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Episode 10021st June 2023 • Dont get this Twisted • Dont get this Twisted
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In this episode, Robb and Tina celebrate their 100th episode and reflect on their podcast journey. They discuss the speed of intimacy in dating and the importance of getting to know someone before engaging in sexual activities. They also explore the differences in expectations between genders and the impact of age on dating dynamics. The hosts emphasize the need for effort and communication in dating, as well as the importance of trust and establishing boundaries. They also discuss the role of alcohol in sexual encounters and the importance of consent and open communication. The episode concludes with a discussion on unique date ideas and the significance of reading body language in building intimacy.

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[Robb]: Welcome to another show of don't get

this twisted. I am Rob along with my coast

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[Robb]: as always Tina. How you doing, Tina?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm good now that I'm doing

the podcast. It's been a day.

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[Robb]: Yes, yes, it has been a day,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yes,

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[Robb]: that is very

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and

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[Robb]: true.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: we're at 100 episodes.

This is

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[Robb]: 100.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: our 100th.

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[Robb]: This is our 100th. Who would have ever

Fargan thought we

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: would make it this far?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Not me.

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[Robb]: I

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Who

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[Robb]: would have

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: knew,

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[Robb]: never

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know?

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[Robb]: thought.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: No, but we've been doing

this over a year now

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[Robb]: Yes.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and this is our 100th show.

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[Robb]: Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm impressed. Yeah.

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[Robb]: Me too, you know what I mean? It's like,

we're on a mission from God. It's like amazing,

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[Robb]: you know what I mean? So.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, when you told me

that the average podcast is like seven episodes,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I thought, oh, OK, well,

I wonder how many we'll do. I had no idea.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: We'd be at 100. And it's

your birthday. So happy

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[Robb]: Correct,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: birthday.

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[Robb]: I know, thank you very much. I think

it's pretty amazing, because I thought like

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[Robb]: around 20. I remember at 20 I was like,

man, we've made it 20 episodes. That's

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: pretty crazy. So that we've made it

to 100 seems like just a

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: insane

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[Robb]: crazy thing. Very

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and

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[Robb]: much

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: thank

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[Robb]: true.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you all for listening the

people that are that are currently listening

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and have been since the

beginning

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[Robb]: Yes,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: thank

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[Robb]: the

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you for

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[Robb]: avid

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: that

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[Robb]: ones, the

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: yes

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[Robb]: avid listeners.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah i was i was texting

with a friend today and she's like i go what

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: she said guess what i'm

doing and i said i don't know what and she

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: uh she sent me a picture

of our um The episode that we did last week,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I guess she

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: was listening to that when

I was texting her and was like, hey, thanks.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: That was cool. I wasn't

expecting that either. So

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[Robb]: It

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it

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[Robb]: is

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: was kind

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[Robb]: interesting

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: of cool.

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[Robb]: when you get that quick response. People

are

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: actually listening to it, and they're

like, hey, I listened to it today, and you're

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[Robb]: like, oh, okay, how was it? Or they

go, oh, it was a really good episode, blah,

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[Robb]: it's kind of nice.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, I have a an old boyfriend

from way back in the day. He listens to apparently

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: most if not all the episodes

and he sent me a text last week. He goes, hey,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I listened to your episode.

He goes, I liked it. And I was like, hey, thanks.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I hadn't you know, it's

funny because I don't think about it. on the

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: day to day, you

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, I'm just we do our

recording and then you do more than I do with

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it. Like you said, I'm

just the talent. So

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[Robb]: You're

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I

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[Robb]: just

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: just

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[Robb]: a talent.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: sit down, I just show up

and talk. So, you know, I wasn't really thinking

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: about it, but I love hearing

that somebody's listened and I love when they

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: have an opinion whether,

you know, some people tell me you talk too

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: fast. Some people say you

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I didn't see any of that,

but okay, you know, I like to hear what everybody

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: else has to say. So thank

you guys for letting me know that you're listening

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and thank you all for listening.

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[Robb]: Yes, very much so.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: So check out our socials real quick,

Twitter, Instagram, Facebook. Check us out

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[Robb]: on all the platforms, subscribe or follow,

and it is free, so just click on it, and you

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[Robb]: get to hear us every Wednesday. This

week on our hundredth episode,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehe

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[Robb]: you know, we kinda talked off the air

one time about what we wanted to talk about,

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[Robb]: and one of these kinda came up where

it's like, dating these days, like how quickly

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[Robb]: do you have sex? Or how quick do people

assume that that's going to happen? And I,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mmm.

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[Robb]: for me, it's like, I don't date much.

So I have dated in the last year, but mostly

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[Robb]: one and done's just dinners. Um, I talked

to one girl.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: You're not screwing him

on the first night. Oh. Ha ha

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[Robb]: No,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: ha. Ha ha.

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[Robb]: no, that's That's definitely not my

thing.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?

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[Robb]: I need to actually understand people

before I can ever get down that road.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Do you ever really understand

people though? Come on.

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[Robb]: I mean, no, but

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehe

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[Robb]: I think that there's a close, if you're

in the 90 percentile of knowing someone, look,

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[Robb]: there's always gonna be something someone

doesn't want to tell you for whatever reason,

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[Robb]: or it just never comes up. Some things

don't come up in conversation. I'm kinda crazy

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[Robb]: about it, cause I like to grill people.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehehehehe

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[Robb]: because I talk so like I'm always down

to talk about anything like I want to know

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[Robb]: if you're damaged it's okay and because

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah

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[Robb]: it's okay to be damaged no do you know

what I mean

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yep.

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[Robb]: like I think I think we're all broken

a little bit mostly at our age I think once

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[Robb]: you get into this age period you're

broken and you're held together by glue and

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[Robb]: tape and sawdust and whatever else it

is And I think you're okay, but you're definitely

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[Robb]: not 20 and haven't experienced the world

yet. And I think that is what kind of, that

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[Robb]: breaks you, the world breaks you.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't think the world

breaks you. I don't feel broken. I feel like

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I did some things that

probably weren't the smartest idea. I've done

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: things that have taught

me a lot more than what I thought I needed

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: to know. I don't know though

that I feel broken.

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[Robb]: See, I think we're all broken to some

degree and that it's okay to be broken. Because

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[Robb]: look, we all have walked down these

really wild roads or been on these, and I'm

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[Robb]: lucky, I don't think I've done anything

too crazy, but I think that I understand that

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[Robb]: I have my own issues. Maybe that's what

I mean by broken. But I think when it comes

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[Robb]: to knowing someone, you should know

them before you sleep with them. Myself, I

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[Robb]: think that it's just a better idea.

Get to know who this person is before you do

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[Robb]: something super intimate.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: I guess if your long-term goal is a

relationship, because obviously if you're just

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[Robb]: out there,

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[Robb]: going around, sleeping around, and that's

what you're looking for, I think that that's

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[Robb]: okay, if that's what you're looking

for. But if you're looking for a relationship,

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[Robb]: you definitely need to try to understand

who the person is.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm. I definitely agree

with that.

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[Robb]: But I would guess at least from the

female side. it's probably pushed way quicker

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[Robb]: to have sex than it is being a male.

Women aren't

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm

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[Robb]: pushing

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: sure.

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[Robb]: as much. I've had one person do it.

Actually, I've had two people do it. One, many,

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[Robb]: many years ago when I was still living

in Cam, I went on a date, a couple of dates

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[Robb]: with this one girl. She was nice, kinda

cool, but she was the one that was on the...

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[Robb]: the online dating podcast we did where

I said it was just freaky and called me on

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[Robb]: a Sunday and told me to come over to

her house and stay the night.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Okay.

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[Robb]: And she was like, I don't wanna sleep

with you. And I was like, look, there's no

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[Robb]: other reason to go over there. And then

I dated someone else a couple of times, went

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[Robb]: out for food, talked a little bit, and

under the guise of alcohol, said a bunch of

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[Robb]: things. that the next day was like,

yeah, I'm really sorry I said that. So even

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[Robb]: that probably wasn't, you know, a hundred

percent true, but there was probably an in-between.

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[Robb]: Do you think that it's way more pushed

on women by men, like

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: to go down the line very quickly?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh yeah. Like there is

no line. It's like let's just have sex and

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: then we'll see if we can

get to know each other. Like,

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[Robb]: Wow, like,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah.

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[Robb]: I don't

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Like

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[Robb]: get that.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's, it's... I don't think...

I don't really think guys are into it to stay

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: into it though, to be honest

with you. And it could go back to how guys

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't want to be in a relationship

because of what they'll lose or the

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: freedom that they'll give

up. I know women aren't really good to men

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: from what I hear, you know?

