How did you start your wedding business? Did you have a fully planned out idea or was it more of an evolution?
Today's guest Amy Nelson from Wedding Day Dance UK was an 'accidental' entrepreneur. Amy went to a wedding day as a guest, spotted a problem and realised she could provide the solution!
In today's episode Amy is sharing her business journey and how she went from teaching dance to owning a UK wide first dance agency.
Amy is one of my Wedding Pro lounge members and you could be too! Head to the link below to find out more.
I remember when social media started and I was like,
Amy:oh, now I'm not doing that.
Amy:And now here I am knowing I should be on TikTok, but I'm thinking,
Amy:oh no, I'm in my mid forties.
Amy:I can't be on TikTok.
Amy:But you just have to get over that and roll with the times, don't you?
Becca:I'm Becca Pountney, wedding business marketing expert,
Becca:speaker and blogger, and you are listening to the Wedding Pros
Becca:who are Ready to Grow Podcast.
Becca:I'm here to share with you actionable tips, strategies, and real life
Becca:examples to help you take your wedding business to the next level.
Becca:If you are an ambitious wedding business owner that wants to take your passion
Becca:and use it to build a profitable, sustainable business doing what you
Becca:love, then you're in the right place.
Becca:Let's get going with today's episode.
Becca:Today I'm talking to Amy Nelson from Wedding Day Dance.
Becca:Amy first joined my wedding pro members lounge at the start of this year, and
Becca:it's been an absolute pleasure to get to know her and her business ever since.
Becca:She's kind down to earth and wants to do business the right way.
Becca:I know you're gonna love her too.
Becca:Amy, welcome to the podcast.
Amy:Hello, Becca.
Amy:Thank you for having me
Amy:. Becca: You are so welcome.
Amy:It's great to have you here.
Amy:Now, for anyone who doesn't know you or hasn't come across you before, do you
Amy:wanna just explain to people who you are, what you do, and where you're based
Amy:of course.
Amy:So, my name's Amy and I live in Wiltshire in a town called Marlborough and I run
Amy:a company called Wedding Day Dance uk.
Amy:And we, or I say, we, I organize dance lessons for couples who are
Amy:engaged and planning their wedding and want to do a lovely first
Amy:dance, but don't know how to dance.
Amy:So they would like some dance lessons ahead of the day to prepare for that.
Amy:But I don't deliver the classes, all by myself, I have a team of teachers
Amy:based all across the country, who, who teach the couples wherever their.
Becca:Great.
Becca:So basically the couples come to you and then you link them up with a
Becca:dance teacher wherever they're based.
Becca:Is that right?
Amy:That's right, yeah.
Amy:And it's very much about, I think customer service is really, really important.
Amy:So it's not just saying to a dance teacher, oh, here's a couple.
Amy:There you go.
Amy:I kind of.
Amy:Hold their hand and organize everything for them.
Amy:So, where the lessons are gonna be, the schedule, the dates, and the time
Amy:so everything is set out in stone.
Amy:Because I mean, like everybody, my couples tend to be really busy.
Amy:They, they tend to be working people.
Amy:They don't have a lot of spare time.
Amy:So the lessons are organized when they're free.
Amy:But equally, my dance teachers are really busy too.
Amy:They, they've got, they, they've got busy lives as well.
Amy:So it's about putting those people together and finding the dates and times
Amy:that they can get together and just focus on themselves and their first.
Becca:Great.
Becca:So that's where you are today as we talk, but as I like to do on this
Becca:podcast, we like to go back in time a little bit and work out, or how
Becca:did you get to where you are now?
Becca:So if I take you right back, at what point did you first become self-employed?
Amy:It was to teach someone to dance for their wedding.
Amy:Actually, yeah, it was a long time ago now.
Amy:I think it was in 2004, but it was, that was the first time I became self-employed.
Amy:Well, it was to teach someone to dance for their wedding.
Amy:Yeah,
Becca:I love that.
Becca:So were you a dance teacher before?
Becca:Were you working for someone else?
Becca:Where did you come from?
Amy:So I, I've always danced my whole life.
Amy:I really, really loved dancing.
Amy:I really enjoy dancing, but I actually studied business but
Amy:always danced at the same time.
Amy:And then when I left university, I worked at a dance studio.
Amy:But in the office, so not on, not in the studio, in the office, you see.
Amy:So I was organizing everything but dancing at the same time.
Amy:So I have a very split experience of those two things.
