Why You should check out Lucid's Kickstarter and The Current State of Nintendo ft. Eric Manahan

Normally we talk about a game that you should have in your video game backlog. However, in this episode, Sebastion highlights an upcoming indie game that you should have on your wishlist. That game is Lucid.

In this episode, Sebastion talks with the Creator and Sole Developer of Lucid, Eric Manahan! Eric Manahan talks in Depth about his game, Why you should back the kickstarter, and he and Sebastion talk about the current state of Nintendo. We've got all this and more on this episode of the Single Player Experience!

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WISHLIST ON STEAM!: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1717730/LUCID/…

FOLLOW the KICKSTARTER!: http://lucidkickstarter.com

Twitch : https://twitch.tv/thematteblackstudio… (Follow us as we play LUCID INSPIRATIONS!)

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what's up and welcome to the Single Player Experience Podcast.

I'm your host, Sebastian Marton, and in this episode we're gonna be talking

to the creator of Lucid Eric Manahan.

Eric and I have spoken previously on an episode of the Single Player Experience

where we let you know what Lucid is and why you should be excited about it.

Well, this episode is an update to that one because Lucid is

about to launch its Kickstarter.

In this episode, Eric is gonna tell you why you should back this game

on Kickstarter, and he and I are going to talk about the current

state of Nintendo and why it's time for a Nintendo Switch Pro.

We got all this and more come right at you right after the intro, dJ start the intro.

Mine.

Hey, everyone.

Like I said in the intro, we have a very special guest joining us today.

He is the solo dev extraordinaire.

He is a creator of the Dope Game lucid, and he's just a rockstar.

I'm so excited to have him on the show.

Joining me today is Eric Manahan.

Eric, how you doing

today?

I'm doing well, Sebastian.

How are you?

I'm doing good.

I'm doing good.

I, I probably said this like a million times over the course of last year, but I

am so looking forward to your game, lucid.

I really

am.

That makes me so happy, dude.

It like, it never gets, uh, it never loses.

Its like sparkle when, when I hear that, that makes me.

So very happy.

Thank you.

You know, like I, it's, it's getting to a crazy point too, because

in my life I have a hype anticipation meter and that hype anticipation

meter, like at the very top, there's like M C U Marvel movies mm-hmm.

and like the huge games that I'm waiting for.

Mm-hmm.

, like, you're right there now.

Like you're, you're right there.

Like as a time of recording, like we're, um, we're nearing the ant man, um,

quantum manian, like, it's about to come out in theaters and like, and me being

a M C U kind of guy, I, I pretty much like go to the openings, uh, at least

like the Thursday or Friday openings of all like M C U movies and like Uhhuh

That level of anticipation is what I have for your game now.

So I'm like, oh my God, you're right there.

So I'm so excited to have you on the show.

So excited for to play Lucid when it comes out.

But before I do that, you know, you've been on the show before, but in case

people haven't heard that episode, can you introduce yourself, your

game and the Kickstarter, because Lucid has a Kickstarter that I really

think people should go in support.

Can you introduce all that to the.

I'll do my darnedest.

Um, so yes.

Um, my name is Eric Manahan.

I am, uh, the developer behind the game.

Lucid.

It is a, uh, love letter to all the games I played growing up, uh, with an

additional like modern sensibilities cuz you know, games have evolved.

Um, it's, uh, I've been love, like affectionately calling

it the World's first Celestia.

Um, that would make more sense if, if you could see the trailer.

So you guys should go see the trailer.

Um, and the most important thing right now in my life is the, the, uh,

the Lucid Kickstarter that you can go to at, uh, lucid kickstarter.com.

You can go there and all you gotta do is just gotta, you just gotta press

one little click and say, notify me.

It would just make my day would mean the absolute world.

I I would give you a million hugs and kisses.

Just gotta press one button.

Thank you so

much.

So Eric, you know, uh, I'm sure people are gonna stream to that Kickstarter, but we

were talking about this a little offline.

You were, were going back and forth on what you were going

to do regarding the, the demo.

Can you give people a little taste of the demo?

Yes.

Okay.

So, , um, I'm doing my darnedest to create like the most thorough

vertical slice of the game for this demo and for, or anybody.

The vertical slice is a really weird term.

A vertical slice is kind of, um, think of like a game as like a, a layered cake.

And you, you cut into the cake and it's a piece, and every

layer is an aspect of the game.

Like everything you're gonna do in that game is in that one slice,

even if it's just a tiny sliver.

Uh, so you got your like, uh, your full gameplay loop, so to speak.

I'm really trying to get everything I, I can in this demo, um, to really

get the point across of what lucid.

Is cuz it's a pretty like, uh, what's it called?

Like, uh, everything's designed holistically, so if one piece

is missing, I, I feel like it's just not gonna hit as hard.

So, um, that said, um, I'm full steam ahead on this demo.

It's coming along really nicely.

Um, and I would, I'm like leaning really, really heavily towards a

simultaneous drop with the Kickstarter.

I would love to hear your viewer's thoughts.

I would like, uh, in your comments and if they don't, uh, at me, Sebastian

please, you tell me what they say.

Uh, but if you guys want to come to the Lucid Discord and tell

me too, that'd be pretty cool.

But, um, yeah.

What are your guys opinions on like demos that drop with Kickstarters?

Does it give too much away?

Do you get your fill and say, I'm done.

That was good.

Yummy.

Yum, I'm done.

Uh, or would the alternative of, um, like if you pledge a baseline

amount, you get access to the alpha at the end of the Kickstarter.

Um, I feel like.

It makes sense on paper, but it might feel just like, this feels bad, man.

So I, I would love to get some more input from you, Sebastian,

your fans, like everybody.

Uh, so that's where my head's at right now.

For sure.

For sure.

Um, so everyone, the link to the Kickstarter and his Discord is

gonna be in the show notes in the description of the episode.

So give them all that sweet love and all the feedback because like, I, you

know, like this is a hard choice and, you know, I know there's so much thought

and so much like decision making, uh, this decision making that comes mm-hmm.

into like, Kickstarters making a game and everything like that.

Like how do you handle all these big decisions?

Oof,

uh, , uh, that's a really good question, man.

Uh, , I, I wish I had like a really thoughtful answer.

It's really like what I, I think I, I steer a lot of the ship with my gut.

Um, what I, as a like, outsider, like if I saw.

Uh, if I saw the equivalent of me doing something, like what would that ship

be doing that makes me feel like I, um, like respect what they're doing.

I agree with how they're doing it.

Um, like I, I like where their headset at.

They seem to give a crap about their audience, um, engaged with the audience.

They, they try to give their, their crew.

It's due like I just had.

I was hosting a, uh, an art contest, and everyone came out and just freaking

crushed it, dude, they, every day I would wake up to like, that's dope.

That, that's also dope.

And, um, like an idiot, I, I said, there'll be a grand prize

winner, and I forgot, you gotta choose a winner, Sebastian.

You have no idea how hard it is to choose a winner when there

was like a hundred winners.

But, um, so what I tried to do as a thank you was, um, every single entry

I either cut up into like a highlights reel and made it, it's its own post on my

Instagram and socials and added everybody.

I recently just did a few interview questions with all the art, uh, a

handful of the artists that you can check out their interviews and the discord.

I couldn't fit it all, but I just try to give back the love that I receive

because like, it just seems right.

Um, so there's a long-winded way of saying, uh, all these decisions,

like try to go with my gut.

I talked to my friends, I talked to the Lucid community, um, and

they really helped me, I think so far, make the right decisions.

