Welcome back to Dont get this Twisted
In this episode, Robb and Tina celebrate their 100th episode and reflect on their podcast journey. They discuss the speed of intimacy in dating and the importance of getting to know someone before engaging in sexual activities. They also explore the differences in expectations between genders and the impact of age on dating dynamics. The hosts emphasize the need for effort and communication in dating, as well as the importance of trust and establishing boundaries. They also discuss the role of alcohol in sexual encounters and the importance of consent and open communication. The episode concludes with a discussion on unique date ideas and the significance of reading body language in building intimacy.
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::[Robb]: Welcome to another show of don't get
this twisted. I am Rob along with my coast
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::[Robb]: as always Tina. How you doing, Tina?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm good now that I'm doing
the podcast. It's been a day.
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::[Robb]: Yes, yes, it has been a day,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yes,
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::[Robb]: that is very
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and
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::[Robb]: true.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: we're at 100 episodes.
This is
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::[Robb]: 100.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: our 100th.
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::[Robb]: This is our 100th. Who would have ever
Fargan thought we
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: would make it this far?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Not me.
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::[Robb]: I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Who
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::[Robb]: would have
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: knew,
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::[Robb]: never
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know?
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::[Robb]: thought.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: No, but we've been doing
this over a year now
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::[Robb]: Yes.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and this is our 100th show.
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::[Robb]: Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm impressed. Yeah.
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::[Robb]: Me too, you know what I mean? It's like,
we're on a mission from God. It's like amazing,
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::[Robb]: you know what I mean? So.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, when you told me
that the average podcast is like seven episodes,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I thought, oh, OK, well,
I wonder how many we'll do. I had no idea.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: We'd be at 100. And it's
your birthday. So happy
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::[Robb]: Correct,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: birthday.
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::[Robb]: I know, thank you very much. I think
it's pretty amazing, because I thought like
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::[Robb]: around 20. I remember at 20 I was like,
man, we've made it 20 episodes. That's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: pretty crazy. So that we've made it
to 100 seems like just a
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: insane
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::[Robb]: crazy thing. Very
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and
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::[Robb]: much
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: thank
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::[Robb]: true.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you all for listening the
people that are that are currently listening
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and have been since the
beginning
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::[Robb]: Yes,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: thank
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::[Robb]: the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you for
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::[Robb]: avid
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that
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::[Robb]: ones, the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: yes
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::[Robb]: avid listeners.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah i was i was texting
with a friend today and she's like i go what
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: she said guess what i'm
doing and i said i don't know what and she
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: uh she sent me a picture
of our um The episode that we did last week,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I guess she
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::[Robb]: Right.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: was listening to that when
I was texting her and was like, hey, thanks.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: That was cool. I wasn't
expecting that either. So
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::[Robb]: It
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it
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::[Robb]: is
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: was kind
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::[Robb]: interesting
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: of cool.
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::[Robb]: when you get that quick response. People
are
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: actually listening to it, and they're
like, hey, I listened to it today, and you're
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::[Robb]: like, oh, okay, how was it? Or they
go, oh, it was a really good episode, blah,
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::[Robb]: it's kind of nice.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, I have a an old boyfriend
from way back in the day. He listens to apparently
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: most if not all the episodes
and he sent me a text last week. He goes, hey,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I listened to your episode.
He goes, I liked it. And I was like, hey, thanks.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I hadn't you know, it's
funny because I don't think about it. on the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: day to day, you
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::[Robb]: Right.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, I'm just we do our
recording and then you do more than I do with
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it. Like you said, I'm
just the talent. So
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::[Robb]: You're
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I
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::[Robb]: just
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: just
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::[Robb]: a talent.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: sit down, I just show up
and talk. So, you know, I wasn't really thinking
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: about it, but I love hearing
that somebody's listened and I love when they
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: have an opinion whether,
you know, some people tell me you talk too
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: fast. Some people say you
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I didn't see any of that,
but okay, you know, I like to hear what everybody
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: else has to say. So thank
you guys for letting me know that you're listening
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and thank you all for listening.
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::[Robb]: Yes, very much so.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: So check out our socials real quick,
Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. Check us out
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::[Robb]: on all the platforms, subscribe or follow,
and it is free, so just click on it, and you
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::[Robb]: get to hear us every Wednesday. This
week on our hundredth episode,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehe
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::[Robb]: you know, we kinda talked off the air
one time about what we wanted to talk about,
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::[Robb]: and one of these kinda came up where
it's like, dating these days, like how quickly
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::[Robb]: do you have sex? Or how quick do people
assume that that's going to happen? And I,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mmm.
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::[Robb]: for me, it's like, I don't date much.
So I have dated in the last year, but mostly
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::[Robb]: one and done's just dinners. Um, I talked
to one girl.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You're not screwing him
on the first night. Oh. Ha ha
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::[Robb]: No,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: ha. Ha ha.
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::[Robb]: no, that's That's definitely not my
thing.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?
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::[Robb]: I need to actually understand people
before I can ever get down that road.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Do you ever really understand
people though? Come on.
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::[Robb]: I mean, no, but
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehe
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::[Robb]: I think that there's a close, if you're
in the 90 percentile of knowing someone, look,
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::[Robb]: there's always gonna be something someone
doesn't want to tell you for whatever reason,
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::[Robb]: or it just never comes up. Some things
don't come up in conversation. I'm kinda crazy
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::[Robb]: about it, cause I like to grill people.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehehehehe
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::[Robb]: because I talk so like I'm always down
to talk about anything like I want to know
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::[Robb]: if you're damaged it's okay and because
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah
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::[Robb]: it's okay to be damaged no do you know
what I mean
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yep.
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::[Robb]: like I think I think we're all broken
a little bit mostly at our age I think once
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::[Robb]: you get into this age period you're
broken and you're held together by glue and
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::[Robb]: tape and sawdust and whatever else it
is And I think you're okay, but you're definitely
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::[Robb]: not 20 and haven't experienced the world
yet. And I think that is what kind of, that
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::[Robb]: breaks you, the world breaks you.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't think the world
breaks you. I don't feel broken. I feel like
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I did some things that
probably weren't the smartest idea. I've done
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: things that have taught
me a lot more than what I thought I needed
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to know. I don't know though
that I feel broken.
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::[Robb]: See, I think we're all broken to some
degree and that it's okay to be broken. Because
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::[Robb]: look, we all have walked down these
really wild roads or been on these, and I'm
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::[Robb]: lucky, I don't think I've done anything
too crazy, but I think that I understand that
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::[Robb]: I have my own issues. Maybe that's what
I mean by broken. But I think when it comes
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::[Robb]: to knowing someone, you should know
them before you sleep with them. Myself, I
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::[Robb]: think that it's just a better idea.
Get to know who this person is before you do
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::[Robb]: something super intimate.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: I guess if your long-term goal is a
relationship, because obviously if you're just
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::[Robb]: out there,
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::[Robb]: going around, sleeping around, and that's
what you're looking for, I think that that's
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::[Robb]: okay, if that's what you're looking
for. But if you're looking for a relationship,
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::[Robb]: you definitely need to try to understand
who the person is.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm. I definitely agree
with that.
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::[Robb]: But I would guess at least from the
female side. it's probably pushed way quicker
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::[Robb]: to have sex than it is being a male.
Women aren't
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm
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::[Robb]: pushing
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: sure.
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::[Robb]: as much. I've had one person do it.
Actually, I've had two people do it. One, many,
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::[Robb]: many years ago when I was still living
in Cam, I went on a date, a couple of dates
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::[Robb]: with this one girl. She was nice, kinda
cool, but she was the one that was on the...
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::[Robb]: the online dating podcast we did where
I said it was just freaky and called me on
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::[Robb]: a Sunday and told me to come over to
her house and stay the night.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Okay.
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::[Robb]: And she was like, I don't wanna sleep
with you. And I was like, look, there's no
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::[Robb]: other reason to go over there. And then
I dated someone else a couple of times, went
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::[Robb]: out for food, talked a little bit, and
under the guise of alcohol, said a bunch of
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::[Robb]: things. that the next day was like,
yeah, I'm really sorry I said that. So even
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::[Robb]: that probably wasn't, you know, a hundred
percent true, but there was probably an in-between.
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::[Robb]: Do you think that it's way more pushed
on women by men, like
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: to go down the line very quickly?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh yeah. Like there is
no line. It's like let's just have sex and
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: then we'll see if we can
get to know each other. Like,
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::[Robb]: Wow, like,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah.
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::[Robb]: I don't
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Like
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::[Robb]: get that.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's, it's... I don't think...
I don't really think guys are into it to stay
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: into it though, to be honest
with you. And it could go back to how guys
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't want to be in a relationship
because of what they'll lose or the
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::[Robb]: Right.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: freedom that they'll give
up. I know women aren't really good to men
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: from what I hear, you know?
