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May 15, 2025 | 2 Samuel 13-15
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00:00 Intro

00:05 Youth Ministry and Upcoming Plans

01:53 Discussion on David's Sin and Its Consequences

05:31 The Power of Lust and Its Dangers

10:34 Absalom's Revenge and David's Passivity

16:26 Absalom's Rebellion and David's Flight

19:29 Prayer and Conclusion

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Speaker:

Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to another edition

of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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What's happening?

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It is Thursday, and so

we had youth last night.

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Pastor Rod, how much more do

you got in the gospel, Matthew?

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Let's see.

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Today is, I think four or five weeks.

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Okay.

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I, yeah we're gonna combine a couple of

them because we got VBS, but we're not

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gonna finish it as soon as we had hoped.

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But we are gonna, we are gonna finish it.

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And it's, we're doing a chapter

a week in preparation for the

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minor prophets this summer.

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It's a challenge to say the least.

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Trying to take a whole chapter

of a gospel and compress it into

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30 minutes, 35 minutes or so, is,

let's just call it a challenge.

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So what's the, afterwards?

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What's next?

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TBD.

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I don't know that book.

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Yeah, that's that's one of the books

that we don't talk about too much.

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They found it in the Dead

Sea scroll case, though.

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First opinions.

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Yeah.

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We're we're working on

the calendar right now.

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Cool.

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But we're probably also gonna be

making something of a transition

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this coming summer and fall.

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More on that soon enough hook.

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That is a hook.

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That's a meaty hook.

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Yeah, it is.

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Yeah.

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It's a big one.

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You're just gonna have to

sit on that one, folks.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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Good.

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My students.

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That I have involved in student ministry.

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My, my two oldest, they love it.

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It's something they look forward to.

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And now that Josh is

driving, we love it too.

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You guys get to go to your own

Blue Cantina or Blue Goose?

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Yeah.

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Your gray goose.

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Your Gray Goose restaurant.

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No, not Gray Goose.

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That's vodka.

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Is that the connection that you've made?

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Is that why you going alcohol on that?

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It must have been.

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That's gotta be it.

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It's just a Mexican food restaurant.

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Their chips and salsa amazing.

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Do they?

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Yeah.

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Homemade tortillas.

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So good in store.

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And the margaritas.

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Tell me about those.

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Th those, We were just talking about

searchability on our podcast a second

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ago, and here you're throwing out words

like mar margaritas and Gregory's vodka.

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Oh, that might put us up

in the rankings, honestly.

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Might Well, talking about Nintendo

Switch, these two pastors talking Yeah.

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Throwing Nintendo Switch, throwing vodka.

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We might do.

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Okay.

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Anyways, yeah.

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We're not young.

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Restless and reformed we're just reformed.

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Yeah, true.

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Not, we can't even sit

young anymore, can we?

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Nope.

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Nope.

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Yeah.

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Anyways hey, let's get

into our text for today.

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It's hard to be super lighthearted about

what we're reading in two Samuel 13

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through 15, but remember, it's important

to set the stage on this, that this

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is all connected back to David's sin.

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That what we're reading here as

we read through this, it's hard.

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Is it David's fault, pastor Rod,

answer that question for us.

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Is this David's fault?

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Is this David's fault, the

sin of two Samuel 13, 14, 15.

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This situation with Amon and Tamar

that we're about to get into.

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Yes.

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In an ultimate sense.

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And actually I, yeah, I could

draw more than one line.

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I could say, yes, God's

divine judgment is what?

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Prompted this, but I could

also say David's absenteeism.

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Yeah.

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Not stepping in when he should have

also did this, his unwillingness

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to confront Absalom also did this.

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His unwillingness to confront Amon did.

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I mean there's just, yes,

there's a ton of lines.

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Yeah.

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So it is God's judgment

first and foremost.

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It is God's response to David's

initial symbol that she but on top

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of that, there's David's negligence,

which also feeds into this.