So all these people submitted like really cool art and,

you know, you really had to make the tough decision there on like

what was gonna win the grand prize.

But what was it like seeing all the different, like art styles

and like, everything that people submitted about your video game,

man.

Yeah, man.

Uh, I mean, first of all, baseline, always flattered, completely humbled.

It's always like, I, I never expect to get like, I don't know, I'll get,

I'll get a handful, but then it's just like so many and it's just like, it's

bizarre cuz this project was just this little project in my room alone and

seeing my characters in world just being interpreted in all these, like you said,

different mediums is surreal, dude.

Uh, but, uh, what's it like to see all that?

I, uh, I can't.

Describe it.

Like I've seen, I've seen 3D renders of little characters that

look like it's a Pixar movie.

I've seen comic book, I've seen musical stuff.

I've seen, uh, uh, tracks like based on a character.

Uh, what did I see?

I saw a video game, a push mo.

They made like a pushup.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do you remember Push Mo?

Yeah.

Yeah.

They made a push mo level based on like one of the characters in Pixel art.

It was, it was insane.

Um, I saw somebody did a, uh, a, a stained glass thing.

Some other guy did a laser like etching that you could like light up the etching.

It was crazy.

So, um, I again, thank you to everybody that came out, but, uh, it, it sincerely

made my day for as long as that, or for every day that that was going on.

Waking up and seeing entries was just the

best.

So did any of the entries make you want to change any, like, art style in your game?

Uh, I, I wouldn't say it made me want to change my art style.

It's kind of like set in stone , but, but it definitely gave me ideas for sure.

Like, uh, there was a few little scenes, there's a few, there was a

few interpretations of characters and, um, things that I have pixelated where

that's what, see, I've always said that's the beauty about pixel art,

you know, and even, um, old 64 era stuff, it leaves the br like the mind,

there's some freedom to fill in the blanks, you know, like it's not mm-hmm.

HD graphics.

It's like you need to be interactive with the art and like fill in the

gaps of what you think that is.

And those artists did that.

And, uh, it, it's so cool because it's stuff like I didn't think

of and I'm like, oh, I'm stealing that . I, I'm taking that for sure.

So, yeah, it, uh, it definitely

influenced.

So let me ask you, like, you know, you're a creative person

and as a creative person, you'll always, like, you can't help it.

Your brain always goes on to thinking about ideas and, and in game

development, you're working on a project.

Like how do you stay on that one particular idea of like, staying on

track with this project versus like, Hey, oh my gosh, I just got an, a

really cool idea for another game,

you know?

Oh yeah.

Another good question.

Um, well, my, um, my misses, she will tell you that I suffer from a

hardcore case of tunnel vision and, uh, I'm like a dog with a bone.

I, I'll, I just won't let go until it's done.

Um, so I, I don't, I don't really struggle with.

Deviating from the path.

Uh, it's kind of like anytime you're right though, like I'll be walking

around and I feel bad sometimes.

I think we may have talked about this last time, so forgive me.

Mm-hmm.

if I'm telling my story again.

But, um, we'll be out and I'll just, we'll be talking and we'll be walking

the dog and I'll be like, I'll see, uh, I saw a woodpecker the other day.

We were on a, uh, we call it nature walks.

We were on a nature walk with the dog in the little, the woods that are near us.

And, uh, this woodpecker was going, it was so close and so

loud, I'd never seen it before.

And all of a sudden it sparked this idea or this memory of like those

little woodpecker and mega man x's stinking chameleon le level.

Yeah.

Right.

And, uh, then I was like, oh my God, I, I need to do that.

I have to make an homage.

I need to make, and then I thought about what the, what mechanics

are in the game right now?

What can I apply to this?

And then I was like, oh, I, I know what I wanna do.

I know I've been working on these new assets and I can

incorporate it into a woodpecker.

And there you go.

New idea.

So, uh, Yeah, man, I guess everything just kind of gets filtered through this,

this what, this lucid filter everything.

So, hey, you know, like you, you're about to start

on the Kickstarter journey.

Like how nerve wracking is that to, to start on a platform?

You're, you're, while you're familiar with it, you understand all the

concepts, like you're barking on this journey for the first time yourself.

Yeah.

It's, um, stress-inducing.

It's definitely stress-inducing.

I, uh, I would be lying and disingenuous if I said it wasn't nerve-wracking.

Uh, had a, I've had a.

A few stints of just waking up, like really stressed out and just

like, oh my, why am I sweating?

, ? Uh, I've had a lot of weird, weird fever dreams that I can only attribute

to either, uh, some repressed memories or just more likely stress.

But, uh, yeah, it's definitely stressful, dude.

Um, I mean, I did a Kickstarter, or I was a part of a team who did a

Kickstarter before, and, uh, so I have like a shade, a taste of it, you know?

Mm-hmm.

. But, um, I wasn't kind of the captain of that ship, so to speak.

So now that it's like all on, for the most part, all on me, it's.

It's a lot.

There's a lot to think about.

Like, we've kind of alluded to, you know, like, uh, rewards, uh, uh, price

points, um, like, like incentives, uh, trailers demo, like reaching out to

play, uh, streamers who want to play it.

Uh, how do you create buzz around the release?

Like it's, there's so many pots and pans on the stove.

You gotta like be flipping all the time.

It's like a, what are they called?

A short order chef or something like that.

. Sebastion: Yeah.

For sure.

For sure.

So I gotta ask you, like you, you've been working so hard on game development.

Have you had a lot of time to play games yourself lately?

Yes and no.

Um, No, on my off time, however, it's a, a really good segue into,

um, so, uh, my buddy and I, we had started doing like this sort

of, uh, matte black studio stream.

Mm-hmm.

, where we play games either, um, influencer for, for Lucid or games.

We love old Metro vens.

And it kind of got put on the back burner, keeping on the, the, the

chef metaphors got put on the back burner cuz they're just taking too

much away from actual death time.

But fast forward to now, um, between the Discord community, kind of

like, Hey, we're we kind of like those, bring bring those back, man.

So between that and then Aaron and I kind of like figured out a good system

like schedule, uh, they're back.

So that's how I get my games in now every Thursday at 7:00 PM Eastern

Standard time find us at, uh, twitch.tv.

Uh, the Matt Black Studio.

I, I think I, I don't know, but uh, maybe that'll.

Whatever.

Uh, if you ever wanna watch us stream, you hit us up.

But, um, that's how I get our games.

And we've just recently played, we played Dead Space.

We played, uh, dead Space Remastered.

We played, um, oh my God, we've just played Metro Prime,

remastered, . Uh, that was awesome.

And then we also played, it Takes two, and then we played a few community like demos,

um, edge of Allegria by average Joe.

And, um, that was super fun.

Like, it's really great to have friends who've been making games alongside you

and your community and like, play it on stream with them in the chat and

just like, like kick the piss out of them and they kick the piss out of us

for sucking and it's just a good time.

. Uh, and then we also, he was just editing this episode.

We played, um, deliver us Mars.

Oh yeah.

Mm-hmm.

, uh, have you

played

that game?

I've only seen trailers, but I'm, I'm aware of the concept of the game.

Cool.

Cool, cool, cool.

Um, I was, I don't wanna.

Shit on another dev, so I'm gonna not gonna do that.

The game isn't for you then.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Yes, yes, it is definitely.

It's not, I am not, its target demographic.

Let's

say that.

That's for, that's understandable.

Not every game is for everybody, so I'm like, exactly.