So
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't... I definitely
say that in dating you get... kind of badgered
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a little bit to do that,
or it's expected, or even if you say, like,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that's not what I'm into,
they will still try for sure. But I'm also
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a pretty strong woman,
so I only do what I want to do, and it doesn't
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::[Robb]: Sure.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: matter what they want,
and, you know,
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::[Robb]: Right. Even if
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's not
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::[Robb]: the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: hard
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::[Robb]: guys...
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to get out of that situation,
though.
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::[Robb]: I'm sure. I'm sure the guys like poured
on though. You know what I mean? Like they
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::[Robb]: throw on the sexy voice and everything.
They're like, yeah, baby. Hey, check it out.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't even think they're
that cool or slick anymore. You know what
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::[Robb]: Really?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I mean? No, I wish like
if a guy had like uber personality, he was
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, yeah, baby, like
it he just like poured it on I would at least
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: be entertained. Right?
It would it would get him in a second date,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know,
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::[Robb]: Right,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: but
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::[Robb]: right.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: uh, but no, that's not
even like what happens. It's just like, it's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: expected. I'm like, dude,
we went to a taco truck. There's no f in way.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm letting you stick it
in me. I don't
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::[Robb]: Right.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: do you even know my last
name? Do you do you even know how old I am
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like there's There's like
certain things. I think people may want to
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know before they do that
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::[Robb]: Yeah, yeah, I think that should be the
norm. I'm sure that there's a limit. Like,
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::[Robb]: I'm sure, and again, I'm just playing
it by ear. I don't know. Most of the guys that
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::[Robb]: I know aren't in the dating field. Every
guy that I work is married, with the exception
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::[Robb]: of a really young kid. So they're not
even in that market, but I'm going to assume
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::[Robb]: that there's a certain amount of date
limit. that
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: a guy will take.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't know. Ha ha.
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::[Robb]: I don't either. I mean, I don't know.
Like I said, I'm a little old school and I
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::[Robb]: don't wanna say old fashioned because
I'm not old fashioned, but I think that there's
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::[Robb]: things
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You'd like to
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::[Robb]: that
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know
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::[Robb]: you,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a last name first?
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::[Robb]: I mean a last name, your kids, your
story, what you've done in life. I don't care
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::[Robb]: what you do for a living and I know
that women ask, that's like one of the biggest
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::[Robb]: questions. For
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well
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::[Robb]: me,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah, they
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::[Robb]: if...
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't want a loser they
gotta take care of, but I don't think men do
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: either.
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::[Robb]: No, but if you ask me that right away,
I'm super turned off. Uh,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, if you're on a dating
site though, doesn't it kind of say that before
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you even meet a person?
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::[Robb]: Yeah, but I think that that's ambiguous
though. Like mine would say sales. That could
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::[Robb]: mean anything.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: right?
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::[Robb]: That could mean I'm a drug dealer. I
mean, if you really wanna go, you know what
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::[Robb]: I mean? Like if you wanna be, I could
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: That
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::[Robb]: be
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: would
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::[Robb]: a guy
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: make
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::[Robb]: who's,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: for an interesting story.
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::[Robb]: yeah, but I mean, that could mean that
I just stay at home all the time and I'm a
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::[Robb]: dirt bag and. You know, I sell drugs
out of my house that doesn't mean that you're
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::[Robb]: in sales, but I mean it does For
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You are definitely
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::[Robb]: me though
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: in sales.
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::[Robb]: Yeah, hey, you're in sales. That's for
sure but for me, it's like look I understand
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::[Robb]: that you want to Kind of get where you're
at. But like if you're leading with you know,
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::[Robb]: what do you do for a living? How much
do you make? I'm like, yeah. All right Eat
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::[Robb]: your food so I can go home.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You're right the food
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::[Robb]: Seriously.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: just that I just bought
with the job you're trying to see
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::[Robb]: Yeah,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: how much I make yeah
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::[Robb]: and I'm okay, I pay for dinners.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: If I go out with someone, I pay for
dinner. If I go out to lunch with you, I generally
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::[Robb]: pay for lunch, with the exception of
me and you, where it's a business thing. You
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::[Robb]: know, we're usually discussing business.
So...
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, we work that out.
It's not a big deal.
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::[Robb]: But you know what I mean though? For
me, I generally do that. And if it's a date,
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::[Robb]: I definitely do it. I just think that
that's the right thing to do. And coming from
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::[Robb]: how I was raised, you open up the door
for her, the normal gentlemanly things is what
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::[Robb]: I do. If I pick you up, I open the door.
That's just what I do.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: That is more the exception
today than the rule, especially in dating.
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::[Robb]: I'm sure.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, for sure. But I gotta
tell you that when I go out on a date, if they
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't do those things,
like if they just can't be, you know, if they
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: just can't be the man in
their relationship, there isn't a second date
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and there
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::[Robb]: Right.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: certainly isn't sex. You
know what I mean? That's, you blew it.
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::[Robb]: Right, right. I just think that it's
too bad that it's thought about so easily that
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::[Robb]: it should be on the first date. I think
that
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well,
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::[Robb]: that's...
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: if that's what you're going
for and both of you know that that's what you're
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: going for, then alright,
fine. But if you want it to have any sort of
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: longevity, you might
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: want to get to know the
person.
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::[Robb]: Correct. To me, that's the whole thing,
but assuming that the reason you're dating
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::[Robb]: is you want to meet someone for your
life, I want to know who you are as a human
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::[Robb]: being way
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: before, because I want my mind turned
on way before I want anything
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?
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::[Robb]: else. It's so important to me that you
make me think. make me wonder. Those are the
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::[Robb]: things that, and look, don't get me
wrong, like if you wanna smooch a little bit
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::[Robb]: and you're feeling it, cool. But even
that I think shouldn't go too far. I think
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::[Robb]: there's something about that slowly
taking away the layers to get to sleeping with
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::[Robb]: somebody.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right? I think that, I
think too that in dating, I've noticed that
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: people don't have any incentive
to even put any effort in and if somebody doesn't
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: show an initiative, if
they don't show that they want to put anything
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: into it, there isn't a
second date either. And there isn't sex either,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know? It's like, no,
we're not, no.
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::[Robb]: Right. I mean, I like talking with people.
So maybe, and I'm dense when it comes to some
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::[Robb]: things. Like I don't read that sexual
energy very well. I'm kind of just like oblivious
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::[Robb]: to it. I'm like, hey, cool. This is
a good time. Unless it's pretty straightforward.
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::[Robb]: I did. And it's funny, all the dates
that I went on, there was nothing. Like some
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::[Robb]: of them, I'm afraid to hug people now
because I don't know
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Really?
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::[Robb]: how, just because I don't know how they're
gonna take it. Some people
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm.
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::[Robb]: are so drawn back by it. It's like you're
jumping the gun or something. Should I shake
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::[Robb]: your hand? Should I give you a hug?
And generally, if I do give a hug, I give the
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::[Robb]: old communicators kind of half hug.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehe
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::[Robb]: where I'm like, I'm embracing you, but
I'm not embracing you.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: I did go to lunch with a friend last
week, and she's a really good friend of mine,
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::[Robb]: so I gave her a hug, and that's how
I give people that I'm comfortable with a hug.
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::[Robb]: But in a date now, I just don't know
how people are going to react. Most of them
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::[Robb]: are from our age group, because I don't
want to date. I wouldn't date now. I have a
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::[Robb]: very short window for dating. It's like
three years younger and two years older.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Wow, okay.
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::[Robb]: Yeah, I don't want to date young people
at all. I've been down that road and it is
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::[Robb]: horrible.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hahaha
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::[Robb]: There's nothing good that comes from
it, for me. So like we're talking maybe 47,
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::[Robb]: 48, 47. So that would be like
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Five
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::[Robb]: five
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and
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::[Robb]: years
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: five.
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::[Robb]: younger.
340
::[Robb]: And because
341
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I am.
342
::[Robb]: I think you start missing things in
common. You know what I mean? Like three years
343
::[Robb]: is like,
344
::[Robb]: I look at like high school years, right?
When it comes to knowing and remembering things.
345
::[Robb]: Like hey, do you remember this? And
they're like, no, I was in junior high. And
346
::[Robb]: you're like, oh. Or no, I was in, you
know, barely going into, you know. Pre-K. I
347
::[Robb]: dated a girl 20 years younger than me.
Horrible. Oh my God. She was a mess.
348
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: So I get it. I dated this
guy's profile was wrong, but he looked he looked
349
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: young, but I was like,
well, maybe it's an old picture or whatever.
350
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But we went out and we
had a great time. He was a teacher and he's
351
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: very smart and came from
a totally different world. So we had so much
352
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to talk about, you know,
to bridge the gap. But I found out he was 30
353
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: years old and I was 50.
one
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and I was like holy crap
you didn't tell me you were
356
::[Robb]: Yeah.
