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Solving a problem and starting a wedding business - interview with Amy Nelson from Wedding Day Dance.
Episode 3724th November 2022 • Wedding Pros who are ready to grow - with Becca Pountney • Becca Pountney
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How did you start your wedding business? Did you have a fully planned out idea or was it more of an evolution?

Today's guest Amy Nelson from Wedding Day Dance UK was an 'accidental' entrepreneur. Amy went to a wedding day as a guest, spotted a problem and realised she could provide the solution!

In today's episode Amy is sharing her business journey and how she went from teaching dance to owning a UK wide first dance agency.

Amy is one of my Wedding Pro lounge members and you could be too! Head to the link below to find out more.

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Amy:

I remember when social media started and I was like,

Amy:

oh, now I'm not doing that.

Amy:

And now here I am knowing I should be on TikTok, but I'm thinking,

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oh no, I'm in my mid forties.

Amy:

I can't be on TikTok.

Amy:

But you just have to get over that and roll with the times, don't you?

Becca:

I'm Becca Pountney, wedding business marketing expert,

Becca:

speaker and blogger, and you are listening to the Wedding Pros

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who are Ready to Grow Podcast.

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I'm here to share with you actionable tips, strategies, and real life

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examples to help you take your wedding business to the next level.

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If you are an ambitious wedding business owner that wants to take your passion

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and use it to build a profitable, sustainable business doing what you

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love, then you're in the right place.

Becca:

Let's get going with today's episode.

Becca:

Today I'm talking to Amy Nelson from Wedding Day Dance.

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Amy first joined my wedding pro members lounge at the start of this year, and

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it's been an absolute pleasure to get to know her and her business ever since.

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She's kind down to earth and wants to do business the right way.

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I know you're gonna love her too.

Becca:

Amy, welcome to the podcast.

Amy:

Hello, Becca.

Amy:

Thank you for having me

Amy:

. Becca: You are so welcome.

Amy:

It's great to have you here.

Amy:

Now, for anyone who doesn't know you or hasn't come across you before, do you

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wanna just explain to people who you are, what you do, and where you're based

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of course.

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So, my name's Amy and I live in Wiltshire in a town called Marlborough and I run

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a company called Wedding Day Dance uk.

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And we, or I say, we, I organize dance lessons for couples who are

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engaged and planning their wedding and want to do a lovely first

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dance, but don't know how to dance.

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So they would like some dance lessons ahead of the day to prepare for that.

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But I don't deliver the classes, all by myself, I have a team of teachers

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based all across the country, who, who teach the couples wherever their.

Becca:

Great.

Becca:

So basically the couples come to you and then you link them up with a

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dance teacher wherever they're based.

Becca:

Is that right?

Amy:

That's right, yeah.

Amy:

And it's very much about, I think customer service is really, really important.

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So it's not just saying to a dance teacher, oh, here's a couple.

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There you go.

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I kind of.

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Hold their hand and organize everything for them.

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So, where the lessons are gonna be, the schedule, the dates, and the time

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so everything is set out in stone.

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Because I mean, like everybody, my couples tend to be really busy.

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They, they tend to be working people.

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They don't have a lot of spare time.

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So the lessons are organized when they're free.

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But equally, my dance teachers are really busy too.

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They, they've got, they, they've got busy lives as well.

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So it's about putting those people together and finding the dates and times

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that they can get together and just focus on themselves and their first.

Becca:

Great.

Becca:

So that's where you are today as we talk, but as I like to do on this

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podcast, we like to go back in time a little bit and work out, or how

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did you get to where you are now?

Becca:

So if I take you right back, at what point did you first become self-employed?

Amy:

It was to teach someone to dance for their wedding.

Amy:

Actually, yeah, it was a long time ago now.

Amy:

I think it was in 2004, but it was, that was the first time I became self-employed.

Amy:

Well, it was to teach someone to dance for their wedding.

Amy:

Yeah,

Becca:

I love that.

Becca:

So were you a dance teacher before?

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Were you working for someone else?

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Where did you come from?

Amy:

So I, I've always danced my whole life.

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I really, really loved dancing.

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I really enjoy dancing, but I actually studied business but

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always danced at the same time.

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And then when I left university, I worked at a dance studio.

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But in the office, so not on, not in the studio, in the office, you see.

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So I was organizing everything but dancing at the same time.

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So I have a very split experience of those two things.

Becca:

So you're working for the dance studio, working in the office.

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So how did you end up teaching someone to dance for their wedding

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. Amy: So what happened, I'm, I'm not gonna

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wedding and it was a, it was lovely.