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And I have a lot of bad things

to say about David, but man,

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I also have some really sweet

things to say about him as well.

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Yeah, I remember one of the

consequences that, that God doled

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out to David was that the sword

would never depart from his house.

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Yep.

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And we're gonna see

that in, in action here.

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So sad.

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The story is and here's the thing,

y'all, there's a word that is

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used in our culture for what takes

place between Amon and Tamar.

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I'm gonna use the word violate.

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And and that's the word that's gonna stand

in for the other word that's a little bit.

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More rated R than PG here.

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But this is a bad situation in second.

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Second Samuel 13 relationships.

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Let's talk relationships

really quick here.

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Amon and Tamar are half

brother and half sister.

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Amon or Tamar and Absalom are

fully related, fully blood.

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And so same mom, same dad, David.

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Dad, same mom.

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So this is a half sibling relationship.

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So we might ask, okay,

does that make this okay?

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And the answer is no.

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In fact, let's set the stage.

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So Amon has eyes for his

half-sister at Tamar.

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And rather than saying, this is

wrong I'm gonna discipline my mind

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and my affections not to go there.

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He allows a quote unquote friend of

his Jonah Dab, who's one of the most

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despicable figures in all of the Bible.

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It's crafty to persuade him to.

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Basically trick Tamar

into being alone with him.

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At that point, Amon takes

Tamar and violates her.

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But in, in the process of all

this, Tamar pleads with her brother

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in verse 12 and know my brother.

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Do not violate me for such a

thing as not done in Israel.

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Do not do this outrageous thing.

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Okay?

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It's not done in Israel.

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This goes back to the fact that.

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That Tamar knew the

law, she knew the Bible.

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Amon probably did too at this point.

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But in Leviticus 18, nine, it says,

you shall not uncover the nakedness of

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your sister, your father's daughter, or

your mother's daughter, whether brought

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up in the family or in another home.

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So there we have, it doesn't matter that

they were half siblings there, there's not

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some qualification that this was, okay.

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This is prohibited.

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This is against the law of God

given in Leviticus 18 verse nine.

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So this is wrong.

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What he's about to do here, it doesn't

matter that they're half siblings at all.

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Not that any of you are out there

wondering if it's okay in that regard.

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Anyways, here's the takeaway here.

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'cause, because Amon, you probably

know the story of chapter 13, takes

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her and violates her and then.

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It says afterwards hates

her and kicks her out.

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And she is sent away ashamed.

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And she even has the signs of being

a virgin, which is the long sleeves

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of her rope, which she has to tear

off as she goes back to her home.

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Absalom, her brother, finds out

about this, takes her into care for

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her because really no one else was

going to take her and no one else

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was gonna marry her at this point.

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So she was condemned to be essentially

a widow even though she's not

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a widow, she's condemned to, to

singleness for the rest of her life,

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bearing this shame that she had.

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But here's the thing to note here.

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I want you to see the power

of lust in two Samuel 13.

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Lust is often stronger than reason and

consumes the sinner with selfishness that

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makes the sinner unconcerned about the.

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Others that are gonna be hurt

in the process of satisfying and

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gratifying their own lusts, or even

just the consequences in general,

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or even consequences in general.

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'cause you'll notice here first he

had an opportunity to tell to Jonah

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Daab, you're a despicable human being.

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No, he didn't.

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Why?

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Because again he's giving

himself over to his lust.

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Then second, he has the

opportunity here to listen to.

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To, to Tamar, as Tamar is saying,

no as Tamar is saying, this is a

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wrong thing to do in fact, even

when she says speak to the king,

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he will not withhold me from you.

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Now, David was not gonna give Tamar

to Amon in any conceivable situation

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because it was against the law, but.

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But Tamar's just trying

to get away at this point.

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But Amon won't even listen when

confronted with the word of God.

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He's not willing to listen to reason.

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He's not willing to be confronted

with the word of God, saying,

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Hey, this is a wrong thing.

