What happens when health challenges in your 40s become the catalyst for a complete career reinvention? In this episode, Kimberle Lau shares her journey from 20-year beauty industry executive to founder of Bake Me Healthy, an allergen-free, plant-based baking company. After pregnancy-induced food intolerances and a breast cancer risk diagnosis, Kimberle left corporate America at 44 to build a mission-driven business serving people with food allergies and intolerances.

She opens up about being a self-described "risk-averse" founder, discovering that the average founder age is actually 45 (not 25), and learning to focus on "the next three steps" instead of needing the entire roadmap mapped out. We talk about balancing business building with raising teenagers approaching college age, why she tracks sleep like a KPI, and how "micro-wins" serve as signals to keep going when progress feels slow.

This is an honest conversation about midlife entrepreneurship women over 40, starting a business during perimenopause, women changing careers in their 40s, and building something meaningful when everyone's asking "but when will you break even?"

What You'll Learn:

• How to change careers after 40 with purpose — Kimberle shares how 20 years of beauty industry expertise transferred to food entrepreneurship and what made her finally take the leap at 44
• Starting a business during midlife with family responsibilities — Navigating the reality of building a company while raising teenagers, managing mortgage payments, and planning for college tuition
• Perimenopause motivation for women entrepreneurs — How health challenges became the catalyst for purpose-driven work and why midlife is actually the right time to start
• Women over 40 starting businesses — Why the average founder age is 45, not 25, and what advantages decades of experience bring to entrepreneurship
• Building confidence after 40 as a female founder — Overcoming the "am I ready?" question and learning to trust your next three steps instead of needing the full plan
• Midlife transformation through purpose — From corporate burnout in beauty to creating inclusive, allergen-free products that serve an underserved community
• Second act career success strategies — Practical wisdom about evaluating micro-wins, managing risk strategically, and making self-care non-negotiable

Key Timestamps:

0:00 - Introduction

4:00 - From beauty industry executive to food entrepreneur—the health crisis that changed everything

12:00 - "Am I too risk-averse to be a founder?" and discovering the average founder age is 45

18:30 - Managing the anxiety of building a business as a mom with college tuition looming

24:00 - The "next three steps" approach: why you don't need the full roadmap to start

28:00 - Listening to micro-wins as signals to keep going

33:00 - The sleep habit tracker: treating self-care like a business KPI

39:00 - Building a family business: working with her mother and involving her kids

Key Takeaways:

• For midlife career changers: The average founder age is 45—your decades of expertise are an asset, not a liability. Starting "late" often means starting with more resources, networks, and pattern recognition than younger founders have.
• For women over 40 seeking purpose: Health challenges and body changes in midlife can become catalysts for meaningful work. What starts as solving your own problem can become a mission serving thousands of others.
• For perimenopause entrepreneurs: Risk-aversion doesn't disqualify you from founding something. Strategic risk management—having financial cushion, supportive partners, and clear-eyed assessment—is actually smarter than reckless leaping.

Featured Quote:

"When I first started, I was like, oh gosh, can I do this? Aren't founders like in their twenties, working out of their garage? Like how many people in their forties, let alone moms or females, are starting businesses? And I started Googling and I found that actually the average age is 45 for becoming a founder. So I was like, all right, well maybe I can do this." — Kimberle Lau

Lift Her Up

Visit Join The Tryb to explore Kimberle’s allergen-free baking mixes and cookies. Use code uplifters20 for 20% off of your order! Follow @bakemehealthylove on Instagram to see what she’s creating and where you can find her products.

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About Kimberle Lau:

Kimberle Lau is the founder and CEO of Bake Me Healthy, an allergen-free, plant-based baking company launched in May 2023. After nearly 20 years in product innovation and marketing for major beauty companies, Kimberle experienced pregnancy-induced food intolerances and was later diagnosed as high risk for breast cancer, leading her to completely reimagine her diet. In 2020, she left corporate America to focus on her physical and mental health, eventually launching Bake Me Healthy to create inclusive, top-nine allergen-free baking solutions. A self-described "geriatric founder" who started her company at 44, Kimberle brings decades of consumer insights and product development expertise to the mission of making baking accessible for everyone, regardless of dietary restrictions. She lives with her husband and two children (ages 14 and 11) and works alongside her mother, who taught her to bake.