Becca:So you're working for the dance studio, working in the office.
Becca:So how did you end up teaching someone to dance for their wedding
Becca:. Amy: So what happened, I'm, I'm not gonna
Becca:wedding and it was a, it was lovely.
Becca:It was all weddings are lovely and they.
Becca:Came to the first dance bit and they said, oh, they're gonna do their first
Becca:dance, and we're all watching as you do.
Becca:And the couple, they just looked so embarrassed.
Becca:They looked absolutely mortified.
Becca:They weren't enjoying it at all.
Becca:And I talked to myself, why are they putting themselves through this?
Becca:It's not as if it's essential.
Becca:You're still married even if you haven't done a first dance.
Becca:And they just looked like they were hating every single second.
Becca:And I.
Becca:That's such a shame because they could have really enjoyed themselves
Becca:or they could have just not done it.
Becca:You know, it would've been either way, would've been fine, but why put
Becca:yourself through that on, you know, the most special day of your life?
Becca:And that just made me think, I wonder if generally that's a lot
Becca:of couples kind of put themselves through that for absolutely no reason.
Becca:Because all, all the need is a confidence boost.
Becca:And then they would have a great time on, on the dance floor.
Becca:And that just made me think about, is there such a thing as people
Becca:taking lessons for their wedding?
Becca:And I just Googled it and it turns out there was a company looking for
Becca:dance teachers in my area at the time.
Becca:So I just emailed them and said, I could do this job, , I could do this for you.
Becca:And they said, yes, great.
Becca:And I just started teaching dance for them.
Becca:And even today that they're actually one of.
Becca:Wow.
Amy:They're still, they're still trading as well.
Amy:Yeah.
Becca:That's incredible.
Becca:So you did that classic entrepreneur thing where you found a problem and
Becca:decided that you needed to fix it.
Becca:And it really is a problem because I have been to so many weddings and the first
Becca:dance really is the most awkward part of the wedding because everyone feels
Becca:like they've gotta do it and then just kind of shuffles around in a circle and
Becca:just hope someone else will join them.
Amy:Yeah.
Amy:Yeah.
Amy:And it's such a shame because it doesn't have to be like that at all.
Amy:And then equally, if you really don't want to do it, I think just don't do it.
Amy:Like you don't have to, you can do any, you don't have to do
Amy:any part of your wedding apart from the legal parts, do you?
Amy:So, yeah, I think if, if you really do want to do the first dance because
Amy:you feel like you should then just take a couple of lessons and give
Amy:yourself that confidence boost to go out there and not, not dread.
Amy:And enjoy it and have lovely memories.
Becca:I love that.
Becca:So that is how you got your first bit of self-employment.
Becca:So you started doing some freelance work for this other company.
Becca:So now take us on the journey from how you got from there to what you are doing now.
Amy:Yeah, so I, I was doing that, but I was still also working at
Amy:the dance studio, and I think then just kind of word got around.
Amy:That's what I did.
Amy:And then I just started having a lot of inquiries in my, in my local area.
Amy:And then I made my own website.
Amy:That's what I did.
Amy:Yeah, I made my own website just for teaching dance in my local area.
Amy:And I was literally, during the summer, I was literally working in the office during
Amy:the day in the dance studio office, and then I was teaching every, every night
Amy:and all weekend teaching wedding dance.
Amy:And I just realized there's a massive call for this.
Amy:But you know what?
Amy:I really like teaching wedding dance.
Amy:But I don't really wanna be working every day and every night and every
Amy:weekend cause it's just too much.
Amy:And so I kind of had to choose, I had to choose whether to stay employed at
Amy:the dance studio or take that jump to be self-employed and launch my own company.
Amy:I, I knew just working for myself locally wouldn't be enough.
Amy:To, my living because you have to be available when the couples are available,
Amy:which is basically evenings and weekends.
Amy:And I knew that just working evenings and weekends, I didn't really want to do
Amy:that because it's not very sociable and you miss out on family life and stuff.
Amy:So I knew I wanted to work during the day and I just thought,
Amy:actually this could be an idea.
Amy:And I think I just took a leap of faith and just went for it really.
Amy:But that, that was a long time ago now, in 2008 I started that and, and it's, and
Amy:it turns out it was the right thing to do.
Becca:I love that.
Becca:So I would say, Amy, you're almost an accidental entrepreneur because you
Becca:didn't set out to start your business.
Becca:No.