357
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: 30. You were 30 and he's
like oh I'm sorry I'm like you didn't do that
358
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: on purpose did you and
he started laughing he goes no because I didn't
359
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: think you'd date me I said
well I wouldn't have and we dated oh we dated
360
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a while. I mean, I had
fun with him. I didn't take things
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: super serious, but he didn't
want to be super serious.
363
::[Robb]: Right.
364
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But because he was a teacher
and he had a brain and he knew how to act.
365
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: He's like, I'd really like
to take you on a date. And we went on a date
366
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and then he took me on
another date and it just started evolving.
367
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But I got to tell you,
he was much more mature than guys our age,
368
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know, because
369
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I've gone out with a couple
of guys our age and I'm like, dude, what is
371
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: wrong? with you? Were you
stuck in like a time warp and you forgot how
372
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to act and you forgot how
old you were and what you should have for yourself
373
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: at this point? Like you
should be established in something by the age
374
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: of 52.
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::[Robb]: Yeah, I agree with that. I think that
there's a limit of,
376
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
377
::[Robb]: I think socially you should be at a
certain level.
378
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?
379
::[Robb]: Men are always gonna be infantile and
like dick jokes. Like we're
380
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well,
381
::[Robb]: always gonna
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I like
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::[Robb]: be
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: dick
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::[Robb]: like
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: jokes,
387
::[Robb]: that.
388
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: so.
389
::[Robb]: No, but you know what I mean? Or like
we're still gonna be geeky over sci-fi movies
390
::[Robb]: or whatever it is. Some things we don't
change out of, but I think you should be established
391
::[Robb]: in like, You take care of yourself,
you got a car, you have a job, you pay your
392
::[Robb]: rent on time.
393
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You have a place to live.
Yeah, you're
394
::[Robb]: Right.
395
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: not homeless or
396
::[Robb]: Yeah. I mean, even when I moved
397
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: living
398
::[Robb]: out
399
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: in
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::[Robb]: here,
401
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: rehab.
402
::[Robb]: yeah, well, that's a whole other monster.
403
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: No.
404
::[Robb]: A friend of mine told me I should get
out of my last situation, because no one was
405
::[Robb]: gonna want to date someone who lives,
is renting rooms from somebody. And I kind
406
::[Robb]: of get that because I was like, yeah,
you're right. Because who's and my roommate
407
::[Robb]: was a 34 year old girl.
408
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
409
::[Robb]: So it does look weird. And for me, it
was like, look, I had a good place to stay.
410
::[Robb]: I had a good thing going. Like I was
only paying:411
::[Robb]: with nothing else. I didn't pay water.
412
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
413
::[Robb]: I didn't pay anything. So I had a great
414
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Nice.
415
::[Robb]: deal going. But at the end, yes, she's
correct. Like I needed to get out. and show
416
::[Robb]: that I could be on my own again and
that kind of thing. So I understand that. I
417
::[Robb]: just think that the, who you meet now
is a whole other thing as well. If you're meeting
418
::[Robb]: somebody who's just coming out of a
long-term relationship, they may be set back
419
::[Robb]: into party mode. You know what I mean?
Where you're like, oh, I can't, I don't wanna
420
::[Robb]: go down that road. I don't want someone
who's like every weekend's like, hey, we're
421
::[Robb]: going to the bar, are we going to this
way? No, we can go do things together, but
422
::[Robb]: I don't want to be in that situation
either, because that just leads
423
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
424
::[Robb]: to other issues.
425
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?
426
::[Robb]: But I think that the sex part is definitely
gonna be thrown in to those situations as well,
427
::[Robb]: to get down quickly. Like when you start
adding alcohol to things, that's a whole other
428
::[Robb]: monster as well.
429
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
430
::[Robb]: Like I think the first couple of dates,
if you go on dates, at least for me, if I go
431
::[Robb]: out on a date, I have one drink, nothing
more, nothing less.
432
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, I'm not a drinker
at all, so.
433
::[Robb]: But I just do it because I want to have
a sober mind.
434
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
435
::[Robb]: Like I wanna make sure that I'm saying
the right things that I mean and I'm not getting
436
::[Robb]: out of control. Unless you know the
person and you're going out and. you know,
437
::[Robb]: doing that kind of thing. I'm okay with
that, but not on dates now, not first dates.
438
::[Robb]: There's too much to lose.
439
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I get that.
440
::[Robb]: You know, one person says, oh, they
did this, and you're in prison. So I think
441
::[Robb]: for men as well, you have to step back
and wonder about having sex with someone. Because
442
::[Robb]: under the guise of it was consensual,
you may end up not someone else saying it wasn't
443
::[Robb]: because
444
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
445
::[Robb]: they made a mistake or, you know. they
were under the influence. So for me, I stay
446
::[Robb]: far away from that because the last
thing I want is anything like that.
447
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's got to be different
for a man than a woman because I don't even
448
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: think about that. Like
nobody, I don't feel like anybody's going to
449
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: scream rape at any given
time. You know what I mean? Because
450
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
451
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm a female, so it's a
little bit different. But I also don't do things
452
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: forcefully. I don't do
things that would... make anybody think that
453
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: but I would imagine being
a man, it doesn't matter one way or another
454
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: if a woman wants to scream
as she's going to.
455
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
456
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: That would be kind of scary.
I never really thought about that to be honest
457
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: with you.
458
::[Robb]: Well, and let's say you've been talking
with someone for quite a while.
459
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
460
::[Robb]: You've went out on one date, but you've
talked about certain sexual things you're into.
461
::[Robb]: And let's say you're
462
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
463
::[Robb]: into rough sex. And you're working towards
these things. By the time you have sex with
464
::[Robb]: each other, you know certain things.
what's the line that you have to draw in the
465
::[Robb]: sand of, you know, the one, what if
she says, you know, I want you to choke me.
466
::[Robb]: or I want you to this or I want you
to that, it's a slippery slope of how far you
467
::[Robb]: go
468
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I do
469
::[Robb]: into
470
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you do
471
::[Robb]: that.
472
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that on our first like
do you do that when you're first having sex
473
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: either? I don't
474
::[Robb]: I don't know,
475
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I Really? How
476
::[Robb]: but you could.
477
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: damn am I missing something?
478
::[Robb]: I mean, I think you could go down that
road if you've been, let's say you've gone
479
::[Robb]: out on two dates and you haven't had
sex yet, but you've been talking about you
480
::[Robb]: know, like time passes and you text
each other and ha and you're flirting and you're
481
::[Robb]: like, oh, are you, you know, what do
you think of this? Or what do you think of
482
::[Robb]: that? Or, you know, a ha text like,
ooh, I have handcuffs. And then there's another
483
::[Robb]: situation or another talking point that
now goes down this different road and you start
484
::[Robb]: saying, oh, well, are you into this?
Or are you into that? Are you into this? So
485
::[Robb]: by the time sex comes, let's see you
decide to have sex on date four. you know,
486
::[Robb]: what's expected. It's a...
487
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's a free for all. No,
I'm kidding.
488
::[Robb]: but for a guy,
489
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm kidding.
490
::[Robb]: for a guy, do I want to go down that
road? I don't know. If I leave too many marks
491
::[Robb]: on her, is she going to wake up the
next day and be like, I didn't want any of
492
::[Robb]: this?
493
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, I would think that
the trick is to not leave any marks on her
494
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: for one, you know, until
495
::[Robb]: I don't
496
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you
497
::[Robb]: know.
498
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: are really good and sure
that she's not going to be
499
::[Robb]: Mmm,
500
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: freaking
501
::[Robb]: okay.
502
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: out on you.
503
::[Robb]: Yeah, because
504
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I mean,
505
::[Robb]: some girls
506
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I wouldn't
507
::[Robb]: like that
508
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: leave
509
::[Robb]: too.
510
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: marks. And I would also
make sure I kept all the messages that said
511
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: what she was into and what
she wanted and how she wanted it and described
512
::[Robb]: That's very
513
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: everything
514
::[Robb]: true.
515
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: as well. I think you need
to be smart about it. You know, I don't know.
516
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't really know if,
I don't know. I think that's, you just gotta
517
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: learn to pick somebody
that you can trust. I mean, I guess that's
518
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the key point, because
if you don't trust somebody, you shouldn't
519
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: lay down with them in the
first place. And if you don't know how they're
520
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: gonna react, I definitely
wouldn't do it, especially
521
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
522
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: if it's sexual.
523
::[Robb]: Yeah.
