Captain Ron | S1E19

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Hello.

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Hello, I'm Katie and welcome to

Retro Made Your Pop Culture Rewind.

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Today we're gonna travel back

to September,: 1992

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Adventure Comedy Captain Ron.

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And as always, we will touch on

all of the other happenings of

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the time in the time capsule.

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I am so happy to be joined by my

lovely friend Shannon Salka today.

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Shannon, a true product of the

eighties with her members only jacket.

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To prove it is one of my best boozy

Brunching buddies, but she decided to

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move away last year, so I'm thrilled

to welcome her on Retro Made from Afar.

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Shannon, thank you for,

uh, joining me today.

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Shannon: Yes.

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Hello Katie.

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Thank you for having me.

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Very excited to dive back into 92.

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Katie: Well, let's get right

into it by opening the time

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capsule from September of 1992.

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We, there's some pretty good tv.

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So this is, uh, the season 92 to 93.

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And so for Nielsen ratings, the

top shows, number one I feel

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like almost always is Roseanne.

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Did you watch Roseanne or

do you still watch Roseanne?

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Shannon: Watch Roseanne.

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My parents would tape it, videotape

it, and then mark on the tape in pen.

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On tape Roseanne.

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Yeah.

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a

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whole library of, of Roseanne episodes.

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Katie: It really is a good show.

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I still watch it like to fall

asleep to um, then we have

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home improvement, Murphy Brown

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Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

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Katie: Murder.

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She wrote, coach.

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Cheers.

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Of course.

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full house, TGIF, baby with full house.

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And then the last one

is Northern Exposure.

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Did you ever watch that or do

you recall anything from it?

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Shannon: I recall it, uh, was it

about like in Alaska and they, it

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was like a dramedy on CBS, right?

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Katie: Oh God, you

remember the network even?

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I believe you're correct.

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And yes, it's a fictional town in Alaska

and it's John Corbett, apparently.

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I vaguely remember watching this, but

don't really remember anything from it.

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But yeah, that's Northern Exposure

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Shannon: I think my parents

might have had it on,

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but it wasn't, yeah, it

wasn't a show we watched.

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Mm-Hmm.

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Katie: A big one.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I probably was not in the top shows.

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Maybe this is, its only season

that it eked in the top 10.

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But then we have some really notable

finales that weren't necessarily.

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In the top shows, but the Gold, this

is The Golden Girls Last season.

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That's one of my favorite shows ever.

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Shannon: It

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is.

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And I remember, I remember the final

episode, Dorothy Mary's Blanche's

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uncle, which seemed odd to me

that her uncle was still alive,

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now that I'm thinking about it.

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Um, but yeah, I remember that episode.

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Katie: and it was Leslie Nielsen

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who played him, right?

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Shannon: Yes, it was.

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. Katie: Did you watch Growing Pains?

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I feel like that epitomizes

like my childhood to

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Shannon: I can probably still sing the

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song.

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I loved growing pains.

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you know, we were more of,

like you were mentioning coach,

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that was a big one with my, in

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our household, Murphy Brown, Monday

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Nights, Murphy Brown.

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I could probably name every

night that those shows.

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We're on because we set

our schedule by the shows.

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It's so different now

where you don't have to,

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Katie: Yeah.

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Shannon: you don't have to be

in front of your TV at eight

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o'clock on Tuesday night to watch

Roseanne, you know, you can stream

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it, whatever.

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Um, so yeah.

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You, you would set your watch by what

shows were on that, that evening?

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Katie: Good memory.

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I don't think I could, I just

have such a terrible memory.

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But that is a good point.

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Even now, I mean, my brain is mush anyway,

but when I'm telling someone about a show

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or just at brunch or with whoever, like,

oh, have you seen blah, blah, blah show?

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And they'll be like,

what streamer is it on?

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And I'm like, I don't, I don't remember.

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Like, I can't even recall which

show is on which streamer.

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So this is not helping matters.

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Shannon: Those were shows.

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There was like four networks.

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I mean, it was going to be A B,

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CC, B-S-N-B-C or PBS.

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So it was one of those, you

didn't have to say, oh, it's on

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Netflix, but it's also on freebie.

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Or if you have a Roku, you

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could probably catch it.

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Yeah.

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You either had the stations or you

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didn't.

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If you didn't have any,

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Katie: and,

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and Fox.

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Fox comes into play

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Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

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Katie: around this time, which we'll get

into, uh, a show that wasn't on very long.

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Also, oh my God, the salute Your Shorts.

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It was their final year.

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Who's the boss?

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Night Court, Cosby Show.

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All of those.

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MacGyver, all of those.

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This is their final year.

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So it's, I feel like this is like turning

from like the eighties into the nineties,

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even though this is 92, like there's

a clear shift in the type of show.

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Shannon: Yeah.

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Katie: also the young writers,

did you ever watch that TV show?

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Shannon: The young writers.

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Katie: It was like set in Old West.

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Shannon: No.

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Katie: Um, yeah, it was cowboys.

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It was like the Pony Express.

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And there were some good-looking

it, good-looking men in it, josh

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Brolin was in it as an example.

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Mm-Hmm.

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Shannon: So kind of like a young

gun spinoff, it sounds like.

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Katie: Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Very similar

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esque to that.

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But yes.

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So, um, talking about kind of turning the

ship from the eighties into the nineties,

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the shows that premiered this season.

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So Golden Girls Ended, but Golden Palace

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began.

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Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

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Katie: Uh, I actually only

watched that like pretty recently.

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It's not nearly as good

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Shannon: No,

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Katie: the Golden Girls,

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Shannon: I think it was

only on a season too.

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Or like

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one or two seasons at the most.

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Yeah.

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Katie: Mm-Hmm.

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. But it did have like Cheech Marin and who

was the hotel manager who's like really

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famous now, but at the time he wasn't.

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It's gonna bother me.

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It is Don Cheadle.

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Shannon: Don.

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That's right.

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Oh my gosh.

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Katie: Don Cheadle.

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Shannon: It's hard to think

that he's like of, he was that

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age that he could be in a show.

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I didn't realize he was up

that up that far in years.

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Katie: I mean, he was pretty young.

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He like was managing the hotel, but yeah.

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Don Cheadle Golden Palace.

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Okay.

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Do you remember the Heights

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Shannon: Is

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that a Fox show?

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Katie: It was a mu yes.

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Yes it was.

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And it lasted for less than a season.

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You will.

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Okay.

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It was a musical drama.

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It only lasted for partial season on Fox.

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And the theme to it went to number one on

the billboards by one of the cast members.

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Jamie Walters.

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How do you talk to an angel?

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Do you remember that?

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Shannon: you talk

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to an angel?

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Yes.

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Katie: an named?

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Yes.

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Shannon: I love that.

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Katie: Well, that was from this TV show.

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Shannon: Jamie Walters wasn't

he on 9 0 2 1 Oh as well.

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Katie: Yeah.

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Yeah, I think so.

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Yep.

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Like in the later years?

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Yeah.

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Shannon: Yes.

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Katie: And then The Real

World started this year.

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Shannon: And that would've been

real world New York or, or la

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Katie: Mm-Hmm.

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Shannon: was the very first

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Katie: season one.

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Season one was New York.

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And that was like with the

cast with, um, Heather B.

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Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

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.Yes.

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Yeah, I remember that.

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Katie: so,

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that was like 30 years ago.

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, that's crazy Town.

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Picket Fences is another show that

I like, kind of have like vaguely.

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It, it premiered this year.

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Um,

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Shannon: Remember that a little bit?

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Katie: remembers the show.

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I don't remember.

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So it's a David E.

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Kelly drama that I, I didn't recall that.

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Or I, at the time, obviously I didn't

really care who directed or produced

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things, but it was with Tom Scar, Kathy

Baker, Lauren Holly, Holly Marie Combs.

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I think it was another one of

those dramas, probably on a, B, C.

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Shannon: I think it was CBS

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Katie: Okay.

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That's probably right.

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I can't believe you remem you

have such a good memory of that,

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Shannon: We had,

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we had four stations that we could choose

from because we, we were not lucky enough

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to have cable to have a satellite dish.

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Uh,

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so you, you know, you really had to open

up your, um, open up your options if you

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wanted to be entertained that evening.

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Katie: that, that evening.

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Yes, indeed.

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Uh, so do you remember California Dreams?

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It was basically like a lesser

version of Saved by the Bell,

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Shannon: I can sing

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Katie: how I would describe it.

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Shannon: Loved California Dreams,

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Katie: You did.

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Shannon: with Attitude.

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Chronic gro,

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Katie: Oh my.

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Shannon: laid back moves sky above, sand,

be low, good vibrations, feeling mellow.

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Loved that show.

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It was a little bit more of

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Katie: Oh my

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Shannon: Saved by the Bell.

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They were

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Katie: Okay.

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Okay.

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Shannon: I think the characters,

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it wasn't the gut bubblegum pop.

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the, the problems were a bit

more serious, more teen oriented.

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Where Saved By the Bell was geared

towards four year olds to 24 year

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olds in college, um, who were just

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waking up that morning.

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So, but I loved California Dreams.

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Katie: What about Melrose Place?

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Shannon: Melrose Place.

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You know, I didn't get into

Melrose Place until I was in

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college because we didn't have

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Fox and I didn't

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Katie: Fox wasn't one of the, it didn't.

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Why?

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That's weird.

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I'm, huh.

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Shannon: Nebraska in 1992,

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Katie: we we had Fox.

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I watched all the Fox shows.

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So you didn't get to watch like married

with children or anything then either.

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Shannon: Not until I was, not

until I was older or at my

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grandparents' house.

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Like, we could watch it

because my grandparents had

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satellite, had a satellite

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dish.

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Um, and so we could watch it over there.

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So I do remember watching some

episodes of Married with Children,

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but I don't think we actually, I

really got into it until college.

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Katie: Interesting.

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Melrose was a, that was like an ooh show.

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Shannon: right?

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Katie: that was appointment TV for sure.

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And then some of the other TV shows.

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This is very reminiscent of nineties now.

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Martin hanging with Mr.

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Cooper.

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Mad about you.

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Like, yeah, so we, we have completely

closed the door in the eighties and

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we're full on into the nineties now,

early nineties, which we'll get into now.

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The music of.

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92.

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the specific week of September 18th that

week,: 1992

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, the number one song is

It's The End of the Road

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Shannon: voice to Men.

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Katie: Boys to Men.

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Apparently it was from

the movie Boomerang.

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I don't really recall it being from

that movie, but Boys to Men Boy,

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the early nineties were it for them.

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Shannon: Oh yeah, they, they

represented the early nineties.

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I think

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every song that they put out was platinum

number one on the billboard charts.

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Every Saturday you'd listen

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to Rick D's in the weekly top

40 and they would be on there

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Katie: that just opened a memory for

me when we would, uh, drive I don't

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know, two hours away to wherever, like a

relative's house for a holiday or whatever

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on Sundays, if it was on a Sunday.

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Casey Cassim's show.

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Did you ever listen to that on the radio?

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Shannon: time.

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Remember people would, people would

write in and they would be like, these

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human interest stories, and

he would get really serious.

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And when he was reading 'em, almost

like the guy who did, and now you

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know the rest of the story, he

would sign off and then he'd jump

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right into, and now it's locomotion.

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Katie: locomotion.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Shannon: Yeah.

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Katie: Do you have

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Shannon: La Baba

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Katie: Great movie, by the way.

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Shannon: a really good movie.

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Yeah,

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Katie: Um, I'm gonna have to work

that in somehow, uh, into a season.

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The number two song.

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Is also like this album was everything.

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Baby, baby, baby.

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By TLC.

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Shannon: my mom had that

CD and I would steal it.

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Any chance

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Katie: Your mom had that

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Shannon: my mom?

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Katie: Your mother?

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Shannon: good music.

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Yeah.

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My mom had good music.

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Um, but I remember like the

cover of that CD and everything.

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Katie: Mm-Hmm.

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. Yep.

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Me

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Shannon: baby.

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baby.

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Yeah,

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Katie: No, you're thinking of Amy Grant,

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Shannon: I totally agree.

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But she did have TLC Come a

few bars of Baby, baby, baby,

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Katie: baby.

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baby.

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Baby,

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Shannon: Yeah.

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That's right.

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Katie: yeah.

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Shannon: Oh, wow.

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TLC.

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Yes.

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Another great one.

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The men and the women on the, you

know, battling for number one.

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Katie: Oh my God.

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That's true.

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And it's all, there's so much like

boy band, girl band at this time.

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Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

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Katie: Not necessarily.

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They weren't a band.

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The number three song is by

Bobby Brown humping around

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Shannon: Not

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nearly the the hit that I,

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I liked.

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: 00:14:34

Um, my, my prerogative.

371

: 00:14:36

Way better.

372

: 00:14:38

Yeah.

373

: 00:14:38

Katie: Me too.

374

: 00:14:39

I did too.

375

: 00:14:40

I liked Bobby Brown, but I wasn't like

dying to get his albums or anything.

376

: 00:14:46

Shannon: no.

377

: 00:14:46

Katie: Uh, I am so I do not

know the number four song.

378

: 00:14:50

I even looked it up.

379

: 00:14:52

Never heard of it.

380

: 00:14:54

The song is called Stay the

Artist is Shakespeare's sister.

381

: 00:14:59

Shannon: Sister.

382

: 00:15:00

Um,

383

: 00:15:01

I love that song.

384

: 00:15:02

I love that song.

385

: 00:15:03

I encourage you to watch the video

because it is weird, but the song,

386

: 00:15:09

Katie: it's super weird.

387

: 00:15:10

The Ghostly White Short-Haired Girl.

388

: 00:15:13

Yeah, I watched it, but I didn't

389

: 00:15:15

like it at all, like at

390

: 00:15:16

Shannon: up I thought that the, the

two women singing were the same woman.

391

: 00:15:20

But now as an adult and seeing that video,

I realize that it's two different women.

392

: 00:15:24

Um,

393

: 00:15:25

stay with me.

394

: 00:15:27

Stay with me.

395

: 00:15:29

Yes.

396

: 00:15:30

Katie: Yeah, it's terrible.

397

: 00:15:31

I hate it.

398

: 00:15:32

I, I, I didn't like, I didn't like

it and I also don't recall it at

399

: 00:15:36

like zero memory of it at all.

400

: 00:15:38

I

401

: 00:15:38

Shannon: I remember it.

402

: 00:15:38

and I remember, um, years ago I was

thinking about it and I was like,

403

: 00:15:44

God, what was the name of the group?

404

: 00:15:45

And I kept typing in Twisted Sister, which

is a totally different genre of music

405

: 00:15:51

Katie: Very different.

406

: 00:15:52

Shannon: Yeah.

407

: 00:15:53

Katie: Yeah.

408

: 00:15:53

Shannon: But luckily, TikTok, um, brought

me, you know, a for your page, and it

409

: 00:15:59

was that song and I was like, this is

the song that I loved when I was little.

410

: 00:16:03

And I love that song, but the video is

411

: 00:16:04

very, very different.

412

: 00:16:06

Katie: Strange.

413

: 00:16:07

Mm-Hmm.

414

: 00:16:09

number five on the billboard.

415

: 00:16:11

Top 10 is one of my, it's probably

in my top 10 of all time songs.

416

: 00:16:17

November Rain by Guns and Roses.

417

: 00:16:21

Shannon: Another

418

: 00:16:21

Katie: The video for

this is Spec Spectacular.

419

: 00:16:25

Shannon: it's, it's a work of art.

420

: 00:16:27

Um, it is a work of art

421

: 00:16:29

Katie: It's like 12 minutes long.

422

: 00:16:31

Shannon: Oh yeah.

423

: 00:16:32

And slash

424

: 00:16:33

uh, that really set the stage for

what type of man I was attracted

425

: 00:16:37

to was slash where he's playing

426

: 00:16:39

the guitar in a field and like

the wind's blowing his shirt open.

427

: 00:16:43

You can't see his, his face 'cause his

hair is covering it and he's got his top

428

: 00:16:46

hat on

429

: 00:16:47

Katie: never see his face.

430

: 00:16:47

Shannon: cigarette

hanging out of his mouth.

431

: 00:16:49

Oh That was it for me.

432

: 00:16:52

Katie: I liked both Axel and slash I.

433

: 00:16:54

That video did it for me.

434

: 00:16:56

Let me tell you what, I loved it.

435

: 00:17:23

Shannon: It was a story.

436

: 00:17:25

It was, yeah, it was like a movie.

437

: 00:17:26

And Stephanie Seymour, was she

the model in it or the, the bride

438

: 00:17:32

Katie: she was, and she and Axel were

like boyfriend girlfriend at the time

439

: 00:17:36

Shannon: and I think.

440

: 00:17:37

I read somewhere.

441

: 00:17:38

Yeah, they were, and I think I

read somewhere that like life was

442

: 00:17:41

imitating art for them at that

time that they were having problems

443

: 00:17:44

and the video, they were shooting

444

: 00:17:46

the video at the same time they

were having these, these issues.

445

: 00:17:48

And she

446

: 00:17:49

might've, she might've

tried to hurt herself.

447

: 00:17:53

Around the same time as the video.

448

: 00:17:54

I don't, you know what?

