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WEEK 46 [HOSEA 1–6; 10–14; JOEL]
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WEEK 46 [HOSEA 1–6; 10–14; JOEL]

“I Will Love Them Freely”

November 7 – November 13

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Welcome back everybody.

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This is week 46 of Creative.

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Come follow me for the Old Testament, and I hope you're

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ready for a few career falls.

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This week we have shifted into a new part of the Bible.

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This is what they call the minor prophets, which just means

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there's a whole bunch of profits.

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I think we'll do 12 back to back, and they're a little bit shorter

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than some of the profits we've studied so far, and they just have.

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Distinct personalities.

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This week we're covering Hosea and Joel, and I don't know about you

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guys, but I hadn't studied Hosea in depth before this, and I was.

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At first, kind of shocked and then intrigued, and then I came too low Hosea.

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So a couple things you should know about Hose Jose and Joel.

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First Hosea is a prophet to the Northern Kingdom.

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We don't have a lot of those prophets, at least we don't

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have a lot of those writings.

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So this is kind of unique and we've gone back in time like

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back to Second King's time.

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Josea is a prophet in the North around the same time that Isaiah

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is a prophet in the South.

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So if that helps you kind of wrap your head around.

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What timeframe we're working with.

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Uh, his message is similar to Isaiah's in that it's all about, you know,

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how they need to set aside idolatry and how there is trouble coming.

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Remember, this is right before the scattering, before the 10 tribes are lost.

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And I get the feeling that Jose is a bit of a hail Mary pass.

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You know, it's this last effort to try and salvage what is

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left of that northern kingdom.

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And it's, um, it's an interesting way to.

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Do it.

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I think because it's a Hail Mary pass, the Lord teaches in

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a different and distinct way.

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Jose's life will basically be an object lesson and we'll watch it play out

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and it'll first kind of catch you off guard and then you'll sort of love it.

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So I look forward to that one.

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Joel is similar in that he has a similar message of to avoid idolatry, but

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we have no reference point for Joel.

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In fact, it's kind of fascinating.

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You know how no man knoweth the Dan or the hour when the savior will

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come again for that second coming, Most of Joel's message is about the

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time before the second coming, so I think it's kind of cool that the book

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of Joel actually has no timeframes.

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You don't have a king that's announced or any kind of timestamp on it, so

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we don't really know when Joel lived.

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We do know that he was a prophet to the south and that he's gonna

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try and prepare people for what is coming, but not just in their time.

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Also way down the road.

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So it's something that we.

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Take heart.

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In it's messages that Peter used, he quoted Joel also the Angel Morona when

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he comes to Joseph Smith will quote Joel, These are pertinent scriptures

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that you don't wanna miss, so this is a good week to dive into the notes.

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In fact, if you're not part of the course and you're hearing this, instead

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of watching it, if you're on the public podcast this week because of

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the number of chapters we have, I'm actually gonna add a link to the notes

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in the description of the podcast.

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So those of you who are coming from elsewhere can at least get your

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bearings because you guys, we have a ton of chapters this week and I won't

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be able to go very deep in the videos or the podcast, but I went pretty deep

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in the notes and give you a lot of quotes from the general authorities

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to help you understand this doctrine.

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Cuz what I would tell you is, At first glance, this isn't gonna feel like

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it applies to you in almost any way.

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At least that's how I felt when I first read it, and then when I came

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back to it once and twice and a third time, and I feathered in doctrine

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that I've learned from just this last conference and ideas I got when

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I was teaching in my other calling.

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Things started to click together.

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I started to see the savior in so many more places in this week's chapters

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than I did when I first began.

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So in the notes, hopefully you'll get a feel for that, and if it will

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help you in your study to see the savior, I hope you open 'em up.

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But otherwise, grab your scriptures and let's get started.

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You guys.

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To be totally honest, the first time I read through these first three

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chapters of Josea, I was not a fan.

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. I, I studied them briefly in the past, but this is one where I felt

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like I needed to go in deeper and.

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I just didn't like it.

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I don't like what's asked, but I found myself feeling those same

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feelings for hose josea that I felt for Abraham, that I even felt for

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Nephi when he had to kill Labban.

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Like you can see the conflict of commandments and it's a, it's a

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hard thing to wrap your head around.

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What happens with Hosea is he is asked to take a wife of Hortons.

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His whole life will become a metaphor for that.

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Basically what Isaiah taught to the Southern Kingdom.

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Isaiah taught that in that metaphor of the bridegroom, that Jesus or Jehovah

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is the groom, and that the children of Israel are the bride and they are in

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this covenant relationship, just like we talked about before with President

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Nelson's message about covenants defining relationships, and then it means a tight

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bond, and there is simply no tighter bond than this covenant of marriage.

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In addition to it typifying that I think it's also something

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that every person, no matter.

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What rank or file of person you are in Jose's time, You understand this

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level of commitment and the betrayal that will come, the pain and the hurt

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that would come from the betrayal.

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So I, I feel like that's part of the reason why Hosea is

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asked to live this kind of life.

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I also think it has something to do with Josea being a type of Christ.

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But I gotta tell you, this understanding didn't come to me for

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the first couple times I read it.

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It didn't actually hit me until I was teaching my Ysa class.

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And this week we've spoke all about the condescension of Christ and how

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he chose to descend to live among.

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Mortals so that he could be the savior that we needed him to be.

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Not just that he came here, but that he lived like we live, and all that process

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of condescension and what it means.

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Once I started speaking about that in my ysa class, understandings

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about Jose clicked into place, I see him as a type of Christ because he

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is basically someone who was asked to do an incredibly hard thing to.

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To commit himself to someone who he knew would not be faithful,

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someone who he knew was.

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Not ready for the commitment, the same way the Savior committed to us and

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committed to the children of Israel knowing that we are fallen and that we

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will make mistakes, and that he chose to love us anyway and chose to stay with us

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anyway, if you watch for that message in the chapters as we weave through them.

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I think new ideas will come your way.

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At least they did for me.

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Uh, but I think they're gonna be unique to each of you.

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So I, I would watch for those types of Christ moments as you read

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through Jose's story, and hopefully new things will pop into your mind.