524
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: So you kinda gotta know
your place in the reality of the relationship
525
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: from the
526
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
527
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: get go. But I don't know,
my experience is that guys don't care to talk
528
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: about it, they just want
to do it. And I get it. I get that sex is a
529
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: big deal and I get that
it's important and I get that if you're single
530
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and you've been single
for a while, you want to do that. But... If
531
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you don't know who you're
laying down with you don't know who you're
532
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: laying down with there
could
533
::[Robb]: Correct.
534
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: be so many You know so
many sex partners so many things that could
535
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: have happened so many And
and I don't like to talk about all that stuff.
536
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't think it's anybody's
business what my past was But I you should
537
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: at least know that they're
a solid person. You should at least know that
538
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: they're Being honest about
what they're talking about or that they're
539
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: being forthright with you
that you know, whatever you're talking about
540
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But I think you really
got to listen to your instincts, too I think
541
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that's so important if
you're gonna lay down with somebody you need
542
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to know that person's gonna
be a solid person for you or is You yeah, take
543
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: your time to get to know
a person I don't know four dates is even enough
544
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: time to get to know somebody.
545
::[Robb]: No,
546
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't
547
::[Robb]: I agree.
548
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: think it is like
549
::[Robb]: I don't
550
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But
551
::[Robb]: think it
552
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: is
553
::[Robb]: is either.
554
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it is it enough to have
sex? I mean I Wouldn't pull out the handcuffs
555
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: then I mean although handcuffs
are so, they're not even that bad. But I guess
556
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: if you got somebody tied
up and you're, you leave them alone for a couple
557
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: hours, it could be. I don't,
I don't know that I would trust somebody with
558
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: handcuffs if they were
going to tie me up, not tie me up, but you
559
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, put
560
::[Robb]: Yes.
561
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the cuffs on me. I'd put
them on them and good luck. You know, if I,
562
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: if I walk out, I may not
remember to come back. So you might want to
563
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: wait on that.
564
::[Robb]: Right. I think that, look, and it all
matters what is said in between these four
565
::[Robb]: dates, obviously. How much
566
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah,
567
::[Robb]: time
568
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: for sure.
569
::[Robb]: are you talking with each other? Are
you communicating? Are you actually talking?
570
::[Robb]: That's another lost art. People don't
talk on the telephone anymore. Or like, I would
571
::[Robb]: rather schedule.
572
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Think you should talk in
person if you're gonna be having sex and doing
573
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: crazy shit like that. I
think
574
::[Robb]: Oh,
575
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you should
576
::[Robb]: no, I agree, but I'm saying like in
between dates. Like everything doesn't have
577
::[Robb]: to be a date. I think once you have
a couple of dates, it's okay to go have coffee
578
::[Robb]: and talk or go out to just have dinner
and go, look, let's meet for dinner and then
579
::[Robb]: go home afterwards and then go on a
date on the weekend and go do something. Maybe
580
::[Robb]: I just, I look at things different,
and I haven't dated like for real in a long
581
::[Robb]: time. The only dates that I've gone
on are dinner dates. Like I've gone out to
582
::[Robb]: have dinner with somebody and that is
all. So I didn't even like really do like,
583
::[Robb]: hey, do you wanna go do this or do you
wanna go do that? I just, because I think now
584
::[Robb]: to get to know someone or meet somebody,
it's easier just to go get coffee or eat. At
585
::[Robb]: least that's what
586
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
587
::[Robb]: I have been in. But.
588
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know,
589
::[Robb]: Maybe I'm
590
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I,
591
::[Robb]: outside.
592
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: oh shit, sorry about that.
Um, I have been asked out for coffee after
593
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: telling somebody I don't
drink coffee. So it's like, I don't drink coffee,
594
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: but I guess I'll go with
you, but already I'm like, I'm not, I'm not
595
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: entertained by you because
you didn't hear me when I said I don't drink
596
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it. I don't mind if we
go and grab, you know, grab a coffee for you,
597
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: but... Again, what am I
going to do? Just sit there and look at you
598
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and drink water because
that's literally what I would do.
599
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
600
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, so right there,
I'm always I'm already like, he didn't listen
601
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to me. Okay. And,
602
::[Robb]: Yeah.
603
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and I don't mean to sound
like I'm judging people in order to blow them
604
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: off from the get go. I'm
not saying that at all. What I'm saying is,
605
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: if you're wanting to date
me, you should hear me because I'm very I will
606
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: communicate with you. You'll
know from the get where I'm at with things
607
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: because I'll just tell
you that's just who I am. I'm not trying to
608
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: hide anything. But if you
heard it and it's not what I'm into, it would
609
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it would benefit you to
try something else.
610
::[Robb]: Correct.
611
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You might get a little
bit further with me if you do that, you know.
612
::[Robb]: Right, I think that you should be able
to work around that kind of thing, obviously.
613
::[Robb]: I mean, if you don't drink and you don't
drink coffee, there's gotta be something else
614
::[Robb]: you can do. Like,
615
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
616
::[Robb]: hey, do you wanna go get ice cream?
Do you wanna go just do something where you
617
::[Robb]: can both sit and chat
618
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right,
619
::[Robb]: while,
620
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: let's go grab sandwiches
and sit in a park and just
621
::[Robb]: right.
622
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: sit under a tree or something
and talk. You know, that's throw a frisbee
623
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: around. I mean, it doesn't
have to be spending a shit ton of money every
624
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: time you go out with somebody.
625
::[Robb]: I wonder what the average answer from
a girl would be though if you asked them, hey,
626
::[Robb]: do you want to just go pick something
up and go to the park? And again, maybe I'm
627
::[Robb]: living in the Twilight Zone, but I think
that wouldn't go over very well these days.
628
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that
629
::[Robb]: Like
630
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: what wouldn't go over
631
::[Robb]: just
632
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like.
633
::[Robb]: going to pick up a sandwich and going
to the park and talking.
634
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: That would totally be fun
for me because that's not something that anybody's
635
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: let's go out to dinner
I could I could buy my own dinner. I could
636
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: go anywhere I want and
guess what? I won't even have to I won't even
637
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: have to compromise like
I could do that But if you if somebody if somebody
638
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: really wanted to get my
attention They would say something other than
639
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: coffee or let's go to dinner.
They would say hey, I got tickets to a dodger
640
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: game or uh you want to
go roller skating in the park because I would
641
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: so do that I'd be
642
::[Robb]: All right.
643
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that chick that would and
I'd really be like ah there's somebody with
644
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a brain like he's actually
trying
645
::[Robb]: Yeah, I think that that's a dating thing
though. Like to me, what is something that
646
::[Robb]: we can both sit down and talk and still
get something out of it? I think that's why
647
::[Robb]: dinner always works, because we all
have to eat and look, I guess I would maybe
648
::[Robb]: throw ice cream in there, because that
is something you can both go and still discuss
649
::[Robb]: things and be ha about it. I think the
park's a great idea. I've spent a lot of time
650
::[Robb]: with people in a park. So I love the
idea of a park. I love the idea of a park car,
651
::[Robb]: but maybe I'm just, I think it's fun
to just sit and chat with people. Everything
652
::[Robb]: doesn't, you're right, everything doesn't
have to be this, you know,
653
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It doesn't
654
::[Robb]: monumentous
655
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: need to be all grandiose,
656
::[Robb]: thing.
657
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it doesn't, but it does
have to be something that's going to catch
658
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: my attention.
659
::[Robb]: I agree, but I think a date should do
that. I'm talking about some things in between
660
::[Robb]: these dates you've already been on.
Because
661
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
662
::[Robb]: you know, this is where we're talking
about what leads to sex. These intimate conversations
663
::[Robb]: in between your having dates. And I'm
talking about, the first date should be a date.
664
::[Robb]: You should take someone somewhere and
have a nice time. If you're going to go on
665
::[Robb]: a date, take them to do something, sit
down and have dinner. discuss a couple of things,
666
::[Robb]: take them home, and finish the night
with however you wanna finish it, with a hug
667
::[Robb]: or a kiss, thank you very much, ask
them on a second date if that's where you're
668
::[Robb]: going with it. But the conversations
between dates, because if you have one, two,
669
::[Robb]: or three good dates, I think it's okay
to go, hey, let's go meet and have a sandwich
670
::[Robb]: in the park.
671
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Absolutely, absolutely.
And
672
::[Robb]: because
673
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: or let's go let's go drive
to the beach and get
674
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
675
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: some clam chowder on the
war at the wharf
676
::[Robb]: A
677
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and
678
::[Robb]: wharf.
679
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: then just walk around.
Cool. That
680
::[Robb]: Yeah.
681
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that to me is like, oh,
somebody's saying something
682
::[Robb]: Exactly.
683
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: more than coffee or dinner.
Coffee or dinner tells me you're boring.
684
::[Robb]: City walk.
685
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You really does.
686
::[Robb]: Something like
687
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: City
688
::[Robb]: city
689
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: walk.
690
::[Robb]: walk.
