How do YOU approach knowing your worth and establishing boundaries in professional settings?
The microphone is in the hands of the Brady Ware's Katie Humphries, who sits down with Jessica Kenimer, Program Manager at The Women's Small Business Accelerator, for a spirited conversation about the incredible journey of our beloved host, Betty Collins.
They both talk about tales of mentorship, career evolution, and family ties as Jessica, who knows Betty both professionally and personally as her niece, shares unique insights into Betty's impactful career and the legacy she is building.
They reflect on past episodes, discuss the themes of change and growth across different life stages, and explore the art of scaling professionally.
Jessica also gives us a sneak peek into the highly anticipated Columbus Women's Leadership Conference, a testament to Betty's enduring influence and commitment to fostering empowering communities.
Whether you're a budding professional or a seasoned leader, this episode promises a wealth of inspiration and practical wisdom to fuel your journey.
Inspiring Takeaways
Inspiring Moments
00:00 Reflecting on Betty Collins' Inspiration
05:55 "Admirable Resilience Amid Challenges"
09:08 Career Transition and Self-Reflection
10:24 Reflecting on Unexpected Life Directions
13:52 Unlocking Potential Through Conversation
19:23 Betty's Career Reflections
20:50 Balancing Priorities Across Life Stages
25:50 Empowering Women's Conference Experience
27:04 "Betty's Uplifting Conference Legacy"
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Welcome to another episode of Inspiring Women, the podcast that celebrates the stories of extraordinary women from all walks of life. I am your host, Betty Collins. Join us for an inspiring conversation that will leave you ready to take on the world.
Katie Humphries [:Hi, and welcome back to the Inspiring Women podcast with Betty Collins. But today, you have me, Katie Humphries, also an inspiring woman. And I'm joined today by Jessica Kenimer. She is the events coordinator at the WSBA. She's also a mental health therapist, and she's Betty Collins' niece. So today, we are going to talk about Betty and how she inspires us and about her career journey. So if you haven't listened to the previous episode about Betty's career, you should go listen to that first and then come listen to us reflect on it. Hi, Jessica.
Katie Humphries [:Thanks for joining me today.
Jessica Kenimer [:Thanks for having me, Katie.
Katie Humphries [:So today, we're gonna talk about Betty. Great. She's my mentor at work. She's your aunt Yep. As well as you work with her in a professional setting. So tell us about your relationship with Betty Collins.
Jessica Kenimer [:Oh, so, namesake. My middle name is her middle name. So there's that part. We go with that.
Katie Humphries [:Personal branding.
Jessica Kenimer [:Right? Yeah. Yeah. So Betty to me has just always been aunt, and that has come with its own, personal brand of Betty. Right? The Betty Collins.
Katie Humphries [:The f Betty Collins. Yes. Yes.
Jessica Kenimer [:Yeah. So she she has always been that. She's always been getting into trouble and taking us along with her. So pretty sure my, my first bikini as
Katie Humphries [:a Oh, wow.
Jessica Kenimer [:Was her fault. Earrings, her faults. Like, everything.
Katie Humphries [:Yeah. She gave you your first can of Pepsi. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. So she's
Jessica Kenimer [:the cool aunt. Very much. Yeah.
Katie Humphries [:So I know you because we work on the women's leadership conference together. Yes. So you work through the WSBA. I work through BradyWare, and we're kind of planning that together. When did you start working on the conference?
Jessica Kenimer [:So I started with the WSBA in April of twenty nineteen. And one of the first things I did with WSBA was attending the conference meetings while they were planning. I really had no idea what was going on. Didn't know what we were getting into, but it was a great time. We had a lot of fun. So really, since the very beginning of working with the WSBA and in 2019, I've come
Katie Humphries [:Love it. What year is it now?
Jessica Kenimer [:Twenty twenty five. Wow. Yeah. So six years
Katie Humphries [:Six years of being the backbone of the conference.