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In chapter one, you're gonna see him take this wife, her name's Gomer,

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and then they'll have three children.

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It's not clear whether these are actually Jose's biological children or if she

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wanders even at this stage of their marriage, and if these are someone

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else's, but the names of the children are indicative of the prophecies that

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are coming, that the northern tribes are gonna be scattered, that they're not

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gonna be able to have the mercy that they.

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Could have had in the past and that they will no longer be called God's children.

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All of those things are woven into their names, and it's a pretty powerful message,

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especially as you jump into what you find in chapter two in the Hebrew language,

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Idolatry and adultery actually drive from that same root word, and you see these.

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You know, parallel tracks as you see Jose's story.

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Essentially what will happen is his wife will stray.

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If you go on the Come Follow Me Manual, it talks about her unfaithfulness

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and how he typifies what we see in Christ because he is directed to.

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Bring her back.

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In fact, chapter two is a bit of an invitation from Lord to come back.

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It's hard to see when it's actually Jose is speaking to his wife versus

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when it's the Lord speaking to Israel.

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But again, I think those metaphors are supposed to blend into each other.

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So if you get to points where you can't tell which one is which, I

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think that's actually instructive.

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Uh, this is in incredibly poignant.

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Useful metaphor, and you'll see it bubble to the surface in chapter two.

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This is when they're directed to call his people with.

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Call them again my people.

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So this is almost a reversal of the names that we just heard and talk

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about how they will obtain mercy.

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And then there's this invitation of how to obtain it.

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So in two, it talks about pleading with your mother that she is not my wife.

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Remember this is.

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There's no covenant anymore.

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There's no promise between them.

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So he's, the Lord is inviting the children of Israel to make covenants

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again and to come back to him.

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Let her therefore put away her HTOMs out of her sight, her adulteries from between

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her breasts, lest I strip or naked, and set her as in the day that she was born.

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That message, I think, is a message of.

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, you're gonna go back to how you were.

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If you choose not to be a participant in this covenant, in this close

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relationship with God, you are exposed.

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You are vulnerable.

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If you choose not to use the atonement of Jesus Christ, you are.

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Vulnerable and exposed, and that's what he's trying to teach them.

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They are opening themselves up to danger.

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That's scattering and the Assyrians taking over it.

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That's gonna be a bloody awful phase for the Jews and it's right

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around the corner and Jose is trying to help them understand that.

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And does it by talking about these lovers.

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So again, when you see those words about adultery, think of idolatry cuz that's

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what the children of Israel are doing.

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So it talks about this wife who shamefully goes after other lovers.

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I, it's interesting, it's in verse five, it says, I will go after my lovers that

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give me my bread and my water, my wool, and my flax, my oil, and my drink.

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This personification of a woman who is seeking after other

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pleasures is really instructive.

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I think we all tend to do this at times, right?

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Where we know where we should turn and instead we seek after.

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Other sources of pleasure, other sources of gratification, and it never yields

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the fruit we hope it will, right?

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Cuz Edness never was happiness and that's what she learns really quickly.

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What I think is really interesting is what you see in six.

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It says, therefore, behold, I will hedge up all the way up with thorns and make a

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wall that she shall not find her paths.

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And I think the Lord oftentimes can.

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Prevent our agency, but he certainly will make hedges.

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You almost picture like a bowling lane with those bumpers up.

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I think we do this as parents all the time where we can see our kids veering down

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roads, that we know where they lead and we can't necessarily stop them, especially

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as they get to those older teenage years.

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But you create a lot of hedges, you, you know, put filters on

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their phones and set time limits.

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Because you want to create hedges to help them avoid that inevitable end.

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And that's what I see in these verses as well.

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I love also what you see in seven.

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And she shall follow after her lovers, but she shall not overtake them.

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She shall seek them, but shall not find them.

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And then she will say, I will go and return to my first husband.

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For then it was better with me.

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It was better than, than with me.

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Now this is, you know, like the prodigal son, but in female form where.

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She seeks pleasure and happiness in all the wrong places and

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ultimately gets to a point where she realizes she needs to go back.

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She didn't find what she was looking for, which is that point that all of us get

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to when we go down those wrong roads.

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What I love is what you find in eight for, She did not know that I

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gave her corn and wine and oil and multiplied your silver, silver, and

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gold, which they prepared for bas.

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This is.

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He's basically trying to teach the children of Israel that during all

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this time when they turned away from Jehovah, he was blessing them.

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The whole promised land is a great blessing towards them, and

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they're taking those blessings, not appreciating the fact that they're

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coming from Jehovah and they're actually using them for false gods.

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They're turning them into other things to worship, and you hear the Lord.

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Frustration with their choices.

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It just sounds like a parent to me who provides, you know, if you ever had that

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situation where you took your kid's phone away and you're like, I provide you and

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I pay for this incredible thing, and then you used it for this, you know, you

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just, you can feel that frustration in him and he calls them on it basically.

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So in these verses you see his judgment come about to the children of.

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And how they forgot the Lord.

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So in 13, she went after her lovers, she and forgot me,

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say it the Lord, and then 14.

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Therefore, behold I will allure her.

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I thought this was a fascinating shift in the chapter he offers to.

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Gently coax them back to discipleship.

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He will speak comfortably to her.

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I do think this is the same kind of comfort we read about in Isaiah.

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I don't think this means he's gonna talk really nice and

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make the doctrine sound good.

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I think this is the kind of comfort that, Remember we talked about

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Rocky and the coaching that happened with Rocky, that kind of comfort.

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that's what he's offering, is I'm gonna come to your aid and

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I'm gonna be in your corner.

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Despite all the betrayal, I will be in your camp.

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Let me help you.

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Uh, because he offers this door of hope in 15, and then when you go a

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little further, you see that later, much later after the scattering, he

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will also patrol them to him again.

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These are prophecies about the last day.

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It's important because traditionally speaking, when people are this wicked,

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In fact, Jesus himself talks about how at this stage they were almost as

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bad as they were at the time of Noah.

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That's how off course they are.

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But he promises not to destroy them.

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He's made promises to their fathers, to the patriarchs and the matriarchs

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that he will look after their children.

