Australia’s housing debate is crowded with loud opinions — but very little demographic reality.
In this episode, we unpack what Australia’s population shifts are actually telling us about housing demand, cities, and economic pressure points, and why many of today’s dominant narratives fall apart when viewed through data.
Demographer Simon Kuestenmacher joins Veronica and Chris to challenge the assumptions shaping housing policy, migration debates, and affordability discussions. From international students and skilled migration to household formation and labour shortages, Simon explains how population forces — not headlines — are driving long-term outcomes across property and the broader economy.
The conversation explores why cutting migration won’t automatically ease housing stress, why median house prices are a misleading metric in a structurally unequal market, and why Australia’s system is quietly designed to support rising asset prices. Along the way, Simon reframes inflation, workforce shortages, and urban planning through a demographic lens that most investors and policymakers ignore.
This episode is essential listening for anyone who wants to understand underlying demand, not just surface-level market movements. If you’re a property investor, owner, or decision-maker trying to make sense of housing, cities, and economic pressure in Australia, this conversation will sharpen how you think about the next decade.
Episode Highlights
00:00 – What Demographics Say About Housing Demand
01:12 – Why Population Data Beats Property Headlines
01:51 – The Migration Debate: Benefits and Misunderstandings
02:47 – International Students: Cash Cows or Future Workforce?
06:32 – Why Australia’s Skills Shortage Is Structural
13:44 – The Fiscal Reality Behind High Migration Numbers
17:36 – How Migration Policy Could Actually Be Fixed
22:03 – Why Migration Isn’t the Real Cause of High Prices
28:57 – The Integration Challenge for International Students
31:25 – Why Australia’s Economic Model Still Works
33:43 – Density, Sprawl, and the Real Cost of Bad Planning
45:01 – AI Will Push Workers Back Into Offices
48:34 – Why Demographics Point to Stickier Inflation
50:04 – Why Median House Prices Are a Misleading Metric
52:11 – The Big Demographic Blind Spots Investors Miss
About the Guest
Simon Kuestenmacher is a demographer and co-founder of The Demographics Group, where he specialises in population change, migration, generational trends, and how these forces shape housing, infrastructure, and economic outcomes. His work is widely used by governments, planners, and businesses grappling with long-term structural change rather than short-term noise.
Simon is a regular media commentator, a columnist for The Australian and The New Daily, and host of the Demographics Decoded podcast. He is also the author of several books on maps and data and runs one of the world’s largest social media platforms dedicated to demographic insights, reaching millions each month.
Known for translating complex population data into practical insight, Simon brings clarity to some of Australia’s most emotionally charged debates — including housing affordability, migration policy, and the future of work.
Connect with Simon
- The Demographics Group (website)
- LinkedIn
- Instagram
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