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It was all weddings are lovely and they.

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Came to the first dance bit and they said, oh, they're gonna do their first

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dance, and we're all watching as you do.

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And the couple, they just looked so embarrassed.

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They looked absolutely mortified.

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They weren't enjoying it at all.

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And I talked to myself, why are they putting themselves through this?

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It's not as if it's essential.

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You're still married even if you haven't done a first dance.

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And they just looked like they were hating every single second.

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And I.

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That's such a shame because they could have really enjoyed themselves

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or they could have just not done it.

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You know, it would've been either way, would've been fine, but why put

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yourself through that on, you know, the most special day of your life?

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And that just made me think, I wonder if generally that's a lot

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of couples kind of put themselves through that for absolutely no reason.

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Because all, all the need is a confidence boost.

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And then they would have a great time on, on the dance floor.

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And that just made me think about, is there such a thing as people

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taking lessons for their wedding?

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And I just Googled it and it turns out there was a company looking for

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dance teachers in my area at the time.

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So I just emailed them and said, I could do this job, , I could do this for you.

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And they said, yes, great.

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And I just started teaching dance for them.

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And even today that they're actually one of.

Becca:

Wow.

Amy:

They're still, they're still trading as well.

Amy:

Yeah.

Becca:

That's incredible.

Becca:

So you did that classic entrepreneur thing where you found a problem and

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decided that you needed to fix it.

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And it really is a problem because I have been to so many weddings and the first

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dance really is the most awkward part of the wedding because everyone feels

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like they've gotta do it and then just kind of shuffles around in a circle and

Becca:

just hope someone else will join them.

Amy:

Yeah.

Amy:

Yeah.

Amy:

And it's such a shame because it doesn't have to be like that at all.

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And then equally, if you really don't want to do it, I think just don't do it.

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Like you don't have to, you can do any, you don't have to do

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any part of your wedding apart from the legal parts, do you?

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So, yeah, I think if, if you really do want to do the first dance because

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you feel like you should then just take a couple of lessons and give

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yourself that confidence boost to go out there and not, not dread.

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And enjoy it and have lovely memories.

Becca:

I love that.

Becca:

So that is how you got your first bit of self-employment.

Becca:

So you started doing some freelance work for this other company.

Becca:

So now take us on the journey from how you got from there to what you are doing now.

Amy:

Yeah, so I, I was doing that, but I was still also working at

Amy:

the dance studio, and I think then just kind of word got around.

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That's what I did.

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And then I just started having a lot of inquiries in my, in my local area.

Amy:

And then I made my own website.

Amy:

That's what I did.

Amy:

Yeah, I made my own website just for teaching dance in my local area.

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And I was literally, during the summer, I was literally working in the office during

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the day in the dance studio office, and then I was teaching every, every night

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and all weekend teaching wedding dance.

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And I just realized there's a massive call for this.

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But you know what?

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I really like teaching wedding dance.

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But I don't really wanna be working every day and every night and every

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weekend cause it's just too much.

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And so I kind of had to choose, I had to choose whether to stay employed at

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the dance studio or take that jump to be self-employed and launch my own company.

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I, I knew just working for myself locally wouldn't be enough.

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To, my living because you have to be available when the couples are available,

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which is basically evenings and weekends.

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And I knew that just working evenings and weekends, I didn't really want to do

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that because it's not very sociable and you miss out on family life and stuff.

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So I knew I wanted to work during the day and I just thought,

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actually this could be an idea.

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And I think I just took a leap of faith and just went for it really.

Amy:

But that, that was a long time ago now, in 2008 I started that and, and it's, and

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it turns out it was the right thing to do.

Becca:

I love that.

Becca:

So I would say, Amy, you're almost an accidental entrepreneur because you

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didn't set out to start your business.

Becca:

No.

Becca:

The business has definitely evolved with you over time, but there did

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come that point where you had to make that decision, do I stick

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with my job or do I go for this?

Becca:

So what factors made that happen and how did you find the confidence to do that?

Becca:

Because that's something that a lot of people struggle with.

Amy:

That's a very good point.

Amy:

I think because I'd had that business background, I knew how to do it.

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And I think like a lot of people, I think just trial and error

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thinking, oh what, what do I do now?

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What should I do here?

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What should I do there?

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What's the best thing to do?

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And just learning and using things I didn't know about, but also

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not being afraid to ask for help.

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So I knew, for example, I don't know how to build a website.