Becca:The business has definitely evolved with you over time, but there did
Becca:come that point where you had to make that decision, do I stick
Becca:with my job or do I go for this?
Becca:So what factors made that happen and how did you find the confidence to do that?
Becca:Because that's something that a lot of people struggle with.
Amy:That's a very good point.
Amy:I think because I'd had that business background, I knew how to do it.
Amy:And I think like a lot of people, I think just trial and error
Amy:thinking, oh what, what do I do now?
Amy:What should I do here?
Amy:What should I do there?
Amy:What's the best thing to do?
Amy:And just learning and using things I didn't know about, but also
Amy:not being afraid to ask for help.
Amy:So I knew, for example, I don't know how to build a website.
Amy:I had someone do that for me and things like, I don't know
Amy:how to do my tax returns.
Amy:So I had someone do that for me.
Amy:So I think doing.
Amy:What you can do or what you can learn to do great.
Amy:And then the things that you cannot do or haven't got the time to learn how
Amy:to do, get someone to do that for you.
Amy:And that's how you can progress much quicker than thinking,
Amy:I've got to do this for myself.
Amy:Because in business, we really are an expert in our own fields, but you have
Amy:to be an expert in all of the fields.
Amy:To cover everything.
Amy:So to kind of outsource those things and ask for help and get like a
Amy:wider team, I think is, is the probably the quickest way and the
Amy:most effective way to achieve that.
Becca:That's really, really helpful.
Becca:So as you look back over the last few years in business, you've been
Becca:doing this a long time now, how do you think things have evolved for you?
Becca:Has things changed?
Becca:Has the way you run your business changed over the last few years?
Amy:Some things are exactly the same in that people still love, they love the
Amy:idea of dancing, and it makes them happy.
Amy:And the couples who, who, who book the dance lessons, they're
Amy:very much in love with each other and they really want to have a
Amy:brilliant time on their wedding day.
Amy:That, that, that will never change.
Amy:But what changes around you?
Amy:For example, social media, that's a massive, back when I
Amy:started, that wasn't even a thing.
Amy:I think I, maybe Facebook might have been around, but not for business.
Amy:So of course that became for business.
Amy:And then Instagram.
Amy:Now TikTok, not that I'm on TikTok, but I know I should be.
Amy:So that whole way of doing business is completely changed.
Amy:When I first started, it was very much about being on Google was
Amy:the only way, but now, but that's still really important, obviously.
Amy:The social media side of things has completely changed as well.
Amy:And also with the technology.
Amy:So back then it was CDs.
Amy:Yeah, it wasn't tape.
Amy:So the dance teacher, I would have to send the dance teacher the song for them to
Amy:burn onto a cd, and then they would then go along with their cd player and play it.
Amy:Of course, now everyone uses spotify, like you don't even think about
Amy:where do you get the music from?
Amy:It's just there, unless, of course the music's been edited together,
Amy:which does happen quite a lot.
Amy:And then of course we have to send the file over as a link, but that's, you
Amy:know, that's, that's no problem at all.
Amy:So the whole technology side of things has changed massively.
Amy:And how could people communicate?
Amy:Of course, back then it would've been everyone's on a laptop or.
Amy:A physical computer, but now everyone's on their phone, so that,
Amy:that's been a big change as well.
Becca:So how have you managed to keep up with the changes?
Becca:Because that's one thing people get scared about, that they'll start
Becca:a business, they'll understand it, and then things will change and
Becca:they won't understand it anymore.
Becca:What have you done personally to make sure you're keeping up and understanding
Becca:where you should be taking your business?
Amy:Hmm.
Amy:So that's a good question.
Amy:I'm not sure I'm brilliant at that to be honest with you because I you
Amy:know when social media started and I was like, oh no, I'm not doing that.
Amy:And then you realize you do need to.
Amy:And then when Instagram came same, and now here I am knowing I should
Amy:be on TikTok, but I'm thinking, oh no, I'm in my mid forties.
Amy:I can't be on TikTok.
Amy:But you just have to get over that and roll with the times, don't you?
Amy:So I think just, yeah, just that.
Amy:Just thinking you need to keep going with it.
Amy:You know, when websites started becoming mobile thinking, you've
Amy:got to have your website redesigned.
Amy:You can't just sit back thinking, oh, it'll be fine.
Amy:They'll just go to their laptop one day.
Amy:You need your mobile, your website to be mobilized and, and being aware
Amy:of how people look for you as well.
