In this episode, Chuck Anderson and Faith Rumer explore how creative professionals and entrepreneurs can overcome fears, express their authentic selves, and make a bigger impact. They discuss the importance of mindset, emotional empowerment, and practical steps to unlock hidden potential.

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Faith Rumer is passionate about empowering Entrepreneurs, Leaders, and Creative Professionals who have a message, movement, purpose, or vision to get their talents and message out into the world, make a difference, and generate more success doing what they love.

Faith is a speaker, mentor, singer-songwriter, and best-selling author of Truly Be Seen and Heard. She has coached and helped Academy award winning actors, film & TV stars, television hosts and world-class entrepreneurs to stop holding back who they truly are so they can amplify their impact, share their gifts, and live a Fully Expressed Life.

Faith holds a Master's Degree in Communicative Disorders and is a certified Life Coach and Meditation Trainer.

CHAPTERS:

00:00 Introduction to Big Impact Experts

01:58 Understanding the Challenges of Visibility

02:58 The Importance of Authentic Self-Expression

05:36 Identifying Human Needs for Growth

09:05 The Need to Be Seen and Heard

12:17 Exploring Creativity and Its Role

16:30 Navigating Fear and Self-Judgment

22:15 Taking Action Amidst Uncertainty

26:55 Faith's Free Gift and Next Steps

28:21 Final Words of Wisdom

LINKS:

Free Guide: 7 Essential Needs to Drive Your Business Forward

https://courses.raisingyourimpact.com/7-essential-needs-download

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Chuck Anderson,

Affiliate Management Expert + Investor + Mentor

https://AffiliateManagementExpert.com/

Hello, everybody, and welcome back.

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This is the Collaborators Unite Podcast.

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Chuck Anderson here, your host, and this is the show where we serve what we call big

impact experts.

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And that's you if you are on a mission to not only grow your business, but you want to

make a big positive impact in the lives of your clients, possibly even your community, or

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even the world.

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And we know from conversations that we've had that it does go beyond just making money.

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You want to make a difference.

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You know that you have something that can change people's lives for the better.

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You don't always feel visible.

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You don't always feel confident.

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Um, maybe you even think that you're destined for bigger and better things.

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Like you know you have all this stuff, but how do we how do we get it out there?

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How do you confidently put yourself out there so that you are able to make this big

impact?

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Well, today's

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guest is an expert at helping you with that and we're gonna do a deep dive into that

conversation.

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So I have Faith Rumor here with me today.

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And uh Faith and I have been working together for more than a year.

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I love what she does.

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I trust her.

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You can learn a lot from what Faith has to say today.

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So Faith, welcome to the show.

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I'm so happy to be here, Chuck.

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Really great.

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I it's about time actually.

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I'm surprised that it's taken us this long.

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and so usually when I meet amazing people, it's much sooner than that.

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But hey, sometimes the universe has other plans.

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So right?

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It happens at the right time.

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I I agree.

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And um it's not always on the the on human time.

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Like there's what we wish.

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would happen and how fast we wish things would happen, but they happen at the right time.

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Yeah.

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just don't have enough information yet to understand that is what happens.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Um, well tell everybody about you, uh the work that you do, who you serve, and I think

we'll we'll we'll kinda start the conversation from

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Okay, great, perfect.

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Um I work with creative professionals and leaders and entrepreneurs who really they have a

mission, they have an idea, they're they're purpose driven, whether they're creatives or

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whether they're entrepreneurs, and they really do want to make a difference in the world.

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Um and often they know they're capable of more.

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They have these ideas and talents and dreams they haven't really fully expressed, but

something's holding them back.

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So through mindset presence work, I do emotional empowerment.

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I have a a beautiful program, I work with people on that, communication skills and

creating authentic self expression.

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I help them to build the confidence to stop playing small and to show up more fully in

their work.

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They so they can trust their voice and show up more fully in their work.

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So we align who they are with how they show up and then they can create greater impact.

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They had deeper fulfillment and then a life that feels really genuinely their own.

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That sounds amazing.

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And uh what are you hearing from people when you meet them for the first time?

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So when you're meeting clients who haven't really become your clients yet, but they're

reaching out to you, what are you hearing from them?

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What's the how are they describing their their challenge?

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'Cause we hear all the time about playing small or playing big or being authentic, but you

know what what are you hearing right from their mouths uh in terms of the struggle?

