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Gossip Girl S1E05 - Dare Devil
Episode 522nd January 2024 • Non Judging Breakfast Pod • Mithril Chain Network
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Leif and Steve do a spoiler free after watch of the OG Gossip Girl.

This week the guys break down Season 1, episode 5 titled Dare Devil.

Dan makes elaborate plans to impress Serena on their first official date; Jenny is invited to the infamous Blair Waldorf sleepover and finds herself in a high-stakes game of truth or dare; Lily discovers Eric missing from his treatment center, and seeks help from her ex-boyfriend, Rufus.  – IMDB

Produced by Leif Capicola and Steve Marchion. 

Edited and mixed by Leif Capicola.

The Gossip Girl Theme Performed By Steve Marchion.

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>> Steve: And I remember watching this moment and

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being like, holy shit. Is this my first glimpse

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at Lincoln Hawk? Because he's holding the

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album, and I.

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>> Leif: Believe they, uh, intended it to be.

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>> Steve: That it felt that way. Yeah, it felt.

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>> Leif: Um, this song is

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not on Spotify or apple.

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Hey, upper east siders, and all you scandal loving listeners out

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there, you've just tuned into the non judging breakfast

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pod, where the coffee is strong, the

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waffles are fresh, and the gossip is hotter than

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ever. My name is Leif, and I'm your seasoned gossip

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girl veteran.

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>> Steve: And I'm Steve the newbie. The

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greenhorn. I don't know. What do you call

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the new kid on the block in Gossip girl terms,

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Leif?

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>> Leif: I think they would label you as a

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project. Uh, yeah. The girls have the potential to be a blair.

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>> Steve: Well, then dress me in an Eleanor Waldorf

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original, and let's get started.

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>> Leif: Sounds good.

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>> Steve: So here's the deal, folks. Leif has been watching

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Gossip girl since it came out. I'm just

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watching for the very first time, and together, we're your

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dynamic duo, dissecting the drama,

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the glamour, and the sometimes

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questionable fashion choices of this iconic

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2007 series.

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>> Leif: That's right. Each week, we're going to break down all the

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schemes, secret hookups, and couture

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catastrophes, and trust me, there are a few of them.

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>> Steve: And, um, since we are all about inclusivity here at the non

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judging breakfast pod, there is always room

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for you at the non judging breakfast table, whether

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you are a old veteran like Leif

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or a newbie like me. Go grab your

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mimosa or a

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cup of coffee or maybe some of nate and Chuck

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special medicine if it's that kind of morning. And let's get

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into it.

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>> Leif: All right. This week, we're going to be breaking down season one,

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episode five, daredevil. Did, uh,

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you catch the reference?

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>> Steve: I'm assuming Daredevil,

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uh, the comic book character, probably. A little more

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specifically. The movie would have come out

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shortly beforehand.

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>> Leif: Ben Affleck.

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>> Steve: Yeah, the Ben Affleck version.

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Who?

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>> Leif: Yeah, we won't talk about that. Uh,

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the IMD episode description for

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reads. Dan makes elaborate plans to impress

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Serena on their first date. Jenny is invited to

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the infamous Blair Waldorf sleepover and finds herself

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in a high stakes game of truth or dare. Lily

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discovers Eric missing from the treatment center and seeks

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help from her ex boyfriend Rufus.

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>> Steve: Yeah, a lot, uh, a lot definitely takes place in this

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episode.

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>> Leif: Yes, it was, uh, directed by

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Jamie Babbitt. Um, done a lot of tv.

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Russian doll, Gilmore girls, Malcolm in the

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middle, United States, Atara

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Niptuck, Silicon Valley, the

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Oroville. Lots of stuff.

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>> Steve: Yeah, and the orville. I mean, that's also. That's really recent.

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The league of their own, if that's the series. Yeah, it was

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just, you know, that was so.

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>> Leif: Yeah, she's. She's steadily working.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: Uh, and then it was written by a. Lan

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K. Rosenfeld, who, uh, did 22 episodes

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of Gossip Girl.

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>> Steve: It's a good run.

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>> Leif: Anyways, we'll go ahead and get right into the

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episode. Act one begins.

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Preparation begins in the Waldorf penthouse for the

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annual sleepover.

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>> Steve: Um, the first thing that I noticed about this is that

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you have Blair, who,

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um, we've discussed her

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relationship with food before

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and how she's often body shamed by

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her mom, doesn't eat a lot when we see

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her around food, yet she surrounds

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herself at these parties with just

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decadence and. And

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cakes and foods that she's never

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gonna. Never gonna touch.

