Radiofrequency microneedling is explored as a powerful, next-level approach to skin rejuvenation combining controlled micro-injury with heat-based energy to stimulate collagen, improve texture, and support deeper structural change. By going beyond traditional microneedling, this treatment can reach multiple layers of the skin, influencing not only surface quality but also firmness and, in some cases, underlying tissue.
Dr. Christelle Oliver-Dussault, Dr. Harpreet Lotay, and Amanda Manholt break down why outcomes can vary depending on the device, treatment depth, and technique, and why understanding these differences is key to setting realistic expectations. From patient selection and contraindications to managing discomfort and downtime, they emphasize the importance of individualized treatment plans and experienced providers. With a clear, educational lens, the conversation highlights how this treatment can deliver meaningful results when approached thoughtfully and safely.
Disclaimer: The Beauty Equation is for informational purposes only and not medical advice. This podcast does not create a doctor–patient relationship. Always consult a qualified healthcare provider before making medical or aesthetic decisions. Information may change as the field evolves.
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About the Hosts:
Dr. Harpreet Lotay is a family physician specializing in aesthetic medicine. She is the founder of Sona MD in Kamloops, BC, and serves as Chief Medical Officer at Bios Wellness Clinics. Known for her artistic approach and comprehensive non-surgical treatments, Dr. Lotay combines medical expertise with an eye for natural results. She is also an educator, a national trainer and holds academic appointments where she shares her knowledge in clinical dermatology and aesthetics. You can get in touch with her on Instagram @hlotaymd
Dr. Christelle Oliver-Dussault is a family physician specializing in aesthetic medicine, women’s health, and psycho-education. She brings a holistic, whole-person perspective to her clinical work, blending science with a deep understanding of the mind-body connection.
She is also the founder of Reclaim The Pink Within, a movement that empowers women to rediscover themselves during life’s most transformative stages. In addition, she is passionate about medical education and mentors the next generation of family physicians through her work with the department of Family Medicine at the University of British Columbia.
You can connect with her on Instagram @drchristellemd
Amanda Manholt is a clinic manager, patient consultant, and co-host of The Beauty Equation Podcast. With over 30 years of experience in beauty, aesthetics, and leadership, she has guided patients and teams alike toward confidence, growth, and empowerment. Known for her ability to connect with people and simplify the often-overwhelming world of aesthetics, Amanda brings a warm, practical, and relatable perspective to every conversation. You can find her on Instagram @crowsfeetandconfidence.
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It's way to really boost collagen and
Speaker:it works through the process of inducing heat shock protein.
Speaker:So we know that when we deliver energy into the skin
Speaker:at particular levels, if we get to temperatures between
Speaker:60 to 70, we can create this
Speaker:biological reaction or response, which includes
Speaker:production of collagen as well as improvement in the
Speaker:extracellular matrix. So that, that, that's kind of the
Speaker:premise behind radio frequency microneedling. And of
Speaker:course, the actual physical microneedling part of it also helps
Speaker:with texture. But these machines do vary in what they do,
Speaker:and that variation will depend on how deep the energy is
Speaker:delivered and how that energy is delivered as far
Speaker:as the depth and the insulation of the
Speaker:needles themselves. Welcome back to the beauty equation. I'm Dr.
Speaker:Christel Oliver Dusseau. And I'm Dr. Harpreet Lotte.
Speaker:And I'm Amanda Manholt. And today we thought we
Speaker:would focus on radiofrequency microneedling. Our episode
Speaker:on microneedling had a lot of positive feedback,
Speaker:so we thought it'd be useful to go over what it is,
Speaker:how it works, and when you might consider to have a treatment with
Speaker:radiofrequency microneedling. So, Amanda, do you want to
Speaker:maybe start us off with how that might come up in the
Speaker:consultation? Okay. Well,
Speaker:radio frequency micro needling is a
Speaker:mouthful, but more than a mouthful, it's a great treatment for
Speaker:people that are looking to improve collagen
Speaker:production in their skin. So I
Speaker:often, you know, people will say, well, what's the difference between microneedling
Speaker:and radio frequency microneedling? And
Speaker:I always say radio frequency microneedling is like it's the big sister,
Speaker:you know, it's the big gun. So you're getting that added benefit
Speaker:of the electrical stimulation on top
Speaker:of the mechanical benefit of microneedling.
Speaker:And I know Dr. Lotte Harpreet, she can talk about sort of
Speaker:the different pathways in which our skin is
Speaker:stimulated to make collagen. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker:So I find that when people
Speaker:come in, they often will have heard of a brand
Speaker:name or have heard, you know, that they
Speaker:often will say, well, I saw this ad, or I heard.
Speaker:And they actually say radio frequency. So I think the
Speaker:marketing for those platforms has
Speaker:been effective, but many times they don't actually know
Speaker:what the modality actually is or what it actually
Speaker:does. They just sort of know it's going to help them look
Speaker:younger. So to Amanda's point and how what she said,
Speaker:that it's way to really boost collagen and
Speaker:it works through the process of inducing heat Shock protein.
