Shownotes
In this episode of SOVEREIGN Magazine® Podcast, host Nicole George welcomes Cassandra Ares back to discuss the September New Moon issue and Cass’s article “The Magic of Leadership in the In-Between.”
Cass shares being laid off twice, including a late 2024 layoff followed by eight months of unemployment, 700+ job applications, 40+ interviews, and the challenge of leading herself while supporting her family. They explore how the “in-between” or “goo phase” can be a space for surrender, presence, and aligned decision-making rather than control or desperation, including noticing how support and “just enough” resources appeared.
Cass describes receiving a role that felt like soul recognition, redefining abundance beyond money, and choosing joy and family time through new traditions. She closes with a guided practice on holding steady in uncertainty by naming what’s uncertain, choosing what to hold today, releasing what isn’t yours to control, and taking the next honest step.
Timestamps:
01:06 Meet Cassandra Ares
02:10 Magic in the In Between
05:27 Unemployment Lessons
08:47 Trust and Provision
10:50 The Job Offer Shift
12:27 Redefining Abundance
14:07 Joyful Traditions
16:38 Holding Steady Practice
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Producer’s credits:
- Nicole George - Podcast Host | CEO/Founder SOVEREIGN Magazine® | Editor-in-Chief
- Ariane Lim - Podcast Producer + Engineer
- Sara Wagle - Audio Efficiency & Flow Manager
- Marielle Setenta - Enterprise Assistant
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