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>> Leif: Mm hmm. Um, yep.

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Uh, yes. Ah, yes, she is. Uh, definitely.

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Yeah. Ah, she's bringing out all the food and

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looks like a pretty fun party. Dan

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and Rufus, uh, discuss his date with Serena in

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Rufus's art gallery. Dan questions why Rufus

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hasn't told Allison about the sale of her

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painting.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: Um.

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>> Steve: Ah, a lot of the father son sort of stuff,

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but also, you know, the. You're

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seeing the communication issues with Dan and. Or

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with Rufus and his wife.

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>> Leif: Yeah. Um, he wants to

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go. Go and visit her.

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>> Steve: Yeah, and tell him. Yeah, he wants to tell her.

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>> Leif: Dan suggests that, uh, this might be better with a phone call.

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>> Steve: Yeah, and

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good advice. Really good advice.

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>> Leif: Yeah. It would have been much worse if you actually should.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Leif: I think some fists would have been thrown.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. Uh, if a fist

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could travel through a phone. But we'll get

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there.

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>> Leif: In the hall at coston, Serena hits up, uh, jenny for

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information on the mysterious date, but Jenny plays

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coyote. Serena receives a phone call from

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eric, who is coming home from the hospital.

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>> Steve: Um, I love the line

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of, um, humphrey

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men. Casual Friday is every

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day. Um, while

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she has no idea about what is going on with

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this date, she's preparing Serena

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for her idea of what a

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typical humphrey date would be,

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which.

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>> Leif: Yes.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: And blair invites Serena to her

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sleepover, but Serena has plans with dan.

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Jenny gets the invite instead. What? Is Blair

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scheming?

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>> Steve: Yeah. Um. Um, she is

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totally. She's totally up to something. Um.

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Um, I also love the

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who me who her with the

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catty and is in the background.

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Cottie. Yeah, cottie. And is in the background.

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Um, you know, they. I

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love when they have their little moments, I always

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appreciate them, and that was a neat little one.

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>> Leif: Um, lily and eric are back

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at the hospital, and lily is forcing eric to stay in the

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hospital despite the doctors saying it would be okay to come

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home.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Lily can't face this. Lily still

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can't face.

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Eric has these issues. Eric,

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she doesn't know how to explain it properly.

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Um, and she doesn't know how to

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parent eric.

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>> Leif: Well, also, I think, as we find out later,

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she blames herself

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because he's been lonely. Cause

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she's not been around, and Serena's been at boarding school.

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>> Steve: Yeah, well, yeah, and.

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>> Leif: And she's always off with the next guy and

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traping around the world.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: Drape scene.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: Dan arrives to pick up Serena, has

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and has to ad lib and change into something a little more

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formal when she sees dan in a suit. While serena

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is changing, lily arrives. Dan makes a joke that liz

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is, elicits half a smile from lily. The

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preceding jokes don't land as well.

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Um.

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>> Steve: Um, yeah, and

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for one, um. Um, we

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have Serena changing in front of dan

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sort of. Again, not not necessarily in front

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of, but, like, talking. Talking.

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Yeah. Uh, very confident

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about. Yeah, about her body

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and not. And not feeling that. That

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type of that shame, you know?

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>> Leif: Um, ah, whereas you can

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never imagine Blair doing this in front of Nate.

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>> Steve: No, no.

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>> Leif: Blair, even though they've been dating for years.

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>> Steve: Yeah, exactly. And

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struggle to find, you know,

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the right moment for their own. For their

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own sex, you know?

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Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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>> Leif: If you're. If you're 17 and you've been dating that long and it's not

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happened, there's a reason.

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>> Steve: Yeah, there's other reasons. There's other reasons.

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Um, but also that that interaction with Dan and

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Lily where you once again, see that

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awkward side of Dan where he's,

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you know, where he tries to be funny and

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he's. He tends to be more confident with

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Lilly and tends to be more confident around

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people that he doesn't

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like, that don't like him, and he's kind of written

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off. And since Lily has always had this

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adversarial relationship with Dan, Dan

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doesn't mind going at Lily.

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Um, but then he also kind of has that moment where

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he's like, I am taking this person's daughter on a

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date, and then he kind of tones it back

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and apologizes and gets a little awkward.

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Um, but, yeah,

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but she also doesn't seem to hate him as

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much.

