Beth from Cool Girls returns to discuss Cylon sphincter detectors. Laura wonders what the Galatica crew is smoking. Xhafer mansplains comedy. This episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 2, Episode 20: Lay Down Your Burdens, Part 2.

Find more of Beth and Laura on Cool Girls Don't Look at Explosions now in season 2 on your favorite podcatcher!

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Hello and welcome to Gais.

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Baltar is a little bitch.

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This is the podcast all about how

Gais Baltar is a little bitch.

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I'm your host, Laura.

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Xhafer: I am Jair.

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Beth: And uh, I'm also on the

guy's, Balter is a bitch train.

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This is Beth.

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Laura: Yeah, and that's not

actually the name of our podcast.

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I made a joke.

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Xhafer: It can be for

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this one.

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Beth: a good joke he's a bitch.

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Laura: tried to make an email

address too, and it wouldn't let me.

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Did you know Gmail doesn't like

swear words in an email address?

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I

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Beth: know that.

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I did know that.

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'cause one of my email addresses starts

with sassy bastard and I had to change the

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spelling of bastard to make it accepted.

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Laura: Oh, yeah.

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Can't use those special

characters though, either.

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I tried that.

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Beth: Yeah, no,

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Laura: Yeah.

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Maybe we should tell the

people who we really are.

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Beth: Oh yes.

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Okay.

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Probably.

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Xhafer: uh, We're Who are you?

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We're a reasonably well done sci-fi

watch cast, hosted by a couple friends

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who used to be strangers back in

like season one of Babylon five.

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But that was a long ass time ago.

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Now we just shoot the shit all the time.

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It's great.

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Laura: it's the best.

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And we get to hang out with like

each other's partners and stuff.

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It's amazing.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Beth, my partner, also co-host

with you over on Cool Girls

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Don't Look at Explosions.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Now in season two

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Which I feel like as a man, I

should really take the lead in

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explaining your podcast for you.

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Beth: Absolutely.

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Why don't you mansplain

to the people our podcast.

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Xhafer: See, what they do is they take

their unique feminine perspective and they

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watch TV shows that my dad would've really

liked from like the eighties and nineties.

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Laura: mm.

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Xhafer: And they do that

with the women brains.

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Oh, I gotta stop now.

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Beth: Oh no.

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Oh,

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Laura: Oh, there's the line

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Xhafer: there.

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It

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is.

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Found it.

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I was gonna keep going until I

found it, so I'm glad that that

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bit could be over with now.

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'cause

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Beth: My traction to you was waning

just a little as I was going.

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Oh,

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Laura: amazing.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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Humor everyone.

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Clearly humor.

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It's a very funny podcast.

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Beth: yes, please.

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Mansplain humor to the people.

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Xhafer: I,

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Laura: That's every podcast.

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Stop.

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Stop.

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We'll be just like everyone else.

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Beth: Oh, great.

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Xhafer: so we're here today to

talk about Battlestar Galactica,

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season two, episode 20.

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Lay down your burdens part two.

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is a biggie.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: This is, this is the episode

where everything changes for this show.

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Laura: You don't say, huh?

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Xhafer: Like, we can't,

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like, uh, obviously I'm not gonna get

into any spoilers here but when we

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talk about a TV show doing a time jump,

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: this was one of the first, like

in this kind of like in this manner where

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it wasn't just like time passed as normal.

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There are obviously shows that had

done it before Alias, which we're

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actually covering over on LTO right now.

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Is famous for having a time jump as well.

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I don't know when it is.

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I just know that there is one and

I can't guess that as a prediction,

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as recovering alias because of it.

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And that also means, now that I've said

it on this pod, Ben and Vic can't either.

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So,

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Laura: you ruined

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Xhafer: got them.

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Beth: eh.

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Xhafer: You know what, if either

of them make that prediction, we

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we're gonna record an episode in

between this one recording and airing

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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You'll let

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Xhafer: if I'll let it stand.

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But I'm gonna laugh and say you should

listen to who are you this week.

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So this is your pass if

that happens to happen.

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Beth: Fun fact about Alias.

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I watched that as a very small child.

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Well, my dad watched it and I just

kind of peeked around the corner

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'cause I wasn't old enough to

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Laura: sure.

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Yeah.

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I was gonna say, it doesn't feel

like a very small child kind of show.

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Yeah.

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Beth: no.

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My parents watched it.

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I just peeked around the corner and

I thought Jennifer Garner's pink

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wig was so cool that that's why I

dye my hair so much as an adult.

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Like I'm sure that that had such

a huge impression on me as a

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Laura: That's, that's your origin story.

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Yeah.

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Beth: Yes.

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Jennifer Garner in a pink wig.

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Xhafer: Okay.

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Laura: Yeah.

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This time jump.

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I, I have a feeling we're not gonna

have a year of hell style situation

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where we can like, erase that in

season three and just go back,

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Beth: No, but God,

don't you wish we could?

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Xhafer: No, there is no,

there's no going back.

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But that's the end of the episode.

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We should probably start at

the beginning of the episode.

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Beth: So here's the thing.

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I know I was saying something,

but I kind of forgot what it was.

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Laura: That

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Beth: I was just, I was

dunking on Gaia Ballar.

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'cause don't we open on him?

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Just banging like clearly in the

throes of some sort of sexual situation

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with two of his very young interns.

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Laura: yet.

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Xhafer: way later in the

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Beth: Nevermind.

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Laura: I mean, when we have kind

of like the second cold open.

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Yes.

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That is how it, it works.

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Beth: yeah, yeah.

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Okay.

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Sorry, everybody.

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Xhafer: Well, it's the first cold open.

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'cause there is no cold open.

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This episode we get

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last

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time on and then it

goes straight to theme.

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Laura: like an inverted cold open.

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We threw the cold open at the end.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Beth: Inverse.

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Laura: Yes.

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This is the first time

we've gone straight to

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Xhafer: I think so.

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Uh, So Survivor count 49,550.

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This is down 29 from last episode.

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Laura: Yeah, so we had the people that got

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Xhafer: Mountain.

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Laura: into the mountain.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Raptor six 1 2.

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Beth: Yeah, that's right.

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Laura: We had some people get blowed

up on Caprica, probably with them.

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Those uh,

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Xhafer: pre presumably some

people got blown up on Caprica.

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: We don't know how many,

we don't know how many are there.

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I mean, if each Raptor is only a, a

pilot, a navigator, and two Marines,

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then they've only got 10 Marines

with them for the five raptors

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that make it out of the seven.

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Laura: Hmm.

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Beth: Why don't we put the body count

at, um, a bummer of an amount of people

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Beth: lost.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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We just don't know where some of these

bodies come from, especially given the

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close timeframe of these episodes, and

we're never really given a chance to find

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out where they come from due to the nature

of the last 20 minutes of this episode.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Beth: Hmm.

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Xhafer: We do get another population

number much later that we will talk about.

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Then

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Laura: I think we do need to talk

about that one, 'cause I'm confused.

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Xhafer: there's, it makes

more sense than it looks like.

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Um,

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Laura: Sure.

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Xhafer: so we open on the cys,

assaulting the Capric survivors and the

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rescue mission to retrieve them here.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: They kind of make their

way out of the ambush a little bit.

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They're starting to like maneuver and

try to escape, but they're kind of fucked

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: at this moment.