There are plenty of games I play all the time to where I'm like, I like

aspects, I like, I can understand what you were trying to go for here.

It is just not for me personally on that personal

level.

That's a thousand percent.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You see, I need, I need you for some pr man, man.

Just let me know

I got your back.

Goddamn.

That was so good.

I would sit here and just bury myself.

Be like, that guy's a dick.

, . Sebastion: No, man.

It's, it is all good.

Like they're, uh, like I've been playing tons of games recently, you know, um,

and had several different developers and, and different, like, different people on

the podcast where we talk about different games and like, while some aspects are

like something that really speaks to me on a personal level, some aspects

don't really hit to me personally, but like, The crazy thing about us as gamers

is like we, you know, like, just like movies, there's so many different genres.

There's so many things that spark each individual person's interest.

So Yep.

Different strikes for different

folks.

A a thousand percent.

I couldn't agree more.

Like, not everything.

I don't think any, I don't think everything should be

made for everyone, like mm-hmm.

, there's ob, like that's what cult followings are, and that's how you

get those crazy like, um, niche audiences that just like, that's the

thing they love and you can't tell 'em otherwise, and that's awesome.

Yeah.

Recently one, um, like a perfect example of this and just a side note

here is like, there's a, a game you probably remember that was released

in the late in the PS4 era of Days.

Gone.

Like I Oh yeah.

You know, the zombie hoard game.

Yeah.

Survivor, zombie H Game.

I like aspects of that game.

And I also like, I don't like the game as a whole, like I think it is a real cool

concept, just that it didn't speak to me.

And this is coming from a person who really liked, like games

like the Last of Us Dead Rising and, and other zombie games.

Like didn't, like a, didn't like the game as a whole, but that

game has a huge cult following.

People would wear it like legitimately, like they will go to bat for that game.

They are like, they are signing petitions, like, make a

sequel, don't do anything else.

Make a sequel of that game.

Wow.

And I'm like, I love that people are passionate about that, but it's

not for me personally, you know?

Yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like don't get mad at me for not liking it and I'm not gonna

get mad at you for liking it.

Exactly.

Yeah.

To each their own, my dudes.

Exactly.

So tell me about the stream.

What have y'all been streaming lately since you put it on pause,

like before you put it on pause.

That is Well, um,

Well, we've been streaming, uh, what have we, we played,

uh, some community demos.

We ju we're currently in the midst of finishing metro prime remastered.

And, uh, man, that's just like sitting in like, uh, I don't know.

I use the metaphor of like, um, you have like your first

car and you sold it, right?

Mm-hmm.

. But then somehow or another you stumble upon your old car and you just sit

down, you rub your hands around the wheel and you're like, ah, this is nice.

. It felt great.

Like I've been enjoying the fuck out of it.

Um, , I, uh, when the first one came out, I had torn my a c L, so I was kind of

out for the count for like, the perfect time when it dropped, like the week

of, so I played a lot of Metro Prime.

So picking it up again was a treat that said, um, my buddy , uh, who

had never played it before and was sitting like, you know, Driver's

seat or, uh, passenger seat rather.

Um, I didn't, I, I play fast and I didn't realize I look over and he was

like getting pale in the face and like the, between all the visors switching.

Mm-hmm.

. And he is like, bro, I, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna throw up, I'm gonna throw up . He's

like, getting motion sickness from all, like the, the movement and moving around.

I felt so bad.

But, uh, yeah, I, uh, I'm really enjoying MedEd Prime and, we'll, we're

gonna be finishing it up, uh, tomorrow.

Yeah.

So let's talk a little bit bit about Metro Prime.

Like what aspects do you enjoy about it?

Like the nuances that you enjoy about this remaster versus playing the original.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

Um, I think it would be a shorter list to say what I don't like.

Okay.

Cuz then I can go into what I do like, cuz it's pretty much everything . Um, yeah.

It's, so the things that I, where it's not, I don't like, is.

and it's not even a complete, don't like I do, like the, um, they added, um, like

traditional like analog control where you move with left and aim with, right?

Yeah.

It's a modern day shooter controls

now.

Mm-hmm.

. Mm-hmm.

. So that said, they had to like free up some stuff and how

they rework the, the controls.

I didn't, my muscle memory, like I kept hitting the wrong buttons, man.

And when I went to the controls options and I looked at like the traditional

controls, I'm like, yeah, see like where my thumb keeps going, that's

where I want that button to be.

And it wouldn't let me.

You can change controls to four different, like pr load outs, but then

you couldn't change individual buttons.

And I was like, I just want to switch these two and they wouldn't let me.

Um, so that's like my biggest gripe with the uh, the remaster.

Um, like my fingers were just starting to hurt cuz I had to do

this weird kind of cloth thing.

, I'm old, don't at me.

My, my fa my hands hurt, whatever.

Um, So, yeah, that's pretty much it on the negatives.

Oh, oh, sorry.

There's one more.

Um, the thermal visor, I could have sworn it wasn't so fuzzy and it

really, it, it's kind of a lot on the eyes and especially for my buddy

who was about to up chuck his lunch.

Uh, it's a lot like, I made it real fuzzy and hard to, I remember it being

smoother and just kind of like, like, I don't know, low poly or something.

But, uh, those are the only two things that stood out to me.

Nearly everything el like the textures are fantastic.

The lighting's fantastic.

The graphics are great.

I mean, the gameplays traditional metro prime.

What more can you ask for?

Uh, I, I, have you played Metro Prime?

I

played the original back in the day.

I've not played the Remasters.

So I was wondering, you know, like the, the major differences in whether

or not, like, do you feel like you felt satisfied and fulfilled dump

and jumping back in after all this

time?

, I would say a, a big yes.

I, uh, I, I was going for, we were streamed for like four and a half,

five hours, and I could have gone for more, but I looked over and my

friend was just pale as a ghost.

I was like, all right, maybe we, maybe we take a breather.

But, uh, yeah, I could have kept going.

Um, yeah, I wholeheartedly, I, I'm a big metro fan if it wasn a wasn't a secret.

So, uh, I highly recommend.

So do you think this is the best remastered that

Nintendo has done recently?

Ooh.

Okay, hold on.

Now I gotta do a little.

Memories

tallying up of all the remasters that

they've done.

Yeah, dude.

Yeah.

Like I, the one I was talking with some buddies, and like, the last

one I can remember that I played was, um, the 3D s Zeldas, you know,

the Majors mask and the Arina.

Mm-hmm.

. Um, and those are pretty phenomenal in their own right, like the whole, the two,

um, the inventory on the touchscreen, like completely mitigated, all that, like

pausing and stopping shenanigans of the original, the updated graphics were great.

Um, I haven't finished Metroid Prime, so it would be unfair.

I don't know if they added new content.

I think by

this point though, you, you kind of like, you know, you

get the gist of it to know like a lot of it's been unchanged other

than like the upskilling you.

. Yeah.

Yeah.

I, I, I don't, I think it, I don't, I don't think I can say it's the best.

Okay.

Because of, because of my set issues.

If it didn't have those issues, I might've been able to say it.

But, uh, considering we just played the Dead Space remaster mm-hmm.

and then played the Metro Primary Master, like the both great games, great

remasters, but the Dead Space remaster.

Like, I, I had nothing.

There was, I was just like a, a pick and shit, dude.

It was . It was so much fun.

Um, truth be told, I got a little too, uh, we figured out on sh for

the first time, I'm an old man and I don't know how Stream works and we

just figured out, um, channel points.

Okay.