449

: 00:17:55

I don't want anybody to attach

450

: 00:17:56

any legitimacy to that

statement, but I hate to be

451

: 00:18:02

liable.

452

: 00:18:03

Katie: also, um, I wanted her dress.

453

: 00:18:07

I, when I was little, I, and I was like,

well, when I grew up and get married,

454

: 00:18:10

I wanna wear a wedding dress like that.

455

: 00:18:12

Like they're super short in

456

: 00:18:15

Shannon: short.

457

: 00:18:15

Yeah, like a high

458

: 00:18:16

low, like she was the, the

459

: 00:18:18

Katie: Yeah.

460

: 00:18:18

Like the back was long.

461

: 00:18:20

Shannon: yeah.

462

: 00:18:22

The mullet

463

: 00:18:23

Katie: She was beautiful too.

464

: 00:18:25

Shannon: Oh Yeah.

465

: 00:18:26

absolutely.

466

: 00:18:26

Uh

467

: 00:18:27

he was very good looking as well.

468

: 00:18:29

And uh, then somebody got ahold of him

and convinced him that 17 surgeries in

469

: 00:18:34

one year on your face is a good idea.

470

: 00:18:36

But poor guy.

471

: 00:18:39

I think they were

472

: 00:18:40

just in Denver performing

a couple weeks ago.

473

: 00:18:43

I think they were just in

474

: 00:18:44

Katie: Mm-Hmm.

475

: 00:18:44

. They were, yep.

476

: 00:18:46

They were recently.

477

: 00:18:48

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

478

: 00:18:49

I wonder what that show is

479

: 00:18:50

, Katie: Patty Smith has the number six song

with Sometimes Love Just Ain't Enough.

480

: 00:18:54

What a, what a lovely song.

481

: 00:18:55

That was

482

: 00:18:57

Shannon: I don't remember that song.

483

: 00:18:59

Katie: You do, you definitely do.

484

: 00:19:02

Shannon: Is it a country song?

485

: 00:19:03

Katie: Yeah.

486

: 00:19:04

I can't sing it.

487

: 00:19:05

I can't sing it.

488

: 00:19:05

No, but it's like soft.

489

: 00:19:10

It's soft.

490

: 00:19:10

I don't know what genre I would put it in.

491

: 00:19:13

Um,

492

: 00:19:13

the opposite of the next song,

which is House of Pains Jump Around.

493

: 00:19:19

Um,

494

: 00:19:19

Shannon: Junior High

495

: 00:19:20

Katie: that I remember liking.

496

: 00:19:22

Yep.

497

: 00:19:22

Junior.

498

: 00:19:22

Yep.

499

: 00:19:23

For sure.

500

: 00:19:24

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

501

: 00:19:25

Katie: I do not like this song or artist.

502

: 00:19:28

The number eight.

503

: 00:19:30

Is just another day by John Cicada or Ada.

504

: 00:19:34

I hated him.

505

: 00:19:35

I never liked that genre of like,

I didn't like Seal John Akata,

506

: 00:19:40

like any of that kind of stuff.

507

: 00:19:41

I didn't like it

508

: 00:19:43

Shannon: I don't either, and I

don't know if I know the song, but

509

: 00:19:45

if you're describing it correctly,

then I'm not a fan either.

510

: 00:19:50

Katie: But Elton John has the number

nine song with the one which is not a

511

: 00:19:54

super recognizable, like you definitely

know it, you definitely know it once

512

: 00:19:59

you hear it, but, , it's not like

one of, I don't ever think of it when

513

: 00:20:04

I'm thinking of Elton John songs.

514

: 00:20:06

And then the number 10 song, we've

covered this band before and I

515

: 00:20:09

don't recall ever hearing of them.

516

: 00:20:12

Have you heard of the band High Five?

517

: 00:20:15

It's a boy group.

518

: 00:20:16

Shannon: Now.

519

: 00:20:17

Katie: it's like, um, it's

like a knockoff of Boys to Men.

520

: 00:20:22

The song is called, she's Playing Hard to

Get, but it's, it's basically like, yeah.

521

: 00:20:28

A poor man's boys to men.

522

: 00:20:30

And the video

523

: 00:20:32

Shannon: great value,

524

: 00:20:33

boys to men,

525

: 00:20:35

Katie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

526

: 00:20:36

. Yeah.

527

: 00:20:37

The generic version.

528

: 00:20:39

But the video's pretty awesome

in that it encompasses: 1992

529

: 00:20:44

Like the outfits, the style of video.

530

: 00:20:46

It is, everything about it is very 1992

531

: 00:20:50

So there's not really a lot

of like interesting news or

532

: 00:20:53

events from September of 92.

533

: 00:20:55

But John Mellencamp got

married to his third wife.

534

: 00:21:00

He was 40, she was 23.

535

: 00:21:02

She was a model.

536

: 00:21:03

Her name's Elaine Irwin and

they got divorced in: 2011

537

: 00:21:08

Shannon: huh?

538

: 00:21:09

That's

539

: 00:21:10

Katie: What about it is surprising?

540

: 00:21:13

Shannon: Uh, well then it didn't last.

541

: 00:21:18

Katie: Oh, you were being facetious?

542

: 00:21:20

. Well, it lasted a fair amount.

543

: 00:21:24

I mean, more

544

: 00:21:25

Shannon: When did you

say they got divorced?

545

: 00:21:26

Katie: was his third wife.

546

: 00:21:28

Oh, 2011.

547

: 00:21:30

Shannon: Oh, you're right.

548

: 00:21:31

They were married for quite, I

549

: 00:21:32

should bite my tongue.

550

: 00:21:35

Katie: but I mean, it was his third wife.

551

: 00:21:38

I don't know if he's gotten

married again since then.

552

: 00:21:42

Is he still dating Meg

Ryan, or is that old news

553

: 00:21:46

Shannon: I don't know if he is or not.

554

: 00:21:48

And, and

555

: 00:21:48

Katie: minute.

556

: 00:21:49

Shannon: yeah, they were dating.

557

: 00:21:50

Um, I don't know if they are or not.

558

: 00:21:54

I listened to

559

: 00:21:55

his daughter's podcast, but she's never,

I, the podcast I've listened to is,

560

: 00:21:59

she's never talked about Meg Ryan, but

granted I haven't listened to that many.

561

: 00:22:05

Katie: Okay.

562

: 00:22:06

I didn't know his daughter had a podcast,

but you know what, that's not surprising.

563

: 00:22:08

Literally everyone has a podcast.

564

: 00:22:11

, Stallone's daughters have one too.

565

: 00:22:14

Uh, yeah, so Captain Ron was

actually the number seven movie

566

: 00:22:20

at the theaters during this month.

567

: 00:22:23

There's some really good ones sneakers,

which I don't know, I've not seen that.

568

: 00:22:29

It's like a spy movie.

569

: 00:22:30

It's not about shoes.

570

: 00:22:32

Shannon: I've never seen it.

571

: 00:22:33

Uh, so it is a spy movie.

572

: 00:22:34

And who's in it?

573

: 00:22:35

Do, why am I thinking

that Brad Pitt is in it?

574

: 00:22:38

Katie: I don't,

575

: 00:22:39

Shannon: Uh, that's

576

: 00:22:39

Katie: um,

577

: 00:22:40

Shannon: Or Tommy

578

: 00:22:41

Lee Jones.

579

: 00:22:41

Katie: thinking of something else.

580

: 00:22:43

Maybe, I can't recall.

581

: 00:22:45

Shannon: Yeah.

582

: 00:22:45

Katie: Yeah.

583

: 00:22:46

but Honeymoon in Vegas.

584

: 00:22:48

Shannon: Great movie.

585

: 00:22:49

Katie: Unforgiven

586

: 00:22:52

Shannon: Oh, unforgiveness

is another good one.

587

: 00:22:53

Mm-Hmm.

588

: 00:22:55

Katie: Yeah.

589

: 00:22:55

Single white female.

590

: 00:22:59

I adored this movie for some weird reason.

591

: 00:23:01

It was, it seemed so

different at the time.

592

: 00:23:04

Like, wow, this is something brand new

and yeah, I really liked that movie.

593

: 00:23:12

Mm-Hmm.

594

: 00:23:13

Shannon: It had hints of

Fatal attraction in it.

595

: 00:23:17

Um,

596

: 00:23:18

except it was a roommate.

597

: 00:23:19

Yeah.

598

: 00:23:21

Katie: Yeah.

599

: 00:23:21

Mm-Hmm.

600

: 00:23:22

Shannon: That was a good movie.

601

: 00:23:23

Katie: sister Act,

602

: 00:23:24

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

603

: 00:23:26

That was a good one.

604

: 00:23:27

Katie: which is really good.

605

: 00:23:29

It's really good.

606

: 00:23:30

Shannon: My grandparents had that tape.

607

: 00:23:32

That was one that we felt

safe watching at their house.

608

: 00:23:35

Like we knew that nothing was gonna be

609

: 00:23:37

embarrassing.

610

: 00:23:37

We watched a lot of sister

act at my grandparents' house.

611

: 00:23:41

Katie: I feel like we maybe

had that one taped too.

612

: 00:23:43

We had single white female taped.

613

: 00:23:45

I'm pretty sure as well,

614

: 00:23:46

Shannon: Uhhuh

615

: 00:23:48

Katie: the last of the Mohicans, which

I remember being a big movie, but I

616

: 00:23:54

don't recall a single thing about it.

617

: 00:23:58

Shannon: I don't know if I ever watched

it, but I remember, I think he won like

618

: 00:24:02

the, he always won an Academy Award.

619

: 00:24:04

It didn't matter.

620

: 00:24:04

He could be,

621

: 00:24:05

make a movie about washing

dishes and he'd probably win.

622

: 00:24:07

But, um,

623

: 00:24:08

Madeline Stowe, who was kind of a

624

: 00:24:11

nineties actress and

then, you know, to the

625

: 00:24:13

millennium hit and she

faded off into the distance.

626

: 00:24:17

Um,

627

: 00:24:18

but

628

: 00:24:18

Katie: But then she came

back with that revenge show.

629

: 00:24:21

Shannon: Oh,

630

: 00:24:22

she was on

631

: 00:24:22

Katie: with her in it?

632

: 00:24:24

Shannon: No,

633

: 00:24:25

Katie: Yeah.

634

: 00:24:26

Yeah.

635

: 00:24:27

Did you watch that show?

636

: 00:24:28

Shannon: I didn't watch that show.

637

: 00:24:29

That

638

: 00:24:29

was Madeline Sto Or are you thinking

of the lady from Dances with Wolves?

639

: 00:24:35

Maybe I'm wrong.

640

: 00:24:36

Maybe

641

: 00:24:38

Katie: It was Madeline Stowe in

revenge as like the rich wife.

642

: 00:24:45

I forget what her name is.

643

: 00:24:46

Anyway, this next movie I recently

rewatched because it's like Halloweeny.

644

: 00:24:55

It's so good.

645

: 00:24:57

Death becomes her.

646

: 00:24:59

Do you remember that one

647

: 00:25:00

Shannon: Who, who keeps calling Helen.

648

: 00:25:06

Mad and

649

: 00:25:06

hell.

650

: 00:25:07

Katie: our, Meryl Streep and

our Kurt Russell's lovely lady,

651

: 00:25:12

Goldie Han and Bruce Willis.

652

: 00:25:15

It's so good.

653

: 00:25:17

Shannon: It's, I mean,

654

: 00:25:18

I probably watch it at

least once every six months.

655

: 00:25:22

And that was when we saw,

I saw in the movie theater.

656

: 00:25:24

I think my aunt took us, um, to see it.

657

: 00:25:27

But we, I actually

658

: 00:25:28

saw that

659

: 00:25:28

Katie: I didn't see it in the theater.

660

: 00:25:30

Shannon: Oh yeah.

661

: 00:25:31

Great.

662

: 00:25:31

Katie: It's one of those where there's a

lot, like a lot would be lost on children.

663

: 00:25:37

I feel like it's, it's, it's

a quick, quick witted one.

664

: 00:25:40

Mm-Hmm.

665

: 00:25:41

And then a League of

666

: 00:25:42

Their Own was a big movie release.

667

: 00:25:45

Shannon: oh, a League of their Own.

668

: 00:25:46

Yep.

669

: 00:25:46

Love

670

: 00:25:47

that movie too.

671

: 00:25:48

I love a league of of their own.

672

: 00:25:49

And actually there was a TV show that they

made into, or they made, they made a TV

673

: 00:25:55

show from the movie that was short-lived,

674

: 00:25:59

Katie: Of a League of their Own.

675

: 00:26:01

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

676

: 00:26:02

Katie: Sorry.

677

: 00:26:02

I feel like we are, I feel like

there might be a touch of a delay.

678

: 00:26:06

so then the last movie that

was a big release for September

679

: 00:26:10

of 92 is Pet Cemetery two.

680

: 00:26:13

Shannon: Terrible movie.

681

: 00:26:15

Katie: I don't recall it.

682

: 00:26:17

I liked the first one.

683

: 00:26:18

I don't, yeah, I don't know.

684

: 00:26:19

Even

685

: 00:26:19

Shannon: It was.

686

: 00:26:20

Yeah, it is.

687

: 00:26:21

It was awful.

688

: 00:26:22

It was terrible.

689

: 00:26:23

Edward Furlong.

690

: 00:26:23

The only thing that was good about that

691

: 00:26:25

movie was Edward Furlong.

692

: 00:26:27

Um, before Edward Furlong.

693

: 00:26:29

Hit the skids.

694

: 00:26:30

Um, he was in that movie

695

: 00:26:34

Katie: He certainly was.

696

: 00:26:36

Okay.

697

: 00:26:36

I do have a few last questions for

you before we jump into the movie,

698

: 00:26:40

Shannon: Okay.

699

: 00:26:40

Katie: just to kind of get your

impressions of Kurt and Patrick.

700

: 00:26:43

So this season of Retro Made is dedicated

to who I call the ultimate every men,

701

: 00:26:50

both Kurt Russell and Patrick Swayze.

702

: 00:26:54

Do you have any thoughts or fandom

to share about either of them?

703

: 00:27:00

Shannon: Growing up, I think that for me,

Patrick Squeezy was way more recognizable,

704

: 00:27:04

simply because I saw dirty dancing at

the tender age of eight, eight or nine.

705

: 00:27:09

And then ghost, what was that,

approximately: 1990

706

: 00:27:14

Uh, I do, yeah.

707

: 00:27:15

And I don't think I became

aware of Kurt Russell as much.

708

: 00:27:19

I think I knew who he was.

709

: 00:27:20

You know, my folks would maybe

have like, what was it, big

710

: 00:27:23

trouble in little China on, in.

711

: 00:27:25

in.

712

: 00:27:26

Katie: Oh, I love that.

713

: 00:27:27

Yes.

714

: 00:27:27

Shannon: Yeah, they, I have that on.

715

: 00:27:29

But when I saw Overboard in college, uh,

one of my friends on my floor or our, you

716

: 00:27:35

know, where we lived in, in Centennial

Towers East had that, and I borrowed

717

: 00:27:39

Katie: Ooh.

718

: 00:27:40

Shannon: and I was like, what is

this movie that I'm just now seeing?

719

: 00:27:44

Kurt Russell is amazing in this movie,

and he is every man in that movie.

720

: 00:27:48

So since that time, I think that for me it

still remains Patrick Swayze, just because

721

: 00:27:57

I have such ties to him from my childhood.

722

: 00:27:59

Unfortunately, he was

taken from us way too soon.

723

: 00:28:02

Who knows what he might've done.

724

: 00:28:05

Um, you know, now, but Kurt Russell,

you don't really see him in anything.

725

: 00:28:11

I think he was in, um, a Tarantino

movie, like, oh gosh, like the

726

: 00:28:16

Hateful Aid or something like that.

727

: 00:28:17

I could be wrong, but other than

728

: 00:28:19

that, he probably doesn't have to work.

729

: 00:28:22

Uh, so he's just like, I'm just gonna

730

: 00:28:24

Katie: no, he's in like a series.

731

: 00:28:26

He's in like some series, but

it's, yeah, they're like, um, and

732

: 00:28:30

he's in some of the Marvel movie.

733

: 00:28:32

Like he's and like Fast and Furious movie,

like stuff that I wouldn't watch now.

734

: 00:28:36

Like I have zero interest

in the Fast and Furious 20.

735

: 00:28:39

Or like, it's, he's in, I wanna say's like

736

: 00:28:44

Monsters of the something.

737

: 00:28:45

It's on one of the streamers.

738

: 00:28:46

It's a show that I would have

zero interest in watching.

739

: 00:28:49

But he is in that some

740

: 00:28:51

Shannon: And, and you.

741

: 00:28:51

And you said he is in Marvel too.

742

: 00:28:53

Um, which does not surprise

me because his son Wyatt,

743

: 00:28:58

is like the new Captain

America or something.

744

: 00:29:02

They had Cap Captain American, the

Winter Soldier, or winter, no, I'm sorry.

745

: 00:29:05

Winter soldier in the Falcon.

746

: 00:29:06

I'm, he was in that,

like his son was in that.

747

: 00:29:09

Katie: Well they're in this TV show

together It's gonna bother me now.