Jessica Kenimer [:Supporting member
Katie Humphries [:and the
Jessica Kenimer [:maybe backbone. But if you ask them to
Katie Humphries [:come beside you, they'll be like, she's the heart and soul of the conference. She's making all the decisions, really. The the lady behind Betty Collins. What do
Jessica Kenimer [:you Yeah. I've I've had some people tell me I'm like the wizard in the of Oz, like, making the things happen behind the
Katie Humphries [:curtain, and then you
Jessica Kenimer [:find out it's just
Katie Humphries [:me. It's just you. Okay. So we both listened to Betty's episode earlier this month. She talked all about her career, about seasons of life was a big theme in that episode. So she talked about how in her twenties, she felt like she was checking all the boxes of, like, what a stereotypical 20 woman should do. Yeah. So, like, getting married, graduating college, getting her job, like, having kids, that kind of stuff.
Katie Humphries [:And then her thirties, she kind of alluded to everything, like, not going so great. Yeah. Like, going through a lot of stuff Yeah. Is what she is saying. I don't know.
Jessica Kenimer [:A little bit rocky, maybe. I don't know if
Katie Humphries [:she was replacing stuff with another word in her head, but she was going through a lot of stuff. Forties were very restorative for her, so she was resetting, resting, kind of, like, understanding what her why in life was. Mhmm. And then she said that her fifties were her best decade, because of all the prep she did in her forties. Now she's in her sixties and kind of reflecting on it all. So you work with her professionally with the conference and you also work with her in a personal way as her niece so I'm curious Did you notice those changes throughout the decades that she was, referencing?
Jessica Kenimer [:So being in the family, we knew the things that were happening, but there was not a personality change. There was not like, Betty has always been Betty.
Katie Humphries [:Yes.
Jessica Kenimer [:And if you know the Betty Collins, you know what I mean. Right? So she's always been a big personality. She's always been, you know, the the take charge, get stuff done however it needs to happen. So, yeah, she's she's kind of to me, like, on the family side, she's always been Betty Collins.
Katie Humphries [:Yes. And that kinda reminds me. She said in her episode, you either live in the ruins or you go through restoration.
Jessica Kenimer [:Mhmm.
Katie Humphries [:And I think that's something that I kind of look up to, and I would love to start living like that where, like, you're going through so much stuff, but, like, when you're at work or when you're with the people you care about, they can't really tell. Yeah. Like, maybe you seem a little bit off, but you're still being you. You're still, like, accomplishing the things you know you wanna accomplish, and I'm sure that goes back to her why. Once you figure that out, you're more determined. For sure. But I thought that was really admirable, and it's very it's very funny that you're like, yeah. She's just still Betty.
Katie Humphries [:Yeah. Absolutely. The Betty Collins. Yeah. When did when did she take on the the before her
Jessica Kenimer [:name? Oh, man.
Katie Humphries [:Was that at birth? Do you know? Probably. Is it on her birth certificate?
Jessica Kenimer [:It could be. I could check.
Katie Humphries [:You know, I don't
Jessica Kenimer [:know when that became a part of the title, because it's always been the personality. So, like, I don't know that there wasn't, like, a major shift other than I think, I started to meet, you know, people in her professional circle that were calling her that. I was like, oh, everybody knows.
Katie Humphries [:You are the big hug. Yeah. Well, sometimes she'll call me the Katie Humphreys and Great. Honestly, it does kind of boost your confidence.
Jessica Kenimer [:It does. Yeah. Yeah.
Katie Humphries [:A couple of months ago, a man I was dating saw that my house was a bit messy. Oh. And he said, you are the Katie Humphreys. You need to pull it together. And I was like, you are so right.
Jessica Kenimer [:Okay.
Katie Humphries [:And it, like, really motivated me. Interesting. Yeah. So maybe if you just put the in front of your name, you'll
Jessica Kenimer [:Yeah.
Katie Humphries [:Get that extra oomph in your day.
Jessica Kenimer [:Okay. See, I might have taken it the other way. Right. I might have said, if I am the Jessica Kinnamer, then deal with my mess.
Katie Humphries [:That's my brand. Right?
Jessica Kenimer [:Like yeah.
Katie Humphries [:I think that's probably
Jessica Kenimer [:what I would have done. At what about it? Yeah. Exactly. You're coming in
Katie Humphries [:my house. Right? This is my house. Right.
Jessica Kenimer [:I think that's probably where I would have gone. I don't know. I think Betty might have gone that way too. Maybe it's genetic.
Katie Humphries [:I don't know. Okay. So another thing that we both kind of notated after listening to this was the idea of scaling. Yeah. So she talked about leveraging the next generation to scale her projects and recognizing you can't do it all and you have to pass things on to other people Yeah. Even if in the back of your mind you're like, oh, I wish I could do it or some people are like, I I would do it better. I think that's kinda how people get in the way of themselves scaling.