And, uh, we're like, wait, you can make people pay your channel points

and we do stuff That's amazing.

and I, I'm playing and my buddy who is, uh, he just, uh, uh, uh, He's

got more, he can drink more than me.

He, he's got more of a tolerance than you do.

Uh, he, I used to have more, but then I, I went rock climbing and I, I just lost a.

I, I look like this gaunt skeleton person out of nowhere, . So I, I, I'm still

acting like I'm not, so I'm like trying to keep up with, which I usually could,

and I'm like, I forgot I lost 20 pounds.

And it, oh my God.

So he was in the control of like the, The, the, the, um, channel point rewards.

Mm-hmm.

or whatever.

Mm-hmm.

. And he was like hotshot sauce, uh, shot, shots shot, hot shot , hot sauce shots.

It was just like one after another.

And people were just, he also grossly underestimated how much

channel points the, the crew had.

And they were just like dropping those points like immediately.

So it was just shot after shot after shot.

I got pretty sauced on that stream.

My, my dude.

Um, that's so funny.

I'm sure when that episode comes off, we're gonna have

a little towel, like a guess.

When Eric became belligerently drunk

, Sebastion: it was like the

10.

It's amazing.

. And at that point, you're still like flawlessly playing metro in private

. Eric: Yeah.

No, I, you could, you could tell.

All of a sudden I was just, Sucking wind and he . I was like aiming at the wall.

It was bad.

It was so bad.

But that said, that remaster was amazing.

I thoroughly enjoyed that dead space game.

It was really, really, really, really good.

Is

that, so that's good because the reason why I ask is because, like,

I feel like the narrative around Nido is like, they either go super hard with it or

like they barely put any effort into it.

Yes.

You know, like is, there's like the, the Zeldas, like the Skyward swords

and, and like the, what was it, the Mario 3D collection where they just

basically put out the same game and then like, then you have like Zelda's links

awakening, which is like really good.

It's like a yes.

Rebuilt from the ground up with a really gorgeous art style.

And then you have this, you know, metro prime remastered.

And this seems like they actually put a lot, lot of effort into it.

You

know, you're, you absolutely, you're hit the nail on the head.

Um, it, it is peculiar as to like what.

Why, why, why are some and why are some not?

And, uh, I mean, I can only speculate and I can only speculate that it has to do

with like bi like a business decision.

I, the Skyward sword debacle, it felt like because Breath

of the Wild got pushed back.

They're like, we have to toss them like a, a piece of meat.

Mm-hmm.

like, just like gnaw on this for a while.

And they just like, oh, what can we do?

I don't know, up res skyward sword.

Uh, 60 bucks, yay, . Um, because like, they clearly can do it if

they give a shit like I mm-hmm.

. But then that argument kind of, or that reasoning kind of

falls short for the Mario one.

They weren't trying to push anything out.

Like I, I don't know.

I don't know what that, that was so weird.

And then it was also a limited release.

Yeah,

yeah.

Like it, like they were the Disney vault, so to speak, where they were

just like, you can't have it before.

I'm like, it's a digital good man.

Just throw it to us.

It's a feels bad man.

Why, why, why do that?

Um, I, I, I, I couldn't tell you, I am perplexed.

I will always, and always have been an Nintendo fanboy, but, uh, man, do they

make some decisions where I'm like, what?

Why?

Yeah, I think a lot of people have coined it weird Nintendo decisions.

Like

? Eric: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, okay, okay.

Nintendo gonna, Nintendo, I guess.

Mm-hmm.

. . Yeah.

You know, like the crazy thing is, is like, you know, there's such a discrepancy

in quality too, cuz like we get so many good games, like Breath of the Wild Mario

Odyssey, you know, Metro Prime now and then like that's the creme de la creme.

Like those games are like Game of the Year contenders.

Every year they drop and then you also get like the Mario Sports

games to where I'm like, This should not be a full title like this.

They feel like all together you can charge $60 for 'em, but like separately, it

feels like you are robbing people for $60.

Absolutely.

Individually.

Absolutely.

And even, um, that Mario party, like it was, it was, it was good.

It was very well constructed, but it was so, it was a so tiny, it was so tiny.

Mm-hmm.

Sebastian, what the fuck was that?

There was only four boards.

I, I don't, I don't

get it.

I don't either.

Give us a meat man.

If you're gonna put some mouth feed us, you

know, or at the very least, D L c I mean, they've been pumping out Mario

cart eight D l c for like 1,000 years.

What?

It's going up.

I mean, I hope they do the same treatment, but they're not,

they're not even doing that.

Eric, I was about to say, I hope they do what they for Smash Bros.

What they do for, um, Mario Card eight.

But they've already said, they're like, they're done and they're never, oh my God.

Don't get me started on Steve and Kazu.

Ugh.

Mm-hmm.

, Jesus Christ.

Anyway, I don't want to get angry

. Sebastion: I, you know, like I'm, I'm

Like I, okay.

While I don't like the quality of like, some of the Pokemon games recently,

like, I like the fact that hey, let's push things to a new generation.

Like, I'm that kind of person to where I'm like, don't give me the same game

and like, just make me repay for it.

At least gimme a new experience.

Mm-hmm.

sort of person.

Som.

I love the, I love it for the people who love, like, hey, we're getting new

cart, like new carts and like a couple of new courses every couple months.

Yeah.

But I'm like, can I just have a Mario cart at nine at this point?

Like, yes.

I don't, I'm, I, I don't need eight deluxe for the last seven years.

Like, I give me at least a new Mario cart, like with, uh, with some of the

new characters y'all come out with.

Like, give me some with like the arms people to where like maybe

they can like, throw their arms.

Right.

Throw their arms.

That'd be a really cool, yeah, that'd be, well, I don't know if that'd be enough.

That's a cool item idea.

It was just like a giant, um, spring, yeah.

Punch thing that looks really cool.

Gimme

that.

But I platoon, like, gimme, you can make, like, make their, the

road like wet behind you using like some of the guns or something like

that.

It, it's, it make rights itself.

It's basically, it really does.

It's like a, a long form banana chain, but like mm-hmm.

, it's this long streak of banana chain.

That'd be super cool, man.

I mean, I feel like we could have our cake and eat it too.

Like all they got us to do is keep doing what they're doing, but also drop like

a, a teaser, a teaser trailer for nine.

Just let us know what's in development.

I, that would make, uh, a lot of people happy me.

Thanks.

I,

I think so too.

I think so too.

Like, um, I, I'm looking at it and I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, surely

they don't have that whole team just working on like, Mario party, uh, like

Mario Cart, d l c, like that whole team is just tolling away on D D L C.

They gotta be working on something else.

You know that Gotti

Right?

That'd be insane.

Like,

don't way to just have that whole team just sitting there

working on DLC for a game that's, that came out of the Weu, like, yeah.

Yeah.

That is insane to me.

That's so true.

Plus like, all the assets that they are using, I feel like they're

just, Kind of like assets in the vault somewhere, and they're just

kind of moving them into the game.

Oh, yeah.

Copying and pasting basically at that

point.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I, I'm not gonna sit here and pretend I know what goes

on at the big end, but mm-hmm.

, come on guys.

I mean, I recently, uh, speaking of trailers and stuff, um, I

mean, what about, let me, I'll be the podcast person for a second.

Um, how'd you, yeah, go ahead.

How'd you feel about the, uh, the breath of the wild trailer?

Um, the tears of the Kingdom like that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

. I am, uh, yeah.

Okay.

Like, I am so mixed on this game right now, because like, whereas I Thank you.