So

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't... I definitely

say that in dating you get... kind of badgered

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: a little bit to do that,

or it's expected, or even if you say, like,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: that's not what I'm into,

they will still try for sure. But I'm also

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: a pretty strong woman,

so I only do what I want to do, and it doesn't

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[Robb]: Sure.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: matter what they want,

and, you know,

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[Robb]: Right. Even if

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's not

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[Robb]: the

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: hard

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[Robb]: guys...

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: to get out of that situation,

though.

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[Robb]: I'm sure. I'm sure the guys like poured

on though. You know what I mean? Like they

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[Robb]: throw on the sexy voice and everything.

They're like, yeah, baby. Hey, check it out.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't even think they're

that cool or slick anymore. You know what

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[Robb]: Really?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I mean? No, I wish like

if a guy had like uber personality, he was

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, yeah, baby, like

it he just like poured it on I would at least

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: be entertained. Right?

It would it would get him in a second date,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know,

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[Robb]: Right,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: but

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[Robb]: right.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: uh, but no, that's not

even like what happens. It's just like, it's

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: expected. I'm like, dude,

we went to a taco truck. There's no f in way.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm letting you stick it

in me. I don't

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: do you even know my last

name? Do you do you even know how old I am

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: like there's There's like

certain things. I think people may want to

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: know before they do that

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[Robb]: Yeah, yeah, I think that should be the

norm. I'm sure that there's a limit. Like,

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[Robb]: I'm sure, and again, I'm just playing

it by ear. I don't know. Most of the guys that

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[Robb]: I know aren't in the dating field. Every

guy that I work is married, with the exception

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[Robb]: of a really young kid. So they're not

even in that market, but I'm going to assume

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[Robb]: that there's a certain amount of date

limit. that

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: a guy will take.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't know. Ha ha.

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[Robb]: I don't either. I mean, I don't know.

Like I said, I'm a little old school and I

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[Robb]: don't wanna say old fashioned because

I'm not old fashioned, but I think that there's

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[Robb]: things

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: You'd like to

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[Robb]: that

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: know

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[Robb]: you,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: a last name first?

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[Robb]: I mean a last name, your kids, your

story, what you've done in life. I don't care

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[Robb]: what you do for a living and I know

that women ask, that's like one of the biggest

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[Robb]: questions. For

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well

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[Robb]: me,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah, they

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[Robb]: if...

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't want a loser they

gotta take care of, but I don't think men do

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: either.

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[Robb]: No, but if you ask me that right away,

I'm super turned off. Uh,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, if you're on a dating

site though, doesn't it kind of say that before

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you even meet a person?

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[Robb]: Yeah, but I think that that's ambiguous

though. Like mine would say sales. That could

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[Robb]: mean anything.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: right?

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[Robb]: That could mean I'm a drug dealer. I

mean, if you really wanna go, you know what

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[Robb]: I mean? Like if you wanna be, I could

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: That

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[Robb]: be

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: would

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[Robb]: a guy

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: make

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[Robb]: who's,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: for an interesting story.

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[Robb]: yeah, but I mean, that could mean that

I just stay at home all the time and I'm a

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[Robb]: dirt bag and. You know, I sell drugs

out of my house that doesn't mean that you're

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[Robb]: in sales, but I mean it does For

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: You are definitely

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[Robb]: me though

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: in sales.

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[Robb]: Yeah, hey, you're in sales. That's for

sure but for me, it's like look I understand

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[Robb]: that you want to Kind of get where you're

at. But like if you're leading with you know,

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[Robb]: what do you do for a living? How much

do you make? I'm like, yeah. All right Eat

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[Robb]: your food so I can go home.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: You're right the food

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[Robb]: Seriously.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: just that I just bought

with the job you're trying to see

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[Robb]: Yeah,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: how much I make yeah

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[Robb]: and I'm okay, I pay for dinners.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: If I go out with someone, I pay for

dinner. If I go out to lunch with you, I generally

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[Robb]: pay for lunch, with the exception of

me and you, where it's a business thing. You

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[Robb]: know, we're usually discussing business.

So...

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, we work that out.

It's not a big deal.

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[Robb]: But you know what I mean though? For

me, I generally do that. And if it's a date,

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[Robb]: I definitely do it. I just think that

that's the right thing to do. And coming from

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[Robb]: how I was raised, you open up the door

for her, the normal gentlemanly things is what

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[Robb]: I do. If I pick you up, I open the door.

That's just what I do.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: That is more the exception

today than the rule, especially in dating.

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[Robb]: I'm sure.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, for sure. But I gotta

tell you that when I go out on a date, if they

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't do those things,

like if they just can't be, you know, if they

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: just can't be the man in

their relationship, there isn't a second date

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and there

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: certainly isn't sex. You

know what I mean? That's, you blew it.

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[Robb]: Right, right. I just think that it's

too bad that it's thought about so easily that

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[Robb]: it should be on the first date. I think

that

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well,

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[Robb]: that's...

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: if that's what you're going

for and both of you know that that's what you're

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: going for, then alright,

fine. But if you want it to have any sort of

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: longevity, you might

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: want to get to know the

person.

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[Robb]: Correct. To me, that's the whole thing,

but assuming that the reason you're dating

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[Robb]: is you want to meet someone for your

life, I want to know who you are as a human

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[Robb]: being way

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: before, because I want my mind turned

on way before I want anything

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?

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[Robb]: else. It's so important to me that you

make me think. make me wonder. Those are the

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[Robb]: things that, and look, don't get me

wrong, like if you wanna smooch a little bit

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[Robb]: and you're feeling it, cool. But even

that I think shouldn't go too far. I think

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[Robb]: there's something about that slowly

taking away the layers to get to sleeping with

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[Robb]: somebody.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right? I think that, I

think too that in dating, I've noticed that

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: people don't have any incentive

to even put any effort in and if somebody doesn't

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: show an initiative, if

they don't show that they want to put anything

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: into it, there isn't a

second date either. And there isn't sex either,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know? It's like, no,

we're not, no.

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[Robb]: Right. I mean, I like talking with people.

So maybe, and I'm dense when it comes to some

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energy very well. I'm kind of just like oblivious

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a good time. Unless it's pretty straightforward.

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[Robb]: I did. And it's funny, all the dates

that I went on, there was nothing. Like some

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because I don't know

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Really?

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[Robb]: how, just because I don't know how they're

gonna take it. Some people

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[Robb]: are so drawn back by it. It's like you're

jumping the gun or something. Should I shake

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And generally, if I do give a hug, I give the

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehe

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[Robb]: where I'm like, I'm embracing you, but

I'm not embracing you.

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[Robb]: I did go to lunch with a friend last

week, and she's a really good friend of mine,

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[Robb]: so I gave her a hug, and that's how

I give people that I'm comfortable with a hug.

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[Robb]: But in a date now, I just don't know

how people are going to react. Most of them

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[Robb]: are from our age group, because I don't

want to date. I wouldn't date now. I have a

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[Robb]: very short window for dating. It's like

three years younger and two years older.

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[Robb]: Yeah, I don't want to date young people

at all. I've been down that road and it is

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it, for me. So like we're talking maybe 47,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and

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[Robb]: years

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: five.

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[Robb]: younger.

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[Robb]: And because

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I am.

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[Robb]: I think you start missing things in

common. You know what I mean? Like three years

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[Robb]: I look at like high school years, right?

When it comes to knowing and remembering things.

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[Robb]: Like hey, do you remember this? And

they're like, no, I was in junior high. And

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[Robb]: you're like, oh. Or no, I was in, you

know, barely going into, you know. Pre-K. I

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Horrible. Oh my God. She was a mess.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: So I get it. I dated this

guy's profile was wrong, but he looked he looked

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well, maybe it's an old picture or whatever.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: But we went out and we

had a great time. He was a teacher and he's

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a totally different world. So we had so much

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to bridge the gap. But I found out he was 30

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one

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and I was like holy crap

you didn't tell me you were

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[Robb]: Yeah.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: 30. You were 30 and he's

like oh I'm sorry I'm like you didn't do that

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: on purpose did you and

he started laughing he goes no because I didn't

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: think you'd date me I said

well I wouldn't have and we dated oh we dated

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: a while. I mean, I had

fun with him. I didn't take things

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: super serious, but he didn't

want to be super serious.

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[Robb]: Right.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: But because he was a teacher

and he had a brain and he knew how to act.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: He's like, I'd really like

to take you on a date. And we went on a date

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and then he took me on

another date and it just started evolving.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: But I got to tell you,

he was much more mature than guys our age,

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I've gone out with a couple

of guys our age and I'm like, dude, what is

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: wrong? with you? Were you

stuck in like a time warp and you forgot how

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: to act and you forgot how

old you were and what you should have for yourself

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: at this point? Like you

should be established in something by the age

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: of 52.

