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This week, Laura Siddall joins us for an Ironman 70.3 World Championships preview.
But first Kelly & Sid dive straight into the 2026 Ironman qualification drama that isn't going away — and probably won't go away any time soon.
While Ironman had promised a fairer, more balanced system with 30–35% of total slots for women, the actual allocations of the "performance pool" spots are coming in closer to just 5%. Let your voices be heard, Feisties, and reach out to Ironman so they can hear your concerns!
Then, from frustration to anticipation: We turn our focus to this weekend’s 70.3 World Championships in Marbella, Spain. Even though we're barely over 24 hours from the women's race, the start list continues to change. They discuss:
- The Marbella race course and strategy—who will benefit most from the climbing?
- Will the favs (Lucy, Kat, Taylor, Solveig) still be too tired from Kona to lay it all out there? Will they even make it to the start line?
- Which dark horses should we be watching?
- Watch out for those short course athletes!
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Transcripts
All right, feisties.
Speaker A:It's Kelly here and Sid.
Speaker A:Laura Sedal is joining me because, man, Sid, Joanne is literally doing the welcome banquet right now as we're recording this in Spain.
Speaker A:And then Katie has, like, a sick kid and the flu.
Speaker A:So it's.
Speaker A:It's you and me holding down the 70.3.
Speaker B:Yeah, you called it.
Speaker B:Pulled the short straw.
Speaker B:I thought I was just on for a brief 70.3 review.
Speaker A:Now you got the whole show and we're, like, recording.
Speaker A:We're all off today.
Speaker A:I was at this conference all day yesterday.
Speaker A:They do this, like, female athlete research meeting at Stanford.
Speaker A:And so I drove down to Stanford, and it's interesting.
Speaker A:I don't know how much you follow.
Speaker A:Like, there's growing body of research on, like, female athletes, sports science, that kind of stuff.
Speaker A:But the stuff they're doing at Stanford is, you know, how can we use virtual reality to train the brain on acl, like, management and.
Speaker A:And I feel like, because ACL tears are disproportionately hit women.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:It's a big problem.
Speaker A:So this.
Speaker A:So they're, like, studying that.
Speaker A:And literally, like, the soccer.
Speaker A:The girls playing soccer at the high school down the street aren't doing, you know, the pre.
Speaker A:Have exercises that we already know work.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So you're like, I feel like there's this massive, massive disconnect.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But it's super interesting.
Speaker B:I. Yeah, I saw a bit of research recently.
Speaker B:I was reading one of those things that came through on Substack by someone pretty established in the sports science world.
Speaker B:And I can't even remember what the research was on now, but it.
Speaker B:Basically, the study was just on men.
Speaker B:And I was like, are we still here?
Speaker B:Are we still just doing, like.
Speaker B:And they did.
Speaker B:At the very bottom, they did reference.
Speaker B:They're like, oh, it is a small study and it is purely men, kind of sort of apologies.
Speaker B:But I was still like, are we still.
Speaker B:Are we still on this?
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, obviously that's just sort of like, you know, that is the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:What's the word?
Speaker A:The default.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:How it goes.
Speaker A:And we're trying to, like.
Speaker A:And there's.
Speaker A:So there's a lot of work still to change that.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:But there are these institutions, like, there's kind of a whole little alliance across schools where so, like Harvard and Boston University and Stanford and San Diego and, like, there's a bunch of schools doing, you know, working on different parts of different projects, all under this, like, female athlete alliance always sounds really, like, sketchy consortium, whatever.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But was it interesting?
Speaker B:Was it good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So there's a lot of.
Speaker A:So you know, we covered all the big topics and sometimes obviously like we get tired of hearing about these topics like eat more people.
Speaker A:But, but we still, you know, there's still a lot of research to show that you need to eat more and, and it helps.
Speaker A:But some of the new stuff, I will say I am concerned.
Speaker A:This is like my underlying everything is kind of this.
Speaker A:There is a wave of younger women, especially younger active women, especially younger active women who feel.
Speaker A:Feel like the healthcare system doesn't listen to them who are kind of going away from doctors in science and because they don't.
Speaker A:They don't listen to them and they're getting a lot of information from TikTok, from influencers, from podcasts, obviously.
Speaker A:And I mean obviously there are good, there are good sources out there, but there's also just.
Speaker A:And some of that trend is very much in the direction of anti.
Speaker A:A lot of things I don't know.
Speaker A:So I, that it's.
Speaker A:It's concerning.
Speaker B:It is like it's the, I guess it's the Dr. Google, isn't it?
Speaker B:And the AI or the influencer space.
Speaker B:And yeah, I, you know, there are a lot of good valuable people out there with the right experience who are trying to share their knowledge and share the messages.
Speaker B:But there's also a lot as with anything that is not as valuable and it is worrying then it is worrying if like to hear you say that, that people are going away from actual sort of.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Qualified.
Speaker A:I mean, I think it's a reaction to Doc.
Speaker A:Like, you know, a lot of people have been dismissed or ignored or.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, how many times do we hear that like women are ignored by their doctors or they go in and they say like I have this problem.
Speaker A:And it's like, well, have you tried exercising?
Speaker A:And you're like off.
Speaker A:Like, I'm a.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And so of course you're gonna be like, well.
Speaker A:And even at these conferences the academics will be like, oh, they'll poo poo.
Speaker A:Like, oh well, everyone's getting information from TikTok.
Speaker A:And instead of saying like, well why don't we as you Stanford research, go on TikTok and do good information.
Speaker A:They're just like, oh, well, they shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker A:And you're like, well that's not helpful, guys.
Speaker B:Go to where the audience is.
Speaker B:Go to where the, the masses are.
Speaker B:Go to where the audience is.
Speaker A:Or for example, you know, this ongoing conversation about training with your menstrual cycle.
Speaker A:All the academics are like, well, there's not research.
Speaker A:I mean women might feel like there's an impact, but the research.
Speaker A:And you're like, well, that sounds very belittling.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Like, oh, well, women just think there's an impact.
Speaker A:And you're like, yes, because.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And let me, let me wonder if it's all a bunch of academic men saying that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that.
Speaker A:And then you're like, well, no wonder they're getting their information from tick tock because you're like belittling their concerns.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So there is that.
Speaker B:Very true.