I, whereas I am a person who liked Birth of the Wild, I'm not a person who was

like, Hey, this is the greatest game of all time kind of person, like mm-hmm.

that I wasn't that person to begin with.

And like, that trailer to me just felt like more birth of the wild.

And with a couple of like cars thrown in with a thank you.

Thank you that that's all it felt like to me.

And then like, it sours that a little bit to me where you're

like, we still have the switch.

We are giving you a new breath of the wild, like game tears

of the kingdom in this case.

And we're just, because like this is our premier title, this year we're gonna

charge an extra $10 just because Yeah.

Like now it's $70.

I I, yeah.

It didn't feel like a, it felt like Nintendo doing weird Nintendo decisions

at that point, and they're also like doing bad consumer decisions.

Yeah.

So it felt tainted to me.

Like I, I looked at that whole thing and I was like, oh, this,

I, people are gonna be like, oh my God, this is the best thing ever.

And meanwhile I'm over here being like, bro, this, yeah, this feels gross.

Uh, you, you, I, I was, if I'm being, I completely didn't see

that we're on the exact same page.

That is how I felt , uh, during that stream.

Um, we, we actually did a, a reaction stream to the stream.

Mm-hmm.

and, um, I was more hyped for the metro prime shadow drop at 40 bucks.

I was like, so ecstatic.

And then after that I was like, Ugh.

Mm-hmm.

, what, what is there more?

And they're like, eh, goodbye.

And I was like, that was it.

And everyone's like, brother the wild.

And I was like, nah.

But nah, I don't know.

I, I agree.

I had this such a mix, like I'm, I'm obviously gonna get it.

Mm-hmm.

, I'm obviously hype, but for some reason I am not hyped about what just happened.

Yeah.

I can understand that completely.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I, and again, I, I keep, every time I, I'm like in the Discord talking

and they're like, what you think?

I'm like, I don't know, man.

And I just send, as long as we avoid this and I send a gif of, um, the

banjo, kazu nuts and bolts mm-hmm.

, I, I'm just like, what?

I don't know.

I, I, maybe my age is showing, , I get, I get the idea that there's

like tech and ancient chika tech and that there could be some steam punk

elements, but there's something weird.

There's like this, um, dis dis um, mental, like this dissonance of

seeing link on a car in my Zelda game.

And I'm just, I'm just like, what is go?

That's, that's, that's not right.

It's mixing too meme genres together.

Yeah.

It just doesn't feel right.

I, I don't know.

I mean, I, it again, it might fall into that.

Some kids are probably fucking ectatic for it, dude.

Mm-hmm.

and I'm happy, I'm so happy for them.

And, uh, yeah, I'm old and maybe my Zelda is the older Zelda, but yeah,

it just didn't, it didn't hit right.

I really hope, uh, when they, if if they do a, a bigger in, uh, dive, I don't know.

I, I would love to not feel this way cuz

I, I don't think they will.

It seems like they're trying to keep all their cards close

to the chest about this game.

Hush hush.

Yeah, it does.

Uh, either that or they're gonna do like a whole Nintendo

direct jest about this game.

And I don't, that's,

that's it.

That's my f yeah, that's my fingers crossed.

I have all my digits crossed for that, but I, I think you're right.

I don't think they are.

I, I think they're gonna just drop it and be like, be surprised.

Um, I don't know, man.

And then I think Arlo our, our favorite blue puppet friend, uh mm-hmm.

, he, his, in his video, he also shared a se a sentiment that I have, which is, um, the

whole ganor or presumably Gander's voice.

He, he goes from this huge mysterious, like no words, no nothing, and all

of a sudden he's just this voiceover, like generic anime voice guy.

And it's just like, you're not, you're gonna drop it here.

That should be a big moment.

Like, what are you doing?

I don't know.

I thought it was a pretty, uh, it seems like it was a

misfire from the $70 thing, and

Yeah, it does.

I, I don't know, like.

You know, this game seems like it would be hard to market, but it kind of

writes itself to where I'm like, just show us like actual gameplay footage.

Like show five minutes of footage of pe of just one random person

in your office playing the game.

Yes.

And I guarantee you people are gonna be more hyped about it than this video

package.

I, I agree.

Yeah.

Do like, um, a pseudo curated en encounter where it's in engine, it's

a person playing, but like obviously it's set up to like highlight all

the cool new shit you're gonna do in this game and like let you get give

of the guy, uh, us of an experience.

Like we're we, we're on the controls.

Cuz right now it's just like you say, this is a bunch of little clips

and all the clips not for nothing.

It looks like it's from Breath of the Wild.

Yeah.

I can't tell the difference, but I think like that's kind of a part

of the problem too, is because.

This is still on the switch, which is, which came out

2000, like 2017 and like Yeah.

At this point is really starting to show its age, especially like

with Pokemon Scarlet and Violet.

That just ran like old serpent Ahop at this point.

Dude,

dude, that's so perfect.

. Yeah.

Uh, Pokemon is basically old syrup at ihop.

Uh, holy crap.

Yeah, I , I I, it didn't really strike me until just now how old the switch is.

Yeah, man, it's been a minute.

I can't believe that they, oh, that's a holiday discussion.

The whole switch pro.

And where the hell is it?

Um, that would've been a great thing to drop this holiday season

with a new breath, uh, Skyward.

Ah, what the fuck?

Uh, tears of the kingdom.

Yeah, dude.

Just do it now.

Like, and I know.

the game's coming out.

What?

I think the May 15th.

May, May 15th.

I wanna say something around there.

Something like that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm like, I know the game's coming out real soon.

I'm like, that seems like a misfire not to have a console

around that time or Awesome.

It just, it feels, it, it goes together.

Why, why do you not have a new console

for that?

Yeah, and, and I mean, I, correct me if I'm wrong, I, I'm wrong a lot, but, um,

I doesn't Zelda feel like a, like a, a holiday end of year, kind of like, not.

May event was the

old one in May.

I, I can't remember when, um, breath of the Wild came out,

but like, yeah, I can't either.

It seems like Nintendo has always been a, like a big proponent of having a

holiday game, like at least, yeah, a fall title, like of Mario Odyssey, like

title to where you put it into the fall.

They have their big game there, you know?

Yep.

Yep.

The more, the more I think about it, I took, I took a literal week

off of work when that first breath of the wild dropped and I, I took

off an entire week for a staycation.

Woke up at nine, went to bed at 3:00 AM for seven days and

played Breath of the Wild.

It was glorious , but now I think about it, when I got back

to the office, it was very cold.

I was wearing a scarf and a jacket was super duper cold, which hints

to me that, I think it was around the holidays, maybe November even.

But, uh, yeah, I don't know.

Some

something.

You're also on the east coast though, so I'm like, oh, truth, truth, truth.

You're also on the East Coast, so I'm like, I think that you're 2017, it

was like, um, one half of the year and I think the front half was Zda

cuz the back half of that same year, Mario Odyssey was her fall game.

Oh

shit.

You know, you're right.

Oh, there you go.

There's me being wrong again,

. Sebastion: No, no.

And you know, like, the crazy thing is, it's like we were talking about Zelda and

like the, the, the futuristic mechanics that kind of mix in with this genre.

The, it seems very xeno to me more so than Zelda.

Oh.

Yeah.

Yay.

You know what, you're right.

They have been leaning in harder and harder into the

sheika like aspect of Zelda.

Mm-hmm.

. And, um, I get, I mean, you gotta do something new.

I just, my, my warm spa, my comfy place, my kid in me is like Zelda's high fantasy.