About Your Host:

Aransas Savas is a wellbeing and leadership coach specializing in helping women over 40 navigate midlife transitions, career changes, and second-act reinvention. With 20+ years of behavioral research experience partnering with companies like Disney, Weight Watchers, and Best Buy, she hosts The Uplifters Podcast, featuring women doing transformative work in the second half of their lives. Aransas brings both research rigor and personal experience to conversations about courage capital, midlife transformation, and building meaningful second acts.

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Keywords:

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We talk about not just what they've done, which is super exciting and inspiring in its own right, but really we focus on how they've done it because. Frankly, it's really hard to do anything new to Trailblaze to break [00:01:30] out of our patterns. But the way that we do that is to hear other people's stories and understand how they manage those obstacles and barriers.

How they build the confidence and the courage to keep doing brave things in spite of resistance. [00:01:45] Because, let's face it, none of us are ever gonna do a big, brave thing without a little resistance. Otherwise, we already would've done it. So really excited to talk to Kimberly Lau today. She is an Asian American mom of two who [00:02:00] courageously pursued her passion for healthy baking after discovering that she was lactose and egg tolerant and at high risk for breast cancer.

Her business is called Bake Me Healthy. And she's on a mission to fight food allergies and food [00:02:15] waste with super yummy, top nine allergen-free plant-based baking mixes and cookies. We've been sampling them here at our house. They're so delicious. I met Kimberly through my friend Louise Ra, who you [00:02:30] might have heard about before via my substack.

Louise is the founder of Join the Tribe, which is a super uplifting company. What Louise does is she connects with emerging founders who have inspiring stories. She gets small amounts of their [00:02:45] products and she sends them to people as a try before you buy model, essentially. So you can try one baking mix or one fabulous, interesting protein bar from some new company without having to buy the whole box and feel like I [00:03:00] speaking of food waste, just.

I ordered something that's not right for me. Now, I'm stuck with nine more of them. But it also gives you a chance to just sample lots more fun things and really enjoy the discovery process of finding things that you love [00:03:15] and wanna make a part of your regular routine. Probably, hopefully, because not only do you love the product itself, but you love the founder and the story behind it, and you're supporting a mission that you believe in.

So super excited to have Kimberly here. Super excited by her [00:03:30] mission. Super excited by her product. We're actually gonna sample some of her products at our upcoming Uplifters retreat, which is super fun. And yeah, I just can't wait to see where Kimberly goes because she is determined, [00:03:45] inspiring, and really rooted in purpose.

Kimberly, thank you so much for being here today. Hi Aransas. I am so thrilled to be here today. So take us back to like the genesis story of you and make me [00:04:00] healthy.

Kimberle Lau: Sure. So I started my career in consulting, but then moved into the world of beauty and spent almost 20 years doing product innovation and marketing for almost every major beauty company.

And while I was working there, I [00:04:15] became a mom and had children 14 years ago. And through my pregnancy I was shocked to discover that I had become lactose egg intolerant from my pregnancy. Is that a thing? Uh, if you're a mom out there, you know, like you're, the pregnancy can [00:04:30] change your bodies in so many ways, but I had never heard of anyone who became lactose and egg and tolerant from their pregnancy, so I was shocked, but.

I had to get over it and, uh, figure out how to alter my [00:04:45] diet. I was always a home baker and so just kind of taught myself how to bake without dairy or eggs. Incredible.

Aransas SAvas: And then at what point were you like, oh, maybe I wanna do more of this and get it to other [00:05:00] people? Yeah, so then

Kimberle Lau: in 2020, the doctors discovered that I had become high risk for breast cancer.