Amy:So, if you go onto your Google Analytics, for example, you can see the
Amy:date, the, the times of the week that people are more likely to be looking.
Amy:And for me, I can tell it is basically people who are working because they're
Amy:looking at their lunchtimes and they're looking in the evenings and
Amy:it's thinking what's their life like?
Amy:How can I make myself visible to them when.
Amy:Looking for me, which is very different to before, because back then you'd
Amy:just be, I'm on Google, you come to me whenever you are ready, . So that's,
Amy:that's probably a consideration.
Amy:But I must, I do need to get better at moving, moving further with the times
Amy:and keeping up because it's so important with all the different algorithms
Amy:changing and different versions of things.
Amy:If you sit in your laurel the world will overtake you and your competitors will
Amy:keep up and then you'll be left behind.
Becca:Yeah, I think that's a really important point actually, that
Becca:if we sit on our laurels and just keep doing the same old things that
Becca:we've always done, you're right.
Becca:Our competitors will take us over.
Becca:So how do you keep engaged?
Becca:Do you look at what your competitors are doing?
Becca:Do you try and stay on your own lane?
Becca:Do you do a bit of both?
Becca:How does that work?
Amy:I do try and stay on my own lane, to be honest with you,
Amy:because I'm doing what I'm doing and they're doing what they're doing.
Amy:So it's a very different thing and, and the couples can make their choice of
Amy:which ones they think resonates more with them and which is the right one to do.
Amy:I think it's really important to think about your own branding and
Amy:your own skillset and your own ideas.
Amy:And go along with it like that.
Amy:I remember a time, maybe six, seven years ago where I realized that all of the
Amy:websites of my main, there aren't many of us, but my main competitors all purple.
Amy:And at that point I was like, when I, my new website was coming up and I thought,
Amy:I need to do a different, I need to totally change this because there'll be
Amy:confusion with which company is which.
Amy:So you need to change that so that it's not purple anymore.
Becca:I love that we shouldn't be frightened of our competitors either.
Becca:There's an exercise.
Becca:No, definitely not.
Becca:There's an exercise that I like to do with people sometimes where
Becca:I say, look at your competitors.
Becca:Look at what they do better than you, and then make sure you learn how to do that
Becca:better, and look at what you do better than them and use that as your marketing.
Becca:There's no need to be scared of your competitors at all, so no,
Amy:no, no, no.
Amy:In fact, you can work together.
Amy:I have.
Amy:There's this lovely.
Amy:To, I've never met her, but we have a really nice relationship
Amy:on, on, on messaging each other.
Amy:And if there's ever a situation where I can't fulfill a client's needs, I don't
Amy:know, maybe the dance teacher in their local area is on maternity leave and I
Amy:haven't got a replacement at that time.
Amy:I will literally say, Email my competitor, because at the end of the day, what's
Amy:most important is the customer service.
Amy:That the client gets what they want.
Amy:And this client wants dance lessons and I can't, I can't give that to them.
Amy:So if I refer them to a lady who I know who I really like her work, I really trust
Amy:her to to give the client a good service.
Amy:And of course, it works backwards.
Amy:So when she can't do that, she then sends clients my way as well.
Amy:So it works really.
Becca:Yeah, that's so important.
Becca:Now when we talk about your business journey, we can
Becca:make it sound really simple.
Becca:You just went from here to there and then it's all been rosy.
Becca:I'm sure that's not the truth.
Becca:So has there been things over the years that have been a
Becca:challenge of being self-employed?
Becca:What are the things that have you found the hardest?
Amy:Yeah, so there are, yeah, of course everyone, everyone who self-employed
Amy:has challenges and, you know, family life and time and having babies that
Amy:really makes it more difficult to put time into your business, but also for my
Amy:particular business as the seasons go by.
Amy:So it's very, very seasonal, busier in the summer, which is obviously what
Amy:you'd expect in the wedding industry.
Amy:But still, people get married all year round.
Amy:And for me, my dance teachers, they're.
Amy:Very different.
Amy:So some of them might have their dance schools, and so they teach this, they
Amy:work for me alongside their dance schools.
Amy:Some of them might be mums and so they work part-time and they teach here.
Amy:Some of them will be teachers, dance teachers in schools.
Amy:Some of them will be West End dancers.
Amy:And so they'll, they'll only work for me when they're not in a performance run.
Amy:Some will be on cruise ships and so they'll come when they get back.
Amy:So it's, it's that ebb and flow of what people are doing and where people are
Amy:based and keeping up with everybody.
