Wouter Durville is the CEO and co-founder of TestGorilla, a skills-based hiring platform used by thousands of companies across the globe, backed by $80M in funding. Wouter shares his five-pillar AI fluency framework, explains which traditional hiring signals are genuinely dead, and makes the case for why screening people in matters more than screening them out.

In this episode, we explore:

(01:36) Why Wouter hires for behaviour, not knowledge, every time

(02:24) What TestGorilla actually does and how it flipped the assessment funnel

(07:37) How to test for skills when their half-life is collapsing

(08:32) The five-pillar AI fluency framework Wouter's scientists built

(13:10) Surprising data from the State of AI Fluency report

(15:15) The most wrong thing leaders say about hiring for AI

(18:29) What Wouter would do differently with $80M raised

(20:17) Why established scale-ups can't move as fast as two people with AI tools

(22:00) The Venezuelan medical doctor who topped the SEO assessment

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