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Why You Have To Take Action Before You Can Feel Better!
Episode 1318th September 2025 • The Daily Podcast with Jonathan Doyle • Jonathan Doyle
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I always tell people that if you wait to feel like doing the hard things that you need to do then you could be waiting a very long time. IN today's episode I want to talk with you about why you need to take action first and then, in time, the feelings will follow.

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Well, hello there my friend.

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It is Jonathan Doyle with you.

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Welcome to the Daily Podcast.

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It is good to be with you.

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Oh boy.

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It's below zero again, outside.

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I'm in the studio.

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It is warm.

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But I tell you what, well, just looking forward to, uh, looking forward

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to some serious spring and summer here in the Southern Hemisphere.

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If you're on Instagram, make sure you come and say hello.

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Uh, to me at, uh, j Doyle speaks.

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Why?

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Because, uh, you'll see what I get up to each day.

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Yesterday I play golf every day and, uh, trust me, I work, I start every

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day around 3:30 AM 4:00 AM but I play golf in the afternoons and yesterday on

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Instagram, you could see me out there.

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Uh, playing some golf, and the sun was good.

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It was glorious, but today it has returned to below zero.

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So let us press on my friend with resilience in the face.

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Of these environmental hardships that, uh, that, uh, can upset the ship of our

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life on the stormy seas of its journey.

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Everyone's like, my gosh, how much coffee have you had?

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All right, listen, I got something good for you today.

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Something really good.

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Yesterday we've been talking about, um.

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You know, with some great quotes from Karen Horney, and today I am sharing with

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you some, uh, really interesting quote from a guy called Harry Stack Sullivan,

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and one of these just jumped out at me.

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People always say, how do you manage to do like 365 podcasts episodes a year?

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How do you find content?

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Well, a lot of the time, life just jumps out at me and

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suggests something that's useful.

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Something that I won't even wanna share with you and hope is a blessing to you.

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And then I often just, uh, have a real interest in what some of the great

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men and women and thinkers have had to say, and hopefully try and distill

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that in a way that you can use.

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And today this one jumped out at me.

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I wanna share it with you.

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Let's unpack it briefly and send you on your way.

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So Harry Stack Sullivan.

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Uh, this psychotherapist had this to say it is easier to act

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yourself into a new way of feeling.

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Then to feel yourself into a new way of acting.

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One more time.

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It is easier to act yourself into a new way of feeling than to feel

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yourself into a new way of acting.

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There is a lot in this.

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I have been saying to people for many, many years, if you wait, if you wait

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around, if your criteria for action is, I will do X when I feel like it.

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Then you can often be waiting an extremely long time, if not permanently, and you'll

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discover that the important things that you say you want in your life will not be

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happening because you've been unable to take action because you've been waiting

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for these feelings to happen first.

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So.

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I'm thinking of someone like Mel Robinson whose five second rule.

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You know, you may have come across that concept of activation energy, that so much

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of the time you will simply not feel like doing whatever it is that you need to do,

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but you've just gotta make yourself take that first step and then things follow.

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So listen to this again.

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It's easier to act yourself into a new way of feeling than to feel

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yourself into a new way of acting.

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So I'll give you an example.

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Like let's just say you're really depressed and you know you don't wanna

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go anywhere and nobody wants you to do anything, and you just absolutely.

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You know, you just wanna be sitting on the couch and it's all too much,

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but a friend manages to drag you out because the team that you both follow

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is playing in a final and you're like, no, I don't want to go out.

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I just, you know, and you're sitting there thinking, well, if I, if I felt like it,

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if I really, if I was feeling better, then I'd go, but you don't go right.

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But they drag you out.

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And if they finally make you get to the stadium and you sit there and,

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and you're like, oh, fine, I'll go if I have to, just to make you happy.

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And you're sitting there and the crowd's getting excited, and then the game gets

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more tense and you're sitting there and you're like, just, oh, this is ridiculous.

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Why did I even come?

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But it gets down to the last few seconds.

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Then the scores are tired.

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But just with like two seconds to go, your team wins.

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The stadium erupts, and then you get swept up and you stand up and you're like, yes.

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And you're like, I say to people, imagine what are you doing at that moment?

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And the people, what do you mean what am I doing?

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Well, think about that thought experiment.

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What would you be doing?

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At that moment, they're like, well, you know, my hands are in the air and

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I'm excited and I'm hugging strangers.

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And the point is that it's extremely difficult to be depressed at that moment.

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Why?

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Because your entire physiology has shifted.

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This is an extreme example, right?

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Like you could say, well, I could still be depressed.