Amy:But also things like, for example, Christmas is a really big thing in
Amy:the dance industry because there's lots of Christmas shows, there's lots
Amy:of pantomimes things like performers, elves in grottos, that kind of thing.
Amy:A lot of dancers will, will do that at Christmas.
Amy:So you have this workforce that suddenly, Between sort of like
Amy:November and December, they're just not available because they've got
Amy:a full-time contract for pantomime.
Amy:So it's kind of dealing with that and knowing it's gonna happen and
Amy:then making adjustments accordingly.
Becca:Yeah, so it's not always plain sailing.
Becca:There's always difficulties in business.
Becca:Yeah.
Becca:But what do you think are the best things about being self-employed?
Becca:What have you loved about taking that leap and having your own control over your.
Amy:I think it's the sense of satisfaction of knowing
Amy:that you've made that happen.
Amy:My favorite thing is when a couple will, after they've got married,
Amy:they'll send me, hopefully, I love when they do photos, videos, messages.
Amy:And when that email pops through and you open up those pictures,
Amy:it's just, it's just brilliant.
Amy:I love it.
Amy:And I love hearing all their stories about their wedding day and how it went
Amy:and how they found everything and how much they enjoyed their dance lessons
Amy:and all of that, I think is the most, is the best part, is it's why I do it.
Amy:And I think when you're employed, you, you, you, obviously you would have
Amy:job satisfaction too depending on what you're doing, but I just think you
Amy:don't have the same ownership of it.
Becca:Yeah, that's so true.
Becca:And also it shows that you've solved that problem that Right.
Becca:Way back at the start you were wanting to solve, which was stopping people shuffling
Becca:around awkwardly on a dance floor,
Amy:Yeah.
Amy:Getting awkward.
Becca:Exactly.
Becca:So obviously you've been in business a long time.
Becca:You've talked about keeping up with the trends, so you obviously think personal
Becca:development is important in your business.
Becca:We talked, I talked in the intro about how you joined the
Becca:members lounge earlier this year.
Becca:So what things do you do in your business to keep on top of things, to make
Becca:sure you are doing your own personal development and training, and what have
Becca:you got out of being part of that group?
Amy:Yeah.
Amy:Well, I, yeah, I think educating yourself is the best way that you can to set
Amy:those footprints to your own success.
Amy:The more you.
Amy:The more knowledge you have, the more you can not make mistakes because you have
Amy:the foresight of, of what's going on.
Amy:And also when you, I find anyway that when I do a training session,
Amy:hear somebody speak, for example, you had that lovely man on yesterday
Amy:about branding from Airbnb.
Amy:Different ideas come into your mind.
Amy:And also it's just, I find it very motivational as well
Amy:to learn new things and to.
Amy:We could do this, could do that.
Amy:And even if it doesn't really apply to you, it's still interesting in
Amy:what the people around you are doing as well, other people in the group.
Becca:Yeah, I agree.
Becca:It's so important to keep on learning and sometimes you think, I don't need
Becca:this, and then you just take a little nugget away that leads to something
Becca:else and makes one small change, and then you think, oh yeah, I'm
Becca:really glad I listened to that now.
Becca:Yeah.
Becca:So in terms of being self-employed, I know one thing people struggle with
Becca:is that sense of loneliness being.
Becca:Being in your own head all of the time.
Becca:Yeah.
Becca:What have you done over the years to make sure that you've got
Becca:people around, you got community?
Becca:How have you made that work?
Amy:Well, to be honest with you, for years and years and
Amy:years, it was like it is lonely.
Amy:It was lonely.
Amy:Especially in the early days before social media, there wasn't, there weren't ways,
Amy:I didn't know, anyway, to kind of branch out to other people in the industry.
Amy:I mean, there was local networking and I did try that, but when you
Amy:go along and you're spending.
Amy:Your work time talking to people who are not in your industry.
Amy:It isn't massively beneficial to you, but going but that, but now these days
Amy:it's so easy to connect with people in the industry, obviously by your group.
Amy:And for example, last week in Birmingham there was this, you set up this brilliant
Amy:networking event in In the Cube, which was just a fabulous place to visit, wasn't it?
Amy:And it's just brilliant to go along and meet people in the wedding industry,
Amy:and I think especially post covid.
Amy:That's something I'm really, really, really enjoying and I kind of
Amy:didn't realize how much I missed it until we've got it back again.