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>> Leif: She's warming up a little bit.

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>> Steve: Yeah, a little bit.

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>> Leif: And Dan and Serena step out onto the

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sidewalk. Serena sees a vespa and assumes it

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stands. You know what they say when you

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assume.

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>> Steve: Yeah, she is. So she climbs on it.

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She is so excited to have such

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a Brooklyn date. We're gonna do something like

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ride around on a Vespa. Dope. Oh,

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man, I'm so glad because, you know, I'm used to just, like, getting into

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someone's car and going to a fancy restaurant.

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>> Leif: Ah. Uh, Jenny

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nervously arrives at the sleepover.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Um, Taylor

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Mumpson's acting in that moment is

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just absolutely

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impeccable. I

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totally took me to my own daughter. When

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you get my daughter in that moment when she's embarrassed

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and she's caught off guard,

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that look on her face

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and also the way that she gets there and has

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that recognition, realizes she's out of her

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league and has to step it up and just

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kind of meets that, like.

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Yeah.

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>> Leif: So, uh, good.

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>> Steve: Everything. Everything in her face in

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that scene is just

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perfect.

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>> Leif: Yeah, definitely.

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And that is the act break. As we moved into act

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two, we are at a french

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restaurant. Dan is bobbing.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: Ah.

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>> Steve: He is tanking this entire

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date. He's. He, you know, he's looking

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at the menu and. Oh, yeah, I'm not going to order the

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thing I actually want because the appetizer is

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the thing I can afford. Yeah.

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>> Leif: Uh, yeah. Uh, as the waiter walks away, he changed. He's like, I'll just have the

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appetizers.

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>> Steve: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuz. Cuz sereno. Yeah.

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Serena walked away, and he's like, hey, how much

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was that? Yeah. All right, I'll just get. Yeah, I'll

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get the appetizer. And.

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Yeah, it was. He just.

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It's, you know, I've been. I've been

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on that date. I have been that guy on that. No,

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no, I wanted the salad. I have

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never wanted the salad.

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>> Leif: At the sleepover. The other Humphrey is killing

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it. But can lil j keep up with this high stakes

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game? The drinks are coming out.

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>> Steve: Yeah, and. And I don't like

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vodka.

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>> Leif: It's, uh, gin, honey.

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>> Steve: Yeah. The way a Martini's supposed to

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be. Blair, I hear

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you. I feel you shouldn't be

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drinking. You're 17 years old.

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But met you are. Right.

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Um, but also, I love, you know, here's Jenny,

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you know. No, I don't. Instead of. No, I don't

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drink. No, I don't like that

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drink. That's not what it

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is. And it's, you know, she.

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Yeah, but she goes with it.

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>> Leif: Yeah. Which, you know, most kids

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probably would.

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>> Steve: Yeah. And I never

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get the impression that Jenny is really

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drunk throughout it. So

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she definitely has the impression of

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someone who either can already

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hold their liquor anyway, which I don't think so,

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because I really got the impression she didn't drink.

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So more likely, she's really good at

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being subtle at how much she's drinking,

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which. That's an art, too.

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>> Leif: Yeah.

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And Rufus tries calling Allison and

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hangs up when a man answers the phone.

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Rufus is devastating.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. Not a good lookout.

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>> Leif: Oh, she just got out of the shower.

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>> Steve: I'm. I'm friend.

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Oh.

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>> Leif: Uh,

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uh, poor

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Rufus.

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>> Steve: Poor Rufus.

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>> Leif: Uh.

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We return to the worst date ever, and it is revealed

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Serena secretly paid for dinner. The pair

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finally communicate, and things are looking up.

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>> Steve: Yeah. And I loved this moment

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because we are kind of caught in a

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cliche of the bombing the date and bombing the

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date by going to the place thats too expensive and

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out of your league. And the way that

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Serena comes back, and she's like,

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I already paid for it. And he's like, I can pay for

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this. I know you can, but you shouldn't

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have to spend your money here. Like, uh,

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the whole idea of, like, this. I can have this anytime.

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Take me where you want to take me. Take me on

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your date. And that just really

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felt. It felt like a

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much better resolution than we often

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get in teen

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dramas.

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>> Leif: Well, yeah, they learn that

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communication helps the relationship.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: And let's. Let's.

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>> Steve: Let's.

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>> Leif: Hopefully, they, uh. Uh, they can keep that lesson.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: All.