Amy:

I had someone do that for me and things like, I don't know

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how to do my tax returns.

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So I had someone do that for me.

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So I think doing.

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What you can do or what you can learn to do great.

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And then the things that you cannot do or haven't got the time to learn how

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to do, get someone to do that for you.

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And that's how you can progress much quicker than thinking,

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I've got to do this for myself.

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Because in business, we really are an expert in our own fields, but you have

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to be an expert in all of the fields.

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To cover everything.

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So to kind of outsource those things and ask for help and get like a

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wider team, I think is, is the probably the quickest way and the

Amy:

most effective way to achieve that.

Becca:

That's really, really helpful.

Becca:

So as you look back over the last few years in business, you've been

Becca:

doing this a long time now, how do you think things have evolved for you?

Becca:

Has things changed?

Becca:

Has the way you run your business changed over the last few years?

Amy:

Some things are exactly the same in that people still love, they love the

Amy:

idea of dancing, and it makes them happy.

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And the couples who, who, who book the dance lessons, they're

Amy:

very much in love with each other and they really want to have a

Amy:

brilliant time on their wedding day.

Amy:

That, that, that will never change.

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But what changes around you?

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For example, social media, that's a massive, back when I

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started, that wasn't even a thing.

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I think I, maybe Facebook might have been around, but not for business.

Amy:

So of course that became for business.

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And then Instagram.

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Now TikTok, not that I'm on TikTok, but I know I should be.

Amy:

So that whole way of doing business is completely changed.

Amy:

When I first started, it was very much about being on Google was

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the only way, but now, but that's still really important, obviously.

Amy:

The social media side of things has completely changed as well.

Amy:

And also with the technology.

Amy:

So back then it was CDs.

Amy:

Yeah, it wasn't tape.

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So the dance teacher, I would have to send the dance teacher the song for them to

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burn onto a cd, and then they would then go along with their cd player and play it.

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Of course, now everyone uses spotify, like you don't even think about

Amy:

where do you get the music from?

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It's just there, unless, of course the music's been edited together,

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which does happen quite a lot.

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And then of course we have to send the file over as a link, but that's, you

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know, that's, that's no problem at all.

Amy:

So the whole technology side of things has changed massively.

Amy:

And how could people communicate?

Amy:

Of course, back then it would've been everyone's on a laptop or.

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A physical computer, but now everyone's on their phone, so that,

Amy:

that's been a big change as well.

Becca:

So how have you managed to keep up with the changes?

Becca:

Because that's one thing people get scared about, that they'll start

Becca:

a business, they'll understand it, and then things will change and

Becca:

they won't understand it anymore.

Becca:

What have you done personally to make sure you're keeping up and understanding

Becca:

where you should be taking your business?

Amy:

Hmm.

Amy:

So that's a good question.

Amy:

I'm not sure I'm brilliant at that to be honest with you because I you

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know when social media started and I was like, oh no, I'm not doing that.

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And then you realize you do need to.

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And then when Instagram came same, and now here I am knowing I should

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be on TikTok, but I'm thinking, oh no, I'm in my mid forties.

Amy:

I can't be on TikTok.

Amy:

But you just have to get over that and roll with the times, don't you?

Amy:

So I think just, yeah, just that.

Amy:

Just thinking you need to keep going with it.

Amy:

You know, when websites started becoming mobile thinking, you've

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got to have your website redesigned.

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You can't just sit back thinking, oh, it'll be fine.

Amy:

They'll just go to their laptop one day.

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You need your mobile, your website to be mobilized and, and being aware

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of how people look for you as well.

Amy:

So, if you go onto your Google Analytics, for example, you can see the

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date, the, the times of the week that people are more likely to be looking.

Amy:

And for me, I can tell it is basically people who are working because they're

Amy:

looking at their lunchtimes and they're looking in the evenings and

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it's thinking what's their life like?

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How can I make myself visible to them when.

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Looking for me, which is very different to before, because back then you'd

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just be, I'm on Google, you come to me whenever you are ready, . So that's,

Amy:

that's probably a consideration.

Amy:

But I must, I do need to get better at moving, moving further with the times

Amy:

and keeping up because it's so important with all the different algorithms

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changing and different versions of things.

Amy:

If you sit in your laurel the world will overtake you and your competitors will

Amy:

keep up and then you'll be left behind.

Becca:

Yeah, I think that's a really important point actually, that

Becca:

if we sit on our laurels and just keep doing the same old things that

Becca:

we've always done, you're right.

Becca:

Our competitors will take us over.