Jessica Kenimer [:Sure.
Katie Humphries [:So for you, what's your experience with scaling in your professional journey? And what have you noticed with Betty,
Jessica Kenimer [:with her career? My, journey of scaling has kind of I don't know. I guess maybe it has mimicked Betty's a little bit. So being a mental health therapist for the first part we'll we'll just go with that. Right? The first part of my career, and then, really, the the next part of scaling was actually scaling back. So it it took a little bit of going, is this what's best for me? Is this what's best for everybody around me, or do I need to kind of reimagine what this is going to look like? So interestingly enough, that led me to the WSBA, And I have done things with the WSBA and with the conference that I never in a million years would have dreamed would be in my life. So, it's been interesting to to figure that part out. And but I think, like, the the core of how I approach things is just this is what it is. Let's figure it out now.
Jessica Kenimer [:Yeah. So I don't think that has changed in all the different ways, but definitely, yeah, taking a taking a step back and just going, k. This maybe isn't what I thought my life would you know, what direct what direction it would go in, but here we are. So let's figure this out now. And now I'm looking back at the last six years and and putting that together with my mental health experience and and going, I really have, like, a lot more of a broad experience professionally and personally now where I don't think that any of it could really hold me back.
Katie Humphries [:That's interesting because whenever Betty was talking about scaling, I think, that conversation was mostly about expanding your business and going down a career path in, like, more of a niche way. Mhmm. So that's really interesting because you're talking about scaling back, making your experiences broader, and that's how you're scaling your experiences and gaining new, abilities.
Jessica Kenimer [:Yeah. Yeah. So I I think it'll be interesting maybe in, like, ten years to look back at
Katie Humphries [:this podcast it is.
Jessica Kenimer [:And go, I didn't even know what was coming. Yeah. Because, you know, who knows what's next?
Katie Humphries [:Could you even say that was, turning a never into an opportunity?
Jessica Kenimer [:I've thought about this, and I don't know. Mhmm. Because I don't know that I ever would have even thought about it Yes. To be able to say no. Honestly. That's
Katie Humphries [:exactly what I was thinking about when I was listening to Betty talk about turning your nevers into your opportunities because her example was, I never would wanna be a shareholder. I just wanna do my job. And then she turned that into an she turned that into an opportunity where she became a shareholder and a director and manager of our office here. But I think about it. I'm 26, and I'm like, well, what what's out there?
Jessica Kenimer [:Yeah.
Katie Humphries [:Like, what do I want to do? What do I even feel like I couldn't do?
Jessica Kenimer [:Right. Right. Yeah. I think a lot of times the obstacle is I think we make, we make maybe bigger plans than what we maybe could realistically accomplish short term, but we don't think big enough long term.
Katie Humphries [:Yeah. That's and that's why I'm excited about this season of inspiring women is because it's going to be featuring guests who have scaled to new heights. And I think that's important because a a lot of the podcasts I listen to are about, like, really everyday women. And I love kind of a relatable story For sure. Because that's inspiring to me, but you also need to add in those stories about women doing, like, extraordinary
Jessica Kenimer [:things. Mhmm.
Katie Humphries [:Because that's how you remind yourself to dream big. Yeah. For sure. And I think that's kind of yeah. You get you get lost in the short term and you're like, oh. Right. What what dreams do I have in the in the long term? Yeah. What what do I really wanna do here? What nevers could I turn into an opportunity?
Jessica Kenimer [:I think too when you start to talk about that, just, like, put it out there and talk about it, verbalize it with other people, stuff comes to you. Mhmm. Right? Those opportunities come to you and other people I think kind of like what Betty said, like, other people saw a lot of things in her that she didn't see in herself. And, you know, being able to say, like I think in in some of her examples, no. I would never do this, gave other people also the opportunity to be like, why? You'd be perfect at it, or you can do this. And so other people can kinda speak into your
Katie Humphries [:Oh.
Jessica Kenimer [:Life that way too.
Katie Humphries [:That's really interesting. I didn't even think of that because whenever I picture a conversation about career Mhmm. I'm, like, keeping everything really positive. You know? Like, these are my interests. Yeah. This is what I think I'm good at. This is what I'd be interested in doing. But I think maybe sharing your insecurities Mhmm.