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We uh, cut over to Callie, who's in

rough shape coddle minus 10 points.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: makes a really shitty

joke here about you know, only a

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woman would find a way to complain

with their mouth wired shut.

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And the thing that makes it even

worse is, besides it just being a bad

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sexist joke, is it could apply just

as easily by not being a sexist joke.

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He could just have said like, leave

it to a lower deck to complain

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with their jaw wired shut, done.

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Laura: Or just like leave it to Callie.

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Like maybe that's Callie's thing,

and she just complains a lot.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Like there's like a bunch of ways

you can make this work without

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it being explicitly sexist

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and I expect better

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from

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Beth: patients complain?

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Ooh.

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You know what I mean?

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Like,

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Laura: Hmm.

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Xhafer: There's a bunch

of ways it could go.

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Beth: I'm a wisened old boomer with

a cigarette dangling from my lips

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while I sew somebody's jaw shut.

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Xhafer: Nailed it.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah, no.

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I was like, okay, doc Coddle,

you lost them with them points.

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You do have kind of a lot of points,

but you lost some of them today.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: But Callie is like also

lost points with me because she's

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doing the, with her jaw wired shut.

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It's okay.

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I forgive you.

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You were in pain.

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And I'm like, I don't know Callie.

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I don't know about that.

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Xhafer: We talked about this enough

last episode where, I don't know if

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you noticed, if you, do you listen

to podcasts on Spotify at all?

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All podcasts on Spotify now

have automated chapters.

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Laura: oh, no.

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Okay.

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Xhafer: So, and not even anything that

we did and the chap, like, there's a

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chapter named after our conversation.

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this bit.

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Laura: Oh, no.

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Xhafer: That's just like God.

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What is, what was it?

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Let me see if I can unpacking the

controversial domestic violence.

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Laura: Uh uh, well, that is a

really like tasteful little AI

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description of the conversation.

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Beth: Yeah.

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Xhafer: But I mean, yeah,

it still doesn't feel great.

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I, I, yeah, it's bad.

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There's enough other stuff to talk about

this episode where if you want to hear

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our thoughts, I'm sure they, they were

the exact same as they were last week.

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Laura: Yeah.

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There's nothing new here

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Xhafer: Um, but Beth, you didn't

get a chance to offer any thought.

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So if you wanna talk about how

fucking weird and creepy and

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domestic violence this is have at.

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Beth: Well, I think that we are seeing

the cycle of abuse pretty clearly

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here, and it doesn't make me feel

comfortable and it doesn't make me

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like the, like the Chief very much.

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And Callie needs therapy

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Laura: Yeah.

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Beth: like,

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Laura: Yeah.

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I think that you could do a

whole show that would, it would

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have to be a dark comedy, right?

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Where it's like Battlestar

Galactica, but from the point of

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view of like the ship's counselor,

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Beth: Oh my God.

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Yeah.

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Holy shit.

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Laura: they really need

a Deanna Troy like super

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Beth: So

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Beth: Like holy shit.

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Laura: Especially they need Deanna Troy

because you know, she's got them Beta Z

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woowoo powers that are very convenient

for the plot whenever we need them to be.

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And she could see through people's

like lying to themselves and bullshit.

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And that would be so helpful on this show.

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'cause I think there's a lot of

lying to ourselves in bullshit.

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Xhafer: Yeah,

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Beth: there is.

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But also I feel like it's important

to point out that Callie is, there's,

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there's a power imbalance there,

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Xhafer: Oh

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yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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it's

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our boss

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Beth: she, you like,

what is she gonna say?

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I don't forgive you, and

then get beat up again.

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You know what I mean?

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And she's like stuck on this ship

with him and like, that's, fuck yeah.

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That's fucking terrifying.

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Like,

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Laura: Yeah, and Galactica needs

its people really bad, so it's not

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like she can just be like, Hey, how

about a transfer to the Pegasus?

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I mean, you know, Adama and

Lee would probably do that, I

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Trade somebody over there.

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Laura: but she feels the

loyalty to the Galactica, right?

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Beth: right and then she'd be on

the Pegasus and we don't like them.

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Laura: oh, yeah.

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And

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Beth: They're ickier.

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Laura: guys,

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Beth: They're even worse.

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Laura: oh yeah.

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Would she be any safer on the

Pegasus with the, the rapists?

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Beth: Right.

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Xhafer: The,

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Laura: Uh,

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Kelly's in a hard spot.

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Kelly's in a hard spot, but.

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Xhafer: We go over to Caprica yellow

where the fighting stops suddenly Sharon

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tells them it's so that they can gas

them for prisoners and interrogate some

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and take the others off to the farms.

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The notion of which prompt star

bees to ask Sam for a suicide pack.

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Fair enough?

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Beth: mean, fair enough.

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She got, you know, captured by the silence

at one time and it was pretty traumatic.

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Like again, Deanna Troy just

throwing up the Troy signal.

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I don't, what would that look like?

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Would it just be like her big hair bump,

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like the

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Big curly hair bump.

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I would love that.

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Beth: That'd be so

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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In a little bat symbol coming

soon to our merch store.

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Um,

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Beth: Oh, so cute.

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Well, she could be wearing

like a fabulous Afghan thing.

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Laura: Uh, Deanna, Troy

needed more Afghans.

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They should have allowed that.

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less catsuit, more Afghan.

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Beth: Yeah.

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Laura: That's what I want for everyone.

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Beth: Calf dance calf, Dan.

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Laura: Oh,

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Beth: Although everyone

needs a Afghan too.

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'cause you can't tell me the

enterprise isn't a chili ship.

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It's chili.

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It's gotta be

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Laura: Just the vibes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Beth: and all that like tech.

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It's gotta be cool

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Laura: Oh yeah.

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We have to be cooling our

computers at all times.

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Yeah.

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Beth: You wouldn't, you know,

know from the amount of times

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Rikers nips are out, but

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I think that ship's pretty.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: it's a little chilly.

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Beth: Nips out for enterprise.

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You heard it here first.

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Xhafer: Let's see here.

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We go over to the election after this.

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Laura: uhhuh.

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Xhafer: It's not going well for Rosalyn

who refuses to compromise or lie

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to win, but Tory has a backup plan.

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Laura: Yeah.

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She does this little rant about how

stupid and shortsighted people are,

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Xhafer: Yikes.

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Laura: that doesn't.

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Cut close to home at all.

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Does it?

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She knows it's gonna be a disaster, but

she won't like just lie a little bit to

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appease the people and keep her spot.

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But we're gonna find out Tori

will do something much worse.

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So I don't, I don't know,

Rosalyn, I don't love this either.

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Beth: yeah.

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Although see, like Tori's got that

chaotic good queen thing going on,

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Xhafer: You know what this,

it feels like a lot to me.

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Like Rosalyn might be part of,

say, a political party where they

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look at their opponent and they go,

that's a disgusting, bumbling fool.

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No one would ever possibly vote for him.

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We don't need to campaign on anything.

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So when the disgusting, bumbling

fool says something that makes people

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at least remotely interested in

possibly voting, they just flock.

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And then, you know, Rosalyn

just refuses to do anything.

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To make themselves want to have a vote.

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Laura: Listener, Beth's eyes.

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First one was twitching and then it moved

to the other during that whole rant.

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Very serious eye twitching.

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Xhafer: Wouldn an absurd premise.

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Laura: Totally absurd.

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Beth: Yeah.

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Laura: Definitely wouldn't run

into that idea 20 years later.