Becca:

So how do you keep engaged?

Becca:

Do you look at what your competitors are doing?

Becca:

Do you try and stay on your own lane?

Becca:

Do you do a bit of both?

Becca:

How does that work?

Amy:

I do try and stay on my own lane, to be honest with you,

Amy:

because I'm doing what I'm doing and they're doing what they're doing.

Amy:

So it's a very different thing and, and the couples can make their choice of

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which ones they think resonates more with them and which is the right one to do.

Amy:

I think it's really important to think about your own branding and

Amy:

your own skillset and your own ideas.

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And go along with it like that.

Amy:

I remember a time, maybe six, seven years ago where I realized that all of the

Amy:

websites of my main, there aren't many of us, but my main competitors all purple.

Amy:

And at that point I was like, when I, my new website was coming up and I thought,

Amy:

I need to do a different, I need to totally change this because there'll be

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confusion with which company is which.

Amy:

So you need to change that so that it's not purple anymore.

Becca:

I love that we shouldn't be frightened of our competitors either.

Becca:

There's an exercise.

Becca:

No, definitely not.

Becca:

There's an exercise that I like to do with people sometimes where

Becca:

I say, look at your competitors.

Becca:

Look at what they do better than you, and then make sure you learn how to do that

Becca:

better, and look at what you do better than them and use that as your marketing.

Becca:

There's no need to be scared of your competitors at all, so no,

Amy:

no, no, no.

Amy:

In fact, you can work together.

Amy:

I have.

Amy:

There's this lovely.

Amy:

To, I've never met her, but we have a really nice relationship

Amy:

on, on, on messaging each other.

Amy:

And if there's ever a situation where I can't fulfill a client's needs, I don't

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know, maybe the dance teacher in their local area is on maternity leave and I

Amy:

haven't got a replacement at that time.

Amy:

I will literally say, Email my competitor, because at the end of the day, what's

Amy:

most important is the customer service.

Amy:

That the client gets what they want.

Amy:

And this client wants dance lessons and I can't, I can't give that to them.

Amy:

So if I refer them to a lady who I know who I really like her work, I really trust

Amy:

her to to give the client a good service.

Amy:

And of course, it works backwards.

Amy:

So when she can't do that, she then sends clients my way as well.

Amy:

So it works really.

Becca:

Yeah, that's so important.

Becca:

Now when we talk about your business journey, we can

Becca:

make it sound really simple.

Becca:

You just went from here to there and then it's all been rosy.

Becca:

I'm sure that's not the truth.

Becca:

So has there been things over the years that have been a

Becca:

challenge of being self-employed?

Becca:

What are the things that have you found the hardest?

Amy:

Yeah, so there are, yeah, of course everyone, everyone who self-employed

Amy:

has challenges and, you know, family life and time and having babies that

Amy:

really makes it more difficult to put time into your business, but also for my

Amy:

particular business as the seasons go by.

Amy:

So it's very, very seasonal, busier in the summer, which is obviously what

Amy:

you'd expect in the wedding industry.

Amy:

But still, people get married all year round.

Amy:

And for me, my dance teachers, they're.

Amy:

Very different.

Amy:

So some of them might have their dance schools, and so they teach this, they

Amy:

work for me alongside their dance schools.

Amy:

Some of them might be mums and so they work part-time and they teach here.

Amy:

Some of them will be teachers, dance teachers in schools.

Amy:

Some of them will be West End dancers.

Amy:

And so they'll, they'll only work for me when they're not in a performance run.

Amy:

Some will be on cruise ships and so they'll come when they get back.

Amy:

So it's, it's that ebb and flow of what people are doing and where people are

Amy:

based and keeping up with everybody.

Amy:

But also things like, for example, Christmas is a really big thing in

Amy:

the dance industry because there's lots of Christmas shows, there's lots

Amy:

of pantomimes things like performers, elves in grottos, that kind of thing.

Amy:

A lot of dancers will, will do that at Christmas.

Amy:

So you have this workforce that suddenly, Between sort of like

Amy:

November and December, they're just not available because they've got

Amy:

a full-time contract for pantomime.

Amy:

So it's kind of dealing with that and knowing it's gonna happen and

Amy:

then making adjustments accordingly.

Becca:

Yeah, so it's not always plain sailing.

Becca:

There's always difficulties in business.

Becca:

Yeah.

Becca:

But what do you think are the best things about being self-employed?

Becca:

What have you loved about taking that leap and having your own control over your.

Amy:

I think it's the sense of satisfaction of knowing

Amy:

that you've made that happen.