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Don't do this.

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This is against the law.

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And again, that goes back

to the power of lust.

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And so we need to be careful

about that and this used to be

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something that was reserved for.

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High school boys groups that when they

would split up, it was the girls go

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talk about mi modesty and guys, you come

over here, we're gonna talk about lust.

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But in today's society and culture,

this is no longer a and not that it

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was at that point either, but this

is no longer a one gender issue.

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This is something that's broad.

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I.

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And this is something that

is, is out there for all kinds

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of different access points.

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And lemme give you a caveat right now,

parents this may be a good time to, to

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push, pause and pick this up without

your, the ears of your little ones around.

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So I'm just gonna give you a second

to do that here because I wanna press

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in a little bit here so press pause.

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Okay.

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And then we're gonna count down.

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5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

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Okay.

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I wanna get in our kitchen a little bit.

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Obviously the big ticket item when

it comes to lust is pornography.

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And that is is super abundant

in our society and our culture.

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It's a click away.

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It's an apple away.

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It's just readily available anywhere

that you desire to, to find it.

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The other thing that is rising in

popularity and that's out there is the.

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The erotic literature that's out

there, these books that are very

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popular, especially among women.

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And they will read them and

they'll post about them on

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Instagram and everything else.

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And it's these fairytale figures

and so it divorces you from reality.

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And that's the thing that our lust so

often does, is it takes us out of reality

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and takes us into the realm of the

fantasy and makes it seem like it's no

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big deal because it's not anything that's.

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That's actually happening in person.

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And yet Paul says that when we give

into lust, we're sinning against our

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own flesh and blood, our own bodies.

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And we're, he even talks about in

one Corinthians chapter six that

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we're marrying, that we're bringing

Christ, we're bringing the spirit

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into that act of, he's talking about

being with a prostitute, but I think

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we can extend it when Jesus, in the

Sermon on the Mount compares our.

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Our lust to the physical act itself there.

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That this is an area that as the

church we can't give room to.

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There is not a territory of

respectable lust in the church.

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There's not a, it's okay for me

to have this closet over here

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that nobody else knows about.

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And church, men and women everybody

I'm talking to here within your shot

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of this is something that, that's,

it's sin that's gotta be killed at

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the root and it cannot be entertained.

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We can't have a little bit

and think it's no big deal.

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We've gotta get this out.

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It's insidious, it's horrible.

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And it is all consuming.

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And if you give it a foothold,

it will take everything and

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everything from you in the process.

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Yeah.

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And just to offer one quick verse on

this in First Thessalonians chapter

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four, in fact the guys and I are

gonna cover this this coming weekend.

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Yeah.

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And we will make reference

to second Samuel 13.

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But he says, Paul says to the

churches, says, God's will

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is for your sanctification.

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And part of that will looks like

abstaining from sexual morality.

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He doesn't just say, Hey

a little bit's, okay.

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Tolerate some, but make sure that

you're getting most of it out.

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He's saying abstinence is the only goal.

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Zero.

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A zero tolerance policy, not about your

school, but my school has a zero tolerance

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policy for cheating and for plagiarism.

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So if I cheat on a paper,

submit a paper that.

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Someone else wrote they will kick me

out and rightly there is a zero to

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tolerance policy from Paul about the

kind of expectation that we have for

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sexual morality because it's so rampant.

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This is so hard for a church today

because so many men are captured by sin

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and they're not even looking for it.

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Some men are just accosted by it because

they're at the wrong place at the wrong

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time, and the algorithm serves it up

saying, oh, you're gonna look at this.

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You're a male, you're in the.

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Proper age demographic.

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And so we have to be, especially on guard

today, more than we ever have before.

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It used to be that you have to go

into a shady, liquor store and go in

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a section, and you had to at least

face the fact that someone's gonna

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see you getting this stuff today.

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We have anonymity availability,

free availability and accessibility.