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And so he promises that the covenant will return, but it's gonna take some time.

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I loved that message that in fact, it's a pervasive message in

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almost all the chapters this week.

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It's.

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Promise of mercy, this promise of forgiveness, and it's gonna hold

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the children of Israel steady.

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I also think it's powerful.

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AC in 20, he says, I will even bet betray the unto me in faithfulness

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and thou shalt know the Lord.

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The end goal of all of this.

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Is not just that the Lord will have his people back, it's that they will know him.

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I think that's what President Nelson was trying to teach us when he talked

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about a covenant being a relationship.

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That our goal with these covenants and honoring our standards and, you know,

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keeping the commandments and honoring our temple covenants is a way to come to

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know the Lord in an intimate, personal way, and that's what he's promising.

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Children of the latter days that will come back to the covenant.

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Uh, if you look in 23, you see the promise and I will sow her unto me

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in the earth and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy.

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And I will say to them that we're not my people.

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That aren't my people.

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And they shall say that, aren't my God.

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It's gonna be a long time coming.

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They're gonna have incredible.

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Loss in the meantime, but there is this ultimate message of hope that

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there will be a reunion, that that's what the great gathering is all about.

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It's us allowing this great reunion to happen and it's prophesied

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all the way back in Jose two.

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There's another twist in Jose three.

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This is where Jose Jose's directed to, to buy his wife back.

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She's already.

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Been unfaithful to him and gone astray and not appreciated the gifts he was

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given or the, the love he extended to her.

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She's already done all those things and in chapter three,

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he's directed to buy her back.

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Makes you think that maybe she, In fact, a lot of the scholars I read

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said that she probably was sold into some type of slavery based on her life

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choices, and he goes and purchases her back because he purchases.

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So little money that it makes you think that she must have been in

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a slave type situation and then he brings her home and there's a period

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of kind of keeping her away from all those influences she's had and.

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And a time of holding back.

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Again, I think this is a metaphor for the children of Israel where there will

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be a time when they don't have access.

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In fact, if you look in the verses, it sort of says that blatantly in four,

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that there will be a time where they're without a king, without a prince,

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without sacrifice, or without the temple.

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They won't have the eph od that pouch that they used to hold the yeman thumb.

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They won't have access to revelation like they did in the past.

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He's talking about this, the period.

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Consequence that happens both in the actual image of goer and

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also in the children of Israel.

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But then as always, it talks about a return.

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So if you end in verse five, it talks about Israel will

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return and seek the Lord.

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When Israel shifts gears, the relationship is ignited again.

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The same way when goer turns to hose josea, that

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relationship becomes tight again.

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It's this incredible promise.

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I think what caught.

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in this chapter is this understanding that sometimes we are commanded to

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love people who are hard to love.

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I, I think all of us have those situations that a big part of our life's goal is to.

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Learn to see people the way the savior sees them, so that that difficulty in

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love gets easier and easier over time.

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Everybody has somebody that's really hard sometimes, a lot of people that are

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hard, but when you choose to love them anyway, or you choose to love the Lord

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and let him help you learn how to love them, I think you become more Christ-like.

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I think for most of us, learning how to love the people that are hard in our life

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or learning how to forgive those who have.

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Against us in some way.

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Those are some of the moments that are the most humbling, most instructive.

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There.

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There is power in that hard, and I think that's what we're learning

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from Jose's story in this chapter that, that we each might be in this

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spot where we're commanded to love and forgive in a hard situation.

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And when we choose to do it, there's power.

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One of the things that's kind of scary about our day is that truth seems sort

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of relative in the world we live in, that everybody sort of defines their own

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truth and or proclaims that there is no truth, and I feel like chapter four helps

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you understand where that road goes.

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Basically, that's what's happening with the children of Israel at this point.

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If you look in verse one, it says There is no truth.

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Nor mercy nor knowledge of God in the land.

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I think it's interesting that pairing of those three things, that when there is

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no truth, all of a sudden there is no.

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Loving kindness.

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There is no mercy cuz there's no sin.

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It's like those verses in the Book of Mormon and then

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there's no knowledge of God.

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So these people that once had this profound connection, this Abraham Covenant

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with Jehovah have set all of that aside.

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In fact, if you look in six that says, my people are destroyed for the

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lack of knowledge because that has rejected knowledge, I will reject.

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Joseph Smith taught this really clearly that a man can only be saved

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according to the knowledge he acquires.

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Nobody can be saved in ignorance, so that's what's happening here.

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They're setting aside all of it, and verse seven teaches you that they were already

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increased, so their accountability.

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Is higher.

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I think it's the same thing that's happening with us and the standards.

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You know, when you look at the, for the strength of the youth, it's teaching

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you that your accountability is higher.

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A lot of people saw it as like this relaxing of the standards, but I really

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don't think that's what the message is.

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The message is, I trust you because you know more, and when you know more, you're

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accountable to God more profoundly.

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So you have some big choices to make and they continually.

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Turn back to idols.

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You can tell why they do inverse eight, that in some instances their

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own teachers and priests of the temple are persuading them to sin.

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Things have to be pretty bad to get to the spot, but basically if they sin,

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they would have to make a sin offering at the temple, which would give more

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meat to the priests who served there.

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So the priests who.

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There were so corrupt that they were trying to convince people to sit in

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order to get more for themselves.

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And it reminded me of this conversation I had with my brother-in-law, Troy.

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So he runs an urgent care, several of them up in Idaho.

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And he was talking about how if he really wanted to boost his business,

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he would give out trampolines as a prize to all the families in his city,

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, because then business would boom.

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And I think it's that same kind of idea that they, they are

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manipulating the doctrine of God.

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They are manipulating.

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They are changing the boundaries and changing the laws in order

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to benefit themselves, and that that's a level of wickedness

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that God won't tolerate for long.

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I also think in this chapter, it's really interesting to see that when

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there is no truth, people turn towards.

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Other explanations.

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They write their own narrative and a lot of it comes in superstition.

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So they turn to weird idols.

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If you look in 12, their stocks and their staff, those are different kinds of idols.

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They sacrifice on mountain tops.