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[Robb]: Yeah, I agree with that. I think that

there's a limit of,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: I think socially you should be at a

certain level.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?

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[Robb]: Men are always gonna be infantile and

like dick jokes. Like we're

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well,

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[Robb]: always gonna

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I like

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[Robb]: be

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: dick

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[Robb]: like

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: jokes,

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[Robb]: that.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: so.

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[Robb]: No, but you know what I mean? Or like

we're still gonna be geeky over sci-fi movies

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[Robb]: or whatever it is. Some things we don't

change out of, but I think you should be established

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[Robb]: in like, You take care of yourself,

you got a car, you have a job, you pay your

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: You have a place to live.

Yeah, you're

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: not homeless or

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[Robb]: Yeah. I mean, even when I moved

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: living

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[Robb]: out

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: in

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[Robb]: here,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: rehab.

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[Robb]: yeah, well, that's a whole other monster.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: No.

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[Robb]: A friend of mine told me I should get

out of my last situation, because no one was

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[Robb]: gonna want to date someone who lives,

is renting rooms from somebody. And I kind

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[Robb]: of get that because I was like, yeah,

you're right. Because who's and my roommate

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[Robb]: was a 34 year old girl.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: So it does look weird. And for me, it

was like, look, I had a good place to stay.

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[Robb]: I had a good thing going. Like I was

only paying:

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[Robb]: with nothing else. I didn't pay water.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: I didn't pay anything. So I had a great

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Nice.

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[Robb]: deal going. But at the end, yes, she's

correct. Like I needed to get out. and show

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[Robb]: that I could be on my own again and

that kind of thing. So I understand that. I

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[Robb]: just think that the, who you meet now

is a whole other thing as well. If you're meeting

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[Robb]: somebody who's just coming out of a

long-term relationship, they may be set back

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[Robb]: into party mode. You know what I mean?

Where you're like, oh, I can't, I don't wanna

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[Robb]: go down that road. I don't want someone

who's like every weekend's like, hey, we're

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[Robb]: going to the bar, are we going to this

way? No, we can go do things together, but

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[Robb]: I don't want to be in that situation

either, because that just leads

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: to other issues.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?

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[Robb]: But I think that the sex part is definitely

gonna be thrown in to those situations as well,

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[Robb]: to get down quickly. Like when you start

adding alcohol to things, that's a whole other

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[Robb]: monster as well.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: Like I think the first couple of dates,

if you go on dates, at least for me, if I go

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[Robb]: out on a date, I have one drink, nothing

more, nothing less.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, I'm not a drinker

at all, so.

433

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[Robb]: But I just do it because I want to have

a sober mind.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: Like I wanna make sure that I'm saying

the right things that I mean and I'm not getting

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[Robb]: out of control. Unless you know the

person and you're going out and. you know,

437

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[Robb]: doing that kind of thing. I'm okay with

that, but not on dates now, not first dates.

438

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[Robb]: There's too much to lose.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I get that.

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[Robb]: You know, one person says, oh, they

did this, and you're in prison. So I think

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[Robb]: for men as well, you have to step back

and wonder about having sex with someone. Because

442

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[Robb]: under the guise of it was consensual,

you may end up not someone else saying it wasn't

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[Robb]: because

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

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[Robb]: they made a mistake or, you know. they

were under the influence. So for me, I stay

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[Robb]: far away from that because the last

thing I want is anything like that.

447

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's got to be different

for a man than a woman because I don't even

448

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: think about that. Like

nobody, I don't feel like anybody's going to

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: scream rape at any given

time. You know what I mean? Because

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm a female, so it's a

little bit different. But I also don't do things

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: forcefully. I don't do

things that would... make anybody think that

453

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: but I would imagine being

a man, it doesn't matter one way or another

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: if a woman wants to scream

as she's going to.

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: That would be kind of scary.

I never really thought about that to be honest

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: with you.

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[Robb]: Well, and let's say you've been talking

with someone for quite a while.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: You've went out on one date, but you've

talked about certain sexual things you're into.

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[Robb]: And let's say you're

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

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[Robb]: into rough sex. And you're working towards

these things. By the time you have sex with

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[Robb]: each other, you know certain things.

what's the line that you have to draw in the

465

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[Robb]: sand of, you know, the one, what if

she says, you know, I want you to choke me.

466

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[Robb]: or I want you to this or I want you

to that, it's a slippery slope of how far you

467

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[Robb]: go

468

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I do

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[Robb]: into

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you do

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[Robb]: that.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: that on our first like

do you do that when you're first having sex

473

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: either? I don't

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[Robb]: I don't know,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I Really? How

476

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[Robb]: but you could.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: damn am I missing something?

478

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[Robb]: I mean, I think you could go down that

road if you've been, let's say you've gone

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[Robb]: out on two dates and you haven't had

sex yet, but you've been talking about you

480

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[Robb]: know, like time passes and you text

each other and ha and you're flirting and you're

481

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[Robb]: like, oh, are you, you know, what do

you think of this? Or what do you think of

482

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[Robb]: that? Or, you know, a ha text like,

ooh, I have handcuffs. And then there's another

483

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[Robb]: situation or another talking point that

now goes down this different road and you start

484

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[Robb]: saying, oh, well, are you into this?

Or are you into that? Are you into this? So

485

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[Robb]: by the time sex comes, let's see you

decide to have sex on date four. you know,

486

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[Robb]: what's expected. It's a...

487

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's a free for all. No,

I'm kidding.

488

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[Robb]: but for a guy,

489

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm kidding.

490

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[Robb]: for a guy, do I want to go down that

road? I don't know. If I leave too many marks

491

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[Robb]: on her, is she going to wake up the

next day and be like, I didn't want any of

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[Robb]: this?

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, I would think that

the trick is to not leave any marks on her

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: for one, you know, until

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[Robb]: I don't

496

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you

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[Robb]: know.

498

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: are really good and sure

that she's not going to be

499

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[Robb]: Mmm,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: freaking

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[Robb]: okay.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: out on you.

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[Robb]: Yeah, because

504

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I mean,

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[Robb]: some girls

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I wouldn't

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[Robb]: like that

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: leave

509

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[Robb]: too.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: marks. And I would also

make sure I kept all the messages that said

511

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: what she was into and what

she wanted and how she wanted it and described

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[Robb]: That's very

513

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: everything

514

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[Robb]: true.

515

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: as well. I think you need

to be smart about it. You know, I don't know.

516

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't really know if,

I don't know. I think that's, you just gotta

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: learn to pick somebody

that you can trust. I mean, I guess that's

518

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: the key point, because

if you don't trust somebody, you shouldn't

519

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: lay down with them in the

first place. And if you don't know how they're

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: gonna react, I definitely

wouldn't do it, especially

521

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: if it's sexual.

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[Robb]: Yeah.

524

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: So you kinda gotta know

your place in the reality of the relationship

525

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: from the

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: get go. But I don't know,

my experience is that guys don't care to talk

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: about it, they just want

to do it. And I get it. I get that sex is a

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: big deal and I get that

it's important and I get that if you're single

530

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and you've been single

for a while, you want to do that. But... If

531

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you don't know who you're

laying down with you don't know who you're

532

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: laying down with there

could

533

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[Robb]: Correct.

534

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: be so many You know so

many sex partners so many things that could

535

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: have happened so many And

and I don't like to talk about all that stuff.

536

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't think it's anybody's

business what my past was But I you should

537

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: at least know that they're

a solid person. You should at least know that

538

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: they're Being honest about

what they're talking about or that they're

539

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: being forthright with you

that you know, whatever you're talking about

540

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: But I think you really

got to listen to your instincts, too I think

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: that's so important if

you're gonna lay down with somebody you need

542

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: to know that person's gonna

be a solid person for you or is You yeah, take

543

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: your time to get to know

a person I don't know four dates is even enough

544

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: time to get to know somebody.

545

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[Robb]: No,

546

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't

547

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[Robb]: I agree.

548

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: think it is like

549

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[Robb]: I don't

550

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: But

551

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[Robb]: think it

552

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: is

553

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[Robb]: is either.

554

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it is it enough to have

sex? I mean I Wouldn't pull out the handcuffs

555

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: then I mean although handcuffs

are so, they're not even that bad. But I guess

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: if you got somebody tied

up and you're, you leave them alone for a couple

557

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: hours, it could be. I don't,

I don't know that I would trust somebody with

558

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: handcuffs if they were

going to tie me up, not tie me up, but you

559

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, put

560

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[Robb]: Yes.

561

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: the cuffs on me. I'd put

them on them and good luck. You know, if I,

562

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: if I walk out, I may not

remember to come back. So you might want to

563

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: wait on that.

