In this episode of Ramble by the River, Cody Chalker stops by the crab shed to catch up with Jeff about life. He showed up early and guys start off talking about work, school, and what's cool on TikTok while Jeff finishes setting up the recording equipment. Our interview is cut short when an unexpected attack occurs just outside the studio and Cody has to leave early to take care of an issue that could not be ignored.

In the latter half of the episode, Jeff explains what happened all of the commotion was about, and we get a few teaser clips from the next few episodes coming out over the next month.

This week's episode is a good reminder that we can always work on remaining flexible and adaptive. We never know what random obstacles are going to present themselves and we have to be prepared to make changes on the fly. This episode almost didn't happen. It would have been easy to justify taking the week off after the chaos, but I decided to make something out of it anyway and I am so glad I did. I actually like the way this one turned out in the end and someday it will be a funny memory.

Thank you for being a part of the Ram fam. I appreciate your time and support more than you will ever know.

I hope you enjoy this episode.

Topics/Keywords:

Tik-Tok; golden retrievers; Instagram; Tinder; online dating; electrical wiring; working on the weekends; male-pattern baldness; receding hairline; gray hair; Visine; cannabis; Apple computers; MacOS; Google; WebMD; cancer; dogs; chickens; End of the World Rod Run; Beach Barons; Patriot’s Day; Tom Brady; FTX; Giselle Bundchen; dogs; chickens.

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Cody Chalker 1

intro

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[00:01:52] It started with a car show hosted by this organization called the beach barons, shout out beach parents, and they do a [00:02:00] car show and it's become a very big event. People come from all over the. And they come to check out hot rods. People come in their cars and it's pretty fun, pretty fun event, especially if you've never experienced it.

[00:02:33] I didn't even think about how it could also be such a sad day. What are they calling this Patriot's day it's Patriot's day. Happy Patriot's day, everybody I'll speaking of Tom Brady, I got a text from a friend this morning. It said, Hey, did you see Tom Brady on that crypto commercial? And I had not seen it, but I Googled it and YouTube and I didn't watch it.

[00:03:21] It's cool. I think that represents some kind of mass adoption. It's at least mainstream, if not adoption, it's at least in the public awareness. So that's a good sign. It's a good sign. I wonder if Tom Brady is, I'm sure he owns some. I should have Googled this before I started talking about it on the podcast.

[00:04:01] Maybe I remember it poorly, but I have a very clear memory of it either way. My memory confidence is high, even though that doesn't mean shit. And you'll hear that later on the podcast, but oh, wow. I just got a price alert. Solana is up 14% up to 1 95, 63, 190 $5 and 63 cents. Solano is a cryptocurrency that is a competitor of Ethereum.

[00:04:54] This is not financial advice. I do not recommend you make any purchases of any kind based on what I've [00:05:00] said, but just talking about what I'm excited about Solano is doing well. Yeah. Crypto has been interesting lately. Very interesting. It's cool to follow. I've done a couple of crypto podcasts. Those are in the works.

[00:05:32] You know, you can, you can turn them off or just let it run, you know, turn the volume down and let it run. Now you don't have to turn it off. We don't need those kinds of metrics, but you know, not every episode is going to be for every listener, so it's okay. But yeah, the crypto ones excite me. I think it's fun.

[00:06:10] It could change your life, life changing amounts of money. So if you're poor and you have a smartphone and you're not into crypto time to start thinking smart, download an app and just start doing research. There's a very good chance. It will change your life. I promise. The potential will be obvious right away.

[00:06:43] I wanna help society to be better. It has made a major impact on my life. I have way more money than I used to my it's way easier to pay my bills. I don't struggle nearly as much because I've learned how to invest in crypto. I started with the stock market. [00:07:00] I started with the stock market and I've moved on to crypto because.

[00:07:32] Anyway, this isn't financial advice, except for that last part. Meaning just take your time. Okay. Still not financial advice. Don't Sue me.