748

: 00:29:14

It's like, it starts with an m.

749

: 00:29:16

Shannon: Huh?

750

: 00:29:17

I think he's, I think he's a great actor.

751

: 00:29:18

I think comedic, you

know, a comedic actor.

752

: 00:29:21

He's very funny.

753

: 00:29:23

Uh, again, captain Ron and Overboard are

the two movies that I, if somebody said

754

: 00:29:30

Kurt Russell, that's what I think of.

755

: 00:29:32

Katie: Yep overboard.

756

: 00:29:34

I can't Oh, you missed

out in your childhood?

757

: 00:29:36

Not having seen that, um, until

758

: 00:29:38

college, but it, it's Monarch

legacy of the Monsters is the

759

: 00:29:44

Shannon: Oh,

760

: 00:29:45

Katie: So like I have

zero interest in that.

761

: 00:29:48

Mm.

762

: 00:29:49

Apples tv, maybe Apple

763

: 00:29:50

Shannon: Oh, okay.

764

: 00:29:51

Interesting.

765

: 00:29:53

But going back to your original

question, yes, Patrick Swayze will

766

: 00:29:55

always hold a place in my heart.

767

: 00:29:58

Um.

768

: 00:29:59

For, for those movies.

769

: 00:30:00

Roadhouse, you know, that was another

770

: 00:30:02

great one that Ricky,

yeah, really good one.

771

: 00:30:05

Oh my gosh, the outsiders

forgot about that.

772

: 00:30:07

Probably one of his first

773

: 00:30:08

movies.

774

: 00:30:09

Um, that I, yeah, I

really like the outsiders.

775

: 00:30:12

What else?

776

: 00:30:12

Yeah.

777

: 00:30:13

Yeah.

778

: 00:30:14

that's where

779

: 00:30:15

he stand.

780

: 00:30:15

Katie: Red, red Dawn two, Wong

781

: 00:30:18

Fu.

782

: 00:30:19

Um, yeah, I'm just trying to think of

what's kind of filled in in between there.

783

: 00:30:23

Yeah.

784

: 00:30:25

Well, my next question is I ask everyone

this, do you think that Patrick Swayze

785

: 00:30:31

and Kurt Russell look at all alike?

786

: 00:30:36

Shannon: No.

787

: 00:30:37

Do you.

788

: 00:30:40

Katie: Very much so.

789

: 00:30:41

You're the first, probably one of the few.

790

: 00:30:44

So I haven't had a lot of women

on most, and it is one of those

791

: 00:30:47

things, a, a lot of women very

much think that they look alike.

792

: 00:30:50

They have a similar like

bone facial structure.

793

: 00:30:53

They're both incredibly handsome,

strong jawline masculine.

794

: 00:30:56

They're both, every men,

their hair is similar.

795

: 00:31:00

I mean, not in Captain Ron

796

: 00:31:02

,

Shannon: Yeah, maybe, maybe now that you're saying this, and I'm picturing them

797

: 00:31:06

both in my head, it's not a correlation

I would've made if somebody hadn't,

798

: 00:31:09

you know, put it, put it out there.

799

: 00:31:11

But I guess you're right.

800

: 00:31:12

Yeah.

801

: 00:31:12

When you put 'em side by side,

they could probably play brothers.

802

: 00:31:17

Not now,

803

: 00:31:17

Katie: Yes.

804

: 00:31:18

That's what I want to happen.

805

: 00:31:19

Like Dalton, Dalton, side by side

with, um, uh, what, what was, what

806

: 00:31:27

was Kurt's name in, um, overboard?

807

: 00:31:30

Shannon: uh, profit Dean, profit

808

: 00:31:32

Katie: Dean.

809

: 00:31:33

Dean.

810

: 00:31:33

Yes.

811

: 00:31:34

So Dalton and Dean.

812

: 00:31:35

I want that

813

: 00:31:36

Shannon: Okay.

814

: 00:31:37

Katie: please.

815

: 00:31:38

Yes.

816

: 00:31:40

Okay, let's get into the movie.

817

: 00:31:50

Captain Ron.

818

: 00:31:53

September 18th, 1992.

819

: 00:31:55

It's PG 13.

820

: 00:31:58

Now it's an hour and 40

minutes, but I really thought

821

: 00:32:01

it was way longer it seemed.

822

: 00:32:05

Shannon: I kept pausing

823

: 00:32:06

to see how much, yeah.

824

: 00:32:08

Like, I was like, when is this movie done?

825

: 00:32:11

like, I kept pausing to see how

much time was left, and when it

826

: 00:32:15

said 45 minutes, I was like, really?

827

: 00:32:17

What else are they?

828

: 00:32:19

What, what other storyline

can they drag into this?

829

: 00:32:22

I mean, what is going to happen?

830

: 00:32:24

I completely agree with you, Katie, that

that movie did drag on, uh, probably

831

: 00:32:29

could have been an hour and got the same

832

: 00:32:32

Katie: Well, but, but

that's why it's shocking.

833

: 00:32:34

It's, it was only an hour and 40

minutes apparently, but it seemed

834

: 00:32:38

so much longer than that.

835

: 00:32:39

There was, there was a lot packed into it.

836

: 00:32:42

The INDB rating was a 5.8.

837

: 00:32:46

Our director here is Tom Eberhart.

838

: 00:32:49

he also directed, uh, honey.

839

: 00:32:51

I Blew Up the Kids and Without

a clue, and he was also one of

840

: 00:32:55

the writers for Captain Ron.

841

: 00:32:57

The other writer is John Dwyer,

known for this movie, and it's

842

: 00:33:03

like a newer, newer series.

843

: 00:33:05

Confessions of a Serial Killer.

844

: 00:33:08

The music, which I didn't take like

special note of as I was watching it as

845

: 00:33:15

I sometimes do, it didn't blow me away.

846

: 00:33:17

Uh, but it was Nicholas Pike who

is an English composer, known for

847

: 00:33:22

a lot of TV work and the shows that

he is known for will make sense that

848

: 00:33:27

it, that he was on Captain Wrong.

849

: 00:33:29

So there was apparently a

miniseries for the, like the

850

: 00:33:33

Shining miniseries, not the movie.

851

: 00:33:36

Also Tales from the Crypt,

852

: 00:33:38

Shannon: Well, don't you?

853

: 00:33:38

Wait, don't you?

854

: 00:33:39

remember we talked to, we talked about,

um, going back to the Shining mini series.

855

: 00:33:44

I don't wanna get too off track,

but, um, we, the, when we stayed

856

: 00:33:47

at the, um, hotel in Estes,

857

: 00:33:50

um, the Stanley

858

: 00:33:51

That's where they shot

859

: 00:33:52

the second one.

860

: 00:33:53

The first one, the movie was shot

somewhere out in like New England,

861

: 00:33:55

like Maine or something like that.

862

: 00:33:57

So the, the mini series,

863

: 00:33:59

which the guy from Wing, Steven

Weber, Rebecca Derna, were in it.

864

: 00:34:03

They shot that one.

865

: 00:34:04

And it was like a, this was an event

in my life, that's why I know this.

866

: 00:34:07

I loved it.

867

: 00:34:07

I taped it.

868

: 00:34:08

I was a senior in high school,

watched it over and over.

869

: 00:34:11

Um, but

870

: 00:34:12

that was shot.

871

: 00:34:12

Katie: it.

872

: 00:34:14

Shannon: It's really, it's much

more aligned with the book.

873

: 00:34:17

Stephen King, I think, had a

lot more, um, input and, uh,

874

: 00:34:22

he did a lot more with this.

875

: 00:34:24

Like they consulted him

on, on it, um, to make it

876

: 00:34:27

more, yeah, comparative to the

book versus the, the movie with

877

: 00:34:31

Jack Nicholson and Shelly Duvall.

878

: 00:34:33

Um.

879

: 00:34:34

But again, they shot it at the

actual Stanley Hotel, which is

880

: 00:34:38

much smaller in scale than the one

that they shot the first one in.

881

: 00:34:42

Um, but yeah, I do recommend you

watch it because we were there.

882

: 00:34:45

We, you know, you'll re if you can

remember when we went there, because

883

: 00:34:48

it was only few years ago, you'll

be like, oh my gosh, I remember

884

: 00:34:51

that lobby and I remember that

ballroom and I remember the bar

885

: 00:34:54

that they showed us.

886

: 00:34:54

Yeah.

887

: 00:34:55

So,

888

: 00:34:56

Katie: mm-Hmm.

889

: 00:34:57

Yeah.

890

: 00:34:57

We did a tour of it and stayed there.

891

: 00:35:00

I, we didn't get haunted though.

892

: 00:35:02

Shannon: uh,

893

: 00:35:03

We

894

: 00:35:03

have

895

: 00:35:03

Katie: not stay in that special room.

896

: 00:35:06

Shannon: no, but our friend, I

won't name names to protect the

897

: 00:35:08

innocent, but our friend, the other

898

: 00:35:10

Katie: Oh yeah.

899

: 00:35:12

Shannon: she

900

: 00:35:12

swears up and down

901

: 00:35:13

like

902

: 00:35:14

Katie: she does.

903

: 00:35:15

Shannon: footsteps or something above us.

904

: 00:35:16

I'm like, we're in a hotel.

905

: 00:35:18

We, of course there's footsteps above us.

906

: 00:35:20

Katie: Yeah.

907

: 00:35:20

There's people staying above us.

908

: 00:35:23

Shannon: but, you know, there's,

there's no convincing her, she,

909

: 00:35:25

she had otherworldly experience.

910

: 00:35:28

Katie: That's right,

911

: 00:35:30

that's right.

912

: 00:35:30

I have forgotten about that.

913

: 00:35:31

God, it is a good thing that you're around

sometimes because my memory is total shit.

914

: 00:35:38

Okay.

915

: 00:35:38

Shannon: We took a tour.

916

: 00:35:39

They talked about

917

: 00:35:39

Katie: that.

918

: 00:35:40

I know, I know.

919

: 00:35:41

I don't remember things.

920

: 00:35:42

I don't.

921

: 00:35:43

Um, also tales from the, the crypt.

922

: 00:35:46

He led the band on the Bonnie Hunt Show.

923

: 00:35:48

He did music videos for

Michael Jackson's ghost.

924

: 00:35:51

You Rock My World, and some Mc hammer

videos and Will Smith's Wild Wild West.

925

: 00:35:57

So like that kind of tells a story of

like the type of music that he does.

926

: 00:36:00

But so that's Nicholas Pike.

927

: 00:36:04

We have our lovely every man Kurt

Russell in a very different role

928

: 00:36:09

for him playing Captain Ron, what

did you think when you saw him, when

929

: 00:36:16

Shannon: Um,

930

: 00:36:16

Katie: introduced to him?

931

: 00:36:18

Shannon: yes, absolutely.

932

: 00:36:19

You know, this is a movie that I watched

when I was 12, uh, when it came out.

933

: 00:36:24

I remember.

934

: 00:36:25

My grand seeing it at my grandparents'

house because they had a satellite dish.

935

: 00:36:29

Uh, so I wasn't surprised

by his appearance.

936

: 00:36:32

In fact, I more so imagine him as,

you know, the long dingy hair because

937

: 00:36:38

that's who he played in, um, overboard.

938

: 00:36:41

I don't know if I necessarily would

think of him in any other way than the

939

: 00:36:45

long, scruffy hair and the open shirt or

the, the tank top, because those are the

940

: 00:36:51

movies that, that I am familiar with.

941

: 00:36:53

When you say, oh, this is a quite

different role for him that I find,

942

: 00:36:57

I, I can't, um, consign myself to

simply because these are the movies

943

: 00:37:02

I seen and I couldn't see

him in a dramatic role.

944

: 00:37:05

Oh, maybe swing time.

945

: 00:37:06

I think he, he was in swing time.

946

: 00:37:07

Right.

947

: 00:37:07

But I don't, yeah.

948

: 00:37:08

But anyway, um, when I first saw

him, I thought he looked good.

949

: 00:37:11

You know, they had him painted

up a little red, too red, the

950

: 00:37:13

makeup, like, like he's been sun,

951

: 00:37:15

sun

952

: 00:37:16

Katie: like sun.

953

: 00:37:16

Shannon: and Yeah, he, yeah, he looked

like he had an, he was on fire internally.

954

: 00:37:20

Like it was just really red.

955

: 00:37:24

But

956

: 00:37:25

Katie: Oh my God.

957

: 00:37:26

This is so very interesting,

Shannon, because.

958

: 00:37:31

The reason I You are right.

959

: 00:37:33

Like, so it's not his hair.

960

: 00:37:34

He's wearing a really horrible wig.

961

: 00:37:37

It's bad hair.

962

: 00:37:38

And he has a dad bod.

963

: 00:37:40

He's usually

964

: 00:37:41

Shannon: oh, total dad bod.

965

: 00:37:42

Mm-Hmm.

966

: 00:37:43

Katie: nice, nicer looking.

967

: 00:37:45

But this every other movie that we've

covered, curtain, he's very handsome.

968

: 00:37:51

And you, like, I'm very

attracted to him, but not

969

: 00:37:56

This is the first movie that

I'm not attracted to him in.

970

: 00:37:59

Shannon: Well, were, were, are

the movies that you're comparing

971

: 00:38:01

him to when he was younger?

972

: 00:38:02

Because this is like, he's

middle aged in this movie.

973

: 00:38:05

This is 1992, you know, so

he's gotta be like, I would say

974

: 00:38:08

late thirties, early forties.

975

: 00:38:09

Right.

976

: 00:38:09

So having a dad bod would, would

not be, um, you know, something

977

: 00:38:15

that is surprising to me.

978

: 00:38:17

Katie: I mean, he's never

been super, super buff.

979

: 00:38:19

He's, he's never been like,

cut by that I mean cut.

980

: 00:38:23

Um, like Swayze was cut like

very, you know, um, but like.

981

: 00:38:30

I mean, we've covered things

from literally like: 1980

982

: 00:38:34

to the most recent one.

983

: 00:38:36

Like tango and cash,

984

: 00:38:39

Shannon: Oh yeah.

985

: 00:38:39

Katie: overboard.

986

: 00:38:40

The thing, um, backdraft,

I'm trying to think.

987

: 00:38:44

Some other cur I just covered

tombstone that, at the time of this

988

: 00:38:48

recording will have already been out.

989

: 00:38:50

Um, so, and he's, yeah.

990

: 00:38:52

Middle.

991

: 00:38:53

I guess I have no problem with him being

middle aged, especially at that time.

992

: 00:38:57

I think a lot of guys, which is

sucks for us because they look

993

: 00:39:01

better when they're like middle.

994

: 00:39:03

Like these really hunky,

handsome Hollywood stars

995

: 00:39:06

look good in their forties

996

: 00:39:08

and fifties a lot of the time.

997

: 00:39:10

So he's very, and he's got those eyes all,

yeah, Kurt Russell and everything else

998

: 00:39:17

he does is very handsome except for this

999

: 00:39:21

Shannon: in this movie, he

has an eye, not the eyes.

: 1000

00:39:26,005 --> 00:39:26,815

Katie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

: 1001

00:39:27,765 --> 00:39:28,055

. Yeah.

: 1002

00:39:28,445 --> 00:39:28,735

Yeah.

: 1003

00:39:28,835 --> 00:39:30,895

So anyway, that was what I took note of.

: 1004

00:39:30,895 --> 00:39:33,015

It was like, oh, I don't,

this is the first time I'm

: 1005

00:39:33,015 --> 00:39:36,095

not jumping at Kurt Russell.

: 1006

00:39:37,835 --> 00:39:38,125

Shannon: Yeah.

: 1007

00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:40,765

And I just have never, I've never

seen him in a movie where he's been

: 1008

00:39:40,805 --> 00:39:43,005

a, a sex object or a sex symbol, so

: 1009

00:39:43,305 --> 00:39:44,245

it didn't surprise me.

: 1010

00:39:44,245 --> 00:39:46,605

What surprised me was the makeup

that they had on his chest.

: 1011

00:39:46,635 --> 00:39:50,565

Like I said, um, he just

looked, he looked very red.

: 1012

00:39:51,745 --> 00:39:52,165

Katie: Mm-Hmm.

: 1013

00:39:52,435 --> 00:39:52,725

. Yeah.

: 1014

00:39:52,725 --> 00:39:53,965

He's supposed to be Sun Bumb.

: 1015

00:39:55,115 --> 00:39:56,135

Shannon: He looked like he just walked

: 1016

00:39:57,525 --> 00:39:57,815

Katie: Yeah.

: 1017

00:39:58,865 --> 00:40:03,565

Martin Short plays Martin

Harvey and Mary Kay Place.

: 1018

00:40:03,745 --> 00:40:03,965

Ha.

: 1019

00:40:04,195 --> 00:40:05,245

Mary Kay place.

: 1020

00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:07,570

Plays his wife.

: 1021

00:40:07,710 --> 00:40:08,490

Say that a few times.

: 1022

00:40:09,350 --> 00:40:13,730

Um, Catherine Harvey and she,

everyone knows who she is.

: 1023

00:40:14,315 --> 00:40:14,605

Shannon: Yeah.

