah.

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Right. Right.

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When we had the

the Imax guy was going around from,

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theater to theater,

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making sure that everyone's speakers

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didn't blow up

because they were blowing up around.

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Yeah.

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for those who don't know, we we've we

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I don't we keep mentioning this,

but we Mike and I worked actually,

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we worked at the theater that we went to,

for quite some time, much longer than MC

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and, we kind of have, inside knowledge

of, like, you know, the stuff

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behind the scenes in terms of the Imax

and the theaters and stuff like that.

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So every once in a while,

something kind of sparks

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our memory about, like, you know, the,

the stupid stuff that we had to deal with

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working at a movie theater and running

a movie theater sparks out PTSD.

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okay,

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so, we are definitely both Godzilla fans.

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I know that,

we just to give you a little background,

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not just Godzilla fans

in terms of the new stuff.

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but the old stuff.

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I'm talking smog monster Godzilla.

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I'm talking like, that kind of stuff.

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So, like, I grew up

watching all that stuff on Pix11,

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even, like Mighty Joe Young

and all that stuff.

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So, the King Kong with Godzilla stuff.

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I love those monsters.

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I know Mike is the same.

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Not maybe not.

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We're ten years apart,

so ten, 13 years apart. So.

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But, Mike,

you kind of still grew up on that stuff.

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Oh, yeah. Great. Yeah. Yeah.

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11 like watching Godzilla 1985.

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oh, yeah.

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Like that change changed my life, man.

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But then all like the Sci-Fi channel

marathon and stuff.

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If there was ever a marathon,

I always had my parents record it.

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We don't have this one, this one

and this one.

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So I had them record over a series

of time, like every night telefilm.

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I was obsessed with Godzilla as a kid.

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and so my,

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my comment all the time when those movies,

all those movies, these those ones,

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the one that was in 19,

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Yeah. 98.

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Because.

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Yeah, because I can't I always,

I always think 96 for some reason,

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the one with Matthew Broderick

and then, even these new ones,

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or the only thing I always say

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when people are like,

oh, are you going to see Godzilla?

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Go see this movie? Why?

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And I'm like, I just want to see

monsters fight, that's all.

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I don't care about the people.

I don't calm down.

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You know, the the the kind of,

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epiphanies they have

when they watch these two giant creatures.

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I mean, I think it is pretty cool in,

which one was.

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Which one was where he goes.

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Let them fight. Like, that's that.

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That part was that the first one?

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That was the first.

That was the first one.

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Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

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I do like that.

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But other than that, I don't care about

the humans in, in these type of films.

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I just want to see monsters fight.

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And in this movie, that's what we get.

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We just get monsters fighting.

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We just get nonstop.

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And while it is at the we can get into it.

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It is at the, detriment to the

plot, which is non-existent.

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Okay,

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I was all right with that. Absolutely.

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so, I mean,

I know we kind of bounce around

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kind of like what's good, what's bad,

what we like, what we didn't like.

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let's, let's let's definitely start off

with, let's start off with what

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you liked.

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I obviously,

I kind of started off on something about

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I like, well, what's something

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I know you like the monsters fighting,

but other than that, what else?

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What else is something you liked in here?

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I actually, as dumb

as I thought he was going to be.

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I liked Diddy Kong.

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I liked that little monkey guy.

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I don't think that's his name,

but yes, I don't know his name, I don't,

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I don't bother.

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Look it up. He's going to be Diddy

Kong through the rest of this episode.

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You like Diddy Kong

being used as a weapon?

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Lenny Palmer I loved that.

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I do love how like it wasn't

like an instant love story between Kong

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and this little baby.

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Baby monkey. Like,

he starts biting his fingers.

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He's fighting.

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But yeah, when he uses the kid as a

as a club, I was all about it.

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I thought that was awesome.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was good.

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I was actually, surprising highlight.

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I really thought he was going

to ruin the movie for me.

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So you liked

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his general arc, his story

arc of obviously,

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you know, not trusting Kong and

and then and then obviously

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Kong kind of takes him under his wing

even though he doesn't want to.

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And then like his whole storyline

where I guess that was his mother

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or father,

that the scar King kicked into the.

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Yeah, yeah. They didn't.

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I mean, I guess that's

what you kind of have to infer.

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and then

and then obviously he sighs. Okay.

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So you enjoyed all of that.

You thought that all played well for you?

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I, I do, I do it's silly.

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It was silly obviously, but

I think it played well and it wasn't ever.

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There wasn't too much of him to make

it make me annoyed that he was there.

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I think there was just to

have him service.

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The story.

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Okay.

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Anything.

What else? What else did you like?

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I'll give you one because you went on.

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I'll give you one.

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I after I just after

I just said I don't care about the people.

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I actually thought

Dan Stevens was awesome in this film.

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And not just that he was really good,

but his role, like, it's a great

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it's a great role to have

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that's like it because he's he's

you know, he's a little off center.

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He can bring like you know the comedy.

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and he's got and it's just and he's

definitely a full fleshed character.

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But still

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there are many actors that get great roles

and they don't really bring a lot to it.

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So I think, you know what I mean.