And my oncologist advised, eliminating soy for my diet. And so yet again, had to alter and change what I was eating. [00:05:15] And after a little bit, some point, I, you know, 2020 was, I think a pivotal moment for so many of us in terms of just looking around and figuring out, well, you know, what is my greater purpose?

And so I ended up leaving corporate [00:05:30] America wanted to take care of my physical, but also mental health. Then two, while I was taking this break, I discovered that I just wanted to do something bigger and better, and I knew I had a bigger and greater purpose in life. And that's when I decided to launch make me Healthy.[00:05:45]

And I wanted it to be a company that was founded on really clean, healthy ingredients. Nothing you have to Google, allergy friendly, uh, making baking inclusive lower sugar. And so I launched it in May of [00:06:00] 2023.

Aransas SAvas: Amazing, amazing. I'm so curious to know about the process. This is a journey that a lot of us go on in midlife where we start to realize there are things in our lives that we wish existed or we wish were different, [00:06:15] and some of us go off and found a nonprofit to address a systemic issue.

Others of us create a product that addresses an unmet need and certainly the purpose. [00:06:30] And the reason for those choices is often very clear. And yet then there's the question of how the hell do I do it? And so one of the things I hear in your story that is true for most of us when we do that is we start to, [00:06:45] to mine the resources that we have developed over the course of a lifetime.

Right. So we, there's like a bit of a dichotomy though, because there's the, we are also at a time where we are carrying more responsibility. For more people. [00:07:00] We feel like our parents are kind of relying on us. Maybe some kids are relying on us, maybe our partner's relying on us. There's a whole economic engine built around us.

We got mortgages to pay and insurance and like there's just so much that is [00:07:15] dependent on our success and stability, and so taking a risk can feel really scary, but having that inventory of what resources do I have available? In your case marketing [00:07:30] expertise, maybe some knowledge about how consumer purchase goods are created and packaged.

So take me through that, that moment of tension and how you found your way to keep moving forward through that. [00:07:45] Oh gosh, such a great

Kimberle Lau: question. So first. You know, it's, I always think I'm pretty risk averse. And so

Aransas SAvas: when you become a founder, that's the most, thank you for saying that, by the way, because I think most of us stop ourselves because we're like, no, I'm risk averse.

I'm not that person. [00:08:00] And that's a big mindset

Kimberle Lau: thing, right? Game. Right. In terms of like, can I get past it? Can I take a bet on myself and with, you know, 2020 happening and me discovering, well, you know what, it's now and ever. I [00:08:15] try to live life with no regrets and it was a good break in my career. I'm like, might as well try something new.

If it fails, I can always go back to beauty. And so starting with like, all right, well, [00:08:30] my husband fortunately is an Ari stable job. He's been with this company for 14 years and we have two kids, both, like many other families involved in activities. My son plays ice hockey. It's a huge financial and time commitment.[00:08:45]

But putting that aside, I've realized that like we have enough, I guess, financial capital to take a bet. But then even as you point out, like there's social capital. So I joke [00:09:00] around that. I'm like a geriatric founder. When I first started, I was like, oh gosh, can I do this? Aren't like founders, like in their twenties, they were like straight outta college, working outta their garage.

Like how many people in their forties, let alone moms or [00:09:15] females or starting businesses? And I started Googling and I found that actually the average age is 45 for becoming a founder. Woo woo. So I was like, all right, well maybe I can do this. I was a home [00:09:30] baker, self-taught nothing professional, and I was thinking, well, how do I make it easier for people to bake healthy?

And I decided to launch baking mixes. I just figured like people are home. Again. It was, you know, during the pandemic, [00:09:45] people are home. They can easily bake through a baking mix, but how do I make it super easy for them? Developed a line of baking mixes where all you have to do is add oil and milk of your choice.

Our products, again, are vegan, gluten-free, free of the top allergens. And so that's what [00:10:00] I launched the company with. But it was me thinking like, gosh, you know, how do I make it easier? So for someone in my shoes, a working mom who wants to feed her kids and her family, something delicious, but healthy and nutritious.[00:10:15]

Aransas SAvas: And so that's kind of how it started. I love that. So really understanding your own experience and mining that experience to understand who your customer was and getting pretty specific about who your customer was. It's one of those things that hard work [00:10:30] upfront for easier work later on. And what I hear you doing here is saying, okay, I'm gonna get really specific about who I serve and really design for her life.