[00:08:01] Oh, did you hear that? That's a good one. Hot rods, huh? Yeah. 2001. I was rocking an orange buzz. Cut. You remember those orange buzz cuts? No. Okay. Maybe not. Well, the reason I had that was because every once in a while my mom would, uh, get a wild hair and decided she wanted to blonde us up. So, you know, most of the time that meant she'd get a bottle of sun in, make us go stand out in the sun or, uh, you know, you never know find, uh, you might, every once in a while, a couple of times, a couple of times she got a box of that blonde hair dye.

[00:08:54] It was the early two thousands. You know, cover of every tiger beat had an [00:09:00] in-sync Backstreet boys, just frosted tips. As far as the, I could see, I wanted those frosted tips. What was it so much ask for a chubby boy to get frosted, I guess. So it felt like the world didn't want me to have frosted tips. It's like, no, not you.

[00:09:44] But every once in a while, my mom would get that box of dye. And I think this happened two times and she'd come home and she'd say, Get your fat ass over here. We're going to frost those tips. Uh, mom, you were so gruff. You're so [00:10:00] gruff. Yeah. So she'd get out a piece of tinfoil folded up, folded up real nice.

[00:10:31] And she would take that tinfoil and squirt a bunch of this stinky white stuff all over it, which I assume was peroxide based. And then, you know, I'd have my hair wet and yeah. Just standing on end, just standing at attention, waiting for that, just waiting to get glazed. And then she'd swipe that tinfoil, swipe it back and forth.

[00:11:21] And then voila, beautiful frosted tips or so one would expect, but that's not what happened for me. That's not what happened at all. So in the, in the way I just discussed. In that lovely fashion. I did have my tips frosted when I was, uh, 10 years old, fourth grade, it was a lovely year. Good year. It's really just the beginning of my weight problem.

[00:12:21] I'm not really exactly sure what his beef was in particular, but. Regardless. It was known ahead of time that if we were going to dye our hair, it was an act of defiance. So we've gotta be ready to protect ourselves. Shit's going to go down, you know, verbally at the very least, but, you know, anyway, so this, the second time around seventh grade, 2001, bringing it back around, I already had a buddy.

[00:13:16] So I said, Hey, just frost them. Anyway. They're little, but. And, uh, so I had to just frost them up anyway. And she's like, ah, and I remember as she's doing it, it's like, I don't know, Jeffrey, there's not a lot of hair here. There's I kind of have to just, you know, push it in there. And I was like, ah, that doesn't sound frosted as much as just.

[00:14:01] And M and M was not who I was trying to. In fact, the thought of that actually would freak me out a little bit. This did happen because I thought, oh, no, people are going to think that I'm hard because I'm dressed like M and M and I'm essentially wearing an M and M costume to seventh grade. And I even dyed my hair and cut my hair the way he does.

[00:14:48] My first name is actually Stanton I'm Stanton Jeffrey. So it's, it's a long story, but the connection weirded me out. And I, and I, but you know, I was never a huge Eminem fan either way. I love M and M [00:15:00] uh, I think his music's great. He's just never been one that I got obsessed with. Uh, if you know what I mean, I can respect him as an artist.

[00:15:31] When will he drop an album? It's been so long. I am all in with Frank boy. That guy can make sense. I can't wait for his next shit. Uh, Kanye is, is I'm pretty all in on Kanye. I, my kid Cuddy, I'm all in on kid Cuddy, but you know, M and M was never my guy. So I go to school and, uh, this is maybe a, you know, a week after I had [00:16:00] this freshly dyed haircut.

[00:16:24] George Bush is going to briefly not be thought of as a joke, very briefly. I'm talking like maybe September to June. I don't know, it was a couple of years before we invaded Iraq. That was 2003. But yeah, I remember leading up to September 11th. Bush was like thought of as a joke, not in a, I don't know, not in a sad way, like Trump was, but more in like a, like your drunk uncle type of way, but lovable [00:17:00] and I don't know, somehow capable.

[00:17:29] I, I. See a lot of positive news coverage, people hanging off of planes and shit. Oh man. The world's a mess. It's a mess. But what are you going to do? We're going to focus on the positive, right? Do the best we can because that's all we can do. That's all we can do. So what's so positive about my life right now.