Speaker A:That like underpins a lot of these kinds of conferences.
Speaker A:And I'm always like, oh, makes me.
Speaker A:But that is why we are recording our 70.3 worlds preview.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And obviously everything we say on here is very scientific data.
Speaker B:It is true.
Speaker B:It is 100%.
Speaker A:I was gonna say, I was gonna say we're actually recording this podcast super last minute so that we can get the most up to date start list.
Speaker A:And still I feel like between when we record this and when it goes out in 12 hours, someone's gonna pull out.
Speaker B:I think so too.
Speaker B:And I think between.
Speaker B:Yeah, definitely between now and when the race starts, there's gonna be another, another couple of names dropping on both sides, I think.
Speaker B:But yeah, more so, I think the women's side just because of that close proximity to Takona and I think how brutal that race was.
Speaker B:But let's.
Speaker B:We can get into that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So before we, we're gonna do a full, full Marbella preview.
Speaker A:Before we do though, Sid, this slot allocation thing, I mean you and I have been texting about it.
Speaker A:I feel like we got it, we gotta come back to it.
Speaker A:Part of me.
Speaker A: nman qualification system for: Speaker A:And then there's like these performance pool spots, they're supposed to be allocated via this like calculation of who is the best.
Speaker A:And I think one thing was said and promised like, oh, 30, 35% of slots will go to women.
Speaker A:It'll be across age groups.
Speaker A:And then what is actually happening is 5% of the slots are going to women or whatever and it's heavily 50 something men.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And I am not going to debate who's better or not better because I think it's a dumbass fucking debate because 54 year old men don't compete against 17 year old women for a bull.
Speaker B:And shouldn't compete and shouldn't.
Speaker B:Like why?
Speaker A:Yeah, so it doesn't matter like who thinks they're better and who doesn't?
Speaker A:What matters is that this is not how this was supposed to work out and.
Speaker A:Yeah, and it's just, it's not going well, man.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I, I feel that like something needs to be done pretty quickly or said pretty quickly.
Speaker B:The fact that nothing's been said or acknowledged I think is a little disappointing.
Speaker B:And also then when something is said or done or at least we get clarification like what are they going to do retrospectively to these women who deserve to be there and have missed out.
Speaker B:And I think actually it's probably a post from you that you wrote like, and I'm not sure why we didn't pick on a pick, pick up on this earlier when we were looking into like the new, the new system and we thought going on previous years it would give more, you know, we're saying that there are some competitive women not getting slots that are more competitive than the, you know, lower down age group men who are getting slots.
Speaker B:And we thought this system was going to help with that.
Speaker B:But I think it comes down to like, like, I think you, you indicated that.
Speaker B:Why are we comparing men to women?
Speaker B:Like, it just shouldn't be a comparison.
Speaker B:The women should have 50 of the slots.
Speaker B:The men should have 50% of the slots.
Speaker B:Even if it's not that.
Speaker B:Let's say 60, 40, you know, let's start there.
Speaker B:And then the women's slots should all be.
Speaker B:Yeah, because we're, Yeah, I mean looking at that.
Speaker B:Those numbers that came out today on the Women in Try and the live feisty report.
Speaker A:Women in Try UK has been tracking this over the first however many races.
Speaker A:So as a couple of people online like Phil and Cox and, and so they just updated and for the first 16 races, 24% of the overall slots have gone to women.
Speaker A:But that counts all the age group winners.
Speaker A:Out of the performance slots, 15 have gone to women.
Speaker B:Total 15 slots.
Speaker B:That's not even 15% people.
Speaker B:That's 15 slots compared to 357.
Speaker B:357.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And that just for me blew my mind.
Speaker B:And I'm like, why, why is Ironman quiet on this at the moment?
Speaker B:Why isn't anything being said?
Speaker B:I get it.
Speaker B:We're going into 70.3 worlds.
Speaker B:Maybe they're waiting to get through that.
Speaker B:But you know, it's Arizona, the weak naked after 70.3 worlds.
Speaker B:That's a massive race.
Speaker B:And if we're still haven't done anything to rectify this, like we're not, we're not achieving anything that Iron man have said they've wanted to achieve, like, investing in women.
Speaker B:And off the back of the reports and the surveys they did last year, like, which age groups are the growth age groups?
Speaker B:Well, we're not supporting them in any way.
Speaker B:We're not showing them that there's an opportunity there.
Speaker B:And I think I will say one thing, one plea to people is female athletes who are listening.
Speaker B:I think the female athletes, the age groupers, need to write to Ironman.
Speaker B:Yes, they need to raise it because it doesn't help.
Speaker B:Like, we can raise it all we like, but if it actually comes from the athletes in the races who are experiencing it.
Speaker B:And the more people that speak up about it to Ironman, the more likely that they're going to have to feel something needs to be done.
Speaker B:Like, yes, we will talk to whoever we can and we will keep raising it and we can post stuff, but unless the actual women in the races speak up.
Speaker B:And I'm.
Speaker B:I'm saying that because I feel they're sort of disheartened and they're just walking away and going.
Speaker A:I think to a degree they are like, I think to a degree they're going this no point.
Speaker A:But I think you're right, because a lot of people ask me why.
Speaker A:Well, one, I think the re.
Speaker A:Like, it's slowly built, right?
Speaker A:Like, we kind of saw this happening at the first few races, and it was like, well, maybe that race was weird, maybe.
Speaker A:And now it just keeps building, right?
Speaker A:So we had two more races this past weekend where no women got performance spots, right?
Speaker A:So it keeps building.
Speaker A:And I think to your point, a lot of people have asked, why hasn't Iron man said anything or why haven't they done anything?
Speaker A:And I think they're used to hearing complaints from customers.
Speaker A:So there's an amount where you're just like, oh, some people are complaining again, and they think this will blow over.
Speaker A:And to your point, I think that's because they also, they hear very, very heavily from their existing core base, which is a lot.
Speaker A:Like a lot of men who think that this is good or fine.
Speaker A:And so you have to, like.
Speaker A:And they don't hear a lot from women generally.
Speaker A:And they don't hear a lot.
Speaker A:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like, historically, men make their voices heard more.
Speaker A:And I think they hear those complaints, like, then.
Speaker A:So they hear a lot of people and they're like, oh, well, this will blow over.