Katie Humphries [:Could be a point where people can, like, defend you Yeah. Against your own self. For sure.
Jessica Kenimer [:Yeah. Also, you know, be ready to hear people sing, especially your close people. Right? Be like, yeah. You're right. Don't do that.
Katie Humphries [:I'll just say. Right? Oh my gosh. No. I do love that. Yeah. Sometimes sometimes you don't believe people after they're like Right. No. You are organized.
Katie Humphries [:Like, my dad was my dad just called me out the other week. I was like, you know, I don't think I'm particularly organized. He laughed in my face, and he said, yeah. Where is your driver's license? I said Okay. That's a really valid question. Yeah. I'm like, okay. But you didn't have to call me out like that.
Katie Humphries [:But that is a way to support in its own way.
Jessica Kenimer [:Right. I know too, I guess, in in my personal life because I can tend to be a little bit competitive. If somebody tells me you can't, I'm probably gonna do it. So I love that. Tones. I
Katie Humphries [:wish I had that too because sometimes people will do that to me. Yeah. Like, the and they'll tell me, I'm being negative with you so that it pushes you. It shuts me down personally. I love affirmation and, like, learning support.
Jessica Kenimer [:Yeah. There's different definitely different ways to do the, the pushing.
Katie Humphries [:Yeah. No. One way that can be, like, a lot
Jessica Kenimer [:more, yeah, positive.
Katie Humphries [:And that's why you need your support For sure. System to know what is going to inspire you. Mhmm. So you are motivated by people kinda, like, telling you you couldn't do something sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes. Yeah. Depends on the person.
Katie Humphries [:In a healthy amount. Yeah. Right. And then I'm more motivated sometimes, again, everyone's different, but by, like, someone really, like, applauding me as I go, like, really believing me. So that kinda goes into how we view our own worth, I think, because that's going to be a reflection of how much we're accomplishing really kinda goes into how we view ourselves and our value, I would say. Yeah. I don't know if that's good to say as, like, you're a therapist. But, No.
Katie Humphries [:Every time I talk to you, I'm like, what is she thinking about me? The way I would also be psychoanalyzing everyone. Do you do that?
Jessica Kenimer [:So, you know, what's interesting about that is that I would have always said no.
Katie Humphries [:To not make people nervous?
Jessica Kenimer [:No. Because I just didn't think I did it. And but then, like, the more I would have conversations like, don't you think this, or did you you know? And realize that people don't have the maybe don't have the same type of internal dialogue that I have. Oh. It's almost like this frame that, like, that is my world view. Like, I do see everything that way. So it's not that I'm, like, going through my diagnostic checklist
Katie Humphries [:Mhmm.
Jessica Kenimer [:At all. But I think it, for sure, frames how I see behavior, how I see patterns, how I see just all kinds of different things. So to me, it's just like, well, this is how I think.
Katie Humphries [:Right. So That makes sense. Yeah. That's exactly how I feel sometimes too if someone does something just, like, so wacky to me. And then you almost start, like, cross examining them, and you're like, I'm not gonna point I'm not gonna strictly say my opinion, but I'm gonna walk you through my thought process and hope that you get there with me. Right. Yes. Yeah.
Jessica Kenimer [:It's tempting for sure sometimes.
Katie Humphries [:Yeah. So how did you how did that make you feel? Oh. Okay. Interesting. Okay. My question usually, actually, is what
Jessica Kenimer [:was the function of that? Oh. What were you hoping to gain there? Yeah.
Katie Humphries [:You
Jessica Kenimer [:did that because you always do it for a reason. Sometimes
Katie Humphries [:if I see something, like, really crazy, I think I wish I could see a brain scan of you making that decision.
Jessica Kenimer [:Right. That would be
Katie Humphries [:What lit up in
Jessica Kenimer [:there? Yeah.
Katie Humphries [:Right?
Jessica Kenimer [:F m r i's.
Katie Humphries [:So one thing I wanted to talk about, was in this podcast, Betty is reflecting on her whole career. Yeah. So she is just north of 60. She, has been a CPA since she is in her twenties. She, is kind of reflecting on things I wish I had done, a lot of things about knowing her value, And she wished she had, like, spent more time with her family. She wished she had said no a little bit more often and protected her boundaries. And as someone a little bit earlier in her career, I'm 26, I think about that, and I wonder how much can I actually kind of protect my boundaries and know my worth Yeah? Before it gets in the way of my success. For sure.
