Speaker: Guy Ogilvy

In this dialogue with Reza, Guy will take us through a journey with Dhu

al-Qarnayn, otherwise known as Alexander the Great, and dive in the

alchemical symbolism of the story of him trying to protect his people

from Gog & Magog using iron and copper. The story is portrayed in

the Koran in chapter 18 ‘The Cave’ or Al-Kahf verses 83 to 99, please

see translation below.

83 They will ask thee of Dhul-Qarneyn. Say: I shall recite unto you a

remembrance of him.

84 Lo! We made him strong in the land and gave unto every thing a road.

85 And he followed a road

86 Till, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout: We said: O Dhul-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness.

87 He said: As for him who doeth wrong, we shall punish him, and then he will be brought back

unto, his Lord, who will punish him with awful punishment!

88 But as for him who believeth and doeth right, good will be his reward, and We shall speak unto him a mild command.

89 Then he followed a road

90 Till, when he reached the rising place of the sun, he found it rising

on a people for whom We had appointed no helper therefrom.

91 So (it was). And We knew all concerning him.

92 Then he followed a road

93 Till, when he came between the two mountains, he found upon their hither side a folk that scarce could understand a saying.

94 They said: O Dhul-Qarneyn! Lo! Gog and Magog are spoiling the land. So may we pay thee tribute on condition that thou set a barrier between us and them?

95 He said: That wherein my Lord hath established me better

(than your tribute). Do but help me with strength (of men), I will set between you and them a bank.

96 Give me pieces of iron--till, when he had

levelled up (the gap) between the cliffs, he said: Blow!--till, when he

had made it a fire, he said: Bring me molten copper to pour thereon.

97 And (Gog and Magog) were not able to surmount, nor could they pierce (it).

98 He said: This is a mercy from my Lord; but when the promise of my Lord

cometh to pass, He will lay it low, for the promise of my Lord is true.

99 And on that day we shall let some of them surge against others, and the

Trumpet will be blown. Then We shall gather them together in one

gathering.

Koran Surat Al-Kahf (The Cave) 18: 83 to 99, translation by Marmaduke Pickthall

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