564

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[Robb]: Right. I think that, look, and it all

matters what is said in between these four

565

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[Robb]: dates, obviously. How much

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah,

567

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[Robb]: time

568

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: for sure.

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[Robb]: are you talking with each other? Are

you communicating? Are you actually talking?

570

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[Robb]: That's another lost art. People don't

talk on the telephone anymore. Or like, I would

571

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[Robb]: rather schedule.

572

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Think you should talk in

person if you're gonna be having sex and doing

573

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: crazy shit like that. I

think

574

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[Robb]: Oh,

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: you should

576

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[Robb]: no, I agree, but I'm saying like in

between dates. Like everything doesn't have

577

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[Robb]: to be a date. I think once you have

a couple of dates, it's okay to go have coffee

578

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[Robb]: and talk or go out to just have dinner

and go, look, let's meet for dinner and then

579

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[Robb]: go home afterwards and then go on a

date on the weekend and go do something. Maybe

580

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[Robb]: I just, I look at things different,

and I haven't dated like for real in a long

581

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[Robb]: time. The only dates that I've gone

on are dinner dates. Like I've gone out to

582

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[Robb]: have dinner with somebody and that is

all. So I didn't even like really do like,

583

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[Robb]: hey, do you wanna go do this or do you

wanna go do that? I just, because I think now

584

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[Robb]: to get to know someone or meet somebody,

it's easier just to go get coffee or eat. At

585

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[Robb]: least that's what

586

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

587

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[Robb]: I have been in. But.

588

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know,

589

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[Robb]: Maybe I'm

590

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: I,

591

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[Robb]: outside.

592

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: oh shit, sorry about that.

Um, I have been asked out for coffee after

593

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: telling somebody I don't

drink coffee. So it's like, I don't drink coffee,

594

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: but I guess I'll go with

you, but already I'm like, I'm not, I'm not

595

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: entertained by you because

you didn't hear me when I said I don't drink

596

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: it. I don't mind if we

go and grab, you know, grab a coffee for you,

597

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: but... Again, what am I

going to do? Just sit there and look at you

598

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and drink water because

that's literally what I would do.

599

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

600

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, so right there,

I'm always I'm already like, he didn't listen

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: to me. Okay. And,

602

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[Robb]: Yeah.

603

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: and I don't mean to sound

like I'm judging people in order to blow them

604

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: off from the get go. I'm

not saying that at all. What I'm saying is,

605

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: if you're wanting to date

me, you should hear me because I'm very I will

606

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: communicate with you. You'll

know from the get where I'm at with things

607

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: because I'll just tell

you that's just who I am. I'm not trying to

608

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: hide anything. But if you

heard it and it's not what I'm into, it would

609

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it would benefit you to

try something else.

610

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[Robb]: Correct.

611

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You might get a little

bit further with me if you do that, you know.

612

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[Robb]: Right, I think that you should be able

to work around that kind of thing, obviously.

613

::

[Robb]: I mean, if you don't drink and you don't

drink coffee, there's gotta be something else

614

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[Robb]: you can do. Like,

615

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

616

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[Robb]: hey, do you wanna go get ice cream?

Do you wanna go just do something where you

617

::

[Robb]: can both sit and chat

618

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right,

619

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[Robb]: while,

620

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: let's go grab sandwiches

and sit in a park and just

621

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[Robb]: right.

622

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: sit under a tree or something

and talk. You know, that's throw a frisbee

623

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: around. I mean, it doesn't

have to be spending a shit ton of money every

624

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: time you go out with somebody.

625

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[Robb]: I wonder what the average answer from

a girl would be though if you asked them, hey,

626

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[Robb]: do you want to just go pick something

up and go to the park? And again, maybe I'm

627

::

[Robb]: living in the Twilight Zone, but I think

that wouldn't go over very well these days.

628

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: that

629

::

[Robb]: Like

630

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: what wouldn't go over

631

::

[Robb]: just

632

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like.

633

::

[Robb]: going to pick up a sandwich and going

to the park and talking.

634

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: That would totally be fun

for me because that's not something that anybody's

635

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: let's go out to dinner

I could I could buy my own dinner. I could

636

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: go anywhere I want and

guess what? I won't even have to I won't even

637

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: have to compromise like

I could do that But if you if somebody if somebody

638

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: really wanted to get my

attention They would say something other than

639

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: coffee or let's go to dinner.

They would say hey, I got tickets to a dodger

640

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: game or uh you want to

go roller skating in the park because I would

641

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: so do that I'd be

642

::

[Robb]: All right.

643

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: that chick that would and

I'd really be like ah there's somebody with

644

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: a brain like he's actually

trying

645

::

[Robb]: Yeah, I think that that's a dating thing

though. Like to me, what is something that

646

::

[Robb]: we can both sit down and talk and still

get something out of it? I think that's why

647

::

[Robb]: dinner always works, because we all

have to eat and look, I guess I would maybe

648

::

[Robb]: throw ice cream in there, because that

is something you can both go and still discuss

649

::

[Robb]: things and be ha about it. I think the

park's a great idea. I've spent a lot of time

650

::

[Robb]: with people in a park. So I love the

idea of a park. I love the idea of a park car,

651

::

[Robb]: but maybe I'm just, I think it's fun

to just sit and chat with people. Everything

652

::

[Robb]: doesn't, you're right, everything doesn't

have to be this, you know,

653

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: It doesn't

654

::

[Robb]: monumentous

655

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: need to be all grandiose,

656

::

[Robb]: thing.

657

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it doesn't, but it does

have to be something that's going to catch

658

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: my attention.

659

::

[Robb]: I agree, but I think a date should do

that. I'm talking about some things in between

660

::

[Robb]: these dates you've already been on.

Because

661

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

662

::

[Robb]: you know, this is where we're talking

about what leads to sex. These intimate conversations

663

::

[Robb]: in between your having dates. And I'm

talking about, the first date should be a date.

664

::

[Robb]: You should take someone somewhere and

have a nice time. If you're going to go on

665

::

[Robb]: a date, take them to do something, sit

down and have dinner. discuss a couple of things,

666

::

[Robb]: take them home, and finish the night

with however you wanna finish it, with a hug

667

::

[Robb]: or a kiss, thank you very much, ask

them on a second date if that's where you're

668

::

[Robb]: going with it. But the conversations

between dates, because if you have one, two,

669

::

[Robb]: or three good dates, I think it's okay

to go, hey, let's go meet and have a sandwich

670

::

[Robb]: in the park.

671

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Absolutely, absolutely.

And

672

::

[Robb]: because

673

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: or let's go let's go drive

to the beach and get

674

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

675

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: some clam chowder on the

war at the wharf

676

::

[Robb]: A

677

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and

678

::

[Robb]: wharf.

679

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: then just walk around.

Cool. That

680

::

[Robb]: Yeah.

681

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: that to me is like, oh,

somebody's saying something

682

::

[Robb]: Exactly.

683

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: more than coffee or dinner.

Coffee or dinner tells me you're boring.

684

::

[Robb]: City walk.

685

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You really does.

686

::

[Robb]: Something like

687

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: City

688

::

[Robb]: city

689

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: walk.

690

::

[Robb]: walk.

691

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

692

::

[Robb]: Or in the IE there's a mall called Victoria

Gardens. It's like this outdoor mall. It's

693

::

[Robb]: like, it's a great place that I think

if you really just wanted to walk around, see

694

::

[Robb]: a little atmosphere, they got some cool

like restaurants and bars They have a movie

695

::

[Robb]: theater there, but it's an outdoor place

where you could walk and just kinda sit down.

696

::

[Robb]: They have park benches and stuff in

there. Places like that where you're still

697

::

[Robb]: discussing things, you can people watch,

you can talk. To me, these are the things that

698

::

[Robb]: are going to lead you to a intimate

relationship. When you're getting to understand

699

::

[Robb]: these people and you can, you know,

I mean, at least for me, it's still that. You

700

::

[Robb]: can bump into each other or whenever

you finally hold a hand. I'm one, I love that

701

::

[Robb]: part of it. I love holding hands. I

think it's just a, that's the first step to

702

::

[Robb]: intimacy. It's that first reaction.

703

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm.

704

::

[Robb]: When you hold someone's hand, what's

the reaction? That's how I read somebody though.

705

::

[Robb]: That would be that

706

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know,

707

::

[Robb]: first body language.

708

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I think for me, like what

I what I like is when somebody just reaches

709

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: over and puts their hand

like on my leg,

710

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

711

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: not to rub my crotch, not

like her. Don't take it any further than just,

712

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know, put your like,

touch me, not in an. that is kind of an intimate

713

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: way, but not in a sexual

way. It's in

714

::

[Robb]: Correct.