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Beth: Yeah, I mean, I'm super glad

we're not experiencing that right now.

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Xhafer: yeah, it'd be terrible.

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Uh, We cut back to Caprica yellow

where it's been 18 hours with no change

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since the Cylons stopped attacking.

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Laura: Yeah.

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uh,

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It's gotta be super nerve wracking too,

because like taking longer at something

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than they usually do is a silent tactic.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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Yeah.

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Laura: Like literally we've seen it.

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Xhafer: Yeah, they've done,

we've seen them do this before.

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We'll just wait another 10 minutes.

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Fuck the Yumi.

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Beth: Yeah.

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Let's see if we can make their butts

unc unclenched just a little bit.

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Then we'll attack like,

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Laura: Yeah.

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The second our sphincter detectors go

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Beth: yeah.

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The second we just, we just need another,

another two centimeters of dilation from

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those sphincters, and then we're in.

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Xhafer: now Cavel shows up here on

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Caprica.

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Right?

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Laura: The bastard.

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Xhafer: So good.

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It's so good.

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And he's just all like,

oh, we should pray.

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Right?

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Like, doing this stuff, being

his mocking asshole self.

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But like Starbuck, like looks

at Sam, and Sam looks like he

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also does not recognize Cavel.

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This leads me to believe that Cavel

was not implanted with the resistance

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and just snuck into where they were

hiding and then made his entrance right

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there and they just assumed he was

with them and he just rolled with it.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Somehow this old guy just managed

to come on our huge firefight

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Xhafer: yeah,

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Laura: and make it through, you know?

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I guess maybe he's kept up his cardio.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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Beth: I do love a campy entrance.

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Gotta say

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like

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Laura: not only do we get campy entrance

though, we get like excellent cut because

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he's throwing up his hands to praise,

praise the Lord for our deliverance.

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And at the same time he is

praying with Rosalyn on Galactica.

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Xhafer: Just to like make sure that

you didn't think that maybe for

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some reason he was on one of those

raptors after chilling with Tyrell.

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Laura: Oh yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: They really have to drive

home that you know, that he's a

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silent at this point, if only for

the comedy of two scenes from now,

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Which is one of my favorite

scenes in the entire show.

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Beth: I mean, I really like how he,

like it was last episode, right?

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Part one where he's like, well, I go

to the si we silence, have a meeting

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every month and you weren't there.

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Um,

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Laura: That's when Laura was like, ah.

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He is definitely a silent.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Called this one.

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Laura: I kind of want that

line to show up again.

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Like I really want another silent to

do that line because it would, it would

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give me the giggles at this point,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Beth: And then the end of the

show is just all of the sidelines

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at the sideline meeting.

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And there's like the coffee and the stale

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Xhafer: They made a whole movie about it.

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It's called the plan.

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It it, they did it after they finished

the show where it shows the story

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of it's, it's the silence

perspective of like the first, I

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think it, is it the first season?

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I forget where it ends.

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Where it goes up to,

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Laura: Okay.

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That's fun.

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And it's just like, okay, you

know, here's our keynote cylon,

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to discuss the overall strategy.

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And we've got the heads of marketing

and operations over here, and

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they're gonna give speeches.

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Beth: And they're still using PowerPoint

on Windows 10 or something like.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Fuck it.

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They can use Dos Easy.

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They don't need a fucking

graphic user interface.

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Fuck that.

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Command prompts all day.

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Laura: They're just gonna jack

right in to the projector.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Beth: Yeah.

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Xhafer: They are the USB drive.

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Beth: finger right in there.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Rosalyn meets with Baltar here

to get him to try and set aside the

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issue of settlement until after the

election, and he's like, fuck you.

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I'm not giving you this election like that

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Beth: he was such a

condescending little bitch

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Xhafer: I look, I, I don't want to give

guys Baltar credit for anything, but

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he is a thousand percent correct here

to the second roslyn's all like, let's

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just set this one thing that you've

gained political traction on a side.

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This is fucking shitty of Roslyn to

be like, it's all like, I've decided

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I don't want to take a side, so I'm

gonna ask you to not take a side too.

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Instead of just taking a fucking

side, Rosalyn, maybe if you ran on

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a fucking platform every once in a

while, you'd win a fucking election.

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Laura: I, I don't think

this is about Rosalyn

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Xhafer: It never was.

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Beth: This has nothing to do

with anything in real time.

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What?

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Laura: I was gonna say that.

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This just reminds me of Rosalyn's letter.

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I think this is just Rosalyn's letter.

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One more time.

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Delivered face to face, because like

before, she couldn't, she couldn't

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lick him in the eyeballs and give

that letter because she was dying.

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Like, and she was busy dying.

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Xhafer: yeah,

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Laura: But she's

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Beth: lot of time.

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Yeah.

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Laura: trying to remind him like,

you could be a better human being.

523

Xhafer: yeah.

524

He's not interested in that.

525

Just like when she brings up

seeing him with a six before

526

the attack, he dodges and leaves

527

Beth: and I love how condescending he was.

528

Like, she was just like, Ooh, let's

meet and quiet or whatever, and he's

529

like, Ooh, this is such a quaint

defense mechanism or something.

530

Just like, fuck you.

531

I want to take that doctor's cigarette

and stab you in the dick with it.

532

You piece of shit.

533

Xhafer: How does he still have smokes?

534

Where

535

Laura: they're not cigars anymore.

536

Xhafer: Yeah.

537

Laura: He's got cigarettes now.

538

I think he had cigars before, right?

539

I,

540

Xhafer: Do you think they just like

cut up the cigars to make cigarettes?

541

I,

542

Laura: I mean, maybe right.

543

Beth: or do we think that they've

created some sort of like.

544

Underground tobacco growing situation.

545

Somewhere in like a cabin.

546

Xhafer: you need to cure that shit.

547

I mean, it's space, so maybe you

548

just do

549

Beth: it on the vents or whatever.

550

Man, it's fine.

551

Xhafer: but

552

Laura: I mean, what about synthetic?

553

Like are they gonna take some like

industrial waste and be like, oh,

554

guess what, we can kind of smoke this.

555

Xhafer: that

556

sounds like the most humanity thing ever.

557

Laura: I mean, gestures broadly.

558

Beth: It's true.

559

I've just listened to a

podcast all about Creto.

560

Laura: I was kind of

thinking of that actually.

561

Beth: Yeah, it's terrifying.

562

It starts off as a leaf and then

people like brew it into a drink.

563

So there you go.

564

Xhafer: the ties argue about

settlement as Starbuck's rescue

565

Mission returns with survivors.

566

when the DAMA meets Sam here and he's,

he is like, oh yeah, the caprica bucks.

567

I was always a Picon Panthers fan.

568

Laura: It's very cute,

569

Xhafer: That's fucking weird.

570

He grew up on Caprica.

571

Laura: I mean,

572

Xhafer: This is like Ben

being a fucking Cowboys fan.

573

It's fucking weird.

574

Laura: sometimes you pick a team

575

' Beth: cause the Cowboys suck, Ben,

576

Xhafer: If they didn't have the

worst owner in the NFL, I wouldn't

577

give 'em as much shit about it, but

578

they do.

579

Beth: Pick a better team.

580

Pick literally any other team.

581

Laura: So at this point, Laura

turns to Erin and she says,

582

oh no, they're already back.

583

Which means escape from

Caprica is not the drama.