: 1024

00:40:14,780 --> 00:40:18,790

Katie: Even if you don't, you can't

like place her name, but she's known for

: 1025

00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:21,750

like the Big Chill being John Malkovich.

: 1026

00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:26,110

And she was actually Emmy

nominated for her, uh, long

: 1027

00:40:26,110 --> 00:40:28,630

running guest role in Big Love.

: 1028

00:40:29,130 --> 00:40:30,150

Did you ever see that show

: 1029

00:40:31,075 --> 00:40:31,829

Shannon: Uh, yes.

: 1030

00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:37,229

I think I was, uh, we were, were we in

our like, early, early twenties when

: 1031

00:40:37,229 --> 00:40:39,069

that show was on, it was about, um,

: 1032

00:40:40,824 --> 00:40:41,384

Katie: polygamy?

: 1033

00:40:41,939 --> 00:40:42,219

Shannon: Yeah.

: 1034

00:40:42,219 --> 00:40:42,659

Polygamy.

: 1035

00:40:42,799 --> 00:40:46,979

Um, and I did not know she was in

that, but she was also in Sweet Home

: 1036

00:40:46,979 --> 00:40:48,699

Alabama, who, she, she played a mother

: 1037

00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,699

in that movie, a very different looking

kind of mother, uh, than she plays in

: 1038

00:40:52,699 --> 00:40:53,099

this movie.

: 1039

00:40:54,344 --> 00:40:54,764

Katie: Mm-Hmm.

: 1040

00:40:54,989 --> 00:40:57,289

Shannon: here's a fun fact that

I knew about Mary Kay place.

: 1041

00:40:58,429 --> 00:41:00,609

She directed an episode of Friends.

: 1042

00:41:01,617 --> 00:41:02,037

Katie: really?

: 1043

00:41:02,832 --> 00:41:03,122

Shannon: Yeah,

: 1044

00:41:03,197 --> 00:41:03,807

Katie: Good tidbit.

: 1045

00:41:03,842 --> 00:41:04,042

Shannon: know.

: 1046

00:41:04,087 --> 00:41:04,327

Katie: like that.

: 1047

00:41:04,892 --> 00:41:05,182

Shannon: Yeah.

: 1048

00:41:05,367 --> 00:41:06,137

Katie: Just one off.

: 1049

00:41:06,257 --> 00:41:06,977

A one off, huh?

: 1050

00:41:07,072 --> 00:41:09,282

Shannon: Just a one-off,

uh, a one-off episode.

: 1051

00:41:09,282 --> 00:41:10,842

And it's a pretty, I

mean, it's a good episode.

: 1052

00:41:10,872 --> 00:41:11,802

It's the, the list.

: 1053

00:41:12,222 --> 00:41:15,802

Um, the one, it's season

two, the one where

: 1054

00:41:16,902 --> 00:41:17,592

Ross creates

: 1055

00:41:17,612 --> 00:41:18,032

the list

: 1056

00:41:18,047 --> 00:41:18,647

Katie: the things wrong,

: 1057

00:41:19,532 --> 00:41:19,752

Shannon: Yes.

: 1058

00:41:19,752 --> 00:41:21,952

With Rachel and, um, Julie,

: 1059

00:41:22,332 --> 00:41:24,032

um, you know when he brings Julie home?

: 1060

00:41:24,062 --> 00:41:24,352

Yeah.

: 1061

00:41:24,382 --> 00:41:24,672

Yeah.

: 1062

00:41:25,412 --> 00:41:28,152

Uh, she directed that

episode, which you don't like.

: 1063

00:41:28,172 --> 00:41:29,952

That's just kind of outta

left field, but whatever.

: 1064

00:41:29,952 --> 00:41:30,512

It's great episode.

: 1065

00:41:30,512 --> 00:41:31,112

She did a good job.

: 1066

00:41:31,867 --> 00:41:32,287

Katie: indeed.

: 1067

00:41:33,507 --> 00:41:37,487

So then the kids in this, I love

that this movie, it's a pretty

: 1068

00:41:37,487 --> 00:41:41,367

small cast sometimes there's, um,

such a big cast of characters.

: 1069

00:41:41,757 --> 00:41:45,787

It's hard to keep everybody straight,

but this is short and sweet.

: 1070

00:41:46,507 --> 00:41:51,547

Benjamin Salisbury plays the

11-year-old Ben Harvey and.

: 1071

00:41:52,467 --> 00:41:55,677

This is pre the Nanny, but

that's, he's most known for

: 1072

00:41:55,677 --> 00:41:57,797

playing Brighton in the Nanny.

: 1073

00:41:58,497 --> 00:42:03,997

And I gotta say this kid, I

don't typically like kid actors.

: 1074

00:42:04,277 --> 00:42:11,097

I, but he was really good in this like,

and kind of an adorable little Yeah,

: 1075

00:42:11,932 --> 00:42:13,102

Shannon: Doesn't overdo it.

: 1076

00:42:13,642 --> 00:42:18,822

Um, but isn't, you know, stiff and,

you know, shouldn't be on screen.

: 1077

00:42:18,982 --> 00:42:19,622

I agree with you.

: 1078

00:42:19,702 --> 00:42:20,862

I thought he did a really good job.

: 1079

00:42:21,122 --> 00:42:22,102

Fun, fun character.

: 1080

00:42:23,967 --> 00:42:24,387

Katie: indeed.

: 1081

00:42:24,887 --> 00:42:25,947

Meadow Cyto.

: 1082

00:42:26,847 --> 00:42:28,467

Meadow cyto.

: 1083

00:42:30,597 --> 00:42:32,567

That doesn't sound right, but it is

: 1084

00:42:32,987 --> 00:42:37,927

She plays Carol and she's, she's

the 16-year-old, uh, daughter

: 1085

00:42:38,467 --> 00:42:40,007

and she's not well known.

: 1086

00:42:40,007 --> 00:42:43,567

However, she is the cyto of Jeremy Cyto.

: 1087

00:42:43,987 --> 00:42:44,407

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

: 1088

00:42:45,227 --> 00:42:46,207

of clueless fame.

: 1089

00:42:47,052 --> 00:42:47,272

Katie: Yes.

: 1090

00:42:47,332 --> 00:42:48,192

Of clueless fame.

: 1091

00:42:48,292 --> 00:42:48,512

Yes.

: 1092

00:42:48,872 --> 00:42:49,972

Shannon: Wilton Elton

: 1093

00:42:51,421 --> 00:42:57,731

Katie: LN Sunshine, Lao plays General

Armando, he's not really well known.

: 1094

00:42:57,791 --> 00:43:01,411

And then we have Paul Anka

playing the yacht dealer.

: 1095

00:43:03,231 --> 00:43:04,291

Shannon: That's who that is.

: 1096

00:43:04,431 --> 00:43:05,251

I'm looking at him and

: 1097

00:43:05,251 --> 00:43:07,251

I'm like, God, who is that guy?

: 1098

00:43:07,391 --> 00:43:08,331

That's tall?

: 1099

00:43:08,441 --> 00:43:08,731

Paul.

: 1100

00:43:09,121 --> 00:43:10,011

Paul Anka.

: 1101

00:43:10,751 --> 00:43:11,891

Is Paul Anka still

: 1102

00:43:11,891 --> 00:43:12,131

with

: 1103

00:43:12,131 --> 00:43:12,251

us?

: 1104

00:43:12,431 --> 00:43:17,251

Katie: know he was, I dunno, I'm not sure.

: 1105

00:43:18,731 --> 00:43:19,471

Shannon: He, yeah.

: 1106

00:43:19,731 --> 00:43:21,551

He was a crooner back in the day.

: 1107

00:43:21,851 --> 00:43:22,511

Had some hits.

: 1108

00:43:22,911 --> 00:43:23,621

Maybe not tall.

: 1109

00:43:23,621 --> 00:43:27,901

Tall Paul, maybe the Shelly Rey song,

tall Paul, or, or maybe it's net ello.

: 1110

00:43:27,901 --> 00:43:31,221

Anyway, it's not about him, but

I, I know he was like famous,

: 1111

00:43:31,801 --> 00:43:32,901

you know, back in the fifties

: 1112

00:43:32,961 --> 00:43:33,821

and sixties, right?

: 1113

00:43:34,171 --> 00:43:34,461

Yeah.

: 1114

00:43:35,531 --> 00:43:35,951

Katie: he was.

: 1115

00:43:36,051 --> 00:43:39,991

And actually, um, little piece of

trivia, when the Harvey's at the

: 1116

00:43:39,991 --> 00:43:41,911

end of the movie, when they pull in.

: 1117

00:43:43,181 --> 00:43:46,551

, like they're about to pull into

Miami and, and Paul Anca is there.

: 1118

00:43:46,821 --> 00:43:52,171

There's one of the boats that is

being stacked is called My Way, which

: 1119

00:43:52,171 --> 00:43:56,491

was actually the name of Paul Anika's,

biggest, one of his biggest hits.

: 1120

00:43:57,091 --> 00:43:58,531

Sung by Frank

: 1121

00:43:58,661 --> 00:43:59,771

Shannon: Frank Sinatra.

: 1122

00:44:00,121 --> 00:44:00,411

Yeah.

: 1123

00:44:01,661 --> 00:44:02,291

Katie: Among others.

: 1124

00:44:02,481 --> 00:44:02,771

Yeah.

: 1125

00:44:03,891 --> 00:44:04,111

Yep.

: 1126

00:44:04,891 --> 00:44:05,951

So that's the cast.

: 1127

00:44:06,781 --> 00:44:14,351

This movie, lost Money , its budget was 24

million with a box office of 22.5 million.

: 1128

00:44:14,491 --> 00:44:15,191

So that's rough.

: 1129

00:44:15,751 --> 00:44:16,041

Shannon: Yeah.

: 1130

00:44:16,704 --> 00:44:21,114

Katie: Overall impressions, favorite

scenes, memories, watching, what do

: 1131

00:44:21,114 --> 00:44:22,354

you We will start us off, Shannon

: 1132

00:44:22,994 --> 00:44:26,604

Shannon: Well, again, my

palette when it comes to movies

: 1133

00:44:26,784 --> 00:44:28,284

has changed since I was 12.

: 1134

00:44:29,224 --> 00:44:30,684

It wasn't as sophisticated.

: 1135

00:44:30,864 --> 00:44:35,204

So this is a movie that we, we

watched over and over, um, at my

: 1136

00:44:35,204 --> 00:44:36,444

grandparents' house when it was on.

: 1137

00:44:37,269 --> 00:44:38,009

One of the show times.

: 1138

00:44:38,169 --> 00:44:44,529

I remember that, uh, LA when I

was watching it, um, again, there

: 1139

00:44:44,549 --> 00:44:48,569

was some laugh out loud moments,

specifically involving Martin Short's,

: 1140

00:44:49,049 --> 00:44:53,249

physical kind of slapstick comedy

where he would fall off the boat and

: 1141

00:44:53,249 --> 00:44:54,929

make some sort of surprise sound.

: 1142

00:44:55,789 --> 00:44:57,649

Um, I did laugh out loud.

: 1143

00:44:57,849 --> 00:45:03,969

I, for whatever reason I thought him

calling Captain Ron Moron was very clever.

: 1144

00:45:04,749 --> 00:45:08,089

Uh, you know, so I laughed

out loud at those, um, scenes.

: 1145

00:45:08,889 --> 00:45:10,169

I mean, I loved Martin Short.

: 1146

00:45:10,489 --> 00:45:12,089

I remember his Saturday Night Live days.

: 1147

00:45:12,169 --> 00:45:16,289

I remember him as, um, ed Grimley

and other movies from the eighties

: 1148

00:45:16,289 --> 00:45:17,529

and nineties that he was in.

: 1149

00:45:18,554 --> 00:45:23,614

And now he's found re renewed fame

in only murders in the building.

: 1150

00:45:24,314 --> 00:45:26,494

Um, and so I do like Martin Short a lot.

: 1151

00:45:26,694 --> 00:45:29,174

I think he's, he's just

a very, very funny man.

: 1152

00:45:29,914 --> 00:45:34,494

Uh, but again, the movie was, I was

like, God, when is this movie gonna end?

: 1153

00:45:34,644 --> 00:45:35,614

It's so long.

: 1154

00:45:36,444 --> 00:45:39,614

It's like the Titanic, you know, I mean

: 1155

00:45:40,324 --> 00:45:42,574

Katie: It's like half,

half the film runtime.

: 1156

00:45:42,634 --> 00:45:44,134

But yeah, it somehow felt

: 1157

00:45:44,234 --> 00:45:47,614

Shannon: Is it come in like a two

box set like the Titanic movie did?

: 1158

00:45:47,614 --> 00:45:54,174

Like it was so, um, again, there were

laugh out loud parts, but is it something

: 1159

00:45:54,174 --> 00:45:55,774

that I would watch over and over?

: 1160

00:45:56,314 --> 00:45:59,534

No, I think that, that, I think

that watching it for this show

: 1161

00:45:59,994 --> 00:46:03,214

was probably the last time I

will see that movie voluntarily,

: 1162

00:46:05,494 --> 00:46:05,714

Katie: Wow.

: 1163

00:46:06,234 --> 00:46:07,594

I think I enjoyed it a little more.

: 1164

00:46:07,874 --> 00:46:09,034

I actually don't recall.

: 1165

00:46:09,914 --> 00:46:13,554

I know I have seen it before,

but as, as we're well aware by

: 1166

00:46:13,554 --> 00:46:14,754

now, Katie has a bad memory.

: 1167

00:46:14,974 --> 00:46:17,754

So it was as if I was watching

it again for the first time.

: 1168

00:46:18,854 --> 00:46:24,844

Uh, I love that it was, the

opening part was set in Chicago.

: 1169

00:46:25,044 --> 00:46:26,884

I love movies set in Chicago.

: 1170

00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:27,899

Shannon: Yep.

: 1171

00:46:29,464 --> 00:46:34,144

Katie: I just, the whole premise is

so like early nineties, like movie

: 1172

00:46:34,144 --> 00:46:40,414

making, but I was in for it in that

like, can you imagine as either an

: 1173

00:46:40,414 --> 00:46:45,534

11-year-old or a 16-year-old, like

a 45 day sailing adventure during

: 1174

00:46:45,634 --> 00:46:47,894

the school year with your family?

: 1175

00:46:48,669 --> 00:46:48,889

Shannon: No.

: 1176

00:46:49,149 --> 00:46:50,129

And they didn't go home.

: 1177

00:46:50,189 --> 00:46:51,089

That's the whole premise.

: 1178

00:46:51,289 --> 00:46:52,049

I mean, I hate, I'm

: 1179

00:46:52,049 --> 00:46:54,529

trying not, not trying to give the

ending away, but they didn't go

: 1180

00:46:54,544 --> 00:46:55,434

Katie: Spoiler alert.

: 1181

00:46:55,974 --> 00:46:56,834

Shannon: School alert.

: 1182

00:46:56,884 --> 00:46:59,274

These kids were not being

put back into school.

: 1183

00:47:00,054 --> 00:47:00,274

Um,

: 1184

00:47:00,654 --> 00:47:02,594

and every, and everybody

lived happily ever after.

: 1185

00:47:03,254 --> 00:47:05,674

But you said this is the

quintessential nineties movie.

: 1186

00:47:05,914 --> 00:47:07,434

I was thinking that exact same thing.

: 1187

00:47:07,464 --> 00:47:12,394

Like the rich aunt or uncle who

nobody knew, didn't have any kids,

: 1188

00:47:12,734 --> 00:47:17,994

leaves, leaves, you know, this,

um, adult person, either a house

: 1189

00:47:18,174 --> 00:47:19,954

or a boat or some sort of fortune.

: 1190

00:47:20,934 --> 00:47:23,514

That's the premise or

setup of, of a lot of

: 1191

00:47:23,514 --> 00:47:24,474

these nineties movies.

: 1192

00:47:25,294 --> 00:47:25,514

And

: 1193

00:47:26,174 --> 00:47:30,034

that's how this one starts off,

um, is how he gets that boat.

: 1194

00:47:30,731 --> 00:47:30,951

Katie: Yes.

: 1195

00:47:31,131 --> 00:47:34,991

And, uh, there, so there are a few, the

type of comedy that it is, there's a

: 1196

00:47:34,991 --> 00:47:38,271

lot of like setups and quick payoffs.

: 1197

00:47:38,611 --> 00:47:38,831

So

: 1198

00:47:39,651 --> 00:47:44,871

at first Martin is telling his wife about

this and she's like, are you kidding?

: 1199

00:47:45,291 --> 00:47:47,511

You know, they're, they're

kind of stuffy people.

: 1200

00:47:47,661 --> 00:47:52,391

Like they're upper middle class

suburban Chicago, like they both

: 1201

00:47:52,421 --> 00:47:55,871

have careers and she's like that.

: 1202

00:47:56,091 --> 00:47:56,311

No.

: 1203

00:47:56,681 --> 00:47:59,471

First of all, we'll be

spontaneous when we have time.

: 1204

00:47:59,611 --> 00:48:01,991

So that's like the type of

people that, that they are.