It's like horses and swords and bombs and boomerangs and

slingshots and cutting bushes.

It's, it's not so much riding propellers in the sky with a magic

arm and steam punk and mm-hmm.

. It just doesn't feel like my, it's not Zelda, but, uh, , you know what, maybe

it's not, it's not being made for me.

It is what it is.

I

bet you're gonna play this, this game and just be, you know, even

if, if it's not like a 10 outta 10, you're gonna be in love with this game

still.

You're probably right at this point.

It's, it's like, it's probably gonna be a, a banger of a game and all this, uh,

naysay is gonna be fornot, but, uh, it is, I, I'm speaking my truth right now.

Sebastian . This is how I feels.

It's how I

feel.

I'm right there with you.

I'm right there with you.

So, you know, like y you're an old school Zelda fan.

How would you like to see, like, mini cap done in the, the Link Awakens style

to where like, they remaster or remake that game, but like, use that same link

awakens, like art style with that game?

Bro, I've never even thought, uh, I mean, talking about the last

stream, like another thing of the hype ness was that whole, all the Game

Boy games that were coming with it.

Mm-hmm.

and Mini Cap was there.

Yeah.

And I've never played the mini cap, never played it as like a huge sell.

The fan never got around to it.

And I, I would love to play it so, The proposition of having like that new

style that also was so, it was so good.

I love that, uh, that re um, remaster of awakening.

I would play that in a heartbeat.

I, um, I, I, I think Nintendo's like missing a like, uh, kind of like a

golden marketing opportunity to where like the Mario has 2D Mario and then they have

like the 3D Marios like Yep, yep, yep.

That's the, that's the way it works.

Like Zelda, you can remaster all the old retro Zelda games in that same kind

of art style or a similar vibe to that.

And you could still put out your breath of the wild types, you know, your big open

world game.

I could not agree with you mar you, you're a hundred percent right.

Um, like I remember there was speculation of when that first one came out and

everyone's like, yo, does this mean we're gonna get maybe like oracles of, uh,

Oracle ages and seasons in this style?

Cuz that'd be dope.

Um, but yeah, even like you just said, like even if they

don't do the exact, like, take.

What they have and like tweak it slightly if even if they want to, but yeah.

Why are they not releasing those, uh, top-down Zeldas in a hd, uh,

a high res like toy box, whatever.

Uh, it is beyond me.

Like I would buy those in a heartbeat.

Most people would.

And I, you know, like, um, I was gonna do an episode about this and I think

like, now speaking about it, I'm like, we basically are doing the episode

that I'm kind of was thinking about doing, but like, I, you know, I was,

you know, I was thinking about this while I was, you know, kind of rough

drafting, like what the layouts for.

Like some of my episodes were gonna be Uhhuh . And I thought to myself,

I'm like, what are the games that defined this era for the Nintendo

Switch that are original games?

Not remastered, Uhhuh , not remakes, but like original games that you

could say those are the Switch era

games.

Hmm.

And Switch era being the from 17 to now.

Yeah.

Like, yeah, like, like is not Mario Car Cart Deluxe?

Because that technically is just supported over game.

Not Super Smash Brothers Ultimate poured over game.

Like it's just amalgamation of all the Super Smash Brothers games put together.

So I'm like,

yeah, smash Ultimate is definitely a, uh, what the hell's it called?

Uh, super Semantic, cuz it's technically new, but they mm-hmm.

. It's very sim so, so very similar, just like models and.

Like, it's definitely like they, how do you put this?

It's like you, you made craft mac and cheese, but then like they threw in

some like Tabasco sauce, , it made some, like, made it like sp like much nicer.

They they dressed it up in gourmet . Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They, they, they tweaked it pretty heavily to make it its own, but like

the base is still Kram mac and cheese and Kram mac and cheese is delicious.

Don't get me wrong, . But uh, yeah, so se very semantics.

But that's a good question.

I mean, I mean Breath of the Wild Avi, uh, a Mario Odyssey

because think about it like this, like, uh, I can go back to the Game

Cube era and say like, oh, those were the best, the Game Cube, um, Nintendo Games.

I can go back to the Game Boy game like era.

I can go back to the 64 era.

And I'm like, those were the games that defined the defined

Nintendo during that era of like these, and there were original.

Original games.

I can't, I'm having a hard time coming up with 10 that, like, that are original

games that define the switch to where I'm like, going forward, we're gonna

remember the Switch era by these 10 games.

You

know?

So, so not only are they, um, like exclusive to the Switch, they're

also got like, they're not fodder, they're, they've gotta be monumental

and like Rene, like well Beloved kind of

status.

Yeah, I mean like, yeah cuz I'm like, if you were equivalent, and I'm not

trying to make this a console war here.

Think like, if you were thinking about like, the PS4 games, like

where their first party PS4 games.

Oh yeah, you're gonna, you come, you have a hell of a list to work with.

I'm like, oh yeah, I can think of 'em pretty quickly.

Uh, exactly off the top of your head.

I'm like, Uhhuh, you have like Ghost of Shaima just off the top of your head.

Monster

Hunter.

Well, I guess they eventually didn't they port it to the PC eventually?

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I mean like, if we're just talking about first parties though, you got

like, um, You would have Ghost Shaima, God of War, you would have Spider-Man.

Oh yeah.

Horizon Zero, Dawn.

Oh, oh yeah, . You get what I mean?

Like my point, like my point is I'm like, those were the

Oh, uncharted four A thie in

Oh yeah, you're you're a right and you're right, you're right, you're right.

I'm like, what are the games?

Oh, devil wasn't, devil may cry.

PS

it's third party, but still I'm like, it was, oh right.

Yeah.

I'm like, it was the third party game.

But like if you look at like Persona five Royal, like Persona

five Banger after Bloodborne Five, blood Born, the Last of Us Part two.

Oh my God.

You're right.

I forgot.

Blood Born was on ps4.

How did I forget that?

Exclusive to ps4, but I'm like, now, uh, go to the Switch era.

And if you can think of 10 original games that are not

just like remastered ports that.

But I like that.

I'm gonna try.

I'm

gonna try.

Yeah, I'm gonna try right now.

It's

a challenge.

Let, let's see what

you do.

Yeah, we got breath of Wild Uhhuh . We got Mar Mario.

Ossey.

Uhhuh.

. I'm gonna say smash, even though I can, we can argue about it.

We'll count it.

We'll count it.

Oh we'll.

We'll, I'll count.

Smash.

Um, uh oh.

Um.

Fucking platoon three, even though count it.

Yeah.

It's uh, platoon three, but again, it, it's essentially

platoon two, but kind of better.

It is kind of in the same smash world anyway.

Um, so that's five . Um, I know there's some people Yeah, like Pokemon with

Shield was good and I'm like, you go sit in the corner and you rethink

your life cuz you're living it wrong.

No.

Um, and we were just talking about how you can, like things that you like, what

you like and don't bring that mess here.

Uh,

I mean, but we're not, no one's gonna go back and remember and say

like, oh, Pokemon sort of shield redefined like that, that is what we define

as like the quota, central, central, like switch game, you know, switch.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, it's sold like game.

It's a tra whatever it's sold, but that's not the indication of a,

like a game that'll last a lifetime.

Mm-hmm.

. Yeah.

Man, I, I'm trying to think, uh, shit.

I got those five.

I'm trying to think of my own library.

Oh, I guess, oh no, it's a remaster.

I was gonna say the, the, I can

throw you a bone here.