584

Xhafer: No.

585

Laura: else is the drama.

586

Xhafer: Oh, there's so

587

Laura: Oh no,

588

Beth: a hella drama dude.

589

Laura: this show is do does this to me.

590

Every few episodes.

591

It's like, Hey, this thing

that you think we're setting

592

up is gonna be the big drama.

593

It's over

594

Xhafer: We

595

finished that 15 minutes in.

596

Beth: really love how, how Starbuck,

you know, introduced this guy that

597

she likes to her father basically.

598

That was very cute.

599

'cause like they just came

back from a war essentially.

600

And the first order of business is,

dad, I'd like you to meet my boyfriend.

601

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

602

Beth: Do you like him?

603

Like

604

Xhafer: He's a professional sports ball

605

Beth: Yeah, the kernels of humanity

are what in betwixt, all the other shit

606

really is what makes this show so good.

607

Laura: Yes.

608

And you know that like she's not talked

to Adama directly about Sam Anders.

609

I, I believe in my heart, like

610

Beth: Yeah.

611

Laura: maybe Adama has heard from Lee

a little bit about Sam Anders, but

612

Star Be's, I believe she left all that

out when she talked to Adama about how

613

badly she needs to rescue her boyfriend.

614

She just needs to rescue the humans.

615

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

616

Beth: definitely didn't

say, my man's is down there.

617

Let's go get 'em.

618

You know?

619

Laura: right.

620

She doesn't wanna jeopardize

her credibility with Daddy

621

in that that way, but

622

Xhafer: Yeah,

623

Laura: yeah, no, I get it.

624

Xhafer: Cavel gets off this raptor

625

Laura: yeah.

626

Xhafer: and Tyrell's all like the

fuck, well the frack and charges

627

him just IDs him immediately and

he's just all like, take me to

628

your leader, which was hilarious.

629

Beth: Yeah, that was pretty good.

630

Xhafer: And then Adama.

631

Laura: how weird is this for everyone

else in that room when Tyrell, the

632

man who just beat the shit out of

Cali for no reason, charges at a

633

guy, the, you don't really, no.

634

Like there goes Chief Tyrell

beating the shit outta people again.

635

Like, Aw, that's our Tyrell.

636

Beth: And that's how we know there's no

anger management aboard any of the ships.

637

Laura: I mean, he's, he's

right, like Brother Cylon is

638

like bad, bad business, right?

639

Beth: for sure.

640

But the, like

641

everybody

642

Laura: split second.

643

Beth: Yeah.

644

Everybody's sitting there like, brother,

will you spare a crumb of context?

645

You know?

646

Xhafer: Yeah.

647

This is, this is so fucking great here.

648

And they take him to the BRI and

also Sharon because of course she

649

fucking knew Caval was a silent.

650

It's like, how could she not know?

651

Laura: Yeah.

652

Beth: Yeah.

653

He doesn't have a butthole to clench,

you know, so she's all like, I

654

sense your lack of butthole, dude.

655

Laura: Mm-hmm.

656

Xhafer: is pretty upset about

her not saying anything.

657

Laura: Yeah.

658

WTF mate.

659

Xhafer: I, I kind of under, I

understand where she's coming from

660

for sure, because she's all like,

fuck you, they killed my baby.

661

They don't deserve my

662

trust.

663

Laura: Yeah.

664

Yep.

665

Xhafer: also you're not acting

in your own self-interest and

666

I mean, it's election season.

667

If there was a time to act in your own

self-interest and be aware of what that

668

was, you would think it would be now.

669

Laura: Mm-hmm.

670

Mm-hmm.

671

Beth: I mean, I think that we are, we're

going on pure rage alone with she, she's

672

not thinking about any of that shit.

673

She's just mad and she

wants revenge and that's it.

674

Laura: Yeah, she's, she's

just here to fuck shit up now.

675

But that whole, yeah.

676

Okay.

677

I guess maybe baby overrides that,

but I, I still maintain that.

678

I think Sharon should be smarter than

this and realize that like, I don't know

679

where my baby is, but my baby's not dead.

680

Xhafer: Yeah.

681

I mean, she said that too, like she's

alluded to knowing instinctually

682

but it's just like she's pissed.

683

She deserves to be pissed

684

Laura: Mm-hmm.

685

Xhafer: and I'm not gonna

try and say otherwise,

686

but there's being upset and then there is

actively hurting yourself by being angry

687

And,

688

Laura: and and the one you kept

saying, you cared about so much.

689

I love you, Hilo.

690

We are making a baby together, Hilo,

we are together, blah, blah, blah.

691

They, they could like kill Hilo over this.

692

They could

693

Xhafer: Yeah,

694

Laura: like,

695

you know what?

696

Beth: Yeah.

697

Laura: Or put him in his

own Bri, or something

698

Xhafer: And even more than that, like

she leaves the silences because she

699

doesn't trust them to not kill Hilo.

700

That's the whole reason why she

leaves with him in the first

701

place when she's pregnant.

702

And so to like hang out in the

raptor with him and Cavel and to

703

not say shit is also fucking weird.

704

Laura: Mm-hmm.

705

Beth: But she's the one she got

raped in a few episodes ago.

706

Yes.

707

Laura: No,

708

Beth: No, that was the copy of her.

709

Xhafer: No, that was her.

710

Beth: That

711

Laura: but she

712

Xhafer: That was Sharon, not Boomer.

713

Well, I mean whether or

714

it was attempted at the very least.

715

And it's a show show on sci-fi.

716

So whether or not it was a full,

like, I'm not here to quantify that.

717

Beth: Right.

718

But either way, this very traumatic

thing happened at the hands.

719

Of people she had trusted,

essentially a ship that she had

720

seen as safe up until this point.

721

Yes, she did shoot someone like, but so

she's just kind of like, there's a bit

722

of a trauma Jenga situation happening?

723

I think so.

724

Like, and then the tower topples

when they take her baby and then

725

she's just like, the dam has burst,

I think is maybe what's happening

726

Xhafer: I think if anything, it's

a comment that I've just been very

727

fortunate to not ever been in a situation

where anger overtakes my ability to

728

be rational for my own self-interest.

729

That's probably more commentary

on the life that I've lived than

730

anything else, and, and, and,

and, the lack of hardships in it.

731

Beth: you're, you are a very chill human

732

Xhafer: I am, I mean.

733

It's something that I've worked at.

734

I was not always a very chill human.

735

I was a very hotheaded

teenager for a long time, so

736

Beth: Hmm.

737

Laura: but it, it, to your point, Jair, it

is easier to be a chill human when you're

738

like, amygdala is not aroused all the time

739

by your surroundings.

740

Xhafer: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

741

Like having a a solidified

brain helps a ton

742

Laura: yeah.

743

Xhafer: compared to when

I was an actual child.

744

Yeah.

745

So I guess, um, anyways

Karen, Sam are getting drunk.

746

Yeah.

747

Oh, oh god.

748

Fuck this scene.

749

Beth: this is a lot.

750

This is a

751

Xhafer: I, I fucking hated this.

752

Lee tries to come over and be

like, Hey, glad you made it home.

753

Let's meet Sam.

754

Right.

755

And

756

Laura: Yeah.

757

Xhafer: Kara is a bad friend here.

758

Laura: Very, very bad friend.

759

Yep.