Speaker A:Some people think one thing, some people think another.
Speaker A:And I do think the more people who point out that this is just not working out.
Speaker A:It's like, not going the way.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Anyone wanted it to.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And like you said, they're listening to or they're listening to who they think, you know, speaks up and stuff.
Speaker B:But if everything they've said in their research is like, we want to invest in women, how do we promote the women?
Speaker B:We'll listen to the women then.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:And so again, a plea to the women, like, please stay, say something.
Speaker B:I did notice today that Mark Allen, who off the back of Kona, has been quite vocal on this subject.
Speaker B:And today he is raising a petition, I think, to present, which.
Speaker B:Yes, great women, please sign that, whatever it is.
Speaker B:But don't just rely on that.
Speaker B:Please speak up on your own voice.
Speaker B:And also my thing to Mark Allen is like, one, thank you.
Speaker B:But could you not have done this a few years ago when we'd been fighting for it?
Speaker B:And why.
Speaker B:Why now?
Speaker B:And can you just go to Scott Derue and talk to him?
Speaker B:Like, we don't need to go through this whole.
Speaker A:Might be able to just go to CEO Scott.
Speaker A:For sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think right now is because it feels like it's coming to a head.
Speaker A:I think right now is because, you.
Speaker B:Know.
Speaker A:Like, like, it takes.
Speaker A:Sometimes it takes things going really, really badly.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:In America for people to realize that, like, oh, that went really, really badly.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So part of me.
Speaker A:And part of me is sort of like, if this had just gone mediocre, everyone would have.
Speaker A:It would have just sort of passed.
Speaker A:I still would have been like, this is bullshit.
Speaker A:You're still going to lose women.
Speaker A:But it's going so badly that actually people are like, what the hell?
Speaker A:Like, so.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I think again, like I said, let's get behind whatever the petition is, but also just raise your voices.
Speaker B:The other interesting thing, I thought, hearing from friends who are on the ground in Marbella, they did host a Women for Try Breakfast or whatever we want to call it.
Speaker B:I'm not sure if that was the official name yesterday and Scott Derues was there presenting.
Speaker B:Now, I haven't heard huge amounts off the back of that and the feedback of how that went and what the topics were in the conversation, but I hope that there was a swell of voices that said, hey, we need to.
Speaker B:I don't know if that would.
Speaker B:It would have happened with it being a breakfast.
Speaker B:I think it was more a. Yeah.
Speaker B:Presentation.
Speaker B:I'm not so sure there was Q and A as such.
Speaker B:But again, interesting move.
Speaker B:If you're holding a Women for Try breakfast, you're obviously wanting to Say, hey, you're important to us.
Speaker B:So now you got to do something and you got to listen to us and say, these age group women are getting screwed and this is not.
Speaker B:Not what you thought would happen or not what we all thought would happen.
Speaker A:That's what I thought would happen, to be super clear.
Speaker B:But, you know, there we go, that's fine.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So anyway, it is out there.
Speaker A:We get.
Speaker A:I'm just saying this now on the podcast because we get messages every day from women who are like, oh, my God, did you see what happened in Florida?
Speaker A:Did you see what happened in this Iron Man?
Speaker B:What did.
Speaker B:What.
Speaker A:What can we do?
Speaker A:And so we're telling you like, I am aware of it.
Speaker A:We are aware of it.
Speaker A:We have written about it, we have been working with women and try to track it.
Speaker A:You can, we have done.
Speaker A:We are doing.
Speaker A:You can contact Iron Man.
Speaker A:Emails are fairly easy to find.
Speaker A:I won't like, put them out on a podcast, but you can, you can find people in the show notes, right.
Speaker A:And you can email them.
Speaker A:You should make it known like, they are aware this is a problem.
Speaker A:So the more that it's like, oh, this problem isn't going away, the more they will actually address it.
Speaker A:So I just wanted to say that because we do hear from people a lot, so.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.
Speaker A:And I'm always like, I'm not the one you should be telling.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:And you know, and it's valid.
Speaker B:Like, we want to, we want to obviously hear from the women around what is happening and stuff.
Speaker B:But yes, please go to Ironman and raise your concerns with them as well.
Speaker B:We will keep fighting from our side, but yeah, if they hear it direct from the athletes, it's.
Speaker B:It's going to be more.
Speaker B:Only add weight and be more powerful.
Speaker A:So Marbella, there are 2,600 women racing apparently, and about 3,600 men.
Speaker A:So that is a lot of athletes.
Speaker A:I think that's the biggest 70.3 worlds we've had today.
Speaker B:Oh, interesting.
Speaker A: derstanding because it's like: Speaker A: About: Speaker A:And let's talk about the course a little bit.
Speaker A:Obviously this is a new ish course, so I don't think we've seen it fully before, but we have a one lap ocean or sea swim?
Speaker B:Yeah, sea, sea.
Speaker A:And then a kind of a very hilly bike course, 6,000ft of elevation.
Speaker A:But it's not super, super technical.
Speaker A:I mean, it is European.
Speaker A:It is European, but it's not like the most technical out there.
Speaker A:And then we have a two loop flat along the water run course with like one little hill in the middle.
Speaker A:Very nice, like to me, very European, like to me.
Speaker A:Tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker A:I feel like it's this good.
Speaker A:We're going to see those like strong cyclists, those European athletes who excel.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's sort of the course Description I've heard.
Speaker B:T2 is in a car park.
Speaker B:Not sure if that's true or not.
Speaker B:It is a split, split transition, but not very far away.
Speaker B:They're pretty.
Speaker B:T1 is on the beach, I think and the finish line from what I'm hearing from athletes on the ground who have got there now, whether they worked themselves up into a frenzy before thinking it was a lot worse, worse than it is.
Speaker B:And then they've got there and they've driven or ridden it and they're like, oh, it's not as bad as we thought.
Speaker B:So I think it's.
Speaker B:Yes, there's a lot of elevation, I think a half distance, you know, I don't think it's as scary as nice was and I think that's probably reflected in the numbers as well.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:It has got, it's an out and back and it has got significant climbing obviously on the way out and the way back.
Speaker B:But I don't think it's particularly technical at like the nice course was with those sort of winding sharp corners on the descent.
Speaker B:You do come back on a slightly different road to the way out.