Amy:

My favorite thing is when a couple will, after they've got married,

Amy:

they'll send me, hopefully, I love when they do photos, videos, messages.

Amy:

And when that email pops through and you open up those pictures,

Amy:

it's just, it's just brilliant.

Amy:

I love it.

Amy:

And I love hearing all their stories about their wedding day and how it went

Amy:

and how they found everything and how much they enjoyed their dance lessons

Amy:

and all of that, I think is the most, is the best part, is it's why I do it.

Amy:

And I think when you're employed, you, you, you, obviously you would have

Amy:

job satisfaction too depending on what you're doing, but I just think you

Amy:

don't have the same ownership of it.

Becca:

Yeah, that's so true.

Becca:

And also it shows that you've solved that problem that Right.

Becca:

Way back at the start you were wanting to solve, which was stopping people shuffling

Becca:

around awkwardly on a dance floor,

Amy:

Yeah.

Amy:

Getting awkward.

Becca:

Exactly.

Becca:

So obviously you've been in business a long time.

Becca:

You've talked about keeping up with the trends, so you obviously think personal

Becca:

development is important in your business.

Becca:

We talked, I talked in the intro about how you joined the

Becca:

members lounge earlier this year.

Becca:

So what things do you do in your business to keep on top of things, to make

Becca:

sure you are doing your own personal development and training, and what have

Becca:

you got out of being part of that group?

Amy:

Yeah.

Amy:

Well, I, yeah, I think educating yourself is the best way that you can to set

Amy:

those footprints to your own success.

Amy:

The more you.

Amy:

The more knowledge you have, the more you can not make mistakes because you have

Amy:

the foresight of, of what's going on.

Amy:

And also when you, I find anyway that when I do a training session,

Amy:

hear somebody speak, for example, you had that lovely man on yesterday

Amy:

about branding from Airbnb.

Amy:

Different ideas come into your mind.

Amy:

And also it's just, I find it very motivational as well

Amy:

to learn new things and to.

Amy:

We could do this, could do that.

Amy:

And even if it doesn't really apply to you, it's still interesting in

Amy:

what the people around you are doing as well, other people in the group.

Becca:

Yeah, I agree.

Becca:

It's so important to keep on learning and sometimes you think, I don't need

Becca:

this, and then you just take a little nugget away that leads to something

Becca:

else and makes one small change, and then you think, oh yeah, I'm

Becca:

really glad I listened to that now.

Becca:

Yeah.

Becca:

So in terms of being self-employed, I know one thing people struggle with

Becca:

is that sense of loneliness being.

Becca:

Being in your own head all of the time.

Becca:

Yeah.

Becca:

What have you done over the years to make sure that you've got

Becca:

people around, you got community?

Becca:

How have you made that work?

Amy:

Well, to be honest with you, for years and years and

Amy:

years, it was like it is lonely.

Amy:

It was lonely.

Amy:

Especially in the early days before social media, there wasn't, there weren't ways,

Amy:

I didn't know, anyway, to kind of branch out to other people in the industry.

Amy:

I mean, there was local networking and I did try that, but when you

Amy:

go along and you're spending.

Amy:

Your work time talking to people who are not in your industry.

Amy:

It isn't massively beneficial to you, but going but that, but now these days

Amy:

it's so easy to connect with people in the industry, obviously by your group.

Amy:

And for example, last week in Birmingham there was this, you set up this brilliant

Amy:

networking event in In the Cube, which was just a fabulous place to visit, wasn't it?

Amy:

And it's just brilliant to go along and meet people in the wedding industry,

Amy:

and I think especially post covid.

Amy:

That's something I'm really, really, really enjoying and I kind of

Amy:

didn't realize how much I missed it until we've got it back again.

Becca:

Yeah, I'm definitely all about the in person events at the moment.

Becca:

It's so much better to be in person and if you are listening to this and you are

Becca:

thinking, oh, I just wish I could find.

Becca:

Some other people in the industry, just get onto social media, get onto Google

Becca:

and search, because there will be groups.

Becca:

There's my groups, but there'll be other groups.

Becca:

There might be groups that meet in your local area.

Becca:

There might be conferences coming up in your local area for the wedding industry.

Becca:

So just search them out.

Becca:

Look and even if you wanna post in one of my groups and ask if there's anyone local

Becca:

to you to meet up with for a coffee, I'm more than happy for people to do that.

Becca:

So as business owners, Amy, we talked about the juggle.

Becca:

Life is one big juggle.