: 1205

00:48:02,371 --> 00:48:09,431

And then they, it's set up for us that

nothing that anybody does or says will

: 1206

00:48:09,431 --> 00:48:16,801

change my mind in walks the 16-year-old

daughter, I'm engaged and then cut

: 1207

00:48:16,901 --> 00:48:23,881

to like, that's the thing, cut to

them in Saint Palmier, Saint Potato.

: 1208

00:48:24,881 --> 00:48:29,251

Shannon: Potato Yep.

: 1209

00:48:29,822 --> 00:48:30,962

Katie: And the the boat.

: 1210

00:48:32,342 --> 00:48:37,162

So obviously it's not the picture that

he received, it's like super rundown.

: 1211

00:48:38,102 --> 00:48:42,802

And over the course of their adventure,

of course they're fixing it up,

: 1212

00:48:42,802 --> 00:48:45,002

polishing it up, making it look nice.

: 1213

00:48:45,382 --> 00:48:50,082

And I don't think, obviously I

don't know anything about boats,

: 1214

00:48:50,222 --> 00:48:54,482

but it seems like it's two separate

boats, even in the style of boat.

: 1215

00:48:54,792 --> 00:48:58,602

Like the first one looked like

a tugboat, not a sailboat.

: 1216

00:48:59,302 --> 00:49:00,402

Did you have that thought at all?

: 1217

00:49:00,432 --> 00:49:02,442

Like that the boats didn't

even seem like the same type.

: 1218

00:49:03,862 --> 00:49:06,662

Shannon: Absolutely when she holds

up the picture and she, you know, of

: 1219

00:49:06,662 --> 00:49:08,382

course that's the comedic element.

: 1220

00:49:08,512 --> 00:49:09,222

She's looking at

: 1221

00:49:09,222 --> 00:49:12,102

the picture and then she's looking

at the boat and it's not, you're

: 1222

00:49:12,102 --> 00:49:13,462

right, it looked like a tugboat.

: 1223

00:49:13,462 --> 00:49:15,342

It looked like a tugboat

that's seen better days.

: 1224

00:49:15,842 --> 00:49:16,422

Uh, I think

: 1225

00:49:16,422 --> 00:49:19,742

it's also important to mention that this

boat was from the Clark Gable Estate.

: 1226

00:49:20,442 --> 00:49:20,662

Um,

: 1227

00:49:21,402 --> 00:49:25,382

and so, yeah, and so that's why the

family thought, oh, this is going

: 1228

00:49:25,382 --> 00:49:29,342

to be our, our money shot, so to

speak, soon as we can sell this boat

: 1229

00:49:29,402 --> 00:49:33,462

and pay off debt and get out from

under our house and things like that.

: 1230

00:49:33,962 --> 00:49:38,662

Um, so of course again, the

nineties comedy is that it's

: 1231

00:49:38,682 --> 00:49:41,742

not a beautiful sailboat that

they're gonna be able to sell.

: 1232

00:49:42,052 --> 00:49:43,062

It's a piece of junk.

: 1233

00:49:44,722 --> 00:49:51,062

Katie: It is, and I forgot to offer

a reminder description for those

: 1234

00:49:51,062 --> 00:49:54,792

of you who haven't seen this in 30

years, so I will quickly do that now.

: 1235

00:49:55,602 --> 00:49:59,167

When Martin and Catherine Harvey

and their two children, Carolyn and

: 1236

00:49:59,267 --> 00:50:03,807

Ben, inherit a yacht, formerly owned

by Clark Gable, they embark on a

: 1237

00:50:03,807 --> 00:50:07,887

hilarious oceanic adventure sailing

through the waters of the Caribbean.

: 1238

00:50:08,237 --> 00:50:13,687

With help from the dubious, yet charming

Captain Ron, who leads them into some

: 1239

00:50:13,887 --> 00:50:19,887

outrageously wild situations, their

lives will never be the same again.

: 1240

00:50:21,031 --> 00:50:23,611

So it, it's situation after

situation after situation.

: 1241

00:50:23,611 --> 00:50:25,131

And I think that's why it felt long,

: 1242

00:50:26,221 --> 00:50:26,441

Shannon: Yes.

: 1243

00:50:26,561 --> 00:50:30,391

A lot of, yes, very situational,

uh, situational comedy attempts.

: 1244

00:50:30,924 --> 00:50:31,344

Katie: Mm-Hmm.

: 1245

00:50:32,114 --> 00:50:36,784

I do quite like, so Ron, captain Ron.

: 1246

00:50:37,974 --> 00:50:41,674

So, like I said there, I do appreciate

the little payoffs that he does,

: 1247

00:50:42,374 --> 00:50:45,394

and I appreciate that he allows

himself, like he doesn't have a,

: 1248

00:50:45,454 --> 00:50:49,594

an ego so big that he won't allow

himself to be seen in a silly way.

: 1249

00:50:50,224 --> 00:50:51,434

Like, he doesn't look good.

: 1250

00:50:51,434 --> 00:50:52,554

He wears a speedo.

: 1251

00:50:53,874 --> 00:50:55,614

Uh, nobody looks good in a speedo.

: 1252

00:50:55,934 --> 00:50:59,854

Everyone out there no one, no one

looks good in ESP Speedo, I swear.

: 1253

00:51:00,594 --> 00:51:04,734

But, um, he gives them, he's very quirky.

: 1254

00:51:05,394 --> 00:51:08,974

He immediately meets the family

and gives them a different

: 1255

00:51:09,214 --> 00:51:10,854

nickname than what their name is.

: 1256

00:51:11,114 --> 00:51:13,694

So Marty is boss.

: 1257

00:51:15,084 --> 00:51:20,244

Catherine is immediately Kitty,

the daughter is somehow babe,

: 1258

00:51:20,434 --> 00:51:21,404

that must've been a thing.

: 1259

00:51:22,484 --> 00:51:27,834

And the little boy is swab,

which is a sailor term, right?

: 1260

00:51:29,114 --> 00:51:30,604

Like a low man on the totem

: 1261

00:51:30,684 --> 00:51:31,414

Shannon: Swab the deck.

: 1262

00:51:31,604 --> 00:51:31,894

Yeah.

: 1263

00:51:31,924 --> 00:51:32,654

That it's in

: 1264

00:51:32,854 --> 00:51:34,494

reference to you swab the deck here.

: 1265

00:51:34,494 --> 00:51:34,734

Yeah.

: 1266

00:51:35,521 --> 00:51:38,861

But you said, you know, one thing

stood out, you said dubious character

: 1267

00:51:38,921 --> 00:51:44,461

and, and I, I think that was the

intention of the director writers to

: 1268

00:51:44,461 --> 00:51:48,661

present this, to present Captain Ron as

somebody that maybe can't be trusted.

: 1269

00:51:49,021 --> 00:51:50,141

I never got that during the movie.

: 1270

00:51:50,301 --> 00:51:51,821

I find him to be very likable.

: 1271

00:51:52,381 --> 00:51:55,901

I find Martin Schwartz character to

be insecure and jealous, which is,

: 1272

00:51:56,321 --> 00:51:57,741

you know, part of the plot line.

: 1273

00:51:58,241 --> 00:52:00,701

Um, and that's why he is

building up resentment and

: 1274

00:52:00,901 --> 00:52:02,021

animosity towards Captain Ron.

: 1275

00:52:02,481 --> 00:52:06,861

But I did not think at

any point was he there to.

: 1276

00:52:07,751 --> 00:52:12,011

Insert himself into this family

unit as the father, as the,

: 1277

00:52:12,551 --> 00:52:15,811

the captain of the ship and was

gonna go home with the family.

: 1278

00:52:15,951 --> 00:52:18,811

And, you know, Martin, the

father could stay in St.

: 1279

00:52:18,811 --> 00:52:19,211

Potato.

: 1280

00:52:19,791 --> 00:52:24,851

Um, so that's where I, I never found

him to be a questionable character

: 1281

00:52:24,851 --> 00:52:26,171

that anybody should be wary of.

: 1282

00:52:27,911 --> 00:52:28,401

Just kind

: 1283

00:52:28,561 --> 00:52:29,401

of a goofy ad

: 1284

00:52:29,491 --> 00:52:33,011

Katie: And I He is, but he gets them lost.

: 1285

00:52:33,311 --> 00:52:39,011

He doesn't like there, it's questionable

in the eyes of Martin as he writes in his

: 1286

00:52:39,541 --> 00:52:42,331

diary, so to, you're absolutely right.

: 1287

00:52:42,401 --> 00:52:43,851

It's very in that way.

: 1288

00:52:44,641 --> 00:52:47,331

Like, what about Bob esque?

: 1289

00:52:47,801 --> 00:52:48,091

Like

: 1290

00:52:48,971 --> 00:52:50,391

Shannon: The unreliable, yes.

: 1291

00:52:50,491 --> 00:52:51,911

The unreliable narrator.

: 1292

00:52:52,451 --> 00:52:53,151

Um, Dr.

: 1293

00:52:53,251 --> 00:52:57,031

Leo Marvin is an unreliable narrator

because of how he feels about Bob.

: 1294

00:52:57,031 --> 00:53:01,191

And that's, you're very right that

we're getting Martin's perspective.

: 1295

00:53:01,931 --> 00:53:02,151

Um,

: 1296

00:53:02,691 --> 00:53:04,271

so it's, it's somewhat unreliable.

: 1297

00:53:06,091 --> 00:53:06,311

Katie: yes.

: 1298

00:53:06,691 --> 00:53:12,351

But, but in a sim, like there's a series

of mishaps that either shows Martin in

: 1299

00:53:12,351 --> 00:53:16,511

a bad way or hurts Martin, but the rest

of the family isn't seeing, they're

: 1300

00:53:16,511 --> 00:53:19,031

just, they're more endeared each time.

: 1301

00:53:20,831 --> 00:53:22,011

To Captain Ron.

: 1302

00:53:22,831 --> 00:53:27,331

Um, and like, yeah, so Marty

Martin is getting jealous.

: 1303

00:53:27,521 --> 00:53:32,181

Like, oh, he is in a speedo

standing behind his wife, like

: 1304

00:53:32,501 --> 00:53:34,061

teaching her to, to drive the boat.

: 1305

00:53:34,361 --> 00:53:42,141

And, you know, the, the sun when they

get to San Juan is, it's like all of

: 1306

00:53:42,141 --> 00:53:48,501

Captain Ron has rubbed off on Ben because

he shows up to that carnival party and

: 1307

00:53:48,501 --> 00:53:50,941

looking like a mini me or mini Ron.

: 1308

00:53:51,641 --> 00:53:54,621

So it's, I just, I was like,

this is very, what about Bobby?

: 1309

00:53:55,481 --> 00:54:00,021

But then what, what is quite lovely

about the movie, they just, it

: 1310

00:54:00,021 --> 00:54:01,021

needed to be a little tighter.

: 1311

00:54:01,241 --> 00:54:02,501

Is that, that's paid off

: 1312

00:54:03,441 --> 00:54:08,941

Ron, captain Ron does do the right

thing in seeing that that's what

: 1313

00:54:08,941 --> 00:54:11,021

he was unintentionally doing.

: 1314

00:54:11,841 --> 00:54:16,811

And then he helps Martin become

the hero at, you know, in the end.

: 1315

00:54:17,071 --> 00:54:17,291

So.

: 1316

00:54:18,621 --> 00:54:20,001

Shannon: And you're

absolutely right about that.

: 1317

00:54:20,061 --> 00:54:20,481

Mm-Hmm.

: 1318

00:54:21,164 --> 00:54:21,384

He

: 1319

00:54:21,384 --> 00:54:21,544

does.

: 1320

00:54:21,574 --> 00:54:21,864

Yeah.

: 1321

00:54:21,924 --> 00:54:22,344

He helps.

: 1322

00:54:22,414 --> 00:54:25,944

Yeah, he helps his family and, and Martin

to see himself, I think more so Martin,

: 1323

00:54:25,964 --> 00:54:27,104

to see himself in a different light.

: 1324

00:54:27,104 --> 00:54:30,864

Maybe not his family, but Martin

just is, um, given the confident,

: 1325

00:54:30,884 --> 00:54:34,664

the ability to be confident because

Captain Ron allows him to be.

: 1326

00:54:34,724 --> 00:54:35,144

Mm-Hmm.

: 1327

00:54:36,774 --> 00:54:36,994

Katie: yes.

: 1328

00:54:37,574 --> 00:54:40,794

And over the course, I mean, again,

this is very typical of this type of a

: 1329

00:54:40,794 --> 00:54:42,394

movie, but there's all these mishaps.

: 1330

00:54:42,394 --> 00:54:46,074

It's not what they thought it was gonna

be, who there's this wild and crazy guy.

: 1331

00:54:47,274 --> 00:54:52,054

But over the course of their adventure,

they do learn how to sail properly,

: 1332

00:54:52,304 --> 00:54:58,134

which pays off momentarily when they

have to get away from the pirates

: 1333

00:54:58,134 --> 00:54:59,894

or their, their ship is stolen.

: 1334

00:55:00,634 --> 00:55:01,534

So Ron is right.

: 1335

00:55:01,594 --> 00:55:06,214

He keeps saying like, oh, pirates of

the Caribbean, Martin's, like, there's

: 1336

00:55:06,214 --> 00:55:10,414

no such thing cut too, their boat

being stolen and they're on a raft.

: 1337

00:55:11,234 --> 00:55:12,264

Stand up in Cuba.

: 1338

00:55:14,169 --> 00:55:17,334

So that's, then their boat happens to

also be there, so they steal it back

: 1339

00:55:17,914 --> 00:55:22,854

and Captain Ron helps them do that in

a 57 Chevy, which was pretty awesome.

: 1340

00:55:23,394 --> 00:55:28,634

I love the, the old cars from, you know,

in Cuba 'cause of the embargo and stuff.

: 1341

00:55:29,214 --> 00:55:33,154

, but then Martin forgets to put

oil in the boat so the engine dies

: 1342

00:55:33,154 --> 00:55:37,754

and they actually have to, to get

away, use their sailing skills.

: 1343

00:55:38,014 --> 00:55:42,004

And at this time Ron has faked an injury.

: 1344

00:55:42,184 --> 00:55:45,284

He tells them that he broke

his leg, so he can't help.

: 1345

00:55:45,584 --> 00:55:47,124

Martin has to save the day.

: 1346

00:55:47,504 --> 00:55:48,324

And he does.

: 1347

00:55:49,554 --> 00:55:56,384

Meanwhile, I mean, yeah, I mean he

does, but also Ron does secretly

: 1348

00:55:56,574 --> 00:56:00,504

call, , for help , and he's like,

Mayday mayday to the Coast Guard.

: 1349

00:56:01,424 --> 00:56:05,594

Shannon: That ending speaking of, was

very reminiscent of overboard with the

: 1350

00:56:05,594 --> 00:56:08,034

Coast Guard coming and, and, you know,

: 1351

00:56:08,864 --> 00:56:09,084

Katie: Yes.

: 1352

00:56:11,184 --> 00:56:14,434

Shannon: soon see gold jumping

overboard in her gold dress.

: 1353

00:56:17,934 --> 00:56:18,494

Katie: Katerina.

: 1354

00:56:20,094 --> 00:56:20,314

Yep.

: 1355

00:56:21,434 --> 00:56:24,134

Shannon: It, there was some

me images going on with that

: 1356

00:56:24,134 --> 00:56:24,414

ending.

: 1357

00:56:24,634 --> 00:56:26,254

Um, but it was, yeah, it did end.

: 1358

00:56:26,254 --> 00:56:27,214

There was a payoff.

: 1359

00:56:28,644 --> 00:56:30,834

Katie: There was a, this

is one of those movies.

: 1360

00:56:32,454 --> 00:56:33,264

What was the other one?

: 1361

00:56:33,264 --> 00:56:38,284

It's where it reminiscent, um, I

wanna say Backdraft, where the ending,

: 1362

00:56:38,624 --> 00:56:40,924

it was like a series of endings.

: 1363

00:56:41,024 --> 00:56:44,084

Not just one ending, but it was

like, oh, we thought we got the end.

: 1364

00:56:44,104 --> 00:56:45,124

Oh, we thought we got the end.

: 1365

00:56:45,144 --> 00:56:48,604

Oh, we thought I might be thinking

of the wrong movie, but I know I've

: 1366

00:56:48,604 --> 00:56:49,644

covered another movie like that.

: 1367

00:56:49,744 --> 00:56:50,164

So, yeah.

: 1368

00:56:50,344 --> 00:56:57,404

So then there's this heartfelt

goodbye to Captain Ron.

: 1369

00:56:57,424 --> 00:57:00,844

He can finally come back to the US

because of the statute of limitations

: 1370

00:57:01,024 --> 00:57:05,164

has expired for, you know, whatever

he has done in the US up until then.

: 1371

00:57:06,604 --> 00:57:07,734

Then he disappears.

: 1372

00:57:08,614 --> 00:57:12,404

Then we see the family, or no.

: 1373

00:57:12,404 --> 00:57:13,764

First we see Captain Ron.

: 1374

00:57:13,774 --> 00:57:14,124

Right

: 1375

00:57:14,644 --> 00:57:15,064

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

: 1376

00:57:15,214 --> 00:57:19,024

Katie: now he's with a new couple, right?