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>> Steve: Ah.

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>> Leif: Right. And then back at the

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sleepover, the drinks continue to flow. When Jenny gets

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an so's text from Eric on, Blair

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dares Jenny to break Eric out of the hospital.

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>> Steve: Yes. And,

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man, this is so great, too. When. When

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Jenny. Because you see that Jenny, you

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know, wants to do this, she

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knows that it's. That it's trouble, but she

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wants to do it. You know, she wants

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to rescue Eric, and.

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Yeah.

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>> Leif: And that is the end of act two. And we go to

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act three. Jenny arrives at Eric's

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room as Blair is faking being wasted to distract the

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floor nurses. Somehow, the scheme works, and they

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get Eric out. First of all,

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great acting by Layton, but second, all

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the security is horrible at this place.

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>> Steve: Yeah, I'm just going to say, in general,

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the practices of the Ostrov

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center, the security, the.

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Yeah, you can go to that party.

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>> Leif: But you can't go.

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>> Steve: There's. There's a bit of questionable

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methodology going on there. Um, but

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also, Leighton, when it's

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like, uh, what's the line

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where she says, I'm on this. I'm on this.

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I'm on all the Pams.

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>> Leif: Yeah. Mouths of Pam.

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All the pams. Really?

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>> Steve: All the pams. Really?

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>> Leif: That was great. Um, and

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then Lily receives a call that Eric

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has escaped with a young, beautiful blonde

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girl. Lily, of course, assumes

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Serena.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Because as we've. As we

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know, Serena and jenny,

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practically identical twins.

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>> Leif: It's easy to mix them up.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. They're just, what,

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like, five inch height difference.

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>> Leif: Yeah. All,

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uh, right.

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And then at the pool, the date is

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finally looking up as Dan is apparently good enough to

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win money at pool.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Um. Um, again,

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we're. We're back in. In a cliche

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date, but I also I'm not

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upset with it because I feel like we actually see Dan

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being Dan and

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being more natural and Serena

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getting to. Actually get to know him

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and, you know. Yeah, actually, and

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actually be outside of her comfort

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zone, which.

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Where I, uh, not that I don't really feel Serena has a

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comfort zone. You know, I feel like she's

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comfortable anywhere, wherever she goes. She's just got

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that confidence. Um, but,

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you know, it is out of her routine,

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out of her norm.

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>> Leif: Yeah. And then Rufus

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receives a phone call from lily, who is looking for

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Daniel, who is with Serena, who may or may not be

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with Eric, and he's.

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>> Steve: So fuck off about it, too. And

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it's like, you know, hey, my kid's a good

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kid. Like, even though your kid

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did break out Eric, it's just the

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wrong year.

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>> Leif: Kid broke Eric out.

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>> Steve: Like, your kid is guilty, but not the kid

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either of you think it is. Um, but,

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yeah, Rufus just being like, hey, their

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kids on a date, and it's not

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them, so fuck off, essentially,

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and. And hangs up on

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Lily. Um, granted, Rufus

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is having a day.

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>> Leif: Yeah. Again,

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you know, it's always like, right. You know, she always. Lily

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always comes in right after he's been dealing with Alison stuff.

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>> Steve: Yeah, yeah. But. But also,

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kudos to Dan for talking him out of driving.

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>> Leif: Yeah.

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Um, and then he immediately reconsiders and, you know,

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tries to call Dan.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah, he. And that's. And that tells you a lot

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about Rufus, too. Like, fuck off, lady.

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This isn't, you know, my kid isn't your problem,

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but also, okay, you do have a problem. I'm gonna see if I can help

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you.

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>> Leif: And the sleepover. Plus, Eric has moved to a

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club. The dares escalate.

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Does Blair have a new protege?

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>> Steve: Yeah. I mean, they. They start.

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They, uh, the whole

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steal. She steals his phone, go make out.

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>> Leif: With that guy, and then she steals.

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>> Steve: And then she steals his phone and has Jenny

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call her girlfriend.

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>> Leif: Yeah.

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>> Steve: Fantastic. And again, Jenny's

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just every step of the way like Jen, you

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know, uh, Jenny

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real every step of the way is realizing that the game

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is just a harder game than she. Then she

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realized, you know, she every step of the

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way she, you know, just has to make

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that turn where she basically puts

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out her shoots and ladders piece and then realizes that

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she's playing risk and then is like, okay.

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And, ah, alters her game, you know?