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They, they don't abandon this idea that there is a higher power.

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They just have warped it so much that it.

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Help them anymore.

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They have, they've created this counterfeit for what is real

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and it just simply can't last.

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In fact, as you go th further in the verses, you see that right

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now this is impacting the North.

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Jose is teaching the northern tribes and they're gonna get scattered really

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soon, but a hundred years from now, it's gonna happen in Judah as well.

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And so Hosea actually teaches both of those things before

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you get to the end of chapter.

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A message of backsliding Israel continues into chapter five and you see that they're

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having problems at the foundational level.

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I think it's really cool how it's phrased.

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In verse four, it says, They will not frame their doings to turn unto their God.

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For the spirit of horts is in the midst of them and they have not known the Lord.

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It at their very core, they're setting up their structure.

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In the wrong way.

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It reminded me of the conference talk we just heard from, oh,

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I can't think of his name.

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It's in the notes where he talked about the anti seismic.

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You know, he was an engineer and he was talking about how to build anti

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seismic structures, and this idea of the doctrines of the gospel provide us

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this framework to build a happy life.

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Not a perfect, you know, trial free life, but a happy life, and that

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we can rely on those doctrines.

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Basically, they're building their framework on a whole different set.

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Concocted doctrines and therefore they don't have the pieces that they need.

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It reminded me of, so when we were fixing our basement or trying to

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build our basement, we hired a guy to do the framing and he came

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and created all the doors for us.

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Cuz I really wanted things to look neat and I, I'm willing to do

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some things, but not all things.

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And I was so excited to finally get doors on these walls that

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we'd been building for a while.

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And after he left, the contractor left, we found out that, Door frame

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he'd built was a different size.

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He didn't build them to the specific size of what like a Home

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Depot or a Lowe's would sell.

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He just created them based on whatever the opening looked like.

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So then we had to order custom doors for every single door twice.

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You guys, It's a long story, but it reminded me of this verse cuz I feel like.

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When you choose not to use God's framework, you actually double your

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cost and double the time and you end up going back to the beginning.

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Anyway, we ended up having to rebuild doors to the specifications that we

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could get doors for, and it's just this huge backslide, and that's what's

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happening with the children of Israel, and it's what happens to us as well

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when we turn away from that steady framework that the gospel provides.

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There is no structure that can stand, and we'll either learn that in the

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framing process or we'll learn it down the road when we try to order the doors.

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And I just think there's a lot of parallels in this chapter.

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You also see that the result is simple, that he has to withdraw.

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God can't be among them when they won't honor his.

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Law and especially when they turned to other idols and cheated

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on him with these false gods.

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So he says in six that he will withdraw himself from them.

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When you flip the page over, you see more warnings.

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He talks about those who removed bounds.

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This is in verse 10.

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Really cool turn of phrase cuz Basically what it means is someone who.

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Would sneak out and change the boundary lines so that they could steal property

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from their neighborhood, basically.

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And it reminded me so much of what we hear in the world today, that if

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you're unhappy with the boundaries that your religion sets up, you

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should just change the boundary line.

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You should adjust the goal post.

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I feel like that's the message in a lot of people's, you know, talk about religion.

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The warning is pretty solid, that if that's the case, then you are

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separating yourself from God.

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Remember we talked about it a dozen times.

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That Satan's goal is not to get you to sin as much as it is to

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get you to separate from God.

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And when you change the goal posts or change those boundaries, you

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open yourself up to that separation.

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You go a little bit further and you see the resulting action.

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Basically at a certain point in time around verse 13, they look

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down and they see their wounds.

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They will see how damaged they've become in this process of building

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a framework that's a mess.

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The same way I got to a point where I realized how bad my door situation

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was and how much it was gonna cost, and they can't find any cure.

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What happens with the children of Israel is they will look down and.

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, all these false gods I've built, they actually can't help me.

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They can't cure me.

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They can't save me.

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It will be a time.

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Ache and regret.

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And 15 is where you see the Lord's position where he basically says, I

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will go and return to my place till they acknowledge their offense and

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seek my face in their affliction.

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They will seek me early.

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This is the same thing that happens with us as parents.

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When you have to put a consequence in place and you know your kids are

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gonna be mad and they might storm out the door, they might say all kinds

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of things, but you know at some.

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They're gonna come home because what other option is there?

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And I feel like that's what the Lord is saying too.

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He is the only way that can save.

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He knows they will come home, but in the meantime, he's not gonna chase after them.

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He's basically like the father of the prodigal who goes home and he's not.

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Grumpy.

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I think he's there waiting, watching at the window, hoping the children from

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Israel will return soon, uh, because he has great promises in store for

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them if they will just seek his face.

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Jose doesn't give up easily in verse one, in chapter six, he's inviting them to

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come back to the Lord that even though they have been torn and smitten, that

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they can be healed if they'll turn to him.

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In fact, I love that he says in time in a couple days, you know, meaning, I

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don't know how much time's gonna pass that they can be in his sight again.

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And then in three then shall we know if we follow on to know the Lord.

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It's that press forward endure to the end vibe.

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They, they're gonna.

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to come to know him and it's gonna be a process.

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But Jose believes this can happen.

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And I just think it's interesting how he talks about their devotion.

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So if you're looking forward, he talks about their.

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Their current goodness is like clouds or do, it's it's surface level.

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It's something that dissipates it.

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It evaporates in front of your eyes, and that's what their

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devotions to the Lord are like.

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In fact, I love how you can almost hear the Lord's voice when you read

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verse six, for I desired mercy and not sacrifice and the knowledge

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of God more than burnt offerings.

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It reminded me of that story in the New Testament where the Savior goes and he

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heals the man who's been, whose legs have been, you know, he's at the pool

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of Bethesda and his LE's legs won't function, and he wants that miracle.

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And so he comes and he heals him on the Sabbath.

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And it's this beautiful miracle that happens that this poor

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man has waited decades for.

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And all describes, and the Pharisees can see, is that he picked up his

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mat on the Sabbath and that that's against the love Moses, and therefore

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they can now catch the savior.

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It's this.

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You almost can hear his words.

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In fact, he says this message in the New Testament a few times,

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that this is what all those love Moses or rules are all about.