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Like, so I think that it's almost like

it's almost like Sam Rockwell

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when he's in a he's in a role.

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It's like it's his he's got that charm of

oh yeah, absolutely.

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I think Dan Stevens does the same thing

here.

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And I like Dan Stevens.

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as an actor,

I haven't seen everything. He's.

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And I don't know if you've ever seen

the Will Ferrell Rachel McAdams,

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Netflix film where they're doing the,

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the doing the song big song competition,

the European, the Euro.

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Oh, no, I haven't seen that. Is he in the.

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Have you. Yes.

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You should see it

because Dan Stevens plays the Russian.

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and and entrant in that

and like the singer

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so like that that's actually the,

the movie's pretty good.

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You really should say

you and Elise were both like that.

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but he's really good.

That's so. I liked the in Stevens.

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I thought he had a really good role here.

I thought he really nailed it.

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I like you're knocked out of the park.

Probably the.

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I mean, other than,

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I'm trying to think of the actor's name.

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I'm blanking on the name.

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I mean, David

Strathairn was good in the series.

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I'm thinking about

the whole series of movies.

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All right.

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Yeah, he.

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I liked his characters

decent in this film.

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Who's who's the who's the Asian actor

who's in Tokyo vice?

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Who's the Asian actor he plays? Yes.

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That's it.

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It I like to I like him

in this whole set of 4 or 5 films.

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but I think Dan Stevens is probably

my favorite

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so far within these new set of Godzilla

and monster universe and Kong.

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And I've yet to see the show on Apple,

which I probably will soon.

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but yeah, I like Dan in this.

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excuse me, Mr. Stevens.

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No, I think Dan Stevens is really good.

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I actually think, you know, everyone's

talking about, like,

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different contenders for bond and stuff,

but I think he'd be a decent contender.

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He was really good in the,

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there's a horror thriller movie

where he's kind of a guest.

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Yes. The guest, he's

very good in The guest.

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So between him playing like this goofy guy

in Kong and playing

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that kind of hitman type character,

I think he like,

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he could probably play a decent

James Bond.

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He's also very good in Downton Abbey.

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I'm just gonna throw that out.

That's where he kind of came from.

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Yeah. Matthew. Yeah, that's right.

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I watch Downton Abbey.

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I don't care.

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But yeah.

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So give me something else you liked.

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I mean, it's a spoiler, but obviously

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if you're watching this, obviously

we always give spoilers.

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I like the surprise appearance of Mothra.

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I know it kind of breaks the story,

but I haven't watched King of the monsters

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in a while.

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Although that's still my favorite.

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I think of the, these movies,

so I don't really remember exactly how

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story breaking it is that Mothra is there,

although there are more Mothra part.

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Oh, I think they do mention that.

I'll tell you, I'll tell you.

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I know you just watched it on on TNT or.

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Well, so

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so for those who don't know and for those

who do know, it's a really refresh

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of the Mothra lore is that there's always

those two, Japanese women.

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What is this?

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What is going on here? Close. Oh, yeah.

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It's two.

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The twins. Japanese. They always.

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They they, like, can talk with Mothra,

and they help Mothra get through.

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Get through things,

I guess. And just kind of like that.

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I don't wanna say control Mothra,

but they basically can, can,

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can communicate with Mothra.

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And they're the keeper of of Mothra and

all that stuff and everything around her.

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And that the whole family thing.

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No, that's in the original Godzilla.

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All the original lore in Godzilla.

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King of the monsters.

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When they're on the ship, they have

there's a conversation that's being had

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with, a Japanese actress, and she's

talking about how, oh, you know, Mothra.

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She she's the one that talks about Mothra

when they're not really sure about her.

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And then she talks about, oh,

and she has photos at her station,

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and it's her and her family,

and they she's like, oh,

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my family before me,

my mother before me, my grandmother.

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We, you know,

we we've we know a lot about Mothra.

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So they kind of allude to that same lore

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in this set of movies.

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So to have now that the iwi tribe that

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this whole prophecy that someone from the

iwi tribe is, is, you know, is

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the person that would awaken Mothra again

and bring her back and blah, blah, blah.

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It's like, well, that

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I understand if you want to move away

from the Lord from a different set of,

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you know, Godzilla series,

but this is in your own series of films.

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So now you're kind of just backtracking

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now, and it's I, I have to

I have to kind of like that.

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There has to be held accountable.

You can't. You're changing.

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It's like you're changing things

that you set up already.

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So that's all. That's the only thing now.

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Yes it's cool them

author came back and it's great. Awesome.

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But it just it kind of as soon as it came

up I'm like wait a minute.

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That's not what they said.

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And then it turned to you

and you told me to shut up. So, you know,

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well,

I think I mentioned that there can be

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multiple more threads, which

I think they do say in that one as well.

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You know, Mothra comes back, dies

and new pod is there.

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It's not like, I guess Godzilla

and all the other Titans where it's.

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Well,

I guess Kong also comes from a family

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where a lot of the other titans

seem to have always existed.

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So are we saying that Mothra

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is a sentient creature,

that that shares their experiences

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and their memories in their life

between the different versions of Mothra?