I do a lot of work in experience strategy for companies [00:10:45] and specifically in motivation, but so much of our work is about really understanding the modes that customers are in. Mm-hmm. And making something that fits their lives needs in a, in a very specific way, creates a lot [00:11:00] more ease down the road.

Because now when you answer these questions like, what do I do in this case or that case, it's like, well, I know who it's for and I know who she is and I know what she needs because she's me. Obviously that expands with time, but I think it's a really smart way to [00:11:15] start in terms of making it just a little bit easier and crispier what you're doing.

Kimberle Lau: Yeah. And that, that's what I took from my beauty career, right? Mm-hmm. And so for beauty, it was always about what's a need state solution. So every time I came up with a new product, it was like, what's the need state and [00:11:30] what is, what am I solving for? And so going into food, that was exactly what I was looking at.

I was like, what's a problem here? And often I get the question, I was like, why didn't you go into beauty? 20 years of experience, why wouldn't you launch a beauty company? I frankly didn't see a white space [00:11:45] opportunity. And that's where, you know, for food here, that's where I saw there was something lacking in the industry where people could actually have something delicious, but that was inclusive for them and so that's why I ended up with make me Healthy.

Wow. [00:12:00] What was the scariest part about this process for you? Gosh, what isn't? Mm. It's an ongoing, there's like a, for any founders that, you know, I think there's just an ongoing, at least a low [00:12:15] level anxiety that's always there. I think the biggest part of the anxiety is being a mom who has children who are nearing college age.

My daughter's in high school now, my son's in middle school, but getting ever so [00:12:30] close her and so. My goal when I first started was like, okay, I'm gonna hopefully raise enough money that I can put my kids through college and every year, so that was two years ago. And as every year goes by, I'm like, oh gosh, am I any step closer?

And [00:12:45] so when I re-evaluate the business and reevaluate, I'm like, am I getting to that mission or am I putting my family in jeopardy by taking this risk on myself and the business of the family? [00:13:00] So I think the big is anxiety is starting a company as a mom, because I'm sure other moms, you know, like you, you think about your family first and before it well, and you think about yourself, but you think about [00:13:15] your family as wellbeing first.

And so that's always ongoing on my mind thinking like, am I doing the right thing for them? Mm-hmm.

Aransas SAvas: Yeah. And it's, this is

Kimberle Lau: slow going. Like the slow build. It's a, it's a long game. And so [00:13:30] it, you know, I have to remind myself that it's a long game. And I think that's the scariest part is it's, it's a, you know, we talked about risk, so it's like, how much of a risk are, am I taking and can I bear it?

Can my [00:13:45] family bear it? And so that's, that's what continues away. But I think for at this moment, yes, we keep going. It's, it's a, you know, risk that we're managing.

Aransas SAvas: Mm-hmm. What do you use as data [00:14:00] and, and I mean that in the broadest sense, so felt data, financial data, et cetera. What gives you a signal that you are going in the right direction?

Because I think one of the things that every founder's constantly asking is, should [00:14:15] I stop? When do I know that I shouldn't keep going? Oh gosh. That was a question in

Kimberle Lau: my mind last week. Yeah, that's a, I was talking to another founder. It's like you get these micro wins, they give you [00:14:30] permission to keep going almost.

Mm-hmm. Like, you get, like for me, there's been a number of, like corporate accounts at, or, or interested in ordering our dark chocolate chip cookies so that they could stock their pantries and so they're [00:14:45] giving their employees something healthy, nutritious, inclusive, to enjoy during the day in the office.

And so I've gotten a several of these like light green lights, like, uh, you know, like handshake deals or verbal, and so those are like micro [00:15:00] winds thinking like, okay, like there's a positive sign that what I'm creating is wanted. And so those are kind of the things that keep me going and thinking like.