760

Beth: She's

761

Laura: person you've been excited

to introduce to everybody, you just

762

want to show off in front of Lee

763

now and make him feel bad

about himself, I guess.

764

Xhafer: Yeah.

765

Beth: Yeah, that was, it

was very uncomfortable.

766

Xhafer: If it had just been like

drunk fooling around, that probably

767

would've been one thing, but the

fact that she's just all like, he's

768

mine and you're not still fracking.

769

D are you?

770

Like

771

Laura: That was especially uncalled

772

Xhafer: It's real weird.

773

It's real rough.

774

It's real tinged with a level

of jealousy that makes you

775

question everyone's feelings.

776

Actually in the room is bad,

777

Laura: Deanna Troy paging Deanna Troy.

778

Xhafer: right?

779

Light the Troy signal.

780

Beth: bump it in calf tan.

781

Let's go like.

782

And a Afghan, fuck it.

783

We got Afghan for you.

784

You want a cozy blanket?

785

No problem.

786

Xhafer: What follows?

787

This is For My Money.

788

The best scene in Battlestar Galactica.

789

Laura: it is

790

Xhafer: Full stop.

791

I fucking love this scene.

792

They've got priest cavel, or

they've got not priest cavel.

793

They've got uh, ship Cavel

in the cell priest cave's.

794

Like, I'm not a silent, what are you?

795

And then he gets in the brick

and he is like, oh, well then,

796

and just walks into the brick.

797

It's so

798

good.

799

Dean Stockwell, just,

800

chewing the scenery, just having a blast.

801

Beth: quality.

802

Laura: it's up there with that, that

gif that we keep using in the discord of

803

like Ty and Adama having a conversation

and then looking directly at the camera.

804

I mean, I, I love that

gif every time I see it.

805

Just hit me with it, y'all.

806

It's so good.

807

And uh, this scene is also very delicious.

808

Xhafer: I, this scene has been

animated gift in Spoiler Town

809

before, so I'm sure it, this is its

opportunity to move into current with

810

Pod Chat, whoever gets to it first.

811

Congratulations.

812

Beth: Yeah.

813

Flood us with that dopamine.

814

Xhafer: but more than just that because

I mean, that's fun, but also this

815

scene with Dean Stockwell talking to

our, you know, Rosalyn Adama and Ty.

816

Also just makes up so much of

the crux of the cylon mythos.

817

Like there is more world building for

the Cylons in this three minutes than we

818

got in the episode set on Caprica during

the occupation a couple episodes ago.

819

Laura: Sure.

820

Yeah.

821

Beth: Yeah.

822

Xhafer: So I'm here for all this.

823

I love the shit out of this.

824

Caval is talking about the changes

in silent society that Caprica six

825

and Boomer have made, which we saw

the start of a couple episodes ago.

826

They are departing the colonies

and they're not going to hunt

827

down the fleet any longer.

828

Laura: Yeah, I was very suspicious.

829

Like he says, yeah, we've got two

leaders who convinced us we're wrong, our

830

whole hive mind or whatever, and silos

are gonna go pursue our own destiny.

831

That's so vague.

832

Xhafer: it, it's super

833

Laura: anything.

834

Xhafer: and Rosaly and Adama are super

combative about it, which I mean,

835

they have every right to be suspicious

'cause cylon bullshit, but also like

836

you're not doing a lot to inspire that

humanity's gonna leave you guys alone.

837

Laura: Yeah,

838

Xhafer: So

839

that's, that's a big part of it.

840

Laura: I mean, there's not

much humanity left, so.

841

I mean,

842

Xhafer: Yeah.

843

Laura: reasonably, maybe we

come back in a few centuries

844

Xhafer: Yeah.

845

But I

846

Laura: like

847

Beth: It's

848

Xhafer: that's a normal

849

scale of time for

850

Beth: up anymore because

there's only like 10 of you.

851

So now you have to, you have to

replace your population so we can

852

come back and blow you up more.

853

Laura: mm-hmm.

854

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

855

Laura: Yeah.

856

Nothing about this is

gonna be that simple.

857

Xhafer: Yeah.

858

Rosalyn orders the Cavel Airlock

because of course she does.

859

Laura: Yeah, I was not

totally clear on this.

860

And also I wanna throw in that the

brothers Cylons don't believe ins God.

861

Xhafer: Yeah.

862

Laura: They mentioned that.

863

Xhafer: Yeah.

864

Caval is an atheist, so I

didn't bring it up last episode.

865

I talked about it in Spoiler Town.

866

But when Caval is talking to Tyrell,

he refers to the God lords of cobal as

867

your Gods never his gods or the gods.

868

It's always your gods, is how he is.

869

How he phrases that.

870

So that was your like.

871

Actual little trick to

know that he was a cylon.

872

But I wanted to, I wanted this

scene to be in full rather than just

873

confirm your suspicions last episode.

874

Laura: Yeah.

875

I, I, love how I missed the

reference to the Gods Your Gods

876

completely and seized upon the joke.

877

Xhafer: yeah, you were correct.

878

Either way.

879

Um, Cavel is, and we'll, we will

learn more about this as we encounter

880

the character more over time.

881

Cavel is an atheist.

882

Laura: Interesting.

883

Xhafer: Yeah.

884

His model just doesn't

believe in any of the gods

885

Beth: I

886

do love Rosalyn's Badass Line here though,

when she like goes to throw them out

887

of an airlock, you know, they're like,

oh, we don't believe in Sightline, God.

888

And she's just like, well, let's find out

889

Laura: Yeah.

890

Beth: like slow, heavy

metal music plays like

891

Laura: Yeah,

892

yeah.

893

No, I, I was unclear.

894

Did they actually get airlock?

895

Xhafer: I mean, there's no

reason to think that they don't.

896

Laura: Yeah.

897

I mean, Adama doesn't take orders from

Rosalyn necessarily on this thing.

898

He would need to agree.

899

Xhafer: he's got a silent prisoner.

900

He might not airlock both of 'em.

901

Given how the rest of this episode

goes, I would say it's inconsequential

902

Laura: Yeah, well, I, I did wonder

'cause I thought like if they didn't

903

get airlock, 'cause we don't see it,

and it sort of almost was like, played

904

as, oh, there goes Roslyn again.

905

Xhafer: ear locking them.

906

silence.

907

Laura: But not actually, nobody actually

like, made a move that we saw to, to do

908

it.

909

I was like, did they just take

the caves down to New Caprica?

910

And for that matter,

we're the hell's Sharon?

911

Xhafer: Well, Sharon's

back in her silent cell.

912

Laura: Well, but I mean, when

we get to new Caprica, but

913

Xhafer: oh.

914

oh.

915

You'll find out.

916

Laura: Okay.

917

Beth: oh.

918

Xhafer: You, you, that's you won't

find out for a couple weeks because

919

we're gonna watch the episodes.

920

And I don't think, I don't remember

who is and isn't in the episodes.

921

I know the episodes don't have a lot

of the normal main cast characters that

922

they were explicitly shot with extras who

could do Line good or a couple of the more

923

premier actors that they happened to have,

that like weren't in episodes really.

924

So, I mean, we'll, we'll get

to that when we get to it.

925

Um, I think uh, Doral is the main,

like silo we see in those compared to

926

like a six or a Sharon or something.

927

Laura: yeah, yeah.

928

I was thinking about it in the last

couple days and I was like, man, it

929

seems like a bad idea to take any

silent down there, even Sharon, but,

930

Xhafer: Yeah.