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>> Leif: Yeah. Back on the date, Dan is

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going doing the classic teach the girl how

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to shoot pool move. They are about to

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kiss when Dan's phone vibrates.

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>> Steve: Um, yeah, the interrupting the kiss

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right before it happens. Um,

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although something's vibrating and

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I hope it's your phone. That's

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cute. Yeah. Um, also,

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uh, the jenny scene that I

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wanted to mention the whole, um, um, this

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is. But, um, um, no, she doesn't

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say blair. What does she say? She she

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does. She calls the girlfriend. Jenny calls the

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girlfriend and says she's.

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>> Leif: About to say Blair, but Claire.

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>> Steve: Claire. Yeah, that's it. My name

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is Clair.

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Subtle.

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>> Leif: Yeah.

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>> Steve: Smooth.

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>> Leif: Because he's blatant, dude. Definitely. Blair had a look

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on her face too as she started saying yeah. Reacted right

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away.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: Um, and then back of the loft, Lily

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storms in on Rufus. Lily

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offers for Rufus to cook for her something

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to eat while they wait for the kids to call.

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>> Steve: I love, I love Lily in this

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scene. First of all, it's kind of

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hot the way she's like, you can still cook,

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right? Like, you

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know. Oh, no, I don't want that, that

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swill you're drinking. But yeah, sure,

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you can make me something that non premium.

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Yeah. M

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so good.

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>> Leif: Uh, yes. Back at the club, the

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dares are starting to cause repercussions.

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Dan and Serena arrives and things get turned up to eleven

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as the group gets thrown out of the club.

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Yeah, that guy's girlfriend showed up

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pretty quick.

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>> Steve: Yeah. And Dan

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is. Dan is

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always ready to knock someone out if they talk to Jenny the

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wrong way. Like, Dan is always ready to

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throw hands for Jenny at, uh, uh, like, any given

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time.

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>> Leif: Although I was not a big fan of his comment about the

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dress.

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>> Steve: Yeah, yeah. The napkin. Yeah,

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yeah, he does.

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>> Leif: The only thing causing a problem is the cocktail napkin you're

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wearing.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. Which

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why the idea that an outfit

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can be the problem is really, it's.

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Come on, Dan, it's 2007.

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>> Leif: Yeah. Not a good look.

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And then, uh, back to the loaf

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lily and Rufus bought over their parenting while

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cooking. And, you know,

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we see Willie reveal why Eric

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was at the Ostra center and, you know, kind

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of reveals. Like, she blames herself.

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>> Steve: Yeah. And there's that moment where

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drinking, drugs. No, he's a good kid.

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Um, that, like,

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the insinuation of, like, you're a bad

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kid if you're drinking or doing drugs, which

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I also get, like, the getting into trouble

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thing versus the harming yourself

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thing. And. But

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both things are typically.

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Are typically born from. From trauma

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and other sort and other things,

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you know, which I'm sure the Ostrov center

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does a great job of treating.

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>> Leif: I mean, it seems like these kids

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are pretty used to drugs,

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alcohol pretty early and not even from a trauma

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perspective just because it's there.

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>> Steve: Well. Well, yeah. Well, sure.

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But also, all of these kids have

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trauma. Like, all of them, like,

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yeah, they all do. I, uh, mean,

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uh, Serena, known as the party girl.

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Like, we have no idea what happened with her dad.

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We have no idea yet what happened with

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Chuck's mom. But we know that there's something

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going on with Chuck's mom, too, that she's not in the

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picture, which, you know,

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family separation is traumatic. And all

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of these families are separated.

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>> Leif: Yeah, indeed. And then

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outside the club, Serena, Blair and Eric have a

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conversation. Um, yeah, they

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were, you know.

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Yeah, Serena's trying to protect Eric, but,

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uh, Eric says, you know, he's

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okay. You know, he wants to get out and be with people other

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than mom.

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>> Steve: And you, even if it is Blair.

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I.

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>> Leif: No offense. No offense.

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>> Steve: None taken. I loved that.

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>> Leif: Taken.

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>> Steve: Because the other thing that we really see

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here, we talked about this

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in the previous episode

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where, um,

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blair out Serena for the

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ostrov center. And then Eric tells her, no, it was

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me. And Blair is like, oh, shit, this isn't the

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person I wanted to hurt. And now you actually, once

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again, see that? Like, these two grew

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up together, too. And this is your. Your

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best friend's siblings are. Are

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your siblings in so many ways.