691
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
692
::[Robb]: Or in the IE there's a mall called Victoria
Gardens. It's like this outdoor mall. It's
693
::[Robb]: like, it's a great place that I think
if you really just wanted to walk around, see
694
::[Robb]: a little atmosphere, they got some cool
like restaurants and bars They have a movie
695
::[Robb]: theater there, but it's an outdoor place
where you could walk and just kinda sit down.
696
::[Robb]: They have park benches and stuff in
there. Places like that where you're still
697
::[Robb]: discussing things, you can people watch,
you can talk. To me, these are the things that
698
::[Robb]: are going to lead you to a intimate
relationship. When you're getting to understand
699
::[Robb]: these people and you can, you know,
I mean, at least for me, it's still that. You
700
::[Robb]: can bump into each other or whenever
you finally hold a hand. I'm one, I love that
701
::[Robb]: part of it. I love holding hands. I
think it's just a, that's the first step to
702
::[Robb]: intimacy. It's that first reaction.
703
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm.
704
::[Robb]: When you hold someone's hand, what's
the reaction? That's how I read somebody though.
705
::[Robb]: That would be that
706
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know,
707
::[Robb]: first body language.
708
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I think for me, like what
I what I like is when somebody just reaches
709
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: over and puts their hand
like on my leg,
710
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
711
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: not to rub my crotch, not
like her. Don't take it any further than just,
712
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know, put your like,
touch me, not in an. that is kind of an intimate
713
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: way, but not in a sexual
way. It's in
714
::[Robb]: Correct.
715
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a very sweet way.
716
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
717
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And, and that goes for
me that goes a long way. I know that I did
718
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that to somebody and I
felt like he was, he didn't know how to act
719
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: with that, but I wasn't
rubbing him. I wasn't inappropriate. I did
720
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it for a few minutes and
then I moved my hand like I tried to make it
721
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: as smooth as possible because
I wasn't trying to. I wasn't trying to get
722
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: in his pants. I wasn't
trying to rub and see how big he was. Because
723
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I know that there's, I
have had friends say that they do that to see
724
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: how big his dick is. I
wasn't going to do that. That was not what
725
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I was going for. But I
was having a good time with them and we were
726
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: joking and laughing and
I just put my hand there. I just put my hand
727
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: there. But I think he was
a little uncomfortable. So I didn't make it
728
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: uncomfortable. I didn't
pull away real quick. But I waited. waited
729
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a couple minutes and then
just casually did something else so that it
730
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: didn't have to feel uncomfortable
to anybody.
731
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm, right. I think that is the start
of those good things.
732
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
733
::[Robb]: Yeah.
734
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And you know, we still
talk, we still we've gone out a couple times,
735
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: but I'm not quick to do
that again, because I didn't get the
736
::[Robb]: Reaction.
737
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: The reaction.
738
::[Robb]: Yeah, I
739
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
740
::[Robb]: think that there's something to that
as well. Those are the things that are gonna
741
::[Robb]: lead you to having an intimate relationship
with somebody. First time you hold hands, sometimes,
742
::[Robb]: or first time you put your hand on their
leg, or maybe at the bottom of their back,
743
::[Robb]: just to kinda see, I hate to say how
far you can go, but it is kind of that, where
744
::[Robb]: you're volleying you know, things back
at each other with these small things
745
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: but they're
746
::[Robb]: where...
747
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: non-sexual cues.
748
::[Robb]: Correct,
749
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I
750
::[Robb]: exactly.
751
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: think that's exactly what
you should do. I love when somebody opens the
752
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: door for me and I go to
walk in and they do put their hand like on
753
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: my
754
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
755
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: back, not on my ass. I
mean, that's
756
::[Robb]: No,
757
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: for later on. I like that
758
::[Robb]: exactly.
759
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: too,
760
::[Robb]: That's,
761
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: just
762
::[Robb]: but
763
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: not
764
::[Robb]: that's,
765
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: in the beginning.
766
::[Robb]: that's relationship things though to
me.
767
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, but I like that they're
kind of guiding me in or
768
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
769
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: they're... You're very
together once somebody does that with you.
770
::[Robb]: To me, it's a protective thing too.
771
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yes.
772
::[Robb]: I know that I'm going through the door
last, there's no one that's gonna get you from
773
::[Robb]: behind me, they're gonna get
774
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
775
::[Robb]: me first. And now you going through
the door, I can be behind you, I can see the
776
::[Robb]: rest of the crowd that I'm in or whatever,
and now I can decide if I wanna take your hand
777
::[Robb]: and now I'm gonna lead you a certain
way. Like if I'm at a concert with somebody,
778
::[Robb]: and I wanna go a certain way, I will
grab their hand and I'll tell them, you follow
779
::[Robb]: me, because I'm moving and I'm moving
people out of the way. You just make sure you
780
::[Robb]: stay right behind me and I'm gonna get
through things. That's the leadership part
781
::[Robb]: of being a man where later on they're
going to understand intimately that you're
782
::[Robb]: going to take care of them on whatever
level. To me, that's what it means.
783
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It very much as for a woman,
for me personally, it very much defines who
784
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the man is in the relationship
and who the woman is. And, and, you know, we
785
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: both have the genitalia,
which says what it should be. But, you know,
786
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: if a guy is going through
the door first, and he's, you know, I have
787
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to worry about him. Kind
of got
788
::[Robb]: Right.
789
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the roles reversed. You
know what I mean?
790
::[Robb]: Yeah, I like to be the protector. That's
what it should be. I was at a concert with
791
::[Robb]: somebody and I remember being in the
pit with them and they had not been in pits
792
::[Robb]: like mosh pits. And it wasn't crazy,
but it was moving. And I remember I put my
793
::[Robb]: arms around her and was like, just,
you know, I gotcha. and there were people bouncing,
794
::[Robb]: coming close, and I would put my hands
out to make sure she didn't get hit. And to
795
::[Robb]: me, that's just what you do. Mostly
for someone who you wanna be close to the band,
796
::[Robb]: but you don't want to be in the shit.
797
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
798
::[Robb]: And those to me are moments where you're
saying, look, I got you here, I'm not gonna
799
::[Robb]: let you get hurt. Even if it's just
a date. I think even on a simple date, it's
800
::[Robb]: still the man's job to be a protector.
My
801
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
802
::[Robb]: job is to make sure you get home safe
that night, regardless. If we had the worst
803
::[Robb]: time in the world, if we have two separate
cars, I'm going to send you away in a car and
804
::[Robb]: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna check on you
or text me when you get home, whether we talk
805
::[Robb]: ever again, doesn't matter to me. I
wanna make sure that you get home safe. So
806
::[Robb]: those are
807
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
808
::[Robb]: those are those cues of to me, the things
that are gonna lead you to these intimate relationships.
809
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: So what do you think, what
do you think the date, what do you think, how
810
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: many dates should you have
before you have sex with somebody? What do
811
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you think?
812
::[Robb]: I don't think there's a number. It's
how you feel. I think you should be able to
813
::[Robb]: talk to somebody because you, look,
if you're going through these cues, right,
814
::[Robb]: and you're doing whatever, holding hands,
get here, I think once you decide to have a
815
::[Robb]: first kiss, and I don't mean like stick
your tongue down her throat, I'm talking about
816
::[Robb]: a nice, soft kiss at the end of the
night. From then, it's okay, we've had four
817
::[Robb]: dates or three dates and a kiss, now
we're gonna go out again and now you start
818
::[Robb]: laying the groundwork for is she ready,
at least as a man.
819
::[Robb]: I think you should talk to people. Make
sure you're both in the same head space. To
820
::[Robb]: me, I was with somebody before we ever
had sex. She asked me to get a... STD test.
821
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mmm.
822
::[Robb]: which I was like, all right, whatever,
I'll go. I don't care. And these days, I think
823
::[Robb]: that is safe.
824
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's really smart.
825
::[Robb]: It is super smart. And
826
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
827
::[Robb]: I think that everyone should have that
to where if you think you're going to be intimate
828
::[Robb]: with somebody, make sure you're all
safe. And she did the same. She had just got
829
::[Robb]: an STD test. These are things that,
look, nobody wants to carry anything along
830
::[Robb]: with them. You know what I mean? I just
don't, and if you're promiscuous, before you
831
::[Robb]: get into this serious relationship,
you should have the gonads to go get this test
832
::[Robb]: done and make sure that everyone's safe.
Because a test doesn't cost that much, and
833
::[Robb]: you'll know in several days.
834
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I think it's good just
to do that anyway if you're dating or you're
835
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: single. I think it's good
too every time you have, you know,
836
::[Robb]: Blood work?
837
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: blood work you should ask
your doctor to do all that too. I mean there's
838
::[Robb]: Yep.
839
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: nothing wrong with doing
that.
840
::[Robb]: I do that no matter what, whether
841
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I do too.