931

Yeah.

932

Beth: though maybe especially Sharon.

933

Laura: or maybe especially Sharon.

934

Yeah.

935

Don't know.

936

But we'll put a pin in

it 'cause it's election

937

Xhafer: it's election day.

938

I can

939

already tell this is gonna be

a long ass episode from us.

940

Laura: That's fine.

941

Beth: It's 'Cause there's hella

942

Xhafer: there's hella, and last

episode was lots of buildup and

943

this episode is hella so, election

day we get a couple snapshots here.

944

The military and civilians

are handling the logistics.

945

We do get some vote counts.

946

BALTAR 21,569, Roslyn 17,754.

947

That's on the board or

that's on the conversation.

948

If we pause it on Roslyn's board,

we can see the votes needed to win

949

23,522, which means the electorate is

presumably assuming it's a 50 50 vote,

950

which is what it sounds like based off

of everything that's going on, 47,043.

951

Now we haven't had anyone die here,

and we've actually gained people

952

because the capric survivors.

953

So assuming with that and our about

20 capric survivors, give or take,

954

and then the, our count from 49,550

from early in the episode, our hold

955

population, 49,570, our electorate 47,043.

956

The difference is presumably children,

957

Laura: Well, it could be children

and the felons on the astral queen.

958

Right?

959

Do they have the right

to vote in this universe?

960

We don't know.

961

Xhafer: well, the difference is 2,527,

it would make more sense for that to

962

be the amount of felons who aren't

allowed to vote, and all of the children

963

can vote than it would for no, than

it would for no children to vote.

964

So in a normal population.

965

Let me, let me start with

the actual statistic here.

966

Well, this is, this is 5.1%

967

of the population is children here, right?

968

In in, in the Flotilla.

969

Yeah.

970

The 2000.

971

If that 2,527 is children,

what is a normal population's

972

percentage of people under 18?

973

Laura: it's gotta be more than that.

974

Xhafer: Shoot from the hip?

975

What are you thinking?

976

Throw out a guess.

977

Laura: At least a quarter.

978

Xhafer: Yeah.

979

Laura: That's my guess.

980

Beth, do you have one?

981

I'm not good at estimates.

982

Beth: I'm not either and

I'm also not good at math.

983

We know this is car me

from the bear level.

984

Bad at math over here.

985

Xhafer: It's true.

986

I call her Carmi all the

time when she messes up math.

987

Beth: it is.

988

Yes.

989

Laura: I mean, car's pretty cute.

990

Beth: see,

991

Xhafer: Yeah.

992

Beth: you.

993

Laura: I'm just saying.

994

Beth: Um, so is this what

guesting on all podcasts is?

995

Like I just get like flirted

with by all the hosts.

996

'cause that's pretty great.

997

Laura: I'm, I'm pretty

sure that's podcasts.

998

Yeah.

999

That checks out.

00:42:58,381 --> 00:42:58,621

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:42:58,621 --> 00:42:59,476

That feels like it.

00:43:00,286 --> 00:43:06,496

Beth: But okay, so like, we're thinking,

you know, so there's been trauma,

00:43:07,426 --> 00:43:10,816

trauma tends not to lead to sexy times.

00:43:11,461 --> 00:43:13,921

Xhafer: well, I mean, that'd

be, that'd be baby babies.

00:43:14,251 --> 00:43:15,661

And it's only been it,

00:43:16,006 --> 00:43:16,426

Beth: yeah.

00:43:16,531 --> 00:43:17,491

Xhafer: at 10

00:43:17,656 --> 00:43:18,256

Beth: age?

00:43:18,616 --> 00:43:20,266

Okay, so what is the age range?

00:43:20,356 --> 00:43:21,016

I'm like

00:43:21,316 --> 00:43:22,486

estimating here.

00:43:23,161 --> 00:43:25,051

Xhafer: general population, zero to 18,

00:43:26,581 --> 00:43:27,421

zero to 17.

00:43:28,498 --> 00:43:28,978

Beth: let's see.

00:43:28,978 --> 00:43:30,448

And they fled.

00:43:30,988 --> 00:43:32,713

Xhafer: It's been 10

months since the attacks.

00:43:32,968 --> 00:43:38,458

Beth: It's been 10 months, so probably

a few people were pregnant when

00:43:38,503 --> 00:43:39,463

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:43:39,703 --> 00:43:39,763

Yeah.

00:43:39,763 --> 00:43:40,873

Some pregnant survivors.

00:43:40,873 --> 00:43:42,433

Yeah, some baby babies.

00:43:42,718 --> 00:43:44,068

Beth: some baby babies.

00:43:44,975 --> 00:43:48,365

probably not like a huge child population,

00:43:48,455 --> 00:43:50,615

Xhafer: Yeah, well, it's 5.1

00:43:50,795 --> 00:43:53,465

is the presumed child

population of the fleet.

00:43:54,065 --> 00:43:57,395

A normal population is 22%.

00:43:58,580 --> 00:44:00,605

Laura: Hey, I wasn't too far

00:44:00,695 --> 00:44:01,955

Beth: you were, you were on

00:44:02,105 --> 00:44:06,725

Xhafer: I mean, if most people live to

like 80 something under 20, that's, you

00:44:06,725 --> 00:44:09,215

know, statistically that would make sense.

00:44:09,365 --> 00:44:12,515

That's of course not how

ages or populations work.

00:44:12,515 --> 00:44:15,395

There should be much more young

people than old people because

00:44:15,395 --> 00:44:16,985

not everyone makes it to be old.

00:44:17,315 --> 00:44:22,235

And also there are more people

making babies than there are babies.

00:44:22,685 --> 00:44:24,905

So that age, that whole factors in.

00:44:25,085 --> 00:44:27,030

But you know, 22% sure,

00:44:27,065 --> 00:44:27,335

Beth: okay.

00:44:28,415 --> 00:44:31,535

Probably that's not gonna be

true in a few years though,

00:44:31,925 --> 00:44:34,415

Xhafer: well, this is catastrophic.

00:44:35,225 --> 00:44:40,955

Like to to be, this is terrible

fucking news for the fleet.

00:44:41,405 --> 00:44:43,025

Like, besides just not having.

00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,840

Like young, young children

like babies, this means that

00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,760

there's 2,500 at most teenagers.

00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:58,520

So as you start to age up, there's

going to be an entire, like assuming

00:44:58,580 --> 00:45:02,780

everyone stops and starts having

babies tomorrow on new Caprica, right?

00:45:03,470 --> 00:45:06,050

They land, everyone

starts popping out babies.

00:45:06,050 --> 00:45:12,530

Just immediately, you're still

going to have this 18 year gap with

00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,100

almost no workers, no population.

00:45:16,430 --> 00:45:21,890

Your ab, your ability to have babies

is going to drop significantly for

00:45:21,890 --> 00:45:25,640

a generation because of this, which

is gonna be a ripple effect felt

00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:30,050

for hundreds of years as people

have at kids at different ages.

00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:37,070

Like the long term economic

effects of this are mind boggling.

00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:43,190

Laura: And this is why it is absolutely

bonkers to me that Rosalyn has not

00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:47,300

done the math and does not know these

statistics like the back of her hand

00:45:47,660 --> 00:45:51,410

in that one episode where she goes

to Baltar and says, what's the math

00:45:52,220 --> 00:45:54,770

like, you should, this should

already have been done.