There's, I see the [00:15:15] light to keep going, and it was interesting. I was on a call with an advisor a couple weeks ago and she told me, she was like, you just need to know the destination and you just need to know the next three steps, but you don't need to know the full plan to get there. And so these little micro [00:15:30] winds are just kind like the next three steps.

Because I think for me as a founder, and I'm sure many others. You feel like you need to have it all mapped out. And I think as a mom too, right? Like for me, I'm a type a aaa, type A planner. And so I feel like I need to have it [00:15:45] like all mapped out, like business plan exactly what's gonna work, where I'm gonna win.

Exactly how much revenue is gonna, you know, profit's gonna come in this year and it's not, not that that easy.

Aransas SAvas: Yeah. And. There is that [00:16:00] level of uncertainty we have to tolerate, but what I'm hearing in your answer is we also have to let the winds in because it's really easy to let our negativity bias turn all of our attention to what isn't working, where we should be [00:16:15] doing more or making what, right.

That's a major energy drain and has to be balanced by, okay, what is working, and that's the question I try to ask myself all the time. Where is the energy flowing [00:16:30] right now? What is really coming along and feels like easy and obvious and like, like it's the right thing for the right time and use that as my guide to where to go next and where to put more of my [00:16:45] energy and as an energy multiplier.

Exactly.

Kimberle Lau: Exactly. Just you have to listen and just tune in and show for me also like just. Listening to customers, understanding what their perspective and feedback is on the brand, on the product, what they're, how they're solving their [00:17:00] issues. And so it's a lot of just trying to tune into others and see

Aransas SAvas: and pick up on those signs.

So you talked about your advisor and her wise words. I, I think that's so smart to just stay kind of in the [00:17:15] moment and know what the next right thing is and not worry about what like. The whole map is because Lord knows, even if we were driving somewhere, the tree could fall on the highway. If there could be a car wreck, that makes us change course, and so [00:17:30] we have to be responsive.

I do think in every journey there are the voices that are really helpful and make us feel a greater sense of hope and energy. But then there are also the people that are like, what are you doing, Kimberly? So [00:17:45] how do you manage the unhelpful opinions or stories of others to help you stay focused? On that next right thing.

Kimberle Lau: Oh, great question. I think as a founder you get so much feedback whether you want solicit it or not. [00:18:00] Everyone's like ready to, it's almost like being a mom. Everyone tells you exactly what you should or shouldn't be doing. True. And it's, it's tough to filter out like what actually makes sense for you and your business.

MusicMusic: Mm-hmm.

Kimberle Lau: And so for me, I like [00:18:15] to like shop around, quote unquote the idea and float around. So like one challenge I'm dealing with this week, I am speaking to, I think three different colleagues, founders, and so again, just trying to get different [00:18:30] perspectives on the issue. Mm-hmm. And so not taking any one, but just kind of like mirroring all the collective thoughts into, and then forming my opinion.

But it, it's hard because you, you have to like figure out what to filter out. [00:18:45] Mm-hmm. What are those filters for you? First and foremost, as. To align with our core values. Does it lead to sustainably sustainability for us is, is a core value, but it means in so many different ways, not only being better for the planet, but also as being a small business.[00:19:00]

And so what does it mean for financial stability and sustainability? And so looking at it through that lens of like, does it actually lead to being profitable? Because if we're not profitable, we're not sustainable,

Aransas SAvas: [00:19:15] and so then there's no business tomorrow. I love that, and I love that you use the word sustainability because that's what I wanna talk about next, next step, but in a slightly different lens, it's sustainability for you as a founder.

So you are consciously [00:19:30] carrying sort of the weight of can I pay for my kids' college? You've got the, I'm sure your team, you're. Space, your partners, there's the financial relationships, there's investors, there's advice, right? Like there's all [00:19:45] these people that you feel like you, I'm sure are caring for, and certainly your customer first and foremost.