Becca:Yeah, I'm definitely all about the in person events at the moment.
Becca:It's so much better to be in person and if you are listening to this and you are
Becca:thinking, oh, I just wish I could find.
Becca:Some other people in the industry, just get onto social media, get onto Google
Becca:and search, because there will be groups.
Becca:There's my groups, but there'll be other groups.
Becca:There might be groups that meet in your local area.
Becca:There might be conferences coming up in your local area for the wedding industry.
Becca:So just search them out.
Becca:Look and even if you wanna post in one of my groups and ask if there's anyone local
Becca:to you to meet up with for a coffee, I'm more than happy for people to do that.
Becca:So as business owners, Amy, we talked about the juggle.
Becca:Life is one big juggle.
Becca:You've got small children.
Becca:The whole thing is a juggle.
Becca:How are you managing to keep life and business going?
Becca:? Amy: That's a very good question.
Becca:I have a lot of lists.
Becca:I think most working mums do.
Becca:It's a case of prioritizing, isn't it?
Becca:And thinking, what do I have to do right now that is the
Becca:most important thing to do?
Becca:And not being distracted by things which seem like they're really
Becca:important at that moment in time.
Becca:But actually the the most important thing you're trying to get done.
Becca:You don't get done because these little things that are kind of nagging at you.
Becca:But it is, it is tricky.
Becca:But I think just trying to be as focused as possible and trying to be as organized
Becca:as possible is the way forwards.
Becca:And using things that you can to make that happen, like scheduling
Becca:social media posts, using your out of office so people you know, so
Becca:you can communicate and then people.
Becca:What's going on?
Becca:I think communication is so important because the better you can
Becca:communicate, that's the best way to avoid miscommunication and conflicts
Becca:and things going wrong, basically.
Becca:So all about communication, scheduling, I'm remembering to take time out for
Becca:yourself as well and not thinking I must work every night because,
Becca:you know, because I should And thinking about working smart and
Becca:that's rather than working hard.
Becca:You're so right because as entrepreneurs we are the worst at working
Becca:all of the hours and not taking enough breaks, which brings me nicely on to
Becca:one of my favorite segments on the podcast when I interview people, which
Becca:is all about wedding pros chilling out.
Becca:So what I'd love to know, Amy, from you, is what do you do in your life
Becca:to try and get away from business and have some time for yourself?
Amy:That's a very good question.
Amy:So, and this, this probably sounds really silly, but I think generally everyone's
Amy:very, very busy and I find I'm in the car, I'm here, I'm there, I'm grabbing
Amy:shopping the errands, the running, the children, the the doing this, doing that.
Amy:And I find just being able to go for a walk seems like a massive privilege.
Amy:It sounds really silly, but just to have.
Amy:Time just to have a short walk.
Amy:I find it just clears your head.
Amy:It makes you feel so much more energized.
Amy:I used to be thinking I should be, I should be running, I should be exercising.
Amy:And it's took me years and years to realize my body is
Amy:not made for running at all.
Amy:But when I walk, it just makes me feel really, really energized and calm.
Amy:And I love arriving at a place where I've just walked there and just so.
Amy:Just relaxed and ready for the moment, whereas in and out the car, or, or
Amy:just, you know, going of a weekend, going somewhere beautiful and having
Amy:a lovely walk in the sunshine.
Amy:It's.
Amy:I find that really relaxing.
Amy:But then of course that is quite a tricky thing to do when you have a family.
Amy:So we like playing games.
Amy:So things like, my kids have got a switch and there's a game called
Amy:Just Dance, where you all hold this little controller thing and you
Amy:all follow the same dance routine.
Amy:And I find for us as a family, that's a really good way to relax.
Amy:Cause everyone's just focusing.
Amy:On the same thing at the same time.
Amy:And once you do meet, you don't think about anything else.
Amy:So, so for us, yeah, walking and playing a computer game is kinda the best of it.
Becca:I, I'm totally on board with that.
Becca:We love a bit of just dance in my household as well, but I get far
Becca:too competitive and then one of my children ends up crying cause I
Becca:keep beating them all of the time.
Becca:So do you still dance?
Becca:Do you still dance for yourself?
Becca:Do you dance to relax?
Becca:Cause one of the things that I find for myself is being involved still
Becca:in performance, singing, dancing, really takes me to another world.
Becca:Do you get the opportunity to do that anymore?
Amy:I don't dance to be honest with you, but I would love to.
Amy:I live in quite a small town and there isn't.