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That that order that he's put in place is to help their hearts change.

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It's what our covenants and commandments do for us today.

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They're supposed to help our hearts change.

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It's not this big long list of dos and don'ts.

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It's supposed to be something that turns us to.

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In fact, if you go on the notes, there's a great talk that talks about sacrifice

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and that this idea of sacrifice is not so much giving up, but giving to, you

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know, the, the root word of sacrifice means to make something sacred.

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So when we give our time or our talents, or even our financial means with tithing

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and fast offerings, we're taking those things and we're making them sacred.

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That it's a giving to, not a giving up.

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And there's a whole bunch more you can learn if you go in.

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I gotta hand it to him.

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Jose is tenacious in chapter 10.

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He's still going strong, inviting the children of Israel to come

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back to learn and to repent.

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So he talks about them being empty vine in verse one.

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I think it's really interesting the way he phrases it.

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He says, Israel is an empty vine.

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He bringeth forth fruit unto himself.

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Isn't that kind of interesting?

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Like it's not an empty vine.

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It's a vine that they have chosen to consume on their own.

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I think it's the same way.

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If we take, you know, all those things, we were just asked to sacrifice our time

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and our talents and our financial means.

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If we take those things unto ourselves instead of offering them

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out, we are basically an empty vine.

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Because remember, the Abraham Covenant is intended to.

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Give them this chosen status so that they can take the light to the world.

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It's supposed to be a way for a gateway for everyone to access God's

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promises and covenants and blessings.

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And when they take those covenants and they hoard them, uh, one, they lose the

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blessings and they become this empty vine that's of no use to the Lord.

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Where you see that coming to a head is in verse two.

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Their heart is divided, and now they shall be found fault.

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It sounded like Elijah to me when he was talking about, remember

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how he talked about how long will you halt between two opinions?

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You have to make a call.

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Joel's gonna say this too, about the valley of decision that we have

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to make a call because standing there is no neutral in the gospel.

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So if you choose to not be on the side of Christ, you are by default.

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Working the other direction, and he's warning them about that.

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And he talked about how at some point in time, this is around verse

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seven, that they will realize their mistake and they will wish that

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there were mountains to cover them.

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I, I don't know if you've ever been in that spot.

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I remember feeling like that as a teenager sometimes when I would make a mistake or

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crash my dad's car or something and you just wish you could , you could hide.

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And that's how they will feel.

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But in an eternal.

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, One of my favorite parts is when you flip the page over to 12.

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So it says so to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy.

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Break up your fallow ground for it is time to seek the Lord I,

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You just get this motivational pull from josea fallow ground.

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I wasn't familiar with that term, so I had to go look that up, and it just means.

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Land that has been dormant for a while.

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So whether that's intentional because they're rotating crops and they leave, you

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know, a field unharvested for a season so that it can get more rich and nourished.

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Or if it's just one that's been neglected and now is ready for planting, it's

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this idea of come to the Lord and.

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Turn things around, like get an upheaval in your soul and

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turn things over to the Lord.

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It's a shake off the chains kind of verse, and he just is hoping they will

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take advantage of it because they can see the results of where they are.

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Now.

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If you look in 13, you've plowed wickedness, you've reaped iny,

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you've eaten the fruit of.

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To me, I feel like he's basically saying what we as parents say all the

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time, like, you know where this road goes, You know, if your kids have a

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friend that's just never really all that kind or tends to turn on them

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at the worst moments, you have these conversations with your kids where

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you're like, you know how they're gonna treat you, Why do you keep going back?

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And I feel like that's what trying to teach them, like, you

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know where this road goes, you've already eaten of the fruit of.

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Lie, you know that it's hollow and it can't satisfy,

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so turn to something better.

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Let's toss the fields a little bit.

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Sadly, they don't listen, but he keeps trying.

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Chapter 11 might be my favorite chapter of this whole week's study, cuz I feel

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like the Savior's voice is just all over the place and it's this loving parent.

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In fact, it sounds like a loving parent whose child has gone.

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Astray bar astray and the way he speaks about his child, despite

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the fact that they've gone astray, was really insightful to me.

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So if you look in 11, he talks about efram his child, and he, the beginning,

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you know, oftentimes when your kids do something hard, you think back on

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when they were so sweet and innocent and the happy times you had earlier.

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I think that's what's happening with him.

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He's thinking back on who they.

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Who they were when they began.

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So he talks about N three.

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I taught E from also to go taking them by their arms, but they

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knew not that I healed them.

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This is a metaphor of, you know, like a parent who holds onto their toddler's

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hands to help them walk, you know?

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And then when they fall you comfort them and help them get back up.

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That's.

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That's the image he's evoking and he talks about drawing them with chords of man,

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meaning these are not like what you would use for be burdened, those kind of ropes.

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This is gentle coaxing helping this growing up process that the

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children of Israel have been through.

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It's been this gentle approach and I, at the end, he talks about the yolk.

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So he says the custom at this time was that if you had an ox with a big

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heavy yoke on, oftentimes the farmer would lift the yolk, not take it

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completely off, but lift the weight of it so that the ox could go down and.

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Eat the grain that they were trying to feed it.

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And I'm sure that the ox has no idea that that burden's

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been lifted off its shoulders.

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And that's what he's promising he's been doing to the children

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of Israel all this time.

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So he is thinking back on these memories of what he's given

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and what they used to be like.

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And his heart is just sorrowing.

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It's like those phrases in the New Testament where he says, How often

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would I have gathered you like a hen gather through chicks, like he's

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just aching for them to come home.

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And in seven he drops all metaphor and just does it blatantly.

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And my people are bent back sliding from me though they

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called them to the most high.

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None would exalt them.

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And then he talks in eight about how they basically have earned the judgment that

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similar cities to Sotto and Gamora got that there was destruction that happened.

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But nine is where you see what he chooses to do.

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He says, I will not execute the fierceness of mine.

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Anchor.

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I will not return to destroy you from for I am.

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and not man, and I will not enter into the city, meaning he won't come to destroy.

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I thought this was so powerful.

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The statement of who he is is so clear and not just who he is, but that what

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defines him is his ability to choose.