715

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: a very sweet way.

716

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

717

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And, and that goes for

me that goes a long way. I know that I did

718

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: that to somebody and I

felt like he was, he didn't know how to act

719

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: with that, but I wasn't

rubbing him. I wasn't inappropriate. I did

720

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it for a few minutes and

then I moved my hand like I tried to make it

721

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: as smooth as possible because

I wasn't trying to. I wasn't trying to get

722

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: in his pants. I wasn't

trying to rub and see how big he was. Because

723

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I know that there's, I

have had friends say that they do that to see

724

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: how big his dick is. I

wasn't going to do that. That was not what

725

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I was going for. But I

was having a good time with them and we were

726

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: joking and laughing and

I just put my hand there. I just put my hand

727

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: there. But I think he was

a little uncomfortable. So I didn't make it

728

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: uncomfortable. I didn't

pull away real quick. But I waited. waited

729

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: a couple minutes and then

just casually did something else so that it

730

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: didn't have to feel uncomfortable

to anybody.

731

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm, right. I think that is the start

of those good things.

732

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

733

::

[Robb]: Yeah.

734

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And you know, we still

talk, we still we've gone out a couple times,

735

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: but I'm not quick to do

that again, because I didn't get the

736

::

[Robb]: Reaction.

737

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: The reaction.

738

::

[Robb]: Yeah, I

739

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

740

::

[Robb]: think that there's something to that

as well. Those are the things that are gonna

741

::

[Robb]: lead you to having an intimate relationship

with somebody. First time you hold hands, sometimes,

742

::

[Robb]: or first time you put your hand on their

leg, or maybe at the bottom of their back,

743

::

[Robb]: just to kinda see, I hate to say how

far you can go, but it is kind of that, where

744

::

[Robb]: you're volleying you know, things back

at each other with these small things

745

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: but they're

746

::

[Robb]: where...

747

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: non-sexual cues.

748

::

[Robb]: Correct,

749

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I

750

::

[Robb]: exactly.

751

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: think that's exactly what

you should do. I love when somebody opens the

752

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: door for me and I go to

walk in and they do put their hand like on

753

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: my

754

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

755

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: back, not on my ass. I

mean, that's

756

::

[Robb]: No,

757

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: for later on. I like that

758

::

[Robb]: exactly.

759

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: too,

760

::

[Robb]: That's,

761

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: just

762

::

[Robb]: but

763

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: not

764

::

[Robb]: that's,

765

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: in the beginning.

766

::

[Robb]: that's relationship things though to

me.

767

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, but I like that they're

kind of guiding me in or

768

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

769

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: they're... You're very

together once somebody does that with you.

770

::

[Robb]: To me, it's a protective thing too.

771

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yes.

772

::

[Robb]: I know that I'm going through the door

last, there's no one that's gonna get you from

773

::

[Robb]: behind me, they're gonna get

774

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

775

::

[Robb]: me first. And now you going through

the door, I can be behind you, I can see the

776

::

[Robb]: rest of the crowd that I'm in or whatever,

and now I can decide if I wanna take your hand

777

::

[Robb]: and now I'm gonna lead you a certain

way. Like if I'm at a concert with somebody,

778

::

[Robb]: and I wanna go a certain way, I will

grab their hand and I'll tell them, you follow

779

::

[Robb]: me, because I'm moving and I'm moving

people out of the way. You just make sure you

780

::

[Robb]: stay right behind me and I'm gonna get

through things. That's the leadership part

781

::

[Robb]: of being a man where later on they're

going to understand intimately that you're

782

::

[Robb]: going to take care of them on whatever

level. To me, that's what it means.

783

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: It very much as for a woman,

for me personally, it very much defines who

784

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: the man is in the relationship

and who the woman is. And, and, you know, we

785

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: both have the genitalia,

which says what it should be. But, you know,

786

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: if a guy is going through

the door first, and he's, you know, I have

787

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to worry about him. Kind

of got

788

::

[Robb]: Right.

789

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: the roles reversed. You

know what I mean?

790

::

[Robb]: Yeah, I like to be the protector. That's

what it should be. I was at a concert with

791

::

[Robb]: somebody and I remember being in the

pit with them and they had not been in pits

792

::

[Robb]: like mosh pits. And it wasn't crazy,

but it was moving. And I remember I put my

793

::

[Robb]: arms around her and was like, just,

you know, I gotcha. and there were people bouncing,

794

::

[Robb]: coming close, and I would put my hands

out to make sure she didn't get hit. And to

795

::

[Robb]: me, that's just what you do. Mostly

for someone who you wanna be close to the band,

796

::

[Robb]: but you don't want to be in the shit.

797

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

798

::

[Robb]: And those to me are moments where you're

saying, look, I got you here, I'm not gonna

799

::

[Robb]: let you get hurt. Even if it's just

a date. I think even on a simple date, it's

800

::

[Robb]: still the man's job to be a protector.

My

801

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

802

::

[Robb]: job is to make sure you get home safe

that night, regardless. If we had the worst

803

::

[Robb]: time in the world, if we have two separate

cars, I'm going to send you away in a car and

804

::

[Robb]: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna check on you

or text me when you get home, whether we talk

805

::

[Robb]: ever again, doesn't matter to me. I

wanna make sure that you get home safe. So

806

::

[Robb]: those are

807

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

808

::

[Robb]: those are those cues of to me, the things

that are gonna lead you to these intimate relationships.

809

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: So what do you think, what

do you think the date, what do you think, how

810

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: many dates should you have

before you have sex with somebody? What do

811

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you think?

812

::

[Robb]: I don't think there's a number. It's

how you feel. I think you should be able to

813

::

[Robb]: talk to somebody because you, look,

if you're going through these cues, right,

814

::

[Robb]: and you're doing whatever, holding hands,

get here, I think once you decide to have a

815

::

[Robb]: first kiss, and I don't mean like stick

your tongue down her throat, I'm talking about

816

::

[Robb]: a nice, soft kiss at the end of the

night. From then, it's okay, we've had four

817

::

[Robb]: dates or three dates and a kiss, now

we're gonna go out again and now you start

818

::

[Robb]: laying the groundwork for is she ready,

at least as a man.

819

::

[Robb]: I think you should talk to people. Make

sure you're both in the same head space. To

820

::

[Robb]: me, I was with somebody before we ever

had sex. She asked me to get a... STD test.

821

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mmm.

822

::

[Robb]: which I was like, all right, whatever,

I'll go. I don't care. And these days, I think

823

::

[Robb]: that is safe.

824

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's really smart.

825

::

[Robb]: It is super smart. And

826

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

827

::

[Robb]: I think that everyone should have that

to where if you think you're going to be intimate

828

::

[Robb]: with somebody, make sure you're all

safe. And she did the same. She had just got

829

::

[Robb]: an STD test. These are things that,

look, nobody wants to carry anything along

830

::

[Robb]: with them. You know what I mean? I just

don't, and if you're promiscuous, before you

831

::

[Robb]: get into this serious relationship,

you should have the gonads to go get this test

832

::

[Robb]: done and make sure that everyone's safe.

Because a test doesn't cost that much, and

833

::

[Robb]: you'll know in several days.

834

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I think it's good just

to do that anyway if you're dating or you're

835

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: single. I think it's good

too every time you have, you know,

836

::

[Robb]: Blood work?

837

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: blood work you should ask

your doctor to do all that too. I mean there's

838

::

[Robb]: Yep.

839

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: nothing wrong with doing

that.

840

::

[Robb]: I do that no matter what, whether

841

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I do too.

842

::

[Robb]: I've had sex a month ago or two years

ago.

843

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: So listen to this. So I

was still on my ex's insurance because we weren't

844

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: quite divorced yet.

845

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

846

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And the paperwork came

to the house because I went to the doctor and

847

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: the doctor ran all the

tests. And I said, hey, while you're at it,

848

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: run this test too, you

know, just because it's good practice,

849

::

[Robb]: Correct.

850

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know? So, and...

851

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I had a conversation with

him. He says, there's something we need to

852

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: talk about. And I'm like,

there's always something we need to talk about.

853

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: What do you want

854

::

[Robb]: Hehehehe

855

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to say? You know, like,

there's what he's like, well, I opened up your

856

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: medical stuff by accident.

I'm like, okay. And he's like, yeah, I saw,

857

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know, because it was

the bill, basically, you know, that

858

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

859

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: we had to still pay whatever

it was. And he's like, is there something we

860

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: need to talk about? And

I said, No, no. Did it say that there was something

861

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to talk about? I mean,

everything came back. OK, right. And he's like,

862

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: well, why are you doing

that? And I said,

863

::

[Robb]: Right.

