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Why Audio Quality is More Important Than You Think
Episode 116th September 2024 • Be a Better Podcaster with Jamie and Jaayne • Jamie and Jaayne
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Hi everyone! In this inaugural episode, we explore the critical role of audio quality in podcast engagement and listener satisfaction. We examine a recent Twitter poll which revealed that over half of the 305 respondents consider poor audio quality the primary reason for abandoning a podcast.

Listener grievances include subpar audio, the perception of amateurism, the annoyance of excessive sound effects, and the frustration with easily avoidable technical issues.

We also talk about:

  • The impact of audio quality on the listener experience
  • Common audio pitfalls that plague podcasts and alienate audiences
  • Simple yet effective strategies to elevate audio quality, regardless of budget

Listen now to discover how prioritizing audio quality can be a game-changer for your podcasting journey!

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Speaker:

Jaayne: Okay, so have you ever like stumbled on a podcast and the topic is totally up

Speaker:

Jaayne: your alley, you know, and you're like, yes, this is what I've been waiting for in there, right?

Speaker:

Jaayne: But then you hit play and the audio, oh, it's just the worst,

Speaker:

Jaayne: like nails on a chalkboard makes you want to chuck your phone across the room.

Speaker:

Jamie: Instant turn off the worst.

Speaker:

Jaayne: And it turns out I'm not alone. We're doing a deep dive today on why good audio

Speaker:

Jaayne: is so crucial for podcasts. It's like even if the content is gold,

Speaker:

Jaayne: bad audio can completely tank it. It's true.

Speaker:

Jaayne: We've got some interesting data to pick apart today. We ran a poll on Twitter,

Speaker:

Jaayne: asked listeners what their biggest podcast pet peeves were.

Speaker:

Jaayne: And we also found this article from a podcasting expert really dug into the

Speaker:

Jaayne: psychology behind why bad audio is so off-putting.

Speaker:

Jamie: This is going to be good. I'm ready to break it down.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Let's do it. So first up, those poll results. We asked listeners what would

Speaker:

Jaayne: actually make them stop listening to a podcast they were otherwise enjoying.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Bad audio, too many inside jokes.

Speaker:

Jamie: Which, let's be honest, can be a slippery slope.

Speaker:

Jaayne: The worst. Or hosts going totally off topic or just like something else entirely.

Speaker:

Jaayne: So what do you think took the top spot?

Speaker:

Jamie: I think we both know where this is going. Had to be the bad audio.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Ding, ding, ding. You got it. A whopping 54% of our listeners said they'd peace

Speaker:

Jaayne: out of a podcast if the audio quality was rough.

Speaker:

Jamie: That's a majority for sure.

Speaker:

Jaayne: It's a landslide. Way more than I expected. It beat out all the other options combined.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Wow. It really goes to show how much even the smallest details matter when you're

Speaker:

Jaayne: creating content, right?

Speaker:

Jamie: It's huge. Yeah. Because it feeds into this whole debate in the podcasting world,

Speaker:

Jamie: right? You've got that raw authenticity on the one hand.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Turn it real.

Speaker:

Jamie: Exactly. Versus that super polished produced sound.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Right. Finding that balance is key.

Speaker:

Jamie: It is. Because listeners want to feel like they're part of the conversation.

Speaker:

Jamie: You know, they want that genuine connection.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Absolutely. But not if it sounds like you're recording from inside a washing machine. Huh.

Speaker:

Jamie: For real. Nobody wants to suffer through that to get to the good stuff.

Speaker:

Jaayne: So how do we find that sweet spot where it feels real and engaging,

Speaker:

Jaayne: but doesn't make people reach for the earplugs?

Speaker:

Jamie: That's what we're here to figure out. And don't worry, this isn't about needing

Speaker:

Jamie: some crazy expensive studio setup.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Because mine is, let's just say it's a work in progress.

Speaker:

Jamie: It's the thought that counts. But honestly, a little effort goes a long way.