And so you've got all of these different caregiving roles. As a founder, how do you take care of yourself and [00:20:00] nourish yourself mentally, emotionally, energetically? In order to keep going and showing up without resentment toward any of these people who are relying on you.

Kimberle Lau: Great question. For [00:20:15] me work, because I'm such a type A personality and I'm workaholic.

When I was in the beauty industry, I often had burnout. Like you're not, you know, familiar with the beauty industry. You think it's very glamorous, well, not so glamorous. It's, it's extremely long hours, very [00:20:30] stressful. And when I became a founder, I said, I'm going to really be mindful of not burning out. I'm not gonna say I haven't burned down the last two and a half years.

I certainly have, but it's, I'm being very intentional and trying to listen to my body. And [00:20:45] so last week I had a, I, when I work in the ca commercial kitchen producing or making your cookies or long 15 hour days. And so I. Usually come back the next day. Pretty like burnt, pretty exhausted. And then I had a conference on [00:21:00] Friday and anyhow, long story short, on Saturday, I was like, exhausted and I just, I just, I took a nap, I slept, I just, I was like, all right, I need to go to bed early.

I just need to like listen to my body and just [00:21:15] sleep because I'm mentally and physically exhausted. And so for me, I know sleep is key. I literally have on my planner, like, uh, you know, your habit trackers. And mine was like sleep seven hours a day. And so, like last week, I can tell you, I don't think I checked that off [00:21:30] one day last week.

MusicMusic: Mm.

Kimberle Lau: And so I was like, well, there's the red flag. That's why I was so totally exhausted for the weekend. I was like, okay. This week I'm making a very diligent effort to make sure that I stick to that habit. 'cause it can't just be on the habit tracker for no [00:21:45] reason. So that's one way. And then the other thing is like, I have such a supportive husband and family and friends, and I honestly do have the best husband who's supported me in this whole business endeavor.

So I lean on [00:22:00] him like, and I'm like having these moments, so that's good. And my kids. What's interesting about being a Iatric founder, I'm gonna just throw that raise out again. Is that my kids are a little bit older, so they're 14 and 11 and they've been along with me for the ride for the business. They come to [00:22:15] events with me, they work events.

They've earned my number one taste masters and so I'll like throw out these issues at them and I'll be like, guys, this is what's going on. What do you think? And so it's kind of fun to like kind of troubleshoot some of the issues with my kids. They keep [00:22:30] me grounded.

Aransas SAvas: I love that so much and I love this very intimate aspect of a family business.

It's, I mean, like it sounds so different than Founder, which feels like running a tech company [00:22:45] in my mind, but family business feels like I'm running my local salon, and yet that's really what all founders are doing in most cases, especially geriatric founders, especially geriatric mom. It's gotta be a family business.[00:23:00]

And I, I just can't imagine how difficult any of this would be without a community of support. And the most, one of the things I really love about your business is that you center both your mother and your [00:23:15] children and create this sort of multi-generational brand experience. Right? And like I. I have grown up so close to my mom and my grandma and my children.

We are, and always have been a package [00:23:30] deal. You know that if you invite me somewhere, you're gonna get at least three generations, possibly five. That's just how we roll. So seeing that in your story is really moving. What's it been like working with your mom [00:23:45] and creating this with her in the kitchen?

Yeah,

Kimberle Lau: so my mom was actually my baking teacher. She's the one who taught me to bake. She made our birthday cakes every year. She would make ice cream cakes for us. Carrot cake. So actually I launched a carrot cake

Aransas SAvas: as an homage to her. [00:24:00] We've had that one. That one's very good. Thank you. Of course. We made a very non-vegan, very high fat and dairy frosting for it.

It was delicious. Yeah,

Kimberle Lau: so she's been [00:24:15] super helpful. She's helped me bake in the kitchen and it's been nice because then we get time to like chat and catch up. She's helped me work at events. We actually have a chocolate. Coffee expo in two weeks. And so she's coming along with the ride. We're going to [00:24:30] Virginia, and so she'll be helping me work that event for, for two days.