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Remember everything we're learning in this life is all about self mastery

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and how to choose to be like the savior and to be like our heavenly parents.

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And what you see exemplified here is that he is someone who has mastered

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the ability to choose to feel emotion and to choose how to react.

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That's the meekness we admire about him in the New Testament,

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that he has this ultimate power that is under ultimate control.

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I just think it's such a powerful image because we tend.

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Like men, , we think the Lord sees us like men, and we don't think the same way.

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His thoughts are not our thoughts, and I think he's trying to teach us that,

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that when he sees us, he doesn't just see us in the mistakes we made today.

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He sees us as who we were.

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He remembers helping us and guiding us, holding our hands as

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we learn to use our agency and he can see us far into the future.

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So these mortal mistakes that we.

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Are not definitive.

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They're not defining who we are in his view.

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In his view.

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The children of Israel began far in the past when they were just young and

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beginning these covenants, and they will extend far into the future when they will

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eventually circle back and come home.

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That's how he pictures them so he can continually forgive.

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I think it's why that that Hosea metaphor works because he can continue to invite.

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Backsliding unfaithful wife back home because he doesn't see

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her in that moment of mistake.

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He sees her as a full person, someone bigger than what we as mortals see, and I

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just think there is such profound hope for all of us in that message to never forget

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that he doesn't see you as man sees you.

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He is God not man.

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And I just love that.

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Do you remember when Jeremiah warned us not to trust in broken cisterns?

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I think Jose has that basic message in verse one.

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Ephram Feedeth on wind and followeth after the east wind, and daily

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increase with lies and des desolation.

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He can see that they are feasting on something that can't last.

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It's, you know, like watching your kids eat Twinkies for lunch, they

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just can't, can't sustain them.

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But for me, one of the most powerful parts of this chapter is when

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he talks about how often he has.

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Taught them all the different ways and means he has tried to reach out to them.

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I think it was cool to me because as a parent, I feel like we do this

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all the time where I'm trying to teach my kids in a whole bunch of

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different ways with object lessons, with stories, with analogies, so

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that they can get the message.

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My hope is that at some point, one of these things will click for them and

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they'll get the message, and that's I think, what the Lord has been doing

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for the children of Israel as well.

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Cuz he talks about.

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What he's offered them, he's encourages them to turn to God in verse six

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and turn to the mercy and judgment.

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And then he says, I've spoken by prophets.

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I have multiplied visions.

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I have used similitudes in the ministry of prophets.

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He's talking about all the ways they have been.

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Called.

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Remember, it's the same thing we saw with right before the flood in Noah's

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day, that there was a, a surge of people trying to get them to change.

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It's the same thing we see over and over again.

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Whenever someone is about to be destroyed or scattered, there is

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this surge of profits who are sent out with strong messages to try

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to persuade the people to change.

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They just don't do it.

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But what I think is powerful for me is.

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It reminded me of how I am accountable for what my prophet says.

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They're being held accountable for all the ways God tried to teach

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them, whether they listened or not.

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The same way I think we are accountable for what our prophets tried to teach us.

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Whether we choose to study the general conference notes or not.

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We're accountable for that knowledge that they've tried to give us.

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So it kinda motivated me to get back into my conference notes a little

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bit more, so you'll see a lot more from this conference in the notes

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this week for that very reason.

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One of the ways Hosea teaches the people about setting aside their false gauze is

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by shining a great big spotlight on what the true God can do that nothing else can.

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And that is that he has the power to ransom, to redeem, to resurrect, to save.

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And you see it so profoundly in this chapter.

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So in 13, he talks about the warnings, about idols, and then about they're.

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Tossed around in the whirlwind.

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I actually really love this visual.

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It's one that's used several times in the Old Testament and in the Book of Mormon.

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In fact, Mormon talks about it and he says that it's like being tossed about

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on the waves without an anchor, without a sail, or without any means to steer.

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The reason I love that visual so much, it's, I feel like this happens

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to me when I get casual in my discipleship, and there's been times

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in my life where that's been the case.

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I find.

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Pulled.

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You know when a friend or a sister leaves the church and I hear their complaints

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or their frustrations and my testimony isn't deep, I find myself pulled.

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Same thing happens with social media.

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I'll read a post or, and all of a sudden I find myself kind of like,

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Oh, maybe there's more to that.

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You know, like, because I wasn't rooted, I become vulnerable.

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And that's what he's warning them about.

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And the way he wants them to root themselves is in a doctrine that is.

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Hope filled.

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He talks about how there is no savior beside God.

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So if you're looking for there shall thou, shall no.

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No God but me for there is no Savior beside me.

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He warns about them, forgetting him, and then he talks about why you should plant

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yourself in this rich, fertile soil.

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When you flip the page, you see that he is their only help in

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nine and then 14, I will ransom them from the power of the grave.

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I will redeem them from death.

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Oh, death I will be thy plague.

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It's like, oh, death.

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Where?

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Whereas the sting, you know, that same kind of message, Oh grave,

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I shall be the destruction.

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This is a promise that you can rest on.

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If you can believe in the resurrection, then I feel like the floodgates are

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open to believe in almost anything else that the gospel teaches

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because nothing is bigger than that.

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That is a profound promise.

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One of the talks I read, I think it was.

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Paul Johnson, It's in the notes.

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He talked about a cloud of witnesses and how there were so many people

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in the New Testament who witnessed that the Savior was resurrected

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and walked among them again.

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And then if you add on the people that we, the hundreds that we see in the Book

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of Mormon, who witnessed that the savior was resurrected and that he walked among

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them and came again, and the many more since that time in latter days, who have

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promised that he lives and that they have seen him and that he is resurrect.

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If you add up that cloud of witnesses, you've got this thick cloud that is

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unshakeable, and if you can believe in that promise, then it opens up a

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floodgate to believe everything else, because in comparison, nothing.

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Nothing even comes close to that kind of promise.

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So not only is it comforting to all of us who have lost or fear losing others

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who we love, it is a promise that opens.

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Hope for every other point of doctrine, and that is something

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that I feel like you can feast on.

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So don't take my word for it.