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Like is the multiple that we saw

in this movie.

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The city knows what happened

two movies ago.

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Well, I don't want to get nerdy here, but

it's thought that insects share genetic

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genetic memory, so it won't remember

what happened to the Mothra when it died.

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But it would remember whatever happened

to whatever Mothra before it.

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Later. Eggs.

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Okay, well, you can't get nerdy like,

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when you're already nerdy,

so you're already there.

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We're already

talking about Godzilla. Kong.

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Sorry to get what?

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Etymology. Just on your word.

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Well, well, give me something else then.

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Not that we're going negative,

but just give you something else.

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That kind of you.

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Who you just kind of like, Okay.

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You know, I mean, I,

we generally like this film, but we are.

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And so the things that we're talking

about, I think we're going to pass,

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I think give us something else

that you give a pass.

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The, the bad guy isn't strong enough.

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I don't think if we're going a little

negative, I think that the scar King a

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he needs the big ice monster, which,

listen, anger.

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Which really pissed me off.

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Like, come on, he looks exactly like him.

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Well, let's just just call him.

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Anger is get the rights

to the other monsters.

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Let's go.

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I was like a

I thought that was like a female Godzilla.

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I thought that's

what were they were going for.

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Yeah. It's like I,

I thought that they were gone for.

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But like, you need that.

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You need the lizard.

And it's easily beaten by Godzilla.

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Like the whole like Godzilla is charging

up. It's World War three.

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This seemed like the least difficult fight

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that they've had to fight in

any of the movies like this.

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This fight just at the at the end fight,

when they send, it's like.

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And that run had a scar.

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King didn't have a chance.

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As soon as Godzilla got into a thing

like King Kong, almost.

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Kong almost beat the Scar King

once at the beginning, right?

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It's like once Godzilla got in there,

I felt like there was.

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I mean, obviously they're going to win.

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It's it's a Godzilla Kong movie.

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But just like there's no stakes,

there was no point in which I was like,

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oh, he's really got them on the ropes.

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No, Godzilla's absorbed

like 80 billion nuclear bombs.

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He's he's ready to go.

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Yeah, but I think that goes to

my point of just fight.

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Let's just have monster fights.

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Yeah, and you know what I mean?

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I just think they need a stronger than

Louie from, The Jungle Book.

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As soon as he appeared on the throne,

all I could think of.

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I want to be like you.

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What kind of, ape is he supposed to be?

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I have no, it

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he looks like a, emaciated orangutan

because he's got a super long arms.

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But I don't know if he's actually supposed

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to be, like,

all of Kong's people are obviously some.

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Some, Well, some of them weren't.

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Some of them were.

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So like,

some of them more and more like scar.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Of the, of the of the Titans that were.

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I guess they're all considered Titans

in that little bit, which, you know,

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some of them were like, cut look like Kong

and some of them didn't.

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Some of them were just kind of like

like almost like like a gross.

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They almost they were,

you know what they reminded me of?

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They reminded me of the hybrid human,

alien and alien resurrection and.

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Oh, yeah, quite a little bit. Yeah.

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Just just in the facial facial area.

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So. Yeah.

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And speaking while we're on that subject,

can you explain to me what exactly

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they're doing in that pit?

Moving boulders and rocks?

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What are they doing?

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I thought at first

I thought they were clearing the space.

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We said that Godzilla collapsed the rocks

all over the Scar King to keep them

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trapped in the volcano. Whatever.

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So we couldn't

get up to the real world. But

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they're just, like, out around nowhere.

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They're in the movie.

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No where they can go out into the forest

like there's portals.

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There's other portals.

Kong knows about a portal.

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Yeah, definitely a thousand years.

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And you haven't found anything.

Come on. And.

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And when they wanted to leave,

he just left.

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He hopped on the ice thing, and they. Why?

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They climbed out?

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Yeah, that was my other thing too.

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Is, how hollow is Earth?

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So it's got multiple levels.

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It's so big that we now

we have a subterranean hollow area

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that we've never taught, we've never

experienced, and it's just as huge.

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And I'm just. And when they were fighting.

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When they were chasing,

when Kong first fight scar came.

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Which every time I say the name, I think

Lion King every time.

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So anytime they were fighting

and he when they fought and he escapes

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and they chase him,

I have difficulty figuring out that, okay,

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they just left the subterranean level

because he's trying to set them up.

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He's trying to get them trapped

in that little section,

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because that's when Diddy Kong comes in

and rips the rope.

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And they those people, those three I, I

didn't I was like, okay, so the he's out.

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He climbed out of that region like that's

what I that's what I understood

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to even get to the region.

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All he did was jump down

from his cave and walk forward.

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It wasn't really like

they call it the subterranean region,

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but at no point did

I feel like he was going that much down.

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He was just kind of

going a little further than he was.

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I think it was just confused

about the geography of everything.

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they don't show

how he gets into the cave.

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He just all of a

sudden is in the King's cave.

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And then.

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And then that same issue I had with the

geography was when they get into the iwi.

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Oh, sanctuary area.

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And now all of a sudden, they're just

all there, and they just all showed up.