Speaker:

Jaayne: I like the sound of that.

Speaker:

Jamie: We're going to give you some super actionable tips today that anyone can use.

Speaker:

Jamie: But first, I think it's important to understand why bad audio is so jarring for us on a deeper level.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Yeah, and you know what? Sometimes just hearing it straight from the source,

Speaker:

Jaayne: like what actual listeners are saying, really drives the point home.

Speaker:

Jamie: Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker:

Jaayne: And in the article we found some of these listener comments were,

Speaker:

Jaayne: Brutal.

Speaker:

Jamie: No holding back.

Speaker:

Jaayne: No. Like one person said, if a podcast sounds like amateur hour,

Speaker:

Jaayne: and I'm quoting here, if everyone's talking over each other and the volume levels

Speaker:

Jaayne: are all messed up, I'm just turning it off.

Speaker:

Jamie: Ouch. Right.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Straight to the point.

Speaker:

Jamie: They're not messing around.

Speaker:

Jaayne: No. It's like they're giving you one chance.

Speaker:

Jamie: One chance.

Speaker:

Jaayne: And if the audio is rough, they're out.

Speaker:

Jamie: Yeah, it's like a barrier to entry, you know? It doesn't matter how good your

Speaker:

Jamie: content might be if people can't even get past those first few seconds.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Totally. If the audio is janky, they're already clicking away before you've even hooked them.

Speaker:

Jamie: Exactly. And it's not just about making a good first impression either, right?

Speaker:

Jamie: There's a lot going on behind the scenes when we listen to something with bad audio.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Okay, so get all science-y on me here. What's the psychology behind it?

Speaker:

Jamie: So think about it. When you're listening to a podcast, you're basically asking

Speaker:

Jamie: your brain to do a ton of work all at once.

Speaker:

Jamie: You've got to process the sounds, decode the language, and try to make sense of it all in real time.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Which is already like a lot of brain power, even with perfect audio. Let's be real.

Speaker:

Jamie: Exactly. It's a workout for those neurons. Yeah. Now imagine trying to do all

Speaker:

Jamie: of that when the audio is full of static, those weird hissy sounds or the volume

Speaker:

Jamie: is like up and down, up and down.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Oh, the worst.

Speaker:

Jamie: It's like trying to have a conversation at a super loud party where everyone's

Speaker:

Jamie: talking over each other.

Speaker:

Jaayne: The worst. My brain is already fried just thinking about it. Right.

Speaker:

Jamie: Your brain literally has to work over time just to try and filter out all that

Speaker:

Jamie: extra noise. Yeah. and actually understand what's being said.

Speaker:

Jaayne: No wonder I feel exhausted after listening to a podcast with crappy audio.

Speaker:

Jaayne: It's a mental workout for sure.

Speaker:

Jamie: It totally is. And that cognitive overload, as it's called, that can lead to

Speaker:

Jamie: something called listener fatigue.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Makes sense.

Speaker:

Jamie: Yeah. Where you're just mentally spent. Totally. You're not going to be able to focus as well.

Speaker:

Jamie: You're probably not understanding everything that's being said.

Speaker:

Jamie: Right. And honestly, you're just way more likely to tune out entirely.

Speaker:

Jaayne: And then there's that emotional piece of it too, right? Like it's not just about

Speaker:

Jaayne: understanding the words. It's about connecting with the content.

Speaker:

Jamie: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And that's where things get really interesting.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Okay. Tell me more. I'm intrigued.

Speaker:

Jamie: So there have been studies on this and they've actually found a direct link

Speaker:

Jamie: between how good or bad the audio quality is and how we emotionally respond

Speaker:

Jamie: to what we're listening to.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Really? So like, even if the content is positive or upbeat, bad audio can actually

Speaker:

Jaayne: make you feel negatively about it?

Speaker:

Jamie: Subconsciously. Yeah. It's kind of like, have you ever judged a book by its cover?

Speaker:

Jaayne: Guilty.