864

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: because life goes on, you

know, I don't because I don't want to be an

865

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: idiot because life goes

on because, you know, it's just it's just it's

866

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: the right thing to do.

867

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

868

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I said. that I need

to tell you, but I'm still not an idiot. Like,

869

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

870

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I know, you know, I take

care of myself and he goes, No, I do. I just,

871

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know, he goes, I shouldn't

even have asked you and I said, How do you

872

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: not ask? Like, come

873

::

[Robb]: I've done

874

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: on, that's

875

::

[Robb]: a lot

876

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: kind

877

::

[Robb]: of

878

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: of

879

::

[Robb]: things

880

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: hard to.

881

::

[Robb]: you don't know about.

882

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right. But I was okay telling

him, but then I thought to myself, that was

883

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: dumb. If I didn't want

him to know, I should have changed, you know,

884

::

[Robb]: Right,

885

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: so

886

::

[Robb]: but

887

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it was pretty

888

::

[Robb]: the funny

889

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it

890

::

[Robb]: thing

891

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: was

892

::

[Robb]: is

893

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: an awkward

894

::

[Robb]: that

895

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: conversation, but I was

like, whatever.

896

::

[Robb]: I had done it before, like I went and

got blood work done, and I said, oh yeah, I

897

::

[Robb]: wanna get STD test, and they were like,

are you worried about something? I go, oh no,

898

::

[Robb]: I'm gonna be with a new partner, so

I would like to have an STD test, so we're

899

::

[Robb]: both on the same page, and they were

like, oh. I was like. Yeah, that's what insurance

900

::

[Robb]: is for.

901

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, my doctor was like,

so do we need to talk? And I'm like, well,

902

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: do you need to you want

to learn something you don't want to know?

903

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Or like, yeah,

904

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

905

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: do you want to talk? Do

you have something you want to talk to me about?

906

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Because I'm

907

::

[Robb]: Right.

908

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: OK. I just think that this

is important to make sure I'm taking care of

909

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: myself. And he said, well,

I'm glad you are. And we absolutely could do

910

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it. And I won't ask you

any more questions. And I'm like, well, if

911

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you don't ask any more

questions, I won't have to lie to you.

912

::

[Robb]: Yeah, I mean, I

913

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And that's

914

::

[Robb]: just,

915

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: how I kept it.

916

::

[Robb]: I think it's the right thing to do for

both

917

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

918

::

[Robb]: people. It hurts no one,

919

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Nope.

920

::

[Robb]: and it gives other people peace of mind.

921

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And

922

::

[Robb]: And...

923

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I did this even before

I was married, you know, 20 something years

924

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: ago when I was single because

I was single until I was 34. I did that regularly

925

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: from the time I started

having sex until I got married.

926

::

[Robb]: I think we, you know, it probably doesn't

hurt that we come from the generation of AIDS.

927

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, because that is a

scary freaking beast. It was.

928

::

[Robb]: Yeah, so I think that we're we come

from that so it's probably Embedded in our

929

::

[Robb]: heads that sex kills you

930

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehe

931

::

[Robb]: You know what I mean like oh that

932

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well,

933

::

[Robb]: the

934

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: not

935

::

[Robb]: 80s

936

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: that it

937

::

[Robb]: and

938

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: kills you but that it could

I

939

::

[Robb]: no

940

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: mean

941

::

[Robb]: it did then

942

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right, well not everybody

you just had to be careful because I remember

943

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: back in the day and all

of my Anybody that I was with way back in the

944

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: day They'll tell you tina

did not have sex without a condom

945

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

946

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I was like if you want

to have sex with me and you're dating me and

947

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: we're together put on a

condom. If not, we're not going to be dating,

948

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you're not going to be

doing anything. But then it was also scary

949

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: too, because oral sex,

you cannot protect yourself completely against

950

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: oral sex unless you're

using dental dams and you're blowing the guy

951

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: with a condom on which

I don't know about you, but I'm not a latex

952

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: sort of taste

953

::

[Robb]: Hmm.

954

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: person, you know that.

So

955

::

[Robb]: I

956

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to

957

::

[Robb]: mean,

958

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: me, it's like,

959

::

[Robb]: I don't know about that.

960

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: well, let me tell you.

No.

961

::

[Robb]: Yeah,

962

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: So

963

::

[Robb]: I'm

964

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to

965

::

[Robb]: sure

966

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: me,

967

::

[Robb]: it's not great.

968

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's not it's not so you

have to trust who you're with and you have

969

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to you have to Believe

in the person that you're gonna lay down with

970

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: because that is a very

intimate thing I remember when I met my ex

971

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: we messed around but we

did not have sex for like three months I was

972

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, I don't know if I

like you enough to do that. So let's take some

973

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: time. And he was

974

::

[Robb]: Right.

975

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, I'm totally cool

with that. So we did. And then we ended up

976

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: being together for 20 plus

years. And I think he respected that.

977

::

[Robb]: Yeah,

978

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: But

979

::

[Robb]: I

980

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: for

981

::

[Robb]: think

982

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: me,

983

::

[Robb]: that

984

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it

985

::

[Robb]: there's

986

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: was

987

::

[Robb]: a

988

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like,

989

::

[Robb]: lot to that.

990

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah, it's

991

::

[Robb]: I

992

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: hard

993

::

[Robb]: think.

994

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to lay down with somebody

you don't know.

995

::

[Robb]: Right, I want to know the person on

a personal level, so my head and my body are

996

::

[Robb]: in the same game.

997

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?

998

::

[Robb]: And once I am so comfortable with that

person on every level, I think it makes that

999

::

[Robb]: part of it way better.

1000

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

1001

::

[Robb]: So I think there's something to that.

I think today it's very, very sad that it's

1002

::

[Robb]: wanted so quickly. I mean, the second.

1003

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's always been wanted

quickly. We just didn't act on it like we were

1004

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: apes. You know what I mean?

Like we

1005

::

[Robb]: Yeah,

1006

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: took

1007

::

[Robb]: but

1008

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: time to get to know a person.

1009

::

[Robb]: I guess I've always have done that.

Maybe I just was never, I was never like that.

1010

::

[Robb]: I never jumped in. I mean, I've had

two one-night stands in my whole life. And

1011

::

[Robb]: one of them, I would have loved to continue

because I knew them. But I was in my early

1012

::

[Robb]: 20s. I just wasn't in the right position

of being, she lived far away and I lived in

1013

::

[Robb]: the valley. It was my best friend's

girlfriend's best friend. So it probably would

1014

::

[Robb]: have turned bad anyway. And the funny

thing is she ended up becoming a stripper.

1015

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You've always had a thing

for them.

1016

::

[Robb]: Yeah, and here's the funny thing.

1017

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You don't go looking for

it either.

1018

::

[Robb]: And I've never been to a strip club

ever in my whole life.

1019

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You want to go? I'll take

you.

1020

::

[Robb]: No, I told you. I told you before though,

like to me, they're carny.

1021

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You can't touch them, yeah.

1022

::

[Robb]: It's carny, they're selling you some

shit that's not real and I don't get that part,

1023

::

[Robb]: so. I mean,

1024

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well,

1025

::

[Robb]: I guess

1026

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know,

1027

::

[Robb]: if.

1028

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's not real, but you

just go to have fun. I remember I took my two

1029

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: cousins once and I went

and got a bunch of money, like cash,

1030

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

1031

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and I just threw it at

them and it was more just it was for fun. They

1032

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: were embarrassed because

they were with me, but I was like, just have

1033

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: fun, just hoot and holler

and have a good time. It doesn't have to be

1034

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: a big deal. So

1035

::

[Robb]: I

1036

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: if

1037

::

[Robb]: would,

1038

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you ever want to go, I'm

that chick.

1039

::

[Robb]: I told someone that I would go with

them before who I was intimate with. Unfortunately,

1040

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mmm.

1041

::

[Robb]: we never got down that road, but I would

probably go with somebody that I was dating

1042

::

[Robb]: and that, look, there has to be, there

has to

1043

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: That

1044

::

[Robb]: be,

1045

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: could go bad though.

1046

::

[Robb]: that's what I mean though, and that's,

I mean, I'm not really, I think that's why

1047

::

[Robb]: another reason I would stay away from

it. Look, if you're, You could have fun. It

1048

::

[Robb]: has to be, you have to know who you're

going with, and you have to understand that

1049

::

[Robb]: it's short-term, get in, have some fun,

and go home and bang one out. The

1050

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehehe

1051

::

[Robb]: whole point should be is that you're

going there to get.

1052

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Aroused.

1053

::

[Robb]: you know, arouse for each other, watching

1054

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right.