Speaker:So we know that when we deliver energy into the skin
Speaker:at particular levels, if we get to temperatures between
Speaker:60 to 70, we can go create
Speaker:this biological reaction or response, which includes
Speaker:production of collagen as well as improvement
Speaker:in the extracellular matrix. So that's kind
Speaker:of the premise behind radio frequency microneedling.
Speaker:And of course, the actual physical microneedling part of it
Speaker:also helps with texture. But these machines do
Speaker:vary in what they do, and that variation will depend on
Speaker:how deep the energy is delivered and how that
Speaker:is delivered, as far as the depth and
Speaker:the insulation of the needles themselves.
Speaker:Yeah, I think that's a really good summary because I'll often break it down to,
Speaker:like, well, how is it different from normal microneedling? And
Speaker:to me, it's like that next level above. So that microneedling
Speaker:that we talked about previously is much more superficial in terms of that
Speaker:collagen induction. And with the radio frequency, that heat,
Speaker:you're bringing in a second pathway to cause some
Speaker:remodeling at the level of the dermis, that deeper skin layer. And what I find
Speaker:quite useful about it is that there are different
Speaker:depths that the needle can go to, which is really important
Speaker:when you're thinking about the skin on the face, because around the eyes, the
Speaker:skin is very, very thin. We'll need a slightly more
Speaker:superficial pattern, whereas other areas of the face, you might need a
Speaker:bit deeper. And then a lot of time, if there's a bit of fat around
Speaker:underneath the jawline, having those needles that go into the
Speaker:fatty layer can induce fat cell apoptosis. So
Speaker:essentially burning off the fat. So it's got multiple
Speaker:applications. And like we discussed the
Speaker:previous time, anything that induces
Speaker:bioregeneration within you takes time, so you're not going to see a result right
Speaker:away. And you generally will need multiple treatments.
Speaker:There is a bit of downtime with this one, but
Speaker:I find it's not too bad. It's quite comparable to the
Speaker:microneedling itself, considering the amount of energy that we do use.
Speaker:And are there anything. Is there anything that you tend to bring up with patients
Speaker:to warn them if they're preparing for this type of treatment? Either Amanda or
Speaker:Heartfreet? Yeah.
Speaker:It again, will depend on the platform that you're using.
Speaker:Right. So if the person is using microneedling
Speaker:radio frequency very superficially, then
Speaker:they may actually have something similar to men's or
Speaker:some superficial epidermal changes where
Speaker:they will have some downtime that can be five or six days
Speaker:or more, and then the precautions are going to be the Same as
Speaker:for any laser. That particular machine, if it's very
Speaker:superficial, will not be a good choice for people with
Speaker:highly melanated skin. And you're not going to want to expose yourself
Speaker:to sun. And it's not good for people
Speaker:who don't have good wound healing. So it really is
Speaker:so dependent on the platform itself. Whereas if you're using
Speaker:a platform like Morpheus 8, where the depths are quite variable
Speaker:and you're treating deeper dermal layers, you're not using this
Speaker:resurfacing tip. The precautions are much less
Speaker:so when I had that particular treatment, I
Speaker:had really no downtime. I went out for dinner
Speaker:that night and nobody was the
Speaker:wiser. Of course, I didn't have any
Speaker:change to my face or my skin. That happens over a number
Speaker:of months, as you mentioned, mentioned. And then you have machines that are sort of
Speaker:in between where you're doing both layers. So again, it's so very,
Speaker:very, very machine dependent. And it's almost a shame to clump
Speaker:them all into one. One thing just based on the
Speaker:modality, because it really does the
Speaker:machine, the platform matters. Yeah. And that kind of
Speaker:like light base treatment. So we have multiple
Speaker:different lasers. It's the same thing with radio frequency microneedling. Yeah, exactly. And that's
Speaker:something in the consultation, depending on where you go.
Speaker:And I know myself, when I had my treatment, I had very
Speaker:little downtime as well. First and third time, just a bit of
Speaker:redness in the skin and almost that sandpapery. But the second time I had some
Speaker:bruising around the eyes, which can happen. And so there was a bit of swelling
Speaker:with that, but it settled down. So I find
Speaker:it can be a very, very useful tool. Pain is a
Speaker:question that often comes up with
Speaker:patients and I have found a lot of variab
Speaker:in terms of pain tolerance. What do you do in the
Speaker:clinic in terms of managing that pain?
Speaker:So I think, for one thing, talking people through what to
Speaker:expect. This is a very new environment for most people,
Speaker:so it's important that they know what's going to happen. So we let people know.