Speaker A:I was going to say I think it's more like lollipop kind of, but.
Speaker B:It'S like a bulge in the middle.
Speaker B:There's like a bulge in the middle.
Speaker B:So I think it's.
Speaker B:As you go up and over the high point, you come back on a slightly different, varied.
Speaker B:But I think yes, we are going to see.
Speaker B:I think it's also.
Speaker B:There's a lot of excitement about the course from what I'm hearing a lot, particularly amongst the pros, can't comment on the age groupers.
Speaker B:The age group feedback is not as bad as they thought it was.
Speaker B:But I think that the pros, there's a lot of them like frothing over how good the bike course is and I think, yes, very European in terms of that nice Spanish type.
Speaker B:You've got those mountains but then you've got a promenade.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Or the avenues and stuff for the run and it's on the beachfront which is, you know that again, that's like Coastal, Coastal European.
Speaker B:Very typical.
Speaker B:So hopefully that also brings out a lot of support on the road.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And obviously one of the big appeals of 70.3 worlds is like the two day and so the women can cheer for the men.
Speaker A:I mean, I don't think the men come out as much the day before because they have to rest their legs, but they still come out some and you have all the spectators there with them.
Speaker A:You know, you have 6,000 athletes crew like cruise with them.
Speaker A:So it does make it a lot bigger.
Speaker A:I do think it does seem like an awesome course for the pros, for the age groupers.
Speaker A:I feel like if I was one of those 3,600 men, I would be a little nervous about that descending.
Speaker A:I would be like, oh yeah.
Speaker B:So hopefully it's not, you know, I always say, yeah.
Speaker B:It's funny that argument.
Speaker B:Like we've had this off air like conversation between who goes first, do the women go, men go first and typically the women always race first.
Speaker A:Well, no, to be fair, in world try they switch all the time.
Speaker A:They always switch.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:In world tri always rotate.
Speaker B:But in, in 70.3 worlds, 70.3 woads.
Speaker A:Always, it has always gone women and then men.
Speaker A:Early on there was discussion about why don't they just switch every year.
Speaker A:And then that just sort of died out and we've had other things to argue about and.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And I look on principle, I do think they should, they should switch it every year.
Speaker B:I do know, however, it is quite nice as a female to then go and watch the men.
Speaker B:But I do think it also then skews any because obviously more people will watch the second day of racing because all the first day people have raced, which is like you said, whereas a lot of the men will be at home putting their feet up and won't necessarily come out for all the race.
Speaker B:I also want to say I feel sorry and it's because it would be my age group, the 45 to 49 women who are shafted yet again.
Speaker A:Are they going last?
Speaker B:Were in Kona.
Speaker B:Yes, they were in Kona.
Speaker B:They were last and they are in 70.3 Marbella.
Speaker B:So my.
Speaker B:I am sorry.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:There is a calculation that goes heavily into spacing of age groups and it has to like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like you want there to be not the fastest age group first because you don't want them catching the back of the pros.
Speaker A:You want like some of the slower.
Speaker A:I'm saying in quotations, age groups but then you want to put like the fastest Some fast age, like you want to space out the fast age group so they don't run into each other and give.
Speaker A:So they do put a lot of thought into this but I can see how it then leads to, to the same, the same general again.
Speaker B:I get it.
Speaker B:Yeah, I get it.
Speaker B:And I didn't realize that but I assume there must be some form into it.
Speaker B:But when it's the same like just then rotate it or something or like not have it.
Speaker B:These same poor 45 to 49 year olds got screwed in Kona.
Speaker B:And also it's a late start.
Speaker B:It's a late start in Marbella.
Speaker B:Like the probes don't start till 8:00am.
Speaker A:They start at like 6, 7:40 or something like that.
Speaker A:7:50 something.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it's almost, yeah almost 8:00am which is very European.
Speaker B:But it does mean that those like that those end age groups and I think maybe even worse so for the men because they're spaced a little bit further apart because of the sizes.
Speaker A:So many.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:They're not starting till like mid morning.
Speaker A:Oh, I was gonna say I guess I could pull it up.
Speaker A:But yeah, they must be starting all the way through.
Speaker A:The men go all, they start all the way till 10am whereas the women get done by 9:30.
Speaker A:So there you go.
Speaker A:Yeah, you're like oh yeah, yeah it'll, it'll be an.
Speaker A:I do like I don't think the weather's been a huge discussion or concern but of course you know, by the afternoon on a promenade it gets hot.
Speaker A:Let's talk about this, this pro field though as we start kind of teased early, the big thing is going to be like who actually starts.
Speaker A:We've been joking like start list does not equal starting, does not equal finishing.
Speaker A:Because I strongly suspect in the next 24 hours some people are going to realize they are too tired and not they don't start.
Speaker A:And then some people are going to get out there like halfway on that bike course and realize like oh this was a bad idea like because, because it's just been a long season and Kona was so free recently that I like, like today literally as we were getting on Indy, Lee was like I thought I was good but I'm not, I'm tired.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she dropped out.
Speaker A:So it's going to happen.
Speaker B:And I think, yeah.
Speaker B:And I think look, there's always this massive impact from an Ironman and particularly the Ironman World Championships and let's say particularly Kona and obviously yes from Nice but obviously Kona was a lot more recent to tense and the men.
Speaker B:And I just think that race took so much out of women, whether they finished that race or didn't finish that race.
Speaker B:Like, you know, let's look at Solvay Lofseth, rookie winner.
Speaker B:Like, the amount of.
Speaker B:I'm sure she's been pulled in every direction since she won.
Speaker B:So that mental toll, the physical toll, has she been able to recover enough?
Speaker B:Even like a cat, you know, Kat Matthews has said it herself as well.
Speaker B:Laura Phillips isn't racing.
Speaker B:So she's said it.
Speaker B:And now Indie Lee obviously has pulled out.
Speaker A:Lisa Perder pulled out.
Speaker B:Lisa Perder.
Speaker B:I think she was a pretty early decision.
Speaker A:She was.
Speaker A:I'm just about.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And reportedly Laura kind of thought she might not race pretty quickly too, but was leaving it open.
Speaker A:So there's always the, like, who's saying what publicly?
Speaker A:Verse completely.
Speaker B:And then conversely on that, like, I don't know when Lucy Charles and her team made the decision, but I know for Taylor, it was very last minute.