Speaker:

Jamie: We all have. But it's kind of like that for your ears. And on top of all that,

Speaker:

Jamie: there's another layer to this that we can't forget about, and that's accessibility.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Right. Because it's not a one size fits all experience for everyone. Exactly.

Speaker:

Jaayne: So for anyone who has, say, an auditory processing disorder or is hard of hearing

Speaker:

Jaayne: or even just sensitive to sounds, bad audio isn't just annoying. It's a huge barrier.

Speaker:

Jamie: Exactly. And we never want to be excluding any listeners just because it's something

Speaker:

Jamie: we can fix on our end. And, you know, totally.

Speaker:

Jaayne: It's a good reminder that even something we might see as like a minor inconvenience

Speaker:

Jaayne: could actually be a much bigger deal for somebody else.

Speaker:

Jamie: Absolutely. And it all comes back to just being mindful and putting in that

Speaker:

Jamie: little bit of extra effort.

Speaker:

Jaayne: It's true. And honestly, it just makes you appreciate the podcasts that really

Speaker:

Jaayne: nail the audio even more.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Like, you know, they care about putting out a quality product. 100 percent.

Speaker:

Jamie: And the good news is upping your audio game doesn't have to require like a ton

Speaker:

Jamie: of fancy gear or anything.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Okay, because my credit card is a little nervous after that last sound-dampening blanket purchase. Huh.

Speaker:

Jamie: I feel ya. But seriously, a lot of it comes down to some really simple tweaks

Speaker:

Jamie: and knowing a few key things.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Let's get into it. Lay those audio wisdom bombs on us. What are some of the

Speaker:

Jaayne: easiest wins for better audio?

Speaker:

Jamie: So, the podcasting expert we mentioned had a bunch of good advice.

Speaker:

Jamie: First up, your microphone choice.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Okay, now this is where I get lost. is it like condenser versus dynamic help me out here.

Speaker:

Jamie: Don't worry we'll keep it simple you've got the right categories though so dynamic

Speaker:

Jamie: microphones those are like your trusty sidekick we love a good side right they're

Speaker:

Jamie: super durable they're not too picky about where you use them and they're really

Speaker:

Jamie: good at just focusing on your voice even if your recording space isn't exactly a sound booth perfect

Speaker:

Jaayne: For those of us who haven't quite built that backyard studio.

Speaker:

Jamie: Yet exactly condenser mics Mike's, on the other hand, these guys are like the

Speaker:

Jamie: sensitive friend. We all have one. Right.

Speaker:

Jamie: They pick up on everything, which can be awesome for like a super rich detailed sound, but...

Speaker:

Jaayne: But they also pick up on like the dog barking three houses down.

Speaker:

Jamie: You got it. Every little sigh, every car alarm, it's all go in the recording.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Okay, so microphone choice check. But what about the actual recording space itself?

Speaker:

Jaayne: Like, even if you've got a decent

Speaker:

Jaayne: mic, there's always that weird echo or background hum that sneaks in.

Speaker:

Jamie: Ugh, the worst. But you've hit on another super important point,

Speaker:

Jamie: which is treating your space for sound.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Okay, spill the secrets. What are we doing here? Because let me tell you,

Speaker:

Jaayne: my apartment has more echo than a cave right now.

Speaker:

Jamie: More blankets. More pillows.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Hey, I'm ahead of you on that one.

Speaker:

Jamie: You get it. But for real, you can do a lot without spending a fortune.

Speaker:

Jamie: The goal is to reduce those sound reflections that bounce off hard surfaces.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Got it. So like walls, floors, windows, all that jazz.

Speaker:

Jamie: Exactly. And those reflections create that echoey sound that makes your audio sound kind of muddy.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Okay, that makes sense. So what are we doing? Covering everything in pillows like a pillow fort?

Speaker:

Jamie: Close. The blankets, rugs, even like strategically placed bookshelves can help.

Speaker:

Jamie: Basically anything to break up those hard surfaces and absorb some of those sound waves.