842
::[Robb]: I've had sex a month ago or two years
ago.
843
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: So listen to this. So I
was still on my ex's insurance because we weren't
844
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: quite divorced yet.
845
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
846
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And the paperwork came
to the house because I went to the doctor and
847
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the doctor ran all the
tests. And I said, hey, while you're at it,
848
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: run this test too, you
know, just because it's good practice,
849
::[Robb]: Correct.
850
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know? So, and...
851
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I had a conversation with
him. He says, there's something we need to
852
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: talk about. And I'm like,
there's always something we need to talk about.
853
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: What do you want
854
::[Robb]: Hehehehe
855
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to say? You know, like,
there's what he's like, well, I opened up your
856
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: medical stuff by accident.
I'm like, okay. And he's like, yeah, I saw,
857
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know, because it was
the bill, basically, you know, that
858
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
859
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: we had to still pay whatever
it was. And he's like, is there something we
860
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: need to talk about? And
I said, No, no. Did it say that there was something
861
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to talk about? I mean,
everything came back. OK, right. And he's like,
862
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: well, why are you doing
that? And I said,
863
::[Robb]: Right.
864
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: because life goes on, you
know, I don't because I don't want to be an
865
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: idiot because life goes
on because, you know, it's just it's just it's
866
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the right thing to do.
867
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
868
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I said. that I need
to tell you, but I'm still not an idiot. Like,
869
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
870
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I know, you know, I take
care of myself and he goes, No, I do. I just,
871
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know, he goes, I shouldn't
even have asked you and I said, How do you
872
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: not ask? Like, come
873
::[Robb]: I've done
874
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: on, that's
875
::[Robb]: a lot
876
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: kind
877
::[Robb]: of
878
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: of
879
::[Robb]: things
880
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: hard to.
881
::[Robb]: you don't know about.
882
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right. But I was okay telling
him, but then I thought to myself, that was
883
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: dumb. If I didn't want
him to know, I should have changed, you know,
884
::[Robb]: Right,
885
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: so
886
::[Robb]: but
887
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it was pretty
888
::[Robb]: the funny
889
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it
890
::[Robb]: thing
891
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: was
892
::[Robb]: is
893
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: an awkward
894
::[Robb]: that
895
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: conversation, but I was
like, whatever.
896
::[Robb]: I had done it before, like I went and
got blood work done, and I said, oh yeah, I
897
::[Robb]: wanna get STD test, and they were like,
are you worried about something? I go, oh no,
898
::[Robb]: I'm gonna be with a new partner, so
I would like to have an STD test, so we're
899
::[Robb]: both on the same page, and they were
like, oh. I was like. Yeah, that's what insurance
900
::[Robb]: is for.
901
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, my doctor was like,
so do we need to talk? And I'm like, well,
902
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: do you need to you want
to learn something you don't want to know?
903
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Or like, yeah,
904
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
905
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: do you want to talk? Do
you have something you want to talk to me about?
906
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Because I'm
907
::[Robb]: Right.
908
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: OK. I just think that this
is important to make sure I'm taking care of
909
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: myself. And he said, well,
I'm glad you are. And we absolutely could do
910
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it. And I won't ask you
any more questions. And I'm like, well, if
911
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you don't ask any more
questions, I won't have to lie to you.
912
::[Robb]: Yeah, I mean, I
913
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And that's
914
::[Robb]: just,
915
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: how I kept it.
916
::[Robb]: I think it's the right thing to do for
both
917
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
918
::[Robb]: people. It hurts no one,
919
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Nope.
920
::[Robb]: and it gives other people peace of mind.
921
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And
922
::[Robb]: And...
923
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I did this even before
I was married, you know, 20 something years
924
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: ago when I was single because
I was single until I was 34. I did that regularly
925
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: from the time I started
having sex until I got married.
926
::[Robb]: I think we, you know, it probably doesn't
hurt that we come from the generation of AIDS.
927
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, because that is a
scary freaking beast. It was.
928
::[Robb]: Yeah, so I think that we're we come
from that so it's probably Embedded in our
929
::[Robb]: heads that sex kills you
930
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehe
931
::[Robb]: You know what I mean like oh that
932
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well,
933
::[Robb]: the
934
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: not
935
::[Robb]: 80s
936
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that it
937
::[Robb]: and
938
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: kills you but that it could
I
939
::[Robb]: no
940
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: mean
941
::[Robb]: it did then
942
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right, well not everybody
you just had to be careful because I remember
943
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: back in the day and all
of my Anybody that I was with way back in the
944
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: day They'll tell you tina
did not have sex without a condom
945
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
946
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I was like if you want
to have sex with me and you're dating me and
947
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: we're together put on a
condom. If not, we're not going to be dating,
948
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you're not going to be
doing anything. But then it was also scary
949
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: too, because oral sex,
you cannot protect yourself completely against
950
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: oral sex unless you're
using dental dams and you're blowing the guy
951
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: with a condom on which
I don't know about you, but I'm not a latex
952
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: sort of taste
953
::[Robb]: Hmm.
954
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: person, you know that.
So
955
::[Robb]: I
956
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to
957
::[Robb]: mean,
958
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: me, it's like,
959
::[Robb]: I don't know about that.
960
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: well, let me tell you.
No.
961
::[Robb]: Yeah,
962
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: So
963
::[Robb]: I'm
964
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to
965
::[Robb]: sure
966
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: me,
967
::[Robb]: it's not great.
968
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's not it's not so you
have to trust who you're with and you have
969
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to you have to Believe
in the person that you're gonna lay down with
970
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: because that is a very
intimate thing I remember when I met my ex
971
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: we messed around but we
did not have sex for like three months I was
972
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, I don't know if I
like you enough to do that. So let's take some
973
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: time. And he was
974
::[Robb]: Right.
975
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, I'm totally cool
with that. So we did. And then we ended up
976
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: being together for 20 plus
years. And I think he respected that.
977
::[Robb]: Yeah,
978
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But
979
::[Robb]: I
980
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: for
981
::[Robb]: think
982
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: me,
983
::[Robb]: that
984
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it
985
::[Robb]: there's
986
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: was
987
::[Robb]: a
988
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like,
989
::[Robb]: lot to that.
990
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah, it's
991
::[Robb]: I
992
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: hard
993
::[Robb]: think.
994
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to lay down with somebody
you don't know.
995
::[Robb]: Right, I want to know the person on
a personal level, so my head and my body are
996
::[Robb]: in the same game.
997
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?
998
::[Robb]: And once I am so comfortable with that
person on every level, I think it makes that
999
::[Robb]: part of it way better.
1000
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
1001
::[Robb]: So I think there's something to that.
I think today it's very, very sad that it's
1002
::[Robb]: wanted so quickly. I mean, the second.
1003
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's always been wanted
quickly. We just didn't act on it like we were
1004
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: apes. You know what I mean?
Like we
1005
::[Robb]: Yeah,
1006
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: took
1007
::[Robb]: but
1008
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: time to get to know a person.
1009
::[Robb]: I guess I've always have done that.
Maybe I just was never, I was never like that.
1010
::[Robb]: I never jumped in. I mean, I've had
two one-night stands in my whole life. And
1011
::[Robb]: one of them, I would have loved to continue
because I knew them. But I was in my early
1012
::[Robb]: 20s. I just wasn't in the right position
of being, she lived far away and I lived in
1013
::[Robb]: the valley. It was my best friend's
girlfriend's best friend. So it probably would
1014
::[Robb]: have turned bad anyway. And the funny
thing is she ended up becoming a stripper.
1015
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You've always had a thing
for them.
1016
::[Robb]: Yeah, and here's the funny thing.
1017
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You don't go looking for
it either.
1018
::[Robb]: And I've never been to a strip club
ever in my whole life.
1019
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You want to go? I'll take
you.
1020
::[Robb]: No, I told you. I told you before though,
like to me, they're carny.
1021
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You can't touch them, yeah.
1022
::[Robb]: It's carny, they're selling you some
shit that's not real and I don't get that part,
1023
::[Robb]: so. I mean,
1024
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well,
1025
::[Robb]: I guess
1026
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know,
1027
::[Robb]: if.
1028
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's not real, but you
just go to have fun. I remember I took my two
1029
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: cousins once and I went
and got a bunch of money, like cash,
1030
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
1031
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and I just threw it at
them and it was more just it was for fun. They
1032
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: were embarrassed because
they were with me, but I was like, just have
1033
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: fun, just hoot and holler
and have a good time. It doesn't have to be
1034
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a big deal. So
1035
::[Robb]: I
1036
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: if
1037
::[Robb]: would,
1038
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you ever want to go, I'm
that chick.
1039
::[Robb]: I told someone that I would go with
them before who I was intimate with. Unfortunately,
1040
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mmm.