00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:57,530

Did, period.

00:45:57,605 --> 00:45:58,745

Xhafer: it's so bad,

00:45:59,255 --> 00:46:04,205

and this is assuming like the average age

of a survivor is like 20 to 40 hopefully,

00:46:05,105 --> 00:46:10,415

and not 40 to 60, because those

people are aging out of having kids.

00:46:10,535 --> 00:46:16,385

So the population, given this age

discrepancy specifically, might already

00:46:16,385 --> 00:46:18,785

not be viable to survive for humanity.

00:46:19,693 --> 00:46:22,993

Laura: The head cannon, I'm,

I'm having to get there.

00:46:23,023 --> 00:46:26,893

And it's not a lot of head cannon, it's

just that like, you know, okay, say maybe

00:46:26,893 --> 00:46:35,603

our society did have 22% children on all

our, you know, preexisting before massacre

00:46:35,813 --> 00:46:37,793

planets and colonies and ships and stuff.

00:46:38,093 --> 00:46:44,333

But like, what are the odds that that

proportion of children would be traveling?

00:46:44,333 --> 00:46:48,023

'cause that's what the fleet is, it was

ships that happened to be traveling.

00:46:48,428 --> 00:46:48,878

Xhafer: oh, yeah.

00:46:48,878 --> 00:46:51,878

I mean, it'd be kids on vacation,

00:46:52,343 --> 00:46:52,853

Laura: yeah,

00:46:53,633 --> 00:46:53,963

yeah.

00:46:53,963 --> 00:46:55,343

Maybe you've got a field trip.

00:46:55,553 --> 00:46:55,853

Yeah.

00:46:56,438 --> 00:46:57,398

Xhafer: Yeah, exactly.

00:46:58,178 --> 00:46:58,388

Yeah.

00:46:58,493 --> 00:46:58,673

Beth: the,

00:46:58,673 --> 00:47:03,773

earth blowed up and all I got was

the stupid t-shirt sort of situation.

00:47:03,788 --> 00:47:09,461

Xhafer: number of like cross

planetary commuters that are children.

00:47:10,421 --> 00:47:12,731

I can only, I, I mean, it's probably

like if you were to pull the

00:47:12,731 --> 00:47:17,021

stats from air traffic on a school

day, it'd probably be similar.

00:47:18,161 --> 00:47:19,691

Laura: That's a very good point.

00:47:19,961 --> 00:47:20,381

Yeah.

00:47:21,064 --> 00:47:24,844

So I can, I can get there and

head cannon and also, yeah.

00:47:25,174 --> 00:47:25,714

Bleak.

00:47:26,404 --> 00:47:27,094

Xhafer: yeah, it's bad.

00:47:27,884 --> 00:47:33,744

So, uh, Tory makes a clandestine phone

call here to Ty Dee grabs a ballot

00:47:33,744 --> 00:47:37,584

box and route and rero it before

returning with his last ballot box.

00:47:38,934 --> 00:47:42,564

And this is like all

starting to go down here.

00:47:43,464 --> 00:47:45,714

The election is won by Rosalyn.

00:47:46,614 --> 00:47:49,794

We cut over to Zurich and

he's just all like, Nope.

00:47:49,914 --> 00:47:50,454

Rigged.

00:47:50,604 --> 00:47:51,474

Fucking know it.

00:47:52,374 --> 00:47:54,984

And Guy is all like,

nah, that ain't Rosalyn

00:47:56,009 --> 00:47:56,229

Laura: Man,

00:47:58,349 --> 00:47:58,629

I mean,

00:47:59,044 --> 00:47:59,854

Xhafer: broken clock.

00:48:00,664 --> 00:48:01,984

Even Mitch McConnell's been right.

00:48:03,064 --> 00:48:04,744

It's happened historically speaking.

00:48:05,169 --> 00:48:05,459

Laura: yeah.

00:48:06,754 --> 00:48:07,504

Xhafer: Not often,

00:48:07,669 --> 00:48:11,149

Beth: don't have to like

mention it ever though.

00:48:11,749 --> 00:48:14,239

We don't have to validate

that man on any level.

00:48:14,914 --> 00:48:17,854

Xhafer: I just like to bring it up

specifically when Gaas is right about

00:48:17,854 --> 00:48:18,394

something.

00:48:18,409 --> 00:48:19,279

Beth: no, no, no.

00:48:19,279 --> 00:48:19,339

no.

00:48:19,714 --> 00:48:20,164

Laura: Yeah.

00:48:20,614 --> 00:48:22,264

I mean, he, he is right in that.

00:48:22,264 --> 00:48:22,594

Yeah.

00:48:22,594 --> 00:48:25,954

Rosalyn never, she has no

idea this is happening.

00:48:25,954 --> 00:48:28,894

It's just happening in her

name and to benefit her, but,

00:48:29,074 --> 00:48:29,344

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:48:30,934 --> 00:48:33,844

Beth: She knows some weirdness

is afoot at the Circle K.

00:48:33,844 --> 00:48:36,394

She just doesn't know the what kind of

00:48:36,739 --> 00:48:39,049

Laura: And, and is

actively looking the other

00:48:39,049 --> 00:48:39,649

way.

00:48:40,009 --> 00:48:43,579

It's like, oh, I don't see

whatever's going on behind me.

00:48:43,579 --> 00:48:46,939

'cause that would be inconvenient for me.

00:48:47,524 --> 00:48:49,084

Beth: Yeah, exactly.

00:48:49,204 --> 00:48:53,059

She's got her headphones on while

she's, you know, surfing the web, like

00:48:53,564 --> 00:48:53,984

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:48:55,124 --> 00:48:55,724

Laura: It did.

00:48:55,784 --> 00:48:56,864

It doesn't last though.

00:48:57,494 --> 00:48:59,174

The, like, relief of.

00:48:59,924 --> 00:49:03,224

Thank God we didn't put

a bone head in charge.

00:49:03,614 --> 00:49:04,004

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:49:05,264 --> 00:49:09,434

How terrible things would

be if we had done that.

00:49:12,374 --> 00:49:13,274

Laura: Yep.

00:49:13,354 --> 00:49:17,284

GATA has a, a little typo problem.

00:49:18,359 --> 00:49:18,579

Xhafer: Yep.

00:49:19,234 --> 00:49:19,654

Beth: That's

00:49:19,744 --> 00:49:24,214

Laura: Zephyr got ballots that had

Gaia Baltar's name spelled wrong,

00:49:24,264 --> 00:49:31,674

and I really hope that it was spelled

Gaas Bitch Tar, like your name fer.

00:49:34,595 --> 00:49:40,685

We put our fun names in our squad cast

chat again and today Jafar Gais Bitch Tar.

00:49:40,935 --> 00:49:41,385

Xhafer: it's true.

00:49:42,035 --> 00:49:47,395

Laura: But these ballots are all correct

and they can't be, that can't be true.

00:49:48,095 --> 00:49:48,515

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:49:49,210 --> 00:49:54,850

Laura: Ty tries to tell gata that

I've got this, you can let it go.

00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,340

I'm going to take care of this.

00:49:57,455 --> 00:49:57,875

Beth: Mm-hmm.

00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,998

Laura: And uh, gada goes

and blows the whistle.

00:50:02,658 --> 00:50:09,948

And look, I know that I accuse every

one of being a silent, it's my thing.