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Anonymity, avail.

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What's the, there's a three legged

stool that makes up the addiction cycle.

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I forget what that is, but

anonymity is one of them.

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Affordability, that's the one.

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And availability or accessibility.

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It's easy to get to.

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It's free, and you can, at least in

your mind, think that you're anonymous.

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This is such a dangerous thing

for us to get in involved with.

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We as a church have to do our job in

making sure that we're cultivating

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the kind of relationships where

we can talk about this stuff.

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And even though there is shame attached

to it, know that our shame can be.

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Taken care of or absolved we could

be cleansed from our shame to go back

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to yesterday's podcast in Christ.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Chapter 14 the situation was

not going to go well from here.

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It's not like everything

was gonna be okay.

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In fact, hold on.

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I'm skipping ahead.

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Chapter 13, I forgot.

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Doesn't end with just the

offense and Absalom taking Hi in.

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His sister Absalom's gonna get.

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Get revenge.

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And so here's the sword that's not

gonna depart from David's house.

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And now you've got Davidson that is,

is the seedbed here for Amon and Tamar.

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And then you've got, as a result

of Amon and Tamar, now the seedbed

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of the sin of Absalom here.

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And it is sin Salm, murders

Amon and sets up a trap for him.

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And we might say, yeah, but

Amon had it coming to him.

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Yes he did.

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He did.

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But this was not justice

in the sense of what.

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Justice should be, should look

like this was justice that was

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propped up by deception and some.

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Subterfuge and other things going on.

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It wasn't Absalom's place to

enact justice in this way.

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So even if it weren't the s

subterfuge, he's not the guy.

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It's not his to do that.

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Exactly.

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Yes.

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But Absalom does and takes

out Amon here and murders him.

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And as a result knows that now he's a

marked man, and so he flees and runs away.

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And that's where we pick up in chapter

14 is you've got this situation where

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this, the king son Absalom, who now

appears to be the next in line, w

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there were other sons of David that.

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We're not exactly sure what happened

to them other than they're not here.

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And Absalom appears to be the next guy up.

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And so you've got the heir to

the throne and the heir to the

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throne is not there and he's away.

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And so Joab in chapter 14 similar

with Nathan uses a woman to go

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in with a story before David.

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And David eventually figures

this out and he says, Hey, did

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Joe out put you up to this?

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And she says, basically, yeah but

you need to bring your son back.

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And so that's what happens in chapter 14.

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But this is certainly not reconciliation

because Absalom comes back but is kept

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away from the king and and forced to live

away from the king for two whole years.

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And so Absalom is reconciled to

the city, but not to his family.

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He's brought back to the

proximity of Jerusalem.

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But him and David are still

at odds with each other.

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And you've got Absalom thinking.

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I did nothing wrong.

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I went to the, to defend the honor

of my sister and probably despising.

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In fact, we know that from what happens

of chapter 15, but probably despising

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his father the whole time for the

weakness of him not doing anything,

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which is an interesting point in itself.

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Pr.

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Any thoughts on David's passivity in this?

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Yeah.

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David brought this on himself, 100%.

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Again, God's judgment primary, but

his David's complicity in this is

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that he didn't do anything to his son.

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He chose to ignore, overlook this

egregious violation of a sacred

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trust, and because of that, his

whole family basically starts to

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crumble right before his eyes.

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So I think there's a

lesson for us as fathers.

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I.

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Leaders in our own families to

make sure that we're doing the

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thing that we should be doing.

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Eli is charged with this too.

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God held Eli accountable because

he doesn't discipline his sons.

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He didn't restrain their

evil, is what scripture says.

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And here David does the same

thing in that he does nothing.

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He doesn't restrain the evil of his son.

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Now the question I have is why,

and I think the closest thing we

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get to it is the Greek lexicon,

which tells us that David loved

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him and didn't want to tell him.

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He didn't.

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I didn't wanna say anything about this

'cause I was afraid I'd heard him.