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Yeah, yeah.

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And in the last six months has kind of changed, I think, on the last six, seven, eight

months.

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I did hear a lot and it's still going on, people are saying they're not really feeling

seen and heard the way they want to be, and that's come sometimes in their family life and

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their work and relationships.

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They're just not feeling seen and heard, which is why I wrote the book, Truly Be Seen and

Heard.

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And then um the other thing that started

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coming up and these are the words people were using.

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I don't feel like I'm fully expressing myself.

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I heard it over and over again.

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And um so now I've been putting my attention on helping people really live that fully

expressed life.

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So when they say that they're not fully expressing themselves, what do they really mean?

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Like what is we let's dive deeper into that because I really love this.

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Um, but what how do they describe what they think they should be doing or maybe what

they're not doing?

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Well often they are um they have designed their life to uh fit one and I'm gonna say this,

we're gonna dive right in here, to one of the one of the basic human needs.

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So when after when I worked with actors, which I've worked with a lot, I have I work with

actors, Academy Award winning actors, people who are on major television shows and movies,

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and what we're always defining as a when I'm coaching them

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is what is the basic human drive that our character needs.

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And that's what drives our character forward into the scene or the movie or the television

show or whatever's going on.

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So this is true about all of us because what we're doing in acting is a character study of

basic human beings.

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And so we can get caught up in there's all all kinds of emotional there's emotional needs,

there's social needs, survival needs, all kinds of things.

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higher level needs, uh similar to the Maslow's uh hierarchy of needs, and we can take a

look at that, but if we get caught up in I'm just trying to survive, then we're not really

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maximizing those more those needs that help us to really feel fulfilled as a human being.

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So um I s I found that people get stuck because they're disconnected from some of the very

natural human needs.

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That can really help them to

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drive their business forward.

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Now how consciously aware are they that that is what's happening?

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Like it can they name it?

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Like can they say, Oh, this is what it is, this is what's happening in there?

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Or is it something sort of like, I know there's more, but I don't know, like where are

they at?

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of it.

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A lot of people are saying, I know there's more or I'm afraid to do this or I need to do

this because, you know, this is where um I'm making my living.

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This is where I this is where the the money's coming in from.

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Which we wanna honor that obviously, but there is more.

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We gotta take that next step to become more of who we are.

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I believe that as human beings we are here to expand and to grow.

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And that's what we've been doing since we were kids.

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Every every year we grow and expand into somebody new and somebody different.

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Just as we get older a little bit less playful in some cases.

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We turn it into serious business and careers and all of that and so yeah.

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yep, yep.

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Um, and so we want to look at some of those needs that really would drive our business

forward and so that we don't get stuck in, um, I'm I need to be validated.

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That might be a need, but that may not drive your business forward.

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What are some the mistakes that you find that they're making that either lead them away

from the solution, making it worse, or maybe even lead them away from the awareness of

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what's really happening?

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Well, they get stuck in being everything being perfect.

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Um, they're afraid that they're gonna be judged, those so there's some mindset things

going on.

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Um, they're afraid to really trust their unique genius.

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Like, go out there and be who they are.

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So they're trying to fit into a mold.

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And that happens lots of times when we're you know, especially for women when they get

into the corporate world and men too.

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they are trying to fit into a mold of what people think they should be, and then they're

not uniquely being themselves.

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So that can stop them.

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that that trusting that if they really follow what's in their heart, what's in their what

they really want to do, that doors will open.

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You just have to go after it as as like you would go after anything else.

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Yeah, what's holding them back from the 'cause so many times, I mean, yeah, and I've

experienced this myself, where you get you get these these visions or these glimpses of

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like, it'd be super amazing to be do doing this.

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And I remember one t where I I had a dream.

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I was watching a Tony Robbins infomercial.

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Yeah.

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This was in the late nineties, but I was watching him on late night T V and I had a dream

that night that there was this enormous crowd and someone was coming out on the stage and

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I thought it was Tony that they were gonna introduce and then uh at

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when the that person was finally revealed, it was me on the stage and I woke up in terror.

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Like I'm like 'cause I was not doing the public speaking thing yet.

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Uh it wasn't much longer until I was, but I was deathly afraid of public speaking and I

was terrified.

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I'm like, no way, that's never gonna be me.

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Um hind in hindsight it was.

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I have spoken to

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large audiences and it was not as scary as as what the dream was.

