Delma is tempted to bully a 10-year-old and Shadiin is saddened by the state of our curricula that would allow 10-year-olds to be more critical in response to global events. They also discuss how language reveals parts of ourselves we're not always proud of.

Delma and Shadiin also dive in with racial justice leaders in the Pacific northwest and twinsies - Rena Dunbar and Leah Dunbar.

Dr. Leah Dunbar is committed to educational justice and Dr. Rena Dunbar is a long time Ethnic Studies teacher. Together they co-created a curriculum called “Courageous Conversations” and have a lot of amazing things to say about working as educators with young people calling the shots.