Speaker B:And literally, like Sunday, Monday, when she got the flight out there was literally, it was to the wire on whether she was going or not.
Speaker B:I am still interested to see how those two have pulled up, of course, and I really hope they have.
Speaker B:And I'm sure they do.
Speaker B:And I'm sure, I know I've heard rumors that Taylor's just fed up of everyone putting their opinion on her, what she should or shouldn't do.
Speaker B:So I'm trying not to do that.
Speaker B:And I just hope, you know, she's obviously a racer, she wants to race, but I'm sure they have the right people in their corner to say they are good to race and they will be sensible enough on the day to know if things are going south.
Speaker A:And what's that?
Speaker A:What did we learn about Taylor, like, the year that she did Kona and got fourth?
Speaker A:Like, Taylor's gonna do what Taylor wants to do, man.
Speaker A:Like, exactly.
Speaker A:She has a strong opinions, a strong person.
Speaker A:Like, that's fine.
Speaker A:But yeah, obviously the big question, of course, is Lucy and Taylor, like, coming off those DNS at Kona, that heat.
Speaker A:I mean, I don't think we know officially what the term was, but they clearly overheated.
Speaker A:Neither of them remembers large chunks of the race around, like the.
Speaker A:The sitting down and blacking out.
Speaker B:Or after.
Speaker A:Or after.
Speaker A:Yeah, they are.
Speaker A:Core temperatures were very, very elevated for a long time.
Speaker A:And we know, like, we just literally know it takes a long time to cover that.
Speaker A:We, like, like Sarah Truze talked about it, I mean, you can look at literally in Running like Alberto Salazar, like, did it to himself.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Like you.
Speaker A:It takes a while.
Speaker A:So it's been an open question how they're.
Speaker A:How they are.
Speaker A:I still think it's.
Speaker A:Oh, I still would not be shocked if, you know, it turns out one of them in the recording of, like, between now and when this goes up decides, like, actually I need to rest.
Speaker A:Assuming they make it to the start line and they actually get out there.
Speaker A:Laura, are they going to be in top form?
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know and I must admit I haven't.
Speaker B:I know they've had the press conference today and I haven't listened to that.
Speaker B:So I don't know the answers of the women out there.
Speaker B:I know for sure Taylor wasn't doing much at the start.
Speaker B:Like, straight after Kona, she was taking it very seriously and was on strict rest.
Speaker B:But I know too, like, you look at Kat Matthews.
Speaker B:I know she said she partied hard but struggled to get back motivation.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:I do feel out of the three of them, but then this might just be going on again.
Speaker B:Social media and public cat is probably in the best shape.
Speaker A:Oh, you're in the best cat form in the.
Speaker A:In the.
Speaker A:I was putting in the.
Speaker B:Lucy, I know you weren't.
Speaker B:I know you were.
Speaker B:But I've now just like brought cat in between Taylor and Lucy.
Speaker B:God, I just don't know.
Speaker B:I mean, on the outside it looks like, like Taylor was in a lot worse position when she kind of collapsed than Lucy was.
Speaker B:But Taylor's was a very.
Speaker B:She'd either managed to hide it very well or control it very well.
Speaker B:And then it was all of a sudden, lights out.
Speaker B:Whereas Lucy, you could see it for.
Speaker B:It was going on for longer.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I'm no medical expert and I don't know the insight on who.
Speaker B:Who was worse or if it really matters who was worse.
Speaker B:It doesn't.
Speaker B:They're both said that it doesn't matter who is worse.
Speaker A:It's more a question, I think.
Speaker A:I think if we're literally just then looking at 70.3 worlds in terms of like, how could this play out?
Speaker A:How will this go down?
Speaker A:Okay, I think then it's like usually you would be like, well, this is Taylor's race or Lucy's.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Like Lucy's.
Speaker A:Lucy's gonna be.
Speaker A:Lucy's gonna be from the gun.
Speaker A:Taylor will try to get up to her, they will try to bike away.
Speaker A:Normally that's what you would say.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:And I think the question, and I don't think they know.
Speaker A:I don't think anyone knows how good form they're gonna.
Speaker A:How much that is still gonna be true.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:On Saturday.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:And I think also like, if you look at how Kona played out, but we're talking about half the distance and we have some other great swimmers in the 70.3 race.
Speaker B:So will Lucy have a gap out the water?
Speaker B:Potentially.
Speaker B:But not as big as she had in Kona and potentially she won't be.
Speaker B:She might have a Jess Learmouth with her and if Jess is there, maybe Taylor is with her and the Georgia Taylor Brown because they've been able to swim with Lucy over the shorter distance this year or not too far behind.
Speaker A:And we have.
Speaker A:Because we do have some of those WTCS athletes kind of.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Coming in here.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:So Lucy, look, I think this course in theory suits Lucy.
Speaker B:She knows how to race off the front.
Speaker B:We saw her race on a very.
Speaker B:We saw her win in 22 on a very hard course like St. George, which had hills.
Speaker B:But we've also seen Taylor, she's won the three the last three years.
Speaker B:This also is particularly suited to Taylor as well.
Speaker B:And if she is with Lucy near the front, I think the power will be if it's Taylor and Jess Learmouth, I think that's the danger pair on the bike.
Speaker B:Like a swim bike combo.
Speaker B:And it'll be whether that gap where.
Speaker B:Where is Kat coming out the water?
Speaker B:I think, as always is that question if she can get on the back of that front group or that lead group or that front group.
Speaker B:I think people are in danger.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I will say here's my.
Speaker A:My hot take is I think it's cats to win.
Speaker A:I think yes, she'll need to.
Speaker A:If she can attach herself to the back of the front swim group or not get too much of a deficit.
Speaker A:I just think she is so strong on the bike run and she has dedicated so much time this year to improving her bike.
Speaker A:I don't think we fully saw that in Kona just because of the way like the weird dynamics of that group played out.
Speaker A:And she's just hands down one of the fat like what, three fastest runners in this field.
Speaker A:Two fastest runners, like.
Speaker A:So she.
Speaker A:If it's close, coming to T2, I think Cat wins it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Interestingly enough, I was looking at some of the predictions on this and on the run, Cat is down as the fastest run, but only by like 5 seconds over Lucy, which I thought was quite bizarre.