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But you know, that's I always felt like there was more, especially during that time.

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I mean now thirty years later I'm I'm I'm I'm doing it and there's always another level,

but um that's what it was for me.

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Uh

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Yeah, Chuck, I think you just brought up that that very first basic um essential need, and

that's the need to be seen and heard.

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And that's why you were dreaming about that.

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I remember when I was six years old and it was my birthday and I got a beautiful pink

dress for my birthday.

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Now my family didn't really have a lot of money.

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So that was special, and it was really special.

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I felt so magical in it.

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And I remembered, you know, running down the stairs to show my mom who was in the kitchen.

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And I sta stopped at the landing.

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I spread my arms really wide and I went, ta-da, you know, to show her.

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And she looked up at me and she said, Honey, it's not nice to show off.

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So my mother was doing the best she could, but in that moment I learned that n that being

visible might not be safe, that shining might be selfish.

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And therefore kind of bring it back in, you know, we don't want to make others feel

uncomfortable.

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Yep, there's a consequence, you know, if we shine too bright.

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Um, and many of us carry that some version of that story.

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Right?

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Yeah, I'm I'm one as well.

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I was the whole modesty thing, you know, you know, religious upbringing, you know, was all

of that and and and and so but there is this energy that wants to get out.

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Absolutely.

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You know, we've learned somewhere along the way that it doesn't feel safe, you know, to be

visible.

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But deep inside, we still carry that very natural and powerful human need to be seen and

heard.

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Now here's the deal.

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The need to be seen and heard is not because we need attention.

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It's because we need connection.

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Right?

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So I was trying to connect with my mom.

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Even a little kid is like saying to their parents, you know, look at me, looking like I'm

doing this trick, right?

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They really are trying to connect with their parents.

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So

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And is it the acknowledgement that they're looking for or

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Well, it can be, you know, um we and and what we wanna do uh

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What we want to do to be seen and heard is like kind of look at what is behind that.

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If we are going to put our attention on uh connecting with people when we're when we're

putting out their ourselves out there, like in this podcast right now, my goal is to

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connect with your audience, to connect with you, to connect with people who might see this

later on, and help them to be able to uh maybe open up a little bit, maybe to have a new

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idea about themselves.

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And and and is it you know, what's the the transformation journey like?

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So I think we could all all relate and I think my audience certainly can to relate to

this, you know, I I there's something.

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There's something inside of me.

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I want more people to see it.

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Or maybe they're even beyond that, they have their coaching program or whatever it is, and

um they're they're really not able to attract more than

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single digit people to what they're doing, but they know they're destined for more and

they know that their program is capable of so much more.

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Where do they start?

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Like is it is it a is it a slow, gradual transformation, or are there some things they can

do to start, you know, some people call it like flipping a light switch.

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So what's that that transformation journey look like and where does it start?

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Well, I think that there's a couple of different more needs that we can explore.

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We looked at that need of to be seen and to be heard.

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Um and one of the other needs is to actually to be creative.

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So studies have shown, and this is really interesting, that creative activities stimulate

our prefrontal cortex.

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And you wouldn't think that, right?

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That would be but that's the part of the brain that's responsible for uh decision making,

problem solving, and planning.

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So we're wired to be creative.

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So and when we're not creative or we don't feel creative, what's the what's the opposite

of that or what's the the effect?

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Yeah.

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the effect?

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Yeah.

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We start to feel flat.

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we can be successful and still feel disconnected from ourselves.

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You know, it sometimes it's about you've been doing the same thing over and over and over

again and it and you are ti it's time to grow.

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Just like we were talking about when um as we grow up as a teenager, you have certain

things the way you want to express yourself and then you get in your twenties and it's a

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different way, 30s, 40s, every every decade it seems, we are in a new way of expressing

ourselves.

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And what felt right for us even in our coaching or in our business

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a couple of years ago, we might need to expand that, start to be a little more creative.

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that.

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Um and it is is there other needs as well that that I mean we've talked about that need to

be seen and heard and that need to be creative creative.

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What else are we craving?

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Well, here's a need and this is everybody's gonna understand this to share our ideas.

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There's a need for that.

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How many brilliant ideas never get shared because people are waiting to get ready?

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As I yeah.

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Yeah, that's part of it.

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idea.

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No one will ever do that, right?

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And so

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we have a tendency to denigrate our ideas.