Speaker:

Jaayne: It's like interior design for your ears.

Speaker:

Jamie: Right. And you can get creative with it. One of my favorite tips is to use one

Speaker:

Jamie: of those clothing racks, like the freestanding ones, and drape a thick blanket over it.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Like a DIY vocal booth. I love that.

Speaker:

Jamie: It totally works. Okay, so we've got our microphone sorted. Our recording space

Speaker:

Jamie: is looking good. What's the final piece of the audio puzzle?

Speaker:

Jaayne: Hit me with it.

Speaker:

Jamie: Editing, my friend. That's where the magic really happens.

Speaker:

Jaayne: See, now this is where I get intimidated. Editing always feels so technical.

Speaker:

Jamie: I hear you. But it doesn't have to be scary. Think of it as like adding the

Speaker:

Jamie: finishing touches to your masterpiece.

Speaker:

Jamie: And just like with everything else we've talked about, even those little tweaks

Speaker:

Jamie: can make a world of difference.

Speaker:

Jaayne: So where do we even start? art.

Speaker:

Jamie: First things first, trim the fat.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Oh, you're talking about my rambling tangents.

Speaker:

Jamie: Maybe.

Speaker:

Jamie: But seriously, listen back to your raw audio and be ruthless.

Speaker:

Jamie: Cut out any unnecessary stuff, like any dead air, any repetition,

Speaker:

Jamie: those parts where you got totally sidetracked.

Speaker:

Jaayne: So basically channel my inner editor and be brutal.

Speaker:

Jamie: Exactly. Next up, tackle those distracting noises, like any mouth clicks,

Speaker:

Jamie: background hums, traffic sounds, whatever's going to take your listener out of the moment.

Speaker:

Jaayne: I'm so guilty of the mouth clicks.

Speaker:

Jamie: It happens to the best of us. But luckily, most editing software actually has

Speaker:

Jamie: some pretty decent built-in tools for that.

Speaker:

Jamie: Like, noise reduction features can work wonders. Or you can just manually cut

Speaker:

Jamie: out the offending sounds if you need to.

Speaker:

Jaayne: It's like you're a sound surgeon removing all the imperfections.

Speaker:

Jamie: I love that. Okay, and then last but not least, make sure your volume is consistent

Speaker:

Jamie: throughout the whole episode.

Speaker:

Jamie: Like, you don't want people constantly fiddling with their volume knob.

Speaker:

Jamie: Because one host is super loud and the other one sounds like they're whispering

Speaker:

Jamie: from a mile away. Ugh, yes.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Yes. The worst. That drives me crazy as a listener. The worst.

Speaker:

Jamie: But again, easy fix. Most editing software has volume leveling tools that can

Speaker:

Jamie: help even everything out.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Music to my ears. So much easier than trying to yell at my co-host to scoot

Speaker:

Jaayne: closer to the mic. Right.

Speaker:

Jamie: Much less awkward. And honestly, the more you do it, the easier it gets.

Speaker:

Jamie: You start to develop your own little editing style and find those tricks that work for you.

Speaker:

Jaayne: So to wrap it all up, we've learned that if you want to make a killer podcast, podcast.

Speaker:

Jaayne: It's not just about what you say, it's about how you say it.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Picking the right microphone, treating your recording space,

Speaker:

Jaayne: and becoming best friends with your editing software.

Speaker:

Jamie: And most importantly, remember that those little details, they might seem small,

Speaker:

Jamie: but they can have a huge difference for your listeners.

Speaker:

Jaayne: It's like anything else, right? Quality over quantity. So tell us,

Speaker:

Jaayne: what are your biggest audio pit peeves?

Speaker:

Jaayne: Have you ever completely bailed on a podcast because the audio was just too painful to get through?

Speaker:

Jamie: Let's hear those audio horror stories.

Speaker:

Jaayne: Share your pain with us hit us up on social media you know we love a good audio rant until next.

Speaker:

Jamie: Time happy listening

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