: 1377

00:57:19,694 --> 00:57:23,824

Shannon: very and very Miami

esque in his ponytail and his

: 1378

00:57:23,824 --> 00:57:26,784

Miami vice suit that he has on.

: 1379

00:57:27,334 --> 00:57:27,624

Yeah.

: 1380

00:57:27,924 --> 00:57:32,864

Within within hours, he's embraced

the Miami Vice Miami vibe and has

: 1381

00:57:32,864 --> 00:57:34,784

found this new couple, I mean,

it's literally within hours.

: 1382

00:57:37,404 --> 00:57:37,694

Katie: Yeah.

: 1383

00:57:37,854 --> 00:57:41,454

I , I don't, I guess I hadn't put it

together that this is supposed to be the

: 1384

00:57:41,454 --> 00:57:43,494

same day, or, or if this is meant to be.

: 1385

00:57:45,014 --> 00:57:45,454

I don't know.

: 1386

00:57:45,574 --> 00:57:46,174

Either way.

: 1387

00:57:46,174 --> 00:57:46,574

You're right.

: 1388

00:57:46,804 --> 00:57:51,574

He's cleaned up at, at least we,

he's not, he's cleaned up his look.

: 1389

00:57:51,574 --> 00:57:52,814

He doesn't have the eye patch anymore.

: 1390

00:57:52,874 --> 00:57:53,774

He just has sunglasses.

: 1391

00:57:53,954 --> 00:57:54,814

He looks nicer,

: 1392

00:57:55,754 --> 00:57:56,174

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

: 1393

00:57:56,214 --> 00:57:59,174

Katie: he starts in, it's kind

of cute because we see him

: 1394

00:58:00,049 --> 00:58:03,519

Doing the same things that

we saw him do when he first

: 1395

00:58:03,729 --> 00:58:05,399

first meets the Harvey family.

: 1396

00:58:06,179 --> 00:58:10,279

He like, um, the husband says

something like, oh, Barbara, do

: 1397

00:58:10,279 --> 00:58:11,959

you think we'll be able to do that?

: 1398

00:58:12,099 --> 00:58:15,759

One day, Ron, captain Ron meets

her and he is like, Hey, Babs.

: 1399

00:58:16,139 --> 00:58:18,679

You know, so he immediately

does the nickname

: 1400

00:58:19,174 --> 00:58:19,414

Shannon: nickname.

: 1401

00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:25,569

Katie: Then the family, to your point

earlier, they're pulling into Miami

: 1402

00:58:27,489 --> 00:58:29,749

and they're like, how about we don't,

: 1403

00:58:30,564 --> 00:58:30,854

Shannon: Yeah.

: 1404

00:58:32,949 --> 00:58:35,209

Katie: we, they're just continuing

their adventure forever.

: 1405

00:58:36,279 --> 00:58:39,199

Shannon: I guess so their

children's education be damned,

: 1406

00:58:39,339 --> 00:58:40,479

but also they have jobs.

: 1407

00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:41,639

I mean, I don't,

: 1408

00:58:42,359 --> 00:58:45,159

get the sense that they were, yeah,

they've gotta have, they're not

: 1409

00:58:45,439 --> 00:58:50,359

independently wealthy in the fact that

part of the first, uh, scene of the

: 1410

00:58:50,359 --> 00:58:53,159

movie is, oh, we can sell this boat

and pay off the credit card bills and

: 1411

00:58:53,159 --> 00:58:54,519

get out from under the second mortgage.

: 1412

00:58:54,979 --> 00:58:58,679

So that gives me the impression

that these PE are not people

: 1413

00:58:58,699 --> 00:59:00,799

who have a nest egg and can live

: 1414

00:59:02,454 --> 00:59:02,654

Katie: No,

: 1415

00:59:02,739 --> 00:59:03,999

Shannon: on a boat not working.

: 1416

00:59:04,459 --> 00:59:06,679

And remote work is not a thing yet.

: 1417

00:59:07,279 --> 00:59:07,439

Audience.

: 1418

00:59:07,739 --> 00:59:13,079

Um, so they're not, they're not

spending time on a computer down below

: 1419

00:59:13,789 --> 00:59:16,039

four hours a day, seven days a week.

: 1420

00:59:16,339 --> 00:59:19,639

Uh, so yeah, so there, there

was some inconsistencies in

: 1421

00:59:19,639 --> 00:59:23,319

the ending, but whatever, you

know, it's, it, it ended happy.

: 1422

00:59:25,004 --> 00:59:29,094

Katie: It's a great, to that point,

I actually, so I'm not usually

: 1423

00:59:29,204 --> 00:59:34,214

like all in favor of a sequel,

but it was a great movie ending.

: 1424

00:59:35,114 --> 00:59:38,454

But I think what we needed

was a sequel to this.

: 1425

00:59:38,484 --> 00:59:41,374

Obviously it lost money, so

that's why they didn't, but I'd

: 1426

00:59:41,374 --> 00:59:45,494

really like to see what they're

up to now as well as Captain Ron.

: 1427

00:59:45,514 --> 00:59:48,854

Do they somehow run into each other

and get up to more adventure together?

: 1428

00:59:48,884 --> 00:59:52,534

Like I wanna see what the six

months later picture looks like.

: 1429

00:59:54,459 --> 00:59:54,749

Shannon: Yeah.

: 1430

00:59:54,849 --> 00:59:59,069

You know, maybe Captain Ron is being

pursued by the Cuban militia and now

: 1431

00:59:59,209 --> 01:00:01,669

the Harvey family has to save him.

: 1432

01:00:01,729 --> 01:00:03,189

And Hi, jinx and Sue.

: 1433

01:00:03,889 --> 01:00:05,749

Um, Katie.

: 1434

01:00:05,779 --> 01:00:09,189

Well, there, there's our opening,

there's a, there's our opening for

: 1435

01:00:09,434 --> 01:00:10,264

Katie: Start writing it.

: 1436

01:00:10,264 --> 01:00:10,544

Shannon.

: 1437

01:00:10,674 --> 01:00:11,624

Let's get this down.

: 1438

01:00:12,644 --> 01:00:13,784

Hey, studio execs.

: 1439

01:00:13,784 --> 01:00:16,024

Do you remember that movie

from: 1992

: 1440

01:00:16,334 --> 01:00:18,144

Well, we've got a sequel to it.

: 1441

01:00:21,874 --> 01:00:26,174

Shannon: We are gonna totally

redeem all of you and make this the

: 1442

01:00:26,174 --> 01:00:27,734

blockbuster that you anticipated

: 1443

01:00:28,784 --> 01:00:29,004

Katie: Yep.

: 1444

01:00:30,014 --> 01:00:30,784

Shannon: It's like if somebody

: 1445

01:00:30,784 --> 01:00:32,224

wrote a sequel to Titanic.

: 1446

01:00:33,464 --> 01:00:33,754

Katie: yeah.

: 1447

01:00:36,384 --> 01:00:41,834

, well, I don't about that, but

it, it was actually filmed in

: 1448

01:00:41,834 --> 01:00:44,834

Puerto Rico and Chicago, and

I do appreciate those touches.

: 1449

01:00:45,294 --> 01:00:46,514

That's probably why it costs money,

: 1450

01:00:47,164 --> 01:00:47,584

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

: 1451

01:00:47,664 --> 01:00:49,114

Katie: like cost 24 million, but.

: 1452

01:00:51,584 --> 01:00:58,184

The film had, so Captain Ron was not its

original title originally it was Martin

: 1453

01:00:58,184 --> 01:01:00,704

Harvey takes a cruise, which is awful.

: 1454

01:01:01,324 --> 01:01:02,624

So that's terrible.

: 1455

01:01:03,334 --> 01:01:07,544

Then don't rock the boat,

which would've been okay.

: 1456

01:01:08,204 --> 01:01:15,784

And the then also on the wanderer before

it was finally released as Captain Ron.

: 1457

01:01:15,804 --> 01:01:16,224

Mm-Hmm.

: 1458

01:01:17,284 --> 01:01:18,374

Shannon: they made the right choice.

: 1459

01:01:19,631 --> 01:01:20,111

Katie: I agree.

: 1460

01:01:20,421 --> 01:01:27,221

Shannon, did you know that this

was the third, this is one of,

: 1461

01:01:27,241 --> 01:01:32,141

it wasn't the third one of three

movies where Kurt Russell Dawns and

: 1462

01:01:32,261 --> 01:01:33,941

Eye Patch, were you aware of that?

: 1463

01:01:35,451 --> 01:01:36,491

Shannon: I was not aware of that.

: 1464

01:01:36,681 --> 01:01:37,771

What were the other two?

: 1465

01:01:40,251 --> 01:01:43,351

Katie: Escape From New York,

which is a pretty famous movie

: 1466

01:01:43,931 --> 01:01:44,351

and his.

: 1467

01:01:45,281 --> 01:01:46,251

Then it's sequel.

: 1468

01:01:46,511 --> 01:01:49,131

So that was from: 1981

escape from New York.

: 1469

01:01:49,551 --> 01:01:51,971

He and his character's

name is Snake Polskin.

: 1470

01:01:52,591 --> 01:02:00,221

He reprises his role as Snake Polskin

in the sequel from 96 Escape from LA and

: 1471

01:02:00,251 --> 01:02:01,011

Shannon: do remember those movies.

: 1472

01:02:01,621 --> 01:02:03,491

Never saw them, but I do remember them.

: 1473

01:02:03,611 --> 01:02:03,891

I did.

: 1474

01:02:04,051 --> 01:02:06,051

I did not know he wore an eye patch.

: 1475

01:02:07,356 --> 01:02:10,456

And what's, I think when you asked

me earlier like, you know what I

: 1476

01:02:10,456 --> 01:02:12,896

thought about this movie and I was

talking about laugh Out loud moments.

: 1477

01:02:13,436 --> 01:02:16,976

The first time I laughed out loud

in watching this movie, um, again,

: 1478

01:02:17,116 --> 01:02:23,016

was when he's sleeping and he

had moved the iPad, so it's his,

: 1479

01:02:23,211 --> 01:02:23,431

Katie: Yes.

: 1480

01:02:26,596 --> 01:02:27,296

Shannon: and so

: 1481

01:02:27,301 --> 01:02:27,861

Katie: he's dead

: 1482

01:02:28,656 --> 01:02:28,946

Shannon: he's

: 1483

01:02:29,181 --> 01:02:30,671

Katie: because his glass eye.

: 1484

01:02:32,476 --> 01:02:37,296

Shannon: But as a child, I remember

thinking that the joke was that he

: 1485

01:02:37,296 --> 01:02:42,396

slept with his eyes open, thinking

about the glass eye He was like,

: 1486

01:02:42,496 --> 01:02:43,556

he slept with his eyes open.

: 1487

01:02:43,616 --> 01:02:44,956

And that's the joke, you know,

: 1488

01:02:47,111 --> 01:02:47,331

Katie: No.

: 1489

01:02:47,921 --> 01:02:52,411

Also, I did quite enjoy the shower

scene that they get stuck in the

: 1490

01:02:52,411 --> 01:02:52,651

shower

: 1491

01:02:52,816 --> 01:02:54,496

Shannon: yeah, that's a little bit racy.

: 1492

01:02:54,546 --> 01:02:55,256

There was some

: 1493

01:02:55,291 --> 01:02:55,451

Katie: cute.

: 1494

01:02:55,616 --> 01:02:57,336

Shannon: in That If you

look close, there was

: 1495

01:02:57,336 --> 01:02:57,856

some nudity.

: 1496

01:02:58,261 --> 01:02:58,541

Katie: nudity.

: 1497

01:02:59,096 --> 01:02:59,386

Shannon: Yeah,

: 1498

01:02:59,561 --> 01:02:59,851

Katie: Yeah.

: 1499

01:02:59,911 --> 01:03:00,651

What's her face?

: 1500

01:03:00,921 --> 01:03:01,211

Yeah.

: 1501

01:03:01,606 --> 01:03:02,066

Shannon: she, yeah.

: 1502

01:03:02,126 --> 01:03:03,226

And I'm like, what is this?

: 1503

01:03:03,246 --> 01:03:03,906

Is this pg?

: 1504

01:03:03,906 --> 01:03:05,026

Or, but you said PG 13.

: 1505

01:03:05,126 --> 01:03:05,346

So.

: 1506

01:03:07,051 --> 01:03:07,271

Katie: Yep.

: 1507

01:03:07,691 --> 01:03:07,911

PG

: 1508

01:03:08,086 --> 01:03:09,106

Shannon: it was not overt.

: 1509

01:03:09,286 --> 01:03:10,386

Um, but it was there.

: 1510

01:03:10,416 --> 01:03:11,946

That was a funny scene though as well.

: 1511

01:03:12,646 --> 01:03:15,546

Martin Short does slapstick

physical comedy pretty well.

: 1512

01:03:15,586 --> 01:03:18,506

I think that goes back to

his, like at Grimly Days.

: 1513

01:03:20,024 --> 01:03:24,764

Katie: He, he does, and it, he was

pretty big at this time, right?

: 1514

01:03:24,764 --> 01:03:29,524

This was his, like late eighties, early

nineties, was at Martin Short's time

: 1515

01:03:30,159 --> 01:03:30,679

Shannon: I think so.

: 1516

01:03:30,759 --> 01:03:35,399

I mean, he wasn't on Saturday Night

Live anymore, um, because he, he

: 1517

01:03:35,399 --> 01:03:36,799

did a stint on Saturday Night Live.

: 1518

01:03:36,799 --> 01:03:37,038

Right?

: 1519

01:03:37,239 --> 01:03:37,679

I, yeah.

: 1520

01:03:39,304 --> 01:03:39,663

Katie: I think so.

: 1521

01:03:40,519 --> 01:03:40,809

Shannon: Yeah.

: 1522

01:03:41,469 --> 01:03:44,729

Um, but he also did a movie,

and I don't know if you've ever

: 1523

01:03:44,729 --> 01:03:47,769

seen it, but I think it's around

this time, um, called Clifford.

: 1524

01:03:48,319 --> 01:03:51,329

Have you ever seen that movie

where he plays a 12-year-old boy?

: 1525

01:03:53,219 --> 01:03:54,139

I, I encourage

: 1526

01:03:54,139 --> 01:03:54,579

you to watch that

: 1527

01:03:54,663 --> 01:03:54,954

Katie: that

: 1528

01:03:55,174 --> 01:03:56,074

sounds familiar.

: 1529

01:03:56,334 --> 01:03:57,194

It sounds familiar.

: 1530

01:03:57,334 --> 01:03:57,754

Mm-Hmm.

: 1531

01:03:57,999 --> 01:03:58,288

Shannon: Yeah.

: 1532

01:03:58,524 --> 01:03:59,184

Katie: But I don't,

: 1533

01:03:59,479 --> 01:04:01,609

Shannon: Charles Groden is in it.

: 1534

01:04:01,788 --> 01:04:05,369

He plays, he plays his uncle

and Mary Steenburgen is in it.

: 1535

01:04:05,709 --> 01:04:05,929

Um,

: 1536

01:04:06,894 --> 01:04:07,274

Katie: Oh, I

: 1537

01:04:07,389 --> 01:04:08,649

Shannon: is it, yeah.

: 1538

01:04:08,939 --> 01:04:12,569

Again, one of those movies that

when I was like 11, 12 would've

: 1539

01:04:12,569 --> 01:04:14,329

watched over and over as an adult.

: 1540

01:04:14,389 --> 01:04:16,449

I'm curious to see how

I would react to it.

: 1541

01:04:16,469 --> 01:04:19,529

So maybe I need to pop that, find

that video cassette somewhere

: 1542

01:04:19,529 --> 01:04:21,209

around here and pop it into the vcr.

: 1543

01:04:21,744 --> 01:04:26,224

Katie: I . I bet it's not as great as you

remember that, that that happens a lot.

: 1544

01:04:27,229 --> 01:04:27,519

Shannon: yeah.

: 1545

01:04:27,904 --> 01:04:32,284

Katie: One of the things that I found

fascinating get this, according to John

: 1546

01:04:32,334 --> 01:04:34,364

Dwyer, one of the movie's, screenwriters.

: 1547

01:04:35,288 --> 01:04:40,788

Martin Short was originally cast

as Captain Ron and Kurt Russell was

: 1548

01:04:40,949 --> 01:04:42,149

supposed to play the family man.

: 1549

01:04:42,849 --> 01:04:47,869

But this again, this is according to

John Dwyer short, and Russell got drunk

: 1550

01:04:47,889 --> 01:04:49,469

one night and decided to switch roles.

: 1551

01:04:49,869 --> 01:04:53,509

I don't know how true that is,

but i's what John Dwyer said.

: 1552

01:04:54,284 --> 01:04:54,504

Shannon: It

: 1553

01:04:54,504 --> 01:04:56,064

would've been a, yeah.

: 1554

01:04:56,074 --> 01:04:57,424

Completely different movie.

: 1555

01:04:57,704 --> 01:05:01,024

'cause I don't feel like Morton

Short has any sex appeal whatsoever.