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But sharing our ideas, right, is essential to who we are.

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Again, it helps us helps us to feel more connected to others.

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And when we don't share it, what happens?

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We have these um feeling here's the emotional consequences of not sharing our ideas.

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And I think people can relate to this frustration, stagnation, right?

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E regret.

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I wish I'd written that book.

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Even low self esteem.

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We hear that all the time from people.

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All the time.

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Yeah.

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Those are those hallmarks that you're like there's something that you're um that you need

to share when you're feeling frustrated.

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Yeah.

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Frustration is connected to our needs and our desires, our c you know, who we are and what

personally you want and what personally I want.

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Which you know, we are we are wired in a way to have our unique perspective on what would

what we want in the world.

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Yeah, I h once heard frustration described as the gap between our reality and that ideal

of where we think we should be.

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Right?

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Mm-hmm.

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It's a real feeling in our body when we feel frustrated.

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It's a it's a I call emotions and getting down the emotional um road here, but emotions

are are actually mo it's actually energy in motion.

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So we feel this sort of energy in our body and it could be fear, it could be um could be

anxiety, but it could also be frustration, could be anger.

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And we want to pay attention to those.

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So the need to

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to share our ideas.

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It's like it is it's not just for us.

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We're meant to share our ideas with the world so we can have a positive impact on others.

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What I hear from people often, and I'd love to get you to weigh in on this, is okay, you

have the idea, and I was one of these.

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I mean I've learned to come o get over it, and it's been a quite a 30-year journey of of

that, but initially it was not easy.

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And it's hard to remember everything that happened.

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But um, you know you have an idea.

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But again, there's that self-judgment.

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We mentioned that already.

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It's like, is this uh idea really good enough?

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Or what would happen if people don't like it?

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What people uh what happens if people really like it?

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Because I think there's that fear of putting it out there and being judged negatively, but

there's also a fear of like h being, you know, growing too quick too fast.

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So, right?

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And so let

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Love to hear your thoughts on both sides of that.

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That is so good.

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You just brought me into the next need.

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Okay, which is really great.

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It's like you're reading my mind.

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Universal guidance.

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Um I am not here right now.

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I'm just uh I I'm on the next I'm chatteling the next question.

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There we go.

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So the next need, I mean and they don't aren't really hierarchical, you could do them.

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They're all different, you know, you can explore them, but it is to explore our gifts and

talents.

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So if we're to feel like we're going too fast, maybe we need to slow down and explore

those talents and gifts a little bit.

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Because this is where our humanity comes in.

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It's our unique ex perspective, right?

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Because we're interested, we're in now with AI, right?

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AI can write content, summarize books, generate ideas.

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But what it can't replicate is our lived experience, our purpose, our heart, our story,

and what I call our presence.

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So as we discover, here's the deal, new strengths and passions and interests, that can

lead us down like new exciting new paths.

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Single.

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And and a lot of people want clarity.

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Like they wanna, you know, and and again, I mean, meditation is a tool that's very common

in the industries we work in.

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And it seems like there's this desire to be able to see the entire journey in all its

infinite detail and a guaranteed destination at the end.

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Um and when and and in the absence of seeing that, it's I'm not gonna follow this path

yet.

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Yeah.

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Which is why people will go down traditional paths because there is a clear direction of

where they're gonna end up, you know, become a lawyer, bec you and it but even that is not

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guaranteed.

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People go down those paths all the time and find um it's not what they wanted or they

wanna they find something new.

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So yeah, you know, there are a lot of ways that we can start to explore these things.

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I mean, first of all, I would say pay attention to what lights you up a little bit.

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For me when I was a kid, music and acting and the arts really lit me up, so I went down

that path.

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And I'm still down that path.

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I still work um as a singer, uh and release music and write music and share my music when

I'm doing my keynote talks.

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Yes.

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Yeah, you see there it is.

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You know what's funny as you say that, I remember as a kid my grandfather got this, you

know, cassette player that you could record on and it was

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So new I mean, this is in the eighties.

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It was so new.

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I mean, to record yourself was a big deal.

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And it had this little mini microphone.

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And my cousin and I did a radio show where we interviewed each other.

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And here we are.

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I'm like almost three hundred people interviewed now on pod various podcasts that I'm

involved in.

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Uh and so here I am doing that very thing that I did when I was a kid.

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Right.