1041
::[Robb]: we never got down that road, but I would
probably go with somebody that I was dating
1042
::[Robb]: and that, look, there has to be, there
has to
1043
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: That
1044
::[Robb]: be,
1045
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: could go bad though.
1046
::[Robb]: that's what I mean though, and that's,
I mean, I'm not really, I think that's why
1047
::[Robb]: another reason I would stay away from
it. Look, if you're, You could have fun. It
1048
::[Robb]: has to be, you have to know who you're
going with, and you have to understand that
1049
::[Robb]: it's short-term, get in, have some fun,
and go home and bang one out. The
1050
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehehe
1051
::[Robb]: whole point should be is that you're
going there to get.
1052
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Aroused.
1053
::[Robb]: you know, arouse for each other, watching
1054
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right.
1055
::[Robb]: each other and then go out to the car
and bang one out in the back seat and then
1056
::[Robb]: go home or whatever the hell you're
going to do.
1057
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: dirty. No.
1058
::[Robb]: Yeah, I got to love cars. I love cars.
1059
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?
1060
::[Robb]: Cars, cars, cars
1061
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Who
1062
::[Robb]: can
1063
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: doesn't
1064
::[Robb]: be fun.
1065
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like vehicular sex?
1066
::[Robb]: Yeah. Cars can be cars can be interesting.
I told you the park story. That was, that was
1067
::[Robb]: one of my favorites. I just think that
we had the online dating, the one where we
1068
::[Robb]: had some guests on and the girls were
just talking about how quick guys send dick
1069
::[Robb]: pictures and sex
1070
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh my
1071
::[Robb]: is
1072
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: god.
1073
::[Robb]: just so, it's funny, my friend down
the street that I'm, you know, I like, she's
1074
::[Robb]: told me really early, please don't send
me any dick pictures. And I, so in my head,
1075
::[Robb]: because of my sense of humor, I sent
her a picture of Dick Clark.
1076
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehehe
1077
::[Robb]: with both thumbs up like
1078
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
1079
::[Robb]: this. And she was like, and it was funny
because I think she got the giggle, she got
1080
::[Robb]: the humor, like it was funny. I'm like,
here's, I go, look, I gotta send you at least
1081
::[Robb]: one and I sent her that and she's like,
okay, that'll work. Those are the things that
1082
::[Robb]: I think show who you are as a person.
Like,
1083
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?
1084
::[Robb]: I got it, don't do this, because. When
we had the girls on that were talking, I was
1085
::[Robb]: just like, I felt bad as a dude. I was
like, holy shit, we're horrible human beings.
1086
::[Robb]: And sex should mean something. It really
should.
1087
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, it should but I think
that women are just as equally as bad at as
1088
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: men are in that We're not
good people to each other we need to start
1089
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like if you want to date
somebody like put some effort into it on both
1090
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: ends
1091
::[Robb]: For sure.
1092
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know get to get to
a place where a man could feel comfortable
1093
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: because I think part of
the reason men Send a dick pic is because they're
1094
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: not comfortable and they
don't know where they stand with you or where
1095
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: they're at. I think that
if I don't want to see a dick pic, I don't
1096
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: want to see a vagina pic
either, though, to be honest with you. I'm
1097
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, I'm okay to not see
pictures of certain things. Those would be
1098
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: too.
1099
::[Robb]: Alright.
1100
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But on the other hand,
it's like, I think that it's just an awkward
1101
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: thing. And men are trying
to figure out how a woman is going to be and
1102
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: if she she gets pissed
off at a dick pic, they're like, Oh, I'm never
1103
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: going to get laid. And
ultimately, I think that right now, that's
1104
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: what guys are wanting.
If they're single, they're wanting to get laid.
1105
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And if they catch feelings,
then they catch feelings. But I don't think
1106
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that they I don't think
they're looking for that. I think they're looking
1107
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to get laid. And they're
looking for somebody that won't be a frigid
1108
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: bitch and will screw them.
1109
::[Robb]: Yeah, but I mean, to me, if you start
out, you know, date one,
1110
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, there's
1111
::[Robb]: and
1112
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: nowhere to go with that.
You
1113
::[Robb]: there's
1114
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know what I mean?
1115
::[Robb]: nowhere
1116
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's just
1117
::[Robb]: to go.
1118
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: no, you just are in a situation
and
1119
::[Robb]: Yeah.
1120
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Women will catch feelings
And what if you don't want to be with that
1121
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: woman? What if
1122
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
1123
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you find out she's a big
asshole like You don't want to see her again,
1124
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: but she boned her. So now
she's gonna be you know calling you and bugging
1125
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you like take
1126
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
1127
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: your time
1128
::[Robb]: Yeah.
1129
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Sex sex will always you
could always find places to have sex. And if
1130
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you're smart, you're smooth
about it, you don't even need to worry about
1131
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it.
1132
::[Robb]: I think just learn someone enough to
have sex with them. And whatever your time
1133
::[Robb]: period is.
1134
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
1135
::[Robb]: And also on both sides, don't be afraid
to say something like, hey, we're getting to
1136
::[Robb]: a good spot and I'm not trying to push
this on you, but is it something you're thinking
1137
::[Robb]: about? Something, I don't know how the
wording would be. But I think it's something
1138
::[Robb]: like, hey, I would, I wanna be intimate
with you more than we have. And if someone
1139
::[Robb]: says, I'm not ready for that yet, go,
okay, cool, I still wanna date you. Just if
1140
::[Robb]: we get to this part, say something.
It's hard, I think, for a guy, because again,
1141
::[Robb]: there has to be more to a woman than
sex. At least for me, I would get bored out
1142
::[Robb]: of my mind. If you're not, if you can't
communicate with me, if I say words, some bigger
1143
::[Robb]: words and you don't get them, I'm gonna
be like, oh fuck, it's one of these, you know.
1144
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Should I do that all the
time? My friend just said the other day, she's
1145
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, talking to you is
kind of confusing because you use words all
1146
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the time that I don't know
what they mean. I'm like, then stop me, ask
1147
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: me what I'm saying, and
1148
::[Robb]: Yeah.
1149
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'll
1150
::[Robb]: Alright.
1151
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: find a different way to
say it to you so that you're learning. I don't
1152
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: have to,
1153
::[Robb]: Yeah.
1154
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know, I don't have
to worry that I'm offending you. Like, I'm
1155
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: not trying to make fun
of anybody, but
1156
::[Robb]: No, I'm
1157
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I
1158
::[Robb]: just,
1159
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like to talk. You know,
1160
::[Robb]: yeah.
1161
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I like that.
1162
::[Robb]: And I use some bigger words. And
1163
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
1164
::[Robb]: if you don't know what the word is,
just tell me
1165
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Ask.
1166
::[Robb]: and I'll go, oh, this is what it means.
I said
1167
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
1168
::[Robb]: something, I don't even remember what
the word I used at work today, but I said something.
1169
::[Robb]: And the guy who said, Maxime, he's like,
what does that mean? I said this, and he goes,
1170
::[Robb]: oh, all right. He goes, I never heard
that one before. I'm like, all right. Like,
1171
::[Robb]: but
1172
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I
1173
::[Robb]: talk
1174
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: said that
1175
::[Robb]: to
1176
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: something
1177
::[Robb]: me.
1178
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: was gelatinous the other
day and
1179
::[Robb]: Oh,
1180
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: everybody
1181
::[Robb]: yeah,
1182
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: was like, wait, what?
1183
::[Robb]: nice.
1184
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I'm like, you don't
know what gelatinous
1185
::[Robb]: chill
1186
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: is? It's
1187
::[Robb]: madness.
1188
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, it's like it's got
a jelly type
1189
::[Robb]: Yeah, it's
1190
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: consistency
1191
::[Robb]: like, it's
1192
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to
1193
::[Robb]: like
1194
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it.
1195
::[Robb]: custard.
1196
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh, oh, more like boba.
I was thinking boba. It was
1197
::[Robb]: Oh, like
1198
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like
1199
::[Robb]: tapioca.
1200
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a slimy ish.
1201
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
1202
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, yeah, something like
that.
1203
::[Robb]: Right.
1204
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And they're like, oh, that's
what it means. Why didn't you just say that?
1205
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm like, I did. That's
1206
::[Robb]: Yeah, I did, I said
1207
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: how you
1208
::[Robb]: gelatinous.
1209
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: say it.
1210
::[Robb]: No, I think there's something to that.
I hate to be like, because I've got through
1211
::[Robb]: this thing, I think without saying the
F word, but fuck
1212
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mmm.
1213
::[Robb]: my mind first.
1214
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah
1215
::[Robb]: I'm telling you, I love that shit. Please
talk to me. If you talk to me and we hit it
1216
::[Robb]: off, and I would rather love you for
your mind than love you for your body.