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Go in the notes, read that talk.

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It has such an incredible message of hope, and I think that's what Jose is trying to

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teach in this, you know, this last ditch effort to get the people to change that.

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Don't root yourself in idols and vain things that can't hold you.

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Let your soul sink deep into the doctrine of a savior who can save, who

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can redeem, and who can resurrect that doctrine you can sink into, and it

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will hold you in every storm of life.

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And, oh, it's so good you guys.

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This last chapter of Jose focuses on the latter days and their return.

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So there's this invitation from Hosea to turn and to return

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back to the Lord or to repent.

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And I love the way it's phrased.

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If you look at the end of two, it talks about we render the calves of

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our lips, and I was like, What is that?

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So then I had to study more and learn more that basically this, if you go

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in the footnotes, you can find this or in the notes from the course,

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but you can see that this is just an imitation to have a broken heart and a

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contrite spirit to submit your speech and your actions over to the Lord.

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That's what's gonna change things for the children of Israel.

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That's how they will come to him when they start.

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Turn over their wills to God and see what he can make of their

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lives, and I love the promise.

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It's in four.

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I will heal their backsliding.

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I will love them freely, for my anchor is turned away from him.

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That is how you know that he is God and not man, that

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despite countless generations of backsliding, he promises to restore.

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He promises to make whole.

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All that was lost in the process when this.

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Generation in the latter days comes to him.

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He will heal, He will fix.

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That's the promise.

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He will love them freely.

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It's the same thing we saw with Josea and this, you know, unfaithful wife.

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He will love her as soon as she comes back.

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As soon as she starts to change, he promises that I think.

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What we see in hose josea and certainly what we see in the Lord

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is that he never stops loving.

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The only thing that stops is the blessings.

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He will always love the children of Israel.

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He will always forgive them.

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What he can't do is always bless them unless they turn to him, and

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that's the same thing with us.

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He, his love for us, I feel like is unending and has always been, but

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what he wants to do is love and bless us, and in order for that to happen,

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we have to live the commandments.

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We have to honor his love.

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And I love the promises you see in the rest of the chapter.

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In fact, one of the most powerful to me is an eight.

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It says, Efram shall say, What have I to do anymore with idols?

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I have heard him and observed him, and I am like a green fur tree from me.

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Is the fruit found?

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This is that next generation.

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I think it's so cool cuz Efram is the tribe that's.

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Kind of sent to be the gatherers.

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So this latter day generation of the tribe of Efram will bring people home.

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And the reason they're gonna bring people home is because they've

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seen, they've observed and they have become something different.

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They have set aside any false tradition and they have.

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learned from that master example that we have, and they are evergreen.

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They are ready, and they are willing to bring everyone home.

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And I just think it's a really beautiful image to end the chapters Froma.

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Okay, onto Joel.

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You guys, there's just three chapters of Joel that we're studying, but they're

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mostly about the latter days before the second coming, the commotion that's

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gonna happen in the world, and how we as saints are gonna navigate things.

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And what I would tell you is if you just go straight into Joel, You're

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gonna struggle a little bit cause this is apocalyptic literature.

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This is kind of like reading, you know, John's words in Revelation where not

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everything has been fully revealed.

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So you can take a lot of guesses, you can read a lot of scholarship, or you can

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just go to the gospel topics and read what we do know . So that's what I found the

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most helpful to me, is I went into the gospel topics and in some of those related

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talks that they offer and learned more about the time before the second coming.

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and then went into Joel.

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And then I felt like I could sift through what mattered and

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what I can set to the side.

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And for me, what really mattered is where you learn about how the saints are

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supposed to act in all this commotion.

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That there will be times of trouble and there will be ways to find peace.

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So if you look in three, one of the ways.

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Can do.

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Our part is to tell our children and their children and their children's children

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about the second coming of Christ and then when there is commotion to fast I love.

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This is in 14 saying To Fae a fast call a solem assembly together, gather

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the elders and all the inhabits of the land into the house of the Lord

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your God, and cry unto the Lord.

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Don't you love that?

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That's the answer to when there is incredible commotion and fear in

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the world that we gather together as saints in the temple, and we fast

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and we pray and we seek tis, and the implied promise is that we'll get it.

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In fact, that's what you hear from the prophets today and in Joel's

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day, that that's a prophets job, is to help us know when to move.

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And so that's what he's trying to get us to understand.

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I think it's a little cryptic in Joel one, but I feel like that's the

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message we get from our prophets.

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So it's probably the most powerful for us to study today, but it gets a

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little deeper as you go into Joel, too.

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There's some comfort even in verse one of chapter two cuz it says that

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there's gonna be a trumpet blown.

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I don't know if this is literal.

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I think it probably means the prophets will tell us when

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it's time to be in action.

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I don't think this is gonna be a secret thing that only a few members

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of the church know what's going on.

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I think this is the prophet's whole job is to warn us of things that

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are coming in to help us rally.

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So that's the promise you'll see in too.

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You also see some warnings about.

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Bad things are gonna get, We tend to think of the days before the second coming as

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a day of rejoicing in a day of, you know, there's all the saints and the great

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gathering and all the light, but it's important to understand that there will

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also be gloom and darkness in the world at that time, and that's what he speaks about

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into a day of darkness and a gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness.

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As the morning spread on the mountains, there will.

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Wars and rumors of wars, and a lot of that happens in Jerusalem.

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It's often called the Battle of Armageddon.

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Again, you can go on the gospel topics, you can learn a little bit

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more, but that's what he's warning about, that there will be this

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great battle that is about to ensue.

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But I love that most of chapter two is focused on how we navigate it.

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So if you look in the verses, so for example, in.

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He talks about this, that the Lord is gonna be great and terrible.

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We've said that a few times in a few different ways this year, but that he can

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be both simultaneously to the righteous.

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It will be a great day, and to those who have not been, it will not be a great day.

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So you can be great and terrible simultaneously, but what is

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powerful to me is how he extends.

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In these last days, there is this invitation of mercy and forgiveness.

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It's what we saw with Hosea.

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It's that same pattern whether you've deserved it or not.

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There is this extension of.