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>> Leif: You know, uh, Dan

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is worried about Jenny, but ultimately allows her to go back

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to the party. And Dan walked Serena and Eric

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back to their hotel. Much

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better brother sister moment there.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. And actually,

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I really love Jenny in this moment.

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Once again, I know who they are.

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>> Leif: Ah.

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>> Steve: But more importantly, I know who I am.

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So, yeah, I know what's going on.

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I'm playing this game, too. Yeah,

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I thought that was just an absolute

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killer moment for Jenny to really

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also kind of tell Dan, like, I am.

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I'm grown up.

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>> Leif: I, uh, have agency.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yes. Yeah, I can do this.

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>> Leif: Jenny has one last dare outside

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Eleanor's store. It's a. It's a trick. And Jenny

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is trapped in the store as alarms sound.

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>> Steve: And it's so funny because, like, you see this

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happen.

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>> Leif: Oh, uh, yeah.

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>> Steve: You see it every step of the way. Oh, yeah. Just go in there

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and take that coat.

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>> Leif: Why are you coming in?

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. It's

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also obvious that it's, you know, you're going

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in there and I'm going to lock you in and call the cops,

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so. Which, which,

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it's. If you're

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in Blair's circle already,

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all of those people that already have

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the abundance of wealth that if

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they were caught in

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a situation, uh, like this could

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literally buy their way out of

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any and all trouble associated with it. And now

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you have Jenny, who may

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not have that kind of cash

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available to her. So it

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is higher stakes for Jenny than

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a lot of other people in this circle.

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Blair's circle. Yeah.

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>> Leif: And that is the end of act three. We get

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onto the epilogue.

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Back at the loft, Rufus and Lily

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reminisce about their past. Lily answers the

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phone, and Allison is on the other end.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: Um, um.

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>> Steve: Womp, womp. And instantly, we

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get the

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tone of the relationship

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between Lily and Alice.

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>> Leif: Yeah. And it sounds like,

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uh, they're close enough that Alison

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recognized Lily's voice.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah.

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Right away.

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>> Leif: Yeah.

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>> Steve: And, uh, they.

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And you have to figure that there was

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some crossover in those

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early rockstar years.

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You know, they. They clearly know each other

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well enough to recognize voices.

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>> Leif: And then, um, back at the store,

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uh, Jenny smooth talks her way past the cops.

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She gets away without issue and even

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gets to keep the jacket.

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>> Steve: And, man, five years later, she

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couldn't have gotten away with this. You know, by

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the. By the end of the show's run, she

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couldn't have gotten away with this. But, like,

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no, in 2007, no

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one's picking up and googling what

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Blair Waldorf looks like. Uh, you

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know, her face isn't all over the papers and

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everything.

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>> Leif: Yeah.

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>> Steve: I don't know. This is my mom's store. Why would I have the keys?

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Yeah, I don't have id. I'm 17.

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I'm 16 years old. I don't have an id

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yet.

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>> Leif: Yeah, definitely would. Not passing. That's today's

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time.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Leif: And so we move on. Serena and Dan are

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talking about their younger siblings. Something

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like that plays as we see Dan and Serena kiss for

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the first time on the streets of

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NYC.

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>> Steve: Yep. Great kiss. Great

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moment. Like, great. You know, we've been waiting

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for this. It's been building up for five

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episodes now. And.

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Yeah, it's great.

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>> Leif: Mhm.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Great resolution to their story

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arc that this episode.

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>> Leif: Yeah. And then Jenny

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shows up at the sleepover and wins the

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nights.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: When.

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>> Steve: When she leaves the sleepover,

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she goes back, she leaves the

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sleepover and she turns to Blair and she's like, first

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of all, she's like, I'm keeping the jacket.

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I'll see you on the stairs. Lunch. On

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the lunch of the Met steps. I'll see you

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there. Yeah. So, like, uh, because Blair,

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game recognizes game and Blair's

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like, you know, no one leaves. Like, oh, you're bailing.

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No, I'm walking out.

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I'll see you again later.

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>> Leif: And I'm keeping a jacket.

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>> Steve: Yeah, and I'm keeping your jacket.

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>> Leif: That, Jack could probably cost a couple thousand dollars.

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>> Steve: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jenny

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fucking owned that. Yeah.

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Um, everything in about Jenny in this

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episode just plays the game

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like a fucking, uh,

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genius.

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>> Leif: She is definitely a project.