1055

::

[Robb]: each other and then go out to the car

and bang one out in the back seat and then

1056

::

[Robb]: go home or whatever the hell you're

going to do.

1057

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: dirty. No.

1058

::

[Robb]: Yeah, I got to love cars. I love cars.

1059

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?

1060

::

[Robb]: Cars, cars, cars

1061

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Who

1062

::

[Robb]: can

1063

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: doesn't

1064

::

[Robb]: be fun.

1065

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like vehicular sex?

1066

::

[Robb]: Yeah. Cars can be cars can be interesting.

I told you the park story. That was, that was

1067

::

[Robb]: one of my favorites. I just think that

we had the online dating, the one where we

1068

::

[Robb]: had some guests on and the girls were

just talking about how quick guys send dick

1069

::

[Robb]: pictures and sex

1070

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh my

1071

::

[Robb]: is

1072

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: god.

1073

::

[Robb]: just so, it's funny, my friend down

the street that I'm, you know, I like, she's

1074

::

[Robb]: told me really early, please don't send

me any dick pictures. And I, so in my head,

1075

::

[Robb]: because of my sense of humor, I sent

her a picture of Dick Clark.

1076

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehehe

1077

::

[Robb]: with both thumbs up like

1078

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

1079

::

[Robb]: this. And she was like, and it was funny

because I think she got the giggle, she got

1080

::

[Robb]: the humor, like it was funny. I'm like,

here's, I go, look, I gotta send you at least

1081

::

[Robb]: one and I sent her that and she's like,

okay, that'll work. Those are the things that

1082

::

[Robb]: I think show who you are as a person.

Like,

1083

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?

1084

::

[Robb]: I got it, don't do this, because. When

we had the girls on that were talking, I was

1085

::

[Robb]: just like, I felt bad as a dude. I was

like, holy shit, we're horrible human beings.

1086

::

[Robb]: And sex should mean something. It really

should.

1087

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, it should but I think

that women are just as equally as bad at as

1088

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: men are in that We're not

good people to each other we need to start

1089

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like if you want to date

somebody like put some effort into it on both

1090

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: ends

1091

::

[Robb]: For sure.

1092

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know get to get to

a place where a man could feel comfortable

1093

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: because I think part of

the reason men Send a dick pic is because they're

1094

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: not comfortable and they

don't know where they stand with you or where

1095

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: they're at. I think that

if I don't want to see a dick pic, I don't

1096

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: want to see a vagina pic

either, though, to be honest with you. I'm

1097

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, I'm okay to not see

pictures of certain things. Those would be

1098

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: too.

1099

::

[Robb]: Alright.

1100

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: But on the other hand,

it's like, I think that it's just an awkward

1101

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: thing. And men are trying

to figure out how a woman is going to be and

1102

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: if she she gets pissed

off at a dick pic, they're like, Oh, I'm never

1103

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: going to get laid. And

ultimately, I think that right now, that's

1104

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: what guys are wanting.

If they're single, they're wanting to get laid.

1105

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And if they catch feelings,

then they catch feelings. But I don't think

1106

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: that they I don't think

they're looking for that. I think they're looking

1107

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to get laid. And they're

looking for somebody that won't be a frigid

1108

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: bitch and will screw them.

1109

::

[Robb]: Yeah, but I mean, to me, if you start

out, you know, date one,

1110

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, there's

1111

::

[Robb]: and

1112

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: nowhere to go with that.

You

1113

::

[Robb]: there's

1114

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: know what I mean?

1115

::

[Robb]: nowhere

1116

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's just

1117

::

[Robb]: to go.

1118

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: no, you just are in a situation

and

1119

::

[Robb]: Yeah.

1120

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Women will catch feelings

And what if you don't want to be with that

1121

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: woman? What if

1122

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

1123

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you find out she's a big

asshole like You don't want to see her again,

1124

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: but she boned her. So now

she's gonna be you know calling you and bugging

1125

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you like take

1126

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

1127

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: your time

1128

::

[Robb]: Yeah.

1129

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Sex sex will always you

could always find places to have sex. And if

1130

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you're smart, you're smooth

about it, you don't even need to worry about

1131

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it.

1132

::

[Robb]: I think just learn someone enough to

have sex with them. And whatever your time

1133

::

[Robb]: period is.

1134

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

1135

::

[Robb]: And also on both sides, don't be afraid

to say something like, hey, we're getting to

1136

::

[Robb]: a good spot and I'm not trying to push

this on you, but is it something you're thinking

1137

::

[Robb]: about? Something, I don't know how the

wording would be. But I think it's something

1138

::

[Robb]: like, hey, I would, I wanna be intimate

with you more than we have. And if someone

1139

::

[Robb]: says, I'm not ready for that yet, go,

okay, cool, I still wanna date you. Just if

1140

::

[Robb]: we get to this part, say something.

It's hard, I think, for a guy, because again,

1141

::

[Robb]: there has to be more to a woman than

sex. At least for me, I would get bored out

1142

::

[Robb]: of my mind. If you're not, if you can't

communicate with me, if I say words, some bigger

1143

::

[Robb]: words and you don't get them, I'm gonna

be like, oh fuck, it's one of these, you know.

1144

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Should I do that all the

time? My friend just said the other day, she's

1145

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, talking to you is

kind of confusing because you use words all

1146

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: the time that I don't know

what they mean. I'm like, then stop me, ask

1147

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: me what I'm saying, and

1148

::

[Robb]: Yeah.

1149

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'll

1150

::

[Robb]: Alright.

1151

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: find a different way to

say it to you so that you're learning. I don't

1152

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: have to,

1153

::

[Robb]: Yeah.

1154

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know, I don't have

to worry that I'm offending you. Like, I'm

1155

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: not trying to make fun

of anybody, but

1156

::

[Robb]: No, I'm

1157

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I

1158

::

[Robb]: just,

1159

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like to talk. You know,

1160

::

[Robb]: yeah.

1161

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I like that.

1162

::

[Robb]: And I use some bigger words. And

1163

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

1164

::

[Robb]: if you don't know what the word is,

just tell me

1165

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Ask.

1166

::

[Robb]: and I'll go, oh, this is what it means.

I said

1167

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

1168

::

[Robb]: something, I don't even remember what

the word I used at work today, but I said something.

1169

::

[Robb]: And the guy who said, Maxime, he's like,

what does that mean? I said this, and he goes,

1170

::

[Robb]: oh, all right. He goes, I never heard

that one before. I'm like, all right. Like,

1171

::

[Robb]: but

1172

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I

1173

::

[Robb]: talk

1174

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: said that

1175

::

[Robb]: to

1176

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: something

1177

::

[Robb]: me.

1178

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: was gelatinous the other

day and

1179

::

[Robb]: Oh,

1180

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: everybody

1181

::

[Robb]: yeah,

1182

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: was like, wait, what?

1183

::

[Robb]: nice.

1184

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I'm like, you don't

know what gelatinous

1185

::

[Robb]: chill

1186

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: is? It's

1187

::

[Robb]: madness.

1188

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, it's like it's got

a jelly type

1189

::

[Robb]: Yeah, it's

1190

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: consistency

1191

::

[Robb]: like, it's

1192

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to

1193

::

[Robb]: like

1194

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it.

1195

::

[Robb]: custard.

1196

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh, oh, more like boba.

I was thinking boba. It was

1197

::

[Robb]: Oh, like

1198

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: like

1199

::

[Robb]: tapioca.

1200

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: a slimy ish.

1201

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

1202

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, yeah, something like

that.

1203

::

[Robb]: Right.

1204

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: And they're like, oh, that's

what it means. Why didn't you just say that?

1205

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm like, I did. That's

1206

::

[Robb]: Yeah, I did, I said

1207

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: how you

1208

::

[Robb]: gelatinous.

1209

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: say it.

1210

::

[Robb]: No, I think there's something to that.

I hate to be like, because I've got through

1211

::

[Robb]: this thing, I think without saying the

F word, but fuck

1212

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mmm.

1213

::

[Robb]: my mind first.

1214

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah

1215

::

[Robb]: I'm telling you, I love that shit. Please

talk to me. If you talk to me and we hit it

1216

::

[Robb]: off, and I would rather love you for

your mind than love you for your body.

1217

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, and for me, if

you get to know me on any level and you let

1218

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: me just get comfortable,

so you know, get to know me and I get to know

1219

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you, the sex is going to

be so much better

1220

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

1221

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: because I'm going to not

be worrying about everything that we didn't

1222

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: talk about. I'm not going

to be worrying about... what your likes or

1223

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: dislikes are because I'm

going to have time to get to know you. And

1224

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: even if we don't ever talk

about sex, which I don't like to talk about

1225

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it, if I'm going to do

it, I'm going to do it. I

1226

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

1227

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't, you know, don't

say, are you into this or you into that? If

1228

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you get to know me, you'll

know exactly what I'm into because of the personality

1229

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: type that I am.