1217
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, and for me, if
you get to know me on any level and you let
1218
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: me just get comfortable,
so you know, get to know me and I get to know
1219
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you, the sex is going to
be so much better
1220
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
1221
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: because I'm going to not
be worrying about everything that we didn't
1222
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: talk about. I'm not going
to be worrying about... what your likes or
1223
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: dislikes are because I'm
going to have time to get to know you. And
1224
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: even if we don't ever talk
about sex, which I don't like to talk about
1225
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it, if I'm going to do
it, I'm going to do it. I
1226
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
1227
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't, you know, don't
say, are you into this or you into that? If
1228
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you get to know me, you'll
know exactly what I'm into because of the personality
1229
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: type that I am.
1230
::[Robb]: Well, and once you get past that first
plateau, then you do talk about other things
1231
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Then
1232
::[Robb]: that,
1233
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you find out how messed
up somebody really
1234
::[Robb]: yeah,
1235
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: is.
1236
::[Robb]: I mean, how freaky somebody is. Which,
1237
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?
1238
::[Robb]: look, and there's your parachute.
1239
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
1240
::[Robb]: I mean, obviously, if you're super vanilla,
it's gonna come out quite quickly. The first
1241
::[Robb]: sexual experience shouldn't you shouldn't
be tying people up. That's a bit much.
1242
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You're no fun. No,
1243
::[Robb]: I mean,
1244
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm kidding.
1245
::[Robb]: you
1246
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm
1247
::[Robb]: know,
1248
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: kidding.
1249
::[Robb]: maybe I'm just realistic,
1250
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You're no fun. Ha ha ha.
1251
::[Robb]: you know. But I think that if you, you
know, you have a good time and you, look, there's
1252
::[Robb]: a lot of things that can make sex bad.
A bad kisser,
1253
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yep.
1254
::[Robb]: a bad kisser
1255
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Kiss of death.
1256
::[Robb]: could take you down a highway. And on
the flip side of that, a great kisser can make
1257
::[Robb]: someone... that is a seven, make them
a 12. Or if they're a 10,
1258
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
1259
::[Robb]: make them a 20. There's some, there's
people that I've kissed that I could kiss for
1260
::[Robb]: the rest of my life. It was that good.
There's just some kind of connection with that.
1261
::[Robb]: And that can lead you down to many other
things. So. My thing is don't be in a hurry.
1262
::[Robb]: Maybe that's the whole part of this,
at least me, this conversation is really don't
1263
::[Robb]: be in a hurry. There's so much more
to a person than their body and sex. They walk
1264
::[Robb]: hand in hand. I think a healthy relationship
has sex and has full transparency. There's
1265
::[Robb]: something you should feel. comfortable
naked in front of someone. Once you get to
1266
::[Robb]: a point where there's, where you're
walking around the house naked and you, to
1267
::[Robb]: go get water after sex, and you bring
it back and you're both chugging it and it's
1268
::[Robb]: running down the fronts of both of you
and you're giggling and out of breath, those,
1269
::[Robb]: that's how you know you're, you're with
somebody you wanna be with. where
1270
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
1271
::[Robb]: it's just everything is free and you
can lay and talk in bed naked and not look
1272
::[Robb]: for your underwear. Because you're
1273
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yep.
1274
::[Robb]: like, whatever, I don't care. You've
seen my junk already, we're good.
1275
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hmm. Cute junk.
1276
::[Robb]: And
1277
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It just
1278
::[Robb]: yeah,
1279
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: sounds so weird.
1280
::[Robb]: you see your junk. But I
1281
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hahaha
1282
::[Robb]: think there's something, there's just
something to that part. Don't be in a hurry.
1283
::[Robb]: There should be no certain amount of
dates. And if you're, to me, if you're looking
1284
::[Robb]: on date one to have sex, your recipe
for disaster for that relationship is probably
1285
::[Robb]: bad.
1286
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
1287
::[Robb]: Sure.
1288
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I agree, and you're missing
some really fun stuff too.
1289
::[Robb]: Yeah, you're missing the experience
of being around somebody and seeing the small
1290
::[Robb]: things that are either going to make
you fall for them or make you run.
1291
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
1292
::[Robb]: Because like you said, there's nothing
worse than getting in, having sex with somebody
1293
::[Robb]: very quickly, and then going, man, I
can't stand the way he chews.
1294
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh
1295
::[Robb]: You know what I mean?
1296
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Been there.
1297
::[Robb]: I hate that he taps his fingers all
the time on the table or he has this twitch
1298
::[Robb]: about him that he, you know, there's
always those things. And again, I overlook
1299
::[Robb]: a lot of things. There's too many things
that are important to worry about, these small
1300
::[Robb]: things. I'm... I'm more worried about
the major red flags. Are you throwing fists
1301
::[Robb]: with me? Are you screaming at the top
of your lungs every time we have a problem?
1302
::[Robb]: Are you stomping off mad every time
we get in an argument and you're leaving me
1303
::[Robb]: alone in the restaurant? There's bigger
1304
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
1305
::[Robb]: problems. I wanna know that I can be
a solid person in your life and be able to
1306
::[Robb]: take criticism and and talk about it
so your sex life at home is much better long
1307
::[Robb]: run.
1308
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yep. And
1309
::[Robb]: I'm
1310
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you
1311
::[Robb]: not
1312
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know,
1313
::[Robb]: one
1314
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: when
1315
::[Robb]: for makeup
1316
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you get
1317
::[Robb]: sex either.
1318
::[Robb]: I'd rather not ever get in the fight.
Let's just have sex.
1319
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right? I'm with you on
that. But I think that the more you know a
1320
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: person... the more you
know what makes them tick. Not even if you
1321
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't even need to talk
on a sexual level, you just need
1322
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
1323
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to talk. Once you know
what a person's like, then you have some idea
1324
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: of where you go from there.
And I think that it's so important to take
1325
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the steps because once
you hit the point where you're having sex,
1326
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you can't go back. You're
in a way different situation than you were
1327
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: when you were just dating
and dating's kind of fun. be if you're doing
1328
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it right if you could be
yourself and they could be themselves and you
1329
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: could just talk and have
a good time like it's so fun to just be with
1330
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a person
1331
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
1332
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and that anticipation that
it could happen or it's gonna happen or will
1333
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it happen maybe today or
maybe it'll be tomorrow like that's the fun
1334
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: stuff and you don't get
that back once you start having sex then
1335
::[Robb]: Right.
1336
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's a whole different
relationship and really you should take the
1337
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: time to just get to know
somebody because those steps are so much fun
1338
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: they really are
1339
::[Robb]: I agree. I think they're the building
blocks to a healthy sexual relationship.
1340
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm. And you know who
that person is to know how they're going to
1341
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: be when they're in bed
with you.
1342
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm. Yeah, you know from the inside
outward.
1343
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm, and I think that's
way better than
1344
::[Robb]: Yeah,
1345
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: not
1346
::[Robb]: yeah, then you end up having like fun
sex at like other people's houses in the bathroom
1347
::[Robb]: because
1348
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh Jesus.
1349
::[Robb]: she's got a sundress on and You lose
your shit over it or you know that kind of
1350
::[Robb]: fun stuff That that's when things
1351
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: That's
1352
::[Robb]: get
1353
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: another
1354
::[Robb]: exciting
1355
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: show.
1356
::[Robb]: Yes, it is another show
1357
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It is another show.
1358
::[Robb]: Um
1359
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Speaking of which, we've
gone way over on our
1360
::[Robb]: Uh,
1361
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: time.
1362
::[Robb]: it's good stuff. It's a hunter show
who cares? Um Yeah,
1363
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah. Hehehehe.
1364
::[Robb]: so, uh, yeah good stuff. I think We've
hit a lot of good points in this one. We should
1365
::[Robb]: be happy about what we've done. We've
hit our
1366
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Heheheheheheh
1367
::[Robb]: hundredth show. And I think that there's
gonna be a lot more. But this one is coming
1368
::[Robb]: to an end. Make sure to check out our
social medias, all that fun stuff, Twitter,
1369
::[Robb]: Facebook, Instagram. Go to wherever
you listen to these podcasts and subscribe
1370
::[Robb]: for free or follow for free. because
we like giving our show away. And just thanks
1371
::[Robb]: a lot. It's been a fun 100 and we're
definitely going to have more things to talk
1372
::[Robb]: about and more fun. Anything you'd like
to say, Miss Tina?
1373
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Just thank you for listening.
Can't wait to bring you next week's.
1374
::[Robb]: And this is an opinion show, so don't
get it twisted. Make sure you come back every
1375
::[Robb]: Wednesday, listen to these two crazy
people talk about their fun stories and interesting
1376
::[Robb]: people we know in our lives. And Tina,
we'll see you next week.
1377
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Have a good one.
1378
::[Robb]: Bye.