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>> Steve: The Bobby Fischer

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of the upper east side

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royalty.

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>> Leif: Scheming.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: Um, and so that is the end of the episode.

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So we'll go ahead and get into some segments.

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Um, so the song that plays, um, in the

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montage, uh, where Dan and

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Sridha kiss, and we get the whole

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montage on most sites, it's

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just labeled as something like that by

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Tim.

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>> Steve: Yeah. And I remember

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watching this moment and being like, holy shit. Is this

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my first glimpse at Lincoln Hawk?

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Because he's holding the album.

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>> Leif: And I believe they, uh, intended it to be

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that it felt that way.

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>> Steve: Yeah, it felt.

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>> Leif: Um, this song is

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not on Spotify or Apple.

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Um, it's only on YouTube. And it's under the

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title song and wager

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as, uh, the artist's name.

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>> Steve: Yeah. S w. Right. Or is it

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so n g s.

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>> Leif: O n g s o n g o. Ah.

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And then he. Which

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they. He has one album on Spotify,

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but not this song.

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Um, apparently the guy's name is Tim

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Bader. He's from Philadelphia.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: He's eagles fan.

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>> Steve: Nice, nice. Go birds. Next

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year, I guess.

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>> Leif: Yeah. Um.

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>> Steve: And.

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>> Leif: But, yeah, so that. That's that song. Um, and

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then a m little more trivia from the episode

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when Blair comments, Jenny's outfit is too Hannah

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Montana. It may be a reference to the fact that Taylor

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Mumpson was almost chosen to play the character of Hannah

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Montana until Miley Cyrus got the role.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. I really like that

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bit of trivia, that whole scene, too. To this.

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To this. To this. It was cute.

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>> Leif: And then this is the only episode where Eleanor

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Storm is seen or even mentioned.

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>> Steve: Yeah, and it seemed like a tiny

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little hole in the wall store, too, you

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know? Like, you only see that

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little boutique.

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>> Leif: Almost, which makes

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sense.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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>> Leif: I mean, she hasn't even gone public yet. Yeah, she's in small

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fashion line.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: Yeah, we'll see where she ends up later.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Well, I mean, she has all that stuff. That's gonna work out great

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with the captain, I'm sure.

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>> Leif: Oh, yeah.

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Um, so let's go into episode grades. I, uh,

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went first last time, so you can go first this time.

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>> Steve: Um, I really loved this episode.

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I felt like everything was kind of

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turned on its head. Like, everything that

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was, uh,

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they took a lot of cliches and kind of worked it out better.

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Like, this is how things could work out better.

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Um, overall, I thought the episode was an a.

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Um, Jenny really shot

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this episode up for me. Like, just every scene with

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her made it just great for me.

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Um, I knocked it down even

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a little bit because of the complete whack

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of Nate and chuck in this

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episode. Like, they. They were definitely

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missed. Uh, you know, I'm a

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big Nate.

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>> Leif: Stan, so,

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um, I'm gonna go a little bit lower than

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that. Um, I. Yeah, I was

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not as thrilled with the trophiness as you were. I

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thought they had trophiness and then replaced it

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with even more tropes.

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Um, so from the first half the episode, the only

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part I really liked was Dan and Serena finally

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communicating, but I did, like,

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all the Blair, the sleepover stuff with Jet. Blair

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and Jenny.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: Um, they worked great together as actors.

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Uh, so I'm going to give the episode, and like I said, no,

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no. Chuck and Nate. So that was kind of. That

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was missing. So I'm going to give it a b

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minus.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: All right, on to Stockwatch. Uh, who do you have

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going up?

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>> Steve: Um, well,

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Jenny skyrockets in this episode. Her

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stock goes up and up. Um,

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Dan and Serena, their stock goes up. They finally

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did the thing. They finally had their good date. They finally

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get their kiss. Stock goes up. Um,

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Lillian, rufus. I had their stock going

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up. They both kind of, uh,

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they both had

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parenting wins a little bit. You know, Lily

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kind of, you know, opening up

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and being a little bit more of a person for the first

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time, uh, that

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their stock. And then Eric also getting

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out. M Eric stock went up, too.

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>> Leif: Yeah, I also. Yeah, Jenny,

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obviously, she clearly won the episode.