Speaker:Well, first we're going to put numbing on your face and we
Speaker:cover the entire area that we're going to treat. We're going to let that
Speaker:sit for 45 minutes or up to an hour
Speaker:and then remove the numbing. And you'll also have the choice of using
Speaker:something to help with nerves because, you know when you're sitting in that
Speaker:position, when you're having something done that's slightly annoying,
Speaker:verging on uncomfortable
Speaker:not so much the anxiety, but I get a little antsy. It's hard for me
Speaker:to go get my nails done because I can't sit there that long. Right.
Speaker:So people can. Yeah, I got
Speaker:stuff to do. So having something to help people
Speaker:relax, it helps us. There are clinics that will use
Speaker:things like Pronox, which is laughing gas, which will help.
Speaker:Same thing, helps people relax. And then
Speaker:for very, very, very deep
Speaker:treatments. So we use radio frequency for deeper types of treatments
Speaker:to melt fat. We sometimes can use nerve
Speaker:blocks as well. And there are treatments
Speaker:that go deeper. Potenza, those
Speaker:ones will need nerve blocks because they can be
Speaker:uncomfortable. But then it runs the gamut. So again,
Speaker:depending on the platform, there are some radio frequency platforms where
Speaker:they say you don't even need numbing. So very
Speaker:variable. So there are ways to manage discomfort.
Speaker:And I think for people, it's important to have that discussion. If that's top of
Speaker:mind for you. Yeah, I think overall
Speaker:it's a very good treatment in the right patient. Like we've said, with
Speaker:multiple other treatments. And then also this one,
Speaker:you really require a technician that knows what they're doing because
Speaker:there's a bit of science and dexterity behind it and
Speaker:understanding the anatomy. So having a technician
Speaker:who is very comfortable with the machine and very good at assessing faces
Speaker:can make a big difference in terms of treatment outcomes and
Speaker:also reducing risk of adverse events. Is
Speaker:there anyone who shouldn't have this treatment?
Speaker:I think that if you have a history of keloids and poor
Speaker:wound healing, I would steer you away from anything that
Speaker:you're having this type of energy delivered through
Speaker:needles, that's one
Speaker:thing. And then if you are highly melanated, I
Speaker:would be cautious about the type of microneedling
Speaker:you're having done. And again, it becomes even more paramount the
Speaker:experience of the provider. And, um. And then
Speaker:depending on the machine, some machines require a grounding
Speaker:pad because you are creating energy or electricity within the
Speaker:skin. That's the energy modality. It's not laser. So
Speaker:if you have an implanted device, especially near or
Speaker:around, because we can do body treatments with radio frequency too, we
Speaker:would not want to treat you if you have an implanted electrical
Speaker:device and some machines that require grounding, you
Speaker:cannot have it done if you have an implanted device at all. So
Speaker:that. That's the main thing. And of course, we still don't
Speaker:tend to treat people who are pregnant or breastfeeding just because there's some
Speaker:ancillary things that you might do, like medication or topicals
Speaker:that we can't necessarily do when you're pregnant or breastfeeding.
Speaker:So that, that would be another precaution. But
Speaker:and I did want to speak to your point about
Speaker:technician, the importance of technician, because there's
Speaker:been a lot of noise in the market around
Speaker:adverse events, effects with microneedling,
Speaker:specifically Morpheus. It's a very powerful platform
Speaker:and it's available for a very wide
Speaker:variety of people with technical capacity to buy.
Speaker:So that's, that's created some issues. So
Speaker:it's very, very technician dependent. Somebody who, as you said,
Speaker:knows the depth of the layers, knows how the face ages,
Speaker:where you want to keep fat, where you want to treat fat.
Speaker:That's so, so, so key. And so, you know, we're
Speaker:really blessed to have somebody who's done one
Speaker:of the most numbers of treatments in North
Speaker:America actually. So that's the kind of experience you
Speaker:want to look for and something else to ask about as well. Yeah,
Speaker:because it's unlike the microline we previously talked about. This
Speaker:targets multiple different layers. There's electricity. Like you mentioned,
Speaker:the risk to burn the skin if you use too much energy in the
Speaker:wrong level. And you want to be able to
Speaker:achieve some skin tightening, maybe a bit of loss of fat, but in the
Speaker:right area. And overall
Speaker:it really does help that texture in the skin as well too.
Speaker:So it's a tool that in the right hands has
Speaker:wonderful, wonderful results. Yeah, it's a fantastic tool
Speaker:and I'm so glad we have it in our armamentarium because
Speaker:there's nothing else that we have, like no laser that goes that
Speaker:deep. So we can get this sort of lifting,
Speaker:tightening, collagen stimulation with very little downtime.
Speaker:So it's one of my personal favorites and
Speaker:I hope we've demystified that a little bit for people today.
Speaker:Yeah, I think we've kind of covered most of the information that
Speaker:you need to know if it's something that you're looking into. And the
Speaker:conversation will probably go in a little bit more depth on a personal one to
Speaker:one assessment. Whatever clinic you attend to. And as always, if you have
Speaker:questions about this episode, feel free to send us an email which
Speaker:is info at the Beauty Equation. Com.