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We Stopped Codeswitching and This is What Happened
Episode 1613th May 2026 • Codeswitch Rebellion • Melanie L. Denny
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You've heard Mel talk about stopping the performance. But what does it actually look like when you do?

In this episode, Mel sits down with career development and leadership coach Torriel Harris for a conversation that gets real about what happened when two Black women decided to stop code switching in their businesses, their branding, and how they show up every single day.

Links:

Torriel's Command the Room, Sis Program: torrielharris.net/ctrs

TikTok about President of Heritage Foundation: tiktok.com/t/ZP8pSQgt6/

Book a Digital Brand Audit: mellynated.com/digitalbrandaudit

Join the rebellion on Substack: substack.com/@mellynated

Subscribe to the YouTube channel: youtube.com/@melanieldenny

Be a Codeswitch Rebellion guest for season 2: mellynated.com/podcast

Timestamps:

0:00 — Introduction & Guest Overview

1:06 — Show Intro

1:45 — Welcome, Torriel Harris

2:17 — Torriel's Work & Why She Chose It

2:52 — Torriel's Journey: New York, California & Back

5:39 — How Her Business Was Born

6:13 — Fear of Niching Down to Black & Brown Women

7:53 — The Business Coach Who Pushed White Male Role Models

9:05 — Dealing With Trolls & Staying in Your Lane

10:12 — The Stats: Promotion Disparities for Women of Color

12:52 — The Movement to Get 1,000 Black & Brown Women Promoted 1

4:03 — Torriel's Personal Journey of Self-Acceptance

15:08 — Rejecting White Standards of Professionalism

16:15 — The Anti-Racist Art Center That Changed Everything

18:32 — Redefining What Professionalism Actually Means

21:17 — "Professionally Dope" — Knowing Your Zone of Genius

22:54 — Authentic Marketing: What You See Is What You Get

24:35 — The Layoff & The Journey Back to Self

27:26 — Self-Acceptance & Personal Branding as Identity Work

33:22 — Torriel's Program: Command the Room Sis

35:32 — Stop Downplaying Your Greatness

37:08 — Black Women Carry the Weight of the World

38:18 — Black Women as Catalysts for Change (The TikTok)

39:23 — Own Your Accomplishments

40:28 — Wrap Up & Season 2 Preview

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