Becca:

You've got small children.

Becca:

The whole thing is a juggle.

Becca:

How are you managing to keep life and business going?

Becca:

? Amy: That's a very good question.

Becca:

I have a lot of lists.

Becca:

I think most working mums do.

Becca:

It's a case of prioritizing, isn't it?

Becca:

And thinking, what do I have to do right now that is the

Becca:

most important thing to do?

Becca:

And not being distracted by things which seem like they're really

Becca:

important at that moment in time.

Becca:

But actually the the most important thing you're trying to get done.

Becca:

You don't get done because these little things that are kind of nagging at you.

Becca:

But it is, it is tricky.

Becca:

But I think just trying to be as focused as possible and trying to be as organized

Becca:

as possible is the way forwards.

Becca:

And using things that you can to make that happen, like scheduling

Becca:

social media posts, using your out of office so people you know, so

Becca:

you can communicate and then people.

Becca:

What's going on?

Becca:

I think communication is so important because the better you can

Becca:

communicate, that's the best way to avoid miscommunication and conflicts

Becca:

and things going wrong, basically.

Becca:

So all about communication, scheduling, I'm remembering to take time out for

Becca:

yourself as well and not thinking I must work every night because,

Becca:

you know, because I should And thinking about working smart and

Becca:

that's rather than working hard.

Becca:

You're so right because as entrepreneurs we are the worst at working

Becca:

all of the hours and not taking enough breaks, which brings me nicely on to

Becca:

one of my favorite segments on the podcast when I interview people, which

Becca:

is all about wedding pros chilling out.

Becca:

So what I'd love to know, Amy, from you, is what do you do in your life

Becca:

to try and get away from business and have some time for yourself?

Amy:

That's a very good question.

Amy:

So, and this, this probably sounds really silly, but I think generally everyone's

Amy:

very, very busy and I find I'm in the car, I'm here, I'm there, I'm grabbing

Amy:

shopping the errands, the running, the children, the the doing this, doing that.

Amy:

And I find just being able to go for a walk seems like a massive privilege.

Amy:

It sounds really silly, but just to have.

Amy:

Time just to have a short walk.

Amy:

I find it just clears your head.

Amy:

It makes you feel so much more energized.

Amy:

I used to be thinking I should be, I should be running, I should be exercising.

Amy:

And it's took me years and years to realize my body is

Amy:

not made for running at all.

Amy:

But when I walk, it just makes me feel really, really energized and calm.

Amy:

And I love arriving at a place where I've just walked there and just so.

Amy:

Just relaxed and ready for the moment, whereas in and out the car, or, or

Amy:

just, you know, going of a weekend, going somewhere beautiful and having

Amy:

a lovely walk in the sunshine.

Amy:

It's.

Amy:

I find that really relaxing.

Amy:

But then of course that is quite a tricky thing to do when you have a family.

Amy:

So we like playing games.

Amy:

So things like, my kids have got a switch and there's a game called

Amy:

Just Dance, where you all hold this little controller thing and you

Amy:

all follow the same dance routine.

Amy:

And I find for us as a family, that's a really good way to relax.

Amy:

Cause everyone's just focusing.

Amy:

On the same thing at the same time.

Amy:

And once you do meet, you don't think about anything else.

Amy:

So, so for us, yeah, walking and playing a computer game is kinda the best of it.

Becca:

I, I'm totally on board with that.

Becca:

We love a bit of just dance in my household as well, but I get far

Becca:

too competitive and then one of my children ends up crying cause I

Becca:

keep beating them all of the time.

Becca:

So do you still dance?

Becca:

Do you still dance for yourself?

Becca:

Do you dance to relax?

Becca:

Cause one of the things that I find for myself is being involved still

Becca:

in performance, singing, dancing, really takes me to another world.

Becca:

Do you get the opportunity to do that anymore?

Amy:

I don't dance to be honest with you, but I would love to.

Amy:

I live in quite a small town and there isn't.

Amy:

There is.

Amy:

There is.

Amy:

There is.

Amy:

There is a dance class I could go to, but at the same time, I'm also

Amy:

taking my daughter to another dance class, so I can't go to that one.

Amy:

But no, I would love, and I keep, it's actually my new resolution

Amy:

to get myself to dance classes.

Amy:

I'd have to travel a bit for it because it's doing something for you, isn't it?

Amy:

And.

Amy:

Taking time out and doing something for you, and especially

Amy:

when it's an exercise thing.