[00:18:21] And, uh, it made editing podcasts very difficult because. I was doing stressful computer work in the first place. And so once I've spent all day staring at a computer screen, it's just almost impossible to stare at a computer screen more. It's it's rough. I just don't. I just, yeah, it's hard. But anyway, I digress.

[00:19:14] Cody is a journeyman electrician and he lives in salt lake city. Yeah. He grew up here in, uh, Surfside, Washington, just down the road from me. And we went to school together and we've been friends for a long time. He even lived with me for a little while up in Bellingham, Washington. His brother, Colton is one of my best friends.

[00:00:03] Cody Chalker: retrievers. Cause they got a hip problems and there's like some, some veterinarians think it doesn't matter, but some think that you should wait until

[00:00:19] Cody Chalker: Alrighty.

[00:00:21] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah.

[00:00:31] No one. I'm like, I usually it's my TV watching time. I'll take talk instead sometimes.

[00:00:42] Cody Chalker: Yeah. Yeah, you spent, if you do it during the day, you're just like, not even paying attention to some shit. You're just

[00:00:51] Cody Chalker: like shit. I've wasted my whole life on this desktop.

[00:00:56] Jeff Nesbitt: It's nice to be able to just chill sometimes and watch something [00:01:00] and asleep

[00:01:04] There's some funny shit on there.

[00:01:14] Cody Chalker: Yeah. I never do Instagram, so never. No. Hello. I got one like a few weeks ago or a month, couple of months ago and I never actually use it. Never do posts. I know. I know some guy was telling me that's how he gets all his girls.

[00:01:47] You're not competing with all the pros. You look at a girl's Tinder count. She's got like 50 dudes on there.

[00:02:02] Cody Chalker: online dating. No, no

[00:02:12] Cody Chalker: different,

[00:02:15] Cody Chalker: you said there's this beer on Tik TOK. This girl, like she, she, uh, Uh, pranks people and she goes up to dudes, is this hot girl. And she says, do you want to have sex with me? It's just like ask them and takes videos of it. And like the way I saw them react like this one dude took forever to say yes. And it's like, she's just sitting there all the time with a serious face on it.

[00:02:46] Jeff Nesbitt: would, uh, I would have some questions

[00:03:04] Colton do have any electrical or anything?

[00:03:12] Cody Chalker: cords? Oh yeah. Is it, is that how he does it? He should come

[00:03:26] Jeff Nesbitt: I don't know about how they do it. You talk, but around here, we like the wires in the walls.

[00:03:35] Jeff Nesbitt: What actually happens is started helping me. And, uh, we, we strung wire across the ceiling of the shop from the junction box or from the, the breaker box over to the junction box.

[00:04:17] Yeah, so we stopped and then it took me six months to get Colton, to help me with the house. Cause it was a real pain in the ass and we just really kind of just finished that. So I haven't even started thinking about asking them for more help yet, but he was really helpful. On the house?

[00:04:45] Either bed, hell buddies out. I

[00:04:49] All right. I'm just going to take a few pictures of you while we're talking about us while we're talking.

[00:05:01] Jeff Nesbitt: right? I don't believe

[00:05:07] Cody Chalker: Oh, I definitely am. Dude. You got a receding hairline and gray hairs coming in.

[00:05:16] Yeah. Yeah, your dad was

[00:05:20] Jeff Nesbitt: I don't remember how old your dad was, but he was not old. Yeah. Pretty much fully gray as they call it like kindergarten.

[00:05:36] Jeff Nesbitt: and some people go gray really early.

[00:05:38] Cody Chalker: got all kinds of

[00:05:54] Cody Chalker: bald now. Yeah. At least gray hair. You can kind of do diet a little bit.

[00:06:04] Jeff Nesbitt: It's starting to, it would look weird if you didn't at this point. Yeah, no,

[00:06:28] If I shaved, I'd probably look younger for sure.

[00:06:36] Melissa Nesbitt: Sings are crazy.

[00:06:43] Cody Chalker: To get one of those sometime, but I just imagined a bunch of people doing Tik TOK off those.