Katie Humphries [:Mean? Especially as Gen z, because I think some people are like, Gen z doesn't have great work ethic. But Yeah. Or they're, like, narcissistic or conceited. Right? But it's like, you're telling me to know my worth. Right. Am I knowing it too much? Is it too inflated? So, I mean, I would love to get Betty's take on this, but also, perhaps from you, miss mental health therapist. What do you think?
Jessica Kenimer [:Oh, yeah. No. I think, it's an interesting balance. Right? It's always it's always gonna be a thing no matter if you're in your twenties, thirties, forties, seventies, you know, whatever it is. It's always gonna be kind of balancing the, what am I willing to give, what am I willing to not give, Where can I say yes? Where can I say no? And that really may change from month to month. Right? It may be, you know, this month, I need to focus on rest. And so when I get that question of are you going to whatever it is, then maybe the answer is no. Mhmm.
Jessica Kenimer [:But maybe another season is I'm really gonna focus on getting that promotion.
Katie Humphries [:Got it.
Jessica Kenimer [:So, you know, and then then when somebody asks you whatever, it may be yes or it may also be no because it doesn't go along with what the focus is. So so I think it's a balance. I don't know that there is always a right or a wrong. I think our guts tell us a lot if we're willing to listen. And I also don't think that there's necessarily a right or a wrong.
Katie Humphries [:Mhmm.
Jessica Kenimer [:Right? Because you're always gonna be learning from whatever the thing was. Maybe I said yes to that, and I realized, like, my gut was saying maybe no, but I didn't listen. And why didn't I listen? So I don't know. I think it's I think it's a a big balancing act.
Katie Humphries [:Yeah. I think that's interesting because people forget about we just said previously that people forget about long term, but maybe people forget that they can also be short term in this too. Mhmm. Because in my mind, I'm like, okay. I'm in my twenties. Like, maybe my goal for this decade is to, like, focus on my work experience and, like, get as many different experiences as I want. So this is my decade of career. But then I can remember that, you know, maybe this month, I'm focusing on rest.
Jessica Kenimer [:Yeah.
Katie Humphries [:And maybe that will still progress my goal. Mhmm. But it's not as upfront as, like, I'm gonna be going to a networking event every week.
Jessica Kenimer [:Right. Yeah.
Katie Humphries [:Whenever I'm already burnt out or something like that.
Jessica Kenimer [:Right. So that's really Yeah. I think sometimes the goals too can be how you wanna feel. Like, when you think about legacy, like, what do I wanna leave behind? I don't know that people usually answer that question with the specifics. Right? Mhmm. They usually answer that question with, I want people to know that I had integrity. I want people to know that I was a hard worker or I was you know, whatever those things are. I think a lot of times we focus our goals on those, like, almost tangible things.
Jessica Kenimer [:Mhmm. When maybe we flip that upside down and say, my goal is to be a person of integrity or to be somebody that inspires. And then my questions can come back throughout the day of in what I'm doing right now, can I look back and say, yeah? I feel integrity because of how I acted today and how I showed up. Or I, you know, inspired somebody today, and that's that's in line with where I wanna be. So even though, you know, the day to day might change a little bit, are those core things really staying the same? And yeah.
Katie Humphries [:That's cool. That's cool to have SMART goals for your actual actions
Jessica Kenimer [:Yeah.
Katie Humphries [:And then, like, a more vague thematic goal for how you More value. That yeah. It's like your North Star. Mhmm. That's amazing. Yeah. But you mentioned legacy and people leaving their legacies. Yeah.
Katie Humphries [:One thing Betty talked about was how when you scale, that's one way to leave your legacy, especially when you pass things to other people. Yeah. So she's kinda working on passing her conference down to the younger generation at Brady where you're certainly running majority of the conference, she will say. And so tell me about what kind of legacy you think she's going to leave with the conference, and what do you think the future of the conference looks like?
Jessica Kenimer [:Yeah. So the conference really started out as kind of this small thing that nobody knew about.
Katie Humphries [:Mhmm.
Jessica Kenimer [:And now you, you know, you're around Columbus and people talk about it.