Speaker B:I think the other interesting thing, I don't think we did see cat spike in Kona, but I think if Solvay comes out the swim with Cats, which I think Solvay will see as a disappointing swim, as she sort of said in Kona, she expected to be higher up.
Speaker B:However, knowing now Solvay's bike strength and Kat's bike strength, they could use each other and I would put Kat as a better runner over Solvay.
Speaker B:But I do think, as you mentioned, maybe not for the win, but people we need to look out for is like Atanya Newbert from Germany.
Speaker B:She's come off the back of wts.
Speaker B:She finished ninth in Wollongong a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker B:She's had like pretty much top 10 finishes over the whole of the WTF WTCs.
Speaker B:And I think she might be a bit of a dark horse because she raced Bahrain 70.3 in December last year and that's how she qualified.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker A:And she was right behind Georgia at Bahrain 70.3.
Speaker A:And now Georgia Taylor Brown.
Speaker A:It's a little.
Speaker A:I mean she's done nine races in 10 weeks or something like that.
Speaker A:So I don't think we're quite clear like how much of a focus this is for her and how much she's like having a holiday with Vince.
Speaker B:And this was in her year of not doing triathlon.
Speaker A:Right, Right.
Speaker A:This is like her year of like doing random playing.
Speaker A:So it's possible that we see another like, yes, like you said, like we see this front group of crazy good WTCS swimmers, bikers with a Jess and a Georgia.
Speaker A:And we have Tanya in there and the other WTCS athlete that is like, well, she's not.
Speaker A:Is interesting to me is Emily Morer.
Speaker A:She's like very, very young, but she was.
Speaker A:We know she can bike.
Speaker A:She raced pro cycling all year.
Speaker A:She raced the Tour de France Femmes.
Speaker A:And like she comes see, you're like.
Speaker B:You put this in the notes.
Speaker B:And I hadn't picked up on her because I saw and I didn't know that about her in terms of racing the Tour de France.
Speaker B:So yes, very interesting to see.
Speaker B:I had down that she put she one of the ones that pulled out.
Speaker B:I had Rochelle Hill in there who was the under 23 world champ from Wollongong.
Speaker A:Is Richelle still racing?
Speaker A:I thought she had pulled out.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, she's not.
Speaker B:She's pulled out.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So that was my other wts and I wasn't aware of.
Speaker A:Yeah, but yeah, so it's an interesting dynamic where we are.
Speaker A:Look like we like everyone has to focus on These like the big hitters, I'm saying in quotes, like the cat, Lucy, the tailor.
Speaker A:But then there's obviously you have your 70.3 specialist.
Speaker A:You have like Paula.
Speaker A:Paula's gonna be up there.
Speaker B:I was gonna say that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So Paula has said she's had some injury issues, but she says her biking is going really well and she has been named quite a lot in sort of the, I guess the mix of the favorites.
Speaker B:She's obviously had a successful year over 70.3s, I think four, four wins, potentially.
Speaker B:Is it four?
Speaker B:Four out of seven.
Speaker B:But we haven't seen her.
Speaker B:She's raced T100.
Speaker B:So we've had a fairly good gauge there and she's had some, I guess, top five ish.
Speaker B:But you just, I don't know, you just.
Speaker B:Again, Paula's not one of those that you can kind of like write off, so to speak, or forget about, because she's going to be.
Speaker B:But it'll be.
Speaker B:I don't know where she'll come out with the swim.
Speaker B:Like, her and Kat, Matthew, like.
Speaker B:Is it her cat and Solvay coming out the water together or is there.
Speaker A:Because I think there's sort of this, like, we have this, like, in our heads, right?
Speaker A:There's this front group of the swim that's like Lucy and maybe you get like a Jess.
Speaker A:And then if there's Jess, maybe Taylor sticks on, right?
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:And then there's this second group that's like, maybe Kat can stick to Solvay, but there's somewhere in between there that there's a whole bunch of athletes that you just like, sort of don't know, like, could fit in there.
Speaker A:And then they may not play in like the top five overall, like, but they'll change the dynamic, especially some of these, like, WTCs.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:So that's where it's like, where is the break going to be, where there's actually a new group and where is it just going to be like a long string of people between that front group and that second group?
Speaker B:Do you attack hard on the hill on the way out of town knowing that you get a bit of recovery but maybe can get away or do you wait until the hill at the end like on the way back?
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Probably depends on if you're Lucy or if you're Kat, you know, so.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:But yeah, there's other.
Speaker A:Like we mentioned, like, yeah, Paula, I mean, she's also kind of mentioned that she was sick.
Speaker A:We'll see on her podcast.
Speaker A:We have Like Ellie Salthouse Grace, that these are like 70.3 kind of specialists that'll certainly be like, in that, like what we're talking about in that mix where there'll be like a bunch of people that you're just not sure where the break's going to be.
Speaker A:They'll all be in there.
Speaker A:I do want to give a shout out to Lydia, our intern, Lydia Russell.
Speaker A:I think she's going to pop off.
Speaker A:I will tell you guys.
Speaker A:She is going to have the fastest run split.
Speaker A:That's my prediction.
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean, she hope, like, it'd be great if she did.
Speaker B:Like, considering what she's raced.
Speaker B:I mean, she hasn't raced so much in the second half of the year.
Speaker B:She sort of had first half of the year and had some great.
Speaker A:She hit a.
Speaker A:What are the things in Arizona that look like pigs?
Speaker A:You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker B:No, I have not.
Speaker A:Javelinas.
Speaker A:She had hit a hamfelina on her bike and broke her caliber.
Speaker A:So she's been back.
Speaker B:Now, the other WTS athlete that I wanted to mention and her name confuses me because it starts with the wrong letter, but I think you pronounce it Jennifer Arnold, but it starts with a D and she's Brazilian and she's.
Speaker B:She hasn't raced much and she.
Speaker B:But she has been undefeated in her couple of races.
Speaker A:She's raised a bunch of the last three weeks.
Speaker A:Here's my only concern about Jennifer.
Speaker A:She went from Wollongong, where she got 10th, I think, or 11th, to back to Brazil, one Florianopolis.
Speaker A:Then came.
Speaker A:Now it came to Marbella, that is.
Speaker A:That is around the world tour with a lot of racing in three weeks, which obviously these athletes, like, that's what they do.