And so it's just, it's kind of like a nice excuse to just spend time with her. I mean, again, granted they're long days and we're like hustling, but it, it's nice to have that time with her. [00:24:45]

Aransas SAvas: It's really special. Mm-hmm. And I imagine you're getting to know things about one another that you never would have had your relationship simply been.

You going off into an office to work? Yes. You s Right. So [00:25:00] one of the best things about the Uplifters podcast, if I just say so myself, one of the smartest things I did in this process is I set it up so that each woman who is on the show nominates another guest to [00:25:15] join us. So who would you like to nominate for the Uplifters podcast?

Kimberly?

Kimberle Lau: So her name is Gita Valinsky, and she is the founder of Nishi, which are these delicious chocolate spreads protein powders, [00:25:30] muffins for periods, pre menopause, perimenopause, and menopause symptoms. So hot flashes like cramps, all the unglamorous stuff of being a, a woman. Yeah, her products are so, [00:25:45] they're amazing.

They work, you know, you can like, she's got these customers who just are just a advanced because they really make an impact on their health.

Aransas SAvas: Mm. How wonderful. I can't wait to hear her story and how that came to be and to try our products. Is [00:26:00] that amazing? So as Uplifters, we love to uplift other uplifters.

How can we best lift up you and make me healthy?

Kimberle Lau: Follow us on social media. Shop our products or share our products with [00:26:15] anyone else that you, my health conscious may have. Food allergy. Just, we're just trying to make the world a more inclusive, better place. And you know, I think, give me feedback too.

Share any feedback or networks. Our goal is [00:26:30] really. School safe. So we're really focused on colleges and universities, corporate offices, holiday gift, corporate giving. Again, we're just trying to be a great option for, for people who wanna indulge, but more mindfully.

Aransas SAvas: I love [00:26:45] that so much. That's really smart.

I'm really excited to try more of your products and to share more of them. And I feel like they make great holiday gifts too, wouldn't they? Oh, yeah. Maybe, maybe new mom gifts given this story. So I'm just [00:27:00] thrilled to see where you go with this. It sounds like you are approaching this with so much love and wisdom, the kind of wisdom that we can only gain through lived experience.

Absolutely. [00:27:15] And that really is why I am so, uh, one of our former guests described herself, Denise Pines described herself as pro aging. And I am so into that because I feel like midlife is really this [00:27:30] time where we get to bring together all of our lived experience and make it mean more. I couldn't

Kimberle Lau: agree more.

I had a mentor when I turned 30. She said to me, your twenties, you feel like your golden years where you're [00:27:45] like going out partying. Your thirties were when you're kind of like discovering yourself, both career and family wise, and then the forties is where you really come into your true self. Mm. And I've taken that to heart and I couldn't agree with her more.

Now that I'm in my mid [00:28:00] forties, I'm like, she was absolutely right. Yeah,

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Kimberle Lau: and I had a student at Columbia, I was doing a a business school doing a presentation. He said, would you have started your company 10 years ago? And I said, absolutely not. One, I wouldn't [00:28:15] have had the medical journey, but two, I wouldn't have the social financial capital, the wisdom expertise to launch my business 10 years ago.

And so it would not be make me healthy 10 years ago as it is today. So I feel like, you know, and I [00:28:30] think you probably say this, the like, you're right where you need to be,

Aransas SAvas: right Where we need to

Kimberle Lau: be.

Aransas SAvas: That's exactly right. Thank you so much for being here. Kimberly. Best wishes to you in this big endeavor you're on.

Oh, thank you so much. It's been such an honor just

Kimberle Lau: to, to share our [00:28:45] story with, with you and your, and your, um, community.

Aransas SAvas: Thank you for listening to the Uplifters podcast. If you're getting a boost from these episodes. Please share them with the uplifters in your life and then [00:29:00] join us in conversation [email protected].

Head over to Spotify, apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. And like, follow and rate our show. It'll really help [00:29:15] us connect with more uplifters and it'll ensure you never miss one of these beautiful stories. Mmm.

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