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And so

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that so there we go.

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You know, if and if we're not sure about what it is, I mean we could feel that lighting

up, but I always say start with curiosity.

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Curiosity can open a door, but we wanna leave any judgment at the door.

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Right?

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do they deal with that in s uncertainty?

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Because I I see this all the time with people being held back by they can't see the whole

roadmap, so and this that's uncertainty.

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And so it stops them from moving forward.

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But here's a here's a great example.

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I always love metaphors and examples, but it just caught my mind.

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You know, when you get married to somebody, you don't know what's gonna happen down the in

twenty years.

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You have no clue, basically.

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You kinda have an idea.

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You don't know how many kids you're gonna have.

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You don't know um if you're gonna have kids, you don't know if somebody's gonna get ill or

someone's gonna make a lot of money.

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You just don't have any idea.

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But you make that huge commitment to getting married to someone, regardless if you can see

the end.

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Why?

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Because you're lit up by it.

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Right?

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The possibility is bigger than what

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the fear of the future could be.

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That is a great way to to describe it.

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I've never heard it said that bef way before, and that completely makes sense.

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So it's not like we're incapable of dealing with the uncertainty, because we are doing

that in other areas of our lives that we're not even recognizing.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You know, and curiosity like stu in your business, you know, keep going um working on

curiosity.

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I uh a good example is when I'm writing a song, you know, I'm I could ask myself in s and

I get stuck um with a word or a phrase.

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I don't know how to finish it or it feels stale or whatever.

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I could ask myself, gee, I wonder how many rhymes I can come up with for this word.

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Then I go down that path.

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And then it kind of takes me away from that doubt and uncertainty that I can finish this

song.

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I I just had an interesting visual while you were you were you were describing that.

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But no, I love that.

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And then and then again that's that's uh a tool that you can use to get out of that uh I

don't have any ideas to now I'm working on an idea, right?

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And so um

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I wanna l get to eventually the I know you have an amazing free gift that would help our

audience with and then if you're resonating with what we're talking about, you definitely

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wanna hang around and get that.

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Um, I wanna make sure that we do talk about next steps a little bit.

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And so kind of bringing all of this together, and I think we've been saying, you know,

like here's the challenge, but here's what you do instead.

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But

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Where where where's where do people start?

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What are the next steps that someone should take if they really resonate with what we're

talking about here today?

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Um, I would say first of all acknowledge that there's fear and uncertainty and doubt, you

know.

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It's like it's so human, it's just part of every new experience that we all go through.

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First of all acknowledge that it doesn't make you weird, it doesn't make you different,

doesn't make you less than, it doesn't make you incapable.

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It's exactly where you are because you're a human being.

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And then we want to get curious

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get curious about what could be the next step, then take that step and do it messy.

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working with you, I'm always being uh compelled forward to take that next step and it's

great.

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It's I'm loving it.

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Um but it's also I think then having some faith and you know, not just hope but some faith

that uh as you are expressing yourself and going out there and and and f starting with an

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open mind, that things will be revealed to you.

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I think open mind.

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faith and trust in in that you're not gonna see the entire path, but at least the next

step will be revealed once you take a step towards.

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and then the other thing is too is is to start to develop the skills that you need to

drive your business forward, whatever that is.

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We now need to be very visible in the world.

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So um I teach a lot of communication skills and voice and presence skills as well.

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And those are um really important today.

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We don't want to be over polished, but we wanna have

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gosh, here's the thing I think is really important to step into our authority.

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And that just came to me the other day for myself.

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I was like, really step into your authority, what does that really mean for me?

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And then the last thing and you start with this and you end with this is willingness.

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Eight.

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Willing to take that next step forward, willing to put yourself out there.

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Willing to have everything like seem to fall apart in a moment, right?

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Right, absolutely.

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And man, it sucks when it does, but so many of the good things that have happened to me

have come from moments that weren't all that fun.

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Well, it even like launching something you have all your tech kind of get crazy, right?

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It's a learning experience.

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need s need to all like get over it and accept it, right?

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Gotta get over and ac and accept it.

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Absolutely.

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Um, absolutely.

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being connected with me, or really anyone who can be there for you in those moments,

right?

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And so

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coaches.

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Um I've really stepped m above just coaching people now and mentoring people because it

means that you have someone on your side there.

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I'm not just gonna teach you something, but we're going to um walk walk it together and

then, you know, and find out what's really happening.