Speaker A:They know how to do it.
Speaker A:Some people are better at it.
Speaker A:Like, some people recover better than others.
Speaker A:It's not the same as like also having a job and trying to do that, but.
Speaker A:Or, you know, a different job.
Speaker A:Not a pro athlete job, but yeah, she is someone else.
Speaker A:People have been talking that will be in that kind of like swim pack mix.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Again, maybe not there at the end, but definitely impacting the beginning bit.
Speaker A:It'll be interesting.
Speaker A:Here's my.
Speaker A:Before we're gonna do a quick pick for the men, but out of all of this, I said, I think Cat's gonna win it.
Speaker A:Who do you think's gonna win it?
Speaker A:Who's your pick?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Do I have to.
Speaker B:Can I.
Speaker B:Do I have to say different to you?
Speaker B:Because I think.
Speaker B:I think it's going to be.
Speaker B:I think Kat, she's had those second places.
Speaker B:I think the fire is too.
Speaker B:Is so strong if she's recovered like and we know how strong Kat is in terms of being able to race back to back and still have amazing performances.
Speaker B:I think, you know, the other thing to consider is as the Ironman like Kat will not be thinking about the Iron Man Pro series.
Speaker B:I'm sure she'll just want that world title.
Speaker B:However, the little battle between Solvay and Cat to make sure they're whatever time in front of the other.
Speaker B:But yeah, I think it's this year is Kat's the taking the taking if she.
Speaker B:If she wants it.
Speaker B:But you know, you just don't know.
Speaker B:You just don't know with Taylor you just don't know like if Lucy gets off the front and yeah it's.
Speaker B:I found this one quite hard to.
Speaker B:To pick.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:I think the even harder we don't.
Speaker A:We're not gonna talk about the men as much.
Speaker A:This is a women's triathlon podcast.
Speaker A:But I actually think the men's race is even harder to pick because they have had a longer time between Nice and here.
Speaker A:So you have like they've had more time to recover.
Speaker A:So you have fewer of the big names dropping out just because they had.
Speaker B:Three more weeks also.
Speaker B:But also, also.
Speaker B:So there was every champion of the.
Speaker B: champion since: Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Only three from the top 10 in Topor last year are racing 11 from the top 15 in Nice, which is about to contradict what I was about to say.
Speaker B:There are 39 athletes on the men's field making their 70.3 World Championship debut.
Speaker A:Oh really?
Speaker B:That is huge.
Speaker B:And that to me shows like a turning of.
Speaker B:I think that's the influx of short course athletes moving up into the middle distance and hence you just don't.
Speaker B:And then that puts that whole like you don't know potentially who.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You have another like Rico Bogan comes out of nowhere type of situation.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:He's not going to come out of nowhere this year.
Speaker B:But yeah, yeah, but you've got a whole bunch of like Miguel Hidalgo, Sam Dickinson, Jamie Riddle, Jonas Schomburg, Fabian Kraft as a few of those names who have moved up and could potentially kind of do well.
Speaker B:But obviously you have the Norwegians, all three of them.
Speaker B:Casper is the only one that hasn't won the 70.3 world championship, but obviously one in Nice, Yellow Gaines obviously defending champion from last year and then Rico Bogan as well.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, we haven't seen Yelly race very much this year, but I think he's like hard to beat over this distance.
Speaker A:I am going to tell you my.
Speaker A:I mean, obviously my.
Speaker A:What's the.
Speaker A:We did this a couple weeks ago.
Speaker A:Like, you're my.
Speaker A:My heart pick is Gustav.
Speaker A:He kind of seems.
Speaker A:I literally saw someone do a top five picks and they didn't have him on there.
Speaker A:And I was like, you don't have Gustav.
Speaker A:He's won two of these.
Speaker A:Like, yeah.
Speaker A:How do you not have him on your picks?
Speaker B:And he's won two in the past.
Speaker A:Five years and on a very similar courses.
Speaker A:Like, this is the kind of course he tends to do well at and he's clearly back in form, so.
Speaker B:And not to go into too much detail on the men, because it is about the women.
Speaker B:I think one of the other ones to watch is the Italian and I'm going to butcher his name.
Speaker B:Alessio Cross Crossiani.
Speaker B:He let out the water in Paris at the Olympics and he finished third at the WTS grand final, only being overtaken in the later stages.
Speaker B:And he had the second fastest swim and bike to obviously Matt Hauser.
Speaker B:But I think again, like, we've not seen him massively over the 70.3 distance.
Speaker B:But he's clearly a.
Speaker B:He's one of these WTS athletes moving up and could be one of those just comes out of nowhere.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Are you gonna make a pick?
Speaker A:Are you gonna make a pick?
Speaker A:I'm saying Gustav.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker B:You're gonna go Gustav.
Speaker B:No, I'll go.
Speaker B:I'll go Yeller.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I'll go for defending champ.
Speaker A:Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker B:I have no idea on the men's, to be honest.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:So it is this weekend.
Speaker A:Women go on Saturday at like we said, 7:50am sorry, I'm about to start coughing.
Speaker B:Which is.
Speaker B:I will.
Speaker B:Yeah, jump in.
Speaker B:That is super late for us over here in the US While Kelly's dying.
Speaker B:I will carry on.
Speaker B:So, yes, the women are Saturday about 7:50 European time.
Speaker B:It's about midnight for me in mountain time.
Speaker B: Just: Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And the men are on Sunday, same time, I'm guessing.
Speaker A:So unfortunately for North Americans.
Speaker A:Yeah, men are same time on Sunday.
Speaker A:Unfortunately for North Americans, it is only on outside watch in North America, which means that you can watch it live for free.
Speaker A:Totally.
Speaker A:Great.
Speaker A:But that will be 2:00am, 4:00am our time and you cannot watch it on replay unless you are a member, an outside plus member.
Speaker A:So that is unfortunate.
Speaker B:I did not know that.
Speaker A:That is my understanding Unless that has been the way it has worked for the last time, however many years.
Speaker A:Unless they have changed that.
Speaker A:Because people always ask me like, how can I want to.
Speaker A:Unless they have changed that.
Speaker A:Or if you somehow record the live recording on your computer, then you could.
Speaker B:Watch it or screen, you know, like, what is it?