Animal crossing New Horizon.

Oh, thank you.

It's gonna be on that

list.

Yeah, that's definitely, that came at the, the, the beaning of

the panda ruski at the mm-hmm.

. Just the right time.

I played the metric crap ton of it.

That was a great, yeah, that, that's definitely gonna be one.

So there's six, uh, oh.

Luigi's Mansion.

The Luigi's Mansion three.

I don't know if that's necessarily what I, I'll I'll count it just so

we can get to 10, but like Yeah.

, Eric: what?

That's like what My third bone?

Um,

yeah.

I was like, I, I don't necessarily know if like that's what people are going

to be like, oh, that was the crim de la crim of like the sweet era, you know?

Yeah.

So I

guess, I mean, here's a good indicator of like, what, what

really this question is asking.

Like even if, if I went online and I was like, top 10 games or

like, oh yeah, this, this, that.

Oh, I'm sure somebody's gonna say fucking Xeno Blade or whatever.

Um, But even then, the fact that we're struggling this hard is an indicator.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I mean, and I think like, you know, like, I think there's one thing to

be said about nostalgia, but I think there's another thing to be said by being

crippled by nostalgia to where like, yeah.

If that, and if nostalgia for you as a developer is a crutch,

then I think that's a problem.

Well, you know, like, because I, cuz when the switch first came

out, there was innovation there.

We did get like games, like arms.

Oh,

arms.

Oh.

But yeah, back to the, is it a, like No, it's

not defining the generation though, you know?

No.

Yeah.

It's really not.

I'm like, I, I liked it, but it's definitely

not, no, I'm a, it's not defining the generation.

So I'm like, it's, it's one of those things to where I'm like, what was

the original IP games that, that, not IP, but original games that defined

this generation for the switch.

Because a lot of it is just port, it's a port fest.

It really is.

It, it, and I, I mean, it's probably due.

A huge, I would say a large factor is probably the limitations of its hardware

where they like, it's really, they probably saw how much freaking money they

made with the, um, the Mario eight port.

Mm-hmm.

Cause that thing, that thing, I think

it's still the highest selling game, like

easily I was about to say.

Yeah.

I'm pretty sure it's sold way more on the switch than it did on the Weu and

they're like, mm-hmm , hold on a minute.

Why spend all this money making a new game when we can just redo what we did

and make just as much, if not more.

E Eric, I would be real with you.

That game sold more than we use, were sold in the wild.

It's like that game alone outsold the weu almost by like,

I think quadruple of the number.

That's same we we used in the wild.

That's

dude.

Holy crap man.

The Weu was such a freaking bodge.

I can't believe it.

I got one, but I mean, Jesus.

Um, wow dude.

I mean there's still some time left.

I mean, oh, I don't even, where the hell was Metro Prime in our last

direct, that's what I wanted to see.

They teased me.

They cock teased the crap out of me.

They dropped Prime the remaster.

I'm like, oh man, they dropped.

It means they're totally, and then it just went fade to black.

And I'm like, what?

What?

Uh, I have a theory they're going to do like Metro two

and three and then give you four.

Damn dude by that time, like, alright, if that's really

what they're doing, I think they're gonna play the long card.

I think they're gonna do what they did.

Breath of the wild and the weu and the switch where they're like,

they just switch.

That'll be the, the game for the new console basically.

Yes, sir.

I think, uh, it'll release for switch at a lower power and, um, but to sell it,

they're like, Hey, you know that game that you've been wanting for like eight

years, it's here with a shiny new console.

Yeah.

Sounds, that sounds like Nintendo

. Sebastion: Yeah.

They, they're like, we got that and then we got Mario Odyssey

too for you that come back.

Yes.

I, um, I, I thought that's what was, um, showing up when they

were showing the Pickman four.

Mm-hmm.

, which is, um, I mean, that might be a pretty huge game on the switch, but.

That time will tell, but when they were showing the, the beginning of that,

I, I thought it was Mario Odyssey too.

Um, who start out in space and stuff.

It

does kind of look like that.

It gives that vibe.

It's just, yeah.

You, you mentioned Pigman, and I don't wanna like crap all over the Pigman fans,

but like Pigman never has seemed like a, a tier like franchise for Nintendo.

Like Yeah, it's always been that c or B tier where like, yeah.

It,

it just never caught its footing as, as hard as the rest.

No.

Like, it, it seems to be a, a solid quality game.

I've never played one and I want to, that's why I'm, I'm actually,

I've pretty excited for it.

I've heard only good things, um, but obviously like case in point, I've

never been drawn so hard to be like, I need to go buy that and play that.

It's been like, I'll get around.

Yeah.

It's almost like, you know, like you go into like, um, I, I'm not big club

person, but like, if you go into like a club, like, uh, it's allowed in

the, the Nintendo Club, but it's not allowed in the v i p section, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

, Eric: uh, like, Hey, you

You gotta pay for your drinks.

Yeah, exactly.

You gotta pay for your drinks.

. Sebastion: Exactly.

And then all the Marios just walk in and they're, and

they're like, Mario, you know?

Yeah.

They, he gets bottle service in the corner and such

like that.

The velvet rope thing mm-hmm.

Goes way up for him.

Yoshi Peach.

Oh yeah.

Did you catch that?

Um, the promo, the, the Mario Brothers promo thing for the movie.

Oh.

Where they actually had the

music for a Margo?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, dude, I played that on so like, so many times that it looks good.

It looks good.

I'm like, it looks good.

I was a, I was a na, I'll admit it.

I had very low hopes for the idea of Illumination doing a

Mario movie, but it's so far.

Everything I've seen, I'm just like, I'm sold.

I'm, I'll watch this.

I mean, you're, I'm pretty happy.

Uh, I'm, I'm impressed.

Uh, I something about that trailer and then like the lady like squinting

and shaking her head as she read it.

Read it in like a Brooklyn ish accent.

I was like, hell yeah, that is, that's fricking Mario.

So, uh, I'm pretty excited for that, but yeah.

Yeah, it looks good.

Good.

About Mario Baldwin.

I think that's how I got there.

, . Sebastion: What other games are

Um,

right now I am thinking, so I'm really looking forward

to, in the indie sphere, I'm looking forward to Sea of Stars.

Like that game looks amazing, looks really good.

Um, I'm looking forward to.

She's, I mean, of course, who isn't looking forward to Silk Song.

I'm really looking forward to this little thing called Lucid.

I hear that game's fucking awesome.

I hear good things.

I hear only I, I hear the pixel Art is next level . I

hear the world's really cool.

I hear the movement, mobility options look pretty tight.

I hear if you like world building and, uh, good art assets and a really

cool story with a colorful cast of characters, you should really check out.

That game seems pretty pretty.

Hold

on, hold on, hold on.

No, I asked about games coming this year.

Are you trying to drop some inform information that Lucid

might be coming out this

year?

Oh my God, I, I walked right into that one.

I'm gonna do a hard pivot and say I plead the fifth.

Exactly.

Exactly, exactly.

I just had to give you some shit there.

, Eric: uh, games this year, um, I

that, um, that Pinocchio Lizza,

Lizza p Yeah, that's, that's this year.

Is that this

year?

Mm-hmm.

. Dude, like, I mean, that looks really good.

I mean, if it's even like, if it even does a shade of what, how much

I like bloodborne, I'll be happy.

Um, and so far it looks really good.

So plus it's got like that Pinocchio darkness is mm-hmm.

, I, I just watched that Gimo del Toro, um, Pinocchio, and that was awesome.