Amy:There is.
Amy:There is.
Amy:There is.
Amy:There is a dance class I could go to, but at the same time, I'm also
Amy:taking my daughter to another dance class, so I can't go to that one.
Amy:But no, I would love, and I keep, it's actually my new resolution
Amy:to get myself to dance classes.
Amy:I'd have to travel a bit for it because it's doing something for you, isn't it?
Amy:And.
Amy:Taking time out and doing something for you, and especially
Amy:when it's an exercise thing.
Amy:So, no, I wish I did have more time, but I do, I do really love visiting the
Amy:theater, which I, which I do have more time for than actually dancing myself.
Amy:I recently saw the musical six.
Amy:I don't know if you've seen that one.
Amy:It's just amazing.
Becca:I haven't seen it, but it's on my list to see because I
Becca:absolutely love the soundtrack.
Amy:Yeah.
Amy:Yes, yes, yes.
Amy:It's very, very good.
Becca:Well, I'm gonna hold you accountable to the Amy for the new year
Becca:to go out and find yourself dance class, because honestly, my New Year's resolution
Becca:last year was to start my singing lessons back up and it's been so wonderful to
Becca:just get out my house, sing, and then come home again and get back into life.
Becca:So it's some really good self care.
Becca:So get yourself along to a class and let me know when you've done.
Amy:I will, I definitely will.
Becca:Now, in those other times when we're not out doing classes and we're
Becca:just sat in front of the TV and we're watching Netflix, we're sharing on
Becca:the podcast at the moment, things that we're watching on Netflix so that we
Becca:can find, help other people find through that catalog of what to watch next.
Becca:So what are you into at the moment?
Becca:What are you watching on tv?
Amy:So right now it's strictly season, so I must admit.
Amy:I've not watched Netflix in a while because I'm quite into strictly.
Amy:I really enjoy it.
Amy:And of course it's on every day, isn't it?
Amy:So you've got, you know, you've got the live show Saturday, the results
Amy:on Sunday, and then all through the week on channel two you've
Amy:got that other program takes two.
Amy:So I'm afraid I haven't actually watched Netflix in some time because, Of that.
Amy:But you know what?
Amy:Come the final I'll be, I'll be clicking away.
Amy:What next?
Amy:What next?
Amy:What can I watch now?
Amy:So yeah, I'm afraid.
Amy:I haven't actually watched Netflix in a while, but I've really been
Amy:enjoying this season of strictly.
Becca:Well, if people are looking for something to watch, they could catch
Becca:up on all the episodes of strictly.
Becca:They're still all on.
Becca:iPlayer
Amy:Oh, so many.
Amy:So many.
Amy:I send you to come as well because, well, we've.
Amy:The big Blackpool one this weekend, which is always a good week.
Becca:Oh, yes.
Becca:So I worked on strictly, I don't know if I've ever told you that, but
Amy:I didn't know that.
Amy:No, I didn't know that.
Amy:Yes.
Amy:What, what, when was that?
Becca:Oh, it was many, many, many years ago.
Becca:When Gary Rhodes the chef was on it.
Becca:That's one of the only people I can remember was on it.
Amy:Oh, that's one of the early, early.
Becca:Yes.
Becca:Yeah.
Becca:But what I discovered when I worked there, which you probably know and everyone else
Becca:probably knows as well, is the reason they go to Blackpool every year for once one
Becca:show a a series, is so that they can get out of the studio for children in need.
Amy:Oh, I did not know that There go, but that does make sense.
Amy:Cause that's tomorrow, isn't it?
Amy:Yeah.
Becca:There you go.
Becca:You got some insider knowledge.
Becca:Now they have to clear the, they have to clear the studio for children in
Becca:need and that's why they always go to Blackpool on the children in need weekend.
Amy:I see, I see.
Amy:Oh, that's good.
Amy:That works well for everyone then, because it does kind of make a nice break to the
Amy:series to go to that incredible ballroom.
Amy:You can always, you can dance on any floor, but when you're
Amy:dancing on the sprung floor, it just feels and looks amazing.
Amy:I don't, so if you're watching strictly and you see that Blackpool and have a
Amy:look at their feet, because you'll see they're just, they're really bouncing off
Amy:of that floor because it's so well sprung.
Becca:Love that, that's such a dance geeky chat that we've just had.
Becca:But I, I'm here for it and I know that lots of my listeners.
Becca:So into musical theater and dancing.
Becca:So if you're not, just bear with us.