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He's my firstborn.

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He's the next in line.

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We do so much damage in our families

when we show favoritism and when we

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don't do the right thing or when we

even don't equitably rule and lead

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our families, that showcases that

our ultimate allegiance is God and

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not any single person in our family.

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So yes, absolutely.

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I put this at David's feet, and

this is an egregious violation

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that he should have stepped up to.

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Yeah I wonder in part yeah, I think

it's, it is because of his love for

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his son that the text says that.

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But I also wonder if it's a bad love

if there's not something there that.

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It just the shame, right?

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Like when we as Christians have a sin

in our past, very similar to a sin that

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we see in another brother or another

sister, we can be gun shy to confront

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that brother or sister about the sin

that they're, that we see them in.

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Because we're thinking about,

oh man I'm a hypocrite.

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Because I've done that myself.

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They're not gonna want to hear

from me because they're gonna

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look at me and think you did this.

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And so I wonder if David was gun

shy to confront Absalom, because

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Absalom would've been like, Hey,

I've got one name for you, Uriah.

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Do you remember Uriah dad?

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Do you remember what happened there?

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Sure.

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Yeah, that's absolutely right.

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Which is why we need such a strong

confidence in our standing with the Lord.

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That, that it's not our merit.

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That it's Christ and Christ alone in our

ability to care for brother Galatians

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six or Matthew 18 is rooted in the

fact that we are forgiven by Christ.

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And so if that person that we're going

to points back at us and says, look,

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yeah, but you've done the same thing.

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Yeah you know what?

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You're absolutely right.

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I have, and by God's grace, I've repented

from that and sought his forgiveness,

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and he's forgiven me, and now I'm

righteous in Christ's righteousness.

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And so I, I understand that.

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But and what I've done grieves

me, and that's why I'm so

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concerned for you right now, too.

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Totally.

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That needs to be our approach

rather than That must be.

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I'm, I've gotten enough time away from it

or I've done enough good that I feel good.

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I can go to somebody now.

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Yeah.

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Our standing is in Christ.

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That's what makes us bold and enough to

care for one another to say, look I know

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what it is to sin in egregious ways.

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I'm a dummy.

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Yeah.

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Don't be me.

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Don't do this.

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Or Let me help you now get out of this.

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There's so many other things he could

have done, and I think David's hard is

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pure here in that there probably is that

but it doesn't excuse his passivity.

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Yeah.

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If only, if anything it.

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It makes it worse because

he had something to say.

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He could have said, look,

son, I've been down this path.

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Yeah.

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Which on that note, fathers

do this with your kids.

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Let them see you repent.

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Let them see you fail.

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Let them hear you ask for forgiveness

when you need to ask for forgiveness.

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It's not a weakness.

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It's a good thing.

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I've said to my kids before, I

want you to be better than me.

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I want you to grow up to

be more godly than I am.

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I want you to pass me.

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To lap me.

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Not that I'm wanting to be an

ungodly person, but I want my

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kids to know man, that, that.

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That I'm a work in progress that

God is sanctifying me as well.

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And I need to be able to go to

them and say, Hey, I was wrong.

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Will you please forgive me for this?

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And and teach them that.

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And teach them what humility

looks like and things like that.

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And so men don't neglect

to do that with your kids.

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It's a lesson that they catch more

than that they're taught that they're,

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that is caught more than is taught

as they see that in your life.

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Chapter 15, then Absalom is going

to take things into his own hand.

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In fact, in verse one you'll read

there that he got himself a chariot and

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horses and 50 men to run before him.

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You might think, okay, interesting.

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Move on.

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That was a claim on the

throne by itself, right there.

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This was a move that

was a mark of royalty.

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The king would ride in the chariot and

have people in front of him like this.

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And so this is a move that Absalom

is making there to say, I'm taking

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authority into my own hands here.

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But then after that, Absalom

being a cunning man, went

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after the hearts of the people.