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And I don't understand what's happening.

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And then there's giant crystals and,

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that whole, that whole stuff was just

I mean, at that point, I didn't care.

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They were fighting.

The monsters were going at it.

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I was fine with that.

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I mean, I joked with you

when we were talking about,

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when we saw the trailer,

and I always just laugh

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when they show the shot of them

running and just.

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But but in the movie,

I'm just like, yeah, right.

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It works like,

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I mean,

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you've already watched

Godzilla suplex Kong.

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Oh, that was that was awesome.

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That was awesome.

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The fact that that he did

a wrestling move was fantastic.

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I mean, that's exactly I loved that.

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I was like, oh yeah.

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but yeah, it's

just it's you're watching it.

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And at the same time you're like,

oh my God, this is so dumb.

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But then you're like, I love it,

I don't care.

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Like it's just absolutely who cares?

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Like, that's I,

I almost think like the director,

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he maybe he heard me telepathically.

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Adam Wingard he was like,

this is maybe he just.

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Maybe he feels the same way. I do.

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This is what people this is what I want.

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This is what I want to do.

I just want to have them fight.

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he directed the last one

and which he directed the guest as well.

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I believe. I'd have to double check that.

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but it pretty sure he's an easy producer.

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He directed it.

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and,

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so that and we just talked about that, so,

I mean, and, he's proven right,

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but because I'm looking at the numbers

right now and as of yesterday

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and it did open internationally

at the same time it opened here, it's me.

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It budget was 135 million.

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It's already made 200 million.

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Yeah.

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So it's gonna make sorry Ghostbusters now.

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I mean, listen, they didn't stand a chance

against Godzilla.

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They should. Monster.

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The monster universe monsters.

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And Godzilla and King Kong are an innocent

actor, just like James Bond.

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They do. Well, everywhere.

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I look at a look at Godzilla minus one.

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Yeah, we haven't seen that yet.

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And we haven't seen that yet.

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Still doesn't come out even in Japan.

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It doesn't come out

till May. Like this thing.

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Come on.

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I'm surprised it's not back in theaters.

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Like I didn't just come back out again.

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Maybe it's too confusing

because the because this is out.

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But I mean, they're gonna

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they're gonna make another one.

I don't know what the heck

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they're going to do,

but they're gonna make another one.

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I mean, it doesn't make sense

not to bring back Mecha Ghidra.

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Oh, I don't know about.

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I mean, I always want to see Smog Monster

again, but, I mean, what's funny,

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though, you could do spot monster

because pollution is still a big deal.

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And you could. That could be your thing.

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It's always gonna it's

always going to be a big deal.

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but the thing with that, though,

is, and I want to get into

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the other monsters in this one.

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But the thing with the smog monsters,

that's always

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the one that scared me the most as a kid,

because the way it killed people

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and rising up.

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But I still

it was always the one I think about.

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I know it's got a different name.

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I'm what I always call it

smog Monster. It's called something else.

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right.

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Pedro Hedra I can't, I never know,

I think, I think, hedra.

459

Yeah. Or something similar.

460

I want, I want to ask you this because

I don't know as much as I love Godzilla.

461

I never really just read up

on a lot of the stuff.

462

I just love watching the movies.

463

And I love watching the monster

fights. So I don't know,

464

other than Rodan and all the

465

kind of like the the mainstays Mothra

and stuff like that that you always see,

466

the ones that they were talking about

in this movie

467

that they showed the crab one,

the one that he goes that attacks

468

the Godzilla, goes to get his radiation

from, those they just made up.

469

Like,

is that something that's in this world?

470

Only they just they just made those up.

471

I mean, the lizard,

the the eel that he kills.

472

Tiamat is, I think, an actual kind of

I don't know what mythology,

473

but it's actually one

mythological monster,

474

because Tiamat is also

475

a big monster and similar looking in

some of the Final Fantasy games.

476

So I think that might be shocking

for Chinese mythology.

477

That's not the Jap.

478

That's not the dragon from, Shang-Chi

and the legend of the ten Rings.

479

It might be the same.

They might have a name.

480

It looks in. Yeah. Okay.

481

Maybe I know the name TMI is,

I think, part of mythology somewhere.

482

Okay,

so it's not so much in you're saying it.

483

It exists and other lore,

but not old Godzilla.

484

It's.

Yeah, it's not one of the Godzilla kaiju.

485

yeah, I can't remember.

486

I think his specific

487

rogue's

488

gallery has a specific name of of monster,

but I can't remember what they call him.

489

Cool.

490

But yeah, I like

I thought when you were talking about

491

how they didn't

have the rights to anybody, I was.

492

I thought you were serious. Like you knew,

because that's what it seems like.

493

They only, you know,

I and Godzilla, I, I read that that

494

that this not,

I think when King of the monsters came out

495

that they only were allowed

to use certain certain creatures

496

for some reason,

whatever it is, and rights.

497

Yeah.

498

So the I,

499

I think I don't think they have

every single monster that's ever appeared.

500

That's why that's why, I said that so.

501

Oh, you know what they could do.