: 1556

01:05:01,163 --> 01:05:02,384

And that was part of the

: 1557

01:05:02,454 --> 01:05:04,504

storyline of Captain Ron

: 1558

01:05:04,509 --> 01:05:04,799

Katie: Yeah.

: 1559

01:05:05,029 --> 01:05:05,319

Yeah.

: 1560

01:05:05,904 --> 01:05:07,304

Shannon: I mean, a big

part of the storyline.

: 1561

01:05:07,804 --> 01:05:08,784

It would've been highly

: 1562

01:05:09,264 --> 01:05:09,704

unbelievable.

: 1563

01:05:10,634 --> 01:05:10,924

Yeah.

: 1564

01:05:12,834 --> 01:05:14,364

Clarice, or whatever her name is,

: 1565

01:05:14,904 --> 01:05:16,324

It would've been a very different movie.

: 1566

01:05:16,464 --> 01:05:21,244

And, and I, I know I, they would've really

have had to pull out, put out their acting

: 1567

01:05:21,374 --> 01:05:23,524

chops to make people believe that I.

: 1568

01:05:23,649 --> 01:05:29,554

Martin Short was the, the stud

and Kurt Russell was the, you, you

: 1569

01:05:29,554 --> 01:05:31,994

know, the mild mannered

suburbanite, husband

: 1570

01:05:33,269 --> 01:05:33,559

Katie: Yeah.

: 1571

01:05:35,129 --> 01:05:39,859

Also, um, what we talked about on the

show actually is, so Kurt Russell and

: 1572

01:05:39,969 --> 01:05:43,699

John Carpenter, the director, John

Carpenter, they have one of those

: 1573

01:05:43,699 --> 01:05:47,339

relationships like a De Niro, Scorsese,

you know, they do a lot of movies

: 1574

01:05:48,044 --> 01:05:48,464

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

: 1575

01:05:49,038 --> 01:05:53,224

Katie: Well, when Kurt Russell was

cast to do this, apparently John

: 1576

01:05:53,224 --> 01:05:58,609

Carpenter was nearly called into direct,

um, because he really likes Kurt.

: 1577

01:05:58,949 --> 01:06:03,769

But he admits that he would've said yes,

but mostly just to shoot in the Caribbean.

: 1578

01:06:03,839 --> 01:06:05,889

Like he had no interest in

making the movie other than

: 1579

01:06:05,889 --> 01:06:07,689

that . But he did not direct

: 1580

01:06:09,954 --> 01:06:10,194

Shannon: Interesting.

: 1581

01:06:10,404 --> 01:06:11,634

Again, a very different movie.

: 1582

01:06:11,774 --> 01:06:12,034

I'm sure.

: 1583

01:06:13,439 --> 01:06:15,579

Katie: It would've been, I wonder, yeah.

: 1584

01:06:15,959 --> 01:06:18,538

Now I wonder if, I wonder

: 1585

01:06:18,538 --> 01:06:19,569

Shannon: Maybe more action.

: 1586

01:06:19,799 --> 01:06:20,089

More.

: 1587

01:06:20,089 --> 01:06:20,329

Yeah.

: 1588

01:06:20,329 --> 01:06:21,169

It could have been, there

: 1589

01:06:21,169 --> 01:06:23,729

might have been more action, um, in the

: 1590

01:06:23,799 --> 01:06:24,969

Katie: Well, there was a lot of action.

: 1591

01:06:24,989 --> 01:06:26,449

It was like boom, boom, boom.

: 1592

01:06:27,249 --> 01:06:27,538

Shannon: yeah.

: 1593

01:06:27,769 --> 01:06:28,059

Yeah.

: 1594

01:06:28,139 --> 01:06:28,538

I mean, when

: 1595

01:06:28,538 --> 01:06:31,819

you got, when you finally got to the

part where they were hijacked by the

: 1596

01:06:31,849 --> 01:06:34,459

pirates or the, um, the gorillas.

: 1597

01:06:35,038 --> 01:06:41,029

Uh, but I guess, yeah, um, as far,

I, I just feel like maybe there

: 1598

01:06:41,029 --> 01:06:45,349

would've been more chase scenes or

things like that if, if Carpenter had

: 1599

01:06:45,629 --> 01:06:46,709

directed it, but I could be wrong.

: 1600

01:06:48,434 --> 01:06:52,694

Katie: No, that's a good point that

speaking of the gorillas, I freaking

: 1601

01:06:53,099 --> 01:06:53,179

Shannon: actually

: 1602

01:06:53,224 --> 01:06:53,974

Katie: loved that.

: 1603

01:06:55,559 --> 01:06:56,179

Shannon: that's the funny

: 1604

01:06:56,234 --> 01:06:59,884

Katie: It's not gorillas, gorillas.

: 1605

01:07:01,794 --> 01:07:03,884

It's like, hey, uh,

stay on the path there.

: 1606

01:07:03,934 --> 01:07:05,764

Watch out for the, watch

out for the gorillas.

: 1607

01:07:05,934 --> 01:07:09,584

There are no gorillas in the Caribbean.

: 1608

01:07:10,454 --> 01:07:10,744

Okay.

: 1609

01:07:13,024 --> 01:07:16,284

Shannon: He could have said,

freedom fighters, not gorillas.

: 1610

01:07:17,154 --> 01:07:18,054

So that was, that

: 1611

01:07:18,054 --> 01:07:18,814

was another, that.

: 1612

01:07:18,814 --> 01:07:20,413

was another .Yeah.

: 1613

01:07:20,644 --> 01:07:21,094

Gags a

: 1614

01:07:21,094 --> 01:07:21,694

lot of gags.

: 1615

01:07:22,114 --> 01:07:22,534

Mm-Hmm.

: 1616

01:07:23,494 --> 01:07:25,764

Which I feel like Martin

Short is known for.

: 1617

01:07:27,774 --> 01:07:28,264

Katie: Good point.

: 1618

01:07:29,244 --> 01:07:29,534

Shannon: Yeah.

: 1619

01:07:29,659 --> 01:07:35,869

Katie: Another little bit of trivia

is, I don't know if I would've noticed

: 1620

01:07:36,009 --> 01:07:38,349

it had I not read this in advance.

: 1621

01:07:38,409 --> 01:07:44,029

So I'm curious if you, so if you

did, there are two points in which

: 1622

01:07:44,299 --> 01:07:45,909

Captain Ron is driving a car.

: 1623

01:07:45,909 --> 01:07:52,029

He pulls up in that yellow car that

ends up going into the ocean, and

: 1624

01:07:52,029 --> 01:07:56,189

then when they're in Cuba and he's

driving the red 57 Chevy, right.

: 1625

01:07:56,504 --> 01:07:56,854

Shannon: Right.

: 1626

01:07:57,719 --> 01:08:02,479

Katie: Both of those cars have the

left headlight out, which is the

: 1627

01:08:02,479 --> 01:08:05,079

same eye that he has as a patch.

: 1628

01:08:05,899 --> 01:08:06,119

Did

: 1629

01:08:06,184 --> 01:08:07,004

Shannon: Didn't notice it.

: 1630

01:08:07,504 --> 01:08:07,724

No.

: 1631

01:08:08,859 --> 01:08:08,979

Katie: I,

: 1632

01:08:09,538 --> 01:08:09,979

I wouldn't.

: 1633

01:08:10,139 --> 01:08:13,219

I did because I had read that in

advance of watching the movie.

: 1634

01:08:13,879 --> 01:08:15,459

But yeah, that

: 1635

01:08:15,524 --> 01:08:15,874

Shannon: Which

: 1636

01:08:16,059 --> 01:08:16,379

Katie: touch.

: 1637

01:08:16,814 --> 01:08:17,514

Shannon: it is a nice

: 1638

01:08:17,564 --> 01:08:17,913

touch.

: 1639

01:08:18,294 --> 01:08:21,913

Um, and maybe they wanted more people

to notice it because in the little

: 1640

01:08:21,913 --> 01:08:25,234

yellow car, there's no need for the

lights to be on the headlights to be on.

: 1641

01:08:25,394 --> 01:08:28,804

'cause he pulls up

during the day, you know.

: 1642

01:08:29,154 --> 01:08:31,073

Katie: I should say it's

like busted out that,

: 1643

01:08:31,243 --> 01:08:31,823

Shannon: busted out.

: 1644

01:08:31,993 --> 01:08:32,154

Katie: it.

: 1645

01:08:32,884 --> 01:08:33,174

Yeah.

: 1646

01:08:33,323 --> 01:08:33,613

It's

: 1647

01:08:33,684 --> 01:08:34,344

Shannon: No, I didn't,

: 1648

01:08:35,484 --> 01:08:35,774

Katie: Yeah.

: 1649

01:08:35,894 --> 01:08:36,654

Shannon: I didn't notice that.

: 1650

01:08:37,283 --> 01:08:39,354

Those little Easter eggs are always fun.

: 1651

01:08:39,774 --> 01:08:40,634

Uh, you know

: 1652

01:08:41,294 --> 01:08:42,033

the significance.

: 1653

01:08:42,184 --> 01:08:42,474

Yeah.

: 1654

01:08:43,827 --> 01:08:49,886

Katie: Apparently a lot of, uh, captain

Ron's personal wardrobe came, came from

: 1655

01:08:49,926 --> 01:08:56,747

Kurt Russell's closet and, uh, his like

mannerisms at like being piratey, wearing

: 1656

01:08:56,807 --> 01:09:01,907

the Speedo was suggested by Russell, which

is kind of surprising to me actually.

: 1657

01:09:03,917 --> 01:09:04,497

Shannon: Really, because

: 1658

01:09:04,506 --> 01:09:08,737

again, I just, I, I see him as

a comedic actor who's kind of

: 1659

01:09:08,737 --> 01:09:10,577

like goofy and oh, you know,

: 1660

01:09:10,997 --> 01:09:11,216

um,

: 1661

01:09:11,527 --> 01:09:14,987

Katie: he is, I guess, but like

his wardrobe, I just don't like,

: 1662

01:09:15,727 --> 01:09:17,227

why would Kurt Russell have those?

: 1663

01:09:18,797 --> 01:09:19,287

Clothes

: 1664

01:09:20,064 --> 01:09:24,554

Shannon: I mean, he probably spends a lot

of time just not, if he doesn't have to

: 1665

01:09:24,554 --> 01:09:26,474

dress up, he doesn't, he doesn't want to.

: 1666

01:09:27,094 --> 01:09:27,314

One.

: 1667

01:09:27,413 --> 01:09:30,874

And speaking of wardrobe, I wanted

to mention I really liked his, I

: 1668

01:09:30,874 --> 01:09:34,323

hope this is his, now that you're

saying this, that Jamaican flag, the

: 1669

01:09:34,323 --> 01:09:38,004

colors of the, of the Jamaican flag,

that hat, uh, that he wears at the,

: 1670

01:09:38,274 --> 01:09:38,684

Like the

: 1671

01:09:38,774 --> 01:09:39,124

beret.

: 1672

01:09:39,264 --> 01:09:39,484

Katie: hat.

: 1673

01:09:39,929 --> 01:09:40,589

Shannon: The roster hat.

: 1674

01:09:40,589 --> 01:09:40,828

Yeah.

: 1675

01:09:40,884 --> 01:09:41,174

Katie: Yeah.

: 1676

01:09:41,759 --> 01:09:42,589

Shannon: liked that.

: 1677

01:09:43,009 --> 01:09:43,229

Um,

: 1678

01:09:43,689 --> 01:09:46,948

and now that you said that, I'm like,

oh, I hope that was his 'cause it really

: 1679

01:09:46,948 --> 01:09:48,709

added what I feel is like a nice touch.

: 1680

01:09:50,573 --> 01:09:50,993

Katie: It did.

: 1681

01:09:50,993 --> 01:09:52,993

And it's to your point about that.

: 1682

01:09:53,104 --> 01:09:54,033

Good, good point.

: 1683

01:09:54,374 --> 01:09:56,624

It, that tells us everything.

: 1684

01:09:57,124 --> 01:09:59,064

His appearance alone tells

us everything we knew.

: 1685

01:09:59,254 --> 01:10:02,394

Need to know about who this

person is, like at first sight

: 1686

01:10:03,309 --> 01:10:03,529

Shannon: Yes.

: 1687

01:10:03,949 --> 01:10:04,169

Yes.

: 1688

01:10:04,274 --> 01:10:04,693

Katie: Mm-Hmm.

: 1689

01:10:05,489 --> 01:10:08,689

Shannon: I think they're a very,

he and his wi or partner, um,

: 1690

01:10:08,989 --> 01:10:10,849

are a very laid back couple.

: 1691

01:10:10,849 --> 01:10:14,649

They don't embrace like the Hollywood

lifestyle and you know, just

: 1692

01:10:15,159 --> 01:10:18,289

when they're not making a movie, they're

just mom and dad and grandpa and grandma.

: 1693

01:10:19,999 --> 01:10:20,289

Katie: Yeah.

: 1694

01:10:20,289 --> 01:10:20,849

Which is cool.

: 1695

01:10:21,009 --> 01:10:22,689

I get that vibe from 'em also.

: 1696

01:10:23,469 --> 01:10:27,009

And I love, I feel like I say this

a lot, I love that, A, they're not

: 1697

01:10:27,009 --> 01:10:32,079

married and b, that she's something like

seven or eight years older than he is,

: 1698

01:10:33,068 --> 01:10:39,959

which is unusual, especially in Hollywood,

but also that's, it makes more sense that

: 1699

01:10:39,959 --> 01:10:42,689

way because men die sooner, you know?

: 1700

01:10:43,349 --> 01:10:47,609

So really to, to maximize

your time with a person.

: 1701

01:10:48,789 --> 01:10:52,239

The woman should be older, right?

: 1702

01:10:52,954 --> 01:10:53,244

Shannon: Yeah.

: 1703

01:10:53,244 --> 01:10:54,204

That's, that's good math.

: 1704

01:10:54,224 --> 01:10:54,924

That's good math.

: 1705

01:10:54,924 --> 01:10:55,204

Katie

: 1706

01:10:55,949 --> 01:10:56,369

Katie: Mm-Hmm.

: 1707

01:10:56,424 --> 01:10:57,364

Shannon: That's good math.

: 1708

01:10:57,669 --> 01:10:58,209

Katie: You like that?

: 1709

01:10:58,989 --> 01:11:03,849

? Now that I'm getting older, I'm

like, yeah, one of my favorite parts

: 1710

01:11:03,869 --> 01:11:08,329

of trivia is who was considered in

terms of like alternate casting.

: 1711

01:11:09,649 --> 01:11:11,369

I thought this would've been hilarious.

: 1712

01:11:13,079 --> 01:11:16,179

Tom Arnold was considered

for the role of Captain Ron

: 1713

01:11:16,954 --> 01:11:21,134

Shannon: Ah, again, lack of, um, physical

: 1714

01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:22,059

Katie: Sex appeal.

: 1715

01:11:22,404 --> 01:11:22,693

Shannon: Yeah.

: 1716

01:11:22,794 --> 01:11:23,454

Sex appeal.

: 1717

01:11:23,684 --> 01:11:23,974

Yeah.

: 1718

01:11:24,164 --> 01:11:24,454

Yeah.

: 1719

01:11:25,129 --> 01:11:28,389

Katie: But again, like I was not

physically attracted to Captain Rotten,

: 1720

01:11:28,389 --> 01:11:31,269

like at all, but I see what you're saying.

: 1721

01:11:31,269 --> 01:11:32,909

Like he was kind of a lady's man.

: 1722

01:11:33,764 --> 01:11:34,054

Shannon: yeah.

: 1723

01:11:34,074 --> 01:11:35,054

You had to believe it.

: 1724

01:11:35,054 --> 01:11:38,094

Even if you weren't attracted to

him, you had to believe that ladies

: 1725

01:11:38,094 --> 01:11:39,094

were attracted to him because

: 1726

01:11:39,094 --> 01:11:41,894

that was the whole point

of, of Martin's insecurity.

: 1727

01:11:42,074 --> 01:11:43,734

And um, you know, you

: 1728

01:11:43,734 --> 01:11:44,934

had to believe that he was somebody.

: 1729

01:11:44,934 --> 01:11:45,174

Yeah.

: 1730

01:11:45,204 --> 01:11:45,494

Yeah.

: 1731

01:11:46,274 --> 01:11:47,334

But I couldn't see Tom Arnold.

: 1732

01:11:47,754 --> 01:11:48,294

That's fine.

: 1733

01:11:49,297 --> 01:11:53,057

Katie: Yeah, he, he ultimately was passed

over, , because at that time he didn't

: 1734

01:11:53,057 --> 01:11:54,777

have a lot of movie acting experience.

: 1735

01:11:54,997 --> 01:11:56,297

, and he had like a time commit, commit.

: 1736

01:11:56,317 --> 01:11:58,177

He was on the Roseanne

show 'cause he was married

: 1737

01:11:58,227 --> 01:11:58,647

Shannon: Uh, yeah.

: 1738

01:11:58,667 --> 01:11:59,087

Mm-Hmm.

: 1739

01:11:59,097 --> 01:11:59,217

.

Katie: time.

: 1740

01:12:00,137 --> 01:12:00,557

Mm-Hmm.

: 1741

01:12:01,657 --> 01:12:06,757

and Jeff Bridges was also considered,

but he had other commitments.