1230

::

[Robb]: Well, and once you get past that first

plateau, then you do talk about other things

1231

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Then

1232

::

[Robb]: that,

1233

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you find out how messed

up somebody really

1234

::

[Robb]: yeah,

1235

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: is.

1236

::

[Robb]: I mean, how freaky somebody is. Which,

1237

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?

1238

::

[Robb]: look, and there's your parachute.

1239

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

1240

::

[Robb]: I mean, obviously, if you're super vanilla,

it's gonna come out quite quickly. The first

1241

::

[Robb]: sexual experience shouldn't you shouldn't

be tying people up. That's a bit much.

1242

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You're no fun. No,

1243

::

[Robb]: I mean,

1244

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm kidding.

1245

::

[Robb]: you

1246

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm

1247

::

[Robb]: know,

1248

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: kidding.

1249

::

[Robb]: maybe I'm just realistic,

1250

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: You're no fun. Ha ha ha.

1251

::

[Robb]: you know. But I think that if you, you

know, you have a good time and you, look, there's

1252

::

[Robb]: a lot of things that can make sex bad.

A bad kisser,

1253

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yep.

1254

::

[Robb]: a bad kisser

1255

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Kiss of death.

1256

::

[Robb]: could take you down a highway. And on

the flip side of that, a great kisser can make

1257

::

[Robb]: someone... that is a seven, make them

a 12. Or if they're a 10,

1258

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.

1259

::

[Robb]: make them a 20. There's some, there's

people that I've kissed that I could kiss for

1260

::

[Robb]: the rest of my life. It was that good.

There's just some kind of connection with that.

1261

::

[Robb]: And that can lead you down to many other

things. So. My thing is don't be in a hurry.

1262

::

[Robb]: Maybe that's the whole part of this,

at least me, this conversation is really don't

1263

::

[Robb]: be in a hurry. There's so much more

to a person than their body and sex. They walk

1264

::

[Robb]: hand in hand. I think a healthy relationship

has sex and has full transparency. There's

1265

::

[Robb]: something you should feel. comfortable

naked in front of someone. Once you get to

1266

::

[Robb]: a point where there's, where you're

walking around the house naked and you, to

1267

::

[Robb]: go get water after sex, and you bring

it back and you're both chugging it and it's

1268

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[Robb]: running down the fronts of both of you

and you're giggling and out of breath, those,

1269

::

[Robb]: that's how you know you're, you're with

somebody you wanna be with. where

1270

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

1271

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[Robb]: it's just everything is free and you

can lay and talk in bed naked and not look

1272

::

[Robb]: for your underwear. Because you're

1273

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yep.

1274

::

[Robb]: like, whatever, I don't care. You've

seen my junk already, we're good.

1275

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hmm. Cute junk.

1276

::

[Robb]: And

1277

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: It just

1278

::

[Robb]: yeah,

1279

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: sounds so weird.

1280

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[Robb]: you see your junk. But I

1281

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hahaha

1282

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[Robb]: think there's something, there's just

something to that part. Don't be in a hurry.

1283

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[Robb]: There should be no certain amount of

dates. And if you're, to me, if you're looking

1284

::

[Robb]: on date one to have sex, your recipe

for disaster for that relationship is probably

1285

::

[Robb]: bad.

1286

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

1287

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[Robb]: Sure.

1288

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: I agree, and you're missing

some really fun stuff too.

1289

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[Robb]: Yeah, you're missing the experience

of being around somebody and seeing the small

1290

::

[Robb]: things that are either going to make

you fall for them or make you run.

1291

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

1292

::

[Robb]: Because like you said, there's nothing

worse than getting in, having sex with somebody

1293

::

[Robb]: very quickly, and then going, man, I

can't stand the way he chews.

1294

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh

1295

::

[Robb]: You know what I mean?

1296

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Been there.

1297

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[Robb]: I hate that he taps his fingers all

the time on the table or he has this twitch

1298

::

[Robb]: about him that he, you know, there's

always those things. And again, I overlook

1299

::

[Robb]: a lot of things. There's too many things

that are important to worry about, these small

1300

::

[Robb]: things. I'm... I'm more worried about

the major red flags. Are you throwing fists

1301

::

[Robb]: with me? Are you screaming at the top

of your lungs every time we have a problem?

1302

::

[Robb]: Are you stomping off mad every time

we get in an argument and you're leaving me

1303

::

[Robb]: alone in the restaurant? There's bigger

1304

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.

1305

::

[Robb]: problems. I wanna know that I can be

a solid person in your life and be able to

1306

::

[Robb]: take criticism and and talk about it

so your sex life at home is much better long

1307

::

[Robb]: run.

1308

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yep. And

1309

::

[Robb]: I'm

1310

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you

1311

::

[Robb]: not

1312

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: know,

1313

::

[Robb]: one

1314

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: when

1315

::

[Robb]: for makeup

1316

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you get

1317

::

[Robb]: sex either.

1318

::

[Robb]: I'd rather not ever get in the fight.

Let's just have sex.

1319

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right? I'm with you on

that. But I think that the more you know a

1320

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: person... the more you

know what makes them tick. Not even if you

1321

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't even need to talk

on a sexual level, you just need

1322

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[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

1323

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: to talk. Once you know

what a person's like, then you have some idea

1324

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: of where you go from there.

And I think that it's so important to take

1325

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: the steps because once

you hit the point where you're having sex,

1326

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: you can't go back. You're

in a way different situation than you were

1327

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: when you were just dating

and dating's kind of fun. be if you're doing

1328

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it right if you could be

yourself and they could be themselves and you

1329

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: could just talk and have

a good time like it's so fun to just be with

1330

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: a person

1331

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm.

1332

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: and that anticipation that

it could happen or it's gonna happen or will

1333

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it happen maybe today or

maybe it'll be tomorrow like that's the fun

1334

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: stuff and you don't get

that back once you start having sex then

1335

::

[Robb]: Right.

1336

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's a whole different

relationship and really you should take the

1337

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: time to just get to know

somebody because those steps are so much fun

1338

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: they really are

1339

::

[Robb]: I agree. I think they're the building

blocks to a healthy sexual relationship.

1340

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm. And you know who

that person is to know how they're going to

1341

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: be when they're in bed

with you.

1342

::

[Robb]: Mm-hmm. Yeah, you know from the inside

outward.

1343

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm, and I think that's

way better than

1344

::

[Robb]: Yeah,

1345

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: not

1346

::

[Robb]: yeah, then you end up having like fun

sex at like other people's houses in the bathroom

1347

::

[Robb]: because

1348

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh Jesus.

1349

::

[Robb]: she's got a sundress on and You lose

your shit over it or you know that kind of

1350

::

[Robb]: fun stuff That that's when things

1351

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: That's

1352

::

[Robb]: get

1353

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: another

1354

::

[Robb]: exciting

1355

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: show.

1356

::

[Robb]: Yes, it is another show

1357

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: It is another show.

1358

::

[Robb]: Um

1359

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Speaking of which, we've

gone way over on our

1360

::

[Robb]: Uh,

1361

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: time.

1362

::

[Robb]: it's good stuff. It's a hunter show

who cares? Um Yeah,

1363

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah. Hehehehe.

1364

::

[Robb]: so, uh, yeah good stuff. I think We've

hit a lot of good points in this one. We should

1365

::

[Robb]: be happy about what we've done. We've

hit our

1366

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Heheheheheheh

1367

::

[Robb]: hundredth show. And I think that there's

gonna be a lot more. But this one is coming

1368

::

[Robb]: to an end. Make sure to check out our

social medias, all that fun stuff, Twitter,

1369

::

[Robb]: Facebook, Instagram. Go to wherever

you listen to these podcasts and subscribe

1370

::

[Robb]: for free or follow for free. because

we like giving our show away. And just thanks

1371

::

[Robb]: a lot. It's been a fun 100 and we're

definitely going to have more things to talk

1372

::

[Robb]: about and more fun. Anything you'd like

to say, Miss Tina?

1373

::

[Tina Marie Garcia]: Just thank you for listening.

Can't wait to bring you next week's.

1374

::

[Robb]: And this is an opinion show, so don't

get it twisted. Make sure you come back every

1375

::

[Robb]: Wednesday, listen to these two crazy

people talk about their fun stories and interesting

1376

::

[Robb]: people we know in our lives. And Tina,

we'll see you next week.

1377

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[Tina Marie Garcia]: Have a good one.

1378

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[Robb]: Bye.

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