Becca:We just enjoyed talking about that strictly.
Becca:It's a great show and you should definitely be watching it.
Becca:Okay, Amy, before I let you go, I always end my interviews with the same question,
Becca:which is, what is one thing you wish you'd known sooner in your business?
Amy:Okay, this is quite boring, but ages.
Amy:I didn't realize the importance of the bounce rate.
Amy:So how many people leave your website and I think from.
Amy:For investigating that you can, you can learn so much about the
Amy:patterns of behavior, of how people are finding you and also
Amy:what they're not liking about you.
Amy:So for example, I remember years ago I had a Google ads.
Amy:Campaign set up.
Amy:And it was running and it was running and I wasn't unhappy with it.
Amy:But I went to, I basically went to a training session to learn a bit
Amy:of all maps, seo and the bounce rate was, was explained to me.
Amy:Of course, I went, went home, looked at my Google Analytics, looked at all
Amy:these things, looked at my bounce rate, and I was absolutely horrified to see
Amy:that I'd actually been paying for.
Amy:A campaign that had a massive, massive bounce rate of such a waste of money,
Amy:and that would work, you know, with all different sorts of campaigns or any
Amy:kind of marketing that you do, unless you keep an eye on that bounce rate,
Amy:you could put all your efforts into something that just isn't working for you.
Amy:Cuz people are looking at that and going, Nope, I don't like that.
Amy:and just jumping off straight away.
Amy:So now that I understand that, that's made a big difference to what I do.
Amy:Knowing to put my efforts into what I know people will stay on my website for,
Amy:which is a better use of my time as.
Becca:That's a really interesting point.
Becca:So if anyone listening that doesn't know what a bounce rate is, it's the
Becca:people that just come to your website and then bounce straight off, which
Becca:is why it's called a bounce rate, and they basically leave straight away.
Becca:And you can find that inside of your Google Analytics.
Becca:So I would recommend if you get a chance to go on your Google Analytics,
Becca:just like Amy said, go and have a look at your bounce rate and if it.
Becca:Is exceptionally high, then maybe have a think about why that is.
Becca:And actually, Amy, maybe that would be a great thing for me to get someone into
Becca:the members lounge to talk about Yes.
Becca:Yeah.
Becca:How to improve your bounce rate.
Becca:Yeah.
Amy:Yeah, absolutely.
Amy:And then if you learn a bit more about analytics, you have to, you know, play
Amy:around with a bit and get to know it.
Amy:You can actually find out, you can match it against other categories and you
Amy:can find out of the people that bounce.
Amy:Where they've come from first as well.
Amy:So then you know not to invest in those places where the branch rate is highest.
Amy:It's, it's really interesting, but it's quite technical and quite detailed and
Amy:it's the kind of thing that you do need a bit of training on to understand.
Amy:But then once you do, It's, it's invaluable to the success
Amy:of your future business.
Amy:Incredible.
Becca:And I am now gonna go and find an expert to talk to us in the
Becca:members lounge about that very subject.
Becca:Cause I think that would be really helpful for lots and lots of people.
Becca:Amy, it's been a pleasure to chat to you on the podcast today.
Becca:If people wanna find out more about you or get in touch, where's the
Becca:best place for them to find you?
Amy:So on my website, which is wedding day dance uk.co.uk, or you can email me.
Amy:The address is Amy Wedding Day dance uk.co uk, and there's Instagram as well and a
Amy:little bit of Facebook and not yet TikTok.
Becca:Maybe one day TikTok.
Becca:We can just Google.
Becca:Google the company and amazing.
Becca:I will put the links to all of those things in the show notes below the
Becca:episode, and I'm sure you're more than happy for people to reach out if they've
Becca:got questions or they wanna work with you.
Amy:Yeah, that would be amazing.
Amy:I would love that
Amy:. Becca: Fabulous.
Amy:Amy, it's been a pleasure.
Amy:I look forward to catching up with you again soon.
Amy:Thanks for today.
Amy:Thanks, Becca.
Amy:That was wonderful.
Amy:Thank you.
Amy:Bye.
Becca:Really love that conversation with Amy today.
Becca:Hopefully you found it inspiring too, and who would've known the Google
Becca:bounce rate could be so interesting.
Becca:Highly recommend you go and check.
Becca:Out that one.
Becca:If you're interested in being part of a community with myself and Amy's in
Becca:there too, then why not go and check out the Wedding Pro member's lounge?
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