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Dan, uh, Serena, even though I didn't necessarily enjoy all their

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scenes, they seem to have fun, so I'll give

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them stock up.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: Um, Lily and Rufus, for their communication

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and opening up together and reconnecting

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finally. Um, even though Rufus,

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you know, got the bad news about his

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wife maybe starting to move on

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finally. And then, yes,

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Eric as well, because he got to have fun and hang out

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with some people that weren't his, uh, family.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah. Um, then

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going down for me, the ostrof center,

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their faculty, their staff, their security.

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The ostrof center's stock went down for

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me.

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>> Leif: Yeah. Uh, not great on the security front. Uh,

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for me, Allison, uh, gets an off screen,

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uh, stock down for just being a cheating

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wife.

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>> Steve: And to me, like, to me, I would

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concur outside of. She isn't

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really a character to me yet, you know,

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because she's just all off screen.

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>> Leif: So I think going forward, we can

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use anyone who's at least

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mentioned anyone.

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>> Steve: Mentioned in the episode, they have to.

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>> Leif: At least be mentioned.

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>> Steve: Okay. Okay, good. Good.

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That's good to go on. That's good to go on.

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>> Leif: And then who do you have, uh, for best outfit?

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>> Steve: Dan's brown suit. Dan's suit. When.

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When he shows up. And then Brown's not

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my thing, and it's not typically Mike Huller, but, man,

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he just pits him, um, owns that.

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>> Leif: Yeah.

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>> Steve: Yeah. He just.

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>> Leif: It was very well tailored to.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Leif: Not trial, you forget.

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>> Steve: Yeah.

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>> Leif: That well tailored.

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>> Steve: Yeah. I mean, yeah. I think we're

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also supposed to believe that it wasn't

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tailored and. But it was super well tailored.

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>> Leif: Yeah. And,

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ah, for me, it was a, uh, Jenny's yellow, uh,

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jasmine de milo dress with the black and gold

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swirl print coat from Millie.

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I thought she owned it and she just killed it

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all upset.

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>> Steve: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was it.

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Yet I actually didn't love

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it. Didn't love the dress because of the

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bow on it. Wasn't there a big bow

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on the front of it?

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>> Leif: Sort of like something wasn't a bow, just like I, like, kind

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of a drape.

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>> Steve: Yeah, I thought that part of it was. I just thought.

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>> Leif: I think it worked for a character.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah, it does. Um,

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yeah. But also a shout out to her

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earlier outfit that. Where she. When she showed up,

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um, and she had that, like, pink sweater,

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the. The crocheted, like,

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or knit sweater. That

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made me really realize the sweater game in general on

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this show is just on point.

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>> Leif: Uh, if you live in New York City, you gotta have good sweaters.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Leif: And good coats in general.

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>> Steve: Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Leif: Okay. Ah, you got anything to

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plug?

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>> Steve: Um, I should be

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at trying to think when this comes out,

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but if it's not too late. February 8, I'll be at

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McGillan's for their open mic.

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Um, ah, that's in senator City.

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>> Leif: We should come out tomorrow.

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>> Steve: Okay. Oh, yeah. It is time for this to come out, isn't

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it? Wow. Um,

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yes. So February 8, come out to McGillens in Center

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City and come see me play. I'll be the featured

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act for the open mic. And if you play music, come play music for the

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open mic. Um, and then you can

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also follow me at Steve Dot

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Marshan on Instagram marchion,

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and

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you can find me at stevetheweed wizard on

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TikTok. Um, and then you can also find me on

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Spotify, iTunes, Amazon music,

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uh, I heart, and anywhere else that you stream

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music, you can find my stuff.

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>> Leif: Uh, and, um, yeah,

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um, uh, I haven't really watched anything

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new recently, so, uh, I'll just, uh, plug my

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Twitch, uh, Twitch TV

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hotcappicola, and then, uh, you can

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And we also have a Facebook community group. Just

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>> Steve: And if you have any questions for us, you can send us an

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email@nonjudgingbreakfastpodmail.com.

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we, uh, would love to hear from m you. We'll try to answer

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all of your questions and comments here on the

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podcast. Um, and we

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would also just really appreciate hearing from you.

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And if you could also please go on to

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>> Leif: Alright, uh, so that's all for this week.

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Next episode is season one, episode six,

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the Handmaiden's Tale. The HBO Max

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description is, and Dan is torn between

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two girls when his childhood friend Vanessa returns

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home.

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>> Steve: Oh, boy.

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>> Leif: So we get to meet Vanessa,

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a new character. Well, until next time,

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you know you love us. Xoxo.

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>> Steve: Take care.

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