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Yeah, I know you could be, but it'd be harder, right?

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Just work with me on this example.

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But it's this feeling of being swept up and your body moves differently and

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your breathing patterns are different, and your face changes and you're

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interacting with other people, and all of a sudden your feeling state is

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dramatically shifted because of the way that you have physiologically acted,

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and this is the point that he's making.

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It's easier to act yourself into a new way of feeling.

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Then to feel yourself into a new way of acting.

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I remember years ago when I wrote my first book, I, I talked about how I would be up

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early and I was cycling at a pretty high level, and I'd be out every day on the

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bike with a group of very good athletes.

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And if I was ever feeling flat or down like at 4:00 AM or 5:00 AM or things

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were hard in life, I found that once I was out on the ride and we were really

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going for it, and you're out in nature and it was sunny and you'd feel better

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and you'd have a coffee with people.

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I just come away from it feeling phenomenal.

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Now, I hadn't thought my way into a better mental state.

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I hadn't gone.

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Okay, Jonathan.

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You know, if I'd been sitting in a room and tried to force my mental state into

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something different, it'd be harder.

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But physiologically I'd acted myself into a different way of feeling.

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So listen to it one more time.

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It's easy to act yourself into a new way of feeling, then to feel

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yourself into a new way of acting.

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So quick summary.

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If you wait to feel a certain way to do the things that are important to

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you, you will be waiting a long time.

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You just will.

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So.

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What's crucial here is that we, we begin, we sort of get this basic principle

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that there are plenty of times that if you want better results, you are

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gonna have to act first and feel later.

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Act first, and feel later.

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And I don't know about you, but here is where you're gonna get stuck

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because I think when we try to do this, we feel stupid, we feel silly.

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Like, you know, there's this gap between what we feel emotionally and

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what we need to do physically and.

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For so many of us, the this sort of mental state wins out.

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I'm not doing, that's ridiculous.

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You know, it's like every time there's a wedding or something

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like, well, I'm not gonna dance.

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It's stupid.

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Everyone looks stupid.

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I was just thinking about this yesterday.

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We had some friends, had a, had a, one of the kids got married a few six

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months ago, and I just got into it.

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Like as far as I'm concerned, I was like Michael Jackson out there.

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I was just tearing that dance floor apart and it's like.

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If I'd sat there and waited to, you know, I just had to do it.

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I just get up, you know, and I'm married to someone, Karen, who's just the

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most phenomenal dancer, so that always makes it hard 'cause she's so good.

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But I'm like, I'm just gonna rip it and just got up there and got into it.

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And once you start, once you start getting out there and moving, you

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know, you're up there with a bunch of other completely uncoordinated

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people and you're all good, right?

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You're off.

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But often it's this lag, isn't it?

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I don't wanna, I don't wanna do that.

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Why should I have to do that?

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I feel miserable.

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Yeah, I know you feel miserable, but do you want, how long do

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you wanna feel miserable for?

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Another hour, a week, a month, the rest of your life?

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So I, I think Mel Robbins is right here on this activation energy that, that

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sometimes you just gotta start, you just gotta go for the walk or, you know, do the

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exercise or play the guitar or sing the song or do the thing that gets you into

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the mental state that you need to be into.

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And I, I just wish this was different 'cause I get that this is hard.

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It's hard for me.

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Like to go, I don't wanna feel this way.

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I need to change how I'm feeling.

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I need to do these things, and the feelings will follow.

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All right, so practice this.

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If you're feeling flat, if you're feeling anxious, if you're feeling

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unsure and you need to feel a different way, then understand that

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the kind of fake it till you make it.

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Idea is partially true, that sometimes you are gonna have to act

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first, believe first, move first, and then the feelings will follow.

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All right?

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So hopefully, can you find a practical way to apply that?

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Is there summary in your life where you're not doing what you need to do?

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Then please, if you just take one thing from today's message, it's simply that if

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you wait to feel the way you need to feel to do the thing you need to do, you could

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be waiting much longer than you wanna be.

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And you're better off just going, well, this is hard, this is scary.

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But I'm just gonna act and hopefully the feelings will

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follow and I believe they will.

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All right.

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Is that useful?

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I hope there's something in there just to help you to do this, and it's scary,

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but this is the price we pay, right?

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Yesterday's episode, the price of admission, right?

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The price that we pay to an uncommon life is to do these difficult

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things, so I. Here's something difficult I need you to do.

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God bless you my friend.

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I hope that's been useful.

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Get out there, act first.

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Feelings of follow.

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You got this and you and I are gonna talk again tomorrow.

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