Amy:

So, no, I wish I did have more time, but I do, I do really love visiting the

Amy:

theater, which I, which I do have more time for than actually dancing myself.

Amy:

I recently saw the musical six.

Amy:

I don't know if you've seen that one.

Amy:

It's just amazing.

Becca:

I haven't seen it, but it's on my list to see because I

Becca:

absolutely love the soundtrack.

Amy:

Yeah.

Amy:

Yes, yes, yes.

Amy:

It's very, very good.

Becca:

Well, I'm gonna hold you accountable to the Amy for the new year

Becca:

to go out and find yourself dance class, because honestly, my New Year's resolution

Becca:

last year was to start my singing lessons back up and it's been so wonderful to

Becca:

just get out my house, sing, and then come home again and get back into life.

Becca:

So it's some really good self care.

Becca:

So get yourself along to a class and let me know when you've done.

Amy:

I will, I definitely will.

Becca:

Now, in those other times when we're not out doing classes and we're

Becca:

just sat in front of the TV and we're watching Netflix, we're sharing on

Becca:

the podcast at the moment, things that we're watching on Netflix so that we

Becca:

can find, help other people find through that catalog of what to watch next.

Becca:

So what are you into at the moment?

Becca:

What are you watching on tv?

Amy:

So right now it's strictly season, so I must admit.

Amy:

I've not watched Netflix in a while because I'm quite into strictly.

Amy:

I really enjoy it.

Amy:

And of course it's on every day, isn't it?

Amy:

So you've got, you know, you've got the live show Saturday, the results

Amy:

on Sunday, and then all through the week on channel two you've

Amy:

got that other program takes two.

Amy:

So I'm afraid I haven't actually watched Netflix in some time because, Of that.

Amy:

But you know what?

Amy:

Come the final I'll be, I'll be clicking away.

Amy:

What next?

Amy:

What next?

Amy:

What can I watch now?

Amy:

So yeah, I'm afraid.

Amy:

I haven't actually watched Netflix in a while, but I've really been

Amy:

enjoying this season of strictly.

Becca:

Well, if people are looking for something to watch, they could catch

Becca:

up on all the episodes of strictly.

Becca:

They're still all on.

Becca:

iPlayer

Amy:

Oh, so many.

Amy:

So many.

Amy:

I send you to come as well because, well, we've.

Amy:

The big Blackpool one this weekend, which is always a good week.

Becca:

Oh, yes.

Becca:

So I worked on strictly, I don't know if I've ever told you that, but

Amy:

I didn't know that.

Amy:

No, I didn't know that.

Amy:

Yes.

Amy:

What, what, when was that?

Becca:

Oh, it was many, many, many years ago.

Becca:

When Gary Rhodes the chef was on it.

Becca:

That's one of the only people I can remember was on it.

Amy:

Oh, that's one of the early, early.

Becca:

Yes.

Becca:

Yeah.

Becca:

But what I discovered when I worked there, which you probably know and everyone else

Becca:

probably knows as well, is the reason they go to Blackpool every year for once one

Becca:

show a a series, is so that they can get out of the studio for children in need.

Amy:

Oh, I did not know that There go, but that does make sense.

Amy:

Cause that's tomorrow, isn't it?

Amy:

Yeah.

Becca:

There you go.

Becca:

You got some insider knowledge.

Becca:

Now they have to clear the, they have to clear the studio for children in

Becca:

need and that's why they always go to Blackpool on the children in need weekend.

Amy:

I see, I see.

Amy:

Oh, that's good.

Amy:

That works well for everyone then, because it does kind of make a nice break to the

Amy:

series to go to that incredible ballroom.

Amy:

You can always, you can dance on any floor, but when you're

Amy:

dancing on the sprung floor, it just feels and looks amazing.

Amy:

I don't, so if you're watching strictly and you see that Blackpool and have a

Amy:

look at their feet, because you'll see they're just, they're really bouncing off

Amy:

of that floor because it's so well sprung.

Becca:

Love that, that's such a dance geeky chat that we've just had.

Becca:

But I, I'm here for it and I know that lots of my listeners.

Becca:

So into musical theater and dancing.

Becca:

So if you're not, just bear with us.

Becca:

We just enjoyed talking about that strictly.

Becca:

It's a great show and you should definitely be watching it.

Becca:

Okay, Amy, before I let you go, I always end my interviews with the same question,

Becca:

which is, what is one thing you wish you'd known sooner in your business?

Amy:

Okay, this is quite boring, but ages.

Amy:

I didn't realize the importance of the bounce rate.

