How can we challenge the idea that in business only the unkind and ruthless rise to the top while the caring and compassionate get overlooked.

In this beautiful conversation with Christina Kisley and Graham Allcott we explore why we need to find more kindness in business and why we’re less likely to hear about kind leaders than unkind ones.

In actual fact there are more kind leaders than we think and we need to make people more aware that kindness is compatible with business success.

While being kind may not immediately increase your profits it will make your business more sustainable and resilient.

We talk about the difference between being kind and being nice and we also discuss what it means to be compassionate at work.

This conversation is about the soft, yet powerful, aspect of business that few people are good at but more of us need to learn. How we can be strong leaders yet sit with people who are struggling?

Christina is a leadership coach helping purpose driven organisations work more effectively.

Graham, as well as founder of Think Productive, is also author of Productivity Ninja and is helping transform the productivity and wellbeing of people and organisations.