502

But what was the

what was the old Godzilla one

503

where it was the dude

and he controlled the big giant robot.

504

Oh, Ultraman,

505

I got Ultraman in there.

506

Maybe, I don't know.

507

I mean, what else can we do here? Like,

who else is he going to fight?

508

He's going to fight

another subterranean level in their space.

509

Godzilla.

510

I mean, at this point,

you're already getting real busy,

511

so you might as well,

Mechagodzilla keeps on coming back.

512

I actually wasn't a huge fan

of Mechagodzilla in the last one.

513

I thought it was kind of too clunky

that they didn't use him enough, though.

514

He just. He appears

and he does. That's it. It's one fight.

515

And he was the reason

to bring earlier on Kong together.

516

Yeah, yeah. But maybe you get it.

517

I agreed I could Godzilla,

who's a little more advanced.

518

Idra there's a, there's a couple

of other monsters that are really cool.

519

There's a plant monster by Planty.

520

That's pretty neat.

521

And then there was a monster

in the last of, like, the main

522

before Godzilla reboot with Godzilla 2000,

there was like,

523

another monster that, like, was really.

524

It might have actually been violent,

525

but it might have been something else

that kick Godzilla's ass and killed him.

526

Oh, wow.

527

That might be.

528

I didn't even I didn't see that one.

529

Well, he was kind of already dying.

530

That movie was pretty good, where

he's dying of, like, radiation sickness.

531

So he's slowly actually melting down.

532

He just eats, nuclear reactors

in this one.

533

So, I also want to

534

I said this to you there

when we were walking on the theater,

535

because the end of the movie takes place

that Rio de Janeiro.

536

And I said, turn to Butler,

537

and then we go, Rio de Janeiro is no more

like like that place is gone.

538

Yeah, yeah,

like like not only there has to like,

539

I'm not even counting the stuff

540

that happened in France and the stuff

that happened in Italy in this film.

541

But in Rio, just on its own,

there has to be

542

like 2.5 million people

that death, like, just gone.

543

And not only that, he blasts

the entire coast

544

coastline of of Rio.

545

All those hotels like everything.

546

Just like in half the, the,

the ice monster just in half

547

and like, it's just like,

this is this place is done.

548

Like it's just done.

549

And the other the.

550

Could you imagine living in this world

where these titans live,

551

like, exists, like we now like, oh yeah.

552

Like we're,

we're podcasting and titans exist.

553

And could you just admit, like,

just everything which must be ruins.

554

Everything is in ruins.

555

Yeah.

So you got to get your gigantor insurance.

556

It's the only insurance that covers

Titan attacks.

557

I know it's, in the movie.

558

I can't remember his name in the movie.

Bryan.

559

Tyler, let's, What's the actor's name?

560

Brian. Brian.

561

Tyree Henry.

562

his Bernie.

His character's name is Bernie.

563

he's got a podcast,

and he's got he's got a sponsor.

564

But then our joke and like, oh,

he gets sponsor.

565

I really didn't.

566

And he's funny in the movie,

I didn't care.

567

I didn't really need that.

He didn't need to be in the film.

568

But it's fine.

569

I know he's a carryover from the

yeah, he's got some good stuff.

570

He's got some good stuff with Dan Stevens.

571

Yeah, I think their stuff is good.

572

I think that's why it works. Right?

573

I think I was kind of glad

that we kind of moved away from the,

574

Kyle Chandler, Millie Bobby

Brown stuff from the last two.

575

Yeah.

576

I feel like they were wrapping up in this

in this last the last one as well.

577

Yeah.

578

I mean, I just was I didn't care the whole

like the whole her mother's whole.

579

I really liked that in the second console

580

because I liked making the mother

character a bad guy.

581

And she was never like, redeemed.

582

She was the villain.

And that's kind of how it worked.

583

And I thought that was a really cool

plot point.

584

I was just kind of glad

we didn't have to go through that again.

585

Like, I just did what I had to do.

There was nothing else to do.

586

It's kind of like how we talked about

last week with Ghostbusters Afterlife.

587

Like, you've wrapped up those characters,

you can continue the franchise,

588

but now it's time to bring some new blood,

and now it's time to explore

589

new characters

within that world. Right? Right.

590

one like, I mean, we can still keep

going, and I could still can keep talking.

591

But I did want to say

one last thing that I liked.

592

was I actually

593

was cool about the what about the music,

the style of the music.

594

like

when they did some of the montage stuff.

595

I mean, I thought it was it's

it's it's ridiculous how they get the,

596

the, the glove for, Kong is power.

597

Yeah. Oh.

598

And it and it's here and let's go get it.

599

And he and you know, they've,

they've gone into this like secret layer

600

and he's like yeah.

601

No I'm just going to go fly back a little.

Grab it.

602

and like goes gets it.

603

And it's just

604

and of course it's jet powered and off

and it's automated and all that stuff.

605

Like even though that whole area

was destroyed, it's still everything.

606

That thing is functional, that thing.

607

And clearly another ship

because that's not his original ship.

608

No, he only gave a small vehicle.

609

It's so it's so like convenient.

610

Again, I don't care.