Um, so Pinocchio is completely capable of being dark and serious.

And so I'm, I'm very much looking forward to that, to towards forward for, oh my

God, , I'm looking towards that world.

Is that what I'm trying to say anyway?

Mm-hmm.

that on top of, um, it's kind of got some megaman X or megaman vibes in

the sense that like, you're, you're an, an like, you're a robot thing with

like looking for the doctor, like Dr.

Light.

I, I was.

And then it looks like you, um, take pieces of your enemies.

Like some of the attacks look like your arms would like change out.

So I was speculating and May, I'm pretty sure others were speculating that you can

like, take pieces of maybe the bosses, you get like different weapons that way.

Kind of like secur in a weird way.

Um, so another shade of mega man where like you get boss

parts in your own arsenal.

I don't know.

I I'm looking forward to that

game.

I am too.

I am too.

Um, it, yeah, it has like, um, like devil may cry meets like bloodborne

meets, like Yeah, like you were saying, like mega man kind of vibes and Yeah.

It's like this amalgamation of all these different like ips that, that all

seem like they wouldn't kind of work together, but this trailer and the,

what we've seen at the gameplay makes it look like this is actually gonna slap.

So, totally.

I'm looking forward to the last.

. Eric: Mm-hmm.

. Um, what else is, and then kind of, uh, pretty much the other

big ones are, uh, I'm looking forward to playing Pickman four.

I'm looking forward to, you're actually gonna play it.

Yeah, I think so.

Cuz I've always been wanting to, and with the whole Thursday streams, we,

I have an excuse to like, actually get to sit down and play some games,

so, uh, I mean, uh, the question mark, I, I would love to play it.

Um, and then also in that same slot is, uh, I want to play Minish Gap.

I want to play, um, I've been trying to get my buddy to play old Kirby

Superstar and the closest right now is, um, I think it's called Cursed Mirror.

Mm-hmm.

. Shit, I can't remember.

They, they did one on the game Boy, that was essentially superstar,

like plus, so I'm looking forward to playing that with him.

Oh.

Um, I'm even looking forward to that, um, that Mickey Metroidvania,

that it looks different.

It

looks really good.

Yeah.

It, it looks just like silly fun with four people playing.

Like we, we would do a multiplayer stream with like

other community members and stuff.

It just looks like it'd be fun.

Uh, so yeah, those are the things that I can think of off top of the dome.

It reminds me of, um, um, Rayman legends.

Yes.

Like the gameplay of it.

That's what reminds me of,

yeah.

Between the, um, the, the flow.

It, I, I made the joke online.

It looks like it's, uh, baby, uh, baby's first met.

Yeah.

That's what it looks like.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But like, not in a derogatory sense.

Like if it's done well, it's done well and I, I'll, I'll play it.

It looks fun.

Yeah.

So I'm gonna read out some titles and you tell me yay or nay based on like

whether or not you're gonna play 'em.

Okay.

All right.

So Tears to the Kingdom.

I already note.

That's a yay for you.

That's a yay.

All right.

St.

Wars Jedi survivor.

Is that

the sequel?

Yeah, that's the, that's sequels the fallen

order.

Okay.

And that's the one where the, the Dark Souls?

Uh, star Wars.

Yeah.

With, um, Cal Kassis.

The right, the redhead.

Got it, got it.

Got it.

Mm-hmm.

, uh, that's gonna be a Yay cuz I didn't play the first one.

Oh, no, no, I know.

Uh, my buddy who I've mentioned before, uh, Aaron, uh, my streaming

partner, um, he's played it and he's a huge dark souls nut like I am.

And, uh, he, like, he had critiques of it, but he's like, it was solid.

Mm-hmm.

, and I'm sure they took all the critiques and hopefully they ironed it out.

So I'm looking forward to testing out the polished version, you know.

Okay.

That's a yay.

That's a yay for me.

All right.

Starfield from Xbox

Starfield, uh, that's not ringing a bell.

It's, oh.

, is that the No Man sky type thing?

Yes.

That's what everyone's equate out to be.

Got

it, got it, got it.

I, I, I think I've seen some.

I, I don't, I'm not familiar enough to give it a yay Renee, but just

on the premise alone, I'll give

it

a yay.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

So, um, let's go with, um, Marles Spider.

Spider-Man two.

Oh, that's a yay.

Easy.

Yay for me too.

No, that's a easy, easy.

Yay.

All right, so you already played The Dead Space remake.

Are you going to play Resonate before remake?

Oh, yeah.

That's a

hard yay for sure.

. The older I've get, the more I realize I love, like, the horror,

uh, horror games or like, good horror games, so that's a huge yay.

All right,

so, um,

oh, on top of which I never played the first one.

What Rein Evil, or, I've never played

Resi four.

Okay.

I haven't either.

So this is my first entry into it.

Mm mm mm-hmm.

. All right, so Final Fantasy 16.

. Eric: That's, that's a yay.

Okay.

Uh, uh, I love Final Fantasy.

I, I'm also, I'm a big fan of the, um, like the, the Sword and

Shield kind of final fantasies.

The medieval style.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

. Like, I, I definitely, I like that more.

Not to say like, if, if Final Fantasy seven s s tier in that

whole mid guard world is S tier.

I, I just love fantasy so much.

Uh, it's SS tier, like I'm not shitting on the other one at all.

It is so good.

I just like the fantastical nature kind of stuff.

I gotta understand that.

All right.

So we already know Hollow Night silk song is gonna be easy.

Yess easy.

Yes.

Easy.

Yes.

Um, Diablo,

I think we might have, we may have stumbled on our first Nay for me dogs.

I

understand.

I'm right there with you.

I don't think I'm gonna jump into Diablo.

Yeah, I, um, I've been.

I mean, are we looking for reasons why, or, I mean, you can

it's open forum.

You can do, you can say why you don't like it.

All right.

So yeah.

Um, I feel less bad shitting on aaas, I'll put it that way.

. . Um, so yeah, I'm between three being, I, I got into three and it was just,

uh, there was such a fucking debacle on launch and it took forever to find

their stride on top of just blizzard.

I don't know, they've just have been unimpressive to me lately.

And then, um, what they did show was just like, yeah, that looks sort of

like, what di I would expect a diallo, nothing caught me as like, oh, wow.

It was just like, oh, that looks like extended d l with

prettier graphics, I suppose.

I don't know.

It's just, I'm right there with.

, nothing, nothing about it.

Then, then that whole like, phone thing and it was just so Aw, that was rough.

Mm-hmm.

. Yeah.

It was just like, is that real?

And I could go on, but, uh, everything they've been doing

left the sour Tyson in my mouth.

And then to come out with something that's so like, blah, like, all right,

I can put Easy pass until my buddy who plays literally everything, uh,

is like, yo, you got to play this.

Uh, then I'll play it until then, I'm just like, ah, there's so many other

things that you li literally just listed that I, I had can devote my time to.

Okay.

Okay.

Sing Saga Hail Blade two.

Sing

Saga hell by two.

Wait, is that, that a sequel to the

Yeah, the, um, singing sacrifice

Shit.

Is that the, is that the game with the, the lady protagonist

with like face paints?

Yeah.

The, yeah.

Mm-hmm.

. Okay.

I, I, I never played the first one.

Uh, it is gonna be, that's gonna be a note only because I didn't play the first one.

I know nothing about

it.

I gotcha, I gotcha.

And it, would it make you feel like it would be a yay if I told you

it's coming day one, a game pass?

I don't have Z game pass.

Oh, okay.