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What's what is the next step.

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I don't wanna give people a cookie cutter way of

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you know, m living a fully expressed life because everybody has a different way of what

that what that looks like.

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I'd go a step further and tell people, advise people, um, you can do what you want, but be

very cautious of cookie cutters, right?

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Yeah, yeah.

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That's very convenient marketing, it's very convenient promise.

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and we will I think both telly, I won't speak for you, but for me, I will say it's not

that clean.

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Um, but when you take the right steps.

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There's always a solution.

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And when you have the right guidance and you have the right support around you, you can

handle anything.

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That doesn't mean you don't have a framework that you're working with.

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No, you need that, but it's gotta be flexible.

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I've been in programs where it was, you know, I've been put into a what I call a box and

it did not feel good.

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It wasn't where I wanted to be.

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Well, an airplane takes off from one city and lands in the other city, and it always gets

to its destination.

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But the wind is constantly blowing it off course.

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But it still gets there.

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Why?

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Because it has a framework, it has a system, and it's navigating and it has support from

air traffic control and, you know, the the airport and and their home office.

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And you know, as a team, they all get to their destination every time.

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right.

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I mean think about going to the moon.

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Well

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it's not a s that's and we could do a whole episode on it's not a solo project, right?

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My my message is winning in business is a team sport.

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So learn to play well with others.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Um

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I w let's talk about your free gift and then we'll we'll we're almost out of time for this

episode, so let's tell everybody uh tell everybody about your free gift.

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I would really love for them to connect with you and learn more from you.

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I would love that too.

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So it is the seven essential needs to d that will drive your business forward.

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And it's really about, you know, helping you to be fully seen and and heard as yourself.

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It is a I don't know, I think it's, you know, about

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eight or nine pages is kind of it's it's because we go through each of the of the needs.

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But in there we talk about the need, I talk about the need, but I also give you some real

steps to take to start to activate that need.

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Because that's the idea.

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We're not just gonna think about it or learn about it, but how can we activate that need

in our life.

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Yeah, it sounds like if you want that guidance of like what are the steps that you need to

take, go get Faith's free gift.

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And I have conveniently put the link to it.

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right beneath this video.

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So there's super easy.

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like Faith said, it's short.

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So there's time should not be an issue.

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Go get that right now.

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And if you're listening to this on podcast, just open up your phone and it's right there

uh in the show notes, right on the whatever app you're using to listen to this episode.

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Um that's a great gift and I think a great next step for everybody to do.

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Right.

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And so yeah.

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open up um all kinds of possibilities.

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That's what if we could leave with any anything I think is that that life is full of

possibilities.

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And we

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and and that in fact let's let's let's do that because I always like to end on what I call

words of wisdom or, you know, uh advice.

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So what is your words of wisdom or or final advice for our audience?

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Thank you.

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So life is full of possibilities.

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So what it's we want to do is to stop the habit of holding ourselves back.

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It's a habit and then allow the gifts, your voice, your purpose that are already inside

you to come forward.

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Allow it.

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it to come forward.

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I love that.

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And those are beautiful words to end this episode by.

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And Faith, thank you.

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And uh it will definitely not be that long until the next uh the next time for sure.

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And um this is really good timing.

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And I can't wait to have you back on other shows and some of our um events that we do

throughout the year, and you can come and share your amazingness with them and inspire

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people to allow the gifts inside of them to come out and be more visible.

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Thank you, Chuck.

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It's been a pr always a a privilege and a pleasure to be here with you.

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I love it.

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Thank you, Faith.

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And to our audience, I want to tell you that if you're still listening to my voice, you

are here for a reason.

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This resonated with you.

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And I want you to know that the big impact that you want to make, um, and sometimes that

just means you want to make some money, but beyond the money, once you have the money,

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it's gonna go beyond that.

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I want you to know that it's possible.

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that more is possible, that the obstacles that you are experiencing can be overcome.

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You just might be one collaboration away from uh the solution that you're uh and the

breakthrough that you want.

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And perhaps faith is that person to collaborate with and to learn from and to even be

mentored by.

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And so I want you to uh take that next step and get her free guide and explore how faith

can help you and

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Again, remember that your journey is worth it.

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The gifts that you have are worth it.

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The only way to fail is to quit.

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So keep moving forward, and we will see you on the next one.

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Thank you.