611

I like the movie. That scene works

because I like the music.

612

I like the song, I like the

I like it's almost like when,

613

it's almost like when,

Thor Ragnarok came out

614

and they realized

that everyone loved Guardians

615

because of, like, the music

in the Guardians of the Galaxy movies.

616

And they're like, well, let's make

for fun and happy and put music in here.

617

It's almost like it's

a little bit of that. It's a little bit.

618

It doesn't take itself so seriously.

619

This film, which I think,

I think it works.

620

And so I was okay with that.

621

I think it's the only way to go.

622

I read, a comment that someone has said

it's like the shower era, Godzilla films.

623

So, like Smog Monster,

when Godzilla got the big bright Eyes

624

and he was more kid friendly,

625

like, that's what this movie is.

626

If King of the monsters

is more like old school Godzilla,

627

or newer school like 1985 Godzilla,

where he's kind of the bad guy

628

kind of sort of the bad guy.

629

This movie is silly.

630

Godzilla just doing whatever.

631

Like when I got home, all this was like,

how was the movie?

632

I said it was absolutely terrible,

but I loved every second of it.

633

But good. Terrible.

634

Yeah. No, no was terrible

and exactly the way it was.

635

But it's what.

636

But that's what we both want. That's.

637

But we're walking in

638

and I'm like, this better be like a

I want just a good, bad movie.

639

Give me this is like,

this is the you know,

640

this is the definition

of what a B-movie should be.

641

It should be fun.

642

I'm not here for any critical acclaim.

643

I'm here to have fun and enjoy the kit

644

and watch the monster fights

and just laugh at a couple times.

645

And that's what we get,

you know, like it's

646

it's it's a little refreshing

because so it's

647

and it's probably like the last 1520

years, a lot of these movies

648

take themselves way too seriously and,

649

and but to be fair, there are some ways

they take themselves way too seriously.

650

And then there's some movies

that take themselves,

651

are two over the top in terms of jokey

and stuff like that, like Thor.

652

So even Thunder.

653

Yes. Yeah.

654

Where it's just like it's it's

not as it's not fun, it becomes annoying.

655

I think that another movie

that falls into this,

656

even though I do like free Guy

quite a bit free guys,

657

but I think free guys a little bit

better than the free copy, but it's fun.

658

I, I mean,

659

other than Bad Boys three,

I do like bad boys.

660

in Bad Boys two.

661

And I was excited

also that that was really good.

662

No, I'm saying I like it. Yeah.

They're fun.

663

Yeah, that's what I want. It's fun.

664

But like, three was really good.

665

but, I'm excited for for, but, but.

666

Yeah,

so I don't know, I'm just kind of going.

667

I was just I'll start listening movies

that I like, but I don't want to.

668

I don't want to get too down that road.

669

is actually is this your favorite

of the Godzilla versus movies

670

or the first of these ones?

671

Because I still think I like

King of the monsters quite a bit more.

672

I think I like, I'd have to.

You know what?

673

I'd have to watch them again.

I do like King of the monsters.

674

King of monsters has some fun stuff

with, like, the people in the ship.

675

so I think

I think some of that stuff is good.

676

I think the storyline,

677

the mother father family storyline

kind of just drags for me a little bit.

678

So that's kind of like where I get

a little annoyed in that.

679

So like, I kind of like that

and I kind of like the darker

680

kind of tone

while you still get the monster fights.

681

But like after Godzilla versus Kong,

this is the only way you could go.

682

So I also like this fun.

683

There's only two ways you can go.

684

You can go of the monsters

kind of darkness, or you can go this way,

685

but I think both of them work.

686

But I think I kind of lean

more on King of the monsters.

687

We probably we

I mean, we didn't have the time.

688

That's why

we why we didn't do a lead up for this.

689

but maybe the next movie that comes out,

if the next Godzilla film comes out

690

and we're still up and running,

which I'm sure we will,

691

we could do a lead up for that.

692

And then, we could do all these again.

693

But yeah, I probably do want to.

694

I, I don't my son's at the age

where I don't know if he'll

695

get scared watching them,

so I, I'd like to watch them with him,

696

but I don't know

if he'll get too scared with them.

697

So I have to kind of.

698

I have to kind of gauge that.

699

But, that's probably where I'll end up

700

watching them with him again

or something like that.

701

I wanted I want to ask you.

702

Oh, the one when we did the live watch,

703

we did the

704

live watch of the Godzilla 98 to we.

705

Is that is that out?

706

Do we have that or is that was that,

you know, because we just had fun.

707

We had some people watch it on their own

and we talked about it on discord.

708

okay. Wait.

709

Okay. Because we do that again,

maybe we just we can watch people do that.

710

Yeah. Yeah,

totally. Well, we film ourselves.

711

We don't film the movie, obviously,

because then we'll get,

712

But yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah.

713

I feel like if we did that, that'd be,

That might be cool.

714

That might be cool. All right. Sweet.

715

I mean, I think I,

716

I, I mean, I hope anyone watching

this has seen the movie already,

717

and I hope,

you know, if you don't agree, that's cool.

718

If you if you like it. Awesome.