[00:06:51] Cody Chalker: how stoned

[00:06:57] Cody Chalker: you're self-conscious about the redness.

[00:07:03] Jeff Nesbitt: I don't use him as much as I used to. They're bad for your eyes now? Shit. Well, the visine or,

[00:07:19] Usually I just don't buy it. And then my buddy smokes me out every once in a while.

[00:07:27] Cody Chalker: Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, the first time I took a hit, right when I crossed the border, I was, I felt like I was tripping balls there. I still had to get back on the highway and keep driving.

[00:07:38] Jeff Nesbitt: I'm listening. I'm gonna adjust you. Well, shouldn't drive like this. So you stay where you're at. I'm going to talk to you. So this is all adjustable. Um, feel free to move it. I want you talking to the front. Okay. About that distance is good. Okay. Um, yeah, even go turn your switch up a little bit, like just barely past nine.

[00:08:11] Cody Chalker: So right

[00:08:17] Jeff Nesbitt: Just a

[00:08:20] Jeff Nesbitt: past like you around 11. Yeah. That's why you're always late. No, just kidding. You're early today. All right. Test, test, test, test, test. Pretty good. Yeah. So I plugged this into the actually go ahead and do one more little, tiny bit up.

[00:08:50] Cody Chalker: a quiet person, so

[00:09:14] Band's been glitching every time I use it. And it's, for some reason, it's not saving my files too. I can't find them. Like I don't, I deleted something on accident and I don't know how to fix it. So like every time I record something, when I go to save it, it'll say, could not find all these files, like all the files.

[00:09:39] Cody Chalker: one book would be good for this kind of stuff.

[00:09:51] But, um, it's a lot of work and you know, I have a job already. Oh yeah. So

[00:10:02] Melissa Nesbitt: Um, well,

[00:10:08] Cody Chalker: How'd you get that? Switched over just guessing a bunch of times. Yeah.

[00:10:19] Cody Chalker: I do Google, even from my job still, sometimes everybody

[00:10:31] You're like, oh, also I've got a weird pain in the back of my shoulder. What do you think that could be? They have no fucking idea. Yeah, I need to know ahead of time so they can Google it. You know what I

[00:10:49] Jeff Nesbitt: months, everybody.

[00:10:57] Cody Chalker: I got really bad phobia when it comes [00:11:00] to, I get my

[00:11:14] Oh yeah, because it's so prevalent. It's everywhere. Yeah. And I really don't want to get it. Yeah.

[00:11:20] Jeff Nesbitt: 100%. And the spraying chemicals makes, I mean, a lot of people would assume I'm definitely going to get it. Yeah. And those people are assholes, but

[00:11:47] Melissa Nesbitt: [00:12:00] I do

outro

[00:00:18] So you see a lot of dogs in trucks, dogs in cars. It's a cold place. It's not that big of a deal. And. The people who I'm the closest with tend to bring their dogs to come record a podcast. And I'm still new at podcasting. So I don't want to be that guy. Who's like, oh no, don't bring your dog to podcast because dogs breathe really loud.

[00:01:00] Don't bring your dog when you go come podcasting places. Just so you know, however, I didn't say any of that stuff to my guest Cody Chalker, my good friend. So I wasn't surprised anything. When his dog, a beautiful young, vibrant golden retriever with that kind of a pale golden, just shiny white, soft happiest could be the kind of dog you just want to hug.

[00:01:53] You probably heard my wife in the background come running in and screaming. We got a problem. We've got a problem. We've got [00:02:00] a problem. She came running in and screamed freak me the fuck out.

[00:02:23] When I walked out there, he was sprinting across the yard, proudly carrying the bird in his, in his jaws and, you know, kind of giving her, giving her a little shake here and there just for good measure. And yeah, my daughter's standing on the porch watching this. So the first thing I do is run out there and I was like, Melissa, please take Amelia into the house.

[00:03:05] He's a year and a half old. I think he's a puppy, you know, full grown dogs, body. And he's a retriever. So this, my friend Colton pointed this out later, but maybe he. Thought he was supposed to grab the bird. I was like, Hey, I see a bird. I grab it. I bring it back. That's what I do. I'm a retriever. So who knows?