: 1742

01:12:07,467 --> 01:12:09,717

It's very like Big Lebowski, Jeff Bridges.

: 1743

01:12:09,937 --> 01:12:10,157

So

: 1744

01:12:10,467 --> 01:12:10,687

Shannon: uh.

: 1745

01:12:10,757 --> 01:12:13,257

Katie: I could sort of

see that a little bit.

: 1746

01:12:14,232 --> 01:12:17,172

Shannon: He did, you know, comparing

his character and the big, the

: 1747

01:12:17,172 --> 01:12:21,132

dude and the Big Lebowski and Kurt

Russell's character in Captain Ron.

: 1748

01:12:21,132 --> 01:12:26,502

There are similarities in those two

individuals, you know, as far as their

: 1749

01:12:26,502 --> 01:12:28,422

personality and, yeah.

: 1750

01:12:28,442 --> 01:12:30,902

And their, um, uh, gestures and actions.

: 1751

01:12:31,242 --> 01:12:33,462

Um, so I could see, I could see that.

: 1752

01:12:33,942 --> 01:12:37,742

I still think that Kurt Russell is

more attractive than Jeff Bridges, but

: 1753

01:12:39,237 --> 01:12:40,937

Katie: Oh, a bazillion times.

: 1754

01:12:41,317 --> 01:12:41,537

Yes.

: 1755

01:12:41,807 --> 01:12:42,097

Yeah.

: 1756

01:12:42,577 --> 01:12:46,737

I, I think Kurt Russell is very attractive

ordinarily just not as Captain Ron.

: 1757

01:12:47,904 --> 01:12:51,204

Martin, do you have any guesses

for who was considered to play

: 1758

01:12:51,204 --> 01:12:52,364

Martin, other than Martin Short?

: 1759

01:12:52,984 --> 01:12:54,574

Can you think of other

people kind of like him?

: 1760

01:12:55,379 --> 01:12:56,239

Shannon: in the nineties.

: 1761

01:12:56,699 --> 01:12:56,919

Um,

: 1762

01:12:58,114 --> 01:12:58,404

Katie: Yeah,

: 1763

01:12:58,409 --> 01:13:01,229

Shannon: the only person that's maybe

coming to mind, and this is probably

: 1764

01:13:01,229 --> 01:13:06,068

just my association, uh, because of their

partnership now, would be Steve Martin.

: 1765

01:13:06,889 --> 01:13:08,749

Um, you know, he,

: 1766

01:13:08,769 --> 01:13:08,989

he

: 1767

01:13:09,089 --> 01:13:09,549

He also.

: 1768

01:13:10,534 --> 01:13:11,114

He was one.

: 1769

01:13:12,014 --> 01:13:12,234

Um,

: 1770

01:13:12,614 --> 01:13:12,834

and

: 1771

01:13:12,834 --> 01:13:13,154

maybe

: 1772

01:13:13,224 --> 01:13:13,714

because

: 1773

01:13:13,874 --> 01:13:14,114

Katie: considered.

: 1774

01:13:14,984 --> 01:13:17,664

Shannon: Interesting and maybe

Bill Murray, just because of the

: 1775

01:13:17,664 --> 01:13:21,504

time and like the types of movies

Bill Murray was doing at that time.

: 1776

01:13:22,624 --> 01:13:24,704

Katie: I can see why you

say that, but he wasn't

: 1777

01:13:25,374 --> 01:13:25,664

Shannon: Okay.

: 1778

01:13:25,959 --> 01:13:28,409

Katie: Partially because

he had like literally done.

: 1779

01:13:28,679 --> 01:13:30,049

What about Bob the year

: 1780

01:13:30,049 --> 01:13:30,369

before?

: 1781

01:13:30,669 --> 01:13:32,129

So it's like kind of the same movie,

: 1782

01:13:32,474 --> 01:13:32,764

?

Shannon: Yeah.

: 1783

01:13:32,794 --> 01:13:35,684

It's just, he would just be playing a

different, he would be playing the, the

: 1784

01:13:35,804 --> 01:13:36,764

straight man character.

: 1785

01:13:37,584 --> 01:13:38,244

Um, yeah.

: 1786

01:13:38,244 --> 01:13:38,644

Steve Martin.

: 1787

01:13:38,764 --> 01:13:39,564

I can't think of anybody else.

: 1788

01:13:39,943 --> 01:13:42,044

Uh, who, who, who else am I missing?

: 1789

01:13:43,619 --> 01:13:47,079

Katie: So apparently it was

originally written for Chevy

: 1790

01:13:47,209 --> 01:13:49,979

Chase, which I can see it's very

: 1791

01:13:50,404 --> 01:13:50,693

Shannon: yeah.

: 1792

01:13:51,219 --> 01:13:53,219

Katie: Lampoons esque in that way.

: 1793

01:13:54,039 --> 01:13:58,899

Um, but somebody that who I think is

very Martin shorty is Rick Moranis.

: 1794

01:13:59,943 --> 01:14:00,164

Shannon: Oh,

: 1795

01:14:00,474 --> 01:14:01,404

very much so.

: 1796

01:14:01,409 --> 01:14:01,649

Katie: play,

: 1797

01:14:02,693 --> 01:14:02,914

Shannon: Yes.

: 1798

01:14:03,589 --> 01:14:06,729

Katie: he had too many other

commitments and, and he went away.

: 1799

01:14:06,749 --> 01:14:12,409

For those of you who maybe don't recall

this, his, um, wife died of cancer, so he

: 1800

01:14:12,409 --> 01:14:14,289

kind of left Hollywood to raise his kids.

: 1801

01:14:14,909 --> 01:14:15,329

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

: 1802

01:14:15,549 --> 01:14:16,929

Katie: that's what he

was doing at this time.

: 1803

01:14:17,909 --> 01:14:22,009

And apparently they were on SCTV

together, he and Martin Short.

: 1804

01:14:23,159 --> 01:14:24,019

Shannon: Is that the Canadian?

: 1805

01:14:24,484 --> 01:14:25,384

Katie: Are they both Canadian?

: 1806

01:14:26,119 --> 01:14:26,339

Shannon: Yes.

: 1807

01:14:26,568 --> 01:14:26,859

Yeah.

: 1808

01:14:27,049 --> 01:14:27,339

Yeah.

: 1809

01:14:27,339 --> 01:14:28,019

That's the Canadian

: 1810

01:14:28,339 --> 01:14:28,859

Saturday Night Live.

: 1811

01:14:28,939 --> 01:14:30,059

I know Martin Short is Canadian.

: 1812

01:14:30,259 --> 01:14:34,899

I guess I didn't know that Rick Moranis

was Canadian or performed in Canada.

: 1813

01:14:36,154 --> 01:14:36,443

Katie: Yeah.

: 1814

01:14:36,884 --> 01:14:38,604

I, I kind of don't think

I realized that either.

: 1815

01:14:39,474 --> 01:14:45,324

Also considered Billy Crystal,

John Candy, Richard Dreyfuss,

: 1816

01:14:47,693 --> 01:14:53,024

and this one is one who I would,

John Ritter was also considered.

: 1817

01:14:53,264 --> 01:14:54,744

I think he would do a really good job.

: 1818

01:14:55,539 --> 01:14:58,199

Shannon: he would've, yeah,

I could see him doing that.

: 1819

01:14:58,579 --> 01:14:59,919

Um, absolutely.

: 1820

01:15:00,519 --> 01:15:01,439

I think, uh.

: 1821

01:15:02,839 --> 01:15:06,289

John Candy would've been

funny, but he also did well.

: 1822

01:15:06,629 --> 01:15:08,049

Uh, what, uh, what was that one?

: 1823

01:15:08,049 --> 01:15:10,568

Where they like get the summer,

summer rental or something.

: 1824

01:15:10,799 --> 01:15:13,609

He's kind of that character

or Summer, summer house.

: 1825

01:15:13,609 --> 01:15:14,089

Summer rental.

: 1826

01:15:14,144 --> 01:15:14,434

Katie: yeah.

: 1827

01:15:15,219 --> 01:15:15,509

Shannon: Yeah.

: 1828

01:15:15,514 --> 01:15:15,934

Katie: Mm-Hmm.

: 1829

01:15:16,679 --> 01:15:16,969

Shannon: Yeah.

: 1830

01:15:17,429 --> 01:15:20,449

Um, well those are

interesting, uh, choices now.

: 1831

01:15:20,719 --> 01:15:24,289

Does it say, um, where you're getting

this information if they turned it down

: 1832

01:15:24,549 --> 01:15:27,529

or, and they just landed on Martin shirt.

: 1833

01:15:27,559 --> 01:15:29,529

He's the one that raised his

hand and said, sure, I'll do it.

: 1834

01:15:29,709 --> 01:15:30,209

I'm not busy.

: 1835

01:15:30,789 --> 01:15:33,969

Or if like, they lined him up

and said, this guy right here.

: 1836

01:15:34,389 --> 01:15:35,529

And then everybody went away.

: 1837

01:15:35,629 --> 01:15:35,849

Sad.

: 1838

01:15:36,068 --> 01:15:38,409

The ones that didn't get

picked we're like, oh no, this

: 1839

01:15:38,409 --> 01:15:38,889

is gonna make

: 1840

01:15:39,049 --> 01:15:39,269

Katie: Sad.

: 1841

01:15:40,219 --> 01:15:41,749

Well, they want it.

: 1842

01:15:41,769 --> 01:15:45,109

So I'm Chevy Chase turned it

down 'cause apparently it was

: 1843

01:15:45,109 --> 01:15:46,029

originally written for him.

: 1844

01:15:46,779 --> 01:15:48,589

Rick Moranis turned it down.

: 1845

01:15:48,809 --> 01:15:53,789

So these are people who were offered

and then those others, um, probably

: 1846

01:15:54,509 --> 01:15:55,669

auditioned but didn't make it.

: 1847

01:15:55,999 --> 01:15:59,349

Billy Crystal, Steve Martin, John

Ritter, John Candy, and Richard Dreyfuss.

: 1848

01:15:59,539 --> 01:16:01,989

Because Martin ultimately

ended up with the role.

: 1849

01:16:02,249 --> 01:16:02,989

Martin Short,

: 1850

01:16:03,059 --> 01:16:04,939

Shannon: I bet that's what they're

gonna put on their tombstone.

: 1851

01:16:05,039 --> 01:16:08,459

My biggest regret is

not landing Captain Ron

: 1852

01:16:09,249 --> 01:16:10,059

Katie: captain Ryan.

: 1853

01:16:11,599 --> 01:16:11,889

Yeah.

: 1854

01:16:11,889 --> 01:16:14,489

They're, after they see

it, they're like, oh, whew.

: 1855

01:16:14,839 --> 01:16:17,049

Good thing I was passed over for that one.

: 1856

01:16:18,651 --> 01:16:20,471

Now, uh, let's see.

: 1857

01:16:20,671 --> 01:16:21,791

I have not seen this movie.

: 1858

01:16:21,861 --> 01:16:24,671

Have you seen Glass Onion,

A Knives Out Mystery.

: 1859

01:16:25,126 --> 01:16:25,666

Shannon: Yes, I have

: 1860

01:16:25,666 --> 01:16:29,186

very good, not as good as, not as

good as the knives out the original.

: 1861

01:16:29,406 --> 01:16:32,146

Um, which I think is just a masterpiece.

: 1862

01:16:32,606 --> 01:16:33,146

Um, but

: 1863

01:16:33,146 --> 01:16:35,346

the glass onion was, was pretty good.

: 1864

01:16:35,726 --> 01:16:37,826

Um, it's inter, you know, I like

: 1865

01:16:37,826 --> 01:16:37,986

the

: 1866

01:16:37,986 --> 01:16:38,426

characters.

: 1867

01:16:39,016 --> 01:16:39,306

Yeah.

: 1868

01:16:39,784 --> 01:16:42,384

Katie: I have heard similar things

from other people, so that's why I

: 1869

01:16:42,384 --> 01:16:44,424

haven't been like racing to see it.

: 1870

01:16:45,204 --> 01:16:50,424

But Noah Segan or Sagan, uh, he said

that he cited the character of Captain

: 1871

01:16:50,474 --> 01:16:55,984

Wrong as an inspiration for his

performance as Darrel in that film.

: 1872

01:16:57,824 --> 01:16:57,904

Shannon: Interesting.

: 1873

01:16:58,224 --> 01:16:58,934

Katie: Who's, do you

: 1874

01:16:59,104 --> 01:16:59,943

Shannon: the top of my head.

: 1875

01:17:00,924 --> 01:17:01,144

No,

: 1876

01:17:01,214 --> 01:17:01,414

Katie: it's

: 1877

01:17:01,424 --> 01:17:02,064

Shannon: off the top of my head.

: 1878

01:17:02,064 --> 01:17:05,594

I'll have to go D-E-R-O-L

: 1879

01:17:06,564 --> 01:17:06,984

Katie: mm-Hmm.

: 1880

01:17:07,704 --> 01:17:07,924

Shannon: and

: 1881

01:17:07,924 --> 01:17:08,564

I'll have to go back

: 1882

01:17:08,564 --> 01:17:09,204

and look at that.

: 1883

01:17:09,224 --> 01:17:09,744

Katie: know the character.

: 1884

01:17:09,744 --> 01:17:10,144

Mm-Hmm.

: 1885

01:17:10,544 --> 01:17:14,804

Shannon: Um, I don't know if he's

one of the main cast, um, but

: 1886

01:17:14,804 --> 01:17:15,724

I'll go back and look at that.

: 1887

01:17:15,724 --> 01:17:16,443

That's interesting.

: 1888

01:17:17,574 --> 01:17:18,404

It'll help somebody

: 1889

01:17:18,464 --> 01:17:19,164

Katie: to check it out now.

: 1890

01:17:20,779 --> 01:17:21,068

Yeah.

: 1891

01:17:21,249 --> 01:17:23,749

He was like, let me just do,

no one's gonna remember Captain

: 1892

01:17:23,969 --> 01:17:26,389

Ron . So let me just do that.

: 1893

01:17:27,262 --> 01:17:28,772

We're being a little hard on this.

: 1894

01:17:29,152 --> 01:17:32,972

If you haven't seen it,

I would say see it, but

: 1895

01:17:32,977 --> 01:17:33,397

Shannon: Mm-Hmm.

: 1896

01:17:35,012 --> 01:17:36,442

Katie: maybe don't buy it.

: 1897

01:17:36,922 --> 01:17:37,362

I don't know.

: 1898

01:17:37,502 --> 01:17:41,242

You know, it's, it's not one that you're

gonna revisit over and over again,

: 1899

01:17:42,622 --> 01:17:48,242

but I will say I would love to leave

all of my responsibilities behind and

: 1900

01:17:48,242 --> 01:17:50,362

go sailing around the world forever.

: 1901

01:17:51,342 --> 01:17:53,762

But unfortunately it is a

movie and not real life.

: 1902

01:17:54,022 --> 01:17:57,922

So we must now return

to present day reality.

: 1903

01:17:58,432 --> 01:18:03,922

Shannon, thank you for joining me to

Relive: 1992

: 1904

01:18:04,622 --> 01:18:07,602

Uh, captain Ron, do you have any

closing thoughts about the movie?

: 1905

01:18:08,202 --> 01:18:08,322

I.

: 1906

01:18:09,097 --> 01:18:11,797

Shannon: No, just to echo what

you said, Katie, we are being

: 1907

01:18:11,837 --> 01:18:13,357

a little bit hard, hard on it.

: 1908

01:18:13,657 --> 01:18:18,797

Um, but it is a movie that I do remember

from my childhood and I would, I would

: 1909

01:18:19,077 --> 01:18:22,517

recommend seeing it at least once, just

for the nostalgia of the early nineties.

: 1910

01:18:22,857 --> 01:18:28,397

And it is, you know, for, for someone

who is, um, a sailor or has been

: 1911

01:18:28,397 --> 01:18:33,837

sailing or is familiar with the terms

of sailing, I think it would resonate.

: 1912

01:18:34,267 --> 01:18:35,207

Um, some of the,

: 1913

01:18:35,467 --> 01:18:41,647

the comedy in it, um, would definitely,

would definitely come off as, as humorous

: 1914

01:18:41,647 --> 01:18:45,087

and entertaining as someone who has

been exposed to being on a boat or

: 1915

01:18:45,427 --> 01:18:49,527

can get some of the idiosyncrasies and

subtleties of, of sailing, um, themselves.

: 1916

01:18:49,627 --> 01:18:51,047

So yeah, absolutely.

: 1917

01:18:51,127 --> 01:18:54,607

I say watch at least once and

maybe tell Katie your thoughts.

: 1918

01:18:55,326 --> 01:18:56,266

Katie: Yes, please do.

: 1919

01:18:56,606 --> 01:19:00,066

And thank you all for listening

or watching on YouTube.

: 1920

01:19:01,116 --> 01:19:04,776

. To Shannon's point, if you have thoughts,

comments, feedback, et cetera, email

: 1921

01:19:04,796 --> 01:19:08,056

me at Retro Made podcast@gmail.com.

: 1922

01:19:08,566 --> 01:19:14,416

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: 1923

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