719

I know we're admittedly biased

Godzilla fans.

720

so I think we were kind of

we were hopefully optimistic going in.

721

I don't think we were expecting,

722

you know, I think pretty easily

we would have been like, oh, this stinks.

723

So, so yeah, so

724

I mean, yeah,

I mean, that's all I mean, I don't have.

725

Yeah.

726

You're not going into Godzilla

looking for an Oscar worthy film.

727

Yeah.

728

If you're looking for a really fun time

like this, is this is that.

729

It's shut off

your brain. It's a good line.

730

Oh, no no no, no, shut off your brain.

I hate that, I hate that phrase.

731

Don't shut off your brain.

You should always be.

732

You should always be.

Keep your brain open. Me?

733

It's a it's a

it's about the it's a B-movie.

734

It's a great it's a good update

735

It's a great Sunday night film.

736

This would be a good Sunday night

movie to good Saturday night.

737

Excuse me, Saturday night movie to go to

in the theaters when theaters are hopping.

738

you know, go there and then you go out

to eat after, like, stuff like that.

739

It's a good one

to watch at home on a Saturday night.

740

Like hanging out with the family like it's

it's one of those type of films,

741

you know, and there's and I think maybe

because why we react this way to

742

it is they're so very little

of those that, you know, it's, it's

743

nice to see one, you know, so because

744

because there's a reason why I'm always

rewatching stuff from the 80s and the 90s.

745

Because because, you know, like,

you know, the older films.

746

Because.

747

Right, I don't sometimes, you know,

getting that fix, around here right now.

748

but you know.

749

Yeah. So, Mike,

why don't you tell everybody?

750

Because these are not going to be free

for free.

751

But these are not going to be for

752

are now showings are not going to be

for the general audience.

753

So why don't you explain that a little bit

before we get out of here.

754

So our live streams were always supposed

to be meant for the Patreon

755

tiers only, some of the Patreon tiers.

756

So we've we've been doing them

kind of for everybody right now.

757

so if you're watching this

758

the next day when it comes out, when it's

no longer live, but I'm going to say this

759

anyway, you can watch them live up until

I think we've decided mad Max Furiosa.

760

So the end of May.

761

And after that,

they're going to be just go back,

762

go to where they're supposed to be Patreon

only we're letting you guys

763

kind of test the waters

if you like our live streams.

764

so if you want to kick us on that story

there, that's where they're going to be.

765

but we will continue to do now showings.

766

They just won't be live for you,

but they'll be put out, afterward.

767

But if you want to chat with us,

768

watch us live, watch field

yell at me at the beginning of the episode

769

like you did right there.

770

That's going to be on those live streams,

771

that you can watch

if you're a Patreon member, after May.

772

but we

have a lot of content coming up as well.

773

We're doing all the planet of the apes

774

movies going into,

Kingdom of the planet of the apes.

775

I think our next, our showing

is League of Ungentlemanly Warfare.

776

And, so yeah, the.

777

Yep, yep.

778

So the week of May, April 22nd, we we,

we don't watch these on like that opening.

779

We can watch one of the Monday nights

because there's nobody there.

780

We don't like to watch them with people.

781

We're to watching them in empty theaters

exactly after work.

782

So so you'll probably get that.

783

You'll probably

get the live stream on the 23rd.

784

that that, Tuesday.

785

And then we'll Mike's talking about

786

our next lead up

series is the planet of the apes series.

787

The new one. We're going to watch you.

Those three of you.

788

Those will probably start filtering

that week as well.

789

I think these are intimate.

790

Yeah, leading up to the May 10th, life.

791

Oh, well, the May when it opens. May 10th.

792

So, like,

you're thinking like May 13th, it'll

793

you'll have a live stream for us for the,

for the new planet of the apes.

794

But that'll be after our.

795

But the main podcast comes back, right?

796

Our first episode May 1st.

797

for season 17, we're doing real Steel,

so that'll be May 1st

798

at the regular podcast show come out.

799

And obviously we're going to

that's going to be a video too.

800

So it'll be on YouTube as well.

801

and then in turn but you were talking,

but you were talking,

802

you were talking like Patreon stuff.

803

I was talking Patreon.

804

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

805

No. Yeah, I just wanted to, but I was

I think I started getting into content

806

with you. Yeah,

807

but then.

808

But the big one, because I know it's a,

it's probably a big lead up series is in

809

the summer when we do the alien franchises

before, up until alien, forgetting it.

810

Romulus, Romulus. Yep.

811

And that'll be all. Patreon.

812

All the lead ups will be Patreon.

813

And that'll be.

814

And we'll be right for everybody.

815

Prometheus and of Everest. Predator.

816

So we're going to be doing a the,

but it's like those are like 7 or 8 films.

817

Yeah. It's like two months of,

two months of leads.

818

Yeah. That's, I mean, it's it's exciting.

819

It's exciting to kind of go back.

I mean, I always they're on, I watch them.

820

I mean, I like to watch them.

821

One thing

822

that's the thing that I like

about the lead ups

823

is we do forgotten cinema and forgotten

films. That's cool.