Katie Humphries [:Yeah.
Jessica Kenimer [:And they know it's coming. We have it at the same time every year, and it's kind of it's become one of those events that you just don't miss.
Katie Humphries [:Mhmm.
Jessica Kenimer [:Right? And so I think there isn't really a way for that to go away. Right? At this point, like, if you've been to the conference at all, you're you're always gonna have that memory. It's always gonna be that was part of that season of my life was going to these conferences, being in, you know, that group of women. And I think one of the main things that I hear every year from attendees is how surprised this is kind of sad, but how surprised they are that the whole day and the whole group is so they motivate each other. They inspire each other. They, are really, like, in it together all day. And it's just such a supportive and, like, uplifting environment. And, you know, we have people that are like, oh, I could've spent the whole weekend doing this and, like, being with this group of women.
Jessica Kenimer [:And, and that's I mean, people feel great by the end of the day. Like, a a lot of people will be like, conference is the whole day? And we're, like, yeah. But, like, everybody loves it.
Katie Humphries [:Mhmm.
Jessica Kenimer [:Because you feel so good when you're there, and you feel so like, it's just It's really fun. And it's uplifting. And and I think that is one of those things that that Betty will leave behind Mhmm. When she's not at the conference or running the conference. That's certainly part of the planning process on our end now, is to say, you know, what is gonna bring the most value? What's going to inspire people the most? How can we bring this experience again so that people can have that and take that with them, I think it's pretty far reaching because you you take that energy with you when you go. So
Katie Humphries [:Mhmm. Yeah. I mean, I only attended the one conference last year, and then we're planning this one for this June. But I think to your point, it's just so community based, and this is the twelfth year. Right? Yes. Yeah. And since the beginning, it's like it has grown. It's not like this big corporation has come in, and they're like, we're gonna spend a billion dollars on advertising and, like, getting a a million people in there.
Katie Humphries [:It's, like, truly a community uplifted event. And I think they're, you know, there's the committee members Right. But then there are also people who just, like, attend and they're, like, such big supporters of the conference. And though they are also important pillars Mhmm. Of what makes it great because it's just, like, it's like a grassroots kind of For sure.
Jessica Kenimer [:Yeah. Yeah. I think I think one of the things that people can always use as a measure of success is whether you have recurrence. Right? So is my client going to renew their contract with me? Is am I gonna go back to that same place? Mhmm. Gym memberships. Right? Like, I'm gonna keep paying it. Right?
Katie Humphries [:But to cancel it, you have to, like There's that. But Give them your firstborn child and, like, sign of blood.
Jessica Kenimer [:Well, I didn't cut that part out, but
Katie Humphries [:no. But I think with
Jessica Kenimer [:the conference, though, what we see a lot is that a lot of our sponsors and and those long time attendees, they have been coming back year after year after year after year. And we even have a couple people that I know of already that are coming back as sponsors this year, and they've already said, like, we've done this in the past. We're we're ready to come back.
Katie Humphries [:Yeah.
Jessica Kenimer [:We miss this. This is where we wanna be.
Katie Humphries [:That's amazing.
Jessica Kenimer [:So to have some of those same people that have been there since day one
Katie Humphries [:Mhmm. Yes.
Jessica Kenimer [:Really cool to see them.
Katie Humphries [:Yes. I'm so excited to be on the second year of planning. Especially because, like, Betty is my mentor here at Brady Ware, so I get to have, like, kind of a deeper conference and just, like, the amazing things that it does. And the fact that it's a fundraiser too is just, like, incredible because it's just, like, every part of it is, like, so, just so positive Yeah. And wholesome. Yeah. I love it. Well, I think that wraps it up.
Katie Humphries [:Jessica, thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me. I loved hearing a little bit more insight into Betty's behind the scenes of her career journey from your personal point of view.
Jessica Kenimer [:Yes. If you need more stories, let me know.
Katie Humphries [:So we'll put those behind the paywall. Yes. Well, thank you guys so much for joining us on inspiring women with Betty Collins slash Katie Humphries today. Please join us at the Columbus Women's Leadership Conference this summer. It's June 18. You do not wanna miss it.
Betty Collins [:Thank you for joining us on Inspiring Women with Betty Collins. We hope today's episode has inspired you to chase your dreams and break through your barriers and embrace your own unique journey.