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Come home, you'll see it in 13 and render your heart and not your garments and turn

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unto the Lord your God, Meaning don't just put an outward display of sorrow.

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Turn your heart to God and show him that you want to change.

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For he is gracious and merciful and slow to anger.

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Remember how we talked about that's the nature of God that he can control.

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Passionate responses and he can choose to be merciful and gracious.

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Just like we saw in the last chapter, he talks about gathering the people together.

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You'll wanna watch the footnotes in this chapter for the J s t changes,

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cuz there's a few important ones here.

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I highlight them all in the notes, so if you go in the

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notes, you should get the basics.

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But I love his invitation.

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He says he's going to pity his people in 18.

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And then you see this bestow of gifts and I can't go into each of them, but

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he talks about the different ways he.

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Help them as they all come home.

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He will send them corn in 19 and wine and oil.

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He'll push back the enemy in 20.

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He'll push back any threat in nature that's going to impede them from growing

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and coming back to the promised land.

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All that's gonna be taken care of.

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He promises a former and a ladder rain.

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You can go in the notes and learn more about this, but this is basically

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saying, I'm gonna give you the rain at the beginning of the season

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to soften the ground and make.

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Ready for planting and then I'm gonna water you throughout

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the season so that you have the nourishment you need to regrow.

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Isn't that visual?

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It just sounds like Isaiah to me.

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So the former and land rain will come.

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He will restore what has been lost, the years of decay that they've had,

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and he will restore their dignity.

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If you look in 26 and 27, these children of Israel who've been

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pushed around and abused by many nations and many peoples will.

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Will be protected and will be dignified in the way that he wants them to be.

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And that's a pretty impressive promise.

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But my favorite is in verse 28, and it'll come to pass afterwards that I

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will pour out my spirit upon all flesh.

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This is what Morona talks to Joseph Smith about how in these latter days there

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will be this outpouring of the spirit and your sons and your daughters will have

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visions and people will start to teach.

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This is where we are you guys.

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This is that phase where because there is an outpouring of his spirit, light

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floods, the earth, changes happen.

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Doctrine is taught clearly.

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That's where it all comes from.

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He is the source of all that goodness, and he lets it trickle out

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through the saints as he, you know, endows them with power and gifts.

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It's just this incredible promise.

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I love the idea of pouring out cuz it's not.

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A measured out amount.

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It is this abundance of his spirit.

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And when there is an overflowing abundance of the Lord's spirit,

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miracles just come about in its wake.

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That's the promise that happens with Zion.

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And then he talks about how they will, there will be deliverance.

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It'll get a little deeper as we go into chapter three, so let's go there.

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Okay.

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If your kids love the Avengers movies, you'll love chapter three.

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Cause that's what this reminds me of.

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I have that written in my margins.

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It's like, you know, those final epic battle scenes of any marble movie where

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everybody has to come to the table and be ready to like fight the good fight.

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And you have to make a decision about which side you're on.

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In fact, it's set in a valley of Jeh host Fe, which it's supposed to be

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that time right before the Savior comes again in the Jerusalem area there.

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It's literally translated to be the valley of decision because all

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of us are gonna have to decide.

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In fact, hopefully you've decided far before this point in time whose

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side you're on, and it's either the Lord's side or anybody else, right?

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And that's what's happening here.

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He's calling people to prepare the way for this.

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Battle.

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What's interesting is he calls everyone to prepare.

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If you look in 10 and nine, you see that he's calling the

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saints to prepare for war.

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In fact, it's a total reversal to what we read about the millennium when people

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are supposed to beat their plow shares.

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Remember that when they're this one, they.

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It's a reversal because they're taking their gardening tools

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and turning them into weapons.

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So it's totally opposite of what we'll see in those thousand years of peace.

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But he talks about when he comes that he will be there to judge.

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It says plead, but if you look in the footnotes, you can see

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that plead and judge are actually kind of synonymous in this.

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So there will be a time of judgment, and even though he's called all of

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us to help prepare the way he himself will fight the battle, I don't, I

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don't exactly know how that plays out, but we know for Isaiah's writings.

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He has trodden the wine press alone.

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This destruction that needs to happen.

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The cleansing that has to happen in the earth is something that

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the savior himself will do.

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Our job is to prepare the way.

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In fact, if you listen to lots of the prophets and apostles lately, they use

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that phrase that we're preparing the way for the second coming of the Lord,

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and then his job is to come and carry out this initial judgment that will.

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And you have to love the way it's phrased in 16, the Lord also shall

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roar out of Zion and utter his voice from Jerusalem and the heavens and

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the earth shall shake, but the Lord will be the hope of his people and the

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strength of the children of Israel.

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It's like, you know, it just sounds like the Avengers . It's

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got this like, Absolute.

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There is no question who's gonna win this battle, but it will be a battle and it

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will be a, it will be something that we all rally around that he, he provides

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this saving that occurs in 17 so ye shall know that I am the Lord your God.

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Dwelling in Z.

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Remember, that's what we're hoping for.

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That's what he's been asking us to do, Not just in Joel's writings, but

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in Hosea's that the whole purpose of all of the commandments and all of the

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covenants is to come to know the Lord.

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And when we see him fight this incredible battle for us and provide

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this safety in this crazy commotion of the world, we will know him.

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I just think there's power in that.

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And then when you read a little further, you see the outpouring

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of blessings that come because he chooses to try this wine press alone.

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He chooses to cleanse the earth so that we can have this next phase

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of the thousand years of peace.

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And that's what you see in 18.

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The mountains shall drop down new wine.

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The hills shall flow with milk.

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All the rivers of jus shall flow with waters and the fountain shall come forth.

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If you look in the footnotes, it references the fountain that we talked

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about in Ezekiel, the one that comes out of the temple and then heals the dead sea.

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That begins because of what happens in this valley of decision, and

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for me, it just motivated me to.

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Of where I stand like today, I feel like we're all in a valley of decision

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and my choices today will help me know where I'm gonna stand on this day.

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And I just think it's motivating and.

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It makes me so grateful for the savior that we worship, that he is a God, who

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is merciful, who forgives, who seeks after us, and who will boldly defend

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us in this time of great commotion.

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