[00:03:43] After all that, though, uh, we were all kind of emotionally drained and I had been just like carrying my three-year-old around the yard, consoling her while she cried. It was, it was not the most conducive environment for baby. [00:04:00] Honestly, Cody seemed a little shook by the whole thing. The dog was shook by the whole thing.

[00:04:27] So that's what. And I got him back in here just today. We've got some great stuff coming up. In the meantime, we have an episode featuring Dr. David Shirazi. Who's asleep expert.

shirazi teaser

[00:00:22] Jeff Nesbitt: right after this podcast.

[00:00:55] So what happened with the new German medicine? I want to say 40 50 years [00:01:00] ago, there was a psychiatrist and his son, was tragically killed. And it took him a month to die. It was a horrible, horrible thing. Highly traumatic event. After his son passed, he developed testicular cancer

[00:01:30] And they said, we don't know. But if you don't treat it, there's an 80% chance of death in a year. Okay. So then he asked his testicular and ovarian cancer patients, right before your diagnosis, did you have a sudden loss?

[00:02:00] Like just to paraphrase, , he concluded that the brain has a mechanism whereby there's unmanageable stress, right.

[00:02:40] How can we get him more sun? Oh, we can make, , more sperm. Well, how do we make more sperm? Well, we gotta make more testicular tissue. Okay. Let's make more testicular tissue then whole, which is what, which is what cancer is, is it's a redundancy in tissue. So, um, predominantly, so, [00:03:00] uh, so

[00:03:04] David Shirazi: was a psychiatrist.

And we talk about TMJ disorders. That's a temporomandibular joint. We talk about sleep disorders in particular , sleep apnea.

[00:05:09] And she reached out to me about coming on the podcast said she just had some stuff she wanted to talk about.

Cindy Guzman teaser

[00:00:06] You know, it's, it's these doors, you have to open up for yourself. Like, what do you mean exactly? Um, you could stay in the stigma. You could stay in the label that you are prone to. but you, you you're the one, it takes only you to break down all those

[00:00:25] Okay. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. I like where you're going.

[00:00:53] I mean, I'm coming up

[00:00:56] Cindy Guzman: And then when we came back, like, honestly, like I had a total different [00:01:00] mindset, like I would. Blessed that I had everything I had. I don't think I was a bad kid when I was growing up. I just don't think my mom understood that what we were going through in school, um, is different than what she grew up with.

We had a good time and that will be out soon. And yeah, we have

ross kary teaser

[00:00:07] Jeff Nesbitt: still, I mean, we'll probably look back five years from now and be like, we should have just spent our life savings that day. Right. We recorded this podcast, right?

[00:00:34] Ross Kary: mentoring

[00:00:46] Like it's probably not going to. Right. But the, yeah, the digital art is one that's like, it's a real hard sell. I think I'm just old enough to really have a hard time, like [00:01:00] accepting the idea of paying that kind of exorbitant money for digital art. Right. I see why people would.

[00:01:13] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. It's a bubble. It's a bubble that everyone knows is a bubble. Right. But, and so, you know, it's eventually gonna pop, but you don't know when, and you don't know where it's going to land. Right. So why wouldn't

[00:01:32] I got to buy one for 2000. Yeah.

[00:01:53] Ross Kary: I was watching Alex Becker's Twitter and Jr and white crypto, when they told all their [00:02:00] followers to buy board apes, the board ape yacht club at $5,000.

Outro

And we stuck pretty close to the topic on that one. We did not venture outside of crypto very much. So that is the crypto podcast. If you're into it, that's the one to go to. That will be out in a few weeks as well.

[00:06:10] We've done a lot of podcasts that haven't got aired. So it's something that I like to go through every once in a while and pick out the gym. So that's going to go on the Patrion. If you're interested in subscribing, it is Patreon.com/ramble by the river. And another way to get there is just go to ramble by the river.com and there's links for all this stuff there.

[00:06:55] Bye everybody.