00:50:10,668 --> 00:50:15,438

But there was an interesting

look on Gita's face as he

00:50:15,438 --> 00:50:17,088

goes and picks up the phone.

00:50:17,178 --> 00:50:20,748

That to me wasn't just like,

I'm being a little boy scout

00:50:21,648 --> 00:50:23,058

and I'm doing the right thing.

00:50:23,178 --> 00:50:23,418

It

00:50:23,478 --> 00:50:23,958

Beth: It was

00:50:24,888 --> 00:50:25,788

Laura: sinister.

00:50:25,788 --> 00:50:27,048

It was Mr.

00:50:27,048 --> 00:50:27,828

Burns.

00:50:28,633 --> 00:50:28,833

Beth: Accident.

00:50:29,223 --> 00:50:29,713

Exactly.

00:50:29,928 --> 00:50:32,178

Like that's exactly what

happened in my, yeah.

00:50:32,208 --> 00:50:36,588

'cause like I haven't seen up to

this point in Battlestar Galactica.

00:50:36,588 --> 00:50:41,328

So I'm in the Laura boat and I like

the everyone's asylum line strategy.

00:50:41,763 --> 00:50:43,953

Laura: Everyone's a silent

until proven innocent.

00:50:44,353 --> 00:50:44,573

Beth: Yo.

00:50:45,138 --> 00:50:51,198

Like we already know there are lot

more of them than there are of people.

00:50:51,198 --> 00:50:52,128

So like

00:50:53,592 --> 00:50:57,997

mathematically speaking,

probably the right way to go.

00:50:59,667 --> 00:51:03,717

Laura: I just did not

feel good about this.

00:51:03,717 --> 00:51:07,767

And I don't know, maybe it's just

gay's got some kind of beef with Ty.

00:51:07,767 --> 00:51:11,487

We all know that Ty was

showing his ass a lot, right?

00:51:12,237 --> 00:51:14,685

Uh, Being a drunk all over the place.

00:51:14,715 --> 00:51:15,645

It's been a minute.

00:51:15,645 --> 00:51:18,195

He hasn't been too bad

lately, as far as we

00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:18,600

Beth: Yeah.

00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:22,500

Now that Adam's back in

charge and he's, yeah.

00:51:23,025 --> 00:51:26,805

Laura: But maybe he like so

pissed off Gada that this is

00:51:26,805 --> 00:51:28,485

a look of like fucking finely.

00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:34,440

Beth: or maybe Gada is like one

of those like early 20 something

00:51:34,650 --> 00:51:42,898

Manosphere guys who's like really

buying into the guy Ballar experience.

00:51:44,653 --> 00:51:47,083

Laura: He's really huffing

guy, Baltar's farts.

00:51:47,668 --> 00:51:48,178

Beth: Yeah.

00:51:48,178 --> 00:51:50,308

He's really into that whole, you know.

00:51:50,563 --> 00:51:54,403

Laura: I don't get that vibe from

Gada, but I don't know, he winds up

00:51:54,433 --> 00:51:55,873

in an interesting position here in a

00:51:55,873 --> 00:51:56,143

bit.

00:51:56,143 --> 00:51:56,743

So

00:51:56,788 --> 00:51:58,378

Beth: That's why I'm thinking,

00:51:58,964 --> 00:52:02,924

Laura: yeah, but I'd never gotten

that vibe of, I guess he did be

00:52:02,924 --> 00:52:06,314

like, Hey, we could use Gaia's

computer once or something, and

00:52:06,899 --> 00:52:08,879

Beth: yeah, I guess you right.

00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:09,959

I don't know.

00:52:10,244 --> 00:52:10,634

Laura: Hmm.

00:52:10,979 --> 00:52:13,619

Xhafer: you'll see more with Gada soon.

00:52:14,159 --> 00:52:17,609

He's got a seemingly prominent

job after the time jump.

00:52:17,609 --> 00:52:19,019

It looked like there didn't it,

00:52:19,619 --> 00:52:20,609

Beth: It really did.

00:52:21,434 --> 00:52:23,414

Laura: but we gotta get there somehow.

00:52:23,474 --> 00:52:24,164

Um,

00:52:24,704 --> 00:52:25,574

so We go

00:52:25,649 --> 00:52:26,459

Beth: gotta talk about it.

00:52:26,459 --> 00:52:27,234

I'm so excited.

00:52:27,504 --> 00:52:34,109

Laura: Okay, so we go to Adama,

breaking the news to Rosalyn.

00:52:35,669 --> 00:52:35,819

Xhafer: Yep.

00:52:36,959 --> 00:52:40,199

She wants to, you know,

she admits the admiral.

00:52:40,199 --> 00:52:43,829

She knew all along and she didn't

have the exact details, but she

00:52:43,829 --> 00:52:45,239

knew Tori was up to something.

00:52:46,144 --> 00:52:46,564

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:52:47,069 --> 00:52:50,699

Xhafer: And that she recalls when

she was dying, Baltar and Caprica

00:52:50,699 --> 00:52:54,869

six hanging out and he's just like,

wait to bury the lead on that.

00:52:54,869 --> 00:52:55,349

Fuck.

00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:59,759

How long have you known s fucking

He was a slon conspirator.

00:53:00,074 --> 00:53:00,364

Beth: Yeah.

00:53:00,779 --> 00:53:01,379

Xhafer: Fuck.

00:53:01,529 --> 00:53:03,929

You should have told me

that the minute you knew.

00:53:04,379 --> 00:53:05,279

That's important.

00:53:05,279 --> 00:53:08,729

Shit, dude has nukes with an S.

00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:10,379

Beth: Yeah.

00:53:10,514 --> 00:53:11,624

Laura: I can see holding.

00:53:11,624 --> 00:53:14,564

I can see sitting on that one

though, because it's like you go to

00:53:14,564 --> 00:53:19,904

Adama and you say, well, you know,

during my delusions as I was dying,

00:53:19,934 --> 00:53:23,024

I remembered this thing about Gaas.

00:53:23,024 --> 00:53:23,969

And it's like, hmm.

00:53:25,319 --> 00:53:25,889

Beth: Yeah.

00:53:26,189 --> 00:53:28,289

Xhafer: You might get

his nuke back though,

00:53:28,859 --> 00:53:29,039

Beth: Yeah,

00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:29,609

but like

00:53:29,774 --> 00:53:30,554

Laura: yeah.

00:53:30,614 --> 00:53:31,334

Good point.

00:53:32,069 --> 00:53:38,369

Beth: I mean, but she's probably sitting

there going, is Gaas a a asylum fucker

00:53:38,429 --> 00:53:41,039

or were my neurons all firing at once?

00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:43,409

'cause I was dying, you know, like,

00:53:44,159 --> 00:53:45,059

so she had to sort

00:53:45,074 --> 00:53:46,514

Laura: You could even doubt yourself.

00:53:46,544 --> 00:53:47,624

Yeah, yeah.

00:53:48,090 --> 00:53:53,550

I wonder if she did doubt herself,

Beth, until she says the thing to

00:53:53,550 --> 00:53:55,530

Gaas and sees his response, and

00:53:55,865 --> 00:53:55,945

Xhafer: Hmm.

00:53:56,580 --> 00:53:57,540

Laura: now she knows.

00:53:57,765 --> 00:53:58,485

Beth: Exactly.

00:53:59,280 --> 00:53:59,490

I

00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:00,300

Laura: And it's too late.