Welcome to Chat #16 of Season 3, in the Pictures and Ideals Out There podcast series! We talk about the reasons we do these podcasts and books, a Confederate statue in Charlottesville, Nobel Prize winner Claudia Goldin, the Equality for All Movement, the “Out There” Model, and more! We’re optimistic, imaginative, serious, funny, reflective, satirical, and grateful as we chat about topics with connections to Pictures and Ideals Out There concepts.  Please join us on Apple, Spotify and at picturesoutthere.com