Amy:

So how many people leave your website and I think from.

Amy:

For investigating that you can, you can learn so much about the

Amy:

patterns of behavior, of how people are finding you and also

Amy:

what they're not liking about you.

Amy:

So for example, I remember years ago I had a Google ads.

Amy:

Campaign set up.

Amy:

And it was running and it was running and I wasn't unhappy with it.

Amy:

But I went to, I basically went to a training session to learn a bit

Amy:

of all maps, seo and the bounce rate was, was explained to me.

Amy:

Of course, I went, went home, looked at my Google Analytics, looked at all

Amy:

these things, looked at my bounce rate, and I was absolutely horrified to see

Amy:

that I'd actually been paying for.

Amy:

A campaign that had a massive, massive bounce rate of such a waste of money,

Amy:

and that would work, you know, with all different sorts of campaigns or any

Amy:

kind of marketing that you do, unless you keep an eye on that bounce rate,

Amy:

you could put all your efforts into something that just isn't working for you.

Amy:

Cuz people are looking at that and going, Nope, I don't like that.

Amy:

and just jumping off straight away.

Amy:

So now that I understand that, that's made a big difference to what I do.

Amy:

Knowing to put my efforts into what I know people will stay on my website for,

Amy:

which is a better use of my time as.

Becca:

That's a really interesting point.

Becca:

So if anyone listening that doesn't know what a bounce rate is, it's the

Becca:

people that just come to your website and then bounce straight off, which

Becca:

is why it's called a bounce rate, and they basically leave straight away.

Becca:

And you can find that inside of your Google Analytics.

Becca:

So I would recommend if you get a chance to go on your Google Analytics,

Becca:

just like Amy said, go and have a look at your bounce rate and if it.

Becca:

Is exceptionally high, then maybe have a think about why that is.

Becca:

And actually, Amy, maybe that would be a great thing for me to get someone into

Becca:

the members lounge to talk about Yes.

Becca:

Yeah.

Becca:

How to improve your bounce rate.

Becca:

Yeah.

Amy:

Yeah, absolutely.

Amy:

And then if you learn a bit more about analytics, you have to, you know, play

Amy:

around with a bit and get to know it.

Amy:

You can actually find out, you can match it against other categories and you

Amy:

can find out of the people that bounce.

Amy:

Where they've come from first as well.

Amy:

So then you know not to invest in those places where the branch rate is highest.

Amy:

It's, it's really interesting, but it's quite technical and quite detailed and

Amy:

it's the kind of thing that you do need a bit of training on to understand.

Amy:

But then once you do, It's, it's invaluable to the success

Amy:

of your future business.

Amy:

Incredible.

Becca:

And I am now gonna go and find an expert to talk to us in the

Becca:

members lounge about that very subject.

Becca:

Cause I think that would be really helpful for lots and lots of people.

Becca:

Amy, it's been a pleasure to chat to you on the podcast today.

Becca:

If people wanna find out more about you or get in touch, where's the

Becca:

best place for them to find you?

Amy:

So on my website, which is wedding day dance uk.co.uk, or you can email me.

Amy:

The address is Amy Wedding Day dance uk.co uk, and there's Instagram as well and a

Amy:

little bit of Facebook and not yet TikTok.

Becca:

Maybe one day TikTok.

Becca:

We can just Google.

Becca:

Google the company and amazing.

Becca:

I will put the links to all of those things in the show notes below the

Becca:

episode, and I'm sure you're more than happy for people to reach out if they've

Becca:

got questions or they wanna work with you.

Amy:

Yeah, that would be amazing.

Amy:

I would love that

Amy:

. Becca: Fabulous.

Amy:

Amy, it's been a pleasure.

Amy:

I look forward to catching up with you again soon.

Amy:

Thanks for today.

Amy:

Thanks, Becca.

Amy:

That was wonderful.

Amy:

Thank you.

Amy:

Bye.

Becca:

Really love that conversation with Amy today.

Becca:

Hopefully you found it inspiring too, and who would've known the Google

Becca:

bounce rate could be so interesting.

Becca:

Highly recommend you go and check.

Becca:

Out that one.

Becca:

If you're interested in being part of a community with myself and Amy's in

Becca:

there too, then why not go and check out the Wedding Pro member's lounge?

Becca:

I'd love to welcome you into our community.

Becca:

If you're a wedding pro anywhere in the UK or around the world and you want

Becca:

like-minded professionals to network with, chat with, grow With, cry with, and great

Becca:

business training every single month, then go and take a look in the show notes.

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