Speaker B:Screen.
Speaker B:Keep it open all the time.
Speaker B:I was just thinking because I was sorting out a meeting that I have Saturday morning now and I was like, okay, that'll be fine because I'll be up.
Speaker B:And I was like, no, that's going to be at the end of the race.
Speaker B:Am I now going to stay up from midnight through?
Speaker B:And I think just because I have to do a couple of reports on it, I think I might have to do the all nighters.
Speaker A:All right, well, too bad.
Speaker B:Easier to watch it than.
Speaker A:It's easier to watch.
Speaker A:And if you live.
Speaker A:If you are not in North America, that is on YouTube and Dazin and like Disney plus in Latin America.
Speaker B:Dazone.
Speaker B:It is Dazone.
Speaker B:Oh, good to know is how you pronounce it.
Speaker A:And it's.
Speaker B:I can tell you all this because I've been doing the.
Speaker B:If you've.
Speaker B:If you watch the Fighting Chance presented by Hoka for episode one for Marbet, you will hear my dulcet tones.
Speaker B:And I can say that the coverage is on Iron man now.
Speaker B:Outside tv.
Speaker B:Dazone and Laquique.
Speaker A:There you go.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker A:So you should watch that.
Speaker A:And it is a very, I do think 70.3 world is like my favorite event because it is like just so many people.
Speaker A:Each of the races get their own day, but they're in the same place.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So much fun.
Speaker A: year we'll be back in Nice in: Speaker A:California word.
Speaker A: a is Oceanside is bidding for: Speaker B:And then it's back in that.
Speaker A:It's back in Nice in 28 and then it's in Oman in 29.
Speaker B:So 27.
Speaker B:Oman is 29.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it needs to come back to North America generally.
Speaker A:And 27 is the gap year.
Speaker A:So anyway, that is the like kind of California gossip word.
Speaker B:So just so people know.
Speaker B:I, I was, I thought Oman was earlier than that.
Speaker B:So I was like, why?
Speaker B:How can California be 27?
Speaker B:Isn't that Oman?
Speaker A:Do I believe Oman is.
Speaker B:Do you think California and Oceanside is the right, like, is that a world?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Course I don't.
Speaker A:Not probably like technically.
Speaker A:I mean, I don't know because it's not like my favorite course.
Speaker A:And it's not.
Speaker A:I don't know that it has enough room.
Speaker A:And it goes to the base, which is the whole, like, hard.
Speaker B:And they have the speed zone bit.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker A:So it's like a we.
Speaker A:So I don't.
Speaker A:They might have to change it or something.
Speaker A:I'm not sure exactly how they would deal with that.
Speaker A:It is also.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know how you would fit 6,000 people in Oceanside, like.
Speaker A:But still, it's.
Speaker B:But it is probably time for it to come back to North America.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:North America as it makes its rotations.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So that's just for everyone.
Speaker A:Oh, and to close us out, my correction from last week, I think I might have said the T100.
Speaker A:Dubai is the final and it is not.
Speaker B:It is next weekend, but the final.
Speaker A:Is in Qatar in a month.
Speaker A:So that was.
Speaker A:If I.
Speaker A:It's cutter, actually, in Arabic, having taken Arabic.
Speaker A:But that's not how we pronounce.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker B:I was going to say.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:So that's the same.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's rot.
Speaker B:Ro.
Speaker B:Rote in German.
Speaker B:But we always say Roth.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker A:But you say it.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But that's not how we.
Speaker A:We say Roth.
Speaker A:We say Qatar.
Speaker B:But how did you say it again?
Speaker A:Arabic is like, cut in Arabic.
Speaker B:Qatar.
Speaker B:Good to know.
Speaker A:But you have to say it with a better accent.
Speaker A:I don't get the accent.
Speaker B:It is the road.
Speaker B:Road to Qatar.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm gonna say it wrong.
Speaker B:And it's Dubai next week.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:So I may have misspoken that last week.
Speaker A:That is our correction for the week because we try to get things correct eventually.
Speaker B:And it'll be interesting again to see those people going from Marbella to Qatar to die.
Speaker A:Lots of racing still.
Speaker A:And we will probably have Joanne and Katie back and we will have guests again next week besides Sid, who has joined me.
Speaker A:Thank you, Sid, for coming.
Speaker B:One little thing.
Speaker B:Sorry, I know you're trying to cut me off.
Speaker B:The interesting thing is, is Ashley Gentle is, again, not on the 70.3 star list.
Speaker B:That's because she's focused on T100 this year and she's been committed to that and I have full respect to her.
Speaker B:But it would be nice to see Ash at one of these 70.3 races one year.
Speaker A:She did last year in New Zealand.
Speaker A:She did last year.
Speaker B:Oh, she did.
Speaker B:You're right.
Speaker B:I apologize, Ash.
Speaker B:She did, yes.
Speaker B:I just feel she's like.
Speaker B:Because I know the years before that she hadn't raced and she.
Speaker B:Because she was getting married and various other things like that.
Speaker B:And travel and stuff.
Speaker B:Yes, that's right.
Speaker B:She did a race last year.
Speaker B:Okay, Ash Forgiven.
Speaker A:She was third, I believe.
Speaker B:So she.
Speaker B:The big news.
Speaker B:The big news, though, she didn't race.
Speaker B:She didn't race Noosa.
Speaker A:I know that's true.
Speaker A:The one result we didn't talk about from this past week before we close out, because I was trying to close this out, Sid was the Noosa triathlon.
Speaker A:And after like 13 years, Ash Gentle did not race it.
Speaker A:So we had a new women's champion, Jess Folachar.
Speaker A:I don't think I said that right, but Fulagar, I think Folagar, the up and coming British triathlete who's Katie, who if Katie was here, she would tell us all about.
Speaker A:She's been talking her up, so.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, she was fourth in Wollongong, I think Jess was.
Speaker B:And interestingly, Jess was guiding for the para British para tries a year or so ago.
Speaker B:And then I think obviously then her own personal trajectory kind of raised up and she needed to focus on that, which is awesome.
Speaker B:But another, like, great.
Speaker A:Another great British.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's just so many of you.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know.
Speaker B:They're all good swimmers.
Speaker B:I'm like, where did I miss that?
Speaker B:What did I miss out on that?
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