824

But like, Talk About Aliens is like,

I know we said that's not what we wanted,

825

but it's also pretty.

826

It's kind of fun to, like you said,

go back and talk about stuff, and I do I

827

for the lead up for early.

828

I want to do

the extended edition of aliens.

829

Oh, actually, the longer one. Yeah.

830

If I want the turret scene in there,

the turret scenes.

831

Yes, yes.

832

Right.

833

You see the book counting down?

834

I just see the aliens screaming.

835

That's that's awesome.

836

And for those who are not Patreon members,

you can go to Patreon.com,

837

backslash, Forgotten Cinema,

and you can see all the tiers there.

838

And you can sign up, for whoever

you want to want to do.

839

And, you know,

even though we're just talking about

840

lead up series and we're talking about,

you know, the, the, the live streams

841

that I go there,

then I'm going to go there.

842

I think sometime the next two months

are going to go behind those, those tiers.

843

There are other stuff

that we're going to do. There's other.

844

Mike and I are always kicking ideas around

about doing different things.

845

you know, so we're we're we're

the content is going to keep going.

846

The continent's going to keep growing.

847

And, it's going to be

all movie based, right? Mike?

848

All movie based.

849

Exactly.

850

Except for our baking show,

which is going to be forgotten. Bake.

851

And whether, I cannot bake,

I will not pick.

852

And that's not happening.

853

So just evenly spaced and then I'll cheat

and say, look what I'm,

854

But also we have our merch store as well

that's going to open

855

probably by the end of this week.

I've been working on it.

856

So, if you're a Patreon member,

depending on what tier you are,

857

you get tier based coupons every season

and we're going to have seasonal merch.

858

We're going to have I'm going

859

to rerelease the forgotten horror merch

from last season.

860

so just put that out there

until the new season starts

861

and we're going to have kind of limited

runs on stuff

862

that's kind of themed toward

the season we're in.

863

So that's that's kind of cool

and I'm sure filled and I'll be rocking

864

forgotten cinema branded mugs

when we get back in the studio.

865

Ooh, that's

which is is behind me in the dark,

866

which the electrical has just put in the

this morning Butler.

867

And then the floor

is being put in tomorrow

868

ever so closer

869

to kind of getting all this stuff

back on the wall.

870

Some posters that we have

that need to go on there,

871

some new stuff that needs to go on there.

872

so led some LED lights that hopefully

I gotta get to put in there.

873

So we're kind of like sprucing

all that up. It's going to be nice. So.

874

And this well, I mean a lot of the stuff

that we do in terms of like the lead up,

875

the stuff that's easy to do,

like a night like this, right?

876

We'll be like, we'll still be like me

from my house, butler from his house.

877

But when we start doing the main show,

we start doing that.

878

We'll try to do more stuff.

879

We're actually in that studio together,

and it'll be a little bit more

880

free will and yelling at each other.

881

Point

fingers, you know, all that good stuff.

882

and you could find us here on TikTok.

We've got cinema.

883

We are on Instagram.

884

forgotten cinema, possibly forgotten

underscore cinema, underscore pod.

885

We're on Facebook.

886

Forgotten cinema.

887

We have a we have a group on Facebook

called, the lobby,

888

that you can join that we kind of,

you know, talk.

889

And yes, as Butler says,

I do want to say this.

890

Don't forget to like and subscribe.

891

But we have had to kind of,

I've had to kind of get the forgotten

892

cinema Apple Show from Apple Podcast

893

to be attached to my, Apple ID,

which is dumb,

894

but I think we're going

to lose the ratings and reviews there.

895

So if you've rated

896

and review our show before and you notice

that there's there's none of the new one,

897

go, please

go back in there and rate and review.

898

If you could, that'd be awesome.

899

obviously subscribe follow us on Spotify.

900

We're everywhere.

We're all over the place.

901

I think Mike and I have talked about this

constantly that we started out

902

as a podcast in 2019,

903

We kind of like butts around a little bit.

904

And then when we

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when we were coming back for this,

I think one of the things that Mike

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and I both agreed upon

and we've talked about a lot,

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is that we're not just coming back as

a podcast, we're coming back as a brand.

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We have forgotten cinema.

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You know, that's so everything

we do is going to be focused around that.

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And, we're pretty excited about it.

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as you can tell.

I mean, we love talking film.

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We just we just kind of,

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you know, cheesed out over Godzilla

for about half hour or so.

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you know, so thanks for watching.

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Thanks for.

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I'm Mike,

I don't know if you have anything else

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you want to add here,

because I'm about to wrap it up.

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don't forget,

if you're a Patreon member,

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we have our discord as well,

so that you can always talk movies.

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We got a it's also about a it's not just a

brand, it's a community as well. So.

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Oh, okay.

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All right,

everyone, thank you for watching.

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I'm Mike field, I'm Mike Butler,

and this has been forgotten

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cinema now

showing Godzilla and Kong Butler.

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What is it?

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The empire,

the final empire, the forgotten empire.

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Your empire, the new empire.

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Sorry, I just

I just think it's all in Kong.

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And I don't care what the subtitle is.

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Take care, guys, take care.