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And so it wasn't just that he was

gonna flex, but he was also going to

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win them over through this betrayal.

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And he does so by camping out of the

gate of the city and saying, oh, I

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would do better than my father would.

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And wouldn't it be great if things

were better than it is right now?

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And oh I could do this, and then.

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And before long, he wins enough

favor that he gathers everybody

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together and takes the throne.

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And David, again, in a moment

of passivity, rather than

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standing up and saying, no, this

isn't happening, I'm the king.

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And this is wrong.

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David runs he flees from this.

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And on his way out, there's

a lot that happens here.

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Hitha fell, who is one of his

counselors, ends up siding with Absalom.

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You've got this guy who's a, a, a.

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A foreigner Itai who comes and

David says, why don't you go back?

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You're a foreigner.

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You don't need to risk your life.

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And this foreigner pledges loyalty

to David in a great move there.

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And so he comes with David, and then

you've got this other guy HAI, who

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David says, Hey, I want you Hai,

you don't need to come with me.

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You go back and you try to thwart

the council of hit the fell.

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You try to undermine it.

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And then the priests come to him

with the arc and David says no.

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The arc belongs in Jerusalem.

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And if God sees to it, I'll

be, I'll come back to the arc.

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But the keep the arc in Jerusalem,

you guys go back and again, work

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for me from in Jerusalem there.

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There's a lot going on.

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As David is leaving, he's having

all of these different conversations

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with people that are trying

to figure out what's going on.

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But the long is short of it is David

is tucking tail and running from

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his synapse limb at this point.

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Yeah.

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And granted, I Absm had won the hearts of

the people, so I don't know how much David

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had and, but he wouldn't have done that.

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Had David been leading well to this point.

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I to that point, I wondered exactly that.

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How does David not know?

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Yeah.

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He's at the gate.

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Absalom is not doing this

quietly, I don't think.

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I just, man, David was a great leader

when he was walking with the Lord and

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then everything came to a startling halt

when he has his massive sin situation

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with Bathsheba, and then everything

just seems to crumble from there.

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Yeah.

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This begins.

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This is the beginning of the end for

David in terms of the legacy of pain that

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comes as a result of this massive sin.

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I'll never forget, you're ever only one

dumb decision away from ruining your life.

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This is evidence of some of that, which

your point about being at the gate, that

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was where the king would sit at this time.

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The king would actually, there,

there was remembering this.

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Now when we were in Israel the cities,

the city gates would have a seat

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at the gate where the king would

sit, and so it's likely that the

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David should have been at the gate.

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To hear the people and he wasn't there.

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And so Absalom took the place

that David should have been in,

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and that's why he's saying to the

people, oh, wouldn't it be great if

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somebody was here to hear your case?

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But where's the king?

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Oh look, I'm here.

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Yeah, I can hear your case for you.

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Just seems to me that even his

servants would've been like,

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Hey man, this isn't right.

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Lemme go tell the king about this.

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No, for sure.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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There's so many questions I have here.

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I just wanna know.

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Yeah.

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Let's pray.

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God make us a pure church, I pray.

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Lord lust is so strong and so

powerful and can be so destructive in

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families and individuals in a church.

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And so God, make us a pure church.

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I pray and ask for that

for your favor in that.

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And God help us to to fight for

that with our culture as well.

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God help us to lead our families

well to be faithful fathers.

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The way that, that, he, again,

David did so much that was good, but

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here we see some examples where he

really dropped the ball and we want.

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To be a church of strong men, strong

fathers, strong dads who shepherd

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and lead their families well.

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So help us to do that, Lord.

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And we need your help to do that.

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We need your grace to,

to enable us to do that.

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And so we pray that you

would give us that favor.

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We pray in Jesus name.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Keeper in your Bibles tuning

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edition, the Daily Bible Podcast.

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See you folks.

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Bye